With PyCharm, shift+tab deindents the current line no matter where you are, but tab requires you to be at the start of the line to increase the indent level
#tools-and-devops
true vapor
is there anything thats the actual opposite of shit+tab?
frank compass
I just highlight at least 1 character and tab works
empty star
How can I have 2 projects on the side bar where project.1 stands?
random breach
@true vapor https://stackoverflow.com/a/33329152/10444096
this looks more like it does what you want
just trued the emacs tab, it's weird
tried*
random breach
it cycles between 0-current tab depth
(emacs tab)
indent line or selection does the trick though
violet belfry
Change your font to something that exists on the computer
vivid cargo
I remember this one
In settings there is a field for managing space between chatacters
heavy knot
no
woven stag
Why are those packages getting installed on the default python path? The terminal is running on my new path as well as outside vscode like on this screenshot
On the second screenshot it just changes the installation path for whatever reason
It seems that setup.py is what's making it change the installation path but I have no clue how to change it
heavy knot
thanks ELA it worked
woven stag
I'm so confused, on powershell (outside vscode), pip is installing on the correct directory
woven stag
Ok, think I figured it out
restive spear
read in markdown tables to a dataframe? Anyone know a library that does that automatically?
livid schooner
using git and github, how can you have a file on your pc that's constant even if you pull a file with the same name?
specifically, i'm trying to have a file for api keys, with the one in the remote origin being a placeholder and the one on my pc being the one i'll actually use
lost rock
normally I do and recommend it like this:
- have a stub, e.g.
config-example.ymlcommitted in your repo, which can be published and holds no secrets - require people using your software to copy/rename that file to e.g.
config.ymland fill out the missing values (document in Readme). - have the actual
config.ymlwith your secret values ignored by git by adding an entry for it to your repo's.gitignorefile and commit that.
livid schooner
so essentially just avoid naming them the same
i wish there was a smarter way to do it
lost rock
I think there is, but I never dared to dive that deep into git yet 😅
livid schooner
i need to do this with several files too, cause i have json files that need to be clear in the remote
lost rock
something like this maybe? https://stackoverflow.com/q/936249/4464570
thorny shell
simply don't commit the "secrets" file.
make sure your code emits a useful error when they inevitably run your program without having created one.
thorny shell
and yes, add an entry for that file to the project's ".gitignore", so they don't accidentally commit it
if you're super lucky, github, or someone else, will notice if you accidentally commit secrets. But you can't count on that.
livid schooner
but i have to have that file in the remote for it to work, and if i pull, it's gonna overwrite the existing local version
lost rock
that's why I said you need to document what files people need to copy/rename and adapt with their own local secrets. or even write a small installer script asking for the values and doing that
you can "disable tracking" of some local files with git update-index --skip-worktree PATH_HERE, but that is only on your local machine, and everybody cloning your project won't have that.
a .gitignore and renaming/copying avoids that, as it's the same for everyone
livid schooner
i just need to make sure the local version isn't overwritten when pulling
that's all
lost rock
that works with the command I mentioned, which is described in the linked SO post too. But I can't think of a scenario where I would consider this a good solution, tbh.
livid schooner
i don't see why this scenario would be so unusual
topaz aspen
i asked in the main channel earlier and didn't get an answer, but i'm still curious (perhaps tools is more appropriate)
So - of those who use vscode - do you find that the python mode can quite regularly be problematic? Things such as code completion not working, or snippets not loading etc.
just wondering if this is something that others bump into really, no particular errors or reproducible stuff to post
thorny shell
I don't use it but I'd be a little surprised; Microsoft tend to have their s*** together when it comes to IDEs
livid schooner
i don't really have any problems with it
topaz aspen
hrm ok 🤔
ive definitely had issues with the things i've mentioned, perhaps there's something clashing though
thorny shell
you might have a flaky plugin
topaz aspen
Ok just to check, i've run
git reset --hard < previous commit id >
and lost work.... i'm never seeing this again, am i?
thorny shell
well, you've lost anything that wasn't already committed, yes
but whatever commit you reset away from is still there, in the "reflog"
topaz aspen
yeah, well that was an extremely expensive lesson
topaz aspen
is it possible to have the splits different font sizes in vscode?
twin hull
nano is considered as easier than vim, but why it vim considered "superior" on the long term then?
delicate gorge
Because in vim you can do a million things(the majority of which you're probably not even thinking off) a lot faster than in nano
For example if you have code like
func("hello world this a string")
And you'd want to change the string, put your cursor aaaaanywhere inside it and type
ci" (shorthand for change inner ") and the stuff between the two "" gets deleted and you can retype it
And there are hundreds if not thoudands of shortcuts and ways to combine them
@twin hull
twin hull
ok thanks
tranquil epoch
another point about nano versus vi / vim: some (older) *nix distributions you may find (like in an enterprise environment) won't have nano (or even vim) loaded, so having a working knowledge of vi (or, shudder... emacs) might help
delicate gorge
Emacs won't be on machines that old either
Maybe some Emacs compatible minimal thing but not usual Emacs
twin hull
vim is more than 20 years old if I recall correctly, how can it be possible not to have it?
delicate gorge
Vi (the editor vim is largely based on) is from 76
However vim itself is from 91 so almost 30 years
twin hull
I hope there is no more productions servers that don't have it then!
delicate gorge
How can one not have it is simply that some minimal operating system installations don't bother shipping a full vim and instead give you a vi
Of course there are for reasons I just explained
twin hull
vim itself isn't already very light?
delicate gorge
But vi and vim share maaaaaany things
The average user will find little difference
Well vim itself looks very light but you can do a million things with it without plugins already
Has a file explorer can do remote editing via SSH can do syntax highlighting of course
Of cojrse it also has its vimscript
And if you built it with certain options support for python plugins support for a graphical version and what not
twin hull
I'll give it a try
As for now, I only faced it with git, and changed quickly to go back to sublime
I didn't understand anything and took more than 10 minutes and a search on the web just to exit
delicate gorge
That almost sounds like you're meming but if you say so...
just do a 'vimtutor' in the shell of your trust or a :help in vim itself and you'll be fine
urban elbow
I'm having some troubles with setting a new font in VSCode. I'm trying to set JetBrains Mono as my font but what I am doing doesn't seem to be working. It works fine changing to other fonts (i tried Arial and Verdana and it worked). I also double checked and the font is definitely in C:\Windows\Fonts. Do i need to restart my laptop before it will work?
Arial works fine
urban elbow
Never mind, I just forgot to restart VSCode.
shell wasp
Quick question, I use selenium to test my employers website. Now we are planning to move to apps. I am looking for a solution to test on an adroid/ios app. Do you know of any good frameworks ?
