#tools-and-devops | Python | Page 50

true vapor Jul 28, 2020, 12:46 PM

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If you're just starting out, Thonny or Mu is pretty good. If you're comfortable writing other languages, Pycharm is a very good IDE to jump into

grizzled tapir Jul 28, 2020, 12:49 PM

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okaayy

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is pycharm free?

true vapor Jul 28, 2020, 12:49 PM

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yes, there's a pycharm-community edition

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!resources has links to this stuff I think

rancid schoonerBOT Jul 28, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Resources

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grizzled tapir Jul 28, 2020, 12:49 PM

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okaayy thank you m8

covert kindle Jul 28, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Keep in mind that pycharm, like all editors, has a learning curve. Pycharm however will have a lot of features that you don't need yet, more than most. They're just going to make it harder to use/learn.

Something simpler like atom or vscode might be a better fit.

rough marlin Jul 28, 2020, 2:49 PM

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how do WSL1, WSL2, docker for desktop, and just plain old vagrant stack up against each other for webdev on Win10?

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I'm stuck on Win10 for the foreseeable near future and I'm trying to figure out how to make the best of it

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also I have to use a slow HDD instead of an SSD, so I'm a bit worried that vagrant / VMs might be painfully slow

lone linden Jul 28, 2020, 2:51 PM

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there's little reason not to use ~~docker~~ containers

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Vagrant takes a while to boot up, it's convineient and such but docker is the future

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basically a lightweight vm/rich process, with very little overhead

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a rich caching mechanism, and preety intuitive declarative syntax

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i recommend giving docker a look

tawdry needle Jul 28, 2020, 2:56 PM

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ngl i just use cmd

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dockerfile is for deployment imo

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i dont want to have to rebuild a container every time i add a dependency

lone linden Jul 28, 2020, 2:57 PM

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you don't have to if you cache it right

tawdry needle Jul 28, 2020, 2:57 PM

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how does that work

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if you have an example id be interested. for environment isolation i use conda mostly, but i'm also a data scientist so that makes sense for my uses

rough marlin Jul 28, 2020, 2:57 PM

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@lone linden i wasn't asking about vagrant for packaging apps, I mean as a docker host. Sorry, I was vague.

tawdry needle Jul 28, 2020, 2:58 PM

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and when im doing web dev i mostly am on linux so there i'd use nvm to switch node versions. idk if there's a windows port/version of nvm

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i do web stuff very rarely anyway

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tbh id rather use docker than conda. solves a lot of problems and avoids a lot of complexity

heavy knot Jul 28, 2020, 2:59 PM

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does anyone here have experience with tensorflo

rough marlin Jul 28, 2020, 2:59 PM

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I think with containers you can define a tower of image layers for groups of dependencies, if i remember right

tawdry needle Jul 28, 2020, 2:59 PM

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just ask your question @heavy knot , don't "ask to ask"

heavy knot Jul 28, 2020, 2:59 PM

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i was but i accidentally pressed enter

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i was editing my message :P

tawdry needle Jul 28, 2020, 2:59 PM

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ah ok 😄

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lots of people just drop in with "hey can someone help with X"

heavy knot Jul 28, 2020, 3:00 PM

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does anyone here have experience with tensorflow? I'm trying to train my own ai with my own images and datasets but every guide out there tells me to use their own datasets

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for flowers and cars and stuff

tawdry needle Jul 28, 2020, 3:00 PM

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ask again in #data-science-and-ml 🙂

heavy knot Jul 28, 2020, 3:00 PM

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thank you

lone linden Jul 28, 2020, 3:03 PM

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i'll try to find a decent example later, should stop discording while at work 😄

tawdry needle Jul 28, 2020, 3:04 PM

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same lol

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that said this is pretty relevant to my work at the moment

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im involved in a big project overhauling my team's workflows

lone linden Jul 28, 2020, 3:06 PM

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fine tuning docker setups definitely makes a huge difference

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fit for a position of it's own

floral shale Jul 28, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Since we're using Dask at the core of our compute we build off the daskdev/dask Docker images which make it very easy to manage dependencies and supports an environment.yml file. Only downside is the dependencies are installed after start up. Been looking into a shared volume to store downloaded packages.

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But we also have a local pip/conda repository installation on our network so at least the downloads are quick.

lone linden Jul 28, 2020, 3:08 PM

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i forgot 95% of the things at my local devops course

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but i still learned more then half the other courses

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GWmemetownOMEGALUL

tawdry needle Jul 28, 2020, 3:09 PM

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yeah @floral shale thats kind of my question. what happens if i want to add something as trivial as tqdm to my docker image?

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do i now have to rebuild the whole thing?

floral shale Jul 28, 2020, 3:09 PM

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@tawdry needle depends. If you're currently still testing/developing and it's just you and the container? No. You can manually put it in there.

lone linden Jul 28, 2020, 3:10 PM

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afaik, if you built your image right, no

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all the other dependencies are cached, the new one is downloaded

tawdry needle Jul 28, 2020, 3:10 PM

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isnt building a container itself often kind of slow

lone linden Jul 28, 2020, 3:10 PM

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with the cache, no

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without the cache, yea

floral shale Jul 28, 2020, 3:10 PM

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The initial image layer downloads can be a bit depending on your internet speed.

lone linden Jul 28, 2020, 3:11 PM

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^, bandwith is the factor afaik

tawdry needle Jul 28, 2020, 3:11 PM

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hm. i'll have to experiment with this

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as i mentioned, conda has a lot of associated annoyances

bitter vine Jul 28, 2020, 3:13 PM

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can someone explain why do we use docker? it seems like a virtual environment does the same thing as docker..

floral shale Jul 28, 2020, 3:14 PM

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@bitter vine much, much lighter than a virtual environment

bitter vine Jul 28, 2020, 3:14 PM

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@floral shale so you dont need a venv to upload your project to docker?

lone linden Jul 28, 2020, 3:15 PM

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wouldn't agree that it's lighter, it's basically a light VM, without the operating system

floral shale Jul 28, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Those things are not intrinsically related

lone linden Jul 28, 2020, 3:15 PM

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but i'll butt out, I NEED TO WORK

floral shale Jul 28, 2020, 3:15 PM

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@lone linden it leverages your kernels native system calls instead of mocking the entirety out.

lone linden Jul 28, 2020, 3:16 PM

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on linux, yes ;P

bitter vine Jul 28, 2020, 3:16 PM

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so docker pretty much bundles up all your project for all OS.. is that right?

floral shale Jul 28, 2020, 3:16 PM

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Correct. On Windows it runs a virtual machine to accomplish the same thing which is not lighter.

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@bitter vine that's pretty much it, yeah.

bitter vine Jul 28, 2020, 3:16 PM

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ahh okay, thank you

floral shale Jul 28, 2020, 3:17 PM

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No problem. Happy to help.

wooden ibex Jul 28, 2020, 3:23 PM

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no

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docker images can be for Windows or Linux

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https://hub.docker.com/r/winamd64/python/

lone linden Jul 28, 2020, 3:25 PM

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noone said they can't

wooden ibex Jul 28, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Windows Containers don't require HyperV

floral shale Jul 28, 2020, 3:27 PM

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I think they're referring to @bitter vine's portion of "for all OS" -- I misread that bit.

wooden ibex Jul 28, 2020, 3:29 PM

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I'm just saying, Windows containers exist, on Windows, it doesn't run VM unless you go with Linux containers which obviously then require a VM

floral shale Jul 28, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Ah, gotcha. Last I heard that's how it was accomplishing it but I am much more Linux involved than Windows.

wooden ibex Jul 28, 2020, 3:31 PM

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I run like 2 Windows Containers, and about 40 Linux ones

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but Azure (and possibly others) now support Windows nodes under Kubernetes control

ivory barn Jul 28, 2020, 4:06 PM

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Guys, would anyone please recommend a place to host cheaply or for free a twitter Python bot made with Tweepy please? 🙂

rough marlin Jul 28, 2020, 4:07 PM

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i have no idea what tweepy is

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but

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have you used AWS or Azure before?

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@ivory barn

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they have free tiers that let you run a single tiny vps free for a year, i think

ivory barn Jul 28, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Primarily Heroku, the whole point needs to run 24/7. 🙂

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is for it to run 24/7*

rough marlin Jul 28, 2020, 4:08 PM

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i wouldn't trust it to handle real heavy load, but a VPS should do it

ivory barn Jul 28, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Thanks for the quick response @rough marlin, also would you reccomend some library for making a Twitter bot? Because Tweepy is exactly that and might be a little dated.

rough marlin Jul 28, 2020, 4:10 PM

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i have no idea. i had heard that twitter was trying to be as hostile to developers as possible

ivory barn Jul 28, 2020, 4:10 PM

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That is very curiosu since they have an API. 😄

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@rough marlin

rough marlin Jul 28, 2020, 4:11 PM

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yes they have one, but they kept chopping off features and restricting stuff

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or at least that's what i heard

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i don't bother with their api though so

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i may have heard wrong.

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anyway

ivory barn Jul 28, 2020, 4:14 PM

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That is completely reasonable and understandable from the company's perspective and we are developers. Last time I checked we thrive on limited circumstances. 😄

rough marlin Jul 28, 2020, 4:14 PM

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a VPS is probably what you need

ivory barn Jul 28, 2020, 4:14 PM

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What are you into (development-wise) @rough marlin

rough marlin Jul 28, 2020, 4:14 PM

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uhhhhh

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thats a complicated question

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the stuff that interests me isn't stuff that makes money

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emulators, esoteric and absurd language stuff are sort of interesting to me lately

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i've worked on automation and scraping a bit in the past

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scraping in the much more distant past

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all of that was boring internal projects

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its not a very rare issue to have the stuff you're interested in be very different from the stuff that pays bills

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lately i'm considering getting ready to run away from the GUI forever and live in the terminal. That's sort of preparation for eventually doing more with forths, lisps, and strange, minimal languages that fit into tiny spaces.

ivory barn Jul 28, 2020, 4:19 PM

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I love this community and the fact that there are people like you in it. That is very interesting @rough marlin and since you find esoteric programming interesting, you may find Quine (programs that output their own source code) computing interesting. 🙂

rough marlin Jul 28, 2020, 4:27 PM

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to bring this channel back on topic, powershell is weirdly responsive on windows

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i don't understand how it has zero input lag or lag of any kind while the rest of win10 feels like cold tar

zinc thicket Jul 28, 2020, 4:30 PM

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oh yeah, is powershell just an advanced version of command prompt?

floral shale Jul 28, 2020, 4:30 PM

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I don't believe so. I believe it borrows from the notion of Linux where values can be "piped" between processes, unlike Command Prompt

zinc thicket Jul 28, 2020, 4:31 PM

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that sounds really advanced to be honest

rough marlin Jul 28, 2020, 4:32 PM

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it's both a different language with new features, and what seems to be a new rendering stack for console

tawdry needle Jul 28, 2020, 5:06 PM

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let's say i have

big-dir/
  git-repo1/
  git-repo2/

what's the sanest way to turn big-dir into a git repo, and set git-repo1 an git-repo2 as submodules thereof?

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seems like the answer is to git git init big-dir then git submodule add each of the git-repo*s from their remote URLs

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not sure what happens if the git-repo1 directory already exists though ...

sand thistle Jul 28, 2020, 5:29 PM

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so not sure

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im setting up a server on nginx

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umm my question is regarding http and https

tawdry needle Jul 28, 2020, 5:39 PM

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setting up nginx is a bit complicated

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searching the docs requires some basic knowledge of how everything works

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can you explain how you want to set it up?

