#tools-and-devops | Python | Page 39

ripe citrus Dec 21, 2019, 10:59 PM

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which cant be outside of the if __name__ == '__main__': if im importing index

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otherwise

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circular import

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discord-py is what causes the circular import

timid echo Dec 21, 2019, 11:00 PM

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Unfortunately it's hard to give more informed help given I am not familiar with that code base.

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So I will believe you that there's circular importing.

ripe citrus Dec 21, 2019, 11:01 PM

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if you ever decide to make a discord bot with python you'll know that it's impossible lol

timid echo Dec 21, 2019, 11:01 PM

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Regardless, vscode couldn't figure that out =_=

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I have not done that before, haha

ripe citrus Dec 21, 2019, 11:01 PM

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its fun

timid echo Dec 21, 2019, 11:01 PM

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What kind of bot is that?

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That you're working on.

ripe citrus Dec 21, 2019, 11:02 PM

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its the only thing i can program lol

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since GUI stuff kills me

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umm

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its a bot for my server im making

timid echo Dec 21, 2019, 11:02 PM

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GUI is PySide2's strength 😉

ripe citrus Dec 21, 2019, 11:02 PM

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it implements a democratic moderation system

timid echo Dec 21, 2019, 11:02 PM

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Oh?

ripe citrus Dec 21, 2019, 11:04 PM

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so moderators are only given the power to !detain a member. once that member is detained, they will be isolated into the #detention channel and locked away from the rest of the server. In there, mods will decide their punishment, if any, and the member will be allowed to make an appeal

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ive decided to do this to avoid abusive mods

timid echo Dec 21, 2019, 11:04 PM

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That's neat, haha

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Where did you start learning to code for discord bot?

ripe citrus Dec 21, 2019, 11:05 PM

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its a political server and i dont trust mods to put their views aside and look at situations objectively

timid echo Dec 21, 2019, 11:05 PM

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Political server, eh? Oh boy that can get heated really fast.

ripe citrus Dec 21, 2019, 11:05 PM

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well i started a few years back i think when i was 15 and learned JavaScript (i know) to make a bot just cause i wanted to

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and that opened up a whole new world for me, and i found programming to be a passion

timid echo Dec 21, 2019, 11:06 PM

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That's great to hear.

ripe citrus Dec 21, 2019, 11:06 PM

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but unfortunately making bots is the only thing i can do lol

timid echo Dec 21, 2019, 11:07 PM

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That's a great start.

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Gotta start somewhere.

ripe citrus Dec 21, 2019, 11:07 PM

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i've always wanted to make desktop applications but i don't even know where to start with those

timid echo Dec 21, 2019, 11:07 PM

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Time to learn C++ 😉

ripe citrus Dec 21, 2019, 11:08 PM

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hell no

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Nim

timid echo Dec 21, 2019, 11:09 PM

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I think python + C++ is a great combo personally.

ripe citrus Dec 21, 2019, 11:09 PM

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i love python but its slow

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for desktop applications its horrible

timid echo Dec 21, 2019, 11:10 PM

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Yes, that's why you want to learn C++ to get more access to memory management.

ripe citrus Dec 21, 2019, 11:11 PM

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Nim is better

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Pythonic syntax

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plus compiles to C/C++

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Python should really be AOT compiled

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instead of JIT

hexed maple Dec 21, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Blender is done in Python and it's a desktop application

ripe citrus Dec 21, 2019, 11:56 PM

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@hexed maple if it was written in C++ the mem usage would probably be cut in half

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Python is slow, it shouldn't be used for desktop applications

plush tree Dec 22, 2019, 12:34 AM

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That's not necessarily true.

hexed maple Dec 22, 2019, 12:35 AM

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@ripe citrus if it was written in C++ the mem usage would be only 10%, because it would be so much smaller xD

finite fulcrum Dec 22, 2019, 8:35 PM

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QWhen making a larger feature in a project, like rewriting a class from scratch; how do you structure the commits? Just one commit that replaces it?

vivid cargo Dec 22, 2019, 8:40 PM

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i would make a branch

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and than rebase it

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or just a new branch with a merge at the end

pure pulsar Dec 22, 2019, 8:48 PM

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i tend to avoid rewriting from scratch, unless it's small enough it doesn't matter, it's better to, commit by commit, construct the new thing you'll be using, and start moving feature to it, adding tests as you go by, so the equivalent features are validated before being used, and when it's all done, you switch the code that uses the old class to using the new one, and finaly you remove the old one

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of course, if it's small enough, a one shot commit does the job.

finite fulcrum Dec 22, 2019, 8:57 PM

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for example this commit I just made https://github.com/Numerlor/Auto-Neutron/commit/934346598ece2a0cef2c548dd0baa84c5df2d15c Doesn't really make sense to replace it commit by commit imo but 1 commit feels like it's a bit squashed

pure pulsar Dec 22, 2019, 8:58 PM

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haha, i wish i would consider this a big commit

finite fulcrum Dec 22, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Don't really care about how the git looks at that project considering the cde

languid helm Dec 22, 2019, 8:59 PM

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It's a single file, and a single action you've done. That seems like a good one.

pure pulsar Dec 22, 2019, 8:59 PM

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the diff is not really nice to read, though, but not sure it can be made a lot better

tawdry pelican Dec 22, 2019, 9:44 PM

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yo so

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im using pycharm community to make my python based website

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this bit of snazzy work makes my authentication system: python def verify_reset_token(token): s = Serializer(app.config['SECRET_KEY']) try: user_id = s.loads(token)['user_id'] except: return None return User.query.get(user_id)

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no something cool is expect: is coming up underlined

vivid cargo Dec 22, 2019, 9:45 PM

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if it works then it works

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it is just suggesting that somehow it is unused

tawdry pelican Dec 22, 2019, 9:45 PM

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it says "too broad exception clause"

vivid cargo Dec 22, 2019, 9:45 PM

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ah

tawdry pelican Dec 22, 2019, 9:45 PM

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😄

vivid cargo Dec 22, 2019, 9:46 PM

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because it expects except FileNotFoundError or some other error

languid helm Dec 22, 2019, 9:46 PM

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It wants you to specify a specific error.

tawdry pelican Dec 22, 2019, 9:46 PM

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right

vivid cargo Dec 22, 2019, 9:46 PM

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exactly

tawdry pelican Dec 22, 2019, 9:46 PM

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but itll still work?

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as in, on paper it should work

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but will it be any issue if i leave it for now?

vivid cargo Dec 22, 2019, 9:46 PM

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try except Exception as e:

tawdry pelican Dec 22, 2019, 9:47 PM

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what does that do?

vivid cargo Dec 22, 2019, 9:47 PM

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if error pops up you can identify is as e and do whatever you want to do with it

tawdry pelican Dec 22, 2019, 9:47 PM

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right

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looks good

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i also forgot to add @staticmethodonto the top of that xD

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anyhow thanks!

vivid cargo Dec 22, 2019, 11:14 PM

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👌

timid echo Dec 23, 2019, 2:33 AM

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@ripe citrus I think I may have figure out the most simplest way to reproduce the "Find All References" bug with VS Code. Let's say you have a module that's importing something through its __init__.py, and the you have a python file importing it through that, then it seems to lose track of that usage and it does not show up in "Find All References".

ripe citrus Dec 23, 2019, 2:34 AM

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I'm not exactly sure how __init__.py files work 🤷

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or why they exist

timid echo Dec 23, 2019, 2:35 AM

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I was looking through the colour-science pip package and was trying to jump the various imports it has.

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It has trouble with even "Go to definition".

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I could be wrong, but basically it could be used as a way to import modules that can be commonly used by other python files in that same module.

ripe citrus Dec 23, 2019, 2:41 AM

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For some reason Python doesn't recognize directories that aren't either the main directory or one with an __init__.py

timid echo Dec 23, 2019, 2:41 AM

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Hmmm it should, no?

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Or are you talking about the python extension of vscode specifically?

ripe citrus Dec 23, 2019, 2:42 AM

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if you don't have __init__.py then you can't import from the folder

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outside of the main project folder

timid echo Dec 23, 2019, 2:42 AM

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Oh yeah that's just python's way to initialize it.

