#tools-and-devops | Python | Page 41

true vapor Feb 26, 2020, 10:20 AM

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The stuff that you actually need to know for Pycharm is pretty much just one button

civic hound Feb 26, 2020, 10:20 AM

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the problem lies in how the brain works, how you save new memories

true vapor Feb 26, 2020, 10:21 AM

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but being distracted by another 100 is bad

civic hound Feb 26, 2020, 10:21 AM

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you are not able to mentally focus on more then 5-9 pieces of information. no matter who you are

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this is how short-term memory works

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you see this time and time again in all facets of human nature when it comes to teaching.

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when you know what x or y means, then its no big deal, but when everything is new..

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look at a photo of a Boing 747s cockpit, its pretty overwhelming.

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does not matter if the plane can be flown by a few buttons or not.

true vapor Feb 26, 2020, 10:24 AM

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I'm still not entirely convinced. Someone who is used to using tools like Photoshop, or even Excel, which have a million in your face features that most users don't know how to use are pretty good at tuning out the visual noise in interfaces. And the thing that you do need in pycharm is very intuitive, its the play/run button

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which is a universal symbol

civic hound Feb 26, 2020, 10:25 AM

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have you ever thought excel to a beginner that does not know anything before? I have.

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moving the mouse, clicking takes up 2 of the 5-9 slots of information they have available

true vapor Feb 26, 2020, 10:26 AM

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No, but thats kinda my point. For someone who is used to using computers/advanced programs, starting with Pycharm might be fine. But for someone who isn't already a power user to some extent, it is going to be too noisy

civic hound Feb 26, 2020, 10:26 AM

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on a bad day if you show them 4 things, they will forget half of it

true vapor Feb 26, 2020, 10:26 AM

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But I take your point and don't think I'd reccomend Pycharm to someone unless I thought they would be able to jump into it semi-effectively

civic hound Feb 26, 2020, 10:26 AM

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yes, but a beginner are not used to anything of these kind of programs

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thats what make them a beginner

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any that knows their way around on a computer can ofc start with a more advance editor

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but this is due to the fact im saying.

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beginners use all their mental capacity on visual noise (or verbose visual inputs)

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heck, in the help channels people fall apart if they have to open the terminal for something

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if I explain two many concepts at once, it gets forgotten in a few moments

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if i paste 5 lines of code, they fall apart.

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if i do the five lines of code one at the time, they are with me.

true vapor Feb 26, 2020, 10:47 AM

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Yeah, I definitely take your point. I wouldn't recommend PyCharm in a vacuum again

pure pulsar Feb 26, 2020, 12:11 PM

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vim has the least visual clutter, we should teach that 🙂

gloomy hemlock Feb 26, 2020, 5:27 PM

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https://github.com/Netflix/dispatch

GitHub

Netflix/dispatch

All of the ad-hoc things you're doing to manage incidents today, done for you, and much more! - Netflix/dispatch

heavy knot Feb 26, 2020, 7:36 PM

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I'm working with AWS ECS.

Should I have two containers: 1st is based on Docker image of my web chat app and 2nd is chatbot ML model docker image that returns answers

OR should I have 1 container that is built on docker image of both combined?

heavy knot Feb 26, 2020, 9:09 PM

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why does systemctl only show you like 4 lines and you have to use the arrow keys to scroll?

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is there a way to just print everything?

delicate gorge Feb 26, 2020, 10:03 PM

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systemctl what?

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which subcommand

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besides you dont have to use arrow keys there is also jk

heavy knot Feb 26, 2020, 11:06 PM

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nvm It's my terminal, not systemctl

topaz aspen Feb 27, 2020, 12:04 AM

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anyone know if it's possible to have an excel file update when the file on the disk changes?

atomic nacelle Feb 27, 2020, 7:44 PM

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So I read up on flit and poetry, and as far as I can tell poetry makes flit redundant. flit is basically an installer for your module, and poetry can do the same but can also manage dependencies and other stuff. Is that correct or am I missing something?

heavy knot Feb 27, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Docker-compose - https://github.com/xtrc/rasa-docker/blob/master/docker-compose.yml
Dockerfile - https://github.com/xtrc/rasa-docker/blob/master/conf/rasa/Dockerfile

Can someone explain to me when the production phase comes (AWS) what should I do with docker-compose?

I understand that I can build an image from Dockerfile and push it to AWS ECR and then connect it later on with AWS ECS.

But what should I do with docker-compose when in production phase?

GitHub

xtrc/rasa-docker

Contribute to xtrc/rasa-docker development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub

xtrc/rasa-docker

Contribute to xtrc/rasa-docker development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub

xtrc/rasa-docker

Contribute to xtrc/rasa-docker development by creating an account on GitHub.

obtuse saddle Feb 27, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Do you know how to make Pycharm see right expected type when decorator effectively changes the type signature?

acoustic epoch Feb 28, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Hello, i get remote: Invalid username or password. fatal: Authentication failed forwhen i try to run git outside pycharm

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But i did enter my valid name and pass

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I think there is a problem with my ssh

warm pollen Feb 28, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Do you have something after the for?

acoustic epoch Feb 28, 2020, 2:32 PM

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My password

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And username @warm pollen

warm pollen Feb 28, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Do you use 2FA?

acoustic epoch Feb 28, 2020, 2:45 PM

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Yeah

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Lemme make sure

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Yeah

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@warm pollen

warm pollen Feb 28, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Okay, you have to use your github username as your login and an access token as your password

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Yes, that’s weird, I know

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https://help.github.com/en/github/authenticating-to-github/creating-a-personal-access-token-for-the-command-line

Creating a personal access token for the command line - GitHub Help

You can create a personal access token and use it in place of a password when performing Git operations over HTTPS with Git on the command line or the API.

blazing condor Feb 28, 2020, 2:58 PM

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i though that was only over https

warm pollen Feb 28, 2020, 2:58 PM

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Oh wait, you said ssh?

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But why would you have a password for ssh connection?

blazing condor Feb 28, 2020, 2:59 PM

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he said this above

I think there is a problem with my ssh

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i'm not sure

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probably meant there was a problem with his terminal or something

steel perch Feb 28, 2020, 3:09 PM

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i'm trying to make files in a folder untracked in git, but keeping the folder tracked, not sure how

warm pollen Feb 28, 2020, 3:09 PM

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Keep the folder but not the content?

steel perch Feb 28, 2020, 3:09 PM

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yeah

warm pollen Feb 28, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Is there at least one file in the folder that you want to keep?

blazing condor Feb 28, 2020, 3:10 PM

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you'd have to have a placeholder file being tracked i think

steel perch Feb 28, 2020, 3:10 PM

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nope

warm pollen Feb 28, 2020, 3:10 PM

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I don’t think you can, but what is really the point?

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You could just re-create the file

steel perch Feb 28, 2020, 3:11 PM

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well i could create a placeholder... Done!

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i want to make my script automatically create files in there, but when people check the github i want them to see the folder lol

warm pollen Feb 28, 2020, 3:12 PM

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You should have the script generate the folder then

blazing condor Feb 28, 2020, 3:12 PM

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you could create the folder in your script -oh

warm pollen Feb 28, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Having just a placeholder file is really bad practice

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Hehe

blazing condor Feb 28, 2020, 3:12 PM

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too fast

warm pollen Feb 28, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Plus I’m on mobile :D

steel perch Feb 28, 2020, 3:13 PM

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actually

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now that i think about it, i want to leave an example lemon_thinking

warm pollen Feb 28, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Again, you probably don’t want to leave an example in the output folder

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You’d loose the ability to CTRL + A the folder

steel perch Feb 28, 2020, 3:14 PM

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alright, thanks!

acoustic epoch Feb 28, 2020, 4:11 PM

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@warm pollen I tried a token

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Mhm

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But how can i save it so i won't need to paste it everytime

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I tried saving globally, but

lost rock Feb 28, 2020, 4:14 PM

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common practice is to place an empty .gitkeep file in otherwise empty folders that you need to be preserved in git anyway

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that name doesn't have any special effects or properties, it's just a convention to hint that this file is explicitly a placeholder for that single purpose.

maiden breach Feb 28, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Is this the right topic to ask for some help/advice with RTD parsing of my Sphinx documentation?

stable cloak Feb 28, 2020, 5:46 PM

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@maiden breach What's your question about it?

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Usually better to just ask and if it's not the right channel we'll guide you to the right one

maiden breach Feb 28, 2020, 5:51 PM

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@stable cloak if you look at the build on this page: https://readthedocs.org/projects/eldonationtracker/builds/10518492/ you'll see that it errors out looking for libpulse-mainloop-glib.so.0. Far as I can tell, that's a pulse audio (linux audio system) shared library; not something you'd expect to pip install. The documentation builds fine on my computer (which makes sense, I've got pulse audio installed). I'd like to be able to audodoc the two files that fail on this: call_tracker and gui, but I'm not sure what to do to fix that. I thought that pulling in this line (see diff https://github.com/djotaku/ELDonationTracker/commit/45e40f0cc6b0cd87cd8e1052de7d16eac0fe6506#diff-afe10607ade7d0654fb1f09ec0b93c86 ) where I pull in the config file would mean that eveythign is protected by if name == "main and therefore it should be fine.

GitHub

Merge pull request #76 from djotaku/devel · djotaku/ELDonationTrack...

Adding update checker and documenation

tawny temple Feb 28, 2020, 6:46 PM

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It's likely that the shared library is being loaded upon the import of one of the modules

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Is it not feasible to install the library as a build step? That may be a simpler fix

maiden breach Feb 28, 2020, 6:56 PM

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@tawny temple your first sentence is what I guessed was happening. But I have no idea how to do the second step with read the docs

tawny temple Feb 28, 2020, 6:59 PM

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I'm not familiar with rtd but I did a little digging for you

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https://docs.readthedocs.io/en/stable/faq.html#i-get-import-errors-on-libraries-that-depend-on-c-modules

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Looks like there is some sort of way to mock imports

maiden breach Feb 28, 2020, 7:18 PM

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thanks! It's one of those things I should have found, but I wasn't sure what to search for

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thanks a ton

remote ruin Feb 29, 2020, 4:45 AM

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its probably pointless to ask, but does anyone here use ghidra with FlatLaf dark theme?

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or any custom LaF for that matter

kind chasm Feb 29, 2020, 4:55 AM

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In a .gitignore, isn't directory/** supposed to ignore the whole directory and subdirectory?

twin hull Feb 29, 2020, 7:32 PM

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thorny shell Feb 29, 2020, 7:33 PM

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dunno what you mean

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pretty sure github doesn't insert a copyright notice into your files, if that's what you mean

twin hull Feb 29, 2020, 7:34 PM

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@thorny shell See https://github.com/thephpleague/oauth2-server/blob/master/src/CodeChallengeVerifiers/CodeChallengeVerifierInterface.php

GitHub

thephpleague/oauth2-server

A spec compliant, secure by default PHP OAuth 2.0 Server - thephpleague/oauth2-server

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For example

thorny shell Feb 29, 2020, 7:35 PM

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ok, I see a file that has some copyright info in it. Do you think that Github put that copyright info there?

twin hull Feb 29, 2020, 7:35 PM

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np, I ask why

thorny shell Feb 29, 2020, 7:35 PM

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I have no idea what you mean

topaz aspen Feb 29, 2020, 8:18 PM

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why would i use merge over rebase 🤔
typically i use merge, and haven't thought much about it, but having just used rebase instead it seems to make more sense as the ordering is preserved.
I can't really think why I would want to lose this ordering ( as happens with a merge ) though

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hrm, i need a pastebin

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!paste

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acoustic epoch Feb 29, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Hello, anybody knows how to apply colored logs in pycharm's terminal?

topaz aspen Feb 29, 2020, 8:22 PM

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OK I have a re-producible example : https://paste.pythondiscord.com/kiqufikola.py

finite fulcrum Feb 29, 2020, 8:24 PM

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pycharm's builtin terminal supports ansi codes

topaz aspen Feb 29, 2020, 8:24 PM

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having run the above script - then run

git merge branch_one; git log --oneline

the output is:

90a4625 (HEAD -> master) Merge branch 'branch_one'
48178f2 added file 10 to master
020d321 (branch_one) update file 1 branch one
2c186ae added file 8 to master
f675a28 added file 4 to branch_one
87b7b40 added file 7 to master
05a7701 added file 3 to master
6ab2537 added file 5 to master
6de52e3 added file 2 to master
427dd4e added file 1 to master

if instead one does

git rebase branch_one; git log --oneline

the output is

db6804c (HEAD -> master) added file 10 to master
aa00a80 added file 8 to master
181b6b4 added file 7 to master
537496f added file 5 to master
b9def89 (branch_one) update file 1 branch one
080402f added file 4 to branch_one
1aebf0a added file 3 to master
c031e9d added file 2 to master
fef96a2 added file 1 to master

which seems to make more sense with the ordering?

acoustic epoch Feb 29, 2020, 8:26 PM

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@finite fulcrum Mhm, weird, my logs are all red

finite fulcrum Feb 29, 2020, 8:27 PM

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is it being sent to stderr?

acoustic epoch Feb 29, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Is it related?

