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ancient cargo
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if I can get a hold of the error message it throws at startup I'll share 😄

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and it freezes on reboot

eternal coyote
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I recently made my iMac dual boot Ubuntu/macOS

wary edge
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ok so i tried to dual boot ubuntu and windows i put ubuntu onto a bootable usb then when i was done with ubuntu i took my usb out restarted the pc and it opened ubuntu
so how do i get windows back

eternal coyote
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So

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I am unsure how it is w/ windows but

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I experienced this exact same issue with macOS

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I had to change the boot order so that macOS booted first

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Because my boot manager was on macOS

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So whenever I changed it and booted into it after changing it I was presented with the option to select the OS (I used reFIND).

wary edge
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so how do i change the boot order

eternal coyote
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I think you can do it within Ubuntu actually

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Let me dig up the command

wary edge
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kk thanks

eternal coyote
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It was

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efibootmgr

wary edge
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kk ill try it

eternal coyote
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I am unsure if I had to install it or not

sage solar
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Efibootmgr is just gonna work on efi systems, it's not very common anymore but it could still be a regular BIOS

eternal coyote
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It worked for my use case when I dual booted Ubuntu 18.04 and macOS Mojave

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I am not too keen on the technical details though

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I just know it worked

sage solar
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That's not a your case software thing, that's a question of the hardware he is running on

wary edge
eternal coyote
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So

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Make 0 come first

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Do you have a boot manager on windows?

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I just did this the other day so like

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i am just trying to help you based off what i did

wary edge
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naw i did not install one

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unless there was one built in

eternal coyote
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I mean you can go into your bios and select a drive to boot off of right?

sage solar
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Windows does have its default bootloader which will load into windows and windows only

eternal coyote
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Or partition

sage solar
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You'll want to run grub2 or shim

wary edge
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i cant access windows at all i turn on my pc and it goes straight into ubuntu

sage solar
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Preferably grub2, shim is a PITA to set up (even though more secure)

grave jolt
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you might have to hit a key to get the grub menu to come up. if grub was installed [and it usually is] then the installer likely also added an entry in grub for windows.
if grub is not installed then its possible they went with a pure efi boot [but unlikely] and you need to use your motherboards efi menu to boot windows

obtuse rapids
grave jolt
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if windows is installed with a legacy mbr and ubuntu is set up for efi, then its more complicated

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yeah youll need that menu if both are installed as efi bootloaders

obtuse rapids
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Ok nvm i was able to get windows to load i thought i overrided windows with ubuntu but thanks anyway

main olive
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what's the difference between

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sudo su - and sudo su

ancient cargo
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iirc without the "-" you just "impersonate" the user

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but don't get their env

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and stuff

main olive
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halp

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anyone familiar with kali linux

zinc bobcat
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Just ask your question

main olive
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Just I was not sure if I should ask it in this channel..

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Now I am.

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I have been trying for like 2 hours now to get my usb wifi adapter to work on a kali linux Virtual Box

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it blinks sometimes

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it even sometimes shows networks

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but it always fails to connect to them,

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I have also tried VM's network adapter

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and unpluging it and into different ports of my laptop..

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Anyone knows how to fix that?

ancient cargo
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🤷 never had to use one

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did you google for it? might be a virtual box thing

main olive
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ye

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might..

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Perhaps I should just create another OS on my drive

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oh I forgot I can't do that

sage solar
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.....you can do that?

grave jolt
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what are you trying to do? do you want to access promiscuous mode or do you just want to give the vm internet access?

main olive
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I meant I am not allowed to turn my own computer os

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I am currently trying to give my VM kali linux a interent access through my wifi adapter

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SO I can install something and put my adapter in monitor mode

grave jolt
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so you want promiscuous mode

main olive
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promiscuous mode? I have literally never heard of that before.

grave jolt
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accessing the internet doesnt need any special settings. you just connect to the internet on the host and the default config would give the vm internet access

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its 'monitor mode'

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but monitor mode/promiscuous mode requires direct access to the hardware

main olive
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Are you telling me I actually need no wifi adapter if I am on a laptop?

grave jolt
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so you would indeed need to use usb passthrough or something to give control of the device to the vm
but you also need the relevent drivers on the vm

main olive
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oh

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fck

grave jolt
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if your host computer already has internet access you DONT need a separate network device to just access the internet

main olive
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I have not figure out how sharing folders works for VirtualBox -_- thus I can not share drivers

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how?

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but I can not access anything on the internet

grave jolt
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the default config of virtual box guests are already configured correctly. you just need to tell the vm guest os to bring up the interface

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if you changed the vm config or virtualbox settings then you might have to revert them to get it again

main olive
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change them in what way? :d

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network settings?

grave jolt
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idk what you did but yes the network settings and the host bridge settings

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i run kali in a vm on virtualbox and i didnt have to do anything at all to get internet access working

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just told kali to bring up the network

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on the vm's network settings i have "enable network adapter" checked and attach to: NAT

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and yeah shared folders are a pain

main olive
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I know..I had VMs before..

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may have to create a new machine

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or reinstall

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:/

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oh

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why to NAT?

grave jolt
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this wont let you use monitor mode but itll let you figure out what drivers you need in the guest to make your wifi adaptor work when you tell virtualbox to give it to the guest

main olive
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oh

grave jolt
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because it makes it magically work without having to worry about how the hosts network connection is configured

main olive
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it does make sense that I need drivers for the wifi adapter 😂

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oh

grave jolt
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the tldr is that it gets a private network on your computer that has a router that can access the wifi network/router your host is connected to

sage solar
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Today in, nix does bsd things

OpenBSD has decided that sudo has too many flags, making the code too complex and thus replaced it with their own implementation called doas

grave jolt
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yeah the bsds like to do that

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but especially openbsd

sage solar
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OpenBSD reimplements Just about everything

main olive
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oof NAT is weird

sage solar
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What's weird about NAT

main olive
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I had promiscuous mode denied

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I mean I can not use NAT

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bridged adapter should do fine?

