#unix | Python | Page 19

oak shell Nov 6, 2018, 7:18 PM

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You should be able to inotifywait -e open -m /usr/bin/whatever to monitor the executable file for access (which includes executing, but also opening for read or write, and could fire multiple times per execution)

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Then once you know the file has been accessed, assuming the process doesn't terminate "instantly", you can check the associated process id with pgrep /usr/bin/whatever, though that might report multiple PIDs if you have multiple instances of whatever running

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You could then poll for the end of the process

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Or attach an strace to it, but that needs sudo.

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However, the ideal way would probably be to write a wrapper script that runs the pre- and post-tasks and calls the real executable in between, if you have that control over the system

main olive Nov 7, 2018, 12:51 AM

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hello friends! anyone using python on osx have time for a few questions?

oak shell Nov 7, 2018, 12:57 AM

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!t ask

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main olive Nov 7, 2018, 12:58 AM

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lol thank, wasn't aware of that

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if i install python through homebrew and then decide to install anaconda, would they be using both the same version of python ?

zinc bobcat Nov 7, 2018, 1:31 AM

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I don’t think they play particularly well with each other

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I think Conda ends up taking priority since it modifies your path

main olive Nov 7, 2018, 1:46 AM

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👍 @zinc bobcat

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Sorry i'm fairly new to this, when you guys work or tinker with python, do you actually create a self contained environment with virtualenv or anaconda everytime ? Would there be a downside to use say an idle like sublimetext or pycharm and install libraries to the new python3.7 as you go?

zinc bobcat Nov 7, 2018, 2:02 AM

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There is no downside, no

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The advantage of virtual environments is it allows you to control things when you’re working on something more formally

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If I’m just messing around I don’t bother with an environment, not really much point

main olive Nov 7, 2018, 2:18 AM

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hey ELA, thanks for the replies, you mind me asking what kind of setup you're using?

zinc bobcat Nov 7, 2018, 2:21 AM

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Many

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mostly a windows 10 PC and a MBP

main olive Nov 7, 2018, 2:26 AM

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when it comes to running scripts on either computers, do you make sure you have a 1-1 copy of every dependencies on your machines or is there a magic switch to import them all with the script? 😃

zinc bobcat Nov 7, 2018, 2:27 AM

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I do it the lazy way and install them when I'm running something and it errors out when they're not found

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I don't really use very many so it's generally consistent regardless

main olive Nov 7, 2018, 2:30 AM

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lol

gilded basalt Nov 7, 2018, 4:57 AM

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@oak shell I'm basically developing a tool to update Discord rich presence status, as a framework to plug in various things. For instance, if I open VMware, it'll update my status with the VM I'm using. So, no control over system, but inotifywait and pgrep seem useful.

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👌

oak shell Nov 7, 2018, 11:23 AM

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well, for a Discord Rich Presence tool, I'd just resort to polling the names you're interested in with pgrep once every second (or every 5s)

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One pgrep call is really not expensive.

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And it's not like you have to make sure you catch a process that runs for just a millisecond

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don't overengineer

nocturne herald Nov 7, 2018, 3:17 PM

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hi, we adviced me to try this channel so, i try.

i am writing a program to test my library writen in asm/c to compare them with the real libc functions.
so i create my libasm_builder.py:

from cffi import FFI

ffiBuilder = FFI()

ffiBuilder.cdef("""
    void    ft_bzero(void *s, size_t n);
    char    *ft_strcat(char *dest, const char *src);
    int        ft_isalpha(int c);
    int        ft_isdigit(int c);
    int        ft_isalnum(int c);
    int        ft_isascii(int c);
    int        ft_isprint(int c);
    int        ft_toupper(int c);
    int        ft_tolower(int c);
    int        ft_puts(const char *s);
    size_t    ft_strlen(const char *s);
    void    *ft_memset(void *s, int c, size_t n);
    void    *ft_memcpy(void *dest, const void *src, size_t n);
    char    *ft_strdup(const char *s);
    void    ft_cat(int fd);
    int        ft_islower(int c);
    int        ft_isupper(int c);
""")

ffiBuilder.set_source("_libasm_cffi",
    """
        #include "libftasm.h"
    """,
    libraries=['ftasm'],
    runtime_library_dirs=['/Users/avalanche/libasm/libftasm/'],
    include_dirs=['/Users/avalanche/libasm/libftasm/header/']
)

if __name__ == "__main__":
    ffiBuilder.compile(verbose=True)

so that create me my _cffi_libasm.so, and in my program i try to import it:

from _libasm_cffi import ffi, lib
from _libc_cffi import lib as libC

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but gives me this error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "libasm_tester.py", line 4, in <module>
    from _libasm_cffi import ffi, lib
ImportError: dlopen(/Users/avalanche/libasm/libftasm/lib_tester/_libasm_cffi.cpython-37m-darwin.so, 2): Library not loaded: libftasm.dylib
  Referenced from: /Users/avalanche/libasm/libftasm/lib_tester/_libasm_cffi.cpython-37m-darwin.so
  Reason: image not found

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how come the lines

libraries=['ftasm'],
runtime_library_dirs=['/Users/avalanche/libasm/libftasm/'],
include_dirs=['/Users/avalanche/libasm/libftasm/header/']

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in my libasm_builder.py doesn't seem to work ?

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so my libftasm.dylib is not in the same repo as the libtester stuff

nocturne herald Nov 7, 2018, 5:05 PM

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export DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/lib is the solution

main olive Nov 7, 2018, 8:35 PM

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hey i'm getting started with python on linux

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what is your setup?

main olive Nov 7, 2018, 10:17 PM

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i'm on a mac and pc, just started too

gilded basalt Nov 8, 2018, 7:37 AM

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@oak shell Yeah, that's my current approach (though using psutil in Python). I just don't like the lag to update, but 1 second really isn't that bad.

neat schooner Nov 9, 2018, 8:07 PM

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Hey! I was wondering why i was getting a permission error when trying to upload a file to my server? I'm using SFTP and the user im logging in with has 777 permissions on the folder and all of the subfolders / files on it but i still can't upload anything.

neat schooner Nov 9, 2018, 9:47 PM

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Got it working by using the root user.

neat schooner Nov 9, 2018, 10:30 PM

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I got another issue now, image files are uploading as text

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Nvm found the issue.

green fog Nov 9, 2018, 11:03 PM

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Fairly sure you need to chown the directories to the nobody:noone

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Or something like that

worn apex Nov 9, 2018, 11:21 PM

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check for ACLs

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how depends on what OS exactly

vapid depot Nov 10, 2018, 1:42 PM

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i searched for enemy propaganda but found 90% going for linux

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only one i can find is like 10 years old and just has tons of "adbock detected" popups when i dont even have an adblock

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it says ```1. No operating system is as user-friendly as Microsoft Windows. No one wants to write numerous lines of code if he/she can get the same work done by a few clicks. The user interface of Microsoft Windows is much better and easy to adjust as compared to the Open Source Operating Systems. This is due to the fact that Microsoft Windows is designed in such a way that even the most basic users can adjust to its interface.

Windows commands a market share of around 90% while Linux is still languishing at around 1%, even today. Due to its large user base, Microsoft Windows has a wide ecosystem and supports a large number of software which provides its users an opportunity to select software programs as per their need – many of it being free software too. Open Source operating systems also have a huge collection of supported software but in comparison to Microsoft Windows, they lag behind; seeing that most of the software programs are built while taking Microsoft Windows into consideration.```

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they dont know what a server and it is 10 years out of date

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Open Source operating systems like the server editions based on Linux Kernel are often called the most secure operating systems. If not better in this regard, Microsoft Windows Server Editions are equally secure and they are constantly being made better day by day. The fact is because Windows is used by most people around the world, malware writers find it more profitable to attack Windows, hence it is hammered at more often. After all, why would anyone want to target 2-3% of the operating system market? oh and this gem ^

sage solar Nov 10, 2018, 1:47 PM

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

vapid depot Nov 10, 2018, 1:48 PM

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hmmmm my brian dont function, sary

gilded basalt Nov 11, 2018, 3:40 AM

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gnuthink

vestal jackal Nov 11, 2018, 7:33 PM

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Hi, hope you can help me out with this. I've developed and API and deployed it to a Linode server. So far so good. Then I have another app that makes GET requests to that API endpoints successfully when running it from my local computer. However, when I deploy this app to the same Linode server the API is hosted at, GET requests return 404 :S Do you know what could be the issue here?