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Im unsure, i think no

@finite fulcrum

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To this ^

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logging.basicConfig(
    handlers=[LoggingHandler(), logging.FileHandler(filename="logs/log.log")],
    level=logging.INFO,
    format="%(asctime)s | %(name)s | %(levelname)s | %(funcName)s:%(lineno)d | %(message)s",
    datefmt="%H:%M:%S",
)```

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These are my settings for now

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I don't think that's stderr

finite fulcrum Feb 29, 2020, 8:31 PM

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How does the whole logger setup look like?

acoustic epoch Feb 29, 2020, 8:32 PM

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Basically this

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I removed the other thing i didn't need

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Mhm

finite fulcrum Feb 29, 2020, 8:33 PM

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LoggingHandler being?

acoustic epoch Feb 29, 2020, 8:33 PM

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logging.StreamHandler

finite fulcrum Feb 29, 2020, 8:34 PM

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!d logging.StreamHandler

rancid schoonerBOT Feb 29, 2020, 8:34 PM

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`logging.StreamHandler`

class logging.StreamHandler(stream=None)```
Returns a new instance of the [`StreamHandler`](#logging.StreamHandler "logging.StreamHandler") class. If *stream* is specified, the instance will use it for logging output; otherwise, *sys.stderr* will be used.

`emit`(*record*)[](#logging.StreamHandler.emit "Permalink to this definition") If a formatter is specified, it is used to format the record. The record is then written to the stream with a terminator. If exception information is present, it is formatted using [`traceback.print_exception()`](traceback.html#traceback.print_exception "traceback.print_exception") and appended to the stream.... [read more](https://docs.python.org/3/library/logging.handlers.html#logging.StreamHandler)

acoustic epoch Feb 29, 2020, 8:36 PM

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traceback.print_exception() is the problem

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Im quite sure

finite fulcrum Feb 29, 2020, 8:36 PM

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If stream is specified, the instance will use it for logging output; otherwise, sys.stderr will be used

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you're printing to stderr unless you specified stdout

acoustic epoch Feb 29, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Yeah i will just use stdout

finite fulcrum Feb 29, 2020, 8:37 PM

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@topaz aspen totally not experienced with git, but rebasing seems like something you'd do alone as it can look nice; but merges on anything larger where other people can be pushing commits in prs

acoustic epoch Feb 29, 2020, 8:39 PM

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class LoggingHandler(logging.StreamHandler):
    def __init__(self):
        super().__init__(stream=sys.stdout)```

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Huh

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Still

finite fulcrum Feb 29, 2020, 8:42 PM

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print_exception also does stderr but that shouldn't affectn normal logigng

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and I'm unsure where you're using it

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(maybe more suited to a help channel instead of here)

acoustic epoch Feb 29, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Yeah

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Hey @tawny temple I'm having an issue with opening files and systemctl
Basically if I go into the repo root and type python run.py it works fine, but when I run systemctl --user restart offthedialbot it says it can't open the file

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the file is in the root of the repo

tawny temple Mar 1, 2020, 2:09 AM

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How's the service running it?

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 2:12 AM

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Well I just went into the service file, and this line:
ExecStart=/home/LeptoSpira/offthedialbot/.venv/bin/python /home/LeptoSpira/offthedialbot/run.py

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I'm assuming the working directory isn't where I want it to be?

tawny temple Mar 1, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Oh I misunderstood

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It runs the code right? The problem is with open() in python?

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 2:13 AM

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ye

tawny temple Mar 1, 2020, 2:14 AM

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If you use a relative path with open then it's relative to the current working directory, which will not necessarily be the same directory as the current module

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 2:15 AM

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I just do with open('config.yml')

tawny temple Mar 1, 2020, 2:16 AM

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Either use an absolute path or set the cwd in the service with WorkingDirectory=. It can go right next to execstart

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 2:16 AM

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I'll use WorkingDirectory

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does that go inside... [Service]?

tawny temple Mar 1, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Well yes, that's where ExecStart is.

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 2:18 AM

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right ok

topaz aspen Mar 1, 2020, 2:47 AM

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anyone use tmux with osx?

i find that all the resizing commands and stuff are system defaults, meaning i end up moving views about ( or whatever osx calls them ) instead of resizing tmux panes, not sure if i'm missing something obvious though

plush tree Mar 1, 2020, 2:53 AM

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You can change the defaults in the config file

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 8:40 AM

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@clever raven thats the problem I was tryin to configure it but idk I've Python 3.8 and its not workin

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clever raven Mar 1, 2020, 8:41 AM

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it's probably not in your PATH

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 8:42 AM

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here Sir

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brittle tide Mar 1, 2020, 8:42 AM

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if you run the command python in your terminal does anything show up?

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 8:43 AM

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yeah it works there

clever raven Mar 1, 2020, 8:43 AM

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did you restart sublime after installing it?

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 8:43 AM

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yes Sir and I've reinstalled it for 3 time

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also I'm having issues with Pycharm

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oh and one thing whenever I follow the given link it redirects me to Python 3.7 not 3.8

clever raven Mar 1, 2020, 8:45 AM

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hmm. well, when Sublime tries to execute your code, it just runs python. The message you're seeing (about how you can install it in the Microsoft Store) is what windows 10 will display by default now when python isn't installed.

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did you install it with that Microsoft Store install, or from https://python.org ?

Python.org

Welcome to Python.org

The official home of the Python Programming Language

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I don't know if 3.8 is on Microsoft Store yet

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I'd check but I'm not a Windows user

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 8:47 AM

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Sir I've downloaded it from the official site not from Microsoft store

clever raven Mar 1, 2020, 8:47 AM

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please stop calling me Sir.

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the official site sounds like the right approach. it's weird this isn't working for you, then.

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 8:48 AM

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I can call you Sir cuz I'm newbie also only 19

clever raven Mar 1, 2020, 8:48 AM

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you could, but I'd prefer if you didn't.

brittle tide Mar 1, 2020, 8:48 AM

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if it is working in your terminal at least there is a nice package for sublime called terminus that will open a terminal instance inside of sublime this is what i use to run python in sublime and here is a nice easy to follow setup video to get it woking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fjCMYX4Abs

YouTube

DevInsideYou

Terminus - Cross Platform Terminal Emulator for Sublime Text

In this video we will set up and configure Terminus - an awesome cross platform terminal emulator for my favorite cross platform text editor - Sublime Text.

Terminus is here:
https://packagecontrol.io/packages/Terminus

Fira Code is here:
https://github.com/tonsky/FiraCode

S...

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heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 8:49 AM

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okay I'll try that but I need a lil bit help with Pycharm

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don't mind its like a habit if I call you Sir

clever raven Mar 1, 2020, 8:50 AM

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are you using the latest sublime text? did you restart your computer?

You could try to edit the Python\Python.sublime-build package to point directly at the 3.8 executable as a last resort, that's where sublime gets the information about what to do

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what's the issue with PyCharm?

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 8:51 AM

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1 sec

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its not defining the turtle word or module whatever it is

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frozen coral Mar 1, 2020, 8:57 AM

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done is not a function that exists in the global namespace

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I think ^ is the correct way of saying it

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what do you except done() to do for you here?

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:03 AM

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its do end the import code

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@frozen coral you have any idea how to import the Turtle in Pycharm?

frozen coral Mar 1, 2020, 9:09 AM

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you did int the first line

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no need to use done()

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not sure what langauge you are getting that from

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:10 AM

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okay lemme try that

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I'm tryin Python ofc

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@frozen coral

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frozen coral Mar 1, 2020, 9:12 AM

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get rid of the import *

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:12 AM

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idk how?

frozen coral Mar 1, 2020, 9:12 AM

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select and delete

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:13 AM

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what that suppose to be ?

frozen coral Mar 1, 2020, 9:13 AM

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it means import everythign from the turle lib into the global namespace

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:14 AM

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can you do that and send me S.S here?

frozen coral Mar 1, 2020, 9:14 AM

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s.s?

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screenshot?

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no, you do it, it is not that hard

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:16 AM

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please I don't even understand what you said thats why I'm asking

frozen coral Mar 1, 2020, 9:16 AM

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the first line

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delete import *

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the first line should be only import turtle

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:17 AM

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frozen coral Mar 1, 2020, 9:18 AM

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rename your file

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:18 AM

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dude its not defining turtle nothing is wrong with "from import"

frozen coral Mar 1, 2020, 9:18 AM

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you are importing your own file

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which then imports itself in import, and so on

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:20 AM

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Now

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pure pulsar Mar 1, 2020, 9:21 AM

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Well you also need to change it on the command line

frozen coral Mar 1, 2020, 9:21 AM

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did you install the turtle lib?

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:21 AM

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okay I got something I guess the main problem wait ....

frozen coral Mar 1, 2020, 9:21 AM

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does python 3 even have that?

pure pulsar Mar 1, 2020, 9:22 AM

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You started to run turtle.py, not Nikk.py

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:22 AM

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I think config file is missing

frozen coral Mar 1, 2020, 9:23 AM

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is turtle maybe with an uppercase instead?

pure pulsar Mar 1, 2020, 9:23 AM

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Did you configure your project before?

frozen coral Mar 1, 2020, 9:23 AM

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i doubt you even have turtle installed

pure pulsar Mar 1, 2020, 9:23 AM

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It's not about turtle

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It's the project config

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Did you configure your project before?
Nope Sir

pure pulsar Mar 1, 2020, 9:24 AM

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How does it know what to do when you click the run button?

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:24 AM

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is turtle maybe with an uppercase instead?
didn't work either

frozen coral Mar 1, 2020, 9:24 AM

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no idea what you just did to your settings files

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:26 AM

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How does it know what to do when you click the run button?
Sir I've just named the config and I've selected the Python 3.8 interpreter nothin else

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pure pulsar Mar 1, 2020, 9:27 AM

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(like lemon, i don't like being called sir, just saying)

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Yes, this

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:28 AM

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like I said its a habit

pure pulsar Mar 1, 2020, 9:28 AM

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Edit the line that says turtle.py

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Since you renamed it to Nikk.py

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Then try to run again

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:29 AM

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oh it worked

pure pulsar Mar 1, 2020, 9:29 AM

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\o/

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:30 AM

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thanks Sir

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don't mind

pure pulsar Mar 1, 2020, 9:30 AM

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😬

frozen coral Mar 1, 2020, 9:30 AM

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perfect now I have a conda question

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(base) [julius@joy bin]$ conda update --all

NoBaseEnvironmentError: This conda installation has no default base environment. Use
'conda create' to create new environments and 'conda activate' to
activate environments.

