If this function is not called then the library uses the function ctypes.util.find_library and then loads that one if available.
just saw that, let's see if it works when opus was built from source
#unix
spring brook
simple phoenix
where are the databases saved created with the sqlite3 command in OS X
onyx apex
@simple phoenix well, if you didn't give it a filename during the command, it may have been in-memory only
simple phoenix
i guess it creates it where you actually run the command?
onyx apex
you provide the db file path in every command
simple phoenix
if i dont give it one its mem only ?
onyx apex
if you do not, then it is in-memory
fading flint
I'm trying to make some command-line interfaces (using Bash) that I can chain together. For example, I want to be able to use a Bash script like so: getdata.py | processdata.py > out. getdata gets the data from an API endpoint, and processdata processes it into a more Python-friendly form, splitting strings into lists and "yes"/"no" into bools.
I'm wondering what the best way to handle passing along Python objects is. I need it to print it in a way that is human-readable, but easy to change back into Python. Security is not a huge concern, as this is a personal project, and I trust the endpoint.
Should I just print them to stdout and then call exec to convert the passed objects back to Python? Or is there a better way to do this?
onyx apex
@fading flint any reason they should be separate processes rather than chainable tasks within one python script that you can run in a pipeline fashion? either way if getdata is just grabbing JSON basically you can just pipe that directly into the next thing i suppose. do you need a script just to fetch the api data to begin with? is the API request complicated enough that it cant just be done on the command line with httpie or something
fading flint
I mean, it's not terribly complicated. It's just paginated, so I want to get every page and get rid of anything that's not not in the "results" list. But once I have the data, I want to handle it in different ways, output it to a file/stdout or throw it to another script.
onyx apex
@fading flint cool, then sure, since it's already JSON data, may as well just send it to stdout if you want to be able to pipe it. better than pickling python-specific data and such
edgy minnow
@main olive here probably suits more
main olive
ok
well then
its still on configure
I remember last time when trying to make -j4 there was some error about no package c_array or something
or _c_array
something with underscore and c at the beginning
make clean
./configure --enable-optimizations --with-ensurepip=install
make -j4
sudo make altinstall
edgy minnow
ss if it pops up again but probably just a warning that can be ignored
edgy minnow
yea j4 is just number of jobs not sure if you can/should go any higher
main olive
well Ill ping you when its done
main olive
@edgy minnow ok so it has finally done make -j4 just started sudo make altinstall
main olive
from _ctypes import Union, Structure, Array
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named '_ctypes'
MakeFile:1140: recipe for 'altinstall' failed
make: *** [altinstall] Error 1
apt-get install libffi-dev & run that line again
main olive
@edgy minnow if I do pip it still says cannot import name main
edgy minnow
yea sudo for apt stuff
edgy minnow
rerun the make altinstall? get past that error?
edgy minnow
no _ctypes error this time?
(dont want to say it but might need to make clean again)
main olive
h
edgy minnow
does python3.7 work? python3.7 -m pip?
main olive
nop, I am going to just erase the sd card and reinstall everything from fresh
edgy minnow
one last thing
ls -la /usr/bin | grep python
main olive
from a fresh raspberry pi zero, what are all the steps in order, are there any prerequisites i need to install, anything, can you list them in order?
gilded basalt
@main olive You might want to try using pyenv to install python: http://www.knight-of-pi.org/pyenv-for-python-version-management-on-raspbian-stretch/
The easiest way to install pyenv is: curl -L https://github.com/pyenv/pyenv-installer/raw/master/bin/pyenv-installer | bash
main olive
@edgy minnow about this line of code
sudo apt-get install build-essential tk-dev libncurses5-dev libncursesw5-dev libreadline6-dev libdb5.3-dev libgdbm-dev libsqlite3-dev libssl-dev libbz2-dev libexpat1-dev liblzma-dev zlib1g-dev libffi-dev -y
should I change anything?
edgy minnow
i wouldn't, you can remove some of them after the compile/make is done
main olive
@edgy minnow lets say a new version comes out, how do I update python to the latest?
edgy minnow
until its gets added to the repos, you'd recompile from source. you'll be fine sticking on 3.7.x though
main olive
do I need to uninstall the previous python version?
vestal turret
apt will take care of the installing
it'll update just like all your other programs do
main olive
how do I use it?
I thought the code I use is this
wget https://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.7.0/Python-3.7.0.tar.xz
tar xf Python-3.7.0.tar.xz
cd Python-3.7.0
./configure
make -j 4
sudo make altinstall
since this is what I did, how would I uninstall it?
vestal turret
you would have to delete the files that make altinstall created
main olive
@edgy minnow so I finished installing python 3.7 now
if I do python 3.7 -V it shows the correct one, if I do pip3.7 it shows pip for 3.7, but if I try to do python3.7 -m pip3.7 install -U https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py/archive/master.zip#egg=discord.py[voice]
it raises an error saying no module named pip3
main olive
ok what, it worked just a second ago, now its saying cannot import name main again
wait no
now its not again
this is stupid
hm now its working again
well anyways if I do pip3.7 install -U https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py/archive/master.zip#egg=discord.py[voice] will that work
and do I do sudo?
edgy minnow
(which line? do you add anything after it worked - a .py file?)
that line should & no dont sudo
main olive
well what if it says no permission
edgy minnow
the [voice] may need some packages... what directory are you in? - you shouldnt need sudo & wouldnt blindly use it
main olive
should I be in the resource folder or the root?
main olive
@edgy minnow
edgy minnow
resource, anywhere in home (~) would do
main olive
Hey @edgy minnow ir says permission denied
edgy minnow
pip3.7 install --user -U httpps:...
main olive
did you notice you didn't have a git+
Also why are you installing it from source, just download it by pypi
zinc bobcat
You can't use async (master branch) with 3.7 btw
manic nimbus
Looking for the android tools, like termux or .... there always seems to be lurkers here looking to find out best how to program on android. I only see things like windows and unix. It would be nice to see a android channel. Especially in setting up environments to use on android. I personally use pydroid and python but looking for something more ide like. Still very newbie-ish but working my way through ATBS book and solo learn. .... suggestions for us primary android users wanting computing tools? Please don't suggest laptop as there are many reasons why there is a group of us who can't/ don't have laptops, yet still eager to learn programing. Thanks! Move this topic if need be as I want sure where to put it.