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then maybe we can help

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it's also complicated because nginx configuration is sometimes different on different OSes

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all of my nginx experience is on debian for example

main tusk Jul 28, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Can I get an opinion on what is best practice in a following scenario:

Every version I release can be toggled (enabled/disabled) which allows users to be able to upgrade to that version or not

Released version 1 - enabled
Released version 2 - disabled due to major bug found
Released version 3- enabled

Now when user upgrades from version 1 to version 3, they only see release note of version 3. Should version 2 release notes also be included in version 3 release notes?

tawdry needle Jul 28, 2020, 5:42 PM

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good question. maybe just link to the ver 2 release notes

main tusk Jul 28, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Ok that's not a bad idea. Just subtly hint there was a version I skipped.

tawdry needle Jul 28, 2020, 5:52 PM

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yeah

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or loudly, depending on how much your customers care

wooden ibex Jul 28, 2020, 5:54 PM

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Powershell is object oriented scripting language

tawdry needle Jul 28, 2020, 6:05 PM

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yes it is

sand thistle Jul 28, 2020, 7:59 PM

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@tawdry needle i figured it out, I got caught up in something else and couldn't finish my question

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but i got it working

eager cedar Jul 28, 2020, 11:52 PM

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kubeadm, kops or kubespray for someone new to kubernetes for a small kubernetes cluster on 8 machines (playground)?

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oh kops is only an AWS thing, then that's out of the picture

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i'll just go with kubeadm

gusty willow Jul 29, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Kubeadm generally, but for real production stuff, try Cluster API

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I tend to use a combo of terraform and ansible, but ClusterAPI will be taking it's place in my toolbox as soon as I get around to automating it with a terraform provider

sand thistle Jul 29, 2020, 2:38 PM

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so i have a flask app that i built on my computer

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and i am following this guide https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-serve-flask-applications-with-gunicorn-and-nginx-on-ubuntu-18-04

DigitalOcean

How To Serve Flask Applications with Gunicorn and Nginx on Ubuntu |...

In this guide, you will build a Python application using the Flask microframework on Ubuntu 18.04. The bulk of this article will be about how to set up the Gunicorn application server and how to launch the application and configure Nginx to act as a f

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im just curious, since I already have a venv on my local machine, id still have to make one on the server im sure

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would I create a requirements file and port it over to the server?

wooden ibex Jul 29, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Requirements file should be in git repo

sand thistle Jul 29, 2020, 3:16 PM

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yes that is an option

wooden ibex Jul 29, 2020, 3:20 PM

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option? not really

sand thistle Jul 29, 2020, 3:23 PM

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lets argue!

lone linden Jul 29, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Of course it should be in vcs

zinc thicket Jul 29, 2020, 3:51 PM

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Hi, I've finally started to learn how to use git a couple of hours ago, and I'd be really grateful if anyone could answer these questions:

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When you create a branch, does git automatically create a new copy of your code?

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Also, is it possible to merge the master copy into a branch, and if yes, is there a way to undo it?

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Thanks in advance!

heavy knot Jul 29, 2020, 4:22 PM

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Anyone here uses Spyder IDE? Specifically Spyder3?

tawdry needle Jul 29, 2020, 4:23 PM

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i havent used it in a while. still waiting for jupyter kernel support...

calm tapir Jul 29, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I'm trying to work in the "dev" branch of a repo I wish to make a pull request on. However, when I do "git check dev" it seems to create a new dev branch completely.

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river sinew Jul 29, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Can anyone help with vscode? All my conda envs disappeared

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calm tapir Jul 29, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Even though this one already exists:

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river sinew Jul 29, 2020, 4:51 PM

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@calm tapir do git checkout origin/dev

calm tapir Jul 29, 2020, 4:53 PM

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@river sinew Ah thank you!!

calm tapir Jul 29, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Another stupid Git question. If I make changes and commits to a local branch called "fix-issue51" and I want to create a pull request to merge into the dev branch, can I simply do "git push origin dev" or do I do "git push origin fix-issue51" and then adjust the branch I want to merge it into on GitHub.com when making the PR?

river sinew Jul 29, 2020, 6:15 PM

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just do git push and make the pr on github

rugged spoke Jul 29, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Trying to learn some software architecture and was wondering if this is a viable path for a python API service.

My other confusion is the static content. I have a react app which I will most likely host on S3, so does that mean I still need Nginx if it's only being used to point to a machine with docker swarm manager? I was thinking I needed to load balance this as well which is why I was thinking of nginx

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wooden ibex Jul 29, 2020, 7:53 PM

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bleek, what's with all compute engines?

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and docker swarm?

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No, this is bad design, if you are going to containerize everything, use Kubernetes

lone linden Jul 29, 2020, 7:54 PM

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upvotes

wooden ibex Jul 29, 2020, 7:54 PM

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If your design starts with EC2/Azure VMs/GCP Compute Engine, you might be making mistake

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even then, why not use GCP Functions instead of Flask Microservices

rugged spoke Jul 29, 2020, 8:45 PM

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hi @wooden ibex , sorry it was confusing that i said S3, i meant GCP bucket. From my initial understanding of docker swarm, it needs 3 nodes minimum

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1 for the mananger and 2 for balancing

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Could you elaborate on the mistake part? Should these be in a single vm?

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or avoiding VMs all together and use the managed service they provide?

wooden ibex Jul 29, 2020, 8:51 PM

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@rugged spoke Could you elaborate on the mistake part? Should these be in a single vm? You should never start any design with VM. That's most expensive way to run anything in the cloud in both compute costs and management costs.
avoiding VMs all together and use the managed service they provide? Absolutely, there already a "docker swarm" system available, it's called Kubernetes. That being said, why docker? GCP/AWS/Azure provide this service called Cloud Functions/Lambdas/Azure Functions where you expose REST endpoints. There is no reason you need Flask involved at all. Bonus, you only pay for execution so they can be crazy cheap. We use Azure Functions all the time with AngularJS SPAs

rugged spoke Jul 29, 2020, 8:58 PM

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@wooden ibex
why docker
i'm already using docker on local development and it was easy to integrate with the CI/CD system i have. push to registry -> pull on server. It also allows me to keep dependencies separate for each of my services (but maybe serverless could do this?)

why flask
its a full on webservice with multiple modules within it. I never played with cloud functions but it sounds like I would need to decompose the application into many serverless APIs

k8s
I suppose I avoided k8 as I keep reading it adds complexity where I don't need it unless I'm Google Scale

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Wouldn't k8 be just as expensive since it would involve spinning up VMs for nodes? I just feel like im missing something. Any resource you can point to that I could read more on this? I feel like i'm overcomplicating things

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I'm currently avoiding all of this and have a single VM with docker-compose to run my app

wooden ibex Jul 29, 2020, 9:17 PM

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kubernetes handles failover and bunch of other things

floral shale Jul 29, 2020, 10:24 PM

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What does k8s failover do beyond docker swarm?

heavy knot Jul 29, 2020, 10:35 PM

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how do i select light mode for pycharm

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anybody

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SOMEBODY

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PLS

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i got it nvm

pulsar nest Jul 29, 2020, 10:43 PM

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lightmode is trash

gusty willow Jul 29, 2020, 11:44 PM

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To each their own @pulsar nest, I generally use a lighter theme myself

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What does k8s failover do beyond docker swarm?
@floral shale what part are you talking about? Application high availability? Cluster high availability? Lots of thing in k8s could be labeled as a fail over mechanism lol

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There is also blue green / rolling deployments, load balancer, etc...

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Wouldn't k8 be just as expensive since it would involve spinning up VMs for nodes? I just feel like im missing something. Any resource you can point to that I could read more on this? I feel like i'm overcomplicating things
@rugged spoke this depends a lot on how you run the cluster. EKS for instance can run with fargate containers now I think as well as a VM backed cluster

wooden ibex Jul 30, 2020, 12:05 AM

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k8s is generally managed

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which means underlying VMs are managed for you

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Guess that depends on the organization. Most I've worked for had clusters that preexisted managed offerings on their platform of choice.

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That is starting to dwindle though

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And I'm still not sure if AWS govcloud has EKS or not yet

frozen anchor Jul 30, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Is there any relevant corp out there that uses an alternative to git? Had a talk with a recruiter that hadnt heard about alternatives like SVN, Mercurial,...

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just curious

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Mozilla still uses mg I think

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But they are a dying breed

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I haven't seen subversion in a long time

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But I'm sure they still exist out there

frozen anchor Jul 30, 2020, 12:17 AM

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you mean mozilla is the dying breed or alternatives? Guess 2nd, just want to make sure

river sinew Jul 30, 2020, 12:17 AM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/463035462760792066/738076231773192192 someone pls help

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This only happened after updating to 1.47.3 I think

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 12:18 AM

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Yeah second, Mozilla isn't going anywhere lol

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Sorry @river sinew , I don't use conda

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Reboot? Lol

river sinew Jul 30, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Tried that already

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Also tried reinstalling vscode python extention

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Next is anaconda if no one has a better idea

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Not that I can think of

floral shale Jul 30, 2020, 12:42 AM

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@gusty willow I've just never needed anything other than Docker Swarm and sometimes Nomad I guess.

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 12:53 AM

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@floral shale when you really really need to have distributed applications available, k8s is the way to do it. Swarm is ok, but even docker says to use k8s lol

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As it turns out, writing a container orchistrator is hard lol

floral shale Jul 30, 2020, 1:07 AM

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I've just never had a problem with availability.

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 1:21 AM

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I'm not saying swarm is bad. But when you get to the hundreds or (hundreds of) thousands of containers, swarm breaks down

wooden ibex Jul 30, 2020, 1:52 AM

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at my corp, we have a few SVN holdouts

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but yea, git is by far the most popular

floral shale Jul 30, 2020, 1:54 AM

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We've a damn Clearcase install for a legacy system. A seated, kernel module VCS. 😭

rugged spoke Jul 30, 2020, 3:42 AM

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@floral shale nice to hear someone out there is still using swarm. I have a small project and k8 seemed intense for what I was wanting to do

shy tendon Jul 30, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Great knowledge people! Can someone explain to be what PATH is?

Specifically for a program like Visual Studios? 🙏 Please and many thank yous!

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half sentinel Jul 30, 2020, 4:17 AM

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PATH is a list of directories that will be checked when you run a program unqualified

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so for example if your PATH was "/home/foo/bin:/usr/bin" and you tried to run banana it would look for /usr/bin/banana then /home/foo/bin/banana then tell you can't find banana

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works similarly on windows, though the paths will look different

shy tendon Jul 30, 2020, 4:19 AM

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I see I see, so Mister Gary would PATH be necessary no matter what then?

half sentinel Jul 30, 2020, 4:20 AM

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no, you can run your command by specifying an absolute or relative path

shy tendon Jul 30, 2020, 4:20 AM

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I apologize, It's a confusing question because I'm not educated on stuff associated with this

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oh

half sentinel Jul 30, 2020, 4:20 AM

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in my example if i was in the /home/foo directory i could run bin/banana

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that's a relative path

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or i could run /home/foo/bin/banana from anywhere

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that's an absolute path

shy tendon Jul 30, 2020, 4:21 AM

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so the list of directories, would that be from an open source?

half sentinel Jul 30, 2020, 4:21 AM

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the PATH environment variable just adds directories to be search when you run some command without specifying a path

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i could be from anything, doesn't have to be open source

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just some executable

shy tendon Jul 30, 2020, 4:22 AM

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oh! So it's like "auto correct" in a way

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it gives you "recommendations"

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for what it thinks you might want

half sentinel Jul 30, 2020, 4:22 AM

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well it just runs the first one it finds

shy tendon Jul 30, 2020, 4:22 AM

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lmao

half sentinel Jul 30, 2020, 4:22 AM

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doesn't give you reccomendations 🙂

shy tendon Jul 30, 2020, 4:23 AM

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okay, I'm starting to understand it better now!

Thank you for the enlightenment

half sentinel Jul 30, 2020, 4:23 AM

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thumbsupio

shy tendon Jul 30, 2020, 4:23 AM

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♥️

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👍

spice pulsar Jul 30, 2020, 5:55 AM

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If I have a Vue.js app which connects to a Django backend through REST API, can I deploy it as a single app on Heroku or I'll have to deploy them as two separate apps?
If the former is possible, then can someone guide me to a tutorial or something for the same?

half sentinel Jul 30, 2020, 5:58 AM

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vue.js app runs client side. what would you deploy separately to heroku for that?