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@sage solar doas is not sudo and can coexist

sage solar
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But sudo isn't there on our systems by default ;(

main olive
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that's fine

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doas root does what sudo does (except slightly worse, but whatever)

sage solar
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No it's not I spent half an hour figuring that shit out

main olive
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Hell yeah boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis

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('n girls)

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It is working

sage solar
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Just because I had to get rid off the stupid filecop thingies

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Well I guess they're not stupid

main olive
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they're not stupid crying

sage solar
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I know I know

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The best thing is when your installer fails at some point and it drops down to runlevel 0 but you have to check the output of a networking command to find out why it failed

main olive
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Do you people recommend making a persistent kali linux? I have to install a lot of things to put my adapter in monitor mode,it would seem(by one video,at least.._)

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I have done it in the past

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no

tiny yarrow
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which os would be good for a newbie

grave jolt
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linux mint, ubuntu, fedora
a lot of instructions assume ubuntu

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linux mint is just ubuntu with extra paint on it

tiny yarrow
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thanks

main olive
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Can someone explain to me what Unix is is it just an operating system? And what is Unix based systems

little onyx
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@main olive this explains it pretty well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix

Unix (; trademarked as UNIX) is a family of multitasking, multiuser computer operating systems that derive from the original AT&T Unix, development starting in the 1970s at the Bell Labs research center by Ken Thompson, Dennis Ritchie, and others.Initially intended for use in...

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its an operating system. written entirely in C. It offered the Unix filesystem and the Unix shell

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many OSes are based of that. basically Unix is the base and you have things built on top of it like the GUI (if you need it)

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as well as other tools and what not.

main olive
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Yup,pretty cool

ancient cargo
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unix is awesome

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until it isn't, because it breaks

ancient cargo
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has anyone had this fun little thing where 'systemctl enable --now serviced" doesn't create a symlink

main olive
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how do I set up port forwarding from something running on localhost to an external ip

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i'm running this on docker and have trouble figuring it out.. the docker is running on a vm

main olive
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@main olive ssh tunnels

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you can tunnel from target to host or host to target, using the -R or -L flag

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Google it, it's very useful

blazing wolf
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i get this error
E: Package 'pgadmin4' has no installation candidate E: Unable to locate package pgadmin4-apache2 when i run sudo apt install pgadmin4 pgadmin4-apache2

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i do have postgresql installed on my machine

main olive
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idk, reboot?
I have a question about services in Linux:
What is a difference between %i and %I?

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How do I check how much my kali linux took space? It says no space in device?

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I gave it like 10GB

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and I do df

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but I do not know for what to look :d

tight zodiac
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You could try du -ahd1 | sort -hr
If it takes too long, you can remove the pipe and it will print as it finds stuff, but in the end you're still waiting.

main olive
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Seriously..I gave it 20GB of storage,still no enough space on the device

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am I supposed to dedicate some manually?

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what is it? virtual machine or a partition on a physical drive?

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VM

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you can resize virtual disk

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on a physical drive it is no probs,but on VM problem

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I DID

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from 10 GB to 20GB

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still says no space on the device

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wtf, give it 30

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20 GB is a minimum for Kali

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so give it 10 more

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WHAT

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I HAVE NO MORE SPACE LMFAO

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trust me

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wtf, download lite kali linux without all those programs

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a few megabytes file will not work even if it had 2000gb of space

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something is wrong

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A minimum of 20 GB disk space for the Kali Linux install. RAM for i386 and amd64 architectures, minimum: 1GB, recommended: 2GB or more.

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oh

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without all those programs..oky :d

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np, now help me

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how? 🤔

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what is %i and %I in systemd services

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good question 😂

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I am new sorry

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if you are creating a service with a parameter, who knows?

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which version did you take? Kali? Kali Large?

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bruh

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I think yeah 😂

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LOL You can be connected to internet with a laptop wifi and with a wifi adapter at the same time? 😂

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LMFAO

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Can that bring problems

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idk, I am not an expert, but you will use one connection at the same time I think

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why do you need an adapter? wifi hacking started?

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I did it on my built in wifi card in my laptop

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if you will be cracking, use you graphic card, instead of CPU

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ok i found it:

"%I"    Unescaped instance name    Same as "%i", but with escaping undone.```
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yeah

torn hollow
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k

formal schooner
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Is there a way to see CPU utilization for one specific process

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I cant tell from htop because other people are using the machine

main olive
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htop, top
What is the problem with other users, so you can't usse htop?

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@formal schooner

somber stirrup
formal schooner
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@main olive cant tell whose process is being run on which CPU

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I have my suspicions that my program isnt parallelizing correctly

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But i cant eyeball the CPU meters cause theyre all moving constantly

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@somber stirrup im hoping for some way to see which cpus its running on, to the extent that such a concept exists

somber stirrup
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oh it looks like you can pass the pid into htop

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htop -p <pid>
eternal coyote
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Also if you want to specify a name I think you could do

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htop -p $(pgrep name)

formal schooner
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Cool i got it

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Cant tell if the visual meters are accurate but it does say somewhere between 100 and 1000% of CPU so i guess its working

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I wonder if this code is multithreaded or vectorized internally and somehow causing the processor to slow down by some form of context switching

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Idk how cpu scheduling works in that case

main olive
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idk which code - your program's code?

formal schooner
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Yeah

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Its using pylbfgs, which is bindings for some C lbfgs library

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Trying to run multiple optimization routines in parallel

main olive
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and I am reading C theory, when there is so much better things to do

formal schooner
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Yeah im pretty sure this aint working right

stray sun
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Vectorization is neat

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Is your CPU throttling?

ancient cargo
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ok so ansible is heckin' cool

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like, wow. So cool.

main olive
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Why doesn't it make sense for me? How does recurtion work in this case, can someone explain it to me:

"
GNU -> Expand
GNU’s Not Unix -> Expand
(GNU’s Not Unix)’s Not Unix -> Expand
((GNU’s Not Unix’)s Not Unix)’s Not Unix -> Expand
(((((GNU’s Not Unix’)s Not Unix)’s Not Unix)’s Not Unix…