edgy minnow
may need more of the error there, probably just the stuff for [voice] needed, if you dont need voice/audio stuff just remove it
sudo apt-get install libnacl-dev may be the missing lib for voice
main olive
odd looking error @edgy minnow so I run my bot and it says inside of discord/compat.py that asyncio.async is invalid syntax
I did python3.7 filename.py
edgy minnow
sounds like async error, that installed instead of rewrite?
pip3.7 show discord.py
@main olive
main olive
version is 0.16.0
edgy minnow
yea thats async.
edgy minnow
pip3.7 install -U git+https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py@rewrite#egg=discord.py
@rewrite was missing in your one above
main olive
ah, so can I uninstall the previous one?
pip3.7 install --user -U git+https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py@rewrite#egg=discord.py?
edgy minnow
it should install over, yea
main olive
alright
edgy minnow
only seems that way.... need [voice] stuff?
vagrant fern
Can someone tell me what LVM "thin pools" are? I can't really find anything on it, but I may not be searching for the proper thing.
grave jolt
you mean thin provisioned lvm volumes? https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/6/html/logical_volume_manager_administration/thinprovisioned_volumes
looks like lvm supports allocating blocks on write/use, rather than on volume creation. this lets you make say two 150GB volumes on a 200 GB partition
and which ever one claims the space first gets it
sage solar
why not just ask your question here so everybody somehow related to linux can help you
cold pagoda
I'd be able to answer questions here, but I can't join VC, as I'm at work
main olive
I need some help
how do I get dirname followed by filenames.. for all the files in a given dir
what I have so far:
echo $(basename sourcedir path) will list the last dir name..
and
find dirpath -type -f .. lists everything in the directory but inclusive of source paths specified
how do I put these together.. or is there another way?
main olive
nevermind I got it..
lots of trial and error
for file in find dirpath -type f; do path="$(basename $(dirname $file))"; onlyfile="$(basename $file)"; fin="$path $onlyfile"; echo $fin; done
so this made like a list
if I wanted to pass the list to a separate script, I need to output it to a file.. with > then filename
but is there an another way to just pass the list generated from the first command as a argument to the script?
grave jolt
if you make your script read from stdin instead of reading command line args you can just use the pipe |
stdin/stdout are special files that you can easily connect together to make programs dump data between each other
sterile bloom
@main olive maybe it's easier to make the script walk the directory tree on it's own
(what if you have files with spaces in their names?)
main olive
the thing is the script im using isn't mine.. it was made to use a file as an argument.. hmmm
main olive
how do I split a file based on the number of lines
when there are odd number of lines
never mind
got it
split -l numberoflinestosplitby filename fileyouwantsegmentstobenamedas
main olive
how do you run a command.. such that it follows right right the previous command has finished running
the two commands are not related to each other..
main olive
is anyone alive
how do I format my echo output, so if you copy to clipboard, you can paste in separate columns of a Sheet
main olive
nevermind..apparently that's not a thing
normal drift
@tron use a semicolon to run two unrelated commands
grave jolt
@main olive you can tab delimit your data and usually paste it in to spreadsheets pretty nicely
queen lance
anyone know how i can install python onto Debian without sudo access?
oak shell
Debian should come with a version of Python 2 and 3 preinstalled, I think
or do you need another, specific version?
queen lance
I don't think I have pip
Comes with python 3.5.3
Would like to see if I could get up to 3.6 as well so I can use fstrings
oak shell
without sudo, pyenv comes to my mind which compiles any Python version you want on your machine, locally for your user only
Check out the readme there to see if this is for you
You can then easily install it with https://github.com/pyenv/pyenv-installer (tl;dr: curl https://pyenv.run | bash - note: this downloads a shell script and executes it, you should generally not blindly run this but verify first that what you get is valid and not malicious)
oak shell
PATH is an environment variable that contains a list of directories where the system shall search for executables when you type a command.
queen lance
thanks
main olive
thank you @ riffautae.. didn't want to disturb you .. so didn't tag
simple phoenix
@oak shell so can I set that to as example the neofetch folder?
oak shell
You should never replace the value of PATH, only append your additional directories to it, separated with a colon (:)
like PATH="$PATH:/some/absolute/path"
otherwise nothing will work any more if you replace it
simple phoenix
So I just add neofetch to the path?
oak shell
the folder where it is in
so if the executable is /home/raizo/something/bin/neofetch you would append this line to your user's ~/.profile:
PATH="$PATH:$HOME/something/bin"
then source ~/.profile or close and reopen your terminal
simple phoenix
Uh what do I do to add it ?
in /etc/ there is a sudoers file but that seems pretty complicated
oak shell
no experience with android, really
simple phoenix
Thats.. iOS
oak shell
well, neither
I would assume you have to add your own user to the sudo group
on e.g. Ubuntu that would be as simple as running sudo adduser mobile sudo from any account that is allowed to use sudo (or root)
lethal thistle
Nice!
quartz bough
Gracias!!!
mental sparrow
Can I get help I clicked hide menu. How do I fix that... I am on mint 18.
Know what.. that was easy to fix..
brittle scroll
Can someone please tell me whats the use of the ex text editor or rather ex version of the vim editor?
arctic olive
don't understood your question @brittle scroll
what answer you expect to hear?
please explain/expand question
cold pagoda
You mean the mode you enter when entering Q?
Here's a SO answer detailing why it's useful in some use cases: https://vi.stackexchange.com/a/2692
brittle scroll
@arctic olive i need to write an article on ex command but i am confused what to write. I read before vim ex, ed was used. But my question is what is the use of it now?
@cold pagoda thanks.. im checking it.