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it says base on the left

pure pulsar Mar 1, 2020, 9:31 AM

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(I know habits are hard, but i think you'll benefit of losing this one.)

frozen coral Mar 1, 2020, 9:31 AM

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I am 90% I activated my env

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:31 AM

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okay dude 😂

frozen coral Mar 1, 2020, 9:31 AM

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why can I still not update?

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nvm, got it

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 9:38 AM

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@pure pulsar can you help with Sublime text?

pure pulsar Mar 1, 2020, 10:27 AM

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Not really, but just ask your question

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I'm not a pycharm user either, but i still helped you with common sense :)

twin hull Mar 1, 2020, 10:32 AM

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@heavy knot I use Subl as well, I may be able to help you

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 11:01 AM

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oh thanks look thats the problem

gilded kayak Mar 1, 2020, 11:01 AM

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i use pycharm

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 11:02 AM

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@pure pulsar @twin hull
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463035462760792066/683594402072887326/unknown.png

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I'm not being able to configure it

twin hull Mar 1, 2020, 11:08 AM

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ah, I don't use the interpreter

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I run my script from the command line, you could do the same @heavy knot

pure pulsar Mar 1, 2020, 11:11 AM

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maybe you want python to be in the PATH

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i don't know how sublime text looks up for python.

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i didn't even know it could run your code, i though it just allowed to edit it

twin hull Mar 1, 2020, 11:11 AM

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you can with plugins I think

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Never used them

pure pulsar Mar 1, 2020, 11:12 AM

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i would just use a normal cmd or the new terminal to run python normaly

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 11:13 AM

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I run my script from the command line, you could do the same @heavy knot
@twin hull and what should I write in cmd?

twin hull Mar 1, 2020, 11:14 AM

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@heavy knot When you're in the repertory where your script/prog is, write python3 my_script.py

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Or simply python if you don't have python2 in your system

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 11:19 AM

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can you do it and send me S.S?

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@twin hull

twin hull Mar 1, 2020, 11:34 AM

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What do you want me to do? I don't know what S.S means

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 11:42 AM

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Screen Shot

twin hull Mar 1, 2020, 1:02 PM

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what do you need in it?

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 1:05 PM

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drop it now I'll deal with it later

true vapor Mar 1, 2020, 1:07 PM

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don't ghost ping moderators

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well, i'm sure they'll be along to tell you that

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 1:07 PM

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I was tryin to ping helpers

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can you help me?

true vapor Mar 1, 2020, 1:08 PM

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You don't need to ping anyone. You can just post your question and someone will come along and answer

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I probably can't help, but I might be able to. Just post your question

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!ask

rancid schoonerBOT Mar 1, 2020, 1:08 PM

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ask

Asking good questions will yield a much higher chance of a quick response:

• Don't ask to ask your question, just go ahead and tell us your problem.
• Don't ask if anyone is knowledgeable in some area, filtering serves no purpose.
• Try to solve the problem on your own first, we're not going to write code for you.
• Show us the code you've tried and any errors or unexpected results it's giving.
• Be patient while we're helping you.

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heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 1:09 PM

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I just need help with the graphical calculator divide button I missed it now idk whats the command for divide

true vapor Mar 1, 2020, 1:10 PM

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/?

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or ÷

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 1:11 PM

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/

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 1:38 PM

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oh great I figured it

civic hound Mar 1, 2020, 1:38 PM

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did you need something moderated @heavy knot ?

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im guessing no since the ping has been deleted, but all moderators still have the ping in their history as a ghost ping.

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 1:44 PM

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look up I said I needed help and I tried to ping helpers thats why I deleted that

violet belfry Mar 1, 2020, 1:48 PM

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How about not pinging anyone?

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 1:50 PM

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Aaaah sowwy 🙏🏼

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 5:04 PM

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How people do stuff here? I do this:

Write code in an editor
switch to ipython running in an X-Terminal to run the code.
switch to editor copy the code
paste code on the web

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it is not slow but not that fast either

tawny temple Mar 1, 2020, 5:06 PM

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The same.
Same but I use CPython. Sometimes I run code via an IDE.
3 & 4. Use git to push code to an online repository (GitHub)

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 5:07 PM

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by CPython you mean, you just use "python file.py"

finite fulcrum Mar 1, 2020, 5:07 PM

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write code in pycharm 2. run code through pycharm 3 push to git with pycharm

tawny temple Mar 1, 2020, 5:07 PM

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Basically yes @heavy knot

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 5:08 PM

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I am looking at Spyder for IDE now, let's see how it works out

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been trying Atom/VScode instead of Emacs

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tricky to copy code from and back to web from Emacs

tawny temple Mar 1, 2020, 5:09 PM

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I recommend version control instead of copy pasting code around

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 5:09 PM

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I am just beginning on Codewars.com

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started python last month

tawny temple Mar 1, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Ah in that case you do need to paste it into their website

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 5:10 PM

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🙂

true vapor Mar 1, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Do they not have an editor on their site?

heavy knot Mar 1, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Will sleep now. else I will fall on keyboard

finite fulcrum Mar 1, 2020, 5:10 PM

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Don't they allow some level of interaction through your own ide/editor?

topaz aspen Mar 1, 2020, 8:31 PM

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@heavy knot same - i'll typically code in vscode and then run it in an ipython session in iterm2... never really got in the habit of using the built in stuff with vsc for running sections

heavy knot Mar 2, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Why this works from AWS Console but this same command doesn't work from my local console!? How can I make it work in my local console?

📎 worksFromAws.jpeg

frank compass Mar 2, 2020, 12:23 AM

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What is not working exactly ? What do you expect to get ?

heavy knot Mar 2, 2020, 12:28 AM

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In my localhost, on my pc

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same IP doesn't work

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my pc

📎 unknown.png

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@frank compass

frank compass Mar 2, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Do you have something running on your local machine on port 5005 ?

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127.0.0.1 is loopback/local ip, not public, if nothing is running on your pc you'll get that message

acoustic epoch Mar 2, 2020, 12:00 PM

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Hello guys, my pipenv doesn't load any of my env variables properly, is this a known issue?

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I run my bot as a module, like @rancid schooner

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It seems to load all the line, and not ignoring comments

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If i remove all my comments its fine

kind chasm Mar 2, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Any of you hosting your own git web? I am using the pearl script that comes with git, but I'd like something with more functionality. Any recommendations for a light package for git? Preferring apache support.

warm pollen Mar 2, 2020, 5:56 PM

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Your own git?

kind chasm Mar 2, 2020, 5:56 PM

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I have a git server running on my nas and gitweb on my pi

warm pollen Mar 2, 2020, 5:56 PM

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What does this has to do with pearl?

kind chasm Mar 2, 2020, 5:56 PM

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which provides a web frontend

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Git comes with a pearl script for the web frontend

warm pollen Mar 2, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Ah okay

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It does the job

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Can't really say more haha

kind chasm Mar 2, 2020, 5:57 PM

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yeah

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just wondering if anyone knows a few alternatives that are apache friendly

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I am running 4 apache vhosts on that pi

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including bind9 and own domain

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Found something: https://gitbucket.herokuapp.com/ (demo)

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https://github.com/gitbucket/gitbucket

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Needs it's own binary but with a reverse proxy it should work

thorny shell Mar 3, 2020, 3:09 AM

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I'd think you'd want gitlab

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dunno if it works with apache, but it might

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it's probably complex

true vapor Mar 3, 2020, 8:34 AM

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Gitlab is quite resource intensive. I believe there are better solutions out there, although I don't know what

tired aspen Mar 3, 2020, 9:36 AM

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gogs is pretty simple to get started with

mental mason Mar 3, 2020, 10:07 AM

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Just want an opinion, is atomic commit better than a large commit?

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Imo atomic commit is better especially to track changes and maybe if u need to reset

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But what about the others?

finite fulcrum Mar 3, 2020, 10:12 AM

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If you can do it incrementally atomic seems much better to me, you know the reason why it was added, can revert a single feature etc.

frank compass Mar 3, 2020, 10:31 AM

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Atomic during feature dev, squash all commits into 1 when feature goes into release

mental mason Mar 3, 2020, 11:06 AM

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Hmm yeah

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Also a force push isnt a bad thing if u work on something alone right?

vivid cargo Mar 3, 2020, 11:20 AM

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Not necessarily

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It can mean your project has bad or incorrect history

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And force pushing can be fatal

warm pollen Mar 3, 2020, 11:53 AM

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Force pushing cannot be fatal

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I mean, you just replicate your local history to the remote

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Yeah, if your local is broken, the remote will be too

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But force pushing doesn't cause the issue

mental mason Mar 3, 2020, 12:32 PM

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It prob wont cause issue if im working alone anyway

thorny shell Mar 3, 2020, 2:25 PM

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if you're working alone, force-pushing is fine

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I even do it sometimes when working in "semi-public"

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i.e., other people can see my work, but it's in a personal area as opposed to the "OK I've gotten this code-reviewed and y'all can go ahead and us it" area

acoustic epoch Mar 3, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Is there a way to make IDEA's buttons bigger without material theme?

warm pollen Mar 3, 2020, 3:36 PM

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You could use a custom theme

kind chasm Mar 3, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Is there any way to get jinja support in Pycharm?

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I've only seen a paid addon

warm pollen Mar 3, 2020, 3:47 PM

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There is a built in support in the pro edition (free for student) https://www.jetbrains.com/help/pycharm/template-languages.html

kind chasm Mar 3, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Yeah I am not a student. Thanks though.

true vapor Mar 3, 2020, 4:02 PM

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I have a 3 month pycharm Pro code if you want it @kind chasm ?

kind chasm Mar 3, 2020, 4:04 PM

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appreciate it, but that is probably best spent on someone else. I am just going use vs code for the templates 🙂

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@true vapor

finite fulcrum Mar 3, 2020, 4:04 PM

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the trial is pretty long if you want to try it out

true vapor Mar 3, 2020, 4:05 PM

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Well. It expires in a couple of weeks, and I'm a student so don't need it. If anyone else wants it, @ me

kind chasm Mar 3, 2020, 4:05 PM

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@finite fulcrum Isn't that 30 days?

finite fulcrum Mar 3, 2020, 4:06 PM

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something like that, yes

kind chasm Mar 3, 2020, 4:14 PM

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oh they have a reduced individual license now

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just got a lot more attractive

soft agate Mar 4, 2020, 6:24 AM

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What is the advantage and the point of converting strings to bytes?

weak herald Mar 4, 2020, 6:26 AM

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It all depends on what you are doing with it.

soft agate Mar 4, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Hmm

pure pulsar Mar 4, 2020, 9:33 PM

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strings are to work in python memory, as long as you communicate with anything else, you need to convert to/from bytes

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@soft agate

soft agate Mar 4, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Ok

jovial cove Mar 5, 2020, 12:23 AM

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hey, i am having a problem with maintaining a python app on an old raspberry pi, one of the dependencies is tablib, the pi has python 3.4 so the current version of tablib doesn't work, i got around that by installing tablib==0.12.1, the problem is that as one of its dependencies tablib is installing openpyxl with no specified version, which doesn't work on python 3.4. Is there any way around this sort of just manually cloning tablib and editing its requirements? Can I tell pip (or some other dependency manager) to install tablib but override it's dependencies to some specific version?

tawny temple Mar 5, 2020, 12:36 AM

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@jovial cove Install openpyxl yourself before installing tablib. Pip will recognise that openpyxl already exists and won't install it again.

jovial cove Mar 5, 2020, 12:38 AM

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@tawny temple Thanks, I'll do that. Taking the time to update all the dependencies and python version to current ones is something I know I'll need to do, just need to get it up and running first.

mental mason Mar 5, 2020, 8:36 AM

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Sry i asked abt git a lot

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But what is considered to be bad commit?

warm pollen Mar 5, 2020, 8:41 AM

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A bad commit?