If not what should I Google ??
frank compass
Don't know anything about apps, I googled android ios automated ui/ux testing and got a few links
rich elk
i was wondering if someone could help me with controlling the mouse and keyboard in pycharm, please @ me
heavy knot
@rich elk how
heavy knot
if you dont have vi or access to graphical
my statement still stands
there is always nano
;)
thorny shell
and my point is that, no, sometimes there isn't nano
hm, you know, I should actually check that
heavy knot
uhm
thorny shell
well Amazon Linux AMI release 2018.03 has nano 🙂
so perhaps the boxes I use at work have it, too
dusty hill
Let the editor wars continue?
heavy knot
ive never heard of any linux distro or unix based machine not being included with nano
delicate gorge
did someone just ask for a linux distro without nano per default
heavy knot
@delicate gorge read ^
dusty hill
I just had to edit something down inside the guts of REPL.it. I was amazed that I got to a bash shell. But it had no editor available at that level and I had to use echo >
heavy knot
or for previous conversation check #help-coconut @delicate gorge
thorny shell
@dusty hill that's like old-school sysadmining.
dusty hill
One of our guys for some reason had joe as the default editor and couldnt figure out how to exit 🙂
delicate gorge
hm
thorny shell
of course
dusty hill
forgot all those old school WordStar ctrl-k commands
thorny shell
I detect an old person
dusty hill
I have used "echo" and "copy con" on windows/dos
delicate gorge
well from the top of my head would be
all buildroot linuxes
nixos
prbly gentoo and derivatives
dunno about arch but maybe
dusty hill
it was an arch system that had joe, but I can't imagine why
dusty hill
ctrl-k brough up the secondary menu
heavy knot
but arch does indeed have nano
dusty hill
I hate nano 🙂 But I cn use it
heavy knot
but why
delicate gorge
also, as vi is actually specified in POSIX without any other editor having that status the only editor you can be aaaaabsolutely sure to find on POSIX compatible systems in 100% of the time is vi
dusty hill
but after coming from the M$ brothel I got very used to CUA/sAA editors, so the whole Scintilla world is pretty comfortable.. But I am very used to vim... love me some vimGolf anyone else play?
delicate gorge
@heavy knot question is does it have nano per default
delicate gorge
for any linux distro
every distro apart from the embedded ones prbly have nano in their repos
the question is wether its there per default
hardy cedar
nano is not a required editor so it's not present on all distros
delicate gorge
exactly
dusty hill
If you are using *nix there is no good reason not to know how to use vi. But unless you are stuck on minimalized systems, there is no reason not to be able to use whatever you are comfortable with
delicate gorge
minimalized systems / any system you dont have root on
which if youre working in a professional environment are gonna be a lot
dusty hill
Emacs has Tramp, and Vim lets you open files remotely, so not sure if it matters, I can always use a comfortable editor on my machine, and if it is not installed on the remote system, then I can usually work across ssh with the on I choose. I may not have root/sudo on the AIX servers, but I certainly do on my notebook
I have been working in the professional environment for 30 years, and I have yet to not be able to use whatever editor I deemed necessary. Even when I still used Visual Slick Edit, I even got my bosses to pay my maintenance at some places.
thorny shell
didja use "brief"?
dusty hill
Brief, and Crisp.
playing with Eric now.. Not sure if I like it yet
didn't do it for me
Let's try Thonny
thorny shell
wow, I'd forgotten Crisp
BriefEdit I think it was called
Brief.
Boxer.
Short.
UnderWare.
I sense a theme
dusty hill
Crisp was a Brief clone. and Brief was awesome until Borland bought it and killed it
I did Qedit, that because TSE (The Semware Editor) also Bingo and a bunch of those others
thorny shell
these names are ringing very faint bells.
dusty hill
thankfully I was on a trunk to the mainframe so I was in terminal mode yterm if i remember correctly. We used XEdit
thorny shell
you may have just out-codgered me
dusty hill
I just ran scite. By default it understands python, and I ran my text mode version of conway's in it and it ran it in its terminal ... not bad for out of the box
When I got to Penn State they just recently got rid of punch cards
Hmmm Geany seems to know what to do with python right out of the box, runs conway's in a new terminal window. It thinks it should use PEP8 as a linter, but easikt enough was able to change it to flake8
thorny shell
I've never seen a punch card outside of a museum, but people younger than me actually used them
dusty hill
I remember when people made Christmas wreaths out of them
dusty hill
paper tape, or is it driver for jacquard loom?
thorny shell
one or the other ... can't quite remember which
the printers for those had a little bucket to collect the dots. Dumping that bucket on someone was fun
dusty hill
never used that but I have used both 5-1/4 and 3.5 floppy and microfloppy
thorny shell
pff, kid
dusty hill
my first computer had a cassette tape drive, and my first hard drive was a 69 Mb RLL drive
thorny shell
what! why you're just a shirt-tail youth
who let you in here? Don't you see the sign?
"You must be this tall to tell tall tales"
dusty hill
I went out to a developer conference and bought one of the GNU's Not Unix T-Shirts (unbleached cotton of course) while I was on the plane coming back, someone asked me if I was Richard Stallman 🙂
He is 12 years older than me 🙂 and Linus is 4 years younger than me 🙂
My second job out of college in the very early 90's was for Compute! Magazine. Then my next one was Penthouse Magazine 🙂 I have bylines in the former.. no so the latter.
Pictures are too small, is that a loupe?
thorny shell
it's supposed to be.
I'm on a watch discord, and forgot that my avatar is the same on every server
also it's on the wrong eye, but ... sigh
thorny shell
nah, I'm a wanna-be amateur horologist
dusty hill
I have done some clock stuff, but preferred to do cameras, But not that silver photography is pretty much done, I don't worry about that much either
thorny shell
I have two old Nikon FE2s in my bedside drawer; I can't bear to get rid of them. Cash value 1/20th of 1¢.
dusty hill
check with B& H they might be worth more than that. I have a VietNam era 3 lense set nikon that I had the meter modified to use normal batteries instead of mercury. Takes some nice pictures
I think F2 maybe
thorny shell
Oh I know how much they're worth.
dusty hill
😦
I have some intersting 4x5s and a pile of Mamiya RB67 and maybe some 330 and 220s too
I only wish I could get a reasonable digital back for the RB's
thorny shell
I think (unless I sold it and then forgot) I have an old Speed Graphic 🙂
I took approximately one photo with it, but it's a good 'un
dusty hill
I have a field version and a few of the ones that cock like a shotgun, rapid something
Hey, there's this:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/i-m-back-low-cost-medium-format-digital-back#/
I think I have 2 or 3 of them
I have some boxes that I packed up nice and secure before I moved. I have lived here going on 6 years 🙂
acoustic epoch
Hello guys, anybody knows how can I apply a theme that is not a plugin to pycharm? Like this one https://github.com/jamiewilson/predawn
tawny temple
Don't think it's posible
You can manually set colours of some things to an extent
Mainly for the code editor
Doesn't seem possible to change the colour of the interface itself in that manner
random breach
if you can find some way to convert it to a vsc/text mate theme then you can use one of these tools to convert it to an intellij theme:
https://github.com/tobiastimm/code-theme-converter
https://github.com/JetBrains/colorSchemeTool
oo, looks like theyve got an intellij port here:
http://color-themes.com/?view=theme&id=563a1a8f80b4acf11273aed5
@acoustic epoch
also this one
oh, looks like there are text mate version available on the repo too, so you could try converting those if those ports dont do the trick
acoustic epoch
@random breach Oh cool, so the second one is just a theme i can use in intellij?
or i should convert it using the 1st link
random breach
both of the themes from color-themes.com are apparently intellij compatible
there's also this https://github.com/jamiewilson/predawn/blob/master/predawn.tmTheme
text mate version of the theme available on the repo
which you can then use https://github.com/JetBrains/colorSchemeTool to convert
in case the ones from color-themes.com dont work
acoustic epoch
so the .jar file is a plugin-like?
acoustic epoch
same here
acoustic epoch
importing the settings just messed it up, how can i use https://github.com/jamiewilson/predawn/blob/master/predawn.tmTheme to add this theme?
using the convertor?
@random breach
acoustic epoch
smh it requires python 2.7
acoustic epoch
This is my output in pycharm, while in vscode it shows the full error, anybody knows what the problem here?
random breach
go to the top right bit, click on that
select 'edit configuration'
then in the window that pops up scroll down and make sure that 'emulate terminal in output console' is checked
this typically happens because some libraries like qt do some weird things with stdout/stderr while pycharm also does some other weird things with stdout/stderr which make them incompatible.