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just put your vue.js app where you server all your other static files from

spice pulsar Jul 30, 2020, 6:01 AM

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No, vue.js running through NPM as an application. Like, where I have to do npm run serve to access my Vue.js app

half sentinel Jul 30, 2020, 6:04 AM

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you sure that's just just running a webserver? this is for a frontend app run in the browser, correct?

covert kindle Jul 30, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Has anyone used onivim(2) or neovim?

I want to focus on and get really good at a universal set of keymaps, so I started learning vim a few days ago. I was previously using a mix of atom + vscode + custom keymaps, which wasn't transferable anywhere.

Im loving the vim experience, im just curious how closely the vanilla vim keymaps transfer over to onivim and neovim.

spice pulsar Jul 30, 2020, 6:23 AM

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you sure that's just just running a webserver? this is for a frontend app run in the browser, correct?
@half sentinel
Vue.js app runs it's own server on a separate port to serve the front-end application

half sentinel Jul 30, 2020, 6:25 AM

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yeah but i imagine that's just for development ergonomics

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it's just static files being served to the browser

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you could serve them from any webserver

spice pulsar Jul 30, 2020, 6:27 AM

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I don't know what you mean by static files, it's a reactive app, same as react.js

half sentinel Jul 30, 2020, 6:28 AM

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yeah, i'm familiar but it's just html and js files being served. the browser is doing the interpreting

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The vue-cli-service serve command starts a dev server (based on webpack-dev-server) that comes with Hot-Module-Replacement (HMR) working out of the box.

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even the docs say it's just meant as a dev server

spice pulsar Jul 30, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Oh, ok. So basically I don't know how to deploy a Vue.js application in production

half sentinel Jul 30, 2020, 6:30 AM

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you take your build files and can serve them with nginx, cache them in a cdn, etc

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you could even serve them straight from flask

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just drop them in a static directory and flask will serve them automatically

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though depending on your scale you probably want to put them behind a dedicated webserver or cache them in a cdn

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it's just a bundle you need to get delivered to the browser somehow

spice pulsar Jul 30, 2020, 6:38 AM

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Ok. I'll read up a bit. That was very helpful, I know very little about front-end applications, so don't know anything about deployment

half sentinel Jul 30, 2020, 6:38 AM

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no problem

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 7:25 AM

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Vue/react/svelte --- they're all the same. You need to do the production build and ship that minified code to whatever web host you want ... Most folks are doing netlify as an easy start

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Otherwise, you will be managing a VM somewhere and doing all the nginx/Apache configs yourself (although, I do recommend doing that at some point lol)

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I've done it with S3 buckets in the past as well

spice pulsar Jul 30, 2020, 9:17 AM

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Can I deploy it on Heroku with my Django app? @gusty willow

wooden ibex Jul 30, 2020, 1:02 PM

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Probably

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 1:33 PM

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i'm not sure exactly how that would work ... i suppose you would just have the production stuff in there with your other static assets ... but the it would be hard to drive any django dynamic content like that because the html template variables are going to get washed out by the JS build

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i normally see them as two seperate deploys with and API tween the two

spice pulsar Jul 30, 2020, 1:37 PM

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I'm not using Django templates, only django models and API as backend. The entire front end is in Vue

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 2:28 PM

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have you shipped anything yet?

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if so, just follow that process. Otherwise, I think you would be better off with two deployments

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mostly because the runtimes are going to be different

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WSGI for Django will be the one entrypoint and i don't think multiple entrypoints can coexist on a heroku app

sand thistle Jul 30, 2020, 3:17 PM

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should my project files be inside my venv folder

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or should my venv folder be inside my project folders

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im trying to deploy to cloud

tawdry needle Jul 30, 2020, 3:18 PM

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@sand thistle the latter

sand thistle Jul 30, 2020, 3:18 PM

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that's what i thought

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thx

tawdry needle Jul 30, 2020, 3:18 PM

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my-project/
  src/
  tests/
  venv/
  .gitignore
  readme.md
  setup.py

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and of course you would exclude the venv files from any deployment or packaging

spice pulsar Jul 30, 2020, 3:21 PM

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OK. I am just trying to understand how to do it. I haven't deployed any front end so far, only one a very small pure Django app on Heroku.

have you shipped anything yet?
@gusty willow

floral shale Jul 30, 2020, 3:36 PM

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Any clue why (in a conda environment) that pytest and py.test would function differently?

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I have pytest-cov installed and, for some reason, running pytest it doesn't see it, but py.test does?

half sentinel Jul 30, 2020, 3:38 PM

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@spice pulsar you should have an html and a js bundle from your webpack build i imagine, you just need to drop that in a static directory and make sure your html refers to your bundle in said /static/bundle.js or whatever it's named

heavy knot Jul 30, 2020, 3:39 PM

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i have an app that uses an exe whos folder is listed on my env path. so when i want to make a docker image of my app, do i have to bring the exe into the docker container or can images in a container still access env path

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Can anyone help me remove these

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they are useless almost all

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It happened after typing launch os

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 3:42 PM

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i have an app that uses an exe whos folder is listed on my env path. so when i want to make a docker image of my app, do i have to bring the exe into the docker container or can images in a container still access env path
@heavy knot you would need the exe, docker is isolated-ish from the host

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@heavy knot you could do a volume mount to see the exe, but that comes with it's own things lol

heavy knot Jul 30, 2020, 3:44 PM

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and if the exe also has some dependencies like dlls i would also have to bring them in?

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 3:44 PM

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yup

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in general, windows containers are no fun lol

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unless the DLL is a system level dll, you would need it

heavy knot Jul 30, 2020, 3:49 PM

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how would the app search for the exe

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 3:49 PM

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i tend to use kata containers these days now, so I get the added isolation of a virtual kernel, but that adds even more complexity (but also, i'm able to really trim the attack surface all the same)

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what do you mean "how would it search for it"? in your path variable like everything else

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and/or use full paths (which is my recommendation)

heavy knot Jul 30, 2020, 3:50 PM

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oh so u would have to make your own path variable in the container

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 3:51 PM

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yeah, if you don't want to call it from where it actually lives

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or i guess, rather, you maybe don't know where it lives

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in which case, that is a different problem lol

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luckily though, in a container, you have full control over those things lol

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what is it that you need to run in a windows container?

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9/10 things i see people trying to to in a WinContainer can be much more easily done in a linux container

wooden ibex Jul 30, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Windows Applications?

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.Net Framework stuff

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 3:56 PM

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most .Net stuff runs just fine on .Net core that can live in a unix container now 🤷

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the pure windows app might be the sole use case, but running those in a container is probably not what you are after lol

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given the lack of a UI and all lol

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only time i come across them now-a-days is for building windows apps in a CI pipeline. Granted, I'm no windows dev so I really can't speak for them

wooden ibex Jul 30, 2020, 4:14 PM

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.Net Framework != .Net Core

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and we have C# console applications that do things

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Sorry, missed the framework mention lol

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as mentioned, not a win dev

flint ember Jul 30, 2020, 4:38 PM

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So, I'm trying to run a simple print program on sublime, and it says Python is not recognised as an internal or external command
Any ideas on how to fix this?

covert kindle Jul 30, 2020, 4:41 PM

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It must not be in your path or Sublime doesn't see it. Open a cmd prompt/terminal and type in python.

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If it fails then it's not in your path. Otherwise sublime doesn't see it.

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Run the python installer again and make sure the "add to path" option is enabled.

flint ember Jul 30, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Thank you

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i think it worked?

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ill let you know

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Still doesn't seem to be working

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I'm quite confused on how this works still @covert kindle

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 5:07 PM

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which is failing? CMD or just sublime at this point?

flint ember Jul 30, 2020, 5:11 PM

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sublime

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its so confusing

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 5:13 PM

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so when you cmd, you can just type "python" and you get an interpreter?

flint ember Jul 30, 2020, 5:15 PM

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when i run cmd i type "py" and it works

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but when i run sublime it doesnt seem to work

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@gusty willow im so confused

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 5:20 PM

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sounds like you just need to select an interpreter

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https://realpython.com/setting-up-sublime-text-3-for-full-stack-python-development/

Setting Up Sublime Text 3 for Full Stack Python Development – Real ...

This article details how to set up Sublime Text for full stack Python development.

flint ember Jul 30, 2020, 5:24 PM

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perfect

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thank you!

tawdry needle Jul 30, 2020, 5:41 PM

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very helpful link @gusty willow thank you

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surprised to see no mention of LSP

gusty willow Jul 30, 2020, 5:44 PM

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I'm kind of neither here nor there on LSPs

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Spotty connections make them worse than useless

tawdry needle Jul 30, 2020, 6:13 PM

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indeed

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i dont think ive ever used a language server over a network

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just local

misty mica Jul 30, 2020, 11:56 PM

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help

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im stucked

half sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 12:04 AM

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!ask

rancid schoonerBOT Jul 31, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Asking good questions will yield a much higher chance of a quick response:

• Don't ask to ask your question, just go ahead and tell us your problem.
• Don't ask if anyone is knowledgeable in some area, filtering serves no purpose.
• Try to solve the problem on your own first, we're not going to write code for you.
• Show us the code you've tried and any errors or unexpected results it's giving.
• Be patient while we're helping you.

You can find a much more detailed explanation on our website.

covert kindle Jul 31, 2020, 3:38 AM

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If it's stuck, w40. If it's loose, duck tape.

lyric bobcat Jul 31, 2020, 7:30 AM

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I'm working on a windows system, so Powershell became my go to console. However I find it fairly annoying that I need to have a window opened for each notebook instance /flask app I got running. On Linux I used tmux, simply to spawn a session, spin up the notebook sever and disconnect. I've googled for tmux alternatives, but they are mainly concerned with this whole window splitting capabilities of tmux, which I don't particularly care about. All I care about is decreasing the number of windows I've got opened.

frank compass Jul 31, 2020, 8:05 AM

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@lyric bobcat https://eugeny.github.io/terminus/

lethal ermine Jul 31, 2020, 8:38 AM

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Hello I have a graph with lots of edges I want to visualize (I used matplotlib but it’s lagging)
Do yoy have a module or any other application I can use to easily visualise my Graph ?
Btw I use networkx

lyric bobcat Jul 31, 2020, 8:54 AM

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@frank compass Thank you!

covert kindle Jul 31, 2020, 1:27 PM

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@lyric bobcat
I use GitBash for everything. You can push jobs to the backhround to be like daemons.

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Plus you get the unix commands, feel, and bash navigation.

wooden ibex Jul 31, 2020, 2:49 PM

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@lyric bobcat go with Microsoft solution https://github.com/microsoft/terminal

GitHub

microsoft/terminal

The new Windows Terminal and the original Windows console host, all in the same place! - microsoft/terminal

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Fishy sezer, pushing jobs to background? You mean like Powershell Start/stop/get-job feature

covert kindle Jul 31, 2020, 3:46 PM

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Don't know, I've never used powershell. Just basic cmd.

wooden ibex Jul 31, 2020, 4:37 PM

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ouch

past junco Jul 31, 2020, 5:29 PM

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Has anyone set up pipenv on Git Bash? It seems to work, but when I type pipenv shell the shell starts but doesn't show the virtualenv name the way a normal venv or conda env does

proper cairn Jul 31, 2020, 6:02 PM

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^not sure. I've got a question: my primary IDE is Spyder + Anaconda - I've installed all the requirements for that -> switching to Atom + Hydrogen I needed to do a pip install ipython - does that mean I have an entirely separate installation of 'Python'? I'm sorry, I'm relatively new to this

past junco Jul 31, 2020, 6:18 PM

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you should be able to have Atom use the version of python that came with Anaconda. If you still want to use conda, that's the way to go

covert kindle Jul 31, 2020, 7:03 PM

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I use virtualenv on GitBash. No problems, but I did make a shell script that colorizes the name. It was defaulting to the same color as my cwd.

half sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 8:26 PM

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You were told that was against the tos in #python-discussion and yet you asked here and #async-and-concurrency, both channels completely unrelated to your question...

misty pilot Jul 31, 2020, 8:31 PM

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ok, why is it against ToS?