@cold pagoda i dont even what "entering Q means" except :q is used to exit vim -_-"
arctic olive
there is wiki page about ex editor, which explain it
honestly, i'm not a fun of vim, emacs or cli based editors. I walked a long way from working in emacs cli, then wingIde, and then using vscode just as simple text editor
brittle scroll
I mostly use editors from jetbrains.. I have no experience whatsoever on these xD But somehow i have to write an article on ex : [
@arctic olive can you please share the link of that wiki page.
arctic olive
cold pagoda
Have you tried using python3 in the terminal? It may have Python 3.6 or similar installed already
main olive
Also would it be considered safe to remove python 2.7.5 on XFCE?
i mean it aint 'Kali'
or any other Pentesting distro
I am about to do that
cold pagoda
I wouldn't do that, if I were you. Just leave it and use another version
cold pagoda
You can set up an alias for your terminal sessions in your profile file
main olive
how'd I launch one using python3
say I got a .py file that I wanna run
python36 Program.py?
cold pagoda
Well, I use python3 (which is Python3.6 on my system), python3.7 for Python 3.7, and python for Python 2.7.x
worn apex
if you put #!python3.6 or #!python3 at the top of the file, the py.exe launcher will detect that on windows
and run the appropriate version if installed
main olive
how can I check if I got python 3 or any other version tbh
I did python -V in terminal
queen lance
Anyone know the command to check which binary is executed for a command
worn apex
what OS?
oh, this is a unix channel, i'm a dumbass
type will also return if it's a shell function or builtin, which or type -P (bash-specific) will search exclusively for binaries
worn apex
zsh has a whence command with various options
note that which will not tell you if you have an alias, shell function, or built in, it only looks for binaries
queen lance
Oh wow zsh looks very complicated
runic flame
Is it possible to enable a built in WiFi card or a USB WiFi dongle via Ubuntu Server command line? If so, how? Everything I’ve tried hasn’t worked
undone pulsar
You'll need to find the interface name with ip link
Then ip link set <interface> up
runic flame
Ty
pine garden
Anyone here who can help me with a shell script ?
edgy minnow
!t ask
shy yokeBOT
pine garden
I am using homebridge to execute a file
It prints out what it is supposed to and creates the file but if I am outside of the directory the on/off.sh is in it just prints out "ON/OFF" but doesnt create a file
echo "ON"
echo "This is flag Switch ON" > ~/script.flag
echo "OFF"
rm ~/script.flag
we are gunna need a bit more code to understand this, or maybe a description of which homebridge you are using
grave jolt
sudo is about executing files, not seeing them
so really you should just make sure the user has proper read / execute access on the file system
pine garden
I did
grave jolt
what are the permissions of your on.sh files and of the domizimmer folder
including the owner/group
and then what user is running the script when it fails
pine garden
the user running the script is homebridge
it is executable by everyone
i did it with chmod +x
grave jolt
what are the perms of the folder its in?
edgy minnow
where are you expecting to see the flag?
grave jolt
ah yeah also that will make the flag in your home directory
~/script.flag ~ means home directory
pine garden
I tried it inside the directory and it worked just fine
grave jolt
were you running as the homebridge user?
pine garden
my problem is if i am using it like sudo /var/domizimmer/on.sh
it doesnt create the fil e
grave jolt
sudo runs it as root, so with your code that puts it in /root/script.flag
if you run it as your user name, it puts it in /home/yourusername/script.flag
doesnt matter what your current directory is, you used ~ which means home directory
edgy minnow
you can double check with env | grep HOME but yea user/root will have a different home location
grave jolt
yeah that makes that make more sense
so
thet issue is that . is current directory
in the first screenshot the current directory is /var/homebridge/domizimmer
in the second one its /home/homebridge
pine garden
ohh
grave jolt
so its putting the file in your home dir when you run it hte second way
you should use the full absolute path
pine garden
alright i will try that
so now it works creating the file
and setting the "switch" on and off after executing the file after typing it into the terminal
but it doesnt create anything if i use homekit itself
{
"accessory": "Script2",
"name": "Domi Zimmer",
"on": "sudo /var/domizimmer/on.sh",
"off": "sudo /var/domizimmer/off.sh",
"fileState": "/var/domizimmer/script.flag",
"on_value": "true"
}
Do you have any Idea what is going wrong there too ?
edgy minnow
remove the sudo's?
pine garden
I tried but it doesnt fix it
edgy minnow
"accessories": [ { "accessory": "Script2", "name": "RPC3 Socket 1", "on": "/var/homebridge/rpc3control/on.sh 1", "off": "/var/homebridge/rpc3control/off.sh 1", "state": "/var/homebridge/rpc3control/state.sh 1", "fileState": "/var/homebridge/rpc3control/script1.flag", "on_value" : "true" } ]```
just the docs example, on_value not needed... not sure what those 1s are doing (probs just args), scripts are all executable...also you never did post the permissions of the folder /var/domizimmer/
pine garden
how do i do that
I must have overread that
grave jolt
ls -l /var/ | grep domizimmer
this should output JUST the permissions for that one folder
pine garden
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 6 04:27 domizimmer
grave jolt
ok so thats prob the issue
well it has +r and +x so hm
you can log in as the homewhatever user if you want using su -u otherusername
and then try running scripts and browsing the file system to make sure you can see all the files as that user
pine garden
i can
i am able to everything
but if I want to execute that script i still need sudo infront of it
should I set the permissions so that everyone is able to execute everything
grave jolt
thats a good way to really mess up your system imo.
i would remove sudo from those calls
oh i know the issue
its sudo
by default i bet its making files owned by root and readable ONLY by root
you need to run those scripts as your services user
and change domizimmer to be owned by that same user
ideally you would move those scripts out of the folder, but this is still more secure then giving everyone access to everything
but basically if you create a file as root, which you are since you are using sudo on a script that makes a file
its prob defaulting to not let anyone else read the file
grave jolt
:>
pine garden
You don't know how long I tried to fix that issue
I got everything else working
The script to use the GPIOs e v e r y t h i n g
Thank you 😃
grave jolt
your welcome
vestal turret
@vague glacier how did you try to update it
if you are on 14.04lts it won't go higher than 3.4
vague glacier
I think it installed
@vestal turret ill be back in a few hours because college but if u can help then itll be appreciated
tawny sky
@vague glacier because sqlite is part of the Python standard library?
tawny sky
You need to pay attention to things like this before you install something malicious
worn apex
For the record, as far as I can tell the actual sqlite3 module is maintained outside of python and available on pypi... as pysqlite3.
vague glacier
I use it for db.browser
worn apex
AIUI it's mainly available for if you need to build it against a different version of sqlite3
the point is, python ships with the sqlite3 module as part of the standard library.
so you shouldn't need to pip anything except under special circumstances
vague glacier
Yeah I used pip for downloading discord module but thats pretty much all i need
Thank you both of you ❤
😦
thought downloading wouldve fixed this
tawny sky
run it using python, not bash
worn apex
you need #!/usr/bin/python3 or whatever at the top
tawny sky
Don't use that shebang
Use #! /usr/bin/env python3
That should ensure the correct Python
vague glacier
Ok, ill try that
worn apex
the most robust way, technically, is to make a separate shell script that just runs python3 file.py "$@"
vague glacier
!