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I'm gonna try to check it through Pycharm and see.

ripe citrus Dec 23, 2019, 2:43 AM

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I just don't get why Python doesn't just do that by default

timid echo Dec 23, 2019, 2:45 AM

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In Pycharm, it can go to definition no problem.

ripe citrus Dec 23, 2019, 2:46 AM

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Python extension is just shit 🤷

timid echo Dec 23, 2019, 2:46 AM

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I will have to write a ticket to vscode's GitHub then.

ripe citrus Dec 23, 2019, 2:46 AM

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good luck

finite fulcrum Dec 23, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Any idea how pycharm's repeated code block inspection works?
Got a 1 command if else block that's repeated 4 times in my code with the same structure that isn't highlighted but a larger setup on different variables that's repeated twice got highlighted

tired aspen Dec 23, 2019, 9:39 PM

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yes I've noticed it kicks in only after a number of lines too
I guess you'd need more powerful tools to pick up more duplications

worldly otter Dec 24, 2019, 3:55 AM

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hey guys

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I'm following this one tutorial and the guy is using vscode and hes navigating to a link called new project

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but I don't have it on my vscode versoin

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can someone help

tired aspen Dec 24, 2019, 3:57 AM

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sounds like a custom package
what type of project did it create

worldly otter Dec 24, 2019, 3:58 AM

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I mean I'll try to send a screenshot

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but my vscode doesn't look like that

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mine looks like this for some reaosn

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can you please help me fix it

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can someone please help me because I can't get startted without it

tired aspen Dec 24, 2019, 4:12 AM

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um that's not vscode it's visual studio

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blame microsoft for naming two things with very similar names

dusty arch Dec 24, 2019, 7:42 AM

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Hey guys i want to create a tool

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that download, torrent on heroku and then it will upload to gdrive

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can i do this?

timid echo Dec 24, 2019, 8:05 PM

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@ripe citrus https://github.com/microsoft/python-language-server/issues/1842 Hehe

GitHub

Goto definition on module displays two identical entries · Issue ...

ripe citrus Dec 24, 2019, 8:05 PM

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bruh

timid echo Dec 24, 2019, 8:07 PM

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We are getting ever closer to the heart of the problem, which is the language server. My ticket is there now and should hopefully be addressed later.

ripe citrus Dec 24, 2019, 8:08 PM

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Let's see if Micro$oft actually listens

mental mason Dec 24, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Say i want to rewrite the whole code of my project, i wantsd to create a new branch for it. Is it better to create an orphan branch for it or just new branch from initial commit?

tawny temple Dec 24, 2019, 11:16 PM

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If you don't want to preserve the history of the old version then create an orphaned branch IMO.

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However, the way I see it, branches are kind of meant to share history

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I mean that in the sense that it wasn't really designed so that you'd use it to have completely divergent history/different codebase

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If you don't even intend to keep around the old, original branch, then this is OK

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Otherwise I'd just create a new repository. Though if it were me, I would preserve the history to begin with.

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Just my opinion

mental mason Dec 25, 2019, 1:02 AM

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Its bot project and its currently on deploy, so making new repo is kinda too much

mental mason Dec 25, 2019, 1:57 AM

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Not sure but im probably gonna branch off from root commit of master

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Cuz eventually this will be merged back to master

empty star Dec 27, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Hi! I need some help with Pycharm. I made a new project for a new bot but my other project is gone.(It still exists) How do I get back to that project? Or show all projects?

turbid beacon Dec 27, 2019, 1:53 AM

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do ctrl+n

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and drag the folders on pycharm

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@empty star

timid echo Dec 27, 2019, 3:28 AM

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https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=hoovercj.vscode-power-mode lmao

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https://github.com/hoovercj/vscode-power-mode/raw/master/images/demo-presets-particles.gif

heavy knot Dec 27, 2019, 3:29 AM

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wait that's not python

timid echo Dec 27, 2019, 3:30 AM

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It's just an extension for the vscode IDE for some fun.

heavy knot Dec 27, 2019, 3:30 AM

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I know, looks pretty epic

empty star Dec 27, 2019, 11:33 AM

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@turbid beacon Sorry for the late reaction but that gives me a searchbar, if I type in a file name I have it doesn't find it

empty star Dec 27, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Can someone help me with github? I have a repo, I wanted to add a file but it didnt show up

rotund kelp Dec 27, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Which steps have you done so far?

empty star Dec 27, 2019, 10:33 PM

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I did "add file" "choose file", picked my file

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that were the steps I did

rotund kelp Dec 27, 2019, 10:34 PM

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is that on github.com itself, or some application?

empty star Dec 27, 2019, 10:34 PM

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On github.com

rotund kelp Dec 27, 2019, 10:36 PM

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And in the end you created a commit?

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empty star Dec 27, 2019, 10:37 PM

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I selected 'commit directly to the master branch'

rotund kelp Dec 27, 2019, 10:37 PM

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hm, sounds like you did everything right then

thorny shell Dec 28, 2019, 1:31 AM

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you also need to push, if you want the file to appear on github.com

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@empty star ^^

empty star Dec 28, 2019, 1:32 AM

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@thorny shell Yeah I already got it to work, thanks tho

timid echo Dec 28, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Anybody here familiar with vscode and its C++ debugging? I know it's not python-specific but rather, more IDE-related...

timid echo Dec 28, 2019, 4:50 AM

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Ah never mind https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-cpptools/issues/3829

GitHub

Can't debug on macOS Catalina (LLDB) · Issue #3829 · microsoft/v...

Type: Debugger Input information below Please review existing issues and our documentation at https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode-cpptools/tree/master/Documentation prior to filing an issue. Descri...

brisk rock Dec 28, 2019, 5:01 PM

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Hi, does anyone use PyDroid3? I've installed tkinter, and what I wrote is syntactically correct, but nothing comes up....any advice?

fair heron Dec 28, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Is it true that a Pipfile is only used by the pipenv virtual environment...solution? And a Pipfile is not used without also using pipenv?

delicate gorge Dec 28, 2019, 9:41 PM

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iirc Pipfile is a specified standard by the pypa or even the psf but only pipenv is implementing it at the moment

stark condor Dec 28, 2019, 10:38 PM

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can someone help me with ffmpeg

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im using it with my python script and its giving me an error on some audio files

stark condor Dec 29, 2019, 6:58 AM

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i uh

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still need help with ffmpeg

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it seems to think that certain audio files i downloaded are video files

stark condor Dec 30, 2019, 8:20 PM

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nvm

brisk rock Dec 30, 2019, 11:11 PM

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@helpers: Hi, does anyone use PyDroid3? I've installed tkinter, and what I wrote is syntactically correct, but nothing comes up....any advice?

timid echo Dec 31, 2019, 6:04 AM

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VSCode 👀

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delicate gorge Dec 31, 2019, 12:15 PM

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thats gonna be virtual memory i doubt it can actually use so much memory on your machine

timid glade Dec 31, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Hello I just got an usb key as a gift
Is there any fun stuff i can do with it?

thorny shell Dec 31, 2019, 5:59 PM

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steal state secrets

vivid cargo Dec 31, 2019, 6:30 PM

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@timid glade
Install linux on it and plug it into rpi to host mc server? :P

timid glade Dec 31, 2019, 6:51 PM

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@vivid cargo i dont play mc

vivid cargo Dec 31, 2019, 10:23 PM

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:'(

frank stone Jan 1, 2020, 12:59 AM

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How is this %rootPath called, and what are similar ones?

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I want it to represent the path to the currently focused file

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Right now it only seems to represent the path of the opened folder

cinder storm Jan 1, 2020, 4:32 PM

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@frank stone try this ${file}

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if you need more ```
${workspaceFolder} - the path of the folder opened in VS Code
${workspaceFolderBasename} - the name of the folder opened in VS Code without any slashes (/)
${file} - the current opened file
${relativeFile} - the current opened file relative to workspaceFolder
${relativeFileDirname} - the current opened file's dirname relative to workspaceFolder
${fileBasename} - the current opened file's basename
${fileBasenameNoExtension} - the current opened file's basename with no file extension
${fileDirname} - the current opened file's dirname
${fileExtname} - the current opened file's extension
${cwd} - the task runner's current working directory on startup
${lineNumber} - the current selected line number in the active file
${selectedText} - the current selected text in the active file
${execPath} - the path to the running VS Code executable
${defaultBuildTask} - the name of the default build task

frank stone Jan 1, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Thanks

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it only seems to be opening cmd on the current folder, and nothing else

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If I do like this

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it will recognise, as windows says it can't locate cmddd.exe

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If I do this

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it only does this

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without the hi

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The extension I'm using is this:

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Ohh I found a new guy:

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Maybe it can do what I need

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Just need to change that command

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Ok. It's all very funny, but it doesn't work.