Until you Segfault.
"

source: https://www.quora.com/Why-was-GNU-Project-named-GNU
robust cave
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GNU stands for GNU's Not Unix, so that's how you get from the first line to the second line

uneven silo
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its infinite

robust cave
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the rest is simply replacing the GNU in GNU's Not Unix with GNU's Not Unix

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and so on and so forth

main olive
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i should be blind, thank you

formal schooner
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@stray sun im not sure. how do i diagnose that kind of thing

torpid ridge
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Hey everyone! I'm kait and I'm new to this server and to coding! I'm currently enrolled in a CS class where I am learning python on a Linux computer. We get labs every week and I am currently working on one of them. However I'm having a bit of trouble actually completing this lab. In this lab we are supposed to approximate the value of pi issuing the Monte Carlo Simulation using Turtle in Python. So our first step was to create functions that: outlined a dart not, drew axes, drew a circle and set up the dart board. I'm having a bit of trouble understanding why my turtle will not draw when I called and defined all of my functions? I checked the Stack Overflow and could not find anything that worked through this problem using functions so I'm not so sure what to do here. I will attach my code in the following message:

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'''wn = turtle.Screen()
darty = turtle.Turtle

def setUpDartboard(wn, darty):
setworldcoordinates(-1, -1, 1, 1)
drawSquare(darty, 2, -1, 1)
drawLine(darty, -1, 0, 1, 0)
drawLine(darty, 0, 1, 0, -1)
drawCircle(darty, 1)

def drawSquare(darty, width, top_left_x, top_left_y):
x = 360/4
darty.up()
darty.goto(top_left_x, top_left_y)
darty.down()
for i in range(4):
darty.fd(top_left_x, top_left_y)
darty.right(x)

def drawLine(darty, x_start, y_start, x_end, y_end):
darty.up()
darty.goto(x_start, y_start)
darty.down()
darty.goto(x_end,y_end)

def drawCircle(darty, radius):
darty.up()
darty.goto(-1,0)
darty.down()
darty.circle(radius)'''

warped nimbus
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Hi Kait and welcome. I think your question is more appropriate for a help channel than this unix channel

torpid ridge
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oop! okie i'm sorry about that! i'll delete and repost! thank you mark!!

warped nimbus
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No worries

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Just use any help channel that isn't already in use by someone else.

torpid ridge
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Alrighty! Thank you again!

hearty scarab
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Does anybody know if it's possible to scroll horizontally using libinput-gestures ? I can't find it

simple citrus
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Cant install an application from ubuntu software (ubuntu 16.04) and there is an error like ; Detailed errors from the package manager follow:

snapd returned status code 409: Conflict

green depot
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Guys I'm trying to dual booting windows 7 with Ubuntu 18 , I have created free space in windows but the allocated space does not listed in partition table, is there any solution?

main olive
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@green depot creating free space isn't enough, you actually need to shrink the windows partition to make room for the Linux partiton(s)

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you can accomplish this using gparted

green depot
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I shrink the c drive too

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But it doesn't listed as free space while I install

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Gparted,you mean should I shrink with Ubuntu?

obtuse rapids
main olive
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try to install that app using cmd

tired swift
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So i have a vm on my pc running ubuntu. Is there a way to connect to amazon aws server? I want to be able to use amazon aws server with gui

real arch
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Normally server OSes on AWS instances don't have GUIs. Instead you can connect by using SSH. You need to set up the appropriate security group rules to allow port 22 to your server.

If it is a Windows Server, you could open up RDP ports or something.

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@tired swift Would command line access to your server be sufficient?

tired swift
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@real arch thanks for the response. I have no idea how to use linux commands but the only thing i needed to do was add .py file. I didn't realize you can sftp to it so thats what i did and it worked.

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the issue now is installing a library on my windows pc

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i don't understand where to put

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python3 -m pip install -U discord.py[voice]
main olive
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either cmd or powershell, but you probably want python instead of python3 unless you installed python from the microsoft store

tired swift
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whats the difference?

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what version is python?

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2?

main olive
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python has plenty of versions, python --version will tell you which one you have

tired swift
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C:\Users\Nick>python3 -m pip install -U discord.py[voice]
'python3' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

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didnt work

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im confused

main olive
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try it with python instead of python3 as i suggested before

tired swift
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C:\Users\Nick>python -m pip install -U discord.py[voice]
'python' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
main olive
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do you have python installed on that machine?

tired swift
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Python 3.7.4 (tags/v3.7.4:e09359112e, Jul  8 2019, 20:34:20) [MSC v.1916 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>
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i have python

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did I not install it correctly or something?

main olive
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did you start the repl through the commandline?

tired swift
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:/

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no

main olive
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then python is not in your path

tired swift
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idk what repl is

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or how to fix this

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I've been using pycharm

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so all the libraries i added were there

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except this discord voice one

main olive
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not sure if pycharm offers a way to pip install stuff

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where is your python.exe located?

tired swift
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is their a fast way to find that

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I only see my shortcuts

main olive
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rightclick the shortcut and it should have an option "open file location" or something

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might have to do that twice in order to find the proper folder

tired swift
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C:\Users\Nick\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python37

main olive
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open that folder, hold shift and rightclick somewhere and select "open powershell window here"

tired swift
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not seeing it

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can i screen share with you?

main olive
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uh, what windows you using?

tired swift
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10

main olive
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not sure I am on the browser version of discord

tired swift
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o

heady seal
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You can use the terminal inside pycharm to use pip install whatever

real arch
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PyCharm also supports pipenv.

main olive
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yes

tired swift
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I could not get that working

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Discord.py[voice] is installed on my pc but cannot get it on pycharm

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Discord.py[voice] is installed on my pc but cannot get it on pycharm

hearty scarab
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Does anybody know what will happen if i compile a package that is already installed through pkg manager ?

sage solar
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If you compile it nothing