green fog Nov 12, 2018, 7:30 AM

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Log what packets are received on the server, if they're not actually being received then check that the address you're specifying is correct

rotund fog Nov 12, 2018, 9:25 AM

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is it worth upgrading to 18.04/10

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im still on 16.04

oak shell Nov 12, 2018, 9:27 AM

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me too

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not sure yet

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but I'll try it soon on my work laptop, which seems to be breaking apart with lots of issues, especially related to standby, wifi and performance recently

rotund fog Nov 12, 2018, 9:28 AM

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do you happen to have one of those nvidia optimus gpus

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i remember having some standby issues due to the nvidia drivers

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nouveau worked fine iirc

cold pagoda Nov 12, 2018, 9:32 AM

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I'm on 18.10

oak shell Nov 12, 2018, 9:32 AM

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I have a dedicated nvidia at home, but no issues there

cold pagoda Nov 12, 2018, 9:33 AM

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Support seems better than ever, except for one thing: I can't get my login screen on my second monitor without my system hanging on logout

oak shell Nov 12, 2018, 9:33 AM

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(except that nvidia doesn't work at all a few days after I fix it all the time)

cold pagoda Nov 12, 2018, 9:33 AM

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I have the dual thing in my laptop with 18.10

oak shell Nov 12, 2018, 9:33 AM

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but the machine with the standby issues has intel only

cold pagoda Nov 12, 2018, 9:33 AM

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Works flawlessly now, except that logout thing

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Wait, there are a few bugs in 18.10 that were not in 18.04

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I've customized my dock panel in Gnome (at the bottom, no extent, auto-hide), but it sometimes autohides while mouse is over it, combined with a css glitch. Happens rarely, but a alt+F2 r is required to fix it.

robust cave Nov 13, 2018, 3:31 AM

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18.04 working pretty good for me, don't want to risk going 18.10

gilded basalt Nov 13, 2018, 4:02 AM

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I had no issues going to 18.10

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In fact, the Desktop was noticeably snappier and more responsive in my VMs

cold pagoda Nov 13, 2018, 7:58 AM

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Except for those two things above, 18.10 runs better for me, too

manic glacier Nov 13, 2018, 3:58 PM

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Is there a way to rebind key like AHK? I've been looking and the closest I've got is AutoKey

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Should I plunge?

grave jolt Nov 13, 2018, 3:59 PM

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xbindkeys if you are still in xorg

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but its SUPER basic

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there are some other x specific tools as well that i dont recall off the top of my head

stark vapor Nov 13, 2018, 4:00 PM

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xdotool, although I'm not sure if it does bindings, just executes input.

grave jolt Nov 13, 2018, 4:00 PM

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otherwise your desktop environment likely has something built in

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you can also switch to a more powerful/complex setup with like i3 or something, that type of de tend to be super customizable

manic glacier Nov 13, 2018, 4:02 PM

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KDE Neon

grave jolt Nov 13, 2018, 4:02 PM

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i imagine kde has some decent binding tools built in, but I dont use it on any of my systems atm so couldnt say what they were

manic glacier Nov 13, 2018, 4:02 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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My script is kinda simple tbf: E to D, I to F, R to J, U to K

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and Ctrl F6 to suspend

upper raptor Nov 13, 2018, 5:33 PM

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in fact do they? I think there are commands which don't run on mac but do in ubuntu

main olive Nov 13, 2018, 5:33 PM

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htop runs

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upper raptor Nov 13, 2018, 5:34 PM

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fuser runs for you?

main olive Nov 13, 2018, 5:34 PM

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whats fuser

upper raptor Nov 13, 2018, 5:34 PM

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fuser -k 8080/tcp

main olive Nov 13, 2018, 5:34 PM

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upper raptor Nov 13, 2018, 5:36 PM

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I think what I am referring to are package specific commands

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I stand corrected

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atm, I can't think of any that won't run

main olive Nov 13, 2018, 5:37 PM

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https:// brew.sh/

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could probaly install any unix shit

velvet trellis Nov 14, 2018, 3:33 AM

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has anyone got any experience with crontab and could help me out?

velvet trellis Nov 14, 2018, 8:41 AM

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anyone? please?

main olive Nov 14, 2018, 9:02 AM

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Why internal microphone does not work in Ubuntu 18.04? It works when I use pavucontrol and move right slider to 0, but it automaticly changing to default value in few seconds and again doesn't work

gritty stirrup Nov 14, 2018, 10:40 AM

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@velvet trellis what do you wanna do.

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??

velvet trellis Nov 14, 2018, 10:43 AM

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so I have a cron job: */30 * * * * cd /root/organicGrowthBot && chmod u+x run.py && sudo python run.py

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I've literally mucked around with this for 2 days now. this is the only way it's actually executing

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i was having permissions problems I think, because it was in /root/ directory, im not too sure as im not that experienced with cron. how could I simplify this anyway? @gritty stirrup

bitter salmon Nov 14, 2018, 12:03 PM

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Freebsd, getting this message in my jail.. anyone know how to fix it.

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Shared object "libdl.so.1" not found, required by "python3.6"

oak shell Nov 14, 2018, 12:06 PM

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on Ubuntu, I'd check what package usually provides this file and whether I have it installed and the file is where it is supposed to be

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if not, install it

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otherwise I'd start cursing and try to remember how to reconfigure the ld linker

bitter salmon Nov 14, 2018, 12:15 PM

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im doing a bsd upgrade on the jail

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only thing it could be at this point I think

bitter salmon Nov 14, 2018, 12:31 PM

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yay.. it works

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iocage upgrade libiocage -r 11.2-RELEASE

cursive dune Nov 17, 2018, 2:14 AM

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I need help

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I keep getting Unknown option: -m
usage: python [option] ... [-c cmd | file | -] [arg] ...
Try `python -h' for more information.
Press any key to continue . . .

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code for batch is @echo off

rem Choose correct python command to execute the OTP
ppythona -h >nul 2>&1 && (
set PYTHON_CMD=ppythona
) || (
set PYTHON_CMD=ppython
)

cd ../

rem Start the OTP using the PYTHON_CMD variable
:main
%PYTHON_CMD% -m game.AIStart
pause
goto :main

warped nimbus Nov 17, 2018, 2:16 AM

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batch script? isn't this for #491524019825278977 ?

bleak forge Nov 17, 2018, 9:30 PM

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I'm having a major issue with uwsgi sock file and nginx

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there seems to be a permission issue with nginx serving the sock file

jagged orbit Nov 18, 2018, 1:46 AM

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chmod 777 file_i_want_to_run

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gives everyone permission to read, write, append and execute that file

oak shell Nov 18, 2018, 12:25 PM

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yes

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which is usually bad

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you don't want world-writable files normally

main olive Nov 18, 2018, 12:43 PM

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I would indeed use u+x, or g+x, etc, depends on what's needed

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777 can be a security hole

robust storm Nov 19, 2018, 2:15 AM

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I'm looking to start using virtualenv/virtualenvwrapper on my ubuntu subsystem, but I'm wondering- If I have my envs in ~/.virtualenvs and my project in ~/gitsrc/projectname .. can I cd into my project's git folder and activate the env in there, or does my project have to be in the virtualenv directory?

warped nimbus Nov 19, 2018, 2:20 AM

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You should be able to do workon from anywhere I think

robust storm Nov 19, 2018, 2:20 AM

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that's what im hoping, so if i do workon projectname from within my gitsrc/projectname folder, where are any pip installed modules installed to? the git folder or the main venv folder?

tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 2:21 AM

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actually why don't u use pipenv?

warped nimbus Nov 19, 2018, 2:21 AM

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It cd into your project directory for you

tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 2:21 AM

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it's a lot easier

warped nimbus Nov 19, 2018, 2:21 AM

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and then it will activate the virtualenv associated with that project

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so all modules installed with pip will be done inside the venv

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since, again, it activates the venv for you

tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 2:21 AM

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wait r u talking about pipenv?

warped nimbus Nov 19, 2018, 2:21 AM

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no

tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 2:21 AM

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ok

robust storm Nov 19, 2018, 2:22 AM

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to be honestly im starting fresh w/ virtualenvs.. i want to start keeping things clean rather than installing to the system python and risk messing something up

tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 2:23 AM

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i will actually highly recommend pipenv tho

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u can sync requirements between different devices

zinc bobcat Nov 19, 2018, 2:23 AM

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You can do that with a regular venv too

warped nimbus Nov 19, 2018, 2:24 AM

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Anyway, did I answer your question @robust storm

tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 2:24 AM

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yes but the problem is he's venv is in different dir as the project does

zinc bobcat Nov 19, 2018, 2:24 AM

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That’s not a problem

tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 2:24 AM

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i think that's what he asked