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@half sentinel why is it against ToS, i've never heard about it

half sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 8:36 PM

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that's not really on topic here and neither is your question. if there's not an appropriate topical chat you can use #❓｜how-to-get-help to learn how to get a help channel.

misty pilot Jul 31, 2020, 8:37 PM

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I JUST GOT INTO THIS SERVER LESS THAN 2 HOURS AGO, EXCUSE ME FOR TRYING TO ASK A QUESTION

half sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 8:37 PM

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i'm telling you where to ask it

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your question doesn't have anything to do with async or devops

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there's a whole system for getting a dedicated help channel

misty pilot Jul 31, 2020, 8:38 PM

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and i'm supposed to already know this before i get into the server?

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thanks for being so helpful

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i'll go ask where i should

half sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 8:39 PM

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well yeah, it's in the welcome guide

misty pilot Jul 31, 2020, 8:39 PM

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well yeah, it's not completely clear to start off

half sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 8:39 PM

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okay well now you know. sorry for any confusion

iron basalt Jul 31, 2020, 9:06 PM

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@misty pilot I'm not sure what your original question was, but @half sentinel is right that we cannot help you with anything that would violate our or another party's terms of service, as per our rules

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Each channel has a topic which explains what the channel is for, for questions relating to the community itself feel free to use #community-meta

half sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 9:07 PM

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they deleted their messages, it was about stock market bots

misty pilot Jul 31, 2020, 9:08 PM

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not a bot, just a screener/scanner to watch the charts and what not, of which i will use the api provided 🙂

half sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 9:08 PM

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i'm not super aware of why they're against tos personally but i saw it mentioned in general

iron basalt Jul 31, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Alright, thanks ~ in the future if you see something like that, it's preferred if you let us know via @balmy mulch, I'd hate to have you guys start fighting over it

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@misty pilot if your project does not violate any terms of use then feel free to make use of our help channel system as gary pointed out

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otherwise, welcome to the server!

misty pilot Jul 31, 2020, 9:10 PM

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where does it show tos because other people are making them.... if it is then they're all breaking tos

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i'm sorry, i'm not tryign to be a knucklehead, but this is the first time ive ever heard it's against tos

iron basalt Jul 31, 2020, 9:11 PM

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I'm not sure which service your original question was relating to

misty pilot Jul 31, 2020, 9:12 PM

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ok, so i'm just trying to create a stock market scanner, to show the trend flows to be able to pick which stocks to invest in. there are others out there, was wanting to make my own instead of pay out the rearend for one

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not an automated bot to buy/sell for me, i'll do that on my own

half sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 9:14 PM

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i can't speak to whether that is or is not against the tos, my annoyance was when someone told you it was against the tos you moved to two different unrelated rooms to ask the same question rather than get clarity

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it's like when you get in trouble with mom and then go ask dad for permission behind her back

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but also just wanted to point you to the correct way to get help

misty pilot Jul 31, 2020, 9:15 PM

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ok and you took it upon yhourself to be dad here

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that's what made me mad

half sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 9:16 PM

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it showed an intention to ignore and circumvent rather than understand a concern raised

misty pilot Jul 31, 2020, 9:17 PM

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ok, the feeling i got when i asked the first time, was someone hitting me over the head with a ball bat

iron basalt Jul 31, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Alright I think we're going off topic for this channel now

half sentinel Jul 31, 2020, 9:17 PM

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very much so 🙂

iron basalt Jul 31, 2020, 9:17 PM

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feel free to continue in #community-meta if you have questions regarding what is and what isn't okay to discuss here

covert kindle Jul 31, 2020, 9:26 PM

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I just bought 2x14tb WD HDD's. Before I backup my life, I wanted to test them for bad sectors or any errors. I've never done it though, so does anyone have software they recommend? (Windows)

frozen summit Jul 31, 2020, 10:20 PM

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@covert kindle https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskinfo/ this is what i usually use

Crystal Dew World [en]

CrystalDiskInfo

About CrystalDiskInfo A HDD/SSD utility software which supports a part of USB, Intel/AMD RAID and NVMe. Standard Edition Shizuku Edition Kurei Kei Edition Download System Requirements OS Windows XP/Vista/7/8/8.1/10Windows Server 2003/2008/2012/2016/2019 Architecture x86/x64/AR...

slow harbor Aug 1, 2020, 3:56 PM

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I'm about to release an open-source project with an associated documentation. I wrote it with sphinx but I'm still hesitating: Github pages or Readthedoc, what is the best ?

tawdry needle Aug 1, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Whatever is easier for you probably

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RTD is nice because you can host multiple versions simultaneously

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Whereas github just uses whatever is on your master branch

slow harbor Aug 1, 2020, 5:11 PM

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ok. And I think that github page is always working with an index.html and a static repository content ? It doesn't automatically compile the sphinx doc on changes ?

orchid dock Aug 1, 2020, 6:11 PM

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hey, how do you bypass writing sudo with docker everytime??

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i read about making a user group that has the same privileges as admin but i do not want to do that

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any other ideas on this?

astral plinth Aug 1, 2020, 6:39 PM

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i have a question

gusty willow Aug 1, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Go ahead @astral plinth

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@orchid dock did you not add yourself to the "docker" group?

astral plinth Aug 1, 2020, 8:53 PM

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nvm i found a solution

gusty willow Aug 1, 2020, 8:54 PM

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👍

obsidian sparrow Aug 1, 2020, 9:54 PM

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I have a question if anyone can help. I have the root folder of my project set as the source root in pycharm. When I try to import from the source root in a child module it looks starting from the child module. I'm trying to import the stonks (the root) folder but pycharm seems to think that I want to import from test.webserver.stonks Does anyone know how I can fix this?

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gusty willow Aug 2, 2020, 1:33 AM

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That's one of the problems of pycharm, it tries to be too smart

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I can't see your screen well enough on my phone, so I'll have to jump to a laptop to help.

orchid dock Aug 2, 2020, 8:18 AM

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@orchid dock did you not add yourself to the "docker" group?
@gusty willow i know about that workaround but it's not secure. Do you know another workaround?

eternal flicker Aug 2, 2020, 10:22 AM

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@orchid dock it's not secure because anyone able to run docker can start containers with root privileges with docker run --privileged, which would also be the case if you ever find another way to bypass using sudo to run docker

there is this experimental feature you can look at otherwise: https://docs.docker.com/engine/security/rootless/

Docker Documentation

Run the Docker daemon as a non-root user (Rootless mode)

Rootless mode allows running the Docker daemon and containers as a non-root user to mitigate potential vulnerabilities in the daemon and the container runtime. Rootless mode does not require root...

orchid dock Aug 2, 2020, 12:28 PM

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@eternal flicker yeah, saw the rootless mode but it's still in testing

gusty willow Aug 2, 2020, 12:33 PM

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@orchid dock that's not a work around, that's the process lol. Docker is simply not a secure solution. If you want secure, check out kata containers.

tired rivet Aug 2, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Would this be the appropriate channel for asking about git?

true vapor Aug 2, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Yes

tired rivet Aug 2, 2020, 1:59 PM

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I realised those messages weren't clear whatsoever

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My project structure is:

FSO > part1 > courseinfo > files, including a .git folder

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I'd like to push the FSO folder to github

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As in the future i intend on adding a part2, 3, 4, etc.

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the .git folder inside 'courseinfo' was automatically created when I ran create-react-app so I can delete if neccessary

gusty willow Aug 2, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Yes you can delete the extra git @tired rivet

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Unless you have already pushed commits from it

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It makes things a little rough to clean up because remote states won't match local states

tired rivet Aug 2, 2020, 4:41 PM

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@gusty willow thank you, ill give it a go now and see what happens

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So im going to delete the exiting git folder, and then run git init within the FSO dir

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Then im going for git add . from the FSO dir

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And that is generating a lottt of warnings

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"LF will be replaced by CRLF in part-1/node_modules/..."

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"The file will have its original line endings your working directory"

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seems to be doing this for every single file in the node_modules dir

gusty willow Aug 2, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Node modules should be ignored

finite fulcrum Aug 2, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Is there a way to hide certain folders from a project in pycharm?

heavy knot Aug 2, 2020, 7:03 PM

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suppose i created a project with pipenv and i had python 3.6 back then

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now i have a new machine

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and i saved my projects on a usb stick

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now i remove my projects from the usb and put them on the computer

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i install pipenv

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and run pipenv shell in the project folder

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i get this output

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Neither 'pyenv' nor 'asdf' could be found to install Python.
You can specify specific versions of Python with:
$ pipenv --python path\to\python```

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But i don't want these projects to use Python 3.6 anymore

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I want them to use 3.8

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how do i do that?

half sentinel Aug 2, 2020, 7:23 PM

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pipenv --python 3.8?

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you might also need to update your Pipfile

heavy knot Aug 2, 2020, 9:17 PM

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that did it

ebon spire Aug 3, 2020, 8:53 AM

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I'm not sure if this the right channel. But is there any conda command along with a file that I can use to tell which environment to use for that particular project. Like with node.js' nvm where there is a command nvm use which will activate the node.js version that is set on a file name .nvmrc which contains the node.js version use on that project.

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 12:48 PM

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@ebon spire sadly no, you have to use 3rd party tools for that like direnv

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Would be a very nice feature

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Pyenv has that ability as well

quiet rune Aug 3, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Does anyone here know where I can find documentation or the source for handling install_requires that use the VCS format package-name @ git+... ?

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 2:30 PM

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warning: Pulling without specifying how to reconcile divergent branches is
discouraged. You can squelch this message by running one of the following
commands sometime before your next pull:

  git config pull.rebase false  # merge (the default strategy)
  git config pull.rebase true   # rebase
  git config pull.ff only       # fast-forward only

You can replace "git config" with "git config --global" to set a default
preference for all repositories. You can also pass --rebase, --no-rebase,
or --ff-only on the command line to override the configured default per
invocation.

This message seems kinda vague - I'm not even sure what the definition of a divergent branch is - or which are diverging

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@ebon spire @tawdry needle in zshell there's a thing for that, or is it just part of virtualenv? You have a .venv file in the repo root and it activates it for you

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 2:33 PM

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@topaz aspen there are zshenv and zsh-autoenv but they are still 3rd party tools

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Also "divergent" just means "anything you can't fast forward merge"

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It's saying that it wants you to specify in your config if you want to merge, rebase, or ff-only by default

finite fulcrum Aug 3, 2020, 2:41 PM

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Is there a way to completely ignore local changes to a tracked file with git?

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 2:48 PM

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@tawdry needle ah, fair - i wasn't sure whether the zshell was wrapping something that was built in or doing the work (re the .venv thing) guess it's the latter.

i'll have to read up on the git thing, usually just works, damn.

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 2:48 PM

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@finite fulcrum like permanently ignore?

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as in "never stage or commit changes to this file"?

finite fulcrum Aug 3, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Yes

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 2:49 PM

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@topaz aspen this was a change in git sometime last year, they wanted to make sure people are being explicit about their preferred behavior. you can just leave it alone if you dont mind the warning message every time 🙂

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and to be clear, i have no idea what tool uses .venv but it's not zsh itself

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you probably installed something and forgot about it

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@finite fulcrum there's now way that i know of to do this built into git. you can probably write a smudge/clean filter for it, or a separate shell script that reads "do not update" filenames off a list and runs the relevant commands

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https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Customizing-Git-Git-Attributes explanation of git filters

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in fact i think what you're asking for is not generally supported by git:
https://git-scm.com/docs/git-update-index#_notes

Users often try to use the assume-unchanged and skip-worktree bits to tell Git to ignore changes to files that are tracked. This does not work as expected, since Git may still check working tree files against the index when performing certain operations. In general, Git does not provide a way to ignore changes to tracked files, so alternate solutions are recommended.

For example, if the file you want to change is some sort of config file, the repository can include a sample config file that can then be copied into the ignored name and modified. The repository can even include a script to treat the sample file as a template, modifying and copying it automatically.

heavy knot Aug 3, 2020, 2:53 PM

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how can i git clone sherlock for python?

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i tried git cloning and it said syntax error

finite fulcrum Aug 3, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Guess I'll hope I don't tick it in pycharm then

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 2:59 PM

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@finite fulcrum what file are you trying to ignore changes to?