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If you install it, depends on the package manager and how it was packaged and, for stuff build with makefiles and such, wether you have decided a prefix

tired swift
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        ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax
``` what does this mean?
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the error is on async

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I coded this prgram in pycharm and i put it into linux and this happened

formal schooner
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@tired swift did you run it with python 2?

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async syntax only works for python 3.5+

tired swift
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Yea im trying to figure how to change which one it runs on

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I figured it out thanks

formal schooner
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@tired swift i personally recommend using pyenv to install and manage python versions

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ignore the ones in your package manager

tired swift
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Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/discord/ext/commands/core.py", line 79, in wrapped
    ret = await coro(*args, **kwargs)
  File "main.py", line 25, in join
    await ctx.author.voice.channel.connect()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/discord/abc.py", line 1029, in connect
    voice = VoiceClient(state=state, timeout=timeout, channel=self)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/discord/voice_client.py", line 114, in __init__
    self.encoder = opus.Encoder()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/discord/opus.py", line 224, in __init__
    raise OpusNotLoaded()
discord.opus.OpusNotLoaded

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/discord/ext/commands/bot.py", line 863, in invoke
    await ctx.command.invoke(ctx)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/discord/ext/commands/core.py", line 728, in invoke
    await injected(*ctx.args, **ctx.kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages/discord/ext/commands/core.py", line 88, in wrapped
    raise CommandInvokeError(exc) from exc
discord.ext.commands.errors.CommandInvokeError: Command raised an exception: OpusNotLoaded:
``` hmmm
uneven silo
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did you install discord.py or discord.py[voice]

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try adding the voice bit when you install if you didn't already

tired swift
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I have both installed @uneven silo

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@formal schooner any idea for why this error is happening

formal schooner
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no sorry

uneven silo
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uninstall the standard one

obsidian light
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@limber sinew hello there

limber sinew
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Shoot

obsidian light
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Let me preface everything following:
I am a windows user

I am working on installing arch linux. I have been running into many errors which I have overcome. But now upon every boot I am receiving "Missing Operating System". I have been trying to install grub which I suppose will fix that. I am lost, lol.

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I found this one tutorial I am following because it specifies what I think my fix my issue. I will let you know if it does, indeed.

little onyx
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yeah the bootloader is gone prob or it cant find what its supposed to boot off

limber sinew
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Probably uefi misconfiguration

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Also made tricky by the fact that every bios is different...

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Specially n laptops they tend to be... "special" in a lot of ways

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Often itll be broken, broken, broken... Until you flip just the right switches

obsidian light
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I am trying to join the smart people table at lunch

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And I hear arch was the way to do it

little onyx
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I mean just build arch once or a few times but later its really just a waste of time

limber sinew
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@Psuedo#2187 use the boot usb you can inspect efi state with efibootmgr IIRC

little onyx
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its great for learning tho

obsidian light
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I just have it on a server computer

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I am on the boot usb right now install grub

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I didn't grub-install to a dir. So let me try that

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Rebooting now

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Welcome to GRUB!

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Yay

little onyx
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well you got grub, can it find your installation?

obsidian light
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It found arch linux

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I booted

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and logged in

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Thanks

limber sinew
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Well that was easier than i expected

obsidian light
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Lol you did great

limber sinew
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Glhf arch linux

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Make sure to read the news on its homepage every so often

obsidian light
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Will do

obsidian light
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network is no work

limber sinew
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Use usb boot again, get network running, pacstrap into install, install correct drivers and any network management you want

obsidian light
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Going to give that a shot

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So I should pacstrap /mnt base linux again?

upbeat badger
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@obsidian light probably too late but did it also install the linux firmware?

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And a network manager

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Also don't forget stuff like graphic drivers

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And I'm pretty sure base doesn't comes with a text editor now so you may want to install nano or vim

uneven silo
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base should have vi

obsidian light
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the base I installed would not let me use vi or vim, I tried both. This is all super new to me. When I get home today I am more than likely going to re format the drives and start again.

formal schooner
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when ive installed arch it "just worked" so likely something did go wrong w/ pacstrap

tired swift
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How to I make python script run forever on linux?

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Amazon aws

main olive
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no, base does not have any editor

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this is a new thing

#

base is now also a metapackage, not a group

#

further, base doesn't have any fs utilities

worn apex
#

weird to have no editor

#

I'd expect it to at least require an editor, even if not any specific editor (assuming there's a way to do that with metapackages)

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er a virtual package, not metapackage

main olive
#

addendum, specifically

worn apex
#

that doesn't really make it not weird

#

they just kind of half-assed it, they shouldn't have removed vi from it without setting up an editor virtual package and setting up provides on all all the editor packages

pulsar thicket
#

Can some1 help me with a linux installation ? im struggling a few days

#

PCIe Bus error severity=Corrected ..... Fixed it with pci=nomsi (also tried pci=noaer, and nomodeset)

#

Cant get past the login screen now........ Before it was crashing after i enter the password, now it doesnt crash, but it asks me again (Doesnt get me in ubuntu after login)

pulsar thicket
#

disabled wifi from bios as a temporary and desperate solution 🙂

#

now it works

warped nimbus
#

My pi got absolutely fucked out of nowhere

#

I notice the pihole admin panel website was rendering strangely, so I figured I'd update pihole. Then I get an error with pihole -up

#
/usr/local/bin/pihole: line 62: /opt/pihole/update.sh: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error```
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Figured OK, I'll just update packages

#

Try to open neovim, get a segmentation fault

#

tried sudo apt-get update and got some error, managed to fix it

#

now sudo apt-get upgrade

#
dpkg: warning: files list file for package 'libstdc++6:armhf' missing; assuming package has no files currently installed
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bunch of those

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at the end

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dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:
 files list file for package 'xxd' is missing final newline
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
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and at the start I see this

#
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/apt-listchanges", line 38, in <module>
    import apt_listchanges, DebianFiles, ALCApt, ALCConfig, ALCSeenDb
ValueError: source code string cannot contain null bytes
debconf: Perl may be unconfigured (Can't locate IO/File.pm in @INC (you may need to install the IO::File module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/perl/5.28.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.28.1 /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/perl5/5.28 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/perl/5.28 /usr/share/perl/5.28 /usr/local/lib/site_perl /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/perl-base) at /usr/share/perl/5.28/FileHandle.pm line 9.
Compilation failed in require at (eval 1) line 3.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 1) line 3.
) -- aborting
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I have no fucking clue what happened, but it just imploded. It was working fine when I left it and I haven't touch it in a few weeks probably

#

I think I have to abandon ship and re-install. Everything is so broken

#

Like python is missing the stat module

#

ah I rebooted and now I can't even ssh into it

main olive
#

the sd is probably fucked @warped nimbus

#

try checking it with some software externally

warped nimbus
#

Any recommendations?