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or i misunderstand it

robust storm Nov 19, 2018, 2:25 AM

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@warped nimbus Yea I'm reading through it all lol.. if I'm understanding correctly, I can link a venv to a specific project folder outside of the main venv directory?

warped nimbus Nov 19, 2018, 2:25 AM

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yes

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with -a

robust storm Nov 19, 2018, 2:27 AM

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are virtualenv and venv two separate modules?

warped nimbus Nov 19, 2018, 2:27 AM

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venv isn't a module afaik

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it's just shorthand for virtualenv

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and you probably meant package not module

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but same answer applies

robust storm Nov 19, 2018, 2:28 AM

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yea that lol.. sorry been face deep in python coding lately that everything's a module to me at this point 😛

tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 2:28 AM

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it actually is tbh

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every script is a module

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but let's keep on topic

warped nimbus Nov 19, 2018, 2:29 AM

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but packages aren't modules 🤔

tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 2:29 AM

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GWchadLENNYTHINK

zinc bobcat Nov 19, 2018, 2:31 AM

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venv is different from virtualenv

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venv is in the standard library, virtualenv is external

warped nimbus Nov 19, 2018, 2:33 AM

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oh I forgot that module exists

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I've never used it directly

tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 2:33 AM

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oh wait there is a difference?

warped nimbus Nov 19, 2018, 2:33 AM

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https://docs.python.org/3/library/venv.html

tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 2:33 AM

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cool

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i also forget that since i use pipenv heavily

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GWeniThinkUp

robust storm Nov 19, 2018, 3:02 AM

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hmm 🤔

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tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 3:09 AM

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hmm

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dont get it

robust storm Nov 19, 2018, 3:11 AM

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guess i have to map my python version to VIRTUALENVWRAPPER_PYTHON, install guide im using said nothing of it

tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 3:11 AM

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@robust storm is it ok if u use pipenv??

robust storm Nov 19, 2018, 3:11 AM

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this is all for personal use, i can use whatever lol

tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 3:11 AM

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try it then

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much easier then this

robust storm Nov 19, 2018, 3:11 AM

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is it because i wasnt sudo installing? i was just doing python3 -m pip install

tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 3:12 AM

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sudo wont do anything tho

robust storm Nov 19, 2018, 3:12 AM

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kk

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pipenv still requires virtualenv right? i can hose virtualenvwrapper though?

tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 3:23 AM

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it do need virtualenv

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but it handles locations and paths for u

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all u need is to pipenv shell

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and it activates for u

robust storm Nov 19, 2018, 3:25 AM

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kk thx

warped nimbus Nov 19, 2018, 3:28 AM

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Error was probably related to not setting VIRTUALENVWRAPPER_PYTHON by the way

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you should just do this all in .bashrc anyway

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were you doing source yourself for testing ?

robust storm Nov 19, 2018, 3:28 AM

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so i can map, mark work_home and source all in bashrc?

warped nimbus Nov 19, 2018, 3:29 AM

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This is what I have in mine for virtualenvwrapper py export WORKON_HOME=$HOME/.virtualenvs export PROJECT_HOME=$HOME/repos/python/ source /usr/bin/virtualenvwrapper_lazy.sh

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the project home is optional I think

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and I didn't need to set VIRTUALENVWRAPPER_PYTHON but looks like you do

robust storm Nov 19, 2018, 3:31 AM

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would /usr/local/bin/python3 be the right path?

warped nimbus Nov 19, 2018, 3:31 AM

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maybe. just do which python3 and use that?

robust storm Nov 19, 2018, 3:31 AM

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oh its /usr/bin, alrighty then lol

tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 3:32 AM

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cool

robust storm Nov 19, 2018, 3:36 AM

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im guessing that worked, restarted bash and got this

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warped nimbus Nov 19, 2018, 3:38 AM

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I don't those (log?) messages but maybe it's fine yeah

robust storm Nov 19, 2018, 3:38 AM

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i only got it on first relaunch, it's not doing it again, guessing since theyre already created

warped nimbus Nov 19, 2018, 3:38 AM

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fair enough

main olive Nov 19, 2018, 10:12 PM

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I think You can only make an OS with C++ or assembly, not python which is sad 😦

tulip vapor Nov 19, 2018, 10:13 PM

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what is C then?

sage solar Nov 19, 2018, 10:20 PM

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you can make an Operating System with any language that can compile into a freestanding binary

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which includes C/C++ assembly Rust etc

worn apex Nov 20, 2018, 12:08 AM

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well

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has to be able to compile into a freestanding binary and give you adequate access to low-level cpu services (generally by being combined with assembly, either inline or in linked files, though there were some C compilers that would directly let you compile a function as an interrupt service routine instead of a normal subroutine etc)

oak shell Nov 20, 2018, 12:11 AM

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stuff like the initial boot loader stage would still be done by hand in assembler, because there it matters what byte ends up where exactly

robust storm Nov 20, 2018, 7:15 AM

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@main olive Thanks for the tip. Luckily I'm doing this on a windows subsystem install, so if need be I can just reset it and start over.

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Yea, I wasn't sure where to put the question, because it is linux, but its through windows? I do have ubuntu full loaded on a laptop though, so that tip won't go to waste. Just for reference though, what kind of stuff does get sudo installed? Just apt-get things?

main olive Nov 20, 2018, 4:16 PM

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Never sudo yaourt -Sy things either

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lemonpeek

zinc bobcat Nov 20, 2018, 7:18 PM

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!warn 136174338633105408 Giving out commands to wipe people's drives

shy yokeBOT Nov 20, 2018, 7:18 PM

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:ok_hand: warned @jagged orbit (Giving out commands to wipe people's drives).

jagged orbit Nov 20, 2018, 7:18 PM

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oh

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how many of those can i get @zinc bobcat

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sry bout that

zinc bobcat Nov 20, 2018, 7:19 PM

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There's no set number

jagged orbit Nov 20, 2018, 7:19 PM

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oh ok

zinc bobcat Nov 20, 2018, 7:20 PM

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While people should know better, there are plenty of cases in the history of the internet where people have blindly run things like that

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So let's not

jagged orbit Nov 20, 2018, 7:22 PM

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yeah forgot that theres ppl like that

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sry

long vault Nov 23, 2018, 11:50 PM

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Does anyone here know how to instill IRAF on ubuntu?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 12:35 AM

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@long vault https://glauffer.github.io/2017-04-01-Intalling-iraf-on-ubuntu-16-04/ ?

Installing IRAF on Ubuntu 16.04

Check this post for a better and easier way to install IRAF. This is outdated The IRAF (Image Reduction and Analysis Facility) is a general purpose software system for the reduction and analysis of astronomical data. I had to use it for a class project on my masters and I...

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sorry

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https://glauffer.github.io/2018-08-03-the-easy-way-to-install-iraf/

The easy way to install IRAF

The IRAF (Image Reduction and Analysis Facility) is a general purpose software system for the reduction and analysis of astronomical data. It can be easily installed via the astroconda channel of the STScI (Space Telescope Science Institute). The only dependencies are the con...

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Posted on August 3, 2018

main olive Nov 24, 2018, 5:29 AM

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when i run

gcc -I/usr/include/python3.6 -o test test.c -lpython3.6

it doesnt work, but when i replace both of the python3.6 s with 2.7s it works how do i get it to work with py3.6 as well

vagrant fern Nov 24, 2018, 9:04 AM

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we can't help you from "it doesn't work"

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need more information

main olive Nov 24, 2018, 9:05 AM

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/usr/bin/ld: can not find '-lpython3.6'

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there you og

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go*

tulip vapor Nov 24, 2018, 9:13 AM

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not sure if it your problem but i found this on stackoverflow

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https://stackoverflow.com/questions/35086432/usr-bin-ld-cannot-find-lpython-dev-on-ubuntu-compiling-c-program-using-pyobj

Stack Overflow

/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpython-dev on Ubuntu. Compiling C progr...

I have the following C program which I need to integrate with Python:

#include <Python.h>

PyObject* get_details(){
PyObject *details = PyDict_New();
PyObject *key, *value;
key =

main olive Nov 24, 2018, 9:16 AM

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read it, cant understand it

tulip vapor Nov 24, 2018, 9:23 AM

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sorry but i can't either...

main olive Nov 24, 2018, 12:10 PM

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hey guys im in an emergency need help quick

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anyone?