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It does the form very well, but at the end when it should execute the command, nothing happens

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Any ideas?

timid echo Jan 2, 2020, 12:30 AM

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What are you trying to do?

frank stone Jan 2, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Run the current file on cmd

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with shortcut

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Eg: I'm editing a python file, and want to test it on normal cmd

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without having to leave the VS Code

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so I press some keyboard shortcut and it executes cmd.exe CURRENT_FOCUSED_FILE

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or even better python.exe CURRENT_FOCUSED_FILE

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like if I was double clicking it

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Because this terminal doesn't show how the program will look like in reality, when double clicked the file

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timid echo Jan 2, 2020, 12:36 AM

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I don't think you need to do any of that. Just modify terminal.explorerKind to external. Then you can set up a key binding to Run Python File In Terminal to whatever you want.

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It should launch cmd and run your python file on there.

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I have it set that my key binding is Ctrl + All + Enter but it launches it in the integrated terminal because that's my set up.

frank stone Jan 2, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Ok, so I added "terminal.explorerKind": "external"

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what do I do now?

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This triangle still uses the internal

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And Run Python File In Terminal in the command palette does the same

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oh they are the same biskthink

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The other day I tried to change VS Code terminal to the external windows cmd.exe

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It did this:

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When was supposed to do this:

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It seems I don't like that "external console"

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So now I'm trying to just batch cmd.exe FILE

timid echo Jan 2, 2020, 12:53 AM

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I have it set so that F5 debug can be run from external terminal.

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So I just run the file through that.

frank stone Jan 2, 2020, 12:57 AM

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It's all nice, but this external terminal is not the same as mine, because it doesn't read some characters correctly and mine does

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timid echo Jan 2, 2020, 1:00 AM

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You can change the path of the terminal executable if that's the issue.

frank stone Jan 2, 2020, 1:01 AM

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How?

timid echo Jan 2, 2020, 1:01 AM

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In the settings. You can change the path of the terminal executable there.

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Search for terminal.

frank stone Jan 2, 2020, 1:02 AM

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But it's already cmd.exe

timid echo Jan 2, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Take a look at the command line that launched the cmd.exe, see if there's any flags or whatever you need to pass.

frank stone Jan 2, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Is it this?

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what should be the command line that launched the cmd.exe?

feral swallow Jan 2, 2020, 8:10 AM

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Sublime vs Atom

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Which one do you guys prefer?

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Can someone explain to me the difference between the 2? Some people say that atom has git hub integration but doesn't sublime have sublime merge? And what does hackable mean?

vivid cargo Jan 2, 2020, 9:14 AM

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Atom has excellent git and github integration

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But us very slow because its built on top of electron

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Sublime is a lot quicker and more responsive but it has gone deprecated

civic hound Jan 2, 2020, 9:18 AM

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that is not true

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sublime text is not deprecated if that is what you meant @vivid cargo

vivid cargo Jan 2, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Let me rephrase, developer support had drastically fallen down

civic hound Jan 2, 2020, 10:09 AM

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Thats not my feeling about it. i would say they do just as much now as they ever have done. but I might not have payed much attention the last year...

vivid cargo Jan 2, 2020, 12:24 PM

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it's support has fallen down a bit compared to previous years

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but not completely deprecated

silent flicker Jan 2, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Should I utilize a text editor or an integrated development environment? What are the key reasons to use either one?

dire quartz Jan 2, 2020, 2:57 PM

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As the name implies, an IDE is basically a text editor with a set of other tools useful for development built into it.

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Could be anything from a compiler, debugger, profiler, code analysis tools, etc.

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The advantages are pretty obvious, you get most of what you need in one convenient package all at once.

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The name "text editor" implies that the tool is mainly used to edit source files and not much else. Modern text editors usually support installing plugins that add integrated support for other tools, though. It still might not come with a lot of tools preinstalled.

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The distinction between these two is kind of vague, though. It's more of a spectrum than a clear border.

silent flicker Jan 2, 2020, 3:01 PM

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I understand, and what would you recommend for beginners?

dire quartz Jan 2, 2020, 3:02 PM

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The reason why someone might wanna go with more of a pure text editor is that the basic installable is smaller, it might require less memory to run by default, and maybe because you have very specific preferences when it comes to which tools you like to use, so you want to install certain 3rd party extensions that you really like, as opposed to those that come preinstalled in an IDE.

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Or you just wanna run those tools completely independently of the editor.

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I personally like to use an IDE, and I would also recommend it for a beginner. It means you don't have to manually select which external tools you want to use. It makes it easier to start using useful tools that will make your life easier.

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If you're coding in Python, I recommend Pycharm Community Edition.

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It might look a bit overwhelming when it starts up, but it requires minimal learning effort to just create and run scripts.

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And you can learn about all the other features as you go.

silent flicker Jan 2, 2020, 3:09 PM

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Interesting, because I initially chose Visual Studio Code alongside the Python extension, due to its apparent popularity.

dire quartz Jan 2, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Pycharm and VSCode are likely the two most popular choices.

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VSCode leans slightly more in the "text editor" direction, but it has quite a lot of features, so it's almost a stretch to say that it's a text editor and not an IDE. It certainly comes close to a proper IDE with the most popular extensions installed.

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But yeah, I personally prefer Pycharm.

silent flicker Jan 2, 2020, 3:13 PM

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I think that I'll install the PyCharm IDE and contrast the advantages with the text editor, since the latter can be equally useful for other languages, which in turn could streamline productivity(?)

dire quartz Jan 2, 2020, 3:16 PM

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Well, yes, there's some truth to that. At work I use Pycharm Pro, which also supports web languages (like JS, TS, HTML, CSS, etc), so I don't really need a separate editor for those, but Community doesn't, so if I didn't have a pro license, I probably would want to use something like VSCode when working with those other languages, and having to manage two different editors is a bit of a hassle. However, I don't think this should concern you much while you're still learning. Imo, it's more valuable to be able to start using a debugger with no extra configuration steps required, which Pycharm will allow you to.

silent flicker Jan 2, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Alright, I understand better now, thank you for the clarifications.

dire quartz Jan 2, 2020, 3:21 PM

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You're welcome!

frank stone Jan 2, 2020, 6:58 PM

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How do you unindent several lines of code at once in VS Code?

finite fulcrum Jan 2, 2020, 7:10 PM

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shift tab might work @frank stone

frank stone Jan 2, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Thanks!

fluid fossil Jan 2, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Guys i found a website called globfone which let you to make free call but instresting thing to note is when we call receiver did not see any number.my question is how it is done? If anyone know please help

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vivid cargo Jan 2, 2020, 9:38 PM

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#31# prefix

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It works in croatia

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If you are on GSM(android) it works

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Newer ios'es work too

north latch Jan 2, 2020, 11:56 PM

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Is there a way in pycharm to click on a method name and have it bring up the definition?

tawny temple Jan 2, 2020, 11:56 PM

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you can press ctrl + b

heavy knot Jan 3, 2020, 4:01 PM

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why i have this weird font in my terminal in vscode

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soft gorge Jan 3, 2020, 4:03 PM

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It would help if you would provide some code

heavy knot Jan 3, 2020, 4:04 PM

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i tried to change the font but nothing

soft gorge Jan 3, 2020, 4:05 PM

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You need to show us the source code otherwise we are unable to help!

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 1:20 AM

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my gitkraken client isn't working I have to use the command line

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how can I push via ssh keys? I have the public key added to my gitlab account and have both the public and private keys on my pc I am on

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 1:22 AM

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@frozen coral if the repo is set up properly, git push is all you need.

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 1:22 AM

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THat makes me loging

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username and password or not authorized for whatever reason

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I think ssh will work

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but how do I set my local git to push over ssh?

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 1:22 AM

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perhaps your remote uses https:// instead of ssh:

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git remote add ssh-origin ssh:user@gitlab.com I think

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 1:23 AM

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is there a way to check?

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 1:23 AM

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the gitlab site will tell you how to do it.

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git remote -v will tell you what you've currently got

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:-) 2020-01-03T17:23:43-0800 [Eric-Hanchrows-MacBook-Pro homedir] (master)$ git remote -v
github    git@github.com:offby1/homedir.git (fetch)
github    git@github.com:offby1/homedir.git (push)
gitlab    git@gitlab.com:offby1/homedir.git (fetch)
gitlab    git@gitlab.com:offby1/homedir.git (push)

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my repo has two remotes, named github and gitlab. It's fine to have just one remote, though

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 1:25 AM

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I got one push and one fetch, both start with https

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Is there a way to add the ssh method too?

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 1:31 AM

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yes I already showed you

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git remote add ssh-origin ssh:user@gitlab.com I think

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also, gitlab will have a detailed explanation on their site for how to do this.