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pycharm might have its own functionality built on top of git

finite fulcrum Aug 3, 2020, 2:59 PM

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A docker compose script I needed to change for it to work locally

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 3:03 PM

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ah

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what should happen when you pull or merge from a remote?

finite fulcrum Aug 3, 2020, 4:27 PM

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@tawdry needle ideally nothing to that file

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 4:28 PM

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So if the remote updates the file you ignore the change?

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I think your only option is smudge/clean where you replace the tracked version of the file with your own version on checkout

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:26 PM

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@topaz aspen https://asdf-vm.com/#/ maybe one could write a conda plugin for this?

asdf vm - An extendable version manager

An extendable version manager

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:26 PM

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I'm trying to escape conda XD

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Only other option seems to be docker tbh

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:28 PM

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i read someone using conda like docker actually

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it was on reddit somewhere, they made a fairly sound argument for it

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though I can't remember it, as I've not used it for that, and not used docker either

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:29 PM

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The whole point of conda is to be a binary package manager for things beyond just python

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e.g. python libraries with compiled c extensions

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:30 PM

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well i guess they were one of the few that actually got the point then ha

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:30 PM

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you'd be surprised

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once upon a time installing numpy on windows was a shitty experience

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conda had it figured out before numpy devs were shipping wheels for windows

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and with conda you actually get to control which compiler version was used to build the package, which is not true for binary wheels

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the dependency resolution is much more strict and precise in conda than pip

vague lion Aug 3, 2020, 6:31 PM

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On your dev machines, do you like install postgres, redis, rabbitmq, etc (really any external service for your project) either on your dev box or dockerize those things?

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:32 PM

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oh - i'm not surprised by that - though i use unix/mac/linux or whatever, i'm aware that conda provides a good resources for windows users (esp in cases where admin permissions are locked)

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:32 PM

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conda had a long rough start to where it is today, but now its a much more capable tool for reproducible research environments than some ad-hoc stuff put together with pip

gusty willow Aug 3, 2020, 6:32 PM

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@vague lion depends what you need them to do

vague lion Aug 3, 2020, 6:32 PM

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(I am happy about the new work going into pip and its new dependency resolver.)

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:32 PM

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@tawdry needle what about something put together with pip, with requirements files?

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:32 PM

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the point of conda isnt that its good for windows, the point is that it ships language-agnostic binary packages, which can include "software" like gcc and libssl etc

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pip only covers python packages

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need to compile against libblas? download it yourself or hope they ship a wheel

gusty willow Aug 3, 2020, 6:33 PM

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@vague lion I tend to run everything at least in a docker composition to make sure networking junk works well, but you need the external stuff for e2e

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:34 PM

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@tawdry needle i've never had to concern myself... food for thought though

vague lion Aug 3, 2020, 6:34 PM

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@gusty willow Good point. I need to start doing that more.

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:34 PM

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@topaz aspen also its much better for polyglot setups

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what if you have both R and Python scripts in your project?

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:34 PM

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I do 🙃

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:34 PM

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what if you wrote your own C code and need to make sure your collaborators use a similar version of GCC?

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:35 PM

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currently writing the R -> python lol

vague lion Aug 3, 2020, 6:35 PM

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I heard Conda kicks butt for getting Nvidia drivers working with Pytorch/TF on Windows.

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:35 PM

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re C, I have no idea, I did consider learning docker for the sake of having an env for R and Python tho, but never got round to it

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:35 PM

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right. use conda instead

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:36 PM

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i think i'm going to have a hard time selling that - and getting myself to learn it over other stuff i have to do

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:36 PM

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write a yaml environment file, conda env create -n my-project -f environment.yaml

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:36 PM

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but I'll keep it in mind

gusty willow Aug 3, 2020, 6:36 PM

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I just can't imagine using windows for anything other than windows development though (kind of like the only reason for owning a Mac)

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:36 PM

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yeah I've used conda like that - but just for python

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:36 PM

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yep, its nice even for that

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:36 PM

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i didn't really prefer it to pip for that tbh

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:36 PM

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pip is fine most of the time

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and conda has a LOT of rough edges

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but for data science type work i will use conda every single time over pyenv+pip

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oh yeah - controlling your python and r runtime versions

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:37 PM

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i stopped using pyenv actually, just use brew and pipx now

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:37 PM

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if you arent using conda or docker, have fun with your 3d party tooling salad

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yeah i love pipx

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i actually wish brew would support "environments" like this

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:37 PM

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i hate my 3rd party tooling salad 😭

gusty willow Aug 3, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Pipx, that's a new one for me

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:38 PM

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the brew model would easily support it. i just imagine that their codebase doesnt

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hell with conda you can even specify what git version to use in your project

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i dont go that far but you could

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:38 PM

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unLiKe PeRL THerE's OnlY OnE OBviOUs wAY to DO thInGs IN PytHon

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@tawdry needle one of the main things i've head about conda is "dependency hell" 🤔

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i've not personally run into that afaik - but i have heard from people who have lost a lot of time with it, though idk what it really entails, maybe they messed something up

vague lion Aug 3, 2020, 6:40 PM

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For my data science stuff, venv and pip does what I need to. But, I know my Nvidia crap is pre-configured correctly, so I don't have to worry about that as much. And, I am on Ubuntu.

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:40 PM

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yeah some things simply have incompatible dependencies

vague lion Aug 3, 2020, 6:40 PM

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pipx is cool.

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:40 PM

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and for some reason conda's dependency resolver isn't always good about handling it

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@vague lion yeah conda shipping binary packages is just a nice plus

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:40 PM

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right - and that ends up in some kind of hell?

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I use pip-tools, so i do pip-compile --generate-hashes and pip-sync, not much else

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:41 PM

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yeah possibly. usually i just delete my env and start over if that kind of thing happens. maybe 75% of the time it's my fault and not conda's

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yeah pip-compile is really nice

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im not saying there's anything wrong with your stack, im just saying i like conda and i will advocate for its usage in the right context

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and that it fills a unique niche, and has additional benefits beyond what a language-specific package manager and virtual environment type of setup can offer

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does R still not even have a venv equivalent?

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kind of blows my mind that it doesnt

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Oh - i'm always happy to have my stack dissed 😄

gusty willow Aug 3, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Not sure I see a place in my workflow for pipx

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:43 PM

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and yeah - it can get a bit circle-jerky , I've definitely dissed conda more than i have the knowledge to do so - mainly because it annoyed me by dumping in my rc and automatically activating itself i guess

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 6:43 PM

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@gusty willow its good for "system wide" python package installations, i use it for stuff like litecli, dvc, mypy, and poetry

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but i also specify mypy as a dev dependency in most projects

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i just like having a system-wide version for poking around and testing things

gusty willow Aug 3, 2020, 6:46 PM

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Ah ok, poetry makes sense

topaz aspen Aug 3, 2020, 6:46 PM

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I've not touched poetry

vague lion Aug 3, 2020, 6:59 PM

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I install cli tools with pipx. httpie is the main use case. And, I will occassionally use glances.

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 7:54 PM

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here's a fun one for the vim users - get syntax highlighting for MANIFEST.in:

augroup vimrc_ft_setuptools_manifest
  autocmd BufNewFile,BufRead MANIFEST.in setfiletype setuptools-manifest
  autocmd FileType setuptools-manifest syntax keyword setuptoolsManifestDirective include
  autocmd FileType setuptools-manifest syntax keyword setuptoolsManifestDirective exclude
  autocmd FileType setuptools-manifest syntax keyword setuptoolsManifestDirective recursive-include
  autocmd FileType setuptools-manifest syntax keyword setuptoolsManifestDirective recursive-exclude
  autocmd FileType setuptools-manifest syntax keyword setuptoolsManifestDirective global-include
  autocmd FileType setuptools-manifest syntax keyword setuptoolsManifestDirective global-exclude
  autocmd FileType setuptools-manifest syntax keyword setuptoolsManifestDirective graft
  autocmd FileType setuptools-manifest syntax keyword setuptoolsManifestDirective prune
  autocmd FileType setuptools-manifest highlight default link setuptoolsManifestDirective Keyword
augroup END

finite fulcrum Aug 3, 2020, 8:05 PM

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the smudge/clean seems to work, at least I think as the changes don't show up at all while they are present, thanks

tawdry needle Aug 3, 2020, 9:19 PM

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good stuff

glad ferry Aug 3, 2020, 11:55 PM

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would someone happen to know how to run a input script on Atom for python. Im losing my mind trying to figure it out lmao

covert kindle Aug 3, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Finally got a decent solution for knowing when I leave caps-lock on. Rainmeter skin that shows a notice (Doesn't blink, I'm just toggling it) when caps-lock is enabled.

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https://i.imgur.com/675QqGs.gif

Imgur

proven swallow Aug 4, 2020, 1:18 AM

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anyone know how to use pip2? I have python 2 and 3 installed but I specifically want to install a module for python 2, when i use 'pip2 install ___' it says pip2 is not recognized

simple trellis Aug 4, 2020, 2:10 AM

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Are you on linux

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You can always do python2 -m pip

heavy knot Aug 4, 2020, 6:10 AM

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I'm just new

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Uhm

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Can anyone help me cloning a public repo?

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PowerShell

eternal flicker Aug 4, 2020, 6:12 AM

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what problems do you have? just asking the question rather than asking to ask will yield faster responses

river sinew Aug 4, 2020, 12:44 PM

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@heavy knot install git for windows

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https://git-scm.com/downloads

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Or the github app

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https://desktop.github.com/

GitHub Desktop

Simple collaboration from your desktop

heavy knot Aug 4, 2020, 1:03 PM

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The torch package contains data structures for multi-dimensional tensors and mathematical operations over these are defined. Additionally, it provides many utilities for efficient serializing of Tensors and arbitrary types, and other useful utilities. It has a CUDA counterpart, that enables you to run your tensor computations on an NVIDIA GPU with compute capability >= 3.0.

can some1 give an idea of what gpus support it?

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me crying in amd gpu

tawdry needle Aug 4, 2020, 1:06 PM

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oof. i've always been told to just avoid AMD for this

heavy knot Aug 4, 2020, 1:06 PM

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welp
when i realized i cd buy a laptop 2x as powerful for $20 more (1650 > rx560x)

tawdry needle Aug 4, 2020, 1:06 PM

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double oof

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also dont buy a laptop for machine learning imo

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just buy something that's light and comfortable to use. just pay the few bucks for cloud computing

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or buy a desktop PC and SSH in from the coffee shop

heavy knot Aug 4, 2020, 1:07 PM

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ik xd ill be moving to pc in a couple decades :3

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wait is cloud computing better for that type of stuff?

tawdry needle Aug 4, 2020, 1:10 PM

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not necessarily better

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but you can either spend $2500 on a PC, or spend like a couple hundred $ over the course of the year on cloud machines

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buying a badass machine learning rig is only worth it if you are doing a lot of heavy computation all the time

heavy knot Aug 4, 2020, 1:11 PM

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hm tru

tawdry needle Aug 4, 2020, 1:11 PM

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e.g. if you are a full time machine learning freelancer or something

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and even then you will probably end up working in VMs on your client's infrastructure

heavy knot Aug 4, 2020, 1:11 PM

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ok ive decided to buy a pc with 8 rtx quadros next century

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looks like i have to rethink this tho
ty for the help :3

tawdry needle Aug 4, 2020, 1:12 PM

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laptops are like the worst of both worlds imo. just get enough memory and processing so that you can open as many browser tabs as you want, dont overdo it

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youre welcome

river sinew Aug 4, 2020, 1:43 PM

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@tawdry needle the only laptops that make sense are ultrabooks

tawdry needle Aug 4, 2020, 1:45 PM

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or really old lenovos 🙂

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or pre-usb-c macbook pros

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 1:53 PM

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Idk, my system76 is pretty powerful lol

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https://system76.com/laptops/serval

Serval WS

A pinnacle of performance, Serval WS features desktop AMD processors, and the latest NVIDIA GPUs wrapped in the slimmest desktop replacement on the market. System76 laptops are custom-built to run Linux flawlessly.