#

I've used that sd in my cellphone for years and had no issues

main olive
#

hm not really, haven't done this in a while

#

old sds just do that sometimes

#

it is known

warped nimbus
#

how convenient

main olive
#

I've had three SanDisks die on me

obsidian light
#

I am back

#

Going to start all over

main olive
#

@warped nimbus so what's the diagnosis

prime violet
#

Im getting No module named 'encodings' when running python3.4.10 as root on a CentOS7 box. No virtual environment, are there common causes for this? I need python3.4 running as root

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Could not find platform independant libraries <prefix>
Could not find platform dependant libraries <exec_prefix>
Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to <prefix>[:<exec_prefix]
Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding
ImportError: No module named 'encodings'

warped nimbus
#

@main olive ran a tool called f3 and it didn't find anything, but I don't think I used it correctly.

#

So, I still don't know

#

I'm gonna try again today I think or try badblocks

#

That's all I've really seen for tools that can help

obsidian light
#

I can't get my network going on ubuntu can someone help ?

gilded basalt
#

Can you share more details?

little onyx
#

he prob isnt wired up and needs to connect to wifi headless

obsidian light
#

I installed Ubuntu server on a Dell Poweredge R210. When it's booting, it shows the ip as 192.168.0.120, I can ping it. Once ubuntu launches I can still ping it, but it won't let me sudo apt update. On launch it says Failed to connect to https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-its. Check your internet connection or proxy settings

#

I am wired

little onyx
#

192.168.0.120 is a local ip

obsidian light
#

I am aware

little onyx
#

can you ping google?

obsidian light
#

Not from the server

little onyx
#

list your interfaces. does the eth show up?

obsidian light
#

eno1, eno2, lo

#

Those are my three options

little onyx
#

hmmm.

obsidian light
#

But I atleast know it's connecting to LAN because it the bios tells me the ip

gilded basalt
#

Can you ping your gateway from the server?

obsidian light
#

and I can ping it from my machine

#

No

#

Tried it

#

Network is unreachable

gilded basalt
#

What is output of running ip a

obsidian light
#

want me to type it all out?

gilded basalt
#

You may need to do sudo ip link set eno1 up

obsidian light
#

It lists the interfaces

#

Okay let me try that

gilded basalt
#

There should be an 'up' or 'down' on the far right for each

#

And it should show an ip for each if it has one

obsidian light
#

lo: down
eno1: up
eno2: down
I don't see any ips

#

Other than 127.0.0.1/8 but ya know

little onyx
#

I assume lo is 127.0.0.1 and eno1 is 192.168.0.120

#

is this a static ip you set?

obsidian light
#

someone gave me this machine so maybe? but there is no ip listed for eno1

#

lo is 127.0.0.1

little onyx
#

wait then where is that 192 ip coming from?

obsidian light
#

you know when you launch a machine and your bios displays some information? That's where

little onyx
#

it should show with eno1 since its "up"

obsidian light
#

Let me reboot and see if that changes anything

little onyx
#

did you install ubuntu directly to the machine or in a vm?

obsidian light
#

Are eno1 and eno2 just my ethernet ports? And directly

little onyx
#

yeah they should be your ethernet ports

obsidian light
#

I think eno1 was down until running the command sudo ip link set eno1 up

little onyx
#

well after reboot see what it says

obsidian light
#

same thing

#

let me try running the command for eno2

little onyx
#

ah ok

#

are there flashing lights at the eth port?

obsidian light
#

yes

little onyx
#

@gilded basalt ?

obsidian light
#

I can ping 192.168.0.120 from my main machine

#

but it still isnt working

little onyx
#

my experience is mostly with VMs 😅 so its usally just a NIC config

obsidian light
#

could it be an issue of a static ip? and if so, what should I do?

little onyx
#

well you said you didnt set it. did you install ubuntu to the system yourself?

obsidian light
#

I did intall ubuntu myself, about 30 minutes ago

little onyx
#

can you ping the router that the wire is connected to?

obsidian light
#

From where

little onyx
#

from the ubuntu system

obsidian light
#

No

little onyx
#

what does your /etc/network/interfaces look like?

#

or /etc/netplan/{file here} ?

#

on mine its usually 50-cloud-init.yaml

obsidian light
#
network:
    ethernets: {}
    version: 2
#

That's without the commented stuff

gilded basalt
#

Oh

#

Is it a static IP or DHCP?

#

If it's static you need to configure the gateway and DNS

obsidian light
#

I don't recall setting a static ip, but I'm thinking it may be

#

That would be configured in my router, right ?

little onyx
#

try putting

network:
    ethernets: 
        ens0: 
           dhcp4: true
    version: 2
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well yeah

#

lets see if dhcp works cause that would be easiest

obsidian light
#

ens0? or eno1

gilded basalt
#

Put that in /etc/netplan/99-config.yaml

little onyx
#

eno1

#

99?

gilded basalt
#

Then sudo netplan apply

little onyx
#

^

gilded basalt
#

That's I use from the Ubuntu docs

little onyx
#

mine is 50

obsidian light
#

tabs aren't allowed so I just need to space it over? lol

little onyx
#

yeah do spaces

#

i always do spaces

#

I miss having a dedicated server

obsidian light
#

that worked

#

thank you so much

#

I could ping google

little onyx
#

\o/

#

do I win something?

obsidian light
#

Sure

#

u want a logo or something

little onyx
#

nah

#

lol

#

im joking

obsidian light
#

now, all this talk about a static ip

#

should I make it static?