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https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/ssh/

GitLab and SSH keys | GitLab

Documentation for GitLab Community Edition, GitLab Enterprise Edition, Omnibus GitLab, and GitLab Runner.

tacit tartan Jan 4, 2020, 1:39 AM

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i tried to drag the files to the github repository and got this error

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📎 unknown.png

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 1:53 AM

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I have no idea how drag-n-drop works in the github browser sorry

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@valid cipher no private messages please

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 1:59 AM

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To test whether your SSH key was added correctly, run the following command in your terminal (replacing gitlab.com with your GitLab’s instance domain):

ssh -T git@gitlab.com

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what is my instance domain?

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I am not running a server if that is what it's suggesting

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:01 AM

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probably gitlab.com 🙂

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:04 AM

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finally

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now I have both https and ssh

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but how do I specify which to use when pushing?

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:07 AM

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you can supply the "origin" name on the "push" command somehow.

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read the manual to see how.

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:08 AM

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but both https and ssh mention origin?

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:08 AM

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you can also remove the https: remote if you don't want it; maaaybe git will then let you avoid specifying the other remote, since it is obviously the one you want

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no idea what you mean by "mention origin"

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:09 AM

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when I did git remote -v both had origin in their name

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but I removed the https one like you said

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:10 AM

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shrug

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there's nothing magic about the word origin inside a remote name.

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It's conventional to name your lone remote origin, but you can name 'em anything you want.

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Your original one was probably just plain origin, and then I suggested that you add one called ssh-origin, so ... voila; two remotes both of which have origin in the name.

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if it helps: a remote is just a short name for a URL; its whole purpose in life is to save you keystrokes.

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:12 AM

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I see

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now It says fatal: No configured push destination. Usually I would just add the https link, but now I am using ssh, so what do I say the URL is ?

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:13 AM

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oh that means you need to tell git that your branch's favorite remote is the new one 😐

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I don't remember exactly how to do that. I think you can do something like git push master origin --hey-git-from-now-on-always-push-this-branch-to-this-remote-so-i-dont-have-to-type-all-this

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(the real option is probably a little bit shorter than that but you get the idea)

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(probably --set-upstream)

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:14 AM

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but what is the heygit part?

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the https url?

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:15 AM

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no, --set-upstream

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:16 AM

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$ git push master origin --set-upstream
error: src refspec origin does not match any
error: failed to push some refs to 'master'

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:16 AM

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well isn't your remote actually named ssh-origin?

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if so, use that

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:17 AM

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I have no idea

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:17 AM

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type git remote and see

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is this your first time using git?

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:17 AM

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In the command line, yes

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$ git remote -v
shh-origin      ssh:user@gitlab.com (fetch)
shh-origin      ssh:user@gitlab.com (push)

Doe sthat look right? It seems to generic

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:18 AM

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looks exactly right

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you were expecting a more complicated URL on the right-hand side, weren't you

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:18 AM

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yes

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:19 AM

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inorite

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:19 AM

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and not just user but my username

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:19 AM

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oh, well you might want to fix that and put your actual username in there.

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where by "might" I mean "there's no way in hell it's gonna work unless you do"

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I predict you'll get this ... eventually 🙂

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:21 AM

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Thank you, I hope so too

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:23 AM

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if it makes you feel any better, much as I love git, the command line is super hard to learn

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or, maybe that'll make you feel worse 🙂

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:23 AM

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Yeah, the stupid GUI application I usually use was doing anything right today

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It's still telling me I need to add a remote despite already having my ssh remotes in there

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$ git push
fatal: No configured push destination.
Either specify the URL from the command-line or configure a remote repository using

    git remote add <name> <url>

and then push using the remote name

    git push <name>

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ssh-origin      ssh:6q@gitlab.com (fetch)
ssh-origin      ssh:6q@gitlab.com (push)```

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I have my account in there

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and my gitlab account connects

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$ ssh -T git@gitlab.com
Welcome to GitLab, @6q!

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:26 AM

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hm, then I think user@gitlab.com should be git@gitlab.com

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it figures out who you are by your SSH public key, apparently; not the username in the URL

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although what you've got up there is subtly different from mine:

gitlab    git@gitlab.com:offby1/homedir.git (fetch)

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:28 AM

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man this gitlab guide is no good

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:28 AM

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you can probably read the git_hub_ docs instead, and just apply them to gitlab

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remember, gitlab is open source, so its docs and UI are going to suck 🙂

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ftfy

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:29 AM

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ddg isn't helping either

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not the greatest search engine

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:31 AM

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if you're daring, I have a plan!

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1. copy your .git/config file someplace safe
1. replace two sections in it with this
    [branch "master"]
            pushRemote = gitlab
            remote = gitlab
            merge = refs/heads/master

    [remote "gitlab"]
            url = git@gitlab.com:XXXXX/YYYY.git
            fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/gitlab/*
1. replace the XXX and YYY in the obvious way

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well I guess I don't know how to do numbered lists.

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I give that a 65% chance of working.

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I predict your file is already pretty close to that

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:35 AM

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Let me look at my file

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$ cat .git/config 
[core]
        bare = false
        repositoryformatversion = 0
        filemode = true
        logallrefupdates = true
[remote "ssh-origin"]
        url = ssh:6q@gitlab.com
        fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/ssh-origin/*

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https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/ssh/#multiple-accounts-on-a-single-gitlab-instance

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https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/ssh/#multiple-accounts-on-a-single-gitlab-instance

GitLab and SSH keys | GitLab

Documentation for GitLab Community Edition, GitLab Enterprise Edition, Omnibus GitLab, and GitLab Runner.

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git remote set-url origin git@<user_1.gitlab.com>:gitlab-org/gitlab.git

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Of course they don't say which of these parts I need to specify

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:38 AM

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sounds plausible

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:38 AM

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just user I guess?

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:39 AM

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I think you should make it look like mine, since I know mine works 🙂

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:39 AM

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I'm going to delete all remotes

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:39 AM

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"Multiple accounts on a single GitLab instance" sounds like a fairly advanced thing. Are you sure the applies to you?

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:39 AM

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no

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:40 AM

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maybe move the whole working copy aside, and clone it again

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crazy that there's no easy & safe way to share your screen or keyboard 😐

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:41 AM

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Yeah

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Maybe I should use github

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that seems to be the norm anyway

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 2:43 AM

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I don't think github is going to be any different. Their docs are probably better, but as I said: you can probably apply their docs to gitlab.

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you're struggling with git itself, not with gitlab specifically.

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so github is gonna be exactly the same struggle.

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Yeah you're right

feral swallow Jan 4, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Hello, can someone explain to me the difference between pulling, forking, cloning etc.

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I don't quite understand the distinction

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you push your commits

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and pull back other peoples commits

gusty dawn Jan 4, 2020, 1:59 PM

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yall suggest any good python scanners for my code ? looking for optimization security.. generally how crap is my code because I'm new.

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https://github.com/freeload101/Python/blob/master/CS_HIDE

GitHub

freeload101/Python

Various Python scripts. Contribute to freeload101/Python development by creating an account on GitHub.

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I can just look at my code and tell lot of places I could condence it but looking for suggestions like use async insted for loop requests.get

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 4:36 PM

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@feral swallow "pulling" means "getting all the new stuff from the remote repo, and then merging the new stuff into your branch"
"forking" means "making a new repo that is a copy of the remote one"
"cloning" is the same as forking

feral swallow Jan 4, 2020, 4:37 PM

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ok tnks

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 8:20 PM

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@thorny shell I managed to temporarirly fix my issues

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I have to enter a password everytime now but at least I can push

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 8:20 PM

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hah

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 8:20 PM

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I had to generate some access token

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idk why

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 8:21 PM

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the password thing is because you either don't have an unencrpyted private key, or forgot to start "ssh-agent"

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 8:21 PM

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It stopped working on it's own 2 days ago

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 8:21 PM

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don't you love that 😐

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 8:21 PM

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No

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 8:21 PM

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no?