from here would i run through that?
as thats ovo the shell
And I would like it to be one file currently, can update later 😃
vague glacier
@tawny sky i used the method you said but now im stuck at this part, dont know how to actually run it from shell
tawny sky
you don't run it from that
that's a repl
it's python filename.py
you can exit() that repl
vague glacier
It says it doesnt exsist?
tawny sky
you're gonna have to be more specific than that
tawny sky
I think you've had just about enough messing around for now :P
You need to go take a python basics course or tutorial
and perhaps a bash one as well
vague glacier
Its not my python knowledge per say,
I just havent touched outside of it
Aka linux or virmach or os etc
tawny sky
I mean, you're clearly missing a few parts of both
the repl is a pretty basic piece of python knowledge
additionally, I have no idea why you're even using bash for windows for this
windows is just fine for Python development
tawny sky
I've never heard of virmach but it looks like your usual cheap server host
plus windows support
anyway
you don't run python differently on linux
it's the same command
because it's still called python
the only thing you need to worry about is making it run all the time
at that point I usually suggest writing a little systemd unit, but of course you'll need to learn how to do that
many people will tell you to use screen
do not do that
many other people will tell you to use nohup
don't do that either
vague glacier
yeah ive been told to do that lmao
tawny sky
every linux OS provides some way of managing applications that should be running in the background all the time
today's most common init system, as they're known, is systemd
robust cave
I think what @tawny sky meant was to not run the script manually in the terminal; detach it and leave it running (which also includes tmux) , but to run it as an explicit background process through systemd
reef rampart
is anybody here who can help me with a simple tkinter problem?
oak shell
just ask, but it might fit better into e.g. #user-interfaces or a regular help channel, unless it's specific to Unix/Linux platforms
quaint mirage
weird query, not sure if devops or unix really
the other day i had an issue with an EC2 where i'd mounted an extra bit of storage
60gb worth
but it was behaving like it was full despite there being 25gb free
3 million sessions being stored in text probably didn't help but it was still a weird thing
all diagnostics pointed to it being a 60gb drive with 25gb free
but it just would not write
answers on a postcard <3
oak shell
@quaint mirage if you had tons of small files on there, might you have exhausted the file system's available number of inodes? Check df -ih for inode stats.
My 50gb ext4 partition has roughly 3M inodes available, so if each of those "sessions" is a single textfile, that could very well be full
to change the number of available inodes, you'd have to reformat the partition and specify that as argument. https://unix.stackexchange.com/q/26598/103151
quaint mirage
we were migrating the site away from that server and out of our hands specifically because it was configured and developed on by an absolute monster. he was going into magento's core code and fucking with shit, set it to store sessions as files rather than in a database, etc, etc
so everytime a problem happened it was either like... a legit magento problem or a cluster fuck because he'd messed with core code
oak shell
yikes
arctic olive
🙀
so I had a dream tonight...
that I went to my new job as developer...
and they asked me during all day to do tech support and maintenance
because there were nothing to code
sage solar
a) how does that relate to unix and friends
b) that is usually not going to happen
c) even if it does its not that bad
main olive
@sage solar why not call yourself uNix?
main olive
can someone help me out with Kerberos auth on linux.
i am doing a request.get(url), and it returns a 401 with "Negotiate"
ornate gyro
what do you want to know?
i've used it a bit in the past, but i'm not an expert
@autumn dune
as in; it does not apply the layout?
and if you run the command normally (in the terminal) it works?
then the error might be with your command
i don't quite understand how this:
setxkbmap -option 'grp:alt_shift_toggle' -layout us,de,rs -variant ,qwerty,latinyz
closes the terminal, are you sure it is supposed to look like this?
especially the leading comma in the variants
in your i3-config you need the exec
have you bound that to a key or do you load it at startup?
👌
arctic olive
i3 wm was nice pleasure for me for years on desktop pc
but since I've moved to laptop notebook i miss quick access in tray to bluetooth, wi-fi networks, etc, & stuff
so i'm looking forward to setup window tiling for full blown DE (gnome, kde, unity)
and enjoy benefits of both worlds
gritty stirrup
@arctic olive there's Manjaro KDE Linux
It's a easy to install, and is roughly based on arch
It's what I'm going to use on my notebook
arctic olive
i've tried Kubuntu iso, but it wasn't even able to boot up : D
fortunately regular ubuntu iso worked fine
arctic olive
do you like to pull all those dependencies with rolling release updates?
why not LTS?
@gritty stirrup
gritty stirrup
I think being able to control dependencies is important
arctic olive
yes. but it's impossible to control them at Arch. you just want to install deadbeef, but you are required to pacman -Syu and might end up updating kernel & glibc
not so comfy way of getting deadbeef installed. Right?
gritty stirrup
@arctic olive I said Manjaro is based off of arch, i don't have a whole lot of experience with the dependencies management. If I find anything I'll post it back here?
arctic olive
sure
vestal turret
you aren't required to -Syu, the u makes it upgrade everything, you can omit it
arctic olive
the user might not required to -u but afaik official Arch guideline highly suggest it before the installation of package. because some times package binary might have dynamic linked dependency to another package which was not stated/mentioned/declared at PKGBUILD. and -Syu helps solve similar cases.
anyway, if user still doesn't use -u, packman -Sy with installation/upgrade of particular package still might drag explicit dependencies that may upgrade your OS and affect other packages.
cuz you may let's say install package_A, with pacman -Sy , (without -u), which may upgrade your glibc. but you may also have in system package_B from AUR what has dependency on older version of glibc.
and package_B has not been upgraded - because you did not invoked -Syu
main olive
yea
I used: yum provides */libssl.so
give me a lot of things
but when i used install
tawny sky
yeah, openssl-devel is the correct package according to the internet
main olive
he say that i already have installed
tawny sky
so the other issue is that your compiler is not finding that library
It could be that the python you're compiling is too old and not intended for use against the openssl fedora provides
main olive
The problem is that here in work, i have to use a specific version of python to run a project
and the libraries that project use it's used by python 3.5.0
main olive
Well, the version it's not the specific problem.