@acoustic epoch
heavy knot
Hi! I am a newbie to Python and was wondering what programs I should use.
I am looking for an IDE for testing my scripts and a text editor to write out my scripts
Any suggestions will be helpful
lost rock
!resources has some recommendations
rancid schoonerBOT
obtuse saddle
Hello! There are some suggestions in the sticky! For me, it's Pycharm, but other may have other preferences.
vivid cargo
I prefer vscode, a bit weaker than pycharm in terms of fetures and codechecking but extension market is huge
warm pollen
!tools is a specific page dedicated to IDEs and editors
rancid schoonerBOT
honest elm
How can i run easily code inside Sublime?
Ping me please
timid jolt
@honest elm something like this? https://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+can+i+run+easily+code+inside+Sublime%3F
🙂
coarse rapids
@timid jolt Please don't reply with LMGTFY links, it's rude
Instead you could provide one link, or ask the person what they've tried so far.
vivid cargo
@honest elm corey achafer made a video explaining how he set up his whole sublime 3 editor
in there he explained how he runs python inside it
there's the video, although i think sublime can't accpet keyboard input in python execution
eivl, our admin, uses sublime and has way more knowledge than me. You might want to talk to him
timid jolt
@coarse rapids I found it funny that the first link returned on his exact question provided a solution. I will refrain from doing that again here. Thank you for the feedback.
bleak barn
how can I export as an exe file in pycharm?
tawny temple
Look into pyinstaller
bleak barn
for some reason I don't have pip
dusty hill
Anyone know hot to run coverage without getting it to test the coverage outside your project ?
honest elm
@civic hound
civic hound
yes
honest elm
Okay so first thing is how can i run code inside Sublime
civic hound
sublime has a built in python build system
honest elm
And why mybe doesn't work as i whant?
What do u mean?
@civic hound
Well and second thing was how can i install a linter for python on Sublime like pylint
civic hound
i use flake8 for that
well.. i do not know what your needs are for running python code with sublime.
for me personally I need an REPL so i can work on debuging within sublime
some wants a repl just because they want to capure input() from the user
if you just want to run the code, then the normal one will work fine
honest elm
What does REPL mean?
civic hound
!repl
rancid schoonerBOT
civic hound
read this tag for this info 😉
me using a REPL is down to how i write code. some just use python -i my_file.py in the terminal
i on the other hand like that to be inside my editor, just so i do not have to Tab to my terminal
honest elm
What does the -i do?
civic hound
did you read the tag i posted above?
honest elm
Not all
civic hound
then you should, your question is answered there
i would just copy paste it from there, it is so well written, i could not explain it any better you see
honest elm
Ah okay
soft trench
(on the 5th para)
honest elm
Yes yes
civic hound
our admin fisk is the one that has written this.. 😄
soft trench
no, have you had experinece with a command line env/shell/terminal?
soft trench
(ditto)
civic hound
then thats the repl
honest elm
Just run script from cmd?
civic hound
yes, thats what i do, i do not use the default build system
its a package called SublimeREPL
honest elm
And how do i install that package?
civic hound
sublime has a package manager
you have to use that to install it
if you have not used that before you have to run a first time setup
are you on windows?
civic hound
CTRL SHIFT P
civic hound
yes, vscode got this from sublime i think.. if sublime was the first 😄
civic hound
flake8
honest elm
Same?
civic hound
once you have the package manager you activate it and write install package
then flake8
honest elm
Ctrl shift p?
civic hound
you have to have flake8 installed on your computer to make the sublime version work
yes, everything inside sublime is run using CTRL SHIFT P
honest elm
There is no pylint?
civic hound
yes, you can insttall that
but you should not install both. it will mess with you 😄
chose the one you want
honest elm
Ho is better?
civic hound
i do not know. i have only used flake8
soft trench
pylint is good too
civic hound
i think black is the new cool kid in town, but ill just stick with flake8
soft trench
black adds "extra" new lines, makes it more legible
honest elm
And when i habe SublimeREPL installed how do i run the script from Sublime?
civic hound
CTRL SHIF P -> run current file
i have made a shortcut key for this though. its a bit hard to explain more in details
honest elm
But wasn't that for serching packages?
civic hound
you can run any command from CTRL SHIF P
honest elm
Aha
civic hound
installing packages, runing script, chaning theme,
civic hound
i run the current file with Ctrl + B
honest elm
If i am not wrong to config keys u must look on a super long file witha ll configs
civic hound
this is my sublime
hmm.. i have some internet issues, not able to upload a screenshot
honest elm
Retry
civic hound
sublime uses configure files yes, they tend to be a bit long because people like to have many options
ill just switch to mobile, hold on
honest elm
And do you remeber were was approximately the line to change the key to run the code?
civic hound
oh its not that easy. its a lot of configurations and customization
honest elm
But is only one key no?
civic hound
are you infront of your computer and have installed SublimeREPL?
civic hound
then there is no way for me to explain it
civic hound
sure thing
ivory wagon
I tried using pycharm but I really can't get into it
trim schooner
Hi all,
I am looking at learning Django.
At home I am using Windows because of playing a game.
Would you suggest running something like a Ubuntu VM in virtual box?
Or is it ok to run directly on my WIndows install using Python virtual env. ( I had a quick read I think this allow me to run django without messing any other project)
Would I run postgres on my local Windows or should that be a separate VM or same VM as Django?
and finnaly anyone been using something DOOM Emacs for pythong work? I am very intersted in using this over pycharm although I know this is a massive learning curve also i feel its worth it
dusty hill
good morning y'all
honest elm
@civic hound
I' here
So
Explaint me step my stem what do i must to to install the linter on sublime
Because i installed 2¡3 linters and doesn't work
The only thing it happens is that it gets yelow when somethin is wrong
And allso now how can i unstall the linters i have installed
crimson stump
why are git hooks written in ruby so much
literally never came across ruby until i started looking at hook scripts
i am a newbie but still
vivid cargo
git hooks are written written with ruby because github api is written in ruby
i forgot which version or api
civic hound
@honest elm Im away on a business trip, could not answer. we can talk about this at a later time. 😄
im normally active in the help channels when im online, so there is a good place to look for me 😄
fervent juniper
bruh
honest elm
I intslled the Monokai color theme on VSCode, but the problem is that the color of the library constants still white
Is the only thing that still the same
I whant this:
But i have this
If does someone know how to fix that please ping me.
normal topaz
hello, i had a problem regarding imports and VSCode
i have a file for discord bot, in which i built most of it on my desktop
when i decided to work on it on my laptop, i had many import errors
and i downloaded all the modules through pip
so i cannot test anything within the VSCodes terminal
if i launch the code from cmd, it works
hybrid lagoon
is your vscode using the same interpreter?
normal topaz
@hybrid lagoon wait you just fixed my problem LOL
thank you so much!
definitely wrong interpreter
hybrid lagoon
good to hear
ivory barn
Guys, can we set PyCharm's virtual environment so that it runs React? 😄
true vapor
You can with pycharm Pro
thin pendant
Someone aware how can I acheive this ??
In Sublime text I already have github integration with Sublime Merge but I am missing one option. I would like to be able to select line of code in Sublime and Copy Git Permalink so that I can reference it externally with my team.