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I guess a commit that isn’t atomic, it contains too much unrelated changes,, or have a bad commit message

thorny shell Mar 5, 2020, 2:34 PM

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that's like asking "what is considered bad code"

violet belfry Mar 5, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Not really

true vapor Mar 5, 2020, 3:20 PM

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also, there are some solid answers to "what is considered bad code"

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Clearly you can't give a detailed explanation in two sentences. But you can point to stuff like readability, repetition of information, modularity

stable cloak Mar 5, 2020, 4:09 PM

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@jaunty cloak Okay, so

jaunty cloak Mar 5, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Ok

stable cloak Mar 5, 2020, 4:09 PM

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Go to File -> New Project and when that window pops up, click on the Project Interpreter: New Virtualenv environment line to expand it

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Let's see which one it's pointing to

jaunty cloak Mar 5, 2020, 4:10 PM

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📎 JPEG_20200305_214041.jpg

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📎 JPEG_20200305_214055.jpg

stable cloak Mar 5, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Ah, that second one is what we want to change

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Click the second option

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Then it should be good to create the project

jaunty cloak Mar 5, 2020, 4:12 PM

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It worked so now I can import open cv and other modules?

stable cloak Mar 5, 2020, 4:15 PM

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You'll have to redownload them for that specific venv. Bottom left hand corner there should be a tab that says Terminal

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You'll type in the py -m pip install commands there

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And it'll toss them into the venv and you'll be ready to rock and roll

jaunty cloak Mar 5, 2020, 4:19 PM

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📎 IMG_20200305_214922.jpg

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shroph

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@stable cloak

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Is this good or bad?

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Is it already being used or something else

stable cloak Mar 5, 2020, 5:11 PM

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@jaunty cloak Oh that's not a huge deal. So instead you'd want to do:

py -m pip install -U setuptools --user

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The reason you get that error is because Python normally tries to install to places it doesn't have permissions for, so you'd have to run the terminal as Administrator

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But doing the --user flag prevents needing that

topaz aspen Mar 5, 2020, 6:38 PM

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tmux ruins scrolling - is there a settingfor that?

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kinda makes it unusable

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as in - if i do something that prints output, i can't scroll up to see it if it was longer than a screen

rain belfry Mar 5, 2020, 6:39 PM

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I am trying to run a venv inside VSCode using python -m venv testproject , this works fine , the venv is functional and the packages are being installed in it and all.
But I have 2 issues:
1- VSCode is looking for pylint andblack inside the venv not the standard python library.
2- when I initialize the venv, there are packages preinstalled so if I try to pip freeze to create my requirements.txt I see about 15 packages I didn't install.
Anyway I can fix those 2 issues?

topaz aspen Mar 5, 2020, 7:11 PM

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@rain belfry i always just installed them in the venv, pylint and black that is

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(is that a bad thing? seems ok 🤔 )

wide belfry Mar 5, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Hi, hoping that someone can just clarify something for me, I'm pretty novice and have been using pyCharm, and I consider myself more of a "hacker" than "programmer" since I'm not building anything sustainable, it's all just one-off jobs so that I can automate something. But I find myself getting tired of launching a python terminal and then having to import pandas, and os, and re, and anything else that I need. Is this what a virtual environment is for? So that I can set up an "environment" where all of those dependencies are already available for me?

atomic nacelle Mar 5, 2020, 7:19 PM

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no. In a virtual environment you can install modules without affecting other virtual environments, but when you launch python they won't be automatically imported

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what you want is a PYTHONSTARTUP script https://docs.python.org/3/using/cmdline.html#envvar-PYTHONSTARTUP

wide belfry Mar 5, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Thank you, I'll give that a read. That would make it easier for me.

rain belfry Mar 5, 2020, 7:37 PM

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@topaz aspen well as I stated in the post, if i use pip freeze I end up with loads of packages including the ones I installed, so its difficult to create a requirements.txt file for my project

topaz aspen Mar 5, 2020, 8:14 PM

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@rain belfry what're the packages

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From the venv or your system

rain belfry Mar 5, 2020, 8:16 PM

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appdirs==1.4.3
asgiref==3.2.3
astroid==2.3.3
attrs==19.3.0
black==19.10b0
certifi==2019.11.28
chardet==3.0.4
Click==7.0
colorama==0.4.3
et-xmlfile==1.0.1
idna==2.9
isort==4.3.21
jdcal==1.4.1
lazy-object-proxy==1.4.3
mccabe==0.6.1
pathspec==0.7.0
pylint==2.4.4
python-dateutil==2.8.1
pytz==2019.3
six==1.14.0
sqlparse==0.3.1
toml==0.10.0
typed-ast==1.4.1
urllib3==1.25.8
wrapt==1.11.2

These packages are installed in the venv, I didnt install them

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except for black and pylint

acoustic epoch Mar 5, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Hey, how can i set my pipenv to a certain existing venv?

violet belfry Mar 5, 2020, 8:24 PM

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You don't

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Make a new one or activate the environment yourself

wide belfry Mar 5, 2020, 8:46 PM

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@atomic nacelle I tried giving that a shot, wasn't very successful, but PyCharm has a preference setting that will let me do the same thing (probably) and that worked for me. Thanks for the direction.

quick night Mar 5, 2020, 11:37 PM

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I have a question about Jupyter Lab (version 1.2.4)

I'm trying to disable autoClosingBrackets because it's been very disruptive. I have tried almost every solution under the sun, from editing the JSON preferences in the advanced settings editor in every category, to trying to write a GreaseMonkey script to delete the one Event Handler that causes autoClosingBrackets.

I have found that, for some reason, despite changing all of my settings, autoClosingBrackets (under the keypress Event Handler for every textarea) has a value of {}, which in JS is a truth value. Meaning that somehow the setting is still set to true even though I've gone out of my way to have it set to false in every place I can. If anybody could help me that would be amazing, I've been trying to fix this issue for the past 4 hours with no results.

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Alternatively, if you could help me figure out why getEventListeners(some element) won't work in a GreaseMonkey script despite running in the Chrome console, that would be great and would also solve my problem

mental mason Mar 5, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Im actually wondering which merge is used at which case? Sry bad English

Cuz i see that there are fast forward merge and normal merge

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It does say "fast forward" doesnt actually merge but it moves the tip of the branch

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I dont exactly get the difference between them

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The only thing i realized is that without fast forward, u create a merge commit

violet belfry Mar 6, 2020, 12:04 AM

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@quick night this seems to work fine for me

📎 unknown.png

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📎 asdf.gif

thorny shell Mar 6, 2020, 2:42 AM

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@mental mason "Fast forward" really isn't a merge.

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It's just that, when you say "git merge", it might give you a fast forward.

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a merge, to me, is any commit with two or more parents.

livid gyro Mar 6, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Hello, I did something weird and my bracket pair colorization disappeared on visual studio code. when it was working 100% of the time recently...

blazing condor Mar 6, 2020, 3:28 AM

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are you using an extension?

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you could try reinstalling it

livid gyro Mar 6, 2020, 3:29 AM

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yes

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I tried reinstalling it

blazing condor Mar 6, 2020, 3:30 AM

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what extension are you using?

livid gyro Mar 6, 2020, 3:31 AM

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📎 unknown.png

blazing condor Mar 6, 2020, 3:31 AM

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ah yes i use that too

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except version 2 is out now

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try v2 instead

livid gyro Mar 6, 2020, 3:32 AM

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I tried that one

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and same error

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but I'll try again

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nope doesn't work.

livid gyro Mar 6, 2020, 3:50 AM

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@blazing condor

blazing condor Mar 6, 2020, 3:50 AM

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oh sorry

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hm i'm not too sure. what did you do before it started not working?

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well, i'm off now since it's quite late for me and my head is not acting right lol. i'll see if i can help you another time

quick night Mar 6, 2020, 4:51 AM

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@violet belfry Oh wow, that worked. Huh. Thanks so much!!

atomic nacelle Mar 6, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Does anyone know of a way to nicely display a file/folder structure with sphinx? I'd rather not use an image, and the only other thing I can think of is a code block. Please @ me if you respond

thin oriole Mar 6, 2020, 2:16 PM

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This might be the wrong channel, but with OpenAPI/Swagger, are you typically supposed to manually update the spec whenever you make a code change that affects an endpoint? I know there's some software to automatically generate the spec, but from what I can find they don't always work great. I'm just confused about what the "standard" workflow is

tawdry sapphire Mar 6, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Does anyone here have much experience with coverage/pytest-cov?

violet belfry Mar 6, 2020, 5:44 PM

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What is the question?

worthy geyser Mar 6, 2020, 5:45 PM

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hi, I started using VS code for python na c++ recently and I have problem with auto code formating. I use Prettier extention but it doesnt work, in json files it works fine, but as soon as I open cpp or py file the Prettier ✔️ icon in the bottom right corner disaperes and when I click right on the Status bar prettier is not there, did anyone have such problem? Any fix?

violet belfry Mar 6, 2020, 5:46 PM

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I don't think cpp or py files are supported by the extension

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JavaScript · TypeScript · Flow · JSX · JSON
CSS · SCSS · Less
HTML · Vue · Angular
GraphQL · Markdown · YAML

worthy geyser Mar 6, 2020, 5:47 PM

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damn, I was trying to resolve this problem for 1h at least XDD

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Any cpp formating extention you recommend?

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and python

tawny temple Mar 6, 2020, 6:04 PM

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Only auto formatter for Python that comes it mind is black, but it's not really customisable. Surely there are others out there, I just don't know of them.

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For c++, use clang format. There's probably an extension for it

violet belfry Mar 6, 2020, 6:06 PM

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autopep8 is another one for Python

warm pollen Mar 6, 2020, 6:07 PM

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I used autopep8 in the past, it was quite decent, and gave better looking results than black imo

tepid ridge Mar 6, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Hey!

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Anyone willing to help me with Visual Studio Code?

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Just need to set up some things but I don't know how to do it well

lavish cosmos Mar 6, 2020, 8:33 PM

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I like yapf

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(formatter)

tawdry sapphire Mar 6, 2020, 11:14 PM

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@violet belfry I'm trying to get coverage working for Cython. coverage run works, but then when I do coverage report it complains that there is no source for the pyx files. When I add the pyx files to the directory then it errors with "Couldn't parse <filename> as Python source: invalid syntax at line 1"

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Obviously it doesn't make sense to parse the pyx files as a Python source, since they aren't Python source files

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I read somewhere that coverage should be getting all of the information from the compiled binaries, which are being compiled with linetrace on, CYTHON_TRACE=1, and CYTHON_TRACE_NOGIL=1

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I've been able to profile these files, and my understanding was that the requirements for generating coverage of Cython files is the same as those for profiling them

tawdry sapphire Mar 7, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Got it working. As far as I can tell Coverage version 5 is incompatible with the Cython.Coverage plugin. Downgrading Coverage to version 4.5.4 fixed it

kind chasm Mar 7, 2020, 2:03 AM

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In Pycharm, I have authorized Trello. Can I somehow have all TODO: sent to trello?