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I don't do ML though

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But the AMD 3900 + 64G ram make quick-ish work of the things I compile on the regular

topaz aspen Aug 4, 2020, 2:00 PM

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or pre-usb-c macbook pros
😦

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 2:03 PM

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I would love a threadripper, but damn they are expensive

tawdry needle Aug 4, 2020, 2:19 PM

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my point is that the same amount of computer in desktop form is a lot cheaper @gusty willow

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and that for the price of a laptop that powerful you can have much much more computer if you get a PC instead

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Yeah, but I need it to move ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I have servers to do the heavy lifting for me when I'm home, but I have to travel for work more often than I like

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And grossly enough, I'm still running my servers with openstack lol

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But I've not found a good way to create resource pools in kubernetes yet, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

idle forge Aug 4, 2020, 3:24 PM

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It would be great if someone can spare me a few mins, I have a fail Travis build the it's a very simple one, just clone this repo and push to another one but it fails at git config and the error message is not helping, I have no idea why but it seems like a very simple mistake... https://travis-ci.com/github/terminusdb/terminusdb-client-python-wiki

Travis CI - Test and Deploy with Confidence

Travis CI enables your team to test and ship your apps with confidence. Easily sync your projects with Travis CI and you'll be testing your code in minutes.

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Why not just post the error @idle forge? No offence, but I'm not cloning any unsolicited repo or clicking any unsolicited links in a public discord.

idle forge Aug 4, 2020, 3:48 PM

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ok I will copy the error:
The command "git config user.name "[secure]"

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It's not very helpful I think... here is the travis script:
script:

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git config user.name "Cheukting"
git config user.email $GITHUB_EMAIL
git remote remove origin
git remote add origin https://$GITHUB_API_KEY@github.com/terminusdb/terminusdb-client-python-wiki.git > /dev/null 2>&1
git remote add upstream https://$GITHUB_API_KEY@github.com/terminusdb/terminusdb-client-python.wiki.git > /dev/null 2>&1
git fetch origin
git fetch upstream
git merge upstream/master --no-edit
git push origin HEAD:master > /dev/null 2>&1
git push upstream HEAD:master > /dev/null 2>&1

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 3:53 PM

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why do you have both the origin and the upstream set to the same repo?

idle forge Aug 4, 2020, 3:56 PM

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they are not the same, one with -wiki the other .wiki

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The reason why I do this is that I want others can contribute to the wiki of the other repo, since GitHub does not allow PRs to send to .wiki repos so I am doing this

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I am following a tutorial to do this... I have a link to the tutorial.... but I guess links are not allow?

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If you want to see it try googling "Enabling pull requests on GitHub wikis"

warm pollen Aug 4, 2020, 4:12 PM

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Hey guys, do you know if there is a way to make a container privileged during the build phase with docker-compose?

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 4:13 PM

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they are not the same, one with -wiki the other .wiki
@idle forge punctuation ftl 😄

idle forge Aug 4, 2020, 4:14 PM

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@idle forge punctuation ftl 😄
@gusty willow yes it's very subtle

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 4:14 PM

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links are allowed, I just won't click them 😄

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but yeah, this: The command "git config user.name "[secure]" is not exactly an error

tawdry needle Aug 4, 2020, 4:19 PM

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does github store the wiki for my-repo in my-repo.wiki?

warm pollen Aug 4, 2020, 4:19 PM

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Isn't that a private repo?

idle forge Aug 4, 2020, 4:24 PM

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does github store the wiki for my-repo in my-repo.wiki?
@tawdry needle yes

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Isn't that a private repo?
@warm pollen the original repo is public.... but you have a point, maybe the .wiki repo is private.... but I still have access to it so the CI should work....

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 4:43 PM

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@idle forge maybe it's because you are using HTTPS repos rather than SSH. Unless you are passing in the TOKEN elsewhere, it's going to ask for a password and might fail silently

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@warm pollen the original repo is public.... but you have a point, maybe the .wiki repo is private.... but I still have access to it so the CI should work....
@idle forge You have access to it, but the CI system isn't necessarily logged in as you

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and it 99% of cases, it's NOT logged in as you by design

idle forge Aug 4, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Got it, will try that, Thanks @gusty willow

true vapor Aug 4, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Is there any reason to not just do everything as a root user in a Flask+Gunicorn docker container?

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 5:55 PM

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@true vapor will this be exposed to the internet?

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If so, there is one major reason not to do that ... and that is container escape (which is really easy to do as the root user)

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You can do everything except run gunicorn as root and be fine though

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though you might run into permissions issues

true vapor Aug 4, 2020, 6:07 PM

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yeah - I tried for a little while and ended up in permissions hell

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and right now it's not gonna be exposed to the internet - so I'll leave it as a problem to solve for the next guy

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Although I am curious - why does running it as root lead to container escape?

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 6:08 PM

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i tend to move all of my files to the container, then set up the group/permissions, then do the user, seems to work ok for most things

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when you run as root, it allows me to do all the things possible in the container when/if i pop your site. And escaping a container is just a google away with root access

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and it tends to be scary, because docker daemons run as root on the host system, so even a decently well versed script kiddie can own an entire box

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most will just run crypto miners lol, but it can be scarier

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which is why i don't run docker ... i either use Kata containers (which adds a VM layer to the abstraction) or, more commonly, I just use podman

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which doesn't have a daemon running as root

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but for anything running that is exposed to the internet, i suggest kata containers

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there are layers you can put in front (L7 firewalls and such) that limit the attack surface, but best to do all of the above lol (defense in depth)

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i even have admission controllers on my k8s clusters that don't allow containers that have an entrypoint that is running as root

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and there are other processes I run that watch for unexpected behaviour at the node level and will just flat kill and replace the node if something goes sideways

true vapor Aug 4, 2020, 6:17 PM

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That sounds like a lot of effort

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 6:17 PM

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sorry for the wall of text, but this is what I do lol

true vapor Aug 4, 2020, 6:18 PM

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What's the worst that can happen being horribly insecure?

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 6:18 PM

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unfortunately, security is a lot of effort

true vapor Aug 4, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Gdpr fines?

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Just a few millions

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 6:18 PM

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depends on what your app does

glad ferry Aug 4, 2020, 6:19 PM

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would someone possibly know how to use the IDE terminal for atom

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 6:19 PM

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9/10 times, it's the economic tolls that make companies want to do this ... not only one time GDPR fines, but a loss of revenue due to the loss of trust from your customer base

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and then there are ongoing "credit monitoring" costs and such to try to gain face again

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it's a lot less expensive to put in good practices from the onset, rather than trying to clean it up after a breach

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what do you mean exactly @glad ferry

glad ferry Aug 4, 2020, 6:22 PM

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have you ever used the text editor atom @gusty willow

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 6:22 PM

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yeah, although I've moved away from it. It's a pretty quick download though if it's a simple question lol

glad ferry Aug 4, 2020, 6:23 PM

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im trying to use the Platformio Ide Terminal package to run my python scripts seeing that Atom doesnt have a built in one to run input commands

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However when i go to run the program Atom is saying the files cant be found

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 6:25 PM

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never heard of that plugin, i've only ever used the atom-terminal one

glad ferry Aug 4, 2020, 6:25 PM

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with Atom, you cant run input required code. WOuld you happen to know how to?

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 6:26 PM

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looks like platformio is specifically tailored for C/C++ development

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this plugin has good documentation on how to use it: https://atom.io/packages/atom-terminal

Atom

atom-terminal

Open terminal in the current file's directory.

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if you need something that is free that has in integrated terminal, I suggest VSCode (https://code.visualstudio.com/)

glad ferry Aug 4, 2020, 6:28 PM

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i will check it out, thanks for the help

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 6:28 PM

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to get the terminal in VSCode, you just press ctrl+`

glad ferry Aug 4, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Im new to coding and getting this figured out has been annoying, I appreciate the help

gusty willow Aug 4, 2020, 6:29 PM

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no problem

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although atom is still viable, there are better options for IDEs out there

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personally, I use the jetbrains ones (IDEA Ultimate specifically), but it's not free 🤷

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PyCharm is a great one that has a free version though

glad ferry Aug 4, 2020, 6:30 PM

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the only problem im having with atom is its not wanting to recognize install locations, I think i might go with pyCharm

heavy knot Aug 4, 2020, 6:54 PM

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PS C:\Users\Mislav\Desktop\django> pipenv install --python 3.4
Virtualenv already exists!
Removing existing virtualenv…
Creating a virtualenv for this project…
Pipfile: C:\Users\Mislav\Desktop\django\Pipfile
Using c:/python34/python.exe (3.4.0) to create virtualenv…
[=== ] Creating virtual environment...created virtual environment CPython3.4.0.final.0-64 in 3007ms
  creator CPython3Windows(dest=C:\Users\Mislav\.virtualenvs\django-9O6aIxu9, clear=False, global=False)
  seeder FromAppData(download=False, pip=bundle, setuptools=bundle, wheel=bundle, via=copy, app_data_dir=C:\Users\Mislav\AppData\Local\pypa\virtualenv)
    added seed packages: pip==19.1.1, setuptools==43.0.0, wheel==0.33.6
  activators BashActivator,BatchActivator,FishActivator,PowerShellActivator,PythonActivator

Successfully created virtual environment!
Virtualenv location: C:\Users\Mislav\.virtualenvs\django-9O6aIxu9
Creating a Pipfile for this project…
Pipfile.lock not found, creating…
Locking [dev-packages] dependencies…
Locking [packages] dependencies…
Updated Pipfile.lock (fa2f51)!
Installing dependencies from Pipfile.lock (fa2f51)…
  ================================ 0/0 - 00:00:00
To activate this project's virtualenv, run pipenv shell.
Alternatively, run a command inside the virtualenv with pipenv run.
PS C:\Users\Mislav\Desktop\django> python --version
Python 3.8.5
PS C:\Users\Mislav\Desktop\django> python
Python 3.8.5 (tags/v3.8.5:580fbb0, Jul 20 2020, 15:43:08) [MSC v.1926 32 bit (Intel)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>>
KeyboardInterrupt
>>>
KeyboardInterrupt
>>>
KeyboardInterrupt
>>>
KeyboardInterrupt
>>>
KeyboardInterrupt
>>> quit()
PS C:\Users\Mislav\Desktop\django>

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Pretty much this

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Told it to target 3.4

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went to 3.8

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AHH ok I'm an idiot
I forgot it doesn't put you in the shell as soon as you install it

tepid citrus Aug 5, 2020, 12:20 AM

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this is actually pretty fuckin sick
https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/wsl

Developing in the Windows Subsystem for Linux with Visual Studio Code

Using Visual Studio Code Remote Development with the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL)

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this alone is enough for me to use vs code lol

ebon spire Aug 5, 2020, 1:27 AM

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in using pytest is there a watch mode? I mean re-running the test every time a file is updated

covert kindle Aug 5, 2020, 2:24 AM

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Yeah the WSL is awesome.Best of both worlds. Super handy for running sevices lile postgres/reddis. Pair it with Dockers and it gets even better.

vernal mirage Aug 5, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Could somebody explain to me how I get a docker image to run after pulling it down from docker hub? No matter how I "docker run" the image it always creates an "EXITED" container that can't be ran

devout quail Aug 5, 2020, 2:28 PM

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maybe it just finished, is the exit code 0 ?

gusty willow Aug 5, 2020, 3:55 PM

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@vernal mirage my guess is that it's a non blocking entrypoint

vernal mirage Aug 5, 2020, 3:56 PM

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Running it with "-it" (interactive mode) seemed to fix it?