Link like this > https://github.com/psf/requests/blob/a9906536ee971872e5031a0138d63fb4ea481511/requests/exceptions.py#L12
Please ping me if someone knows the answer 🙂
thin pendant
Above problem solved with https://packagecontrol.io/packages/Open in Git Repository
You can also edit package code to your needs. It's in Python ❤️
honest elm
I intslled the Monokai color theme on VSCode, but the problem is that the color of the library constants still white
Is the only thing that still the same
I whant this:
But i have this:
please @civic hound If you have idea...
Ping me plase
jaunty owl
Is the Intel Celeron 4205U 2-core / 4 thread?
violet belfry
@honest elm let's not use passive aggressive links
Instead try conversing with people like they're humans
violet belfry
It's not funny
thin pendant
But yeah why people ask questions that can be googled within 5 seconds ?Also wrong channel, this isn't hardware channel .
violet belfry
Because google results often lead to pages of garbage
If it bothers you, you can just not type anything
civic hound
@honest elm i have never used vscode before, so not sure how much assistance i can be to you
civic hound
no ofc not. we do not randomly ping people here
thin pendant
Hey maybe someone knows how to debug Sublime Text plugins when developing ? I want to be able to use pdb
civic hound
what version of python are you using @thin pendant ?
civic hound
lets to one thing at the time
😄
you need a REPL to use pdb
there is a package im using called SublimeREPL
running the code using that, will let you interface with the pdb
thin pendant
Hmmm, ok. But I don't want to only debug my code. I need to debug sublime python engine.
Currently using Show Console to do it.
But I need to print because there is no input
I am developing some plugins
civic hound
I have not written anything for sublime itself
civic hound
what in sublime do you want to debug?
thin pendant
I am extending this plugin
With my own things.
I know I can print my way through and probably get there, but I am stubborn 😄
Also I want to do more things in future
I think I found something that might help me > https://pypi.org/project/rpdb/0.1.1/
Looks promising
civic hound
remote access to the debuger?
honest elm
@civic hound But u know someone ho ises vscode?
topaz aspen
Is continuous integration an alternative to makefiles? I was under the impression that they played nicely, rather than competed. I don't know / use either though
https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/234574/what-is-the-benefit-of-continuous-integration-over-make
tawny temple
No, you could very well invoke make in your CI
CI is meant to run on a server and be automatically triggered
and it can do whatever you want, be it run tests or whatever
topaz aspen
@tawny temple hrm - so if i use pytest locally, i would also use them on the server? Or only on the server? Or, is one typically testing for something different on the server vs locally
tawny temple
It's the same
topaz aspen
so CI rules out having to bother with local testing, it's a replacement for it
( is that a fair comment? )
tawny temple
I'm not sure. I think it's more of an insurance policy but I suppose you could just rely on it for testing if you can't be bothered to run locally.
violet belfry
You should still test locally
tawny temple
Ideally you should strive to not commit broken code to beign with
so you should test it
topaz aspen
i don't get why we have both though
seems redundant, isn't that what we're trying to avoid most of the time?
violet belfry
If you push something and CI fails, what do you do?
You either get an extra commit or have to force push a change
Neither of which are good options
topaz aspen
i mean - if my tests are poor enough locally why would they be good enough remotely?
violet belfry
What does that have to do with what I asked?
topaz aspen
If you push something and CI fails, what do you do?
i wouldn't be able to if my local tests had caught it?
violet belfry
Aren't you arguing for not testing locally?
topaz aspen
i'm arguing for one or the other
tawny temple
There's nothing that forces you to test locally before pushing
topaz aspen
either write decent ones locally, or have decent ones in CI, having both is confusing to me atm
i thought that's what git hooks and stuff were for?
tawny temple
CI enforces tests, which can't be enforced locally for every developer
violet belfry
You can't reject a push
Well, you can if you control the git server
A git hook is still testing locally
topaz aspen
@tawny temple fair enough - seems that just having CI would be best then
timid jolt
I want fast feedback, so I test locally. I (we) want certainty about what is pushed through to production, so I (we) test in my (our) pipeline.
topaz aspen
@timid jolt are the tests mirrored?
mystic parrot
is there a way to run selenium on windows apps through python?
timid jolt
@topaz aspen unittests I run locally and often, they are fast. Integration tests and stuff like mutation testing might take longer, so I just make sure these run in my pipeline. But I could run them locally if I wanted to. It's all about tradeoffs. But I really, really like the fast feedback of those unit tests.
woven stag
So, vscode keeps showing this about a repository that I don't have anymore. How do I get rid of it?
warm pollen
Delete the .git folder
woven stag
I did
warm pollen
It is hidden by default on windows
woven stag
It was on a folder I was using earlier
Unless it got copied somehow but I don't think so
warm pollen
And on a top level folder?
woven stag
Does git creates top level folders with git init?
I used the bash without admin privileges so I would assume it doesn't
woven stag
Ok, nvm, figured
topaz aspen
@timid jolt thanks... I'm trying to understand the workflow, I've neglected it for a while
true vapor
I'm following this Docker tutorial almost exactly (the only change is that I've removed maintainer from the dockerfile because it gives an error), and it just won't run.
I'm like 90% sure I'm being dumb in some way, but I can't see it. Could someone have a quick look at the tutorial and tell me if there's any chance its wrong?
https://runnable.com/docker/python/dockerize-your-flask-application
tawny temple
Do you get any errors?
The dockerfile looks fine at a glance
You could use an updated base image with ubuntu 18.04. Not relevant to the issue though
true vapor
I didn't get any errors. I just changed the name to something else and it ran. 0 clue why it worked now but not then
somber dirge
does anyone know how to give the file explorer in vscode root access on a linux vm i am sshing into?
mint kiln
Hello, quick question,
I recently downloaded pycharm, and I started using jupyter notebook. I want to edit/create notebooks in pycharm which I can do now, but I am wondering if it is possible to have how a jupyter notebook looks like in pycharm?
ivory knoll
hey guys, since noone replied to this ^ and it has been a long time:
How to change interpreter from python to python3 in vscode coderunner
warm pollen
@honest wren you need to add the .gitignore to your repo, using git add like with other files
@ivory knoll doesn't it already run 3.x?
ivory knoll
it runs python, not python3
warm pollen
I mean, even if it says python, doesn't it run 3.x, have you tested it?
ivory knoll
nvm figured it out in settings
trim schooner
oo so I found what is Jupyter notebook shortly followed by Jupyter Labs.
Chaching!!! Where have you been all this time!!!!!
heavy knot
Need some help with Pycharm, currently running ver 2019.3 Community edition installed via snap on linux. Basically, after a while if i launch a project pycharm will open in two windows as shown here. How can I stop/revert it back to one window? There's absolutely nothing of use in the empty window and closing it closes the entire application.
trim schooner
probbably a setting in preferences somewhere
keen breach
Anyone here with experience with Nuitka??
I'm trying to compile two python files and two wav files into an executable, but i have no idea what to type in the console. I have installed everything and it is ready.
I really need some help!!😅
analog kettle
Can you configure pycharm to kill the script you're running if it exceeds a certain memory threshold?
ivory knoll
guys, how to change the original run function from the first one to the second? vscode
heavy knot
hello i need help pls
so i successfully established a connection btw mysql and python and now when i was running my mysql queries on pycharm to actually run it on mysql
and i was able to create table from pycharm into my mysql
but i was not able to insert the values into the table
help me!!!
twin hull
I would like to get started with vim, having a few things to do. How to enable python syntax? I think it's in my .vimrc file?
and autocompletion?
twin hull
also, how to use code key combination on Mac?