#

perks to doing that?

little onyx
#

not really

#

I always have mine as dhcp unless I explicitly need it to be static

obsidian light
#

Gotcha

#

About to set ssh up, suggest openssh ?

little onyx
#

well yeah

#

also never uninstall python

#

cause apparently netplan uses that

#

learned the hard way

obsidian light
#

I code so never lol

little onyx
#

well I was doing something and it wasnt working so I decided ill just remove all python and reinstall

#

nope

gilded basalt
#

You're on the python server btw

#

Removing python is taboo

#

Yes, OpenSSH is fine

#

It's what Ansible officially recommends and uses

little onyx
#

I was gonna reinstall it

obsidian light
#

I broke my openssh

#

I set a static ip, and forwarded port 22

#

now everytime I try to ssh from my desktop, I get permission denied

#

Is prompts for my password

#

Then says Permission denied, please try again

little onyx
#

are you loging in with the right password?

obsidian light
#

I've looked online a few places and tried the responses but to no avail

#

And yes. I created a test user with 67 as the pass to make sure lol

little onyx
#

might need a longer password lol

#

tho i never tired with a short password

obsidian light
#

Well, I have the acc I was using prior to the static ip change. And it isn't working either

#

It's one of my more common passes so I don't think I'm mistyping it

little onyx
#

well if it isnt working locally then obv something went wrong

#

try removing the account

obsidian light
#

Instead could I make a new user ?

little onyx
#

or if you can get to sudo maybe you can reset the password

#

or that

obsidian light
#

I am in the machine right now

#

As in, it's not headless

#

I would like it to be, but not yet lol

#

I can login in locally to the ubuntu machine. But not via ssh from my desktop

little onyx
#

wait so locally it works but not through ssh?

obsidian light
#

Correct

little onyx
#

huh

obsidian light
#

So

little onyx
#

i mean you can also do a login via a key instead

#

I usually do it that way

#

have you tried making the password longer?

obsidian light
#

I honestly don't think that's the problem it's more than 8 chars

little onyx
#

oh i thought you said it was "67"

obsidian light
#

For the test account it was

#

For my account it's much longer

#

One sec and Ill upload a debug pic

little onyx
#

and both are not working?

obsidian light
#

Correct

little onyx
#

show me ssh debug

obsidian light
#

ooh that's small let me copy

little onyx
#

its ok

#

i can read

little onyx
#

wait are you using windows ssh or cygwins ssh?

obsidian light
#

windows

little onyx
#

cause windows ssh doesnt work

obsidian light
#

It did

#

I was using it before setting static ip

#

And my friends server I can connect to

little onyx
#

weird

obsidian light
#

But I can download the other

little onyx
#

reading online that windows ssh doesnt work for some reason

#

wait maybe was another issue

#

dont think i know what the issue is tbh.

obsidian light
#

Should I try uninstalling openssh and reinstalling ?

#

On ubuntu machine

little onyx
#

you could. sometimes that fixes it

#

does /dev/tty exist?

obsidian light
#

No

little onyx
#

huh

#

ok before we mess with that

#

show me the contents of /etc/ssh/sshd_config

obsidian light
#

Is there a certain section? Because without ssh I can't type all that lol

little onyx
#

#PasswordAuthentication yes look for this

#

make sure its not commented

obsidian light
#

It is not commented out

little onyx
#

ok

#

do this: mknod -m 644 /dev/tty c 5 0

#

prob need sudo

obsidian light
#

it said file exists, but when I do: cat /dev/tty it just loads and loads

#

No result

little onyx
#

and ssh still not work?

obsidian light
#

let me go test

#

Permission denied, please try again

#

This has been a lot of work lmao

little onyx
#

huh

#

i mean you having errors that ive never seen before

#

what version of ubuntu btw?

obsidian light
#

18.04.3 LTS

little onyx
#

and what permissions are on /dev/tty

#

ah so the latest basically

obsidian light
#

how do I check that

little onyx
#

latest stable

#

lts

#

um

#

let me check lol.

#

prob ls -l /dev/tty

#

but imma check

#

yeah type that

obsidian light
#

crw-rw-rw- 1 root tty 5, 0 Oct 10 02:32 /dev/tty

#

That's the output of that command

little onyx
#

huh. it looks fine

#

@gilded basalt any idea?

#

you better not have caps lock on, on your windows pc

obsidian light
#

I do not lol

#

Let me check something

little onyx
#

good lol

gilded basalt
#

On the server, does ssh localhost work?

obsidian light
#

Seemed to have

gilded basalt
#

It's probably a issue with your client then

#

Try using PuTTY on Windows

obsidian light
#

Access denied

#

It has me all kinds of lost lol

gilded basalt
#

What changes did you make to sshd config, if any?

obsidian light
#

I did not change anything

#

In my netplan I see this, dhcp4: true

#

I set it to false to retain the static ip

little onyx
#

yeah we told you to put that there yesterday

obsidian light
#

Should I set it false again

gilded basalt
#

What is the ListenInterface set to

little onyx
#

leave it there lol

obsidian light
#

ok ok ok lol

little onyx
#

no. that turns off internet

gilded basalt
#

In sshd config ensure ListenInterface is not commented out and is set to 0.0.0.0

obsidian light
#

I do not see a ListenInterface

#

I see listenaddress

gilded basalt
#

Or

#

Yes

#

That's it

#

Sorry, on phone

obsidian light
#

let me uncomment it

#

its 0.0.0.0

gilded basalt
#

Ok

#

Now do sudo systemctl restart sshd

#

Or possibly ssh

obsidian light
#

in vim it's openeing as read only

#

not letting me write

#

let me try nano

gilded basalt
#

You need to run as root

obsidian light
#

ok got it

gilded basalt
#

sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config

obsidian light
#

okay did that

#

now try?