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or custom TODO tags?

hollow flicker Mar 7, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Hi

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I have a project that I need to run on multiple machines. The problem is that whenever I have to run it on a new machine, I have to setup everything from scratch for example installing packages and it does take a lot of time. I was wondering, if there is a way, I could package my working virtualenv directory and just use it on the other machine without going through the whole installation process. I do NOT have sudo access.

finite fulcrum Mar 7, 2020, 6:39 PM

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Have you tried anything so far?
This sounds like a simple requirements.txt ought to do it

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maybe a script to make a venv, activate it and do the pip install with requirements to make it a bit less tedious

hollow flicker Mar 7, 2020, 6:40 PM

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I tried requirement.txt

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doesnt install all packages, still have to do fair bit of manual installation, also, some machines have python 3.5 installed

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most of the code is in python3.6

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so if there is a way, i could just package together everything and use it, it will be great.

thorny shell Mar 7, 2020, 6:53 PM

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doubt it

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seems to me that you could get 90% of the way there by just fixing requirements.txt

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unless there's something unusually complex about your thing

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"pipenv" might help with this, but it's pretty complex itself, and you still have to install it

finite fulcrum Mar 7, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Do you use some weird dependencies that you can't put it into a requirementx?

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if multiple python versions are an issue you could have two of them

atomic nacelle Mar 8, 2020, 8:52 AM

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Using the intersphinx extension, I want to create a link to reference/simple_stmts.html#grammar-token-import-stmt. The target is import_stmt, but neither :obj:`import_stmt` nor :ref:`import_stmt` generate an actual hyperlink. Anyone know how to make this work?

heavy knot Mar 8, 2020, 3:54 PM

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Can someone help me identify the name of the option to remove these lines? They irritate me and I end up focusing too heavily on why the lines aren't going all the way to the close tag and its a waste of my time.
PyCharm.

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true vapor Mar 8, 2020, 3:57 PM

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What lines?

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the unerlines for enblock?

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@heavy knot

heavy knot Mar 8, 2020, 3:57 PM

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the lines that go from open to close tag.

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vertical lines in the editor

true vapor Mar 8, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Oh

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uh

finite fulcrum Mar 8, 2020, 3:58 PM

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indent guide

heavy knot Mar 8, 2020, 3:58 PM

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Thank you

twin hull Mar 8, 2020, 6:41 PM

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Do some people have feedbacks about using Github's secret feature to store token? https://help.github.com/en/actions/configuring-and-managing-workflows/creating-and-storing-encrypted-secrets

Creating and storing encrypted secrets - GitHub Help

Encrypted secrets allow you to store sensitive information, such as access tokens, in your repository.

heavy knot Mar 8, 2020, 7:20 PM

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I got a thing called VScode on my chromebook and just need help with beggining to code

blazing condor Mar 8, 2020, 7:21 PM

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what do you need help with?

heavy knot Mar 8, 2020, 7:54 PM

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@blazing condor Setting up my first code on VScode

blazing condor Mar 8, 2020, 8:03 PM

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well all you need to do is make sure you have python installed with vs code and you're all set

heavy knot Mar 8, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Can you give me a code example to test?

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pydis

timid jolt Mar 8, 2020, 8:20 PM

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@twin hull I have some pgp encrypted files on Github (not the key though). At some poin, running stuff on any I/PaaS or something will require putting some secrets or keys online. I probably would trust Github to know what they're doing.