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geez

frozen coral Jan 4, 2020, 8:21 PM

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sitty GUI client couldn't fix it either

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$cammed

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well, at least the GUI client works again without password

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Thanks for the help @thorny shell \

thorny shell Jan 4, 2020, 8:24 PM

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🎉

finite fulcrum Jan 5, 2020, 5:49 PM

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@ivory wagon i've found pycharm to be nice with the git integration and its other tools, but it's definetly heavy, maybe a bit bloated for a lighter user and could be a bit confusing for a newbie to setup

ivory wagon Jan 5, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Oh, I was looking for something simple with just the basic tools. I want to focus on learning programming, I don't need to build a big project

finite fulcrum Jan 5, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Pycharm is probably beyond what you need now but can't say it isn't nice

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vscode should be between a full blown ide and a simple text editor I think

ivory wagon Jan 5, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Yup, I'm liking it so far, I was wondering if Atom and Sublime could be a better choice

vivid cargo Jan 5, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Take a look at atom

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Its a bit slow when you load it with few dozen extensions but very beginner friendly text editor

ivory wagon Jan 5, 2020, 7:47 PM

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Is it good from the beginning? Like can I start writing Python right away? Vscode has everything python related in the python extension, does Atom do that as well?

vivid cargo Jan 5, 2020, 8:29 PM

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not really, you'll have to get 2 or 3 extensions to get your started

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linters and such

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if you want good out of the box experience, you might wanna take a look at vscode

ivory wagon Jan 5, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Yeah it's the one I'm using right now

ivory wagon Jan 5, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Though it's so cool that eivl (the admin) is using sublime and I can see some info about the project

finite fulcrum Jan 5, 2020, 9:46 PM

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I think most editors with plugins are able to do that because there are always a few discord focused devs

ivory wagon Jan 5, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Oh, I'll check if VSC has it

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Yup it does

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Ok i enabled it as well

vivid cargo Jan 5, 2020, 10:18 PM

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both sublime and atom has those features regarding rich presence

eternal mirage Jan 6, 2020, 3:58 AM

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hi i need help/have questions about git

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so in my python project, i made some uncommited changes to my code and have tested them. i dont like it and i want to revert the changes. ik how to do that but its still a lot of code i wrote that i dont want to lose

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im unfamiler with how branches work but can i somehow temporarly save these changes on a separate thing, and then safly revert the uncommitted changes?

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incase if one day i ever decide to go back to it

tawny temple Jan 6, 2020, 4:03 AM

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git stash push -m "some description" can be used to save all the uncomitted changes locally. If you want to save them on the remote (i.e. push them), then a new branch can be created with git checkout -b new-branch-name

eternal mirage Jan 6, 2020, 4:04 AM

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@tawny temple how do i switch to the branch, and back

tawny temple Jan 6, 2020, 4:04 AM

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git checkout branch-name

eternal mirage Jan 6, 2020, 4:05 AM

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master is the default right?

tawny temple Jan 6, 2020, 4:07 AM

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Basically yes

eternal mirage Jan 6, 2020, 4:08 AM

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i tried that but i commited to master

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i didnt want this to happen

tawny temple Jan 6, 2020, 4:08 AM

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did you use git checkout -b?

eternal mirage Jan 6, 2020, 4:08 AM

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what does -b do

tawny temple Jan 6, 2020, 4:08 AM

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Did you do it though?

eternal mirage Jan 6, 2020, 4:09 AM

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no after i made my commits to the new branch i reverted with git checkout master

tawny temple Jan 6, 2020, 4:09 AM

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I'm trying to figure out what exactly you did just now

eternal mirage Jan 6, 2020, 4:09 AM

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nvm

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i was wrong

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my changes were commited to the new branch and master now has the original changes like before

tawny temple Jan 6, 2020, 4:09 AM

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Nice

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What -b does is create a new branch with the current changes

heavy knot Jan 6, 2020, 11:30 AM

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how do we use imges in VCS?

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i can import them but they never show

rose mantle Jan 6, 2020, 5:45 PM

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I'm need some help with vscode... I just got a 2nd screen and I want to use one for the editor and one for the terminal output.
People in a forum said I should do crtl-k,o to get a 2nd window
But Ii doesn't work with what I want to do... It's just another instance of vscode in the 2nd window and has nothing to do with the other one.
pls help n tag me, so I can see

warm pollen Jan 6, 2020, 5:48 PM

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@lean thistle what is your problem? 😄

lean thistle Jan 6, 2020, 5:50 PM

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i was waiting for the other guy to finish lol

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essentially

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📎 unknown.png

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i originally thought my pip couldnt install any modules so i did a test

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it downloaded numpy so i was like oke good ,however, when i want to install spleeter it says error

warm pollen Jan 6, 2020, 5:52 PM

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You are using 3.8?

lean thistle Jan 6, 2020, 5:52 PM

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yea

warm pollen Jan 6, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Most packages (like spleeter) aren’t compatible with 3.8 yet

lean thistle Jan 6, 2020, 5:53 PM

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so i now have to re install 3.7 64 bit

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kk

frozen coral Jan 6, 2020, 10:13 PM

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I am currently on my master branch but I have some work done that is not commited/pushed

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Is there a way I can commit and push tha tot testing instead?

tawny temple Jan 6, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Is testing an existing branch or a new one?

frozen coral Jan 6, 2020, 10:24 PM

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existing

tawny temple Jan 6, 2020, 10:26 PM

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First, keep in mind whether the testing branch needs to be up to date with master on the remote. You can stash changes so they are saved while you switch branches. Do ```shell
git stash push
git checkout testing
git stash pop

Then you can commit and push as usual.

abstract creek Jan 6, 2020, 10:46 PM

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how does one do the .gitignore file

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mine isn't working

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https://github.com/LonnonjamesD/EconomyBot

frozen coral Jan 6, 2020, 10:47 PM

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You already commited that file

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.gitignore works on files not already tracked

abstract creek Jan 6, 2020, 10:49 PM

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how do I untrack it

topaz aspen Jan 6, 2020, 11:08 PM

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any ultisnips users? I've just installed and am trying to get a basic snippet working, but having little joy... what's the minimum i can do to test that it's at least doing something (given i can't seem to trigger a snippet with it)

topaz aspen Jan 6, 2020, 11:32 PM

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ignore that it's working now

gleaming skiff Jan 7, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Hello. I just started to learn git and I have a question -
Is there some approval or confirmation needed from repository owner to push your commit to the server (Github)?
I mean if anyone allowed to push to a server some shittty bored people might use it to break something out of fun or boredom. Of cource you can just return to the previous commit (it is a part of what Git exists for) but it needs time and effort, and someone can break something again and again.
Thanks in advance.

tawny temple Jan 7, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Yes. The owner needs to give others permission to push

gleaming skiff Jan 7, 2020, 12:14 AM

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@tawny temple Ah, so it's just that I pushed only in my own repopsitory, i didn't need any confirmation.

tawny temple Jan 7, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Yes

gleaming skiff Jan 7, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Ok, thank you.

thorny shell Jan 7, 2020, 12:16 AM

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@gleaming skiff more detail: sometimes a project accepts contributions from strangers, but has its repository locked down anyway. They reconcile that apparent contradiction by accepting "pull requests" -- the random stranger (i.e., you) pushes your stuff to your repo (which is a clone of the project's repo), and then you send them a message saying "Hey I made this cool thing, would you merge it into your stuff"

gleaming skiff Jan 7, 2020, 12:19 AM

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@thorny shell but a confirmation needed even if repository is not locked?

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in any case?

thorny shell Jan 7, 2020, 12:23 AM

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no

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if the repository isn't "locked", you can push all kinds of random stuff to it.

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That'd be rude, but you could do it

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but I don't think github even lets you have a wide-open repository like that

gleaming skiff Jan 7, 2020, 12:28 AM

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@thorny shell I think it's strange, from my perspective at least, to allow to do it without any means of protection. But as I can understand all major repositories are locked?

thorny shell Jan 7, 2020, 12:40 AM

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they probably are; I dunno

pure pulsar Jan 7, 2020, 10:37 AM

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I don't think i ever saw a completely open repository like that for code

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Wikis are hard enough to keep clean, with code it would be too easy to inject malicious things and go unnoticed

thorny shell Jan 7, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Back in The Day®️, the GNU project had a server that anyone could Telnet to. Eventually they figured out how stupid that was

rose mantle Jan 7, 2020, 9:07 PM

#

I'm need some help with vscode... I just got a 2nd screen and I want to use one for the editor and one for the terminal output.
People in a forum said I should do crtl-k,o to get a 2nd window
But Ii doesn't work with what I want to do... It's just another instance of vscode in the 2nd window and has nothing to do with the other one.
pls help n tag me, so I can see

violet belfry Jan 7, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Seems like it’s still an open issue: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/10121

GitHub

Allow for floating windows · Issue #10121 · microsoft/vscode

Hi, I suggest floating windows option for: Terminal Debug console Problems Output Eventually: tabs Explorer / search / debug / git / extensions This way we could take advantage of large screen spac...