I just need a version that match with the librarys]
main olive
i try with 3.7 but don't find the last five librarys
I don't try with 3.5.6 because he came without pip
main olive
There's a way to install pip from a virtualenv how came without pip?
tawny sky
that won't help you
main olive
you want 3.5.6?: wait
main olive
If python 3.5.6 find the librarys, that's works fine
main olive
I don't tried yet
tawny sky
well what have you tried
tawny sky
No, that's not what I asked you
main olive
and fail
main olive
If you want, i can send you the requirements
main olive
i tried with 3.5.0
tawny sky
I mean regardless I have to go to the bathroom
but don't do anything too rash yet
give me time to check this out
I can confirm that python 3.5.6 with pyenv on Arch Linux installs correctly and that pip works
now brb
main olive
Well... i think fedora doesn't like me
Installing Python-3.5.0... WARNING: The Python readline extension was not compiled. Missing the GNU readline lib? ERROR: The Python ssl extension was not compiled. Missing the OpenSSL lib?
Ignoring ensurepip failure: pip 7.1.2 requires SSL/TLS
tawny sky
I'm beginning to think the same
Do yourself a favour though, don't move to arch
Use antergos or manjaro
They're based on arch but much easier to install
main olive
The problem is not the difficulty of the installing things in the distro. But here im work i have to give the solutions as fastest as i can. So this bureaucracy to make some things are really bad.
tawny sky
It sucks, I'm with you
But you will have to spend a couple hours setting arch up if you install it directly
Which I think you don't want
main olive
auehauehas
tawny sky
It may still be possible to salvage this on Fedora
But it's outside my area of expertise
main olive
Maybe if i install python 3.5 with make install work?
tawny sky
I don't think it will since it seems to think you don't have ssl
You are running the configure script, right?
main olive
yea
main olive
No, everyone here uses windows.
main olive
I am an army of a person. Doing it all alone.
tawny sky
Right, okay
Well personally I would install arch or one of the other two distros I mentioned
Install pyenv and get it that way
main olive
I will try ubuntu.
tawny sky
But I don't really know fedora, so
main olive
auehauehauehs
I tried because it's already installed here in the PC. So i think i could try to learn, but this is too much work for some little things.
tawny sky
Yeah, I think you'd be better off with arch
Ubuntu is quite unfriendly for a developer to work with too
main olive
why?
tawny sky
Old packages mostly
main olive
Everyone talk so good about him
tawny sky
And apt likes to get stuck in dependency hell
I like arch personally because once it's set up, it's very easy to maintain
There's no worrying about being out of date or needing to think about old versions of packages being incompatible, it just works
tawny sky
Yeah, so use manjaro or antergos
Which will set things up for you
They're still arch, but they have an installer
main olive
Maybe windows it's a better options.
tawny sky
The installer will partition for you and set up the graphical environment for you
After that you just need to install pyenv and your IDE
main olive
You have sure?
tawny sky
I use arch daily, it's what I use on all my machines
If you get stuck, you can ask me or one of the many arch users on this server
main olive
Well, install arch is a radical option. I will keeping searching for a solution.
tawny sky
Okay
main olive
@tawny sky: Works now
tawny sky
aha, good call
main olive
I just had a deja vu now.
tawny sky
Ah? :P
tawny sky
What do you mean by the past?
tawny sky
Ah, pyenv isn't a replacement for venv
tawny sky
Run pyenv init
tawny sky
That'll help you set up your shell
Anywhere
Then you can do pyenv shell <version>
And it'll switch to that version in your shell
main olive
oh
that's what i want
i guess
when i use pyenv shell <version> we will set me to the enviroment for my package?
tawny sky
It will set the environment for your shell
so python and pip will be the correct versions
tawny sky
No problem
main olive
It's a proble to move my pyversion for another folder?
there's a problem with finding the path?
i have a django prpject in my /www/
so i like to put the pyvenv in this directory
tawny sky
You can set up virtualenvs like you normally do if you want them
tawny sky
I mean, they're not the same thing :P
pyenv exists so that you can install multiple versions of python to your environment without root
it will not isolate the packages between projects, so you still need virtualenvs for that
main olive
ohhh
When i create a pyvenv version. I still need to use virtualenv for set my enviroment?
tawny sky
You should still make a virtualenv, yeah
Just do it like you always do
After you set the version you want with pyenv
main olive
but this version of pyenv it's in my global now
`
[pedro@localhost ~]$ python
Python 3.5.0 (default, Feb 13 2019, 10:07:50)
[GCC 8.2.1 20181215 (Red Hat 8.2.1-6)] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
`
tawny sky
Great, so all you need to do is make your virtualenv
main olive
But if i want to set a diferent python version?
tawny sky
use the pyenv commands to change the version, then make your virtualenv
the virtualenv will be locked to whatever version you were using at the time
main olive
i will read the guide. Thank you for all <#
tawny sky
No worries
main olive
@tawny sky: Hey
tawny sky
Hey
main olive
you know what package is this?
No matching distribution found for pkg-resources==0.0.0 (from -r requirements.txt (line 19))
tawny sky
what the
main olive
this even existis?
tawny sky
why 0.0.0
main olive
that's what i'm thinking
tawny sky
one second
pkg_resources is actually part of setuptools
it shouldn't even be in the requirements file
tawny sky
remove it I guess, see if it still works
tawny sky
It doesn't exist on pypi so there's no way you could install it that way
main olive
there's a flag for skip it?
main olive
well, give me a lot of erros.
I upgrade pip version and work's now
only give me this erro: djangorestframework-filters 0.10.2.post0 has requirement django-filter~=1.0, but you'll have django-filter 2.0.0 which is incompatible.
But i expected that's not a problem
tawny sky
That looks alright, I guess
It might break things
It basically seems you're working with real old software
the end result of doing that means some versions you're using may no longer exist
you'll have to work with what you have
main olive
Well, that's cute. But if i 'might break things' i will be fired
tawny sky
I mean, it's hardly your fault is it
Software that's been unmaintained for so long that the libraries it depends on don't exist anymore? that's not your fault, you inherited it
main olive
Tell that to my boss..
tawny sky
If they fire you for that, they're probably a bad employer :P
ornate gyro
can't help atm, but I've also not worked with polybar before. My best guess is looking at the docs 🤷
robust cave
@autumn dune have you checked polybar docs? it has pretty good configuration documentation
slowly remove stuff from your current config one by one until the margin disappears 😛
mine is only 225 lines, how long is yours?
tfw comparing lengths
but most of the regualr stuff are at the top, and there aren't a lot
simple phoenix
Errpr: Package: python-libs-2.6.6-66.el6_8.x86_64 (@anaconda-CentOS-201703281317.x86_64/6.9)
Requires: libdb-4.7.so()(64bit)
Removing: db4-4.7.25-22.el6.x86_64 (@anaconda-CentOS-201703281317.x86_64/6.9)
libdb-4.7.so()(64bit)
Obsoleted By: libdb4-4.8.30-13.el7.x86_64 (epel)
Not found
``` I got something like this, how can i resolve this?Hi
I'm going to be getting a new laptop. and i will be using some form of linux.