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Need to read up on docker though tbh

gusty willow Aug 5, 2020, 3:58 PM

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@vernal mirage yeah, it just means interactive

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So if the entry point is say: a shell, then you have to use interactive

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I've seen others not really understand and try to run nginx as a daemon and then not know why the container doesn't run

vernal mirage Aug 5, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Am I right in thinking that from working in the shell I can still install and make as I would within the actual machine?

gusty willow Aug 5, 2020, 4:01 PM

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Yes, until the container stops

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Then when you launch it again, it's all gone unless you are doing some volume things

vernal mirage Aug 5, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Sweet, makes sense

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Thanks

gusty willow Aug 5, 2020, 4:02 PM

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I assume this is a Linux container?

vernal mirage Aug 5, 2020, 4:02 PM

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Yep an ubuntu container for automated planning

gusty willow Aug 5, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Just remember, things that rely on an init system (like systemd) don't work in containers ... Mostly because containers don't need an init system

vernal mirage Aug 5, 2020, 4:03 PM

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Ah okay, don't know much about init systems so will have to look into it

gusty willow Aug 5, 2020, 4:04 PM

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Init systems are what run daemons or services

lone linden Aug 5, 2020, 4:53 PM

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also proper signal handling

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and for reaping ps

wooden ibex Aug 5, 2020, 5:33 PM

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JSON, why would you make and install every time?

gusty willow Aug 5, 2020, 5:58 PM

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i am assuming it's more of just a testbed, but it's also, very much an assumption

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I will do that from time to time myself because I hate debian based OSs lol

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lol @lone linden, I didn't want to go too far down the rabbit hole (no pun intended @wooden ibex)

lone linden Aug 5, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Fair

sand thistle Aug 5, 2020, 7:14 PM

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hello

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im trying to deploy using gunicorn

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https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-serve-flask-applications-with-gunicorn-and-nginx-on-ubuntu-18-04

DigitalOcean

How To Serve Flask Applications with Gunicorn and Nginx on Ubuntu |...

In this guide, you will build a Python application using the Flask microframework on Ubuntu 18.04. The bulk of this article will be about how to set up the Gunicorn application server and how to launch the application and configure Nginx to act as a f

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this section

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Next, let’s create a file that will serve as the entry point for our application. This will tell our Gunicorn server how to interact with the application.

Let’s call the file wsgi.py:

nano ~/myproject/wsgi.py
In this file, let’s import the Flask instance from our application and then run it:

~/myproject/wsgi.py
from myproject import app

if __name__ == "__main__":
    app.run()```

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isn't this section supposed to be the .py file

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from myproject import app

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or is it supposed to be the directory containing the .py file

wraith lodge Aug 5, 2020, 8:44 PM

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when i am using pycharm my | turns to this

📎 unknown.png

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how can i fix it?

gilded remnant Aug 6, 2020, 12:01 AM

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@graceful hatch send here the problem

graceful hatch Aug 6, 2020, 12:02 AM

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mm well i installed python but my interpreter doesn't appear

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says that python is not installed

gilded remnant Aug 6, 2020, 12:03 AM

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@graceful hatch ask in #python-discussion this time

gusty willow Aug 6, 2020, 1:20 AM

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@sand thistle depends how you all is structured, but generally, I like a separate file in the root of my projects that is the wsgi entrypoint

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@wraith lodge this happens when you are doing an "insert", so either your keyboard is wonky or you have a keybinding issue

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@graceful hatch did you figure this out?

gusty lance Aug 6, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Hi, anyone knows how to remove the first few characters from every line in a non repetitive way? I'm using Atom text editor

📎 Capture.PNG

half sentinel Aug 6, 2020, 4:10 AM

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i don't use atom but you probably want to search for "atom column select"

gusty lance Aug 6, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Lol solved it with python re

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But still wonder if there's a way to do it with just atom

sleek grove Aug 6, 2020, 4:18 AM

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Most editors have some way to add cursors to multiple lines.

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https://www.sitepoint.com/12-favorite-atom-tips-and-shortcuts-to-improve-your-workflow/

12 Favorite Atom Tips and Shortcuts to Improve Your Workflow - Site...

Mike Street shares his favorite, time-saving tips, packages and shortcuts for GitHub's Atom code editor.

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Looks like its the first one

half sentinel Aug 6, 2020, 4:20 AM

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most editors let you do some kind of column select and delete

gusty lance Aug 6, 2020, 4:21 AM

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@sleek grove 👍

gusty willow Aug 6, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Most editors have a "find and replace" feature as well. And most allow regex.

cloud elbow Aug 6, 2020, 8:09 PM

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my flask app fails when I deploy it to heroku. it says not found create_app function but I can ctrl+click and go to the that function.also it works locally

my project structure -> https://hastebin.com/karotikixi.css

build error-log -> https://hastebin.com/luxiciroru.sql

wsgi.py -> https://hastebin.com/jimoragonu.py

cloud elbow Aug 6, 2020, 8:29 PM

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I fixed it

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my bad

digital axle Aug 7, 2020, 7:34 AM

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so I am trying to have my discord.py bot be online 24/7

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and started an instance hosted by Amazon

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using google and some guides, I was able to launch it and connect to it

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but I am a bit lost on what to do from this screen on:https://i.imgur.com/TPhTJtV.png

Imgur

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would anyone know a guide or something I could use to do stuff from here on?

rough marlin Aug 7, 2020, 8:51 AM

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@digital axle "up 24/7" can mean a lot of things

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that's a terminal

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a quick and dirty way that isn't crash-proof is using something like screen or tmux

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and just running it in there

digital axle Aug 7, 2020, 8:52 AM

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yeah Im currently installing the modules needed for it

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in the terminal

rough marlin Aug 7, 2020, 8:52 AM

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the better way might be to write a service specification

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idr how to do that for current systemd

heavy knot Aug 7, 2020, 8:59 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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when i try to click "install packaging tools"

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it asks for elevation twice, then throws that error

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Linux Mint 20, Pycharm 2020.2

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hm, installing python3-pip fixed it

south widget Aug 7, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Hi! Trying to get back into Python. What are the the current most popular solutions for managing different environments and dependencies? Using Linux.

gusty willow Aug 7, 2020, 3:39 PM

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@south widget depends on your use case, but generally, the two most popular envrionment managers are conda and pyenv ... for dependencies, I tend to use poetry so I haven't followed them as closely ... and as always, conda for the DS workloads lol

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testing wise, I will probably always use tox and pytest 🤷

sharp wren Aug 7, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Anyone have experience with Sphinx?

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I want to take all modules in my package, get the docstrings, and generate a doc page with it, but I have no clue how any of this works.

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I've also tried pdoc, and pydoc

gusty willow Aug 7, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Man, I haven't used Sphinx in years

tawdry needle Aug 7, 2020, 9:34 PM

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@sharp wren @ me in like.. 2 days. i can show you how to get set up with sphinx

covert kindle Aug 7, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Anyone know of a free product that will let you mount an sftp server like a windows drive?

Like Expandrive, but free. I'm breaking up with my smb shares and sticking with sftp. I use winSCP, but for my family something simple works best.

sharp wren Aug 7, 2020, 10:15 PM

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@tawdry needle I think I got the majority of it figured out, I found a library that does almost all of it

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Thanks though

tawdry needle Aug 7, 2020, 10:15 PM

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@sharp wren i mean, sphinx has an autostart or init thing you should use

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like sphinx init-project or something

sharp wren Aug 7, 2020, 10:15 PM

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That's the gist of what the library does

tawdry needle Aug 7, 2020, 10:15 PM

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but basically it's just a matter of calling sphinx-build on the right files

drowsy lava Aug 7, 2020, 11:43 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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anyone know why I can't cd into my D drive?

sharp wren Aug 8, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Just type D:

gusty willow Aug 8, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Yeah, you have to "switch" to the drive before navigating around. That's one of the things I hated about windows lol

covert kindle Aug 8, 2020, 3:04 AM

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This gets me every now and then when I need to use the cmd prompt because GitBash isn't working. I've looked up the solution so many times and for some reason I can never retain it.

tawdry needle Aug 8, 2020, 2:26 PM

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@drowsy lava theres a flag to allow you to cd across drives

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Look in cd /?

mild lance Aug 8, 2020, 2:51 PM

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how do I make the image in a readme stretch across the whole page?

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like here: https://github.com/python-discord/summer-code-jam-2020

GitHub

python-discord/summer-code-jam-2020

The repository for the 2020 summer code jam. Find more information at https://pythondiscord.com/pages/code-jams/code-jam-7/ - python-discord/summer-code-jam-2020

tawdry needle Aug 8, 2020, 2:54 PM

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its just a big banner i think

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[![Early Internet Theme Banner](early_internet_banner.png)](#)

no special code here

mild lance Aug 8, 2020, 2:55 PM

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ah, okay, thanks! i'll look at the dimensions

mild lance Aug 8, 2020, 3:14 PM

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huh, keeps shrinking https://github.com/thaniel-c/summer-code-jam-2020/tree/readme-dev/talented-tigers

GitHub

thaniel-c/summer-code-jam-2020

The repository for the 2020 summer code jam. Find more information at https://pythondiscord.com/pages/code-jams/code-jam-7/ - thaniel-c/summer-code-jam-2020

tawdry needle Aug 8, 2020, 3:15 PM

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huh

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what are the dimensions of your banner?

mild lance Aug 8, 2020, 3:16 PM

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exact same as the pydis one

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882x196

half sentinel Aug 8, 2020, 4:26 PM

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two things are different between yours and the one you linked

they have an empty link
there's is above any header

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so maybe try each of those things

tawdry needle Aug 8, 2020, 4:32 PM

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maybe specifically set it as an anchor

mild lance Aug 8, 2020, 5:22 PM

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alright, ill try that

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hmm, tried that, didnt work

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https://github.com/thaniel-c/summer-code-jam-2020/tree/readme-dev/talented-tigers

GitHub

thaniel-c/summer-code-jam-2020

The repository for the 2020 summer code jam. Find more information at https://pythondiscord.com/pages/code-jams/code-jam-7/ - thaniel-c/summer-code-jam-2020

summer tinsel Aug 8, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Hey so anyone who knows a lot about sublime, could you tell me why sublime and sublimerepl dont understand fstrings.

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Just ping me if you have an answer and/or solution as I will be busy this evening

tawdry needle Aug 8, 2020, 7:56 PM

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@summer tinsel is sublimerepl using the internal python? or your own python?

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you might also want to try installing PythonImproved for better syntax highlightin

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but my own version of sublime does appear to have f string support in the built in python syntax

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and my sublimerepl is using py 3.8 which i installed

orchid thorn Aug 8, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Has anyone used PySpark on Databricks(AWS) in Production? If so, what does your CI/CD pipeline look like for different environments and are there any community tools which can help in CI/CD of PySpark job scripts.

fallen phoenix Aug 8, 2020, 8:18 PM

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What ide would you suggest on i3-5010U 4gb ram?

shadow crow Aug 8, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Actual performance depends on many factors such as graphics card, RAM speed, disk speed etc.
VSCode with Python+Pyright+some other garbage like coloured parentheses runs just fine for me (I have similar hardware). PyCharm can be a tiny bit slow with large projects.
"IDE" and "text editor" is not a dichotomy and are pretty vague terms.

fallen phoenix Aug 8, 2020, 8:23 PM

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@shadow crow on my other pc, i tried once vs code with python, and took like 10 seconds to start a simple file with hello world

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Is it normal

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?

shadow crow Aug 8, 2020, 8:24 PM

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That might have to do with disk speed

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or RAM speed, but I doubt

fallen phoenix Aug 8, 2020, 8:24 PM

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Yeah but with vs or pycharm dosent have problems

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It runs fast

shadow crow Aug 8, 2020, 8:24 PM

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I don't know then

summer tinsel Aug 8, 2020, 9:08 PM

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@tawdry needle Im using whatever is set up by default. I checked what version sublime is using with this:

import sys
print(sys.version)

and got

3.8.5 (tags/v3.8.5:580fbb0, Jul 20 2020, 15:43:08) [MSC v.1926 32 bit (Intel)]

tawdry needle Aug 8, 2020, 9:14 PM

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then it should work with f strings

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@orchid thorn fwiw i dont even know how to test pyspark code correctly, let alone set up a ci/cd pipelie

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curious if you have any experience with that

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just "run a local pyspark cluster"?

summer tinsel Aug 8, 2020, 9:16 PM

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https://gyazo.com/5f372fcaab8f74a75fa7363b8a3ca348

Gyazo

▶ Play video

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same thing happens with repl

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f"Hello World"

even that doesnt show up in sublime

orchid thorn Aug 8, 2020, 9:24 PM

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@tawdry needle I am not worried about testing pyspark code right now. I am more interested in setting up a git project that can take configuration and pyspark scripts and deploy them to different Databricks accounts (dev/staging/prod). I currently just have one account and am using that for explore Databricks; but I need to productionize it at some point and was wondering if someone has experience with it and how people have done it.

tawdry needle Aug 8, 2020, 9:24 PM

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hm

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wouldnt you normally use Databricks Jobs for that

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@summer tinsel it looks like sublime is giving you f string highlighting. im not sure what your problem is

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you arent running your file in a repl, you're running the whole file at once

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you don't have a print() anywhere so it's not printing

summer tinsel Aug 8, 2020, 9:25 PM

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oh, then why does it print in cmd

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Sorry im new to f string

tawdry needle Aug 8, 2020, 9:26 PM

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because the repl emits the repr of the result of the last-executed expression

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it has nothing to do with f-strings

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type 1 into the repl

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it prints 1

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put 1 into a .py file and run it

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it prints nothing

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that's what you are experiencing here

orchid thorn Aug 8, 2020, 9:29 PM

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@tawdry needle Yes, exactly, the Databricks Jobs is just a REST api and I would have to build all the tooling to be able to place all the config (job/cluster/pools/schedules/etc...) in code on git.
I am looking for something as robust as Serverless or Cloudformation framework but for Spark.

tawdry needle Aug 8, 2020, 9:29 PM

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ah, im not aware of anything like that

topaz aspen Aug 8, 2020, 9:34 PM

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anyone had issues trying to set things up on a personal GCP account?