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 2:03 PM

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Just ask

oak shell Nov 24, 2018, 2:24 PM

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(2h later)

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he might be dead already

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 2:26 PM

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At least I tried

oak shell Nov 24, 2018, 2:26 PM

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have a 🍪

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 2:28 PM

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takes cookie

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 8:19 PM

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@chrome stag Sorry to ping you for this, but do you know why this happens and how to fix it?

📎 unknown.png

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I followed the steps in the instructions but it doesnt know the command

gritty stirrup Nov 24, 2018, 8:44 PM

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@long vault mkdir iraf

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???

grave jolt Nov 24, 2018, 8:44 PM

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did you activate iraf27

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looks like an issue with your PATH not getting updated

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 8:47 PM

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I already did mkdir iraf

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I also did $ source activate iraf27

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 8:50 PM

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@long vault Np man

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Let me take a look

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oh god

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They're using python 2.7

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Do you have python 2.7 installed, @long vault ?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 8:51 PM

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don't think so, only installed the dual boot 2day

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 8:51 PM

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try to type in a new console python2

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and tell me if it shows python 2.7

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If you check the first comment it seems there's a guy with your problem too

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 8:52 PM

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Command 'python2' not found, but can be installed with:

sudo apt install python-minimal

casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 8:52 PM

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sudo apt install python-minimal

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try to install it and reenter with source activate

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if it's still not working, try

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sudo apt install iraf pyraf

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btw, reading the comments they say:

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Since Ubuntu 18.04 (and in the upcoming Debian Buster), iraf and pyraf are contained in the distribution, and can be installed directly with "apt install iraf pyraf". Compared to the original version, it has a lot of bugs fixed. That should make installation much easier. If you find any problems, please report back.

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So it's seems that you don't need to do any of this

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 8:54 PM

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I used that, but that doesnt fix the mkiraf command

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 8:54 PM

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ok, give me a sec

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 8:55 PM

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or do I not even need to do it?

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with that command?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 8:55 PM

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No, you don't

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All this fugazzi was because it wasn't supposed to be in the repos

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if it is in the repos, you install it with apt-get install iraf pyraf

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wait for it to install, and you browse iraf in your app menus

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or type iraf in a console

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I'm certain that in debian testing it works out of the box

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pyraf too, in case you need it

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but it seems you need to install saods9 with sudo apt install saods9 or apt-get install saods9

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The DS9 software can be used together with iraf. For this, before starting iraf type:

& ds9 &

The fits images can be visualized in DS9 via the display command on iraf.

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I don't know what ds9 is, but you can launch it with ds9. Don't follow his example because the & thing, not completly detaches the program. So your best bet it's two terminals or two tabs opened with both commands

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 8:57 PM

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I type apt-get install soads9 in a new terminal I suppose

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 8:57 PM

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with the sudo, there's no need for a new terminal

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If you want I can make you a list of the things you need to do

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sudo apt-get install saods9 iraf pyraf -y #Installs the packages

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ds9 #type this before launching any of the two programs, it has some image funcionality that I don't know of

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and then you either:

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iraf

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or

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pyraf

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in a new terminal

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1 term with ds9, other term with iraf or pyraf

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makes sense?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 8:59 PM

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It says source activate iraf27

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woops

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 8:59 PM

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you don't need to do that anymore

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:00 PM

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thats what it says

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:00 PM

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what or where does it says that?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:00 PM

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[sudo] password for casper: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package soads9
E: Unable to locate package pyraf
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$ ^C
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:00 PM

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type:

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lsb_release -a

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and copy the output

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:01 PM

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No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:    Ubuntu
Description:    Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
Release:    18.04
Codename:    bionic
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:01 PM

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sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search iraf

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and copy the output

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:02 PM

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Hit:1 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease
Hit:2 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates InRelease
Hit:3 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-backports InRelease
Get:4 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease [83,2 kB]
Fetched 83,2 kB in 2s (47,0 kB/s) 
Reading package lists... Done
cpl-plugin-giraf - ESO data reduction pipeline for the GIRAFFE instrument
cpl-plugin-giraf-calib - ESO data reduction pipeline calibration data downloader for GIRAFFE
cpl-plugin-giraf-doc - ESO data reduction pipeline documentation for GIRAFFE
iraf - Image Reduction and Analysis Facility
iraf-dev - Image Reduction and Analysis Facility (development files)
iraf-noao - IRAF NOAO data reduction package
iraf-noao-dev - IRAF NOAO data reduction package (development files)
iraf-rvsao - IRAF package to obtain radial velocities from spectra
iraf-wcstools - Handle the WCS of a FITS image (IRAF package)
libwcstools-dev - Handle the WCS of a FITS image (development files)
libwcstools1 - Handle the WCS of a FITS image (shared library)
python-pyraf - Python 2 interface for IRAF
python3-pyraf - Python 3 interface for IRAF
swarp - Resample and co-add together FITS images
wcstools - Handle the WCS of a FITS image
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:02 PM

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sudo apt-cache search soads9

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and the output

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:02 PM

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no output

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:02 PM

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ok

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so

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sudo apt-get install iraf iraf-naoao iraf-rvsao python3-pyraf && iraf

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:04 PM

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Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package iraf-naoao
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:04 PM

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wth it shows in the cache

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my bad

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sudo apt-get install iraf iraf-noao iraf-rvsao python3-pyraf && iraf

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now it should work

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I think you want to replace it with pyraf instead of iraf, but for me both are speaking in alien

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:05 PM

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well I need iraf to work

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:05 PM

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haha

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That program is really weird

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:06 PM

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Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... 50%
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
iraf is already the newest version (2.16.1+2018.03.10-2).
iraf-noao is already the newest version (2.16.1+2018.03.10-2).
iraf-noao set to manually installed.
python3-pyraf is already the newest version (2.1.14+dfsg-6).
python3-pyraf set to manually installed.
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  iraf-rvsao
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
Need to get 4284 kB of archives.
After this operation, 15,8 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe amd64 iraf-rvsao amd64 2.8.3-1 [4284 kB]
Fetched 4284 kB in 2s (2446 kB/s)     
Selecting previously unselected package iraf-rvsao.
(Reading database ... 174584 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../iraf-rvsao_2.8.3-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking iraf-rvsao (2.8.3-1) ...
Setting up iraf-rvsao (2.8.3-1) ...
iraf: command not found
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:06 PM

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iraf command not found

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well, at least it's all installed

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hmmm

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type: whereis iraf

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I think that was the command

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if it doesn't give it an output, which iraf

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:06 PM

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iraf: /usr/lib/iraf /etc/iraf
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:07 PM

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so it is there

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ok, try

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/usr/lib/iraf

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:07 PM

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try where? (sorry i dont know anything about linux)

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:07 PM

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don't worry

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:07 PM

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is type it in the terminal??

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:07 PM

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like that, type it in the terminal

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yes, seems weird

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but it's supposed to work

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if it works we will make it easier, don't worry

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:08 PM

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bash: /usr/lib/iraf: Is a directory

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:08 PM

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ok

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so ls /usr/lib/iraf

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and let's see what's inside

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:08 PM

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bin  dev  extern  lib  local  math  noao  pkg  sys  unix
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:09 PM

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ls -lsha /usr/lib/iraf/*

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:09 PM

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total 48K
4,0K drwxr-xr-x  12 root root 4,0K nov 24 20:56 .
4,0K drwxr-xr-x 133 root root 4,0K nov 24 20:58 ..
4,0K drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4,0K nov 24 20:56 bin
4,0K drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4,0K nov 24 20:56 dev
4,0K drwxr-xr-x   3 root root 4,0K nov 24 22:05 extern
4,0K drwxr-xr-x   3 root root 4,0K nov 24 20:56 lib
4,0K drwxr-xr-x   4 root root 4,0K nov 24 20:56 local
4,0K drwxr-xr-x   9 root root 4,0K nov 24 20:56 math
4,0K drwxr-xr-x  20 root root 4,0K nov 24 20:56 noao
4,0K drwxr-xr-x  16 root root 4,0K nov 24 20:56 pkg
4,0K drwxr-xr-x  19 root root 4,0K nov 24 20:56 sys
4,0K drwxr-xr-x   4 root root 4,0K nov 24 20:56 unix
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:09 PM

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with the *

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the * means any directory

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:09 PM

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-lsha: command not found
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:09 PM

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so I can see what's inside of each, in case it isn't in bin

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:09 PM

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hm

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:09 PM

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with the ls

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you're an astrophysicist, I'm pretty sure you're not