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@heavy knot
```print('Hello world!')````
Also look at !resources for some great beginner info.

heavy knot Mar 8, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Alright Thanks

topaz aspen Mar 8, 2020, 10:18 PM

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If I have a series of local commits as:

7a9a0d2 (HEAD -> master) IMPORTANT 2
5eb7803 unimportant 4
7b37955 unimportant 3
f47da20 IMPORTANT 1
990e09a unimportant 2
294d4e7 unimportant 1
77ba257 commit 1

and want to have

7a9a0d2 (HEAD -> master) IMPORTANT 2
5eb7803 unimportant 2
f47da20 IMPORTANT 1
294d4e7 unimportant 1
77ba257 commit 1

this would be a case for using re-base?
presumably having

7a9a0d2 (HEAD -> master) IMPORTANT 2
f47da20 IMPORTANT 1
990e09a unimportant
77ba257 commit 1

would not be an option, as the order is messed up

thorny shell Mar 8, 2020, 11:21 PM

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yes except your commit hashes will change

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you can order the commits any way you'd like

topaz aspen Mar 9, 2020, 2:04 AM

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@thorny shell oh ok, cool - so if it's only local i don't care about the hashes changing.
i can order the commits differently even if one builds off another?

thorny shell Mar 9, 2020, 2:04 AM

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well you might be able to but it sounds like a bad idea

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in a perfect world, each commit would build and work on its own

tawny temple Mar 9, 2020, 2:55 AM

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If a commit makes changes to the same line as a previous commit, I imagine that reversing their order will result in a conflict that you will be asked to fix manually.

frail sundial Mar 9, 2020, 6:29 AM

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how can i set terminal (ubuntu's default) on atom-python-run package (it doesn't run after i installed budgie desktop environment) (don't forget to mention)?

final burrow Mar 9, 2020, 8:54 AM

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Anyone interested in better support for type hinting in Pycharm ? If yes, you might want to vote for that issue: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/PY-39703

mental mason Mar 9, 2020, 9:46 AM

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Sry another git question, is it good to seperate patches? What i mean by that is. Say i have to fix A, B and update C. So say A is 0.0.1, B is 0.0.2 and C is 0.0.3

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Is this a good thing?

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Or is it better to have them in 1 patch?

warm pollen Mar 9, 2020, 9:50 AM

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A git patch?

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What do you want to use them for?

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It is a pretty unused feature those days haha

somber lion Mar 9, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Generally speaking, each commit should be one concrete thing / idea. That way you can revert or apply one of those things individually later. For patches/merges, those tend to be a larger collection. But really it depends on what you're doing - would it be likely that someone is going to want to reject one half, and accept the other?

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It's much more annoying to disentangle the changes later.

mental mason Mar 9, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Not git patch, i mean just the versioning

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Like do i increment the patch number for each different fix or do i just do multiple fixes and increment once

warm pollen Mar 9, 2020, 10:03 AM

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It depends on how you want to release your app

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Generally speaking, you should create a new release when every issue is patched

mental mason Mar 9, 2020, 10:04 AM

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Since its a discord bot project my plan for the minor number is to increment it per feature such as Music related commands

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But im not sure for patch number

warm pollen Mar 9, 2020, 10:05 AM

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I’d say that if you have 3 patches to make, release them at once

mental mason Mar 9, 2020, 10:06 AM

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Ah alright, although i asked this when i already released them seperately

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Shouldve asked earlier, thank you

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For next patches im probably gonna do what u said

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Since i already released it, theres no use of reverting it back

heavy knot Mar 9, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Anyone have a script where it scans for projectors and your able to control them?

warm pollen Mar 9, 2020, 4:55 PM

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Projectors?

heavy knot Mar 9, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Yes

warm pollen Mar 9, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Like..

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This thing?

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https://imgaz.staticbg.com/thumb/large/oaupload/banggood/images/27/63/13b8e7a7-75f4-43c8-b412-647ee8183a2f.jpg

heavy knot Mar 9, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Yeah

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Like any scripts to control it over WiFi?

kind chasm Mar 9, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Does it allow to be controlled over the network? @heavy knot

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For something like that to work or to do it, you need to know the protocol

muted cobalt Mar 10, 2020, 4:56 PM

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I'd like to remove this inspection from PyCharm Professional

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I dont see the option to do so in the problem menu (Alt + Enter)

finite fulcrum Mar 10, 2020, 7:05 PM

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What's pycharm complaining about here? with this code I get Expected type 'Type[_T]', got 'FirstHash' instead on the cls in __new__ but if it's replaced by FirstHash it's happy

class FirstHash(tuple):
    def __new__(cls, *args):
        return super().__new__(cls, args)

lost rock Mar 10, 2020, 7:51 PM

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not sure, but you definitely need to write return super().__new__(cls, *args) (with a *)

finite fulcrum Mar 10, 2020, 7:52 PM

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tuple's constructor accepts an iterable

lost rock Mar 10, 2020, 7:53 PM

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yeah, but you have to pass the arguments though in the same way you obtained them - otherwise you always wrap them in another list

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oh, and the cls parameter needs to be gone, I think, if you use super() 🤔

atomic nacelle Mar 10, 2020, 7:54 PM

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In __new__ it's required for some reason, never understood why

finite fulcrum Mar 10, 2020, 7:54 PM

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The code works fine, I'm passing arguments to the constructor separately and a tuple is constructed from that
FirstHash(1,3) -> (1,3)

lost rock Mar 10, 2020, 7:55 PM

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wait no, I was wrong. It needs the cls...

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but regarding the missing *, compare these:

FirstHash([1,2,3])
([1, 2, 3],)
tuple([1,2,3])
(1, 2, 3)

finite fulcrum Mar 10, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Yes, I'm not aiming for the same behaviour

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Just don't know what pycharm is complaining about or means with that warning

lost rock Mar 10, 2020, 8:01 PM

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hmm, could it be a bug? because cls will be a class/type, but the warning makes it look like it thinks it gets an instance of FirstHash there... like with self in normal methods

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it only happens when the base class is tuple though. Changing that to e.g. list makes the warning disappear

finite fulcrum Mar 10, 2020, 8:09 PM

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ah right it's showing the type there, I through FirstHash means as me passing FirstHash

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not at my pc rn, does it happen for other immutables like str or frozenset?

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or just the tuple for some mysterious reason

lost rock Mar 10, 2020, 8:11 PM

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I don't see a warning for those two types either

finite fulcrum Mar 10, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Strange, guess it'll continue annoying me

muted cobalt Mar 11, 2020, 5:34 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/463035462760792066/686980894866931743

topaz aspen Mar 11, 2020, 5:35 PM

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hint: Updates were rejected because the tip of your current branch is behind
hint: its remote counterpart. Integrate the remote changes (e.g.
hint: 'git pull ...') before pushing again.
hint: See the 'Note about fast-forwards' in 'git push --help' for details.

I'm just wondering about this - when I'm sure there's nothing on the master that I don't have locally, so I must be misunderstanding.
when I run

git diff --stat origin/master

there are a bunch of changes, but they're all the changes that I've made locally

heavy knot Mar 11, 2020, 6:09 PM

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My Atom can't identify changed variables ))):

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pls hlp

atomic nacelle Mar 11, 2020, 6:30 PM

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How can I tell sphinx to leave my text as-is instead of replacing my commas with stupid ugly commas? My rst contains regular , commas, but in the html output they're ¸ commas. I found the smartquotes config value that disables this behavior for quotes and dashes, but nothing for commas

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Apparently that character is called "Cedilla" and is actually not a comma at all. Goddamnit, sphinx

atomic nacelle Mar 11, 2020, 6:56 PM

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False alarm, it wasn't sphinx's fault. My compose key program was acting up and creating cedillas instead of commas.

warm pollen Mar 11, 2020, 7:34 PM

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@topaz aspen have you tried to simply pull the changes? Git doesn't look at changes, it check commit IDs

muted cobalt Mar 11, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Hey, can I disable all the SQL-related helpers in PyCharm Professional?

delicate gorge Mar 11, 2020, 8:22 PM

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@warm pollen @topaz aspen your versionof origin/master is behind the actual one, oriign/master is inly upadted locally after a pull or fetch

iron basalt Mar 11, 2020, 9:22 PM

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@slow marlin let's continue here: the problem that you likely have is that you don't have discord.py installed for the interpreter that you're using to run the code, but I'm having a little bit of trouble figuring out how exactly you run your code

neat haven Mar 12, 2020, 5:17 PM

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how do i use virtualenv?

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on windows

finite fulcrum Mar 12, 2020, 5:19 PM

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create env with python -m venv venv_dir, activate with activate.bat and you're using your venv

neat haven Mar 12, 2020, 5:23 PM

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so what about all those guides on google that tells you to do virtualenv /venv

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?

vivid cargo Mar 12, 2020, 5:24 PM

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that's another way of doing it

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but either way is fine

finite fulcrum Mar 12, 2020, 5:25 PM

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virtualenv is a third party package with a couple more options

neat haven Mar 12, 2020, 5:25 PM

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ah and in this website/guide i have open it says i should do .\env\script\activate

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but that doesnt work for me is there any reason?

finite fulcrum Mar 12, 2020, 5:26 PM

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I brlievr it's scripts, and you need activate.bat on win

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You can find it there, just open it from the terminal and then you're in your venv

twin hull Mar 12, 2020, 5:31 PM

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venv ≠ virtualenv

neat haven Mar 12, 2020, 5:40 PM

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i mean yeah but i was using this website https://packaging.python.org/guides/installing-using-pip-and-virtual-environments/
and it tells me to do .\env\Scripts\activate which doesnt work at all

finite fulcrum Mar 12, 2020, 5:42 PM

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From where are you doing and how are you doing it? Is your venv named env?

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You just need to do the path to your venv's activate, doesn't have to be exactly as there

neat haven Mar 12, 2020, 5:43 PM

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well no and i changed that of course and im using visual studio code terminal both powershell and cmd

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anyway it works now thank you so much!

sharp geyser Mar 13, 2020, 4:12 AM

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It feels painful to realize I was right years ago criticizing Git Flow. Nobody was listening, some people even called me stupid for denying widely adopted best practices. And now just one article "Please stop recommending Git Flow!" has changed lots of minds regarding what the best practice is.

atomic nacelle Mar 13, 2020, 7:27 AM

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oho, George Stocker wrote that. That certainly lends it credibility

warm pollen Mar 13, 2020, 7:38 AM

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The git flow is okay in itself imo, but you have to deviate from it sometimes

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And having another long running branch is f*** okay

atomic nacelle Mar 13, 2020, 8:08 AM

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So I'm not particularly experienced with git, but it seems like it's standard practice to have release branches in addition to release tags. Can someone explain what the point of a release branch is? Isn't a tag enough?

warm pollen Mar 13, 2020, 8:12 AM

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I personally do both, because you can open a PR to the release branch and leave reviews on it, and have a CI creating the tag and the release assets when the PR is merged

atomic nacelle Mar 13, 2020, 8:14 AM

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I see. So for how long do you keep the release branch around? Forever?

warm pollen Mar 13, 2020, 8:14 AM

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Yeah forever

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I usually just create it when I want to do my first release, and then protect it to avoid any issue

atomic nacelle Mar 13, 2020, 8:15 AM

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Alright, thanks

acoustic epoch Mar 13, 2020, 11:16 AM

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How can i view emojis in pycharm?

true vapor Mar 13, 2020, 11:16 AM

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They should just render normally

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But they do look weird

acoustic epoch Mar 13, 2020, 11:58 AM

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Hmm

true vapor Mar 13, 2020, 12:04 PM

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here's how 😃 comes out

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warm pollen Mar 13, 2020, 12:04 PM

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That's horrible

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Haha

acoustic epoch Mar 13, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Yeah mine are just invisible

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Like a zero width space

true vapor Mar 13, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Might be the font you have selected

acoustic epoch Mar 13, 2020, 12:05 PM

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Can be

true vapor Mar 13, 2020, 12:06 PM

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I got curious - some are better than others

📎 unknown.png

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Faces are just awful

finite fulcrum Mar 13, 2020, 12:23 PM

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have no place in the code in the first place, but that's usually how they get displayed in normal text fonts

true vapor Mar 13, 2020, 12:41 PM

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They're absolutely fine as part of strings

finite fulcrum Mar 13, 2020, 12:41 PM

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Still should be using some form of unicode escapes

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exactly for the reasons above

true vapor Mar 13, 2020, 12:42 PM

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hm, the point above is valid

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but at the same time

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they're much easier than unicode escapes

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I guess a plugin that autoconverts to unicode escapes is correct - but thats not fun

finite fulcrum Mar 13, 2020, 12:44 PM

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What do you mean with them being easier?

true vapor Mar 13, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Easier to insert into code

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can just paste them directly

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and know what they're going to look like

warm pollen Mar 13, 2020, 12:47 PM

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You can !charinfo them here, unicode points tend to be safer

finite fulcrum Mar 13, 2020, 12:49 PM

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I'd have no idea how to do an emoji on my system without googling for the char, might as well use the unicode name then like "\N{SMILING FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH}"

warm pollen Mar 13, 2020, 12:51 PM

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I mean, unicode points are also fine

elder crane Mar 13, 2020, 5:16 PM

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I am having trouble with setup of a jupyter lab environment, anyone available to give me a hand?

iron basalt Mar 13, 2020, 5:18 PM

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it's best if you just explain your problem in as much detail as possible

elder crane Mar 13, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Sure, I am repeating the steps I am taking and recording them exactly, one moment

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here is what I am doing at the moment on Windows 10 with miniconda:

conda create --name jupyterlab python=3.7 nodejs
conda activate jupyterlab
pip install jupyterlab ipympl ipywidgets matplotlib
jupyter labextension install @jupyter-widgets/jupyterlab-manager --debug
jupyter labextension install jupyter-matplotlib --debug
jupyter lab

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that is resulting in an error when I start jupyter lab:

<only showing the last part due to character limit>
  File "C:\Users\droidicus\Miniconda3\envs\discord\lib\site-packages\zmq\backend\__init__.py", line 27, in <module>
    _ns = select_backend(first)
  File "C:\Users\droidicus\Miniconda3\envs\discord\lib\site-packages\zmq\backend\select.py", line 28, in select_backend
    mod = __import__(name, fromlist=public_api)
  File "C:\Users\droidicus\Miniconda3\envs\discord\lib\site-packages\zmq\backend\cython\__init__.py", line 6, in <module>
    from . import (constants, error, message, context,
ImportError: DLL load failed: The specified module could not be found.

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I am trying to run a kernel in a different conda environment (registered with ipykernel), but it seems to be the same problem even with the local kernel

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I can upload a full log if that would be helpful

tawny temple Mar 13, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Have you tried reinstalling pyzmq?

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I suggest you install all packages possible through conda rather than pip

elder crane Mar 13, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I started using pip since installing everything through conda was giving me different issues 😕

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I tried re-installing pyzqm with both pip and conda, didn't help, I am creating a new environment now with pyzmq installed through conda, one moment

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ok, so it looks like the following is working now:

conda create --name jupyterlab python=3.7 nodejs pyzmq
conda activate jupyterlab
pip install jupyterlab ipympl ipywidgets matplotlib
jupyter labextension install @jupyter-widgets/jupyterlab-manager --debug
jupyter labextension install jupyter-matplotlib --debug
jupyter lab

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installing pyzmq with conda

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yea, I tried moving all of the installs back to conda, and I am getting "Loading widget..." when I try to play something in jupyter lab and the following error on the javascript console: Error: Module jupyter-matplotlib, semver range ^0.7.2 is not registered as a widget module

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any ideas how to fix that, or should I just continue with the conda/pip setup from above?

tawny temple Mar 13, 2020, 6:46 PM

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This has been reported https://github.com/matplotlib/ipympl/issues/130

GitHub

"Error displaying widget" using Jupyter Lab 1.0.2 · Issue #130 · ma...

Possibly related to #124, I am trying to run a super simple example after following the installation instructions: pip install ipympl # If using JupyterLab # Install nodejs: https://nodejs.org/en/d...