Being a windows dev for so many years means I am very comfortable with it, but I want to try something new.
I am really looking for a distro recommendation - Preferably something easy - But a but more than ubuntu.
Simplicity of distro is important, and also being able to make a nice terminal would be great ;D
sage solar
you can make a nice terminal on every distro
sage solar
to a certain degree
there are some implementation details which are different but its mostly gonna work
and you still can just do bash script.sh in a zsh
gritty stirrup
Ok thats fine
@sage solar Can I pretty much copy my windows desktop in things like manjaro linux?
Manjaro looks like the right distro for me
But there's so many options
KDE, GNOME, XFCE
I3
sage solar
i mean there are certain DEs which aim to imitate windows
but tbh the basic functionality should be pretty equal and its not that hard to get used to other DEs
gritty stirrup
@sage solar I don't think I need i3 to get a simple desktop like that
So that narrows it down to either GNOME or KDE
What is the differences I should care about?
sage solar
personal preference?
worn apex
depends on the script, technically, but probably
you could also just still run the script with bash, and just use zsh for your interactive shell
oh i was scrolled up
upbeat badger
everything must be done in assembly
main olive
lol.. XD
warped nimbus
-R is short for --dereference-recursive
not sure what the 1 is
maybe it's treated as an operand?
I didn't think so
options can be chained that way, so it wouldn't make sense for it to be an operand
This seems more likely to be it: ```
-C num
-num
--context=num
Print num lines of leading and trailing output context.
No, like I said. It isn't an operand after all
The only option I found is the context one
it's the second alternative, -num
you don't type num, rather you put the actual number of lines to output
e.g. -1
and options can be combined, so -R1 instead of -R -1
That's the way I understand it. But I am not speaking from experience as I've never used either of these options before with grep
tardy hill
main olive
it's 1
ahhhh
that's probably it Mark
is there a way to preserve capture groups in sed
!echo '(snorlax "(1: words here) yes?"' | sed -E -r "/(snorlax/ s/([0-9]:) /:/g"
I check if the sentence has snorlax in it.. then remove the space after (n: where n is any number..
but its not working..
maybe sed isn't right for this?
main olive
what is the -e for in sed..
main olive
ahhh
that explains so much
is there a way to use a wildcard in a path being grep'd?
like..consider
!grep -l '([0-9]: ' 'home/dir/mac/info/' -R1
can I do
!grep -l '([0-9]: ' 'home/dir/*/info/' -R1
so it's any directory that has those same subfolder/subdirectories
warped nimbus
I don't know if grep supports globs for directory operands
Maybe you'll need to resort to using find first
main olive
find?
I thought find can only be used for.. searching in filenames
oh..you mean.. a Find before Grep.. to find partial patterns?
in the filepath?
warped nimbus
I'm not sure what you're trying to do
but maybe the -exec option of find will work for you
(you would use grep in the exec)
So this is my shell noobness showing, but wildcards are actually expanded by the shell not by individual tools
it wasn't a matter of grep not supporting it, so find would not be needed
rather, the wildcard just isn't expanded by the shell because you have quoted it
main olive
🤔
main olive
Hey, guys. I'm using ssh to connect to my server and i want to transfer a folder from the server for my pc
I have to use the scp like this?: scp <folder form my server> <myhost>@<myip>?
ornate gyro
https://linux.die.net/man/1/scp
scp -r <folder from your server> <yourusername>@<your hostname/ip>:/where/to/put/it
@ornate gyro : There is a problem. Here where i work we use a proxy connection, and everyone have the same IP. So i'm afraid to try this with the ip and the file go to another pc
tawny sky
@main olive If you're using ssh already, you can use sftp
main olive
@tawny sky : no
I try to make a scp for my own machine and got a connection refused, like what
tawny sky
@main olive What do you mean, no
I said sftp, not scp
:P
If you have an SSH client, you likely also already have SFTP
considering it also operates over SSH
main olive
but i don't want to use sftp
tawny sky
And why not?
main olive
I'm trying to send a folder to the server for my pc
tawny sky
yes, you can use sftp for that too
main olive
and getting a erro:
FATAL: failed to begin relaying via HTTP.
ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
lost connection
I just want to use a simple scp
tawny sky
you're using some kind of HTTP proxy?
tawny sky
I mean, I know exactly nothing about scp, I would personally use sftp for this
main olive
Actually, work when i transfer a folder from my pc to the server
but from server to my pc aren't working
tawny sky
Well, you can't just connect to your PC from the server
You'll need to connect to the server and then pull the files you need
main olive
I connect to the server via ssh
and trying to transfer the file from it
@tawny sky: I try with sudo ssh, and i get this:
ssh: connect to host <ip> port 22: No route to host
lost connection
Hey, @tawny sky . Can you help me using sftp?
radiant gust
@main olive scp user@remote:/etc/passwd /home/llun
gritty stirrup
What's everyone's favourite Linux terminal emulator?
oak shell
gnome-terminal does the job for me
gritty stirrup
I've been looking into arch/Manjaro Alot recently, and I'm confused by the whole "partitioning" thing. Mostly around the idea of deleting /
When I installed Manjaro, I just told it to "erase" all the old data. Is this fine? Or should I care about the swap etc partitions
sullen raven
@main olive do you have same issue still than restart your rooter and pc
vestal turret
/ being root
robust cave
If you’re using a graphical installer and you don’t care much about the data that’s currently on your disk, letting it wipe it gets rid of all the partitions too
gritty stirrup
Why do people decide "Hey for the graphical installer we are going to manually make all the partitions because I'm cool!!!!"