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:10 PM

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thing its too long for disc

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:11 PM

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ok

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so

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cd /usr/lib/iraf

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and

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ls bin/*

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:11 PM

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casper@casper-GL553VD:/usr/lib/iraf$ ls bin/*
bin/cl.e        bin/x_imdkern.e    bin/x_plot.e      bin/x_tv.e
bin/ecl.e       bin/x_lists.e      bin/x_proto.e     bin/x_utilities.e
bin/irafks.e    bin/x_mkttydata.e  bin/x_sgikern.e   bin/x_vol.e
bin/x_color.e   bin/x_ncar.e       bin/x_softools.e
bin/x_dataio.e  bin/x_nttools.e    bin/x_stdgraph.e
bin/x_images.e  bin/x_obsolete.e   bin/x_system.e
casper@casper-GL553VD:/usr/lib/iraf$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:11 PM

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ls unix/*

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:12 PM

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unix/bin:
alloc.e    sgi2svg.e   sgi2ueps.e   sgi2uhplj.e  sgi2uptx.e  sgi2xbm.e
sgi2gif.e  sgi2uapl.e  sgi2uhpgl.e  sgi2uimp.e   sgi2uqms.e  sgidispatch.e

unix/hlib:
allocate.cl   clpackage.men  extern.pkg   mkiraf.sh   util.sh
cllogout.cl   deallocate.cl  extpkg.cl    mkmlist.sh  zzsetenv.def
clpackage.cl  devstatus.cl   gripes.cl    motd
clpackage.hd  diskspace.cl   irafarch.sh  spy.cl
casper@casper-GL553VD:/usr/lib/iraf$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:12 PM

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pepe

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find . | grep iraf

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:12 PM

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./dev/irafhosts
./unix/hlib/irafarch.sh
./unix/hlib/mkiraf.sh
./bin/irafks.e
./pkg/proto/irafil.par
./pkg/proto/suntoiraf.par
./pkg/proto/doc/suntoiraf.hlp
./pkg/proto/doc/irafil.hlp
casper@casper-GL553VD:/usr/lib/iraf$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:13 PM

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really makes you think

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pyraf

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type cl

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there you have your iraf

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:13 PM

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Command 'cl' not found, but can be installed with:

sudo apt install cl-launch

casper@casper-GL553VD:/usr/lib/iraf$

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just instal it?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:13 PM

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type pyraf

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first

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I'm gonna check what's cl-launch

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ok

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pyraf shouldn't work, right?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:14 PM

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well it did something

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:14 PM

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can you screenshot it?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:14 PM

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This package contains tasks for viewing and manipulating 3d images. 
It is a pre-release version, and does not reflect the ultimate 
partitioning of n-dimensional image tasks within IRAF 
  


  NOAO/IRAF Debian 2.16.1+2018.03.10-2 Wed, 14 Mar 2018 09:02:35 +0000

  This product includes results achieved by the IRAF64 project in 2006-
  2009 directed by Chisato Yamauchi (C-SODA/ISAS/JAXA).

  Welcome to IRAF.  To list the available commands, type ? or ??.  To get
  detailed information about a command, type `help <command>'.  To run  a
  command  or  load  a  package,  type  its name.   Type  `bye' to exit a
  package, or `logout' to get out  of the CL.

  Visit http://iraf.net if you have questions.

  The following commands or packages are currently defined:
 
clpackage/:
 clpackage/     images/         noao/           proto/          user/
 dataio/        language/       obsolete/       rvsao/          utilities/
 dbms/          lists/          plot/           system/
PyRAF 2.1.14 Copyright (c) 2002 AURA
Python 3.6.7 Copyright (c) 2001-2018 Python Software Foundation.
Python/CL command line wrapper
  .help describes executive commands
-->

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:15 PM

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ok, i understand it now

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python/cl command line wrapper, see?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:15 PM

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yes

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:15 PM

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So you need to go to iraf's working directory (which I don't think it is where it's installed because you would need sudo/root for that and basically glue it with a terminal

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Do you need iraf specificly or could you use the python wrapper?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:16 PM

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I need iraf

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:16 PM

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ok, don't do this at home

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type sudo su

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and put your password

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:16 PM

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clear the window first because im in pyraf now arent I?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:17 PM

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ah, yeah, you're stuck there

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open a separate terminal, type:

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killall pyraf

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close it

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it should say killed in your previous one

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type reset

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and then type sudo su

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once you have your password (because I don't know if it's still inside that) we're gonna to switch again to iraf's director

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so cd /usr/lib/iraf

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once there you should be able to type

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mkiraf

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:18 PM

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root@casper-GL553VD:/usr/lib/iraf# 
``` it doesnt ask me for my pw

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:18 PM

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maybe it's because it's cached

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you don't need to do the cd part

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type mkiraf directly

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:19 PM

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still not found pepe

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:19 PM

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pepe 🔫

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ok

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do this

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cd /

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find . | grep mkiraf

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It's gonna take a while

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copy the output

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go to dpaste.de

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:19 PM

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bash: cd/: No such file or directory
root@casper-GL553VD:/usr/lib/iraf#

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:19 PM

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look at what I wrote

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:19 PM

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oh did i miss a space?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:20 PM

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yeah

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click on expires in 7 days

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and switch to 1 day

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paste it there and send it to me by a pm, in case there's something the channel doesn't need to read

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:20 PM

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./home/casper/miniconda3/pkgs/iraf-2.16.UR.1-0/iraf/unix/hlib/mkiraf.sh
./home/casper/miniconda3/pkgs/iraf-2.16.UR.1-0/iraf/unix/hlib/mkiraf.csh.in
./home/casper/miniconda3/pkgs/iraf-2.16.UR.1-0/bin/mkiraf
find: ‘./run/user/1000/gvfs’: Permission denied

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:20 PM

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that's normal

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it's that it?

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that was fast

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:21 PM

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oh and ```./usr/lib/iraf/unix/hlib/mkiraf.sh

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:21 PM

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there's your command

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type exit

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sudo -K

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and then

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/usr/lib/iraf/unix/hlib/mkiraf.sh

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no

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wait

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cd /usr/lib/iraf

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and then /usr/lib/iraf/unix/hlib/mkiraf.sh

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if it doesn't work

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./usr/lib/iraf/unix/hlib/mkiraf.sh

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:22 PM

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casper@casper-GL553VD:/usr/lib/iraf$ cd /usr/lib/iraf
casper@casper-GL553VD:/usr/lib/iraf$ /usr/lib/iraf/unix/hlib/mkiraf.sh
/usr/lib/iraf/unix/hlib/mkiraf.sh: line 72: cd: /build/iraf-wlsLkZ/iraf-2.16.1+2018.03.10/: No such file or directory
Error: current directory is not an iraf user login directory
casper@casper-GL553VD:/usr/lib/iraf$ ./usr/lib/iraf/unix/hlib/mkiraf.sh
bash: ./usr/lib/iraf/unix/hlib/mkiraf.sh: No such file or directory
casper@casper-GL553VD:/usr/lib/iraf$ 

``` linux is a struggle

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:22 PM

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"cd: /build/iraf-wlsLkZ/iraf-2.16.1+2018.03.10/: No such file or directory"

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u wut m8

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who the hell packaged this trash

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:23 PM

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idk nuu

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:23 PM

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ok, I'm going to translate you what's the problem

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:23 PM

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english please

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:23 PM

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Yes, in plain english

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In Linux we have some guys called maintainers. Because they're few and between, a lot of packages just break

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Then we have some random people that make programs, others that take this programs and make it in a way that you can install it

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most of the times the maintainers don't look at those "programs that they made a way for you to install"

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so this guy packages the program at /build...bla and it left that line there

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So you cannot install it

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So, the thing is. Yeah, I can fix this basically teaching you to compile the program from scratch and knowing what the program actually does, because I don't have a single idea

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Or you can ask the maintaners, in this case, it seems to be NASA, to fix it

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but this seems to be very old and outdated

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:26 PM

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it is

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be astrophycisist are stuborn and dont wanna use anything else

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so we also have to learn to use it

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:27 PM

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But do they have it installed in their computers?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:27 PM

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but i can't learn to use it if i can't get it to work

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:27 PM

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Ask them how they did it

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:27 PM

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its installed on all computers in our building

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:28 PM

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https://packages.gentoo.org/categories/sci-astronomy

sci-astronomy – Gentoo Packages

Gentoo package category sci-astronomy: The sci-astronomy category contains software that can be used in astronomical and related scientific environments. in the Gentoo Packages Database

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:28 PM

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but I want it on my laptop so I'm not dependend on those computers

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:28 PM

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even gentoo doesn't have it

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let me search for a second

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:28 PM

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we need it to proces imagines from our telescope

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:28 PM

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yeah, but you couldn't even process it if you got installed