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Try some of the suggestions in the comments

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But if the above setup already works then you can stick with it if you wish

elder crane Mar 13, 2020, 8:31 PM

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yikes, if that really is the same issue from almost a year ago (that is still open...) that is truly unacceptable

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every time I need to make a new python environment for a project it is a nightmare... I think the community REALLY needs to get serious about not pushing breaking builds

elder crane Mar 13, 2020, 9:27 PM

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the conda-forge version of pyzmq looks to be broken for me as well

elder crane Mar 13, 2020, 10:25 PM

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OK! Thanks for the help @tawny temple I finally got a recipe that happens to work today for both interactive Matplotlib AND plotly in Jupyter Lab using only conda...

conda create --name jupyterlab python jupyterlab "ipywidgets=7.5" matplotlib nodejs
conda activate jupyterlab
conda install -c conda-forge ipympl
conda install -c plotly plotly=4.5.4
set NODE_OPTIONS=--max-old-space-size=4096
jupyter labextension install @jupyter-widgets/jupyterlab-manager@1.1 --debug
jupyter labextension install jupyter-matplotlib --no-build --debug
jupyter labextension install jupyterlab-plotly@1.5.4 --no-build --debug
jupyter labextension install plotlywidget@1.5.4 --no-build --debug
jupyter lab build --debug
set NODE_OPTIONS=

tawny temple Mar 13, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Good to hear. Thanks for sharing the solution.

finite fulcrum Mar 14, 2020, 8:54 PM

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@dire urchin It seems to be using typeshed... didn't work for me and I removed it so can't check now but it works if you replace the current stubs with pathlib from https://github.com/python/typeshed

GitHub

python/typeshed

Collection of library stubs for Python, with static types - python/typeshed

dire urchin Mar 14, 2020, 8:55 PM

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thank you, i'll give that a shot

finite fulcrum Mar 14, 2020, 8:55 PM

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could be some outdated version, not sure how it's updated on pycharm but missing_ok was introduced 2 months ago according to the blame

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In the project view, typeshed is behind external Libraries->your interpreter->typeshed and then the 3 which has all the pyi files

dire urchin Mar 14, 2020, 9:06 PM

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@finite fulcrum Thanks, that's what it was, just have to why on mypy/typeshed to update 🙂

limber cloud Mar 15, 2020, 11:21 AM

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I am curious what people think of atom vs sublime text

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I've mostly used IDE's exclusively so far

iron basalt Mar 15, 2020, 11:29 AM

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you can just give them a try yourself and see whether you like them

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i didn't like atom personally, felt oddly chunky and slow for what it does

topaz aspen Mar 15, 2020, 7:37 PM

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Any one use vscode and have different settings for different projects?
Like, code base A has a line limit of 90 and code base B has limit of 120

delicate gorge Mar 15, 2020, 7:44 PM

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no

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but you are probably asking for what you can dow with the file .vscode/settings.json placed in project roots

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@topaz aspen

topaz aspen Mar 15, 2020, 7:45 PM

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@delicate gorgeah ok, you can just override, cool

rancid schoonerBOT Mar 15, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Hey @open forge!

It looks like you tried to attach file type(s) that we do not allow (.txt). We currently allow the following file types: .3gp, .3g2, .avi, .bmp, .gif, .h264, .jpg, .jpeg, .m4v, .mkv, .mov, .mp4, .mpeg, .mpg, .png, .tiff, .wmv, .svg, .psd, .ai, .aep, .xcf, .mp3, .wav, .ogg, .md.

Feel free to ask in #community-meta if you think this is a mistake.

open forge Mar 15, 2020, 10:40 PM

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http://haste.dragdev.xyz:8080/umirovo.sh Im getting this error whenever i try to pip install git+ my local package (at https://github.com/dragdev-studios/guildmanager/). What does it mean and how do i fix it

open forge Mar 15, 2020, 10:57 PM

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hold up i think i done it

elder crane Mar 16, 2020, 1:37 PM

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I use VSCode pretty extensively, I like it better than Atom (which I used to use) @limber cloud

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@topaz aspen you can add settings to a workspace, the vertical rulers are controlled by "editor.rulers": [80,120] (you can put as many ruler lines as you wish in there)

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for something like a pylint rule on line limit, you can put that in the pylint config file for the project

topaz aspen Mar 16, 2020, 1:40 PM

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@elder crane how'd the workspaces work? and do you typically version control them?

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is this different to the previous .vscode with settings.json in it?

elder crane Mar 16, 2020, 1:45 PM

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@topaz aspen

Go to File > Preferences > Settings
On this page there are two tabs at the top, select "workspace"
Search for "ruler"
Click "edit in settings.json"
Make changes to the json
This change is stored in the .vscode/settings.json file which can be version controlled if you would like

topaz aspen Mar 16, 2020, 1:46 PM

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This change is stored in the .vscode/settings.json file which can be version controlled if you would like

cool - so in future i would make this dir / file, and version control it in order for others to have the same settings

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thanks

elder crane Mar 16, 2020, 1:46 PM

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yes, but I could go through the vscode GUI to make sure it is created and used properly

topaz aspen Mar 16, 2020, 1:47 PM

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@elder crane hrm, it does some magic then?

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as in - the definition of a workspace isn't simply a project root with .vscode/settings.json within it

elder crane Mar 16, 2020, 1:48 PM

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I am not sure, haven't tried it the other way I just know it will work going through the GUI 🙂

topaz aspen Mar 16, 2020, 1:48 PM

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ah ok, maybe I'll A/B it, as if i can just set files up that's better for me

elder crane Mar 16, 2020, 1:48 PM

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it will likely work either way I just wanted to let you know what worked for me

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in case there are any issues

topaz aspen Mar 16, 2020, 1:50 PM

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@elder crane thats cool, thank you. If it works the same and i remember I'll try to ping you

rough marlin Mar 16, 2020, 2:47 PM

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@wooden ibex @obtuse saddle is vscode comparable in features to pychram pro if not sheer comfort ?

obtuse saddle Mar 16, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Raw - hell no.

rough marlin Mar 16, 2020, 2:47 PM

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im on outdated pycharm pro and its chafing

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during the last codejam stuff broke for me all the time

obtuse saddle Mar 16, 2020, 2:47 PM

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With various plugins - maybe, I used Visual Studio for C#, not VS Code, different programs

rough marlin Mar 16, 2020, 2:48 PM

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hm , ok

obtuse saddle Mar 16, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Just get Pycharm community

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Pro has its merits, but not everyone need them

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Or get it in other ways, like a student license. Or Stepik free course gave me a free 2-month trial code.

rough marlin Mar 16, 2020, 2:50 PM

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not a student anymore

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i'm a former QA automator / internal tool developer trying to get back into the job market

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i used jetbrains stuff at a previous job and got used to it

wooden ibex Mar 16, 2020, 2:51 PM

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No

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VSCode is editor

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reason I use it is I don't write extensive python and I need to write Powershell so one editor better then IDE and Editor

rough marlin Mar 16, 2020, 2:51 PM

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hm, makes sense

wooden ibex Mar 16, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Like I'm writing Powershell right now

obtuse saddle Mar 16, 2020, 2:52 PM

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There's def plugin for Bash in PC, and i think i saw Powershell plugin too.

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But PC is a slow monstrosity, not for weak rigs.

wooden ibex Mar 16, 2020, 2:53 PM

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it's not that my rig is weak

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I can't have Powershell plugin that isn't up to snuff

obtuse saddle Mar 16, 2020, 2:54 PM

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How hard is to write Powershell code?

wooden ibex Mar 16, 2020, 2:55 PM

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not hard at all

obtuse saddle Mar 16, 2020, 2:55 PM

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I thought it was similar to bash = longer scripts become nighmares

wooden ibex Mar 16, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Write-Host "Hello World"```

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nightmare in what way?

obtuse saddle Mar 16, 2020, 2:56 PM

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Basically, lacking stuff for structuring code

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Getting more on-topic

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Is it possible to integrate GUI designer into IDE?

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I'd love to quickly throw together some widgets like "radio button for a variable" or "choose a file to load", but it seems that QT designer is only option.

wooden ibex Mar 16, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Powershell has functions

frank compass Mar 16, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Look into Live Templates and create the ones you need @obtuse saddle

obtuse saddle Mar 16, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Hmm... Should work, by the way.

rough marlin Mar 16, 2020, 3:02 PM

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what language @obtuse saddle ?

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Powershell?

obtuse saddle Mar 16, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Of course, I'd have to write them myself, but at least i would be able to copypaste them.

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Nah, for Python scripts.

rough marlin Mar 16, 2020, 3:03 PM

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there's kivy

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idk how the gui design tool is for that

frank compass Mar 16, 2020, 3:04 PM

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You wouldn't copy/paste them anymore, you'd type your shortcut (exemple gui-radio press tab and then fill the variables that you created in your live template, like the name of the button)

rough marlin Mar 16, 2020, 3:04 PM

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i used it during the codejam a few months ago and i can say it might be ok for a quick gui for a utility, but it's very mobile-centric

obtuse saddle Mar 16, 2020, 3:04 PM

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I use CLI because making good GUI myself is too much trouble for too little gain, but if i could make quick and dirty GUIs, it would be a nice feature.

rough marlin Mar 16, 2020, 3:04 PM

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bu utility, i mean something really small

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there are some issues on os x btw

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nobody under linux or windows on my team had them though

heavy knot Mar 16, 2020, 9:29 PM

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can someone explain github to me

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ping me if you do please

frank compass Mar 16, 2020, 10:43 PM

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github or git ?

topaz aspen Mar 17, 2020, 12:26 AM

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is it possible to have git log --all -p display the following:

commit <commit hash>
Author: <name>
Date:   Wed Feb 5 10:50:44 2020 +0000
Branch : <branch name>

instead of just

commit <commit hash>
Author: <name>
Date:   Wed Feb 5 10:50:44 2020 +0000

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@heavy knot https://www.reddit.com/r/learnprogramming/comments/304yfp/eli5_github/

r/learnprogramming - ELI5: github

553 votes and 123 comments so far on Reddit

thorny shell Mar 17, 2020, 1:22 AM

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@topaz aspen maybe but I've never seen that. FWIW, a given commit might be on a bunch of branches, not just one, so it's not clear how it'd pick a single branch to display

topaz aspen Mar 17, 2020, 1:22 AM

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ah, that's true

thorny shell Mar 17, 2020, 1:22 AM

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you could kludge something up where you run "git log" and then run each output commit ID into "git-describe"

topaz aspen Mar 17, 2020, 1:22 AM

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i needed to piece together a time sheet

mental mason Mar 17, 2020, 4:16 AM

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Can u have tags for each branch? Im wondering if u could have like same tag v0.3.5, set on different branch and commit

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Ik this prob is stupid but just curious

thorny shell Mar 17, 2020, 4:18 AM

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you can put a tag on any commit you like

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tags and branches are pretty much the same thing, except that branches automatically "move" when you check them out and make some more commits; tags stay put

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also, you can syndicate any boat you row. I told you so!

mental mason Mar 17, 2020, 4:39 AM

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Hmm

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Ok another dumb question, can u have a new branch that is empty but its parent isnt empty?

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Wait no

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Uh

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Nvm

tawny temple Mar 17, 2020, 4:48 AM

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Yes, they are called orphan branches

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Then they don't really have "parents" though

spare matrix Mar 17, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Trying to make a REST API but i keep getting an error

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Say's that there's no "user" in the module resources ut i have a folder named user

lavish cosmos Mar 17, 2020, 5:47 AM

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__init__.py is the file that makes the folder be a python package, but alas, you named your file _init_.py

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you need two underscores at start and end

spare matrix Mar 17, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Thanks

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I changed it but still have the errors

lavish cosmos Mar 17, 2020, 5:49 AM

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I believe you have another thing named resources

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not sure though

spare matrix Mar 17, 2020, 5:49 AM

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It has to be named Resource?

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Not "resources"

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Is that what you mean?

lavish cosmos Mar 17, 2020, 5:52 AM

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the lint error says "module resources" - but resources is a package - that is what is tipping me off

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maybe try running the code to see the real error - linters often make mistakes

spare matrix Mar 17, 2020, 5:53 AM

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https://prnt.sc/rhkg9e

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Keep in mind I don't know what I'm doing

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So I might not be showing you the full picture here

lavish cosmos Mar 17, 2020, 5:56 AM

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yeah the error is totally unrelated with the code and the lint error you were getting 🙅‍♂️

spare matrix Mar 17, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Alright thanks

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Going to read more into this

sturdy palm Mar 17, 2020, 4:38 PM

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How can i run bash commands such as "touch" etc. in Pycharm terminal in W10? I was able to run these commands in Pycharm in my old laptop which was using W7.

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(venv) D:\Python Projects\Django\API\Stock Management>touch dafuq.txt
'touch' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

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I get this error.

finite fulcrum Mar 17, 2020, 4:40 PM

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does it work outside?

sturdy palm Mar 17, 2020, 4:40 PM

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No.

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C:\Users\Burak>touch dafuq.txt
'touch' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

finite fulcrum Mar 17, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Where does touch come from?

sturdy palm Mar 17, 2020, 4:40 PM

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What do you mean?

finite fulcrum Mar 17, 2020, 4:42 PM

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touch is not a program that comes with win afaik

sturdy palm Mar 17, 2020, 4:43 PM

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I know but i was still able to use it in my old laptop.

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I don't know how.

finite fulcrum Mar 17, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Then you or some of your tools installed it somewhere on your PATH

sturdy palm Mar 17, 2020, 4:43 PM

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How can i do that?

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Also commands like rm rf .git also doesn't work.

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I don't know why. I installed git bash.

finite fulcrum Mar 17, 2020, 4:46 PM

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They'll only work from there

sturdy palm Mar 17, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Can't i integrate git bash to the Pycharm terminal?

finite fulcrum Mar 17, 2020, 4:49 PM

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you can change the shell path in the settings under Tools/Terminal, don't know how well it works

sturdy palm Mar 17, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Thanks.

vivid cargo Mar 17, 2020, 8:23 PM

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change up the shell in settings

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wsl works, i doubt git bash will

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i had a lot of problems integrating it on vscode

tawny temple Mar 17, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Git bash works fine in PyCharm

heavy knot Mar 18, 2020, 10:57 AM

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My least favorite thing about PyCharm is this

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While I can easily scroll up and down the size of the text in my editor, I dont know how to adjust the size of the explorer. The further the depth is inside directories, the more unreasonable it is with space wasting.

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It should fit all of that in the space alotted.

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The only way I manage to deal with it is alt+1

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Is there a way to actually make it display in a more compact fashion?

true vapor Mar 18, 2020, 11:03 AM

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I'm not entirely sure if this is what you're asking. But you can just drag to give it more/less width of you hover at the space between it and the line numbers

heavy knot Mar 18, 2020, 11:15 AM

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I want it to be like this

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but PyCharm

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I realize that I could give it more width but its a massive waste of space for no reason

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I'm tempted to just use atom but PyCharm has some nice Python linting by default without any effort.

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the days of being attached to one editor are over for me. I have a variety now for what Im in the mood for. Am I in the mood for linting and fixing every PEP8 infraction in my code? Am I in the mood for seing all the things in my package structure very clearly? Do I need the snippets installed on that other editor or would I prefer vim to not accidently edit important system files.

idle lance Mar 18, 2020, 12:16 PM

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@everyone i have found and successfully reported a bug in PyCharm. Please Upvote it and help me and the PyCharm Community fix it.
You Can Upvote the issue by hitting the 👍 symbol near the right hand top corner of the Bug Report
Link : https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-233745