violet hatch Jan 7, 2020, 10:35 PM

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how does pipenv stack up against conda?

violet belfry Jan 7, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Kinda an apples & oranges comparison

violet hatch Jan 7, 2020, 10:45 PM

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aren't they both package/virtual environment managers

tawny temple Jan 7, 2020, 11:50 PM

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pipenv isn't a package manager itself, but pip is

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pipenv doesn't really manage virtual environments, but it can create them

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The main feature of pipenv is the locking of dependencies

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Which is not a goal of conda

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@heavy knot click "add configuration" and create one from the python template

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Moving it here since that was not a discord.py issue

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 12:05 AM

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@tawny temple https://gyazo.com/67e8e506d067ad1100953bc041cf4612

Gyazo

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then what i do ?

tawny temple Jan 8, 2020, 12:05 AM

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click the plus on the top right

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 12:06 AM

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then ?

tawny temple Jan 8, 2020, 12:07 AM

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select the script that is the entry point for your program and then save the configuration

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 12:10 AM

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there are many Python, Shell Script ... Do i choose the first one ? (Python)

tawny temple Jan 8, 2020, 12:11 AM

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yes, the first

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 12:13 AM

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yes thanks worked, but how do i remove Unamed from the top right

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?

tawny temple Jan 8, 2020, 12:15 AM

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You mean how to change the name?

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 12:15 AM

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yes

tawny temple Jan 8, 2020, 12:15 AM

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If you click the dropdown then click edit configurations, you can select the config and edit the name in the box on the top

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Thanks.

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@tawny temple i was just testing to pirnt a word and it didn't why ? https://gyazo.com/689c57bfd7af4b6d5681f64e5567352d

Gyazo

tawny temple Jan 8, 2020, 12:33 AM

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did you specify test1.py as the script in the run configuration?

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 12:35 AM

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i don't think

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https://gyazo.com/4098d9469160389abdf335b453c49cc9

Gyazo

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what should i change here ?

tawny temple Jan 8, 2020, 12:48 AM

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the script path

frozen coral Jan 8, 2020, 4:13 AM

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is there any non-hacky way to get REPL in sublime text?

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ideally and ipython shell like in spyder

tawny temple Jan 8, 2020, 5:05 AM

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I summon @civic hound he may know

random breach Jan 8, 2020, 6:28 AM

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did yo try this package
https://packagecontrol.io/packages/SublimeREPL

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some googling yielded this
https://gist.github.com/MattDMo/6cb1dfbe8a124e1ca5af
and this
https://gist.github.com/pe224/ec5d7effa26e8f736fa2f6bb8f515606

civic hound Jan 8, 2020, 6:41 AM

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I do know that @tawny temple @frozen coral

frozen coral Jan 8, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Those are hacky

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I didn't think there was a proper native REPL, just wanted to make sure nothing changed since I last tried sublime 5 years ago

civic hound Jan 8, 2020, 7:06 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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this is how I have my sublime setup

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im not even sure what you mean by hacky @frozen coral

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sublime has the workflow of -> installing packages -> writing config inline in a file

cold gate Jan 8, 2020, 7:07 AM

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I think they mean native instead of using a package that extends the editor.

civic hound Jan 8, 2020, 7:07 AM

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sublime has no REPL, only an output window

cold gate Jan 8, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Although a lot of editors rely on the mechanism of plugins/packages to add functionality

civic hound Jan 8, 2020, 7:08 AM

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VSCode might have a REPL feature built in? im not sure if its by default or if its like sublime

cold gate Jan 8, 2020, 7:09 AM

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I don't know. VSCode has a bit more bloat by default, so could be

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 12:43 PM

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@lunar fjord How do you run a program from Sublime?

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When I use ctrl + b, it shows the input text, but when I type and press enter, nothing happens

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And I can even erase the input text, what is kinda strange

lunar fjord Jan 8, 2020, 12:45 PM

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I run the program directly from the folder

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 12:45 PM

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through Sublime?

lunar fjord Jan 8, 2020, 12:45 PM

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No

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 12:47 PM

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through the terminal?

cold gate Jan 8, 2020, 12:47 PM

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@heavy knot Sublime doesn't support interactively running a script without installing something like SublimeREPL

lunar fjord Jan 8, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Yes

cold gate Jan 8, 2020, 12:47 PM

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So, the output panel is only a static output panel

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 12:48 PM

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So I'll try installing this

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But how could I open through the terminal from my Windows?

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just typing cd before the directory?

lunar fjord Jan 8, 2020, 12:49 PM

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Why you don't double click on the file?

cold gate Jan 8, 2020, 12:49 PM

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You can navigate to the directory using cd

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cd.. will get you one directory up (the parent directory)

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 12:50 PM

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If I double click it would open at the PyChamr

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PyCharm

cold gate Jan 8, 2020, 12:50 PM

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The advantage of running a script from a CMD window is that the window will not close after the script finishes

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You could associate/open .py files directly with the interpreter

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 12:53 PM

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I get you, but when I save a project at Sublime it shows just a file

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with all the programs inside of it

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how could I let the programs separated?

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:07 PM

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@cold gate I installed the SublimeREPL, but how can I run a python file from it?

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:08 PM

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I want to try Sublime + Python, what plugins should I install? All I care about is black (or yapf, which one do you suggest?) and a linter (I don't know which one's the best)

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:08 PM

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@ivory wagon search for Kite

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:09 PM

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What is it?

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:09 PM

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a Python plugin for Sublime

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it's a very powerful autocomplete

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and it shows some nice things too

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You should try it

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Ok, thanks

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Is that all?

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Yeah

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I'm now trying to execute a python file from the Sublime

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Cool

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Is there a way to change sublime's appearance? I don't like the tabs, they look like old chrome

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:11 PM

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Yeah

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Preferences > Theme... > Adaptative.sublime-theme

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:13 PM

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I prefer the default one

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:13 PM

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But take a look at the side bar

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with the Adaptative and Default

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Go in View and put to show the Side Bar

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than see how it changes

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:15 PM

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What changed?

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Oh it's dark now?

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:17 PM

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@ivory wagon yeah

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Do you still like more the default one?

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Nah you are right

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Oof the settings are confusing

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:17 PM

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What do you mean?

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And, are you using the Monokai?

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Color Scheme

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Yea, monokai

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I mean that they're hard to go through unless you know what you're looking for

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Yeah

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@ivory wagon try to install this:

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https://kite.com/download/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=kite&utm_content=top-sublime-plugins

Kite - AI-Powered Python Copilot

Alan Carr

Download Kite - AI Autocomplete & Docs for Python

Kite is a free AI-powered autocomplete for Python developers. Code faster with the Kite plugin for your code editor, featuring Intelligent Snippets, Line-of-Code Completions, Python docs, and cloudless processing.

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Is it the best one? Is there an official one?

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:20 PM

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I guess it's better than the PyCharm autocomplete

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what do you mean by official?

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Try this one, it's awesome

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:20 PM

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I will

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Why did you get rid of Pycharm?

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:21 PM

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I've never tried it

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I've been using vscode for a while, wanted to try something more minimal

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I'm downloading Kite

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:22 PM

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What are you problems with the VSCode?

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:23 PM

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None, it's pretty good

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Ok so Kite is autocomplete

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Now I need a linter and an autoformatter

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:25 PM

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what is the linter for?

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:26 PM

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It highlights mistakes

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:27 PM

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and the autoformatter?

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Kite is installed

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The autoformatter makes your code prettier

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:28 PM

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How?

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Showing the PEP8 stuff?

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:28 PM

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It splits lines if they're too long, it puts spaces where they should be

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Makes it a bit more readable

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:29 PM

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When I put an If statemente and press enter is puts the spaces too

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with the Kite

cold gate Jan 8, 2020, 6:29 PM

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I'm using Anaconda for Sublime (with is unrelated to Anaconda/conda)

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@civic hound is our resident Sublime guru though

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:30 PM

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oh, nice

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I'll try this Anaconda

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:30 PM

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What does it do?

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:30 PM

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I guess it works like a cmd but on the Sublime

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@civic hound what linter and autoformatter do you use on Sublime for Python?

cold gate Jan 8, 2020, 6:31 PM

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No,I was more talking about the longer/autosuggestions mentioned earlier.

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I'm.not a fan of Kite myself

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Why?

cold gate Jan 8, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Anaconda brings IDE-like features to Sublime

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I'm not entirely happy with ethical compass of the company behind Kite

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:33 PM

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@cold gate, do you agree with this? is there something you would change? https://w3codemasters.in/best-sublime-packages-for-python/

w3codemasters

admin

best sublime packages for python - w3codemasters

Sublime Text Sublime Text is a commonly-used text editor used to write Python code. Sublime Text’s slick user interface along with its numerous extensions for syntax highlighting, source file finding and analyzing code metrics make the editor more accessible to new progr...