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i just want a GPU, and keep getting my requests to increase my limit refused, and I can't get in touch with a sales rep

topaz aspen Aug 8, 2020, 10:19 PM

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ping me if you response please

heavy knot Aug 8, 2020, 10:31 PM

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How do I make sure that after the terminal executes all the python code it doesn't close?

topaz aspen Aug 8, 2020, 10:39 PM

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@heavy knot python -i <script>

heavy knot Aug 8, 2020, 10:39 PM

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when I open the .py file and run all the code it closes and I want it to stay open

topaz aspen Aug 8, 2020, 10:47 PM

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@heavy knot i've no idea what you're talking about

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@heavy knot if you run from the terminal then -i sounds like the flag that you want

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( i don't know why you're opening the file for this at all though )

heavy knot Aug 8, 2020, 10:48 PM

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i don't use terminal i open the .py file at once

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when i open the .py file and all the code is executed it closes

topaz aspen Aug 8, 2020, 10:48 PM

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well you said terminal - i dont' know what you're opening in, you need to give more info

heavy knot Aug 8, 2020, 10:51 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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I'm opening that file

topaz aspen Aug 8, 2020, 10:52 PM

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sorry - i run from terminal i'm not sure what you're doing, hopefully someone else does

heavy knot Aug 8, 2020, 10:54 PM

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ok

frank compass Aug 8, 2020, 11:05 PM

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If the code is done and has nothing else to do, why do you want it to keep running ?

heavy knot Aug 8, 2020, 11:11 PM

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is that I want to see something the code does and I want it to stay open and when I press a key it closes

frank compass Aug 8, 2020, 11:13 PM

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You should actually run it from a terminal then, even when the code is done you'll still have your prints and everything else showing

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https://www.cs.bu.edu/courses/cs108/guides/runpython.html

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Look at the last section

drowsy lava Aug 8, 2020, 11:25 PM

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@drowsy lava theres a flag to allow you to cd across drives
@tawdry needle DoubleFelix's solution helped

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doing D: got me there

formal bluff Aug 9, 2020, 12:15 AM

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how can i run ansible in a virtual env?

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 12:56 AM

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do I need 2 docker images, 1 for windows, 1 for linux if I want my code to be runnable cross platform? (through docker)

frank compass Aug 9, 2020, 1:02 AM

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No, that's the point of docker, it'll run the same on any platform

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 1:07 AM

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thanks!

gusty willow Aug 9, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Although windows containers don't run on Linux all that well

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So build it with Linux containers lol

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 2:16 AM

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👍 also, a docker tag is just a name for the image, right?

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 2:49 AM

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@mild lance Yes, you will need two images if you want to run Windows/Linux containers

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Few people run Windows containers and even fewer still can only handle Windows containers

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so if you just provide a Linux Container for Python, you should be fine

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 2:51 AM

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@wooden ibex so this will be fine? FROM python:3.7-buster (for the version)

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and people uring windows and *nix systems will be fine?

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 2:52 AM

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sure, but buster is Debian

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so you will need to be run Linux on container host

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for "Windows" that means running Linux VM

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 2:54 AM

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Is there any version that will be fine for both os's?

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 2:54 AM

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not docker

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or providing docker image for Linux, "FROM python:3.7-buster"

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and docker imaage for Windows, "FROM python:3.7-windowsservercore-ltsc2016"

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as someone who runs alot of Windows Server, we are used to running Linux VMs for occasional Linux software

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it depends on your target market

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"Few people run Windows containers and even fewer still can only handle Windows containers"

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 2:56 AM

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code jam judges lol

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 2:57 AM

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I would check with Code Jam but I'd be shocked if any Judges can't handle Linux Docker

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I could and I code on Windows 10 Pro

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 2:57 AM

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👍

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where do docker images get stored?

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 2:58 AM

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if you have Win10 Pro, you can install Docker which installs Linux VM to host docker on

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somewhere, you should put docker image in repo

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or just give them dockerfile and bash file to build it

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or even docker-compose

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so they can do "docker-compose up

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 2:59 AM

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if you have Win10 Pro, you can install Docker which installs Linux VM to host docker on
@wooden ibex like, vmare?

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 3:00 AM

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sure

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it uses HyperV but close enough

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 3:00 AM

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where does it install it?

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 3:00 AM

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install what?

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 3:01 AM

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like, is it a full on vm

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 3:01 AM

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are you trying to distribute the docker image?

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if so, no

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 3:01 AM

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are you trying to distribute the docker image?
@wooden ibex distribute something docker

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 3:01 AM

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you either upload your image to docker repository OR you provide code with dockerfile

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and instructions on how to do it

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or host it yourself

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 3:02 AM

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alright, so assuming they don't have a vm, I need 2 dockerfiles?

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 3:03 AM

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just ask

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 3:03 AM

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if they have vms?

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 3:03 AM

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f1re appears active in summer-code-jam

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so maybe he can answer

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 3:03 AM

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just ask
@wooden ibex ask what?

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 3:03 AM

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"Hey f1re, can we assume that everyone will be able to handle Linux Docker container?"

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if so, one dockerfile and you are done

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 3:04 AM

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gonna copy and paste that lol

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 3:04 AM

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like I said, most serious python programmers, even if they run Windows, should be able to run Linux docker containers

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I can

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 3:04 AM

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thanks for all of the help :D

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 3:05 AM

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I develop on Windows but deploy my Python bot on Linux using Linux Python containers

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 3:08 AM

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@wooden ibex https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/728010915580084336/741855128163975178 just to check, this is a no, right?

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 3:08 AM

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Yep, that's misunderstanding

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Docker Desktop does magic sauce to make it appear that it's running Linux Container on Windows but it's really Linux VM

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Yea, like f1re has never seen Windows container

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it's because of how rare they are, we run them at work

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 3:10 AM

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so, they just need to have docker desktop and one dockerfile will be fine?

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 3:10 AM

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looking at message history, you should provide easy way to run your app

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so make sure you have instructions like docker build . then docker run

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or docker-compose where they can do "docker-compose up"

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version: '3'
services:
  drblistener:
    build:
        context: .
        dockerfile: discord_listener.dockerfile
    image: 'drblistener:latest'
    restart: always```

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that's a basic docker-compose file

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to run it, it's docker-compose up -d --build

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it will build the container then run it

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still need to build the dockerfile though

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 3:13 AM

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k, so, do I give one dockerfile and say to use docker desktop on windows and normal docker on linux

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 3:13 AM

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no

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just provide dockerfile, instructions on building your dockerfile and running your dockerfile

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f1re seems to indicate everyone will assume it's Linux Docker

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which is smart thing

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 3:15 AM

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alright, so my teammates need a linux vm?

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 3:15 AM

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no

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https://docs.docker.com/docker-for-windows/install/

Docker Documentation

Install Docker Desktop on Windows

Docker Desktop for Windows is the Community version of Docker for Microsoft Windows. You can download Docker Desktop for Windows from Docker Hub. This page contains information on installing Docker...

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 3:17 AM

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so, docker desktop is needed to use a linux dockerfile on windows (didn't meak linux) @wooden ibex

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 3:20 AM

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no

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if you are running Linux, it's just install docker and docker-compose

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followed by docker up

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 3:20 AM

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*windows

wooden ibex Aug 9, 2020, 3:26 AM

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if you are on Windows, you install docker desktop which installs all docker tools and assuming you are set to use Linux (default) it redirects all docker commands into Linux

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 3:44 AM

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👍 will wsl 2 work as well?

covert kindle Aug 9, 2020, 3:52 AM

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Yes it'll work. Docker desktop relies on WSL2. It won't let you install it until you've setup WSL2.

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You also need to have a pretty recent version of windows. 19xx. It'll tell you if you need to update first.

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 6:30 AM

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thanks! :D

heavy knot Aug 9, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Hey, I am really new to python and I am getting this error I don't know how to fix. https://i.imgur.com/s7ETMrX.png Would anyone be able to help out?

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mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 2:31 PM

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@heavy knot are you on windows, mac, or linux?

heavy knot Aug 9, 2020, 2:31 PM

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win10 64bit

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 2:31 PM

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run pip install numpy in the terminal

heavy knot Aug 9, 2020, 2:32 PM

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pip: The term 'pip' is not recognized as the name of a cmdlet, function, script file, or operable program. Check the spelling of the name, or if a path was included, verify that the path is correct and try again.

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Did you exclude it from your install by any chance?

heavy knot Aug 9, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Maybe, do I download it off python.org?

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 2:35 PM

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yes

heavy knot Aug 9, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Okay, I'll reinstall then

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 2:36 PM

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Make sure to click Add to Path box on the bottom of the screen when yiu install it

heavy knot Aug 9, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Yeap, thank you!

mild lance Aug 9, 2020, 2:38 PM

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👍

honest lily Aug 9, 2020, 7:17 PM

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does anyone know a good and comfortable vscode theme for large programming sessions?

heavy knot Aug 9, 2020, 7:23 PM

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Personal preference.. I use overnight/ariake dark/dracula @honest lily

covert kindle Aug 9, 2020, 7:41 PM

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definitely personal. Just look for easy on the eyes. My choice is Ayu.

solid ivy Aug 9, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Darcula or zenburn, while wearing blue light-filtering glasses

covert kindle Aug 9, 2020, 8:35 PM

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I was going to buy a pair, but then read that they were a scam. The real problem is that the screens cause you to blink less often and therefore your eyes get irritated and damaged. Just remember to blink and you'll be fine.

solid ivy Aug 9, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Well, either they're a scam and I've been duped by my buyer's remorse (though they weren't even that expensive), or the slight filtering of blue light has caused my eyes to feel less strain. I've been using them for about 2 weeks and my eyes do not feel as tired as they used to. I've been aware of blinking frequency being potentially problematic for eye strain for years and have made attempts to blink more frequently, but I don't believe my blinking patterns have changed since I started wearing them.

gusty willow Aug 10, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Personally, I choose a solarized theme. I don't really like dark themes lol

sage perch Aug 10, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Idk if this should go here but I'm wanting to make an encryption script

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I've looked around and I cant find anyone else thats done it in python

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If someone could point me to a module or some documentation it'd be gr8

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@ or dm me if anyone knows of anything

gusty willow Aug 10, 2020, 1:46 PM

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@sage perch we need more details in order to help.

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@sage perch at least personally, I have all but stopped helping people with everything but web crypto due to a lot of unscrupulous people thinking they can make a quick buck with a novel ransomware