gilded basalt
#

Restart ssh

#

Then try

obsidian light
#

I did

gilded basalt
#

Kk

#

Try it

little onyx
#

waits for result

obsidian light
#

pc froze

#

trying now

#

Same thing 😦

gilded basalt
#

watch ls /backdoors/psuedo 😏

#

Hmm

obsidian light
#

what lol

gilded basalt
#

Just joking around

little onyx
#

/speakup

obsidian light
#

I thought so lol

gilded basalt
#

Not sure what could be causing it

#

At this point I recommend googling and trying a few things to see if anything sticks

obsidian light
#

I have done that lol

gilded basalt
#

Linux troubleshooting 101

obsidian light
#

Tried that the better half of today

little onyx
#

bascially what ive been doing lol

obsidian light
#

There's not much

gilded basalt
#

Vary your searches a bit

#

It may not even be ssh, though in this case it probably is since localhost works

obsidian light
#

Could it be a misconfiguration with the static ip stuff?

little onyx
#

its dhcp ip

#

we set that yesterday in netplan

obsidian light
#

So

#

I wanted to be able to connect with external ip

little onyx
#

its def not the ip stuff

obsidian light
#

I messed with ip stuff

little onyx
#

huh

#

well do you have a public ip?

obsidian light
#

I got the mac address and set it to a certain ip with my router

#

But dhcp is still in netplan

#

is that an issue

little onyx
#

no it shouldnt be

#

do ip a again

#

see if it has 2 ips

#

depending on the setup tho

obsidian light
#

one inet ip

little onyx
#

if you just reroute to local ip in your router then it will stay 1 ip

obsidian light
#

do i need to do that

little onyx
#

um yes?

obsidian light
#

Wait

little onyx
#

how would your router know where to point to?

obsidian light
#

I set the mac address in my router to 192.168.0.120

little onyx
#

its your router that needs to point to your local ip

obsidian light
#

And if I do ip a

little onyx
#

wait wait wait

#

mac address ?

gilded basalt
#

What is the IP of your Windows client?

obsidian light
#

local?

#

192.168.0.12

gilded basalt
#

Your router doesn't matter then

obsidian light
#

On this machine it doesn't local to local

#

but when I bring my laptop off

gilded basalt
#

Also networking likely isn't the issue here since you can connect, but authentication fails

obsidian light
#

ive also went to the .ssh folder on my windows machine

#

and removes the line for the ip

little onyx
#

Yeah it seems to be something funky with ssh itself

#

or it could just be windows

#

can you use another device to try and login?

obsidian light
#

I can give me a minute or two

gilded basalt
#

On the server, try ssh 192.168.0.120

obsidian light
#

it worked

little onyx
#

yep def your windows issue

#

wait. what did you try. what @gilded basalt said or what I said?

obsidian light
#

His

#

error's

little onyx
#

ah

obsidian light
#

I will try yours momentarily

little onyx
#

i mean if localhost work I would assume the local ip would work as well

gilded basalt
#

It rules out some things

little onyx
#

oh like accepting only localhost?

gilded basalt
#

Among other things

#

Listen address, firewalls, etc

#

Though since Auth is failing...

little onyx
#

lets see if its windows doing stuff

obsidian light
#

same thing

little onyx
#

😦

obsidian light
#

Permission Denied

#

It sucks that I can't use it lol

little onyx
#

can you ssh using root?

obsidian light
#

how would I do that ? ssh root@192.168.0.120?

little onyx
#

yeah

#

wait. do you have a "root" user?

obsidian light
#

I think so. I did the su - root earlier remember

#

But it said the same thing regardless

little onyx
#

yeah but sometimes root itself doesnt have a password

#

so its basically inaccessible except through su

gilded basalt
#

Isn't there a authorized users thingy sometimes?

little onyx
#

yeah there is

#

like so normal users can access sudo

gilded basalt
#

Is that though PAM or what

little onyx
#

or that normal users can do specific sudo commands

gilded basalt
#

For ssh specifically

little onyx
#

in in the sudoers file

#

idk.

#

i never dealt with PAM tbh

#

PAM actually broke on my ubuntu laptop. idk how. i get a PAM error with the ubuntu store

#

@gilded basalt you mean like a user can be locked for ssh?

gilded basalt
#

Yes

obsidian light
little onyx
#

i mean would be weird if that happened

obsidian light
#

any suggestions

little onyx
#

im kinda hit a dead end

obsidian light
#

das no good

little onyx
#

are these values set in ssh config?

#
PermitRootLogin yes
PasswordAuthentication yes
UseLogin yes
obsidian light
#

I can't find root login or uselogin

#

use login is commented out and no

little onyx
#

uncomment that and set it to yes

#

and add rootlogin and set it to yes

obsidian light
#

okay

#

now how do I reset ssh again

little onyx
#

restart you mean

#

?

obsidian light
#

Yes

#

Sorry

little onyx
#

sudo systemctl restart ssh

#

or sudo systemctl restart sshd

#

one of those should work

obsidian light
#

Permission denied with my acc and root

little onyx
#

😦

#

reinstall ?

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

obsidian light
#

wait

#

there's am ssh and a sshd config

#

which should I be editing

little onyx
#

sshd

obsidian light
#

ok good

little onyx
#

/etc/ssh/sshd_config

obsidian light
#

so I should just uninstall and reinstall? will that reset the config ?

little onyx
#

maybe

#

do a purge

#

so apt-get remove openssh --purge

obsidian light
#

"could not open lock file"

little onyx
#

use sudo

obsidian light
#

and "unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock"

#

lol ok

#

yeah

little onyx
#

when doing anything with apt use sudo

obsidian light
#

now apt install openssh?

little onyx
#

yeah

#

oh wait

obsidian light
#

says that as I run the command

little onyx
#

before that just rm /etc/ssh/sshd_config

#

just in case

#

my bad lol

#

well doesnt hurt to apt remove again

obsidian light
#

i done it all

#

and after installing

#

it says unable to locate package openssh

#

should it be openssh-server

#

lol

little onyx
#

sudo apt-get install openssh-server

obsidian light
#

let me do that with the remove first lol

little onyx
#

yeah

#

i dont setup linux that often. so I forget the small details

obsidian light
#

Installing it now

#

Okay it installed

#

let me try right off the bat

little onyx
#

sudo systemctl status ssh

#

too see if its running

obsidian light
#

it is

little onyx
#

k

#

then try again I guess

obsidian light
#

Still not working

little onyx
#

reinstall the whole system?

obsidian light
#

I have a decent amount of data on it 😛

#

um

#

Let me try some other things. Ill come back

little onyx
#

alright

#

i hope you figure it out

obsidian light
#

Thanks

main olive
#

please don't expose the root account in ssh

#

thanks

little onyx
#

😉

fringe crystal
#

Does anyone know how to use "rrdtool" (especially rrdfetch)?