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:34 PM

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and @civic hound do you use a terminal inside the Sublime?

cold gate Jan 8, 2020, 6:35 PM

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I use SublimeREPL inside of sublime

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Of that list, I think I'm only using flake8/sublimelinter and Anaconda

ivory wagon Jan 8, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Ok, nice, are you using a formatter?

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:37 PM

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@cold gate What is the SublimeREPL for?

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It's showing up for me

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when I try to use the SublimeREPL

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could I run a Python program through it?

cold gate Jan 8, 2020, 6:42 PM

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Yes and it gives you REPL (just like you get when you open Python itself from the command line; you can type in Python directly and the result gets printed)

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:43 PM

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@cold gate but how can I use it?

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what should I type in?

cold gate Jan 8, 2020, 6:49 PM

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I'm on mobile and having dinner right now, but of you go to to this page and scroll down to documentation, you'll find some info on it: https://packagecontrol.io/packages/SublimeREPL

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Ok, thanks

heavy knot Jan 8, 2020, 9:33 PM

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@cold gate I didn't see how

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But doesn't Anaconda have it?

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It's at their site

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heavy knot Jan 9, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Can anyone give me resources to good youtube videos that learn basic linear algebra, from scratch?

true vapor Jan 9, 2020, 12:40 AM

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https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/18-06-linear-algebra-spring-2010/

MIT OpenCourseWare

Linear Algebra

This is a basic subject on matrix theory and linear algebra. Emphasis is given to topics that will be useful in other disciplines, including systems of equations, vector spaces, determinants, eigenvalues, similarity, and positive definite matrices.

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theres a link @heavy knot although this isn't really the right topic for the channel. #data-science-and-ml #algos-and-data-structs or an off topic channel would be better

tulip cosmos Jan 9, 2020, 1:30 AM

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i would suggest 3blue1brown's linear algebra series. i do wonder why you linked MITs college courses when he said youtube videos of basic linear algebra, but i digress

civic hound Jan 9, 2020, 6:48 AM

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@heavy knot sorry for the delayed reply, I was at the gym for an extended period of time 😄

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im using sublimeREPL to get a repl inside sublime, but i also customize it a bit

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i have a custom made build system that uses sublimeREPL, and i have added -i to the REPL so that i get an interactive shell once the code has finished running

delicate gorge Jan 9, 2020, 7:13 AM

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@tulip cosmos to be fair though 18.06 only require you to know that matrixes are a thing, not even how to do anything with them

true vapor Jan 9, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Yeah. This is a basic subject on matrix theory and linear algebra. MITs other courses have been great, and given that the description for this one matches very closely to what was asked, I'm confident this one is also good. @tulip cosmos

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Also. The videos are normally available on YouTube

ivory wagon Jan 9, 2020, 1:58 PM

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Hey guys, what formatter/linter/autocomplete do you use?

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Currently I'm using pylint, black and jedi

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But I'm not sure it's the best combo

true vapor Jan 9, 2020, 2:16 PM

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black/flake8 is a very common pair to use

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which I'm personally a fan of

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For autocomplete I just use whatever Pycharms stock thing is

topaz aspen Jan 9, 2020, 2:19 PM

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Do people typically put README.md files in subdirectories or just in the project root? I've been putting them in both, but I'm not sure if it's a bit odd... sometimes if it only relates to that dir it feels as though putting it in there is alright, but maybe it's just a sign i'm doing something off

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@ivory wagon black (as mentioned) is very nice, from what I've seen... Initially it was kind of jarring but now I'm used to it I'm quite a fan.

violet belfry Jan 9, 2020, 2:24 PM

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It depends, usually not but sometimes it’s worthwhile to have supplemental READMEs alongside complicated sub modules rather than trying to cram all of the information into the top level directory

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Realistically it would go into more formal documentation but that’s it’s own effort

topaz aspen Jan 9, 2020, 3:43 PM

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@violet belfry ok cool, thanks, as long as it doesn't sound daft I can roll with it 🙂

woven stag Jan 9, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Will I have problems if I have multiple interpreters on my computer? I think I read about something like this somewhere but can't remember

thorny shell Jan 9, 2020, 4:32 PM

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depends

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if you are smarter than I am, you might be OK 🙂

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I sometimes have multiple, and then sometimes I say "AAAgh this is so confusing" and delete all but one

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... and then later I say "geez, I only have python3.7? That's, like, so ooollld, maan! Let's get the shiny new 3.8!"

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lather, rinse, repeat

woven stag Jan 9, 2020, 4:34 PM

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I can see that being a problem lol

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But was talking more about stuff related to errors

thorny shell Jan 9, 2020, 4:35 PM

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sure, you'll get errors: you'll use one interpreter to install a package with pip, then you'll mistakenly try to access that package from the other interpreter

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then you'll get a "module not found" error

woven stag Jan 9, 2020, 4:36 PM

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Oh, that might have been what I read and was trying to remember

thorny shell Jan 9, 2020, 4:36 PM

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now if you're super-smart and super-organized, you'll never make that mistake.

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but in my experience, it's a bad idea to count on humans never making a mistake.

woven stag Jan 9, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Yea that's certainly not me, organization isn't my forte

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So, did you ever use MU?

thorny shell Jan 9, 2020, 4:37 PM

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dunno what MU is

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so I guess not

woven stag Jan 9, 2020, 4:38 PM

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It's this one https://codewith.mu/en/

thorny shell Jan 9, 2020, 4:38 PM

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never heard of it

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if I were you, I'd see what lots of other people are using, that isn't too awful, and use that. Pycharm, maybe, or VSC

woven stag Jan 9, 2020, 4:39 PM

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It's recommended in the automate the boring stuff book, apparently for beginners

thorny shell Jan 9, 2020, 4:39 PM

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if you use some IDE that nobody else uses, then when you have a question about it (and you will, I promise), it'll be hard to find someone who can help

woven stag Jan 9, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Yea I tried both, and now I'm downloading MU (the reason of my question)

thorny shell Jan 9, 2020, 4:40 PM

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well, try it and see; maybe it's so good that you don't mind that it's sort of obscure.

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hell, I use Emacs, so ... 🙂

woven stag Jan 9, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Will do. Thanks man

civic hound Jan 9, 2020, 5:45 PM

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@thorny shell MU is a great editor for beginners, you can check or take my word for it. its great for beginners

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also Thonny is great as well

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MU is more an IDE for beginners with python projects

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if you want to do circuitpython, pyzero, pygame, microbit with micropython and a few more

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its superb for that use case

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I also think it ships with raspbian and the raspberry pi

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my son uses MU, and I like that the editor has training wheels 😄

heavy knot Jan 9, 2020, 6:10 PM

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Thanks, also find a whole serie on khad academy!

woven stag Jan 9, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Yep, seems great so far. I think you meant to ping me haha

heavy knot Jan 9, 2020, 8:19 PM

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What distros do you use?

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is Manjaro with GNOME a good choice?

frank compass Jan 9, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Arch + xfce or xubuntu

fair heron Jan 10, 2020, 2:08 AM

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PyCharm question: I have some tests that I run in a pipenv using the coverage module. I do this using a command in the "Terminal" tab of PyCharm, using a command like pipenv run coverage run manage.py test ....etc.. I'd like to create a PyCharm "Run/Debug Configuration" so that I can set some breakpoints and debug. I can't seem to figure out how to run this command as a "Run/Debug Configuration" in PyCharm. Any suggestions?

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JK, I was making it harder than it needed to be.

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Actually, still doesn't work. I click "Debug" and it just runs the test without stopping, ignoring all breakpoints.

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Aaaand just kidding once more, I just had to run manage.py directly rather than through coverage. I'll just slink away and be quiet, now... https://gph.is/13pwkMS

Giphy

tawny temple Jan 10, 2020, 4:26 AM

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@heavy knot When a git repository is cloned from a remote location (such as one of GitHub's webservers), the resulting cloned repository is a local copy of that repository. When changes are committed, the commit is only applied to the local repository until a push is performed. Once that is done, the changes are sent to the remote (e.g. the GitHub server).

heavy knot Jan 10, 2020, 4:27 AM

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ok.. I think I understand..