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because you need the ds9 thing for the images itself

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do they use ubuntu in your building?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:29 PM

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yes

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they recommended ubuntu for our python course and we need it for iraf

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:30 PM

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that's pyraf

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which you have already working

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you actually have iraf too, it's just not workable with the shell

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try this

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type iraf in a console

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and click tab

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:30 PM

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I got a document that explains how to use it, and I used it on the campus computers

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:31 PM

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and let's see if the problem it's that it's callable with another command

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:31 PM

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iraf: command not found
casper@casper-GL553VD:/usr/lib/iraf$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:31 PM

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no, no

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not enter

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the tab

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:33 PM

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when i press tab i get a cl behind it and when i pressed enter it have me this

📎 unknown.png

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:33 PM

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congrats

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that's your iraf LOL

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Wth that was difficult

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https://screenshots.debian.net/package/iraf

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if you write something like implot dev$pix

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it does some iraf thing

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:34 PM

#

but I need it in an xterm

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:34 PM

#

that's xterm

#

that's a terminal, yes, it is not "xterm"

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but they're all the same

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:34 PM

#

the prof was very strict about it

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we need to open an xterm

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and in that we open iraf

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or however that works

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:35 PM

#

He seems german

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ok

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easy

#

open another terminal

#

type

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:35 PM

#

swedish

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:35 PM

#

sudo apt-get install -y xterm

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once it finishes

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xterm

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and then you do the thing with the tab

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:37 PM

#

he said to use this

📎 unknown.png

#

is it any different?

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 9:38 PM

#

no its just with more parameters

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:38 PM

#

I mean, it's whatever

#

Type it instead

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But be careful to not close the previous window because the & thing is not going to detach it correctly

#

I think they're forcing you to use xterm because some distros don't have other terminals

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:39 PM

#

but i just need to type irafcl in the xterm

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:39 PM

#

yes

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sb and sl it's a stuff related to scrolling

#

well, more likely because that's what they teached him 20 years ago

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:40 PM

#

already found a problem 😩

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 9:40 PM

#

🥁

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:40 PM

#

let me guess, it works like shit inside xterm

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:41 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

this is what he tells me to do

#

but there is that stupid mkiraf command again

#

which still doesnt work

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:42 PM

#

Tell your professor that you tried to do that in the first place, and you couldn't get it to work. So you actually followed the instructions that the debian maintainers provide to the ubuntu one's and you got it to work

#

tell him that those bugs are already fixed

tawny sky Nov 24, 2018, 9:42 PM

#

You really could do with a more eloquent dictionary

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:43 PM

#

yeah, try to be polite

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Not be like me, I'm rude

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:43 PM

#

but the problem is that I now can't get to the login.cl file

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:43 PM

#

he's trying to fix a bug in that program

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:43 PM

#

and I need to change something inside so the program doesnt crash with large files

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:43 PM

#

you can actually do it if you want, but you're gonna probably... Fuck it up, to be short

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:44 PM

#

I did it on the campus computers

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:44 PM

#

I don't think anybody in your class could install that the way your professor wants

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:44 PM

#

but there the mkiraf worked fine

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:44 PM

#

because they installed it like this guy:

#

https://glauffer.github.io/2018-08-03-the-easy-way-to-install-iraf/

The easy way to install IRAF

The IRAF (Image Reduction and Analysis Facility) is a general purpose software system for the reduction and analysis of astronomical data. It can be easily installed via the astroconda channel of the STScI (Space Telescope Science Institute). The only dependencies are the con...

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but without an enviorement

#

and they glued all together

#

That's a very very bad practice

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:45 PM

#

I should tell em

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:45 PM

#

If I were you, I would install a separate ubuntu just for class

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:45 PM

#

I only need ubuntu for this

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:45 PM

#

And then you can do whatever inside there, because it's just for class, and if you suddenly need to replace a system library you don't care

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ah ok

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 9:45 PM

#

(or make a vm) (or a chroot env)

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:46 PM

#

I don't think his professor wants him to do that

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:46 PM

#

I used a vm but it failed to install iraf itself in the first place

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 9:46 PM

#

are you actually supposed to do this on ubuntu

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:46 PM

#

Yes lol

#

Nix, help him uninstall everything, I'm going to go to eat dinner (10 minutes).

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Casper, if you can, make a photo of the whole instruction manual and I will help you follow it step by step

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 9:47 PM

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(ill take a photo too)

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:47 PM

#

@sage solar quite probably he has to install it from sources

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 9:47 PM

#

sounds fun

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:47 PM

#

and this thing is from 2012

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:47 PM

#

oh its much oklder

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older*

#

its 25 years old

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 9:47 PM

#

at least its not old RAID chip drivers from 2002 you can only get as outdated rpms....

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:47 PM

#

but they made some minor changes in 2012

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:47 PM

#

tell him to install build-essential because that's gonna take a while

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 9:48 PM

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usually not

#

anyway could you show us the whole manual of what you are supposed to do?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:50 PM

#

I can send a ss of it but I can't send the file itself

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 9:50 PM

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as long as it contains everything ¯_(ツ)_/¯

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:50 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 9:50 PM

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(and is readable)

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:51 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

📎 unknown.png

#

📎 unknown.png

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:52 PM

#

That implies that iraf is already installed

#

Is your professor going to inspect your laptop?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:52 PM

#

no

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 9:52 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

yes

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:52 PM

#

See?

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 9:53 PM

#

whatever a huygensgebouw is

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:53 PM

#

is our uni building

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:53 PM

#

You already have it installed and configured, but we can revert the image thing to the old setting

#

It's probably going to fail, but we can try

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 9:53 PM

#

i am surprised i typed that correctly enought to give me google results.......

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:53 PM

#

but I also need ds9

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:53 PM

#

Yeah, I know

oak shell Nov 24, 2018, 9:54 PM

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I'd guess "gebouw" is Dutch for "building"

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:54 PM

#

it is

oak shell Nov 24, 2018, 9:54 PM

#

yay

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:54 PM

#

smart man

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 9:54 PM

#

german dutch mutation skills there

oak shell Nov 24, 2018, 9:54 PM

#

nah, just German 😛

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:54 PM

#

nvm then

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:54 PM

#

So

oak shell Nov 24, 2018, 9:54 PM

#

Gebäude

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:54 PM

#

Should we move on?

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 9:55 PM

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after i said that Gebäude sounds better in my head yes

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:55 PM

#

but do I need to be able to change stuff in the login.cl? since iraf works

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:55 PM

#

Stop distracting him, he needs to wörk

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@long vault Its your choice

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I can help you with that, my autistic screeching (sorry, I learn English through memes, I cannot say it in another way, don't be offended I love you all) was because you're gonna edit that with super user permissions

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And that's in short no good

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No wonder how the chinese steals all the info from researchers

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If you're forcing the people you're teaching to use root like it's nothing

#

anyway

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:57 PM

#

like if i get ds9 to work i think ill be set

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:57 PM

#

go to the terminal and type

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pwd

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:57 PM

#

the xterm or the other?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:58 PM

#

Close the xterm first, directly

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 9:58 PM

#

(what is the full name of ds9 so i dont get deep space 9 as google results)

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:58 PM

#

saods9

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https://packages.debian.org/sid/saods9

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The funny thing is that the problem is that it's not on path

#

it's already installed

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:58 PM

#

its the program that actually displays the image

#

its weird

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:59 PM

#

paste the output of pwd

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 9:59 PM

#

when did we find out its installed

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and how

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:59 PM

#

/home/casper
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:59 PM

#

Ok, you seem to have closed the wrong terminal

#

sudo su

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:59 PM

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oh sheit

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 9:59 PM

#

password

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 9:59 PM

#

got it

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:00 PM

#

cd /usr/lib/iraf

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:00 PM

#

how did you install ds9?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:00 PM

#

find . | grep login.cl

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:00 PM

#

[sudo] password for casper: 
root@casper-GL553VD:/home/casper# cd /usr/lib/iraf
root@casper-GL553VD:/usr/lib/iraf#

#

right so fat

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far*?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:00 PM

#

yes

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:00 PM

#

strachi how did you make him install ds9

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:00 PM

#

nix, please let's follow an order, browse -y

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:00 PM

#

./pkg/ecl/login.cl
./pkg/cl/login.cl
root@casper-GL553VD:/usr/lib/iraf#

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:00 PM

#

ok, you want to edit the cl one

#

but

#

if you edit the cl one, like the pdf says, python is gonna to be unaffected

#

but that's really not your problem

#

we can edit both, but that's not what your pdf says

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:01 PM

#

the pdf says to do it with a text editor

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:01 PM

#

you could just download the debian deb from here http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/saods9/saods9_7.6+repack-3_all.deb install it with dpkg -i soads*.deb
and hope that debian is enough compatible to ubuntu for that to work