Bug : No Microphone access in mac while writing speech recognition code

cold gate Mar 18, 2020, 12:34 PM

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!mute 686154009542656012 1d Please don't attempt to send notifications ("pings") to the 35000+ members of this server.

rancid schoonerBOT Mar 18, 2020, 12:34 PM

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:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @idle lance until 2020-03-19 12:34 (23 hours and 59 minutes).

idle lance Mar 18, 2020, 1:28 PM

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Thanks a lot Ves Zappa for considering my apology

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i wont tag all again

empty fable Mar 19, 2020, 11:27 AM

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I remember theres a feature on vscode lets you hover on function provides definition or description, how to enable it?

civic walrus Mar 19, 2020, 11:31 AM

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That is what kite does

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https://kite.com/

Kite - AI-Powered Python Copilot

Champak Ray

Code Faster with Kite - AI Autocomplete & Docs for Python

Kite is a free AI-powered autocomplete for Python developers. Code faster with the Kite plugin for your code editor, featuring Intelligent Snippets, Line-of-Code Completions, Python docs, and cloudless processing.

empty fable Mar 19, 2020, 11:35 AM

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I dont think it require another extension but thanks

iron basalt Mar 19, 2020, 11:37 AM

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you will probably need the python extension

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i'm not sure if vscode can parse python without it

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if you have it then just hovering should give you something, or you can try holding ctrl and hover, it'll be something like that

empty fable Mar 19, 2020, 11:39 AM

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Installed python extension, Ctrl doesnt work

iron basalt Mar 19, 2020, 11:40 AM

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1 sec ill open mine

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just plain hover works for me

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empty fable Mar 19, 2020, 11:43 AM

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I cant see your cursor

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enabled kite cursor description doesnt work too...

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reinstall python extension didnt help

leaden flame Mar 21, 2020, 11:58 PM

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Kite is awesome for the most part, I just wish that it embedded the copilot as a VSCode pane, and was more intelligent about reading Docstrings

inner thorn Mar 22, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Kite slows my old laptop down 😭 so I’ve uninstalled it and never looked back

leaden flame Mar 22, 2020, 12:02 AM

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😦

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I have Kite, Python, and several other plugins installed. I love VSCode extensions. I just got code coverage, pytest, and debugging working on it.

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I'm so happy with that

inner thorn Mar 22, 2020, 12:03 AM

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I find extensions start to slow vs code down I don’t realize it until I use sublime and see the difference

leaden flame Mar 22, 2020, 12:04 AM

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The only thing is the coverage is supposed to be set to only show in green what code has been covered, rather than uncovered in red, but it doesn't work.

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shrug. I try to only download highly rated ones

stone apex Mar 22, 2020, 6:08 AM

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@royal granite

trail geyser Mar 22, 2020, 1:30 PM

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I am working on an auto itch.io to steam library shortcut maker but I am not sure how to do some things
for one I have it spit out a path to the .exe that is something like "Drive:\itch games\game\game.exe"
is there a way I can split this up into different variables such as (FullPath = Drive:\itch games\game\game.exe), (PathToExe = Drive:\itch games\game), (NameOfGame = game)

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oh

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wrong chat

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my bad

boreal kindle Mar 23, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Anybody here ever used GraphQL or GraphiQL?

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 4:20 AM

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@heavy knot What is docker?

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hello

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its a tool that help run any application virutally anywhere

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its attractive because it allows you to set up local developments that runs like a live server

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and you can run multiple different development environments from the same computer and allow anybody to work on that same project with same exact settings as you

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@heavy knot

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Oh sorry

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I was not focusing here

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I still don't get the advantages of it

rare mirage Mar 23, 2020, 10:13 AM

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Doesn't it happen to you that you feel ashamed of your commits in Git?

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For example

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I'm trying to deploy to heroku

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i made like two mistakes in a row

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Which leaded me to make more commits

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But those commits commit soo little changes that it makes me ashamed, what if someone looked into the commit history and said "haha what an unprofessional prick?"

warm pollen Mar 23, 2020, 10:20 AM

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You can squash them with the previous commit and pretend that nothing happened

vivid cargo Mar 23, 2020, 12:06 PM

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@boreal kindle i have

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graphql is a data access specification and graphiql is a graphical interface that uses graphql

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what bothers you

boreal kindle Mar 23, 2020, 1:06 PM

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@vivid cargo I was thinking about using it for my project but im not sure how. Would it be possible for you to talk me through it?

vivid cargo Mar 23, 2020, 1:07 PM

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sure

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i have flask api that implements graphql up on github

boreal kindle Mar 23, 2020, 1:08 PM

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Sooo the basic idea for GraphQL is, if I use it when I make an api request, it won't make me download the tons of data that it usually does and only get what I request for?

vivid cargo Mar 23, 2020, 1:09 PM

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yes, core idea of graphql is to get data what you are looking for, nothing more, nothing less

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so technically you can traverse through whole db with only 1 request to the api

boreal kindle Mar 23, 2020, 1:10 PM

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I was playing with GraphiQL last night using the pokemon API and it seemed to download all the data just fine. But when I try using it for the api endpoint for my project with my key it just keeps going around in circles

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And I dont see any data

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So Im just wondering if Im using it correctly

vivid cargo Mar 23, 2020, 1:11 PM

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how are you accessing the api

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mind linking the api endpoint?

boreal kindle Mar 23, 2020, 1:12 PM

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Sure give me a sec, would you like my api key as well?

vivid cargo Mar 23, 2020, 1:12 PM

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nah

boreal kindle Mar 23, 2020, 1:14 PM

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http://datamine.mta.info/mta_esi.php?key={key goes here}&feed_id=21

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But the api needs a key I think

vivid cargo Mar 23, 2020, 1:15 PM

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can you dm me the key just for testing?

boreal kindle Mar 23, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Yeahhhh give me a sec. My laptop is taking a bit.

vivid cargo Mar 23, 2020, 1:20 PM

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no hurry

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Hey, I'm trying to set up Docker, I got most of it to work, but the part of my code that tries to open a file can't find the directory. It can when I run the code normally tho

warm pollen Mar 23, 2020, 4:13 PM

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What your DOckerfile looks like? You probably forgot to add the file to your container

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 4:13 PM

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well first I didn't have the file

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but then I added it, and when I reran my container, it still said the file didn't exist

warm pollen Mar 23, 2020, 4:17 PM

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You rebuilt the container?

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 4:39 PM

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oh you have to do that

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@warm pollen it worked 😂

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Ok step 2, when I push my container it says permission denied

warm pollen Mar 23, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Try to sudo it

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 4:42 PM

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wait, will my config.yml file also be part of the container? and if so, how do I make it not part of the container while still not needing to rebuild the container and all that

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cuz I have my api keys and stuff in there

warm pollen Mar 23, 2020, 4:50 PM

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What is your dockerfile?

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I can't help you if you don't share it

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It is the same thing as code

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 4:54 PM

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FROM python:3

WORKDIR /usr/src/app

COPY requirements.txt ./
RUN pip install --no-cache-dir -r requirements.txt

COPY . .

CMD [ "python", "run.py"]

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I just copied the python image template, is that what I'm supposed to do?

warm pollen Mar 23, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Yes your config file will be inside your container

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I mean, you have to access it somewhere

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 6:23 PM

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but it contains sensitive info

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so how would I make sure that isn't exposed

finite fulcrum Mar 23, 2020, 6:25 PM

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No idea about docker but sounds like you'd want env vars

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 6:26 PM

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but I don't do that, I use a config.yml

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 6:39 PM

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What are you trying to avoid? Publishing an image with secrets in it?

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If you're using a file to store your secrets then the only way I can think of avoiding including it in the image is by passing its entire contents to your Python app via stdin

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But I don't think that's a particularly nice solution. You really should just use environment variables for them

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Or pass secrets individually as command line options to your Python app

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 6:55 PM

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is that really the only option?

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Well storing the file inside the image is out the question. There isn't a way to make it only visible to you or something.

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It's either there for everyone or not at all

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You can also copy the file over to the container after you start the container

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 7:25 PM

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so no gitignore feature or anything

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Well yes there is, but I don't see how that would help

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 7:25 PM

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i'd just docker ignore the config.yml file right?

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Doesn't your program rely on the config?

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 7:25 PM

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yeah

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 7:26 PM

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Well yes there is a .dockerignore. If you ignore the file then it wont be in the image, but then your program will complain there's no config file...

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 7:27 PM

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ok

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so

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when I create the image

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I have to rebuild the container right?

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is there a way so I don't need to rebuild the container, for just that file

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cuz rn I just git clone the repo, make sure I have all the dependencies, and then create the file, then run

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since the file is in the gitignore

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 7:29 PM

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I am a little confused cause you're terminology is incorrect, hold on

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 7:29 PM

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whoops

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Let me clarify. Images are built. Container are not built. Containers are instances of images. They can be stopped or started. If stopped, they still retain their state. They can be restarted. They can also be removed.

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OK they don't exactly retain their state. What I mean is they maintain changes to files.

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Can you rephrase your question now?

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...

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If you have a running container, you can use docker cp to copy a new file over to it. However, if you want to update a file in the image without re-building it, that isn't possible.

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If you do the copy for that file near the end of the dockerfile, then Docker will be able to use the cache of the previous layers when re-building the image. That may save you some time assuming nothing for the other layers has changed and invalidated the cache.

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 7:40 PM

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whoops, sorry I had to go do smth

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ok wait ima reask my question

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Right now, my current workflow involves me cloning the repo, and creating the file, because the file is in the gitignore.
What I want my docker workflow to include is pulling the docker repo, build the image, creating the file, and then docker run, I want to not need to rebuild the image, for that specific file.

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 7:45 PM

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You could use docker cp then

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Just keep in mind it only modifies the container, not the image. So if you stopped & deleted the container, then created a new container, the file you copied would not exist.

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 7:46 PM

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how do I use docker cp?

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Have you looked at the docs for it?

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 7:46 PM

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I literally just started learning docker

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 7:47 PM

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The docs are a good place to learn.

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 7:47 PM

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I tried...

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 7:47 PM

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What's causing you trouble with the docs for docker cp?

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 7:48 PM

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not specifically docker cp, just everything in general

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I don't really get docker

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I get it more than I did yesterday, but I still don't really get docker

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Well if you have questions I can try to answer

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 7:53 PM

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the FROM keyword, right now mine says "FROM python:3" but is it always that simple? Why do I do that, why don't I do FROM ubuntu:latest or smth.
how do you decide what your parent image is?

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 7:54 PM

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It depends on which software you need

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You're deploying a Python app, hence you're using a Python image

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You could use ubuntu and install Python yourself, but that's more work and makes your builds slower.

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 7:55 PM

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what if you are deploying like, a half python half node app

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 7:55 PM

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If you were a PHP dev thrn you'd find a base image with PHP installed

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You'd try to find a base image with both of those dependencies, create your own base image, or just install whatever is missing in the same image as everything else.

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 7:56 PM

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the python base image feels like it's just doing all of the work for me right?

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 7:56 PM

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In a sense yes

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 7:57 PM

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ok, idk i'm just uncomfortable with the concept that there's an image that installs python and everything for me just like that, wow

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ok yeah I think I have another issue

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there's no consistency in base images, some are OS's some are languages, some are frameworks, some are databases

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like there's the ubuntu image, a python image, mongodb image

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but in theory

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you could have a python app that you want run on a ubuntu machine, that uses mongodb

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so how would that work?

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Isn't this the same question as the python + node one?

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 7:59 PM

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no yeah but like

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why are they different like that?

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Cause that's just what the maintainers of the base images decided on

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 8:00 PM

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why are the images from software that have radically different uses

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why is there images where some are OSs some are languages, and some are databases?

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 8:00 PM

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To provide a lot of choices for developers

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 8:00 PM

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it makes it seem like base images don't have a unified purpose

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 8:01 PM

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They're not meant to

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 8:01 PM

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then how do you choose what image is best for your app?

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Like I said, it depends on the software your app needs

heavy knot Mar 23, 2020, 8:01 PM

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but your app could need like, 12 different kinds of software

tawny temple Mar 23, 2020, 8:02 PM

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You can also run multiple containers together and communicate between them