Control-c (redo) doesn't seems to work
I'm also searching for a colortheme close to sublime
please ping me if you know, I'm a bit lost under the huge number of package
warm pollen
@twin hull you'd need some plugins, plus a plug-in manager, because as a good developer, you're too lazy to manually install them :D
twin hull
@warm pollen Yep I know that but I would like some help on which plugin/package manager to take, since there is a lot of them 😉
warm pollen
Aha okay, I could give you my setup, but it highly messed up, I don't really suggest you to copy it :D
@pure pulsar is a vim user iirc, maybe he have some better advices
pure pulsar
i am
i'm still using vundle on my vim config, but i think vimplug is more modern, i just didn't make the switch, it's not a very important decision anyway, they kind of all do the same thing
for color themes i have been using the base16 collection for quite some time now, there is a lot of choices in there, and you can configure both your terminal and vim to use the same, and switch between them easily enough, so it's worth setting up imho
(using base16-chalk at the moment)
i don't think ctrl-c should redo, it should cancel the current operation, if anything
you might be thinking about ctrl-r no?
(i don't suggest you copy my setup either, but it's on github.com/tshirtman/.vim if you are looking for inspiration or specific technical things, but a lot in my settings certainly don't make sense to other people)
warm pollen
CTRL + C move the process to background if you are in the default mode, doesn't it?
Maybe not on Mac though
pure pulsar
ctrl-z
warm pollen
Ah yes
pure pulsar
ctrl-c is kind of like escape, but not exactly
warm pollen
C is keyboard interrupt
twin hull
ok, first I'm looking for a package manager (if there is some), and a python-completion plugin (I think)
twin hull
color themes also need to be installed, am I correct?
twin hull
I'll try it, as for now it's all white and very tiring
pure pulsar
it's koehler sorry
twin hull
is A.L.E good for python? https://github.com/dense-analysis/ale#usage-completion
finite fulcrum
when doing a rewrite of the base of my program, should I create a clean branch or base it on master? Considering I'll probably recycle a good amount of code from it but move it around or change some of the structure
thorny shell
up to you honestly
which git history do you think will be least confusing?
I think I've done both
finite fulcrum
the master rn is not the best since it was my first project so there's also that. But I know that at least the main file will pretty much be a straight copy excluding some renames
thorny shell
I suspect it doesn't much matter.
tawny temple
I agree. It's your preference. Personally I would not create orphan branches - if I wanted the history to diverge I'd rather create a new repository.
finite fulcrum
When going with the basing off of master, how should the commits be stage when I'm replacing the logic behind an entire class?
Delete it whole and then gradually build up, or leave the static elements and replace around that
thorny shell
again up to you
ideally, you'd make it so that each commit "works"
i.e. each commit is a fairly small change that leaves the project in a good state
but that's often hard to do, and isn't terribly important if you're just poking around on your own
heavy knot
is there in platform where i can show case my python programs to the world
smoky grail
why not put it up on Git(hub|lab) etc and post in #303934982764625920
brisk rock
I would like to develop python in neovim
using coc-python
and some linter
I tried pylint and flake8 already but their startup times in the editor were super slow
anyone have suggestions for how I can get a linter to start up super fast in vim?
echo crane
distant sun
Hi! Is there a way to do breakpoint debugging for ipython
topaz aspen
@distant sun breakpoint(), this question would be suitable for #python-discussion though ( i think...)
I'm wondering if - in vscode - there's a way to view changes that have been made to a file. It will pop up warning me about closing a tab but i'm not sure whether or not i should care about closing it. I don't want to not save on the off chance I've done something useful, i don't want to save as i might have deleted stuff by mistake
distant sun
@topaz aspen Yeah I saw that, I tried it but it didn't work like how I had envisioned it
I'm just glad that they introduced this feature in 3.7 when the previous methods were so hacky
@topaz aspen Wouldn't you be using git for that?
topaz aspen
@distant sun no this is just a file change in editor
tawny temple
IIRC I needed this https://pypi.org/project/rope/
kind chasm
it should be working with the language server
but even with rope installed, it does not work
mental mason
Im not sure where to ask about systemd so pls tell mr the correct channel, im trying to set up systemd for my python bot and seems like it gives me exit code 1
What does exit code 1 FAILURE mean?
finite lichen
it means that the command you specified in the unit file failed and returned an error
to view the logs of that unit use journalctl -u <unit>
pure pulsar
if it asks for an encryption key, you probably entered :X not :x
finite fulcrum
switch to it
in the cli it's git branch <branch> for just creating it, but you'll see git checkout -b <branch> more because that creates it (the -b) and then switches
rare ginkgo
Hello guys, do you guys have any idea why some of pdf files I downloaded with scrapy is corrupted? It only download 35kb for each file which is very strange. Any help is very appreciated
heavy knot
hey guys, i've deleteed a file in my pcharm but it won't delete in github after a commit.
true vapor
Are you pushing the commit to the remote?
vivid cargo
git push after git commit
fading tiger
how would i splice the second arg as a string?
this is what it gives out
but i actually want it to remove the first 13 characters of the second argument
or how would i have an absolute path going from the home folder?
vimscript btw
terse flicker
does anybody know what i need to change to show all my venvs as interpreters in vscode?
heavy knot
@true vapor @vivid cargo i'm not quite sure what you guys are saying. After I commit the project to my github, the folder "Data" still appears despite beind deleted in my pycharm. https://github.com/tscheer100/MLBStats
fading tiger
how do i pass local variables after ! in functions?
vimscript
okay so you apparently use execute to easily pass in variables
function! s:SaveAndPush(filepath)
w
let sourcepath = expand('%:p')
let goalpath = l:sourcepath[13:]
execute '!sh ~/.config/nvim/codepush_one.sh "' . l:sourcepath . '" "' . l:goalpath . '"'
endfunction
forest bay
PyCharm if you're primarily working with Python, it has a lot of features like deep type analysis, code inspections, powerful built-in Python debugger, pytest integration, and not to mention hotkeys specific to Python
@wheat spear
wheat spear
ahhh ok
frank compass
I use jetbrains IDEs when working on a project and VSCode when working on a file
blazing otter
hello
i want to use heroku
and i need a text editor
so I used atom
idle and pycharm work fine
but atom says no python found
please hel[p
true vapor
I'm not sure exactly what the module browser there is doing. But with Pycharm you can see your installed packages
something like file-->settings-->project-->project interpreter
final ibex
@heavy knot Did you do a git rm <name_of_folder> and commit that? deleting a file/folder isn't enough to get removed from your repo.
heavy knot
@final ibex someone else helped me out but i'll keep that in mind. thanks
topaz aspen
are there any subtleties to using Makefile's one should be aware of?
I'm just wondering whether there are any common pitfalls
final ibex
What are you using it for?