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yknow

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:01 PM

#

don't do that

#

the nix thing

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:01 PM

#

well he does have unix in his name so its very tempting

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

did you ever used nano, @long vault ?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

i dont even know what it is

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

ok, promise me this is only for university

oak shell Nov 24, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

That should become an ot-name

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

write gedit pkg/cl/login.cl

oak shell Nov 24, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

#ot0-don't-do-the-nix-thing 😛

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

and just hit enter?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

yes

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:03 PM

#

alright it opened

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:03 PM

#

That will expose the whole x11 stack to root, like professionals

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:03 PM

#

its Nix Is uniX please, its a recursive acronym @oak shell

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:03 PM

#

I can now just change it like the pdf says?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:03 PM

#

yes

#

I was searching it

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:03 PM

#

alright lemme do that

oak shell Nov 24, 2018, 10:03 PM

#

I don't have to expand the acronym

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:04 PM

#

that is very mean

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:04 PM

#

alright im done with the file

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:04 PM

#

Ok, do you know how to save it?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:04 PM

#

i pressed save

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:04 PM

#

ok, close it

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:04 PM

#

just like i did on the campus computers

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:04 PM

#

press enter on the terminal

#

type reset

#

exit

#

sudo -K

#

and reset again, that would kill the garbage gnome would have leaved

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:05 PM

#

oke its basicly a new window now

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:05 PM

#

type whereis saods9

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:05 PM

#

saods9: /usr/share/saods9
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:06 PM

#

give me a sec

#

type

#

whereis pikachu

#

and

#

whereis apertium-ita

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:06 PM

#

for real?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:06 PM

#

yes

#

I want to verify what is ubuntu doing

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:07 PM

#

better not be trolling xd

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:07 PM

#

I can explain what I am doing

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:07 PM

#

saods9: /usr/share/saods9
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$ whereis pikachu
pikachu:
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$ whereis apertium-ita
apertium-ita:
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:07 PM

#

usr/share is not a place where you put a binary, it's usually information related, probably apt is refering to that directory to uninstalled packages

#

pikachu is a package that shouldn't exist on the repos

#

and apertium-ita exists on the repos

#

so it's really in share lol

#

ok

#

cd /usr/share/saods9

#

ls -lsha *

#

and

#

ls -lsha */*

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:08 PM

#

for the first one i get a lot of stuff back

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:09 PM

#

ok, let's do one thing

#

sudo apt-get install -y wgetpaste

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:09 PM

#

[sudo] password for casper: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package wgetpaste
casper@casper-GL553VD:/usr/share/saods9$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:10 PM

#

one sec

#

ls -lsha * | curl -F "sprunge=<-" http://sprunge.us

#

that will return a link with the output

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:11 PM

#

i need to install curl first

#

1 sec

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:11 PM

#

sudo apt-get install -y curl

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:12 PM

#

whats the -y?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:12 PM

#

forces to say yes

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:12 PM

#

ah

#

sounds usefull

#

curl: (6) Could not resolve host: sprunge.us+
casper@casper-GL553VD:/usr/share/saods9$ ```

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after I installed curl

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:12 PM

#

without the +

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:13 PM

#

oh

#

http://sprunge.us/nF3tnj

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:13 PM

#

god, why do people do this

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:13 PM

#

nuu

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:13 PM

#

you're ok casper-san

#

"All versions and platforms support a consistent set of GUI and functional capabilities. "

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:14 PM

#

(ill have an ubuntu 18.04.1 ISO downloaded in under a minute an will try to set things up myself)

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:14 PM

#

🤔 🔫

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:14 PM

#

I swear this is way more difficult than the actual physics

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:14 PM

#

it's only because it's your first time

#

I've doing this since I was 8

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:15 PM

#

I was still eating sand back then

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:15 PM

#

Don't get me wrong, I spent half my infancy, maybe more making fortress at the beach

#

Let me reboot to Mac, I don't have a terminal here

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:16 PM

#

aight

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:16 PM

#

woah

#

drum roll on installation start of ubuntu

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:16 PM

#

what's that?

#

-bash: unzip: command not found. Come on lol

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:16 PM

#

its ofc not installed per default

#

you wont find many zips in hte unix world

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:17 PM

#

wth, how are they compressing .debs in the $currentyear?

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:18 PM

#

i know that rpms are using lots of fancy cpio and gzip stuff

#

although there is currently a proposal for changing that so who knows.....

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:18 PM

#

n:~/borrar# ls *
bin  share

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@long vault whereis ds9

#

~/borrar/usr/bin# cat ds9
#!/bin/sh
exec wish -f ${DS9_HOME-/usr/share/saods9}/library/ds9.tcl $*

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Can you believe this @sage solar ? And they don't even bother to link it with the package's name

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:19 PM

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:19 PM

#

remember that he's supposed to execute this on xterm

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:19 PM

#

people are weird

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:19 PM

#

you want me to type whereis ds9?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:19 PM

#

yes

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:19 PM

#

ubuntu ins(ane)tallation is runnning

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:20 PM

#

in a normal ter?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:20 PM

#

yes

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:20 PM

#

it doesnt matter does it?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:20 PM

#

idk

#

ds9: /usr/bin/ds9 /usr/share/man/man1/ds9.1.gz
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:20 PM

#

ok

#

let's simplify this for our sanity

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:21 PM

#

I don't have any sanity left

#

I started the weekend with the idea that this would go easy

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:21 PM

#

i am quite sure that this is in fact easy

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:21 PM

#

everytime your manual says saods9 you're gonna type ds9. I know, I know, you can make aliases, and links, but let's see first how many students actually install that before we do this two days from now

#

So, this is what you need to do

#

close everything that has a terminal name on it

#

open a new terminal

#

write xterm and the other stuff your prof wants

#

type ds9

#

go to the previous terminal

#

click a new tab

#

write xterm and the other fancy stuff

#

and then open iraf

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:22 PM

#

ds9 is the xterm right?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:23 PM

#

and that should be like your professor wants it

#

yes

gritty stirrup Nov 24, 2018, 10:23 PM

#

Why use zip

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:23 PM

#

ds9: /usr/bin/ds9 /usr/share/man/man1/ds9.1.gz
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

gritty stirrup Nov 24, 2018, 10:23 PM

#

just use tar

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:23 PM

#

sshit

#

it didbnt copy

#

lemme s

#

s

#

ss

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:23 PM

#

@gritty stirrup deb files are not tar

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:23 PM

#

ok ubuntu installation is done

#

ill try this now

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:23 PM

#

we've already finished

#

in theory

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:23 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

this is what the xterm window does

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:24 PM

#

can't find package xml

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:24 PM

#

I can't find it either

#

its not on my desk

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:24 PM

#

no, i'm just repeating it to myself

#

ok, type this in a new one

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:24 PM

#

new xterm or normal?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:24 PM

#

cat /usr/share/saods9/library/ds9.tcl | curl -F "sprunge=<-" http://sprunge.us

#

normal

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:25 PM

#

http://sprunge.us/Q89nQI

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:25 PM

#


switch $ds9(wm) {
    x11 {
    # set to absolute path so that if -cd command is used,
    # so we can still find our files
    set ds9(root) [file normalize [file join [file dirname [info script]] ..]]
    set ds9(doc) "/usr/share/doc/saods9-doc"

    package require msgcat
    package require http
    source $ds9(root)/library/htp.tcl
    package require xml

    package require base64
    package require log
    package require ftp
    package require textutil::repeat
    package require textutil::tabify
    package require math::fuzzy

    package require tkcon
    package require tkblt
    package require tksao
    package require tkhtml1
    package require tcliis
    package require tclcheckdns
    package require tkmpeg
    package require Tktable
    package require tclxpa
    package require Signal

    package require img::base
    package require img::jpeg
    package require img::tiff
    package require img::png
    package require img::gif
    package require img::ppm
    package require img::bmp
    package require img::xbm
    package require img::window

#

TCL is a file extension for a script written in TCL. TCL (also pronounced tickle) stands for Tool Command Language. TCL files are text files containing TCL scripts. TCL is a dynamic open source language used for building web and desktop applications. Whether on Windows, Mac OS X, or Linux operating systems, TCL files can be opened and edited by WISH and TCLSH.

#

Welcome to 1980

#

sorry, welcome to 1997

#

this is why your professor wants to be sure to use xterm

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:27 PM

#

god ubuntu performs so shitty......