#

Im having issues with the resolution. Trying to fetch a RRD file: with "rrdtool fetch <file.rrd> MAX -r 12h -s -1w -a" but i don't get 12 hours samples

#

It seems the max resolution i can get is 6h

#

but i dont know why

late meadow
#

Just a quick QoL question: I have a user (on Debian 10) with which I always use a venv. Is it possible to automatically activate the venv when logging in as this user? I thought about adding the command source [...]/activate to .bashrc but is there a more elegant way to do this?

oak shell
#

I don't think so. Why would bashrc be not elegant enough?

formal schooner
#

You would be shocked if you knew just how much of Debian was run by Bash scripts running other Bash scripts

#

That said, you might want to consider using pyenv

#

Which will free you from the constraints of using the same python version as APT

obsidian light
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Still no luck with the ssh fyi lol

little onyx
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aww

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did you try creating a new user and logging in through that?

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Yes

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I don't even know what to do other than reinstalling ubuntu

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but I don't really wanna do that

little onyx
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Might be your only choice if it's still not working

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Fuck it lets go

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one sec

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before I do this, is there any other os that I should consider?

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full terminal for a server?

little onyx
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I mean

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Ok whats your sever specs?

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ill just stick with ubuntu lmao

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I don't even know

little onyx
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Lol

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Cause I had a dedicated server before and it was pretty big

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4tb disk, 12 cores, 128gb ram

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So I obv went the route to use esxi and just run vms on it

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It is not 1/4 that

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it's a lil baby server

little onyx
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The. Yeah just Ubuntu on it

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8gb ram

little onyx
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Then*

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it's a slightly upgraded dell poweredge r210

little onyx
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Well install again

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And when you get to network, set it up for dhcp

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So you don't have to do later

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Then it can download stuff for you while it installs

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Like updates and such

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First things I do is install, update, upgrade and then install all the stuff I want to use

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should i remove the "static ip" from my router?

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Or no

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When configuring my interface, I chose DHCP and it just says timed out

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why is this so difficult lmao

little onyx
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I'm kinda having lunch now 😅

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oop sorry

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enjoy

little onyx
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I'll be available in like 30 min

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I may be lol

little onyx
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Yeah try removing the static ip

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oh my

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what if it was ufw allow openssh

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i doubt it

little onyx
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yeah if it was that you wouldnt be able to even hit the 22 port

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but you were able to get the prompt

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Gotcha

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So I am on the Network Configuration page of the initial setup and there's no done option when I manually enter information. And when I try with dhcp it just says timed out. ugh

little onyx
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is back

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yay

little onyx
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oh so you removed the static ip from your router?

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Correct

little onyx
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ok. and you are setting dhcp on the right eth?

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i think it was eno1 last time

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Well, I assume.

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It's on eno1

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dhcp on both result with timed out

little onyx
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huh

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@gilded basalt ideas?

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oh is your router setup to do dhcp?

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yeah that looks right

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weird dhcp fails.

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I have also restarted my router countless times

little onyx
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can you drop to shell and try to ping your router?

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from my windows machine?

little onyx
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no from the server

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what version of ubuntu again?

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18.04?

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I am in the setup, so I don't really know how to do that without clicking continue without network which I don't think I should

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And yes

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18.04

little onyx
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there is a way

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i just forgot how

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oh you know what

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you can just use tty thingy

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how do i use that thingy

little onyx
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ctrl+alt+F2

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and that drops you to a shell

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there we are

little onyx
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now ping your router

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network is unreachable

little onyx
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😦

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is your windows a static ip ?

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Shouldn't be lol

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I've never configured it to be

little onyx
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huh.

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I have multiple things on my router and none of those are static

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The server was the only thing I tried doing that with

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how are you installing btw?

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through usb?

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via usb

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yes

little onyx
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hmmm

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take out the eth and put it in the other port

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maybe its a bad port

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one sec

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great idea actually

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timed out

little onyx
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so weird

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you know when you were in like primary school and hurt your foot and was like "i just wanna be normal like all the other kids and be able to play" that's how I am with other OSs lmao

little onyx
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lol

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well a server is a big step

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usually people start out with ubuntu desktop

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it shouldn't be this hard though

little onyx
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yeah. i dont know why its so difficult

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im actually gonna go home tonight and try this out

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lol

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I have a spare laptop and will try to do it with the same config as you

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guarantee itll work

little onyx
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yeah I have that feeling too

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its either your router or your server thats the issue imo

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i don't think it's my router bc multiple things are and have been using it

little onyx
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tho I think I had this issue with ubuntu 18.04 before

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it very well could be the server

little onyx
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but in a vm

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ok I guess you can just skip it for now and do like we did that other day

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I accidentally launched into system services lol

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give me a moment

little onyx
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tyt

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just power off and on again

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Wait

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I am in my iDRAC6 Config

little onyx
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???

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"Domain Name from DHCP .... Off"

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Should that be on ?

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"DNS Servers from DHCP .... Off"

little onyx
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prob

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where is this? your router?

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The server

little onyx
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is this in the bios or?

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ye

little onyx
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I guess turn that on

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What is an Active LOM? do you know? lol

little onyx
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no idea

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Changed IPv4 Address Source from static to dhcp

little onyx
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let me google

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lol

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pretty sure that was the issue

little onyx
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Lan On Motherboard

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yeaaaaa turn that on

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It still keeps booting into this system services thing every boot

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Trying to figure how to turn that off

little onyx
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well turn on Active LOM

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I did

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I thinkg

little onyx
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oh ok

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Headed back to that screen to check

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It was on

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Think I fixed that issue too

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Let's see

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lol still timed out

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fuck this

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moving on