If your just defining some functions to do an install or test for your python project you probably don't need to worry. If you're compiling c code you probably have a lot more to think about when deciding what flags to pass.
topaz aspen
@final ibex no C code - using it for building datasets up
so it's all python, shell, and R
final ibex
If you're just using it as a place to store some set up commands that could basically have been put in to a script then as long as your commands make sense and if they connect to a service (like a db) they are up; you should be fine.
topaz aspen
cool, just wondering if there were any common sort of mistakes or whatnot that could be carried out through ignorance
but yeah - what you say is what's being done basically
final ibex
I'm no expert but the way I see most people use it in the python world is essentially an alias but leveraging make which loads of people are already familiar with.
topaz aspen
basically it - i might have make data1 and that'll be a series of scripts
i have been writing scripts with 00_, 01_ prefixes (tidy R style)
but it's actually kinda annoying, and pretty fragile
having things in a make file is (imo) a better way to document the order that things are meant to be executed in
i ended up having to write scripts that would change all the numbers and stuff lol, it's like some kinda interview question 🤦
final ibex
Yeah, sounds like it makes sense, ultimatly your in charge and as long as it works and hopefully doesn't make someone want to pull their hair out to read, you're good.
final ibex
lol, gd luck.
topaz aspen
Oh - one thing i was wondering was how to have a make rule for a file with multiple outputs
seems like it falls over there
makefile :
.PHONY: setup
OUTPUT_1 = output_dir/script_1_output.txt
# If make is ran with no other arguemnts (so just 'make' at the terminal) then
# it will run the first recipie that it finds, having help as the first recipie
# is therefore quite useful.
help:
@echo "setup1:"
@echo " run script 1 (creates output example 1) - similarly for setup2, setup3"
@echo "setup:"
@echo " run all setup scripts, creating all output files"
@echo "clean:"
@echo " clean all generated scripts and output files"
@echo "init:"
@echo " run setup.sh to create the three scripts for output"
################################################################################
SCRIPT_DIR = scripts_dir
OUTPUT_DIR = output_dir
################################################################################
SCRIPT1 = script_1.sh
SCRIPT1_OUTPUT = script_1_output.txt
setup1: $(OUTPUT_DIR)/$(SCRIPT1_OUTPUT)
output_dir/script_1_output.txt: $(SCRIPT_DIR)/$(SCRIPT1)
zsh $(SCRIPT_DIR)/$(SCRIPT1)
################################################################################
SCRIPT2 = script_2.sh
SCRIPT2_OUTPUT = script_2_output.txt
setup2: $(OUTPUT_DIR)/$(SCRIPT2_OUTPUT)
$(OUTPUT_DIR)/$(SCRIPT2_OUTPUT): $(SCRIPT_DIR)/$(SCRIPT2)
zsh $(SCRIPT_DIR)/$(SCRIPT2)
################################################################################
SCRIPT3 = script_3.sh
SCRIPT3_OUTPUT = script_3_output.txt script_3_another_output.txt
setup3: $(OUTPUT_DIR)/$(SCRIPT3_OUTPUT)
$(OUTPUT_DIR)/$(SCRIPT3_OUTPUT): $(SCRIPT_DIR)/$(SCRIPT3)
zsh $(SCRIPT_DIR)/$(SCRIPT3)
################################################################################
setup: setup1 setup2 setup3
@echo "setup all files"
init:
zsh ./setup.sh
clean:
rm -rf scripts_dir
rm -rf output_dir
setup script
mkdir -p scripts_dir
mkdir -p output_dir
################################################################################
script_1="
sleep 1
echo \"one one one\" > ./output_dir/script_1_output.txt
"
script_2="
sleep 1
echo \"two two two\" > ./output_dir/script_2_output.txt
"
script_3="
sleep 1
echo \"create script 3 output 1\"
echo \"three three three\" > ./output_dir/script_3_output.txt
echo \"create script 3 output 2\"
echo \"another (3) another (3)\" > ./output_dir/script_3_another_output.txt
"
################################################################################
echo $script_1 >> scripts_dir/script_1.sh
echo $script_2 >> scripts_dir/script_2.sh
echo $script_3 >> scripts_dir/script_3.sh
here's a self contained example - note script 3 will output two things
the rule that we have for script 3 is
SCRIPT3 = script_3.sh
SCRIPT3_OUTPUT = script_3_output.txt script_3_another_output.txt
setup3: $(OUTPUT_DIR)/$(SCRIPT3_OUTPUT)
$(OUTPUT_DIR)/$(SCRIPT3_OUTPUT): $(SCRIPT_DIR)/$(SCRIPT3)
zsh $(SCRIPT_DIR)/$(SCRIPT3)
but this will be called every time, whereas the rules for script 1 and script 2 will only be called when the data is older than the script (as expected)
topaz aspen
anyone used doit ?
https://pydoit.org/
acoustic epoch
Hello guys, ive been facing an issue - when i commit something (even at my repos) the commit messages are looking like -
I am working with pycharm most of the time
pure pulsar
hm, do you have your mail defined in the git config also known by github? and if you use multiple tools to manage git, do they all use the same email identity?
final burrow
Guys, I tried using VS Code but it does some black magic with my working directory.
If I modify a file, using VS Code, the file is modified in the interface but when I use a terminal, the file is not modified. It only truly modifies file when I commit the changes to git. it's very bothersome because I want to try changes before committing... I searched settings but did not find any relevant item. Any idea ? I use gitLens which might be the culprit.
@acoustic epoch You used different emails between the time you created the commit and the moment you rebased or amended your commit. @pure pulsar had the good idea.
Check your git settings:
git config user.email
git config --global user.email
And check PyCharm:
Settings > Version Control > Github
acoustic epoch
@final burrow Thanks, i managed to solve it somehow (i have no idea how lol)
finite fulcrum
Anyone know what could be going wrong with my REPL console in pycharm? After I updated it hands up on the first launch needing to be shut down through the process.
it has 2 REPL Communication and 2 Close Console communication background tasks running when the console freezes. Happened across all my pycharm projects so not linked to a version of python
sharp flare
Hi all just a quick question to get a feeling for it. What do you use for build automation in your projects. Not talking cicd tool but build tool (think make or maven)? What's your experience with your tool?
twin hull
I always used makefiles to compile librairies, that's my only experience with it. I don't know about maven
vivid cargo
Isn't maven for java?
graceful bay
supposedly it can be used for anything, but it's mostly Java (and other JRE languages)
pure pulsar
I've used makefile a lot too, because it's easy to get started with, the synthax can be sometime confusing, especially if you want to do non trivial things in a portable way, so in this case i prefer to write python scripts and call them from the Makefile.
finite fulcrum
@random breach 2019.3.2 and have ipython
random breach
try it with a fresh venv/install without ipython @finite fulcrum
or try uninstalling then reinstalling ipython in the current one
could be it's malformed or incompatible somehow?
finite fulcrum
shouldn't be the install is pretty fresh, and it only happens in pycharm for the first time. If I stop it the next launch never froze... will try without ipython if it persists without that too but not the option I was hoping for
random breach
did it work
finite fulcrum
haven't coded much yet and don't know how to reproduce it apart from it being the first console instance, but will try
olive warren
Does anyone know how to show Unicode Emojis colored in PyCharm (or in consoles at all) on Windows?
woven stirrup
hey was wondering if someone could help me w git rebase and squash ?
tawny temple
What about them?
stable cloak
Hmm. So I know you can create a .env file for when you use pipenv, but if I set the environmental variable within a PyCharm configuration, it only seems to apply to one script rather than the whole project. Is there a way to define it for the whole project or would I have to add that individually for each script I need it on?
tawny temple
@stable cloak yes, if you edit the Python run configuration template
stable cloak
Does the template not affect it for all future projects as well?
tawny temple
I don't think so. I think it's project specific.
stable cloak
I'll give that a shake then, thanks
Yeah, I think you're right, since the template also points to your current venv
Cheers
lime crow
i made a basic cpu benchmarking tool that tells you how long it takes for your computer to run calculations in millions of cycles and makes a text log of it and appends it
empty star
Hey, I made a discord bot with Pycharm and Notepad++. But I wanted to give Vscode a try, I have a few commands that have need files to work, all files are in the same category but somehow Vscode doesn't recognize them. How do I fix this?
acoustic epoch
How can i unattach pycharm windows?
finite fulcrum
separating the tabs?
you can drag them over outside for bringing them out of the window into a new one if that's what you want
fierce fable
hey
can somebody tell me how to use snippets in vim?
i don't know how to install plugins im so confused
fierce fable
so??
warm pollen
You want to install a vim plug-in?