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:27 PM

#

install gont00

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:27 PM

#

yes but he is on ubuntu

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:28 PM

#

type install gont00 in the terminqal?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:28 PM

#

@long vault apt-cache search tcl | grep xml

#

@long vault I wish, no, no. that was for nix

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:28 PM

#

oh

#

apt-cache search tcl | grep xml in the terminal i suppose

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:28 PM

#


    Gnome libxml2 library. This package is known as TclXML/libxml2.

    A generic Tcl implementation (which does not require compilation). This package is known as TclXML/tcl.

#

@sage solar

#

@long vault yes

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:29 PM

#

tcl-xmlrpc - XML-RPC implementation for Tcl
tclxml - Tcl library for XML parsing
tclxml-dev - Tcl library for XML parsing - development files
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:29 PM

#

libxml is pretty common

#

isnt it?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:29 PM

#

sudo apt-get install tclxml tcl-xmlrpc tclxml-dev

#

apt-cache search libxml

#

@sage solar No, no, they took the library and they ship it separatly

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:30 PM

#

k both done

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:30 PM

#

that's why I'm also installing the dev package and then the xml library separetly

#

@long vault apt-cache doesn't give an output?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:30 PM

#

a really long one

#

too long for discord

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:30 PM

#

sudo apt-get install libxml libxml2

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:31 PM

#

this ui is so fucking unresponsive

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this was a huge mistake

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:31 PM

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And with that, I'm going to take my dinner

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give me a few minutes

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In theory once you do that

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you go to the xterm

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type ds9

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and it should work or cry again

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:31 PM

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"in theory"

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:31 PM

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depending on the things I posted before

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the long paste

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@long vault I hope you discover what oumuamua is with this

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:32 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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is it me or can things never go right the first time with computers

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:33 PM

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Whereis tclxml

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Without the capital letter

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:34 PM

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tclxml: /usr/include/tclxml /usr/share/man/man3/tclxml.3tcl.gz
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:35 PM

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Oh, OK, it actually worked

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:35 PM

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idk if it did

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:35 PM

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Its just complaining that it isn't 1993 anymore

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:36 PM

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a lot of people wanna go back to the 90's

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:37 PM

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this

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no

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no

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the makefile is made for slackware

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smh

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:37 PM

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can't say i know what that means

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:37 PM

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very old linux

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i dont think this is supposed to work on ubuntu at all

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:38 PM

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well it works on ubunty

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ubuntu

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just not on mine

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:47 PM

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@long vault I'm back

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Can I ask you what languages do you know? So I can make this more quicker

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:48 PM

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ok so i got iraf running ish

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and the server rules say english only

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:48 PM

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@sage solar The problem is the other thing

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@sage solar Also in the voice channels?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:48 PM

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you mean programming languages?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:48 PM

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no, like old-fashioned languages

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:48 PM

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dutch and english

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:48 PM

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ouh ;_;

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:48 PM

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sorry to dissapoint you

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:48 PM

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You're ok Casper

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hmmm

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:49 PM

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I got other qualities

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:49 PM

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so we need wm

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but what the hell is wm in this context

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:49 PM

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what is a wm in general?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:49 PM

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windows manager

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gnome, kde, etc

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:50 PM

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ds9 is the problem?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:50 PM

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yeah

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:50 PM

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ds9 works 👌 for me

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:50 PM

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ds9 is actually a 1993 script

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:50 PM

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like

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:50 PM

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nani

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:50 PM

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out of the box

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perfectly

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:50 PM

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with apt-get blah and ds9?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:50 PM

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can we trade computers?

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you get mine

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i get yours

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:50 PM

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its a vm

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:50 PM

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yes, you can

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:50 PM

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its not a real computer

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:51 PM

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It's a solution

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@sage solar I mean

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Pack the whole system and I will extract it and correct the routes

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LOL

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:51 PM

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I couldnt even get iraf to install on my vm

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:51 PM

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Nah, don't do that

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:51 PM

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I got ubuntu now, i cant go back

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:51 PM

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@tawny sky I know the answer is no

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:51 PM

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wget http://ds9.si.edu/archive/linux64/ds9.linux64.7.2.tar.gz
sudo mv ds9 /usr/local/bin/.

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:51 PM

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But can I ssh in to his machine?

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:51 PM

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ezpez

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:51 PM

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We have been here for ages

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@sage solar You're not supposed to break the system like that

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But let's do it

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:52 PM

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we breaking stuff?

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:52 PM

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the system is only for the project anyway

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fuck not breaking it

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:52 PM

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@long vault apt-get --purge remove saods9 -y

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@long vault wget http://ds9.si.edu/archive/linux64/ds9.linux64.7.2.tar.gz
sudo mv ds9 /usr/local/bin/.

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:52 PM

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we are doing stuff which linux might not like

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when doing further stuff

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:52 PM

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E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend - open (13: Permission denied)
E: Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), are you root?
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$ 
``` this was on the first one

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:52 PM

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yes, sorry

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:53 PM

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straaachiiii

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:53 PM

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put a sudo before all that

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:53 PM

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fun fact for me iraf is not working

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:53 PM

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because I hacked the hell out of that thing

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:53 PM

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oke that first one worked

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:53 PM

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well i just have to add myself to the iraf group

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and then ittl work

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:53 PM

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now just enter the 2nd part?

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:53 PM

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so have fun hacking

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:54 PM

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@long vault yes

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:54 PM

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telling me not to break the system

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:54 PM

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wget http://ds9.si.edu/archive/linux64/ds9.linux64.7.2.tar.gz sudo mv ds9 /usr/local/bin/. like this?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:54 PM

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no

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line by line

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wget blah

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sudo blah

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:54 PM

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(or put && between the two)

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:54 PM

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don't put && between a sudo or I will go to germany and find nix

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 10:54 PM

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unlikely

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:55 PM

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I will activate the Xcom project

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:55 PM

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mv: cannot stat 'ds9': No such file or directory
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$ ``` got this on the 2nd one

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:55 PM

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yeah, nix forgot to decompress it

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don't worry, I have you cover it

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rm ds9*

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:55 PM

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k and then try it again?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:56 PM

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no

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wait

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:56 PM

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i did rm ds9*

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:56 PM

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yeah, that's good

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wget http://ds9.si.edu/archive/linux64/ds9.linux64.7.2.tar.gz

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tar xvfp ds9*

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:57 PM

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ds9
casper@casper-GL553VD:~$

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:57 PM

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rm ds9*gz

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sudo mv ds9 /usr/bin/

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:57 PM

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k did all that

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:57 PM

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ds9

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:58 PM

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in a xterm?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:58 PM

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for example

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:58 PM

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or just the normal?

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:58 PM

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doesn't really matter

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your prof asks you to do it on xterm

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:58 PM

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oh boi

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:58 PM

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but we're testing

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yeah, casper, here's the thing

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you don't have any idea what that program is doing

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it's a blob

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 10:58 PM

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📎 unknown.png

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 10:58 PM

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So don't use that in a profesional enviorement

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now in the other xterm execute iraf

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[ ] ds9.linux64.7.2.tar.gz 16-Apr-2013 11:33 12M
[ ] ds9.linux64.7.3.1.tar.gz 06-Oct-2014 17:22 11M
[ ] ds9.linux64.7.3.2.tar.gz 07-Oct-2014 15:06 11M
[ ] ds9.linux64.7.3.tar.gz 30-Sep-2014 17:44 11M
[ ] ds9.linux64.7.4.tar.gz 17-Dec-2015 13:59 12M

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@sage solar Why are we executing an old version?

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lemoneye1

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 11:00 PM

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because i found soembody saying it works and dont want to mess with it if it works rn

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 11:00 PM

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pepe

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wait, and why is this archived

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. Note: version 8.0rc6 is now available here

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brainmon

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you should be using the rc

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but whatever

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@long vault are you still alive?

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 11:01 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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woah

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 11:01 PM

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I hope you didn't got eated by that blackhole

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 11:02 PM

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cmon man thats not a blackhole

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 11:02 PM

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so does it work now

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can i end my struggle

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 11:02 PM

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iraf and ds9 both worked

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 11:02 PM

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Great, I would send you my nigerian bank account in private

sage solar Nov 24, 2018, 11:02 PM

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so i dont have to mess with mkiraf user not in iraf group anymore

long vault Nov 24, 2018, 11:02 PM

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I wouldnt be suprised if i run into new errors later

chrome stag Nov 24, 2018, 11:02 PM

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I accept payments in a whole variety of crypto coins