I want to use my own intelligence, but I see stuff like that and wonder what the hell is the right thing
The guy booted into Manjaro, opened a terminal and manually deleted root
robust cave
what? who? how?
minor siren
I wrote a shell script to run my bot but I am getting ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'discord' error. I am able to run the bot directly but not through this shell script. I am posting the script below:
#!/bin/sh
# launcher.sh
# navigate to home directory, then to this directory, then execute python script, then back home
cd /
cd home/pi/server/fortknight_bot #where the script is
sudo python3.7 bot.py #a commnad to run the script
cd /
The problem is you don't have discord Py installed
Not related to your shell script at all
minor siren
Then how is it running otherwise
I mean if I run it directly python3.7 bot.py it runs
sage solar
Presumably because you just installed discord Py for your user but are running with sudo so under the root user
sage solar
👍
minor siren
So python generally installs for the current user only?
minor siren
I compiled this version
sage solar
pip install --user module (unsurprisingly) just installs for the current user
minor siren
LOL I thought you were talking about python
Now I understand it clearly
Thanks
✌
@sage solar You know how to setup a cron job for this shell script?
To run at every restart
sage solar
I'd just write some systemd service
ornate gyro
^would also work
minor siren
● launchbot.service - Fortknight starter service
Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/launchbot.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
Active: inactive (dead) since Fri 2019-02-15 19:02:21 IST; 4min 34s ago
Process: 335 ExecStart=/home/pi/server/fortknight_bot/launch.sh (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
Main PID: 335 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
Feb 15 19:02:20 raspberrypi_SERVER systemd[1]: Started Fortknight starter service.
Feb 15 19:02:21 raspberrypi_SERVER launch.sh[335]: Traceback (most recent call last):
Feb 15 19:02:21 raspberrypi_SERVER launch.sh[335]: File "bot.py", line 1, in <module>
Feb 15 19:02:21 raspberrypi_SERVER launch.sh[335]: import discord
Feb 15 19:02:21 raspberrypi_SERVER launch.sh[335]: ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'discord'
Added a service but got the ModuleNotFoundError
Should I reinstall the module for all users
sage solar
what you should actually do is use a virtualenv or pipenv or poetry for project depedency management so this stuff doesnt bother you anymore but yes installing for all users would probably fix the issue
minor siren
Yep installed it for all users...
minor siren
Still the same error
Also tried venv
cd /
cd /home/pi/server/fortknight_bot #where the script is
source ./env/bin/activate #activate venv
python3.7 bot.py #a commnad to run the script
cd /
Okay I found a way around this problem
I used .bashrc file to run my script at startup
So if anyone needs an easy way to setup their bot to autorun at system boot, here one way to do it:
Create a bash (.sh) script which will contain the command to run the python file for e.g.:
Contents of launcher.sh:
#!/bin/sh
launcher.sh
navigate to home directory, then to this directory, then execute python script, then back home
cd /
cd /home/pi/server/fortknight_bot #where the script is
python3.7 bot.py #a commnad to run the script
cd /
Now edit your .bashrc file using nano or any other text editor of your choice:
sudo nano /home/pi/.bashrc
And add the following line at the EOF:
bash /home/pi/path/to/launcher.sh -b &
grave jolt
wont that run the program every time you open a bash shell eg via ssh or a graphical terminal?
robust cave
you probably want to have that, like Nix said, as a systemd service
or .xinitrc or .xprofile
gritty stirrup
Where do I find the folder where a program is installed?
Or, where does yay install its programs?
rustic sky
@gritty stirrup packages work a little differently on arch
when you install a package from the repos you actually install a tar.gz with folders such as usr and bin
so it's up to the packages where it has it's files placed
you can ask yay who owns a file though and also ask for the list of files owned by a package
yay -Fl package or yay -Fo file
to query package contents
to query file ownership
gritty stirrup
@rustic sky usr/share is useful
ornate gyro
if you're just looking for the executable, which is really useful
although it often points to a symbolic link
neat dagger
Folks with macs running Sierra, are you able to install the pattern package for Python?
Mine gets stuck at this error Command "python setup.py egg_info" failed with error code 1
echo cairn
i have mac high sierra, close enough?
haughty wasp
How can i download python3.7.2 on debian ?
grave jolt
if you cant get pyenv to work, and you cant create a non root user, just extract python to a location like /opt/python and then manually type /opt/python/bin/python or something when you run your scripts
i recommend trying to create a non root user however and use pyenv from that user
if you need a specific application to use this python, update the PATH environmental variable just for this specific program to have that python's bin directory at the front
eg if it has a startup script you can put
export PATH```@haughty wasp if you're on testing, python 3.7.2 is already in the repository - apt-get install python3
robust cave
if you're not on testing, this tutorial on compiling it from source isn't bad. https://tecadmin.net/install-python-3-7-on-ubuntu-linuxmint/
grave jolt
thats what caused the original issue
they replaced the default python
i recommend never using make install when you have access to packages
ah they have make altinstall , interesting
guess that just adds python3.7.whatever as an option
i still consider that risky if you are not super familiar with linux
robust cave
I'll be wary recommending this link then
gilded basalt
@haughty wasp The easiest way to install Pythons not in package manager repositories is to use pyenv
curl -L https://github.com/pyenv/pyenv-installer/raw/master/bin/pyenv-installer | bash
exec "$SHELL"
pyenv install 3.7.2
Also, 3.7 was recently added to Ubuntu, but I don't know if that was the Debian or Ubuntu repositories: sudo apt install python3.7
haughty wasp
Omg my life is saved
Thank y'all
And now, how can i set the default python3 command to python 3.7.2 ?
oak shell
You could probably add an alias rather safely, as that should only effect your interactive shell. I'd still prefer giving it a different name and not having the real command shadowed. Add something like this to your ~/.bash_aliases or ~/.bashrc
alias py='python3.7'
boreal viper
@haughty wasp usually /usr/bin/python is actually just a symlink to the versioned binary, like so:
ryan@charlie:~$ ls -alF /usr/bin/python
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Apr 16 2018 /usr/bin/python -> python2.7*
so you can just reset this symlink (as root: rm /usr/bin/python && ln -s /usr/bin/python3.7 /usr/bin/python) to reset python for everyone on the system, too.
haughty wasp
But with pyenv, the python versions are not installed in /usr/bin/ But i dunno where lul
boreal viper
@haughty wasp oh yeah sorry, I hadn't seen that you were using pyenv and I'm not familiar with it so I'm afraid I can't help much there
haughty wasp
I think i found something but i don't know if it's the good file
boreal viper
@haughty wasp yup that looks suspiciously (based on the size and its location) like what you're looking for!
haughty wasp
I'll try x)
So i have to do rm /usr/bin/python3 && ln -s /.pyenv/version/3.7.2/bin/python3.7 /usr/bin/python3 ?
haughty wasp
🤔
but i have to execute a file created with python 3.7.2 and i just have python 3.5.3 on debian 9
boreal viper
@haughty wasp can you not just directly execute the file via the 3.7.2 binary?
boreal viper
@haughty wasp /root/.pyenv/versions/3.7.2/bin/python3.7 /path/to/your/script
haughty wasp
@boreal viper anb @vestal turret Thank both verymuch, it works :D But i have a strange error
The file infos.json exists
boreal viper
@haughty wasp you're very welcome, glad to hear it!