You probably want to install a plug-in manager first
acoustic epoch
@finite fulcrum No, i have 2 attached windows, as you open a new window there is attach option, i clicked on that and now i cannot seperate it
finite fulcrum
open the project view on the left, find the project and delete it there
think that should do what you want
craggy parrot
I'm having problems setting up ST3 to use Python 3 on mac for a few days now and i'm on the verge on quitting. Can someone help me
craggy parrot
Seems like i'm only making it worse. Downloaded homebrew and can't seem to uninstall it.
finite fulcrum
@random breach console just froze without ipython, and took whole pycharm with it
I think it's somehow related to leaving pycharm open without doing anything with it
thorny shell
zenith skiff
True
split otter
it shows the same in PyCharm
i changed from utf-8 to utf-16 then it messed up like that
mental mason
I wanted to have 2 same git repo on my vps but with different name, can u clone a repo into different name?
Or do u have to manually change it?
violet belfry
You can name the folder whatever you want
mental mason
Alright thx
heavy knot
@split otter was the original fine name with space?
And if you have pycharm you should have local history of that file or you can see external changes to that
still vault
Anyone knows how i can solve my problem?
PyCharm don't save my fold state in project.
When i switch branches, files or anything else and then come back to project, everything is expanded and i should again manually collapse it.
mental mason
Kinda unrelated to python i guess but say u have made quite lot of bad commits, is it better to
- redo that repo and made good commits
- continue
Or - maybe make some kind of
rewritebranch?
Just want to know the good practice
thorny shell
honestly it depends on who uses that repo, and what their expectations are
if it's just you -- go wild
mental mason
It is just me but i think its not rlly a good practice to remove the whole repo just because most of the old commits are bad?
Maybe better off with making a reqrite branch which starts from 0
tawny temple
For a public repo (as in, other people actually use it), it's good practice to preserve the history.
If it's still public but it's really just for you, then you can rebase or whatever.
It's whatever you prefer at that point
mental mason
I think im just gonna have a rewrite branch, since ppl have starred it too (github) and i dont rlly want to delete the repo just cuz of bad commits
heavy knot
@still vault make sure you have access right to the config files and project files in that directory, like if you use root to create the project but use a user to modify the code
true vapor
@heavy knot This is probably a more appropriate channel. Have you set a custom theme for pycharm?
heavy knot
Yes, I have.
true vapor
Thats probably the issue. I've had issues with custom themes for pycharm before. I'd suggest either reverting to the default theme, finding a different theme, or playing around in the settings page as described in the page I linked ages ago
heavy knot
😦
Do you know if anyone of the popular Python editor like Atom and Sublime can run .py?
So I can use one of those instead of PyCharm.
true vapor
They pretty much all can. But I don't have experience with any of them to guide you through it.
VSCode, Atom, and Sublime Text are probably the three next most popular editors/ides
heavy knot
I will install VSCode and check it out.
vivid cargo
this is official microsoft documentation, i used it to configure my vscode for flask debugging and running, but you can set it up for regular python files too
still vault
@heavy knot oh. Ty for info, i will check.
topaz aspen
is it possible to prevent usage of rm on a file that's tracked by git?
For example - I just renamed some files and instead of using git mv I just renamed them, which means I then have all the D stuff in git, which I've then run git rm on... but I should have just used git mv from the start. I'm wondering whether there's any way to catch this kind of thing.
topaz aspen
@thorny shell ah... yeah i was hoping for some kind of hook / prompt that would warn me or something.
there should be a git linter 🤔
thorny shell
I do what you did all the time
I rename 'em, then I go back and "git add" and "git rm"
it's not that burdensome
although I confess: I use the most awesome git GUI ever. It makes that sort of thing super easy.
topaz aspen
wouldn't it save a lot of gumpf in git as well though ?
thorny shell
gumpf?
topaz aspen
nonsense / useless info
topaz aspen
really, fair enough, i will have a look - does the order of add and rm matter
thorny shell
"git rm" and "git add" don't create commits; instead they fiddle with the index
the index is what goes into the commit
topaz aspen
hm, haven't spent enough time getting the innards
thorny shell
but the index itself doesn't keep any history, so you can futz around with it as much as you like, and when you commit, there's no trace of that futzing; only of the final state
topaz aspen
currently trying to work my way through a project tho... i should really commit as i go 😩
thorny shell
hell yes
don't be afraid to commit. Those are undoable, too, as long as you haven't published them
topaz aspen
i've got in the habit of using git add -p
thorny shell
dunno what -p does
thorny shell
ah, I do the equivalent in my gui
topaz aspen
but i have convinced myself i can just do the lot later now, and it's a bit of a ball ache
which gui?
thorny shell
heh
topaz aspen
vscode doesn't have it
thorny shell
it's called "magit", and it's so awesome that I voluntarily pay money to the author (it's open source)
topaz aspen
the git porcalene thingy
thorny shell
well, the catch is: it's emacs 🙂
topaz aspen
yeah i used magit for a bit
topaz aspen
lol - it came with spacemacs 😄
thorny shell
huh
topaz aspen
the author was cool - he did a sponsored thing where he just took some time off and worked on issues or something lol
thorny shell
well it's the best UI for anything I've ever seen.
I think he's doing it full-time now.
topaz aspen
great
thorny shell
I pay (a very small part of) his salary.
topaz aspen
i bought him a drink lol
topaz aspen
no i just meant in donation
thorny shell
I think he's German if I had to guess
topaz aspen
that phrasing made it seem way more personal than intended
thorny shell
you used the beer-as-a-service protocol
topaz aspen
maybe I should try it - iv'e heard people use git fugative or something for vim
never bothered with that though
and vscode was kinda naff, so i just thought sod it i'll use the cli
topaz aspen
yeah i'm trash with emacs, i need vim keys
thorny shell
it's good to know the CLI, since it's always there
topaz aspen
yea... seems alright... though it can be kinda opaque i guess
aliases make some stuff a bit more bearable
topaz aspen
vimagit
@pure pulsar hm - from the looks of it it seems as though this would be an alternative to fugitive rather than a complement, don't they cover the same ground?
pure pulsar
I use them in complement, i use viamagit for index management, and fugitive for blame, diff and other stuff
pure pulsar
you just use different keybindings to call them
they are both frontends to git anyway, it's the one retaining all the state
acoustic epoch
Hello there guys
I cannot seem a way to delete a row with my mysql database with pycharm
I click on the row and delete it but nothing happens or the option is disabled
Oh wait, i just had to submit i think
heavy knot
Hi, I have my database on AWS RDS and it has its endpoint, how do I connect it with my docker-compose file?
db:
container_name: postgres
image: postgres:latest
networks: ['rasa-network']
ports:
- "5432:5432"
restart: always
environment:
- POSTGRES_USER=postgres
- POSTGRES_PASSWORD=pw
- POSTGRES_DB=postgres
volumes:
- ./postgres-data:/var/lib/postgresql/data
fierce fable
@warm pollen what?
regal ferry
@heavy knot you either use RDS or the container. That's a choice you have to make - where you run the database.
regal ferry
And i suppose you now have database clients which you want to point to RDS?
heavy knot
I'm ussing rasa chatbot stack so I want everytime a person chats to be able to store it into my postgresql db
this is my docker compose file:
db:
container_name: postgres
image: postgres:latest
networks: ['rasa-network']
ports:
- "5432:5432"
restart: always
environment:
- POSTGRES_USER=postgres
- POSTGRES_PASSWORD=pw
- POSTGRES_DB=postgres
volumes:
- ./postgres-data:/var/lib/postgresql/data
i'm failing to understand how to connect this properly
for example when i ssh into my coonsole in aws and i run docker-compose up
i get this so I think everything is ok with postgre image
any my rasa seems to be ok but when i go to localhost:5005 i'm confused since there is no txt file that usually appears when I'm running locally
@regal ferry
regal ferry
I really struggle to understand why you are having two databases. One in container, which is defined in the compose file and another one which is RDS. @heavy knot
heavy knot
I'm not sure too
because in tutorial with deploying rasa
they state we need to have it
By default, all conversations are saved in memory. This means that all conversations are lost as soon as you restart the Rasa server. If you want to persist your conversations, you can use a different Tracker Store.
Using PostgreSQL as Tracker Store
Start by adding PostgreSQL to your docker-compose file:
regal ferry
I see. That document says to use container with the database. If you decided to use RDS, remove the postgres container from compose file.
Configure RDS endpoint in the endpoints yaml
heavy knot
I have to use RDS if I want to go to produciton
In endpoints should I use:
tracker_store:
type: SQL
dialect: "postgresql"
url: "db"
port: 5432
#url: postgres
#login_db: postgres
db: postgres
username: postgres
password: pw
tracker stores like before or?
because this url: db is connect to my dockerc-ompose where db is stated
regal ferry
I think "url" should be pointing to RDS, it was previously pointing to the db container
heavy knot
yes
but why do they even say to point to db container if i want to go to production?
and this article is about production, that is why i'm confused
regal ferry
I strongly suggest if it's going to production you actually hire a consultant.
heavy knot
😦
regal ferry
Db container was for demo purposes. You could theoretically use it for production. I would not recommend.
I just see that your grasp on what's going on is not production ready so to speak. I think that it's in your best interest that someone more experienced does that.
... or shows and guides you
... and that's not me if you were wondering (no time)
heavy knot
I understand
do you have any advice if I want to learn myself
is there any good blog about deploying on aws and production
or something
regal ferry
Read all relevant official docs and make sure you understand all of it. VPC, RDS. Whatever you use to run your containers on (ECS?)
heavy knot
I run ECS
with my docker image
and made a task
but in my head it isn't all clear with this docker part and connecting it into production
for example my image that I get on ECS
should it have this docker part of postgre or not
regal ferry
Then that part requires investigation and docs reading .
You have to be clear on things before you go to production
You are choosing between running docker for postgres or using RDS? Use RDS
heavy knot
Yeah I already set up RDS, that is great then but I have to have ECS anyway
beaucase I have trained rasa ML model
regal ferry
For the app yes, not for additional postgres
heavy knot
Ok, but for example when I connect my image with ECS, should I connect my ECS instance with my domain, or should I have a ec2 instance too?
and connect that ec2 instance
regal ferry
I don't understand where ec2 comes instance appeared now. You didn't mention it before. I'm struggling to understand the situation
heavy knot
In general my situation is like this
I have a chat box that hasa front/backend
and that connects to rasa model when it needs to get response
and saves conversations into postgresql
and i have db deployed in RDS
what would you say architecturaly what do I need to have
to make this work
this is my docker compose file currently:
version: '3.7'
services:
react:
container_name: react-app
build:
context: ./conf/react
networks: ['rasa-network']
ports:
- "80:80"
rasa:
container_name: rasa
image: rasa/rasa:latest-full
networks: ['rasa-network']
ports:
- "5005:5005"
volumes:
- "./rasa-app-data/:/app/"
command:
- run
- -m
- models
- --enable-api
- --cors
- "*"
- --endpoints
- endpoints.yml
action_server:
container_name: rasa-action
image: rasa/rasa-sdk:latest
networks: ['rasa-network']
ports:
- "5055:5055"
volumes:
- "./rasa-app-data/actions:/app/actions"
db:
container_name: postgres
image: postgres
networks: ['rasa-network']
ports:
- "5432:5432"
restart: always
environment:
- POSTGRES_PASSWORD=${POSTGRES_PASSWORD}
- POSTGRES_DB=${POSTGRES_DB}
- POSTGRES_USER=${POSTGRES_USER}
volumes:
- ./postgres-data:/var/lib/postgresql/data
networks: {rasa-network: {}}
It will take us years to unwind the situation over this chat here. I think your best shot is to hire a professional. Sorry
heavy knot
😂
I really fully explained it now
can you say what do you think atleast
how would you do it
on info you got now and this docker compose file
regal ferry
You explained does not equal I understood it :)
How docker compose fits ECS? What ec2 instance is doing in the mix? And so on... Nope, it will not work here
heavy knot
You can forget ec2
i've built my docker image from docker compose
using docker build
actually i build my image through Dockerfile
that is what is my problem here
why do i even have this docker compose
i just followed instrucions on that part
regal ferry
I guess I would configure whatever needs the database with the RDS endpoint
heavy knot
and i too dont undestand how does docker compose actually help me at all
regal ferry
Docker compose is for demo purposes. Forget it. It's instead of Terraform or CloudFormation
heavy knot
Oh okay
so docker compose is basically like localhost aws?
and now i do everything on aws that i did on docker compose part by part
like postgresql putting on rds
regal ferry
Yep, sort of
heavy knot
Thank you very much for your time! 🙂
regal ferry
Welcome!
real atlas
Ask if I am creating a tool in Python and it is already created and I compile it but I will add licenses as it would be so that only 1 user to whom I gave the license and the tool can use it if the user passes it to another does not work alone to which I pass it?
mental mason
In what case git reflog would be used?
mental mason
Alright
How do u delete commits of a deleted branch? I deleted a branch without merging it and that causes the commits to still appear in the log
How do i remove them?
fierce fable
autru ca sudo -s
delicate gorge
Git log operates branch wise iir
C
I don't think that should be happening?
But I'm not a git master mind
regal ferry
Git dev mind then? 😝
charred vortex
is there a way to reference the project directory when setting the script path in a run configuration?
in PyCharm
like this
mental mason
I read some info and it does mention that if u delete a branch without merging it with other branch, the commit stays since u only delete the pointer
true vapor
@civic hound About beginners starting with Thonny vs Pycharm
I'm not entirely sure how true the point about beginners not ignoring visual clues is, but I guess it is true for a fairly large subset of people. The advantage of starting with Pycharm is that as you start wanting to use the more advanced things, they're there for you and ready to use; plus if you ever switch, you don't have to relearn all the shortcuts you used as a beginner
civic hound
so anyone, including beginners and experts, have a limit to what they can store in their memory at any given time
the number of things you can remember we cant argue about, but if you go by the experts min and max lets say 5-9 things
this goes for anything really. not just code, but any visual input
so if a user see 3 different buttons on the screen, they have used 3 spots of their mental available capacity
if they have to keep track of those three buttons while they read code, they have only room at worst to store 2 peaces of information in the code
so once the user are familiar with the three buttons, they can ignore them and use the full capacity for the code
now, this is the main problem of pycharm for a beginner
it is visually very verbose
true vapor
I can definitely see that its a problem, but I'm not sure I can see the extent of the problem fully. It seems to me like the best choice is going to be dependant on the learner. Although I do agree that you're not going to have problems starting with Thonny, but you might have problems starting with pycharm