@haughty wasp that open() call is looking for a file in a relative path (files/infos.json): are you running this in the folder that has the files/ folder within it?
vestal turret
Try replacing files/infos.json with the absolute path
boreal viper
or what @vestal turret said 😃
(that's probably a better idea anyway, or better still make that file's path a command-line argument!)
haughty wasp
Why when i try to run pip, it's says me```pyenv: pip3: command not found
The `pip3' command exists in these Python versions:
3.7.2
use /path/to/python/3.7 -m pip
this will make sure you are using the pip associated with that binary
haughty wasp
oh god... I forget that python 3.7 has problem with asyncio ;-;
Let's install python 3.6 ! ;_;
vestal turret
You could always still replace the f-strings with .format() or % formatting and use the system binary
main olive
how do I count total lines in all the files in a directory using grep
I know I can do.. for a single file
grep -r "some string" . | wc -l
find directorypath -type f -name "*.php" | grep -r "instance" . | wc -l
doesnt help
robust cave
every line in all the files in a directory?
@main olive
find . -type f -exec wc -l {} +
for specific files
find . -name '*.py' -exec wc -l {} +
not sure how to use grep to do so tho
main olive
I did something like
grep 'string sequence' dirpath/*.py | wc -l
not sure why my find didnt work..
robust cave
wat
main olive
wut
sterile bloom
if you need just to count the lines matching an expression, use grep --count
find . -name '*.py' -exec grep -c hunter2 {} \;
solid spindle
I have a question. Deja dup can't backup if you aren't logged in
Does screen lock count as being logged out? or would deja dup work despite the screen lock?
main olive
unable to create file '/run/user/1000/dconf/user': Permission denied. dconf will not work properly im getting this error when creating a file, using sudo io.elementary.code doesnt show any errors.
green fog
Check the file permissions and owner of the file
main olive
what does -c opt do
main olive
and opt?
vestal turret
What do you mean by that one?
main olive
I dont know.. lol its why I asked
I'll find the rest of the code.. where this was used
they passed -c opt
vestal turret
opt would be the command in that case
main olive
something like this
bazel build --config=opt --output_filter='^//tensorflow' //tensorflow/tools/pip_package:build_pip_package
Oh, it's not python 😅
main olive
they're building dependencies here.. for python
vestal turret
These options are for that specific program, I thought you mean the -c for the python program.
main olive
ahhhh
vestal turret
-c opt is to build with optimization enabled, debug information disabled.
main olive
I thought it was something common for all unix environments.. sorta like xargs :v
oki
radiant gust
any reason a cronjob set to trigger every minute wouldn't go off for an extended period of time (2h+) and then start working again when i log in 
grave jolt
did you use the system crontab or your user crontab?
radiant gust
user
but now that i think about it it may be possible that it did run and the thing it checked for (whether any python processes were running) was valid but for whatever reason my script wasn't working properly since my load averages were very low
smoky rose
can someone tell me why it shows this zos-remote.conf file when it should with that command only show files which start with a ?
oak shell
It did.
There is /etc/arch-release and /etc/atmsigd.conf at the top. Those are the files a* matches. (or [a]*, same thing)
Additionally, this also matches some directories starting with a, namely /etc/audisp/ and /etc/audit/ too.
If you give ls an argument that is a directory, it will by default list the contents of that directory and not the directory itself though
Try ls -d if you don't want to expand directories but show those as folders instead.
@smoky rose
smoky rose
awesome, thanks for help
naive stone
yo, kinda different to the usual questions here probably, but how can I get a second monitor to copy my first one in Linux (Ubuntu LTS)
grave jolt
with the terminal you can do xrandr --output otherdisplay --same-as mainscreen
but the display settings prob has an option for it
remote sierra
anyone ever use the subprocess module to call various networking tools such as iptables, ip route, etc. in a loop and have issues with subsequent runs?
i've got an automation tool that essentially runs a sequence of iptable/arp/ip route calls by calling subprocess.call() or subprocess.Popen() for the commands, but if it's run more than once without shutting down the instance of Python in between, then the subsequent runs seem to hang on trying to get it all configured
oak shell
.call should wait for the commands to finish, but have you tried adding a small delay between the calls anyway? Maybe they still do something in background after they return, no idea.
Just sleep a second between the calls and see if that works, to rule any timing issues out.
remote sierra
@oak shell I will try that, thanks
main olive
is there any possibility to surpress this warning? it is not classified as an erroor
objc[8502]: Class FIFinderSyncExtensionHost is implemented in both /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/FinderKit.framework/Versions/A/FinderKit (0x7fff911a5b68) and /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/FileProvider.framework/OverrideBundles/FinderSyncCollaborationFileProviderOverride.bundle/Contents/MacOS/FinderSyncCollaborationFileProviderOverride (0x11dcdecd8). One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined.
path = ""
while not (os.path.exists(path)):
path = input("Enter the path where the files should be saved. If you need help, type \"help\". ")
if path == "help":
tkinter.Tk().withdraw()
data["path"] = filedialog.askdirectory()
mighty epoch
does anyone know a good and reliable way to play a sound on unix ? I've found some bits and pieces of info around, but the only good solution I found was windows only. I saw a solution that uses GStreamer on *nix but it only plays the sound, no info on the amount of time elapsed, pause/unpause functionnality or even stopping the sound
tender thicket
@mighty epoch are you looking to play a small notification type sound, or a music player?
mighty epoch
more like music player @tender thicket