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clone from github to local-> make changes in local-> commit locally with commit message->push to github

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is that right? so.. what's merge and pull

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like, is a pull request only when you're committing to someone else's repo..

tawny temple Jan 10, 2020, 4:29 AM

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Merge well... merges changes from a different branch into another branch

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And a pull retrieves changes from a remote

heavy knot Jan 10, 2020, 4:30 AM

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if my local copy was ahead, I would push.. if I wanted to sync with the github copy regardless of if I was ahead, I would fetch and rebase.. is that right?

tawny temple Jan 10, 2020, 4:30 AM

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Yes

heavy knot Jan 10, 2020, 4:31 AM

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ok.. I just dont understand merge.. merge like the branches have minor changes and you try to resolve conflicts?

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also.. what's amend commit, is that only to change the commit message

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sorry to bother.. it's just that my understanding is fragmented

tawny temple Jan 10, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Merge can be for any kind of change, minor or major

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If there are conflicts git cannot resolve automatically, then you must resolve them manually

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Amending a commit just edits a previous commit. You can edit the commit message but you can also add more changed files to it

heavy knot Jan 10, 2020, 4:39 AM

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got it.. thank you.. this is very helpful

woven stag Jan 10, 2020, 10:04 PM

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any way to hide those lines of comments like in nested code?

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vscode btw

lost dust Jan 10, 2020, 10:05 PM

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try using doc strings

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"""
some comments
here
"""

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If that doesn't work then there should be options to enable that I guess

woven stag Jan 10, 2020, 10:07 PM

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Like this? I think it's not a comment anymore

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I found a keyboard shortcut to add the # to all lines because couldn't use it

lost dust Jan 10, 2020, 10:11 PM

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make it look exactly like this https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/463035462760792066/665315429014569021

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Note that I never used vscode

woven stag Jan 10, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Doesn't seem to work

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I tried to find in the internet but looks like there's no way to do it

blazing condor Jan 10, 2020, 11:07 PM

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yeah that should work

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here's an example in my code

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lost dust Jan 10, 2020, 11:08 PM

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can you minimize that block comment?

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collapse I guess is other word

lost rock Jan 10, 2020, 11:09 PM

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In a proper IDE (read: PyCharm) you can... </opinion>

blazing condor Jan 10, 2020, 11:09 PM

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lol you can only minimize the whole method/func/class

lost dust Jan 10, 2020, 11:10 PM

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eh then no bueno

lost rock Jan 10, 2020, 11:10 PM

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never been a fan of vscode, idk. it never seems to be able to do what I want either

finite fulcrum Jan 10, 2020, 11:10 PM

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no plugin or customization for the collapse points or how to call it?

blazing condor Jan 10, 2020, 11:11 PM

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i'm sure there is an extension for it, but i'm ok with the block comment showing

woven stag Jan 10, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Couldn't find a plugin either

lost dust Jan 10, 2020, 11:31 PM

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then you could ... use PyCharm isee

woven stag Jan 10, 2020, 11:31 PM

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It doesn't work on my pc for whatever reason

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lol

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I like vscode though

cunning crescent Jan 11, 2020, 12:50 AM

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Hey guys, I've been using VSCode for python lately and I have a question. Is there a way to turn off the fancy font where it says "import" it also does this for all control structure words, if, else, while, for etc

It's pretty annoying and I've been trying for a few hours now to figure out how to turn it off with no luck. My theme is material and I've searched through all of the material settings with no luck.

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violet belfry Jan 11, 2020, 12:54 AM

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Seems like it's controlled by the material theme, but not sure how to change it

blazing condor Jan 11, 2020, 12:54 AM

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yeah it'll depend on the theme you're using

cunning crescent Jan 11, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Yeah it is only there with certain themes. I might just have to change themes because I don't see a setting for it and it's really obnoxious lol. Not sure why it bothers me so much. It just looks weird.

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I might just have to deal with it though. This theme is so nice. That weird font is the only thing I don't like

blazing condor Jan 11, 2020, 12:57 AM

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well if you're looking for a new one, i really like and use https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=maximetinu.identical-sublime-monokai-csharp-theme-colorizer (yes ik it says c# but it works perfectly with python)

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it might not be of your liking though judging on your current theme

cunning crescent Jan 11, 2020, 12:59 AM

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Yeah that one does look pretty nice.

blazing condor Jan 11, 2020, 1:02 AM

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here it is with a bit of python code

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and normal imports lol

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cunning crescent Jan 11, 2020, 1:03 AM

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That does look pretty tasty. Only thing I don't really like is the yellow (?) ish look over the whole thing. But that can probably be changed.

blazing condor Jan 11, 2020, 1:04 AM

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yeah i noticed your theme had a more blueish tint, that why i said

it might not be of your liking though judging on your current theme

cunning crescent Jan 11, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Makes sense. I'll probably still give it a go and see if I can tweak it.

blazing condor Jan 11, 2020, 1:06 AM

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👍

frozen coral Jan 11, 2020, 5:34 AM

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In spyder I can still access vars after I run my python files

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because it goes straight into the same ipython shell that was used to execute the code

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Can I change my pycharm anaconda env to use ipython?

heavy knot Jan 11, 2020, 11:52 AM

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VSCode stopped showing any errors in .py files today. For ex

print(x)```
didn't show error that x is undefined

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anyone knows how to fix?

true vapor Jan 11, 2020, 12:20 PM

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@frozen coral yes, you can change your pycharm env to use ipython. Up in the top right to the left of the run button, there should be a dropdown with your file name. Click on that then edit configuration. From there in the "Execution" section of the GUI there should be a tick box of run with python console

frozen coral Jan 11, 2020, 7:30 PM

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@true vapor does it still work with external modules? or do these need to be reinstalled?

true vapor Jan 11, 2020, 7:34 PM

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should still work

frozen coral Jan 11, 2020, 7:38 PM

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yeah that's not working

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Maybe anaconda is messing with it

frozen coral Jan 12, 2020, 5:41 AM

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@true vapor found a way to make it work Run menu on top -> Edit Configuration - > Python file (on the left) -> Execution -> Run with python console

heavy knot Jan 12, 2020, 10:19 PM

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What linter do you use on VSCode?

vivid cargo Jan 13, 2020, 6:30 AM

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I use flake8

inland mesa Jan 13, 2020, 8:39 AM

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guys I wrote some quick guide for iTerm2 + (fish-shell + advance) for macOS for saving your time. (was not easy for me 😋 )

I used zsh + YADR + iTerm2 and now using fish-shell + iTerm2
fish-shell has pretty good plugin system. I guess it's kind of next generation of zsh. also autocomplete is pretty good.
enjoy!

https://polyglotm.gitbook.io/dev-serum/quick-reference/dev-env/item2-+-fish-shell-+-advance-for-macos

iTerm2 + (fish-shell + advance) for macOS

gaunt narwhal Jan 13, 2020, 5:09 PM

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In pycharm, is there a way to see variable values. e.g workspace.?

thorny shell Jan 13, 2020, 7:47 PM

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probably -- tell it to "debug" your program, then you can "step through" it (i.e., execute just a single line at a time), while it displays values of variables

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I don't know exactly how to do that, since I don't use pycharm; but it's a standard feature of an IDE

ionic gale Jan 13, 2020, 8:02 PM

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I feel as if this is the best place to ask: what is the best tool to use for calling to an API? Would requests be sufficient?

thorny shell Jan 13, 2020, 8:06 PM

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yes.

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if by "an API" you mean "a web service endpoint".

heavy knot Jan 13, 2020, 10:44 PM

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What’s your go-to text editor

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Kinda curious what everyone uses

blazing condor Jan 13, 2020, 10:45 PM

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vs code

heavy knot Jan 13, 2020, 10:46 PM

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What theme do you rock?

blazing condor Jan 13, 2020, 10:47 PM

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sublime monokai

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hbu?

thorny shell Jan 13, 2020, 11:16 PM

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@heavy knot emacs 🙂

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I fly my caveman flag high

heavy knot Jan 13, 2020, 11:17 PM

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I have the material dark I think @blazing condor

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And damn @thorny shell waive the flag high

thorny shell Jan 13, 2020, 11:18 PM

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well I can't fly it any higher than my arm; we haven't invented flagpoles yet

topaz aspen Jan 13, 2020, 11:21 PM

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🧐

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blazing condor Jan 13, 2020, 11:21 PM

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ahh emacs

topaz aspen Jan 13, 2020, 11:23 PM

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i used spacemacs, it was kinda nice, but just vsc now

thorny shell Jan 13, 2020, 11:25 PM

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flyspell has become useless, although it's not emacs' fault; it's the "aspell" program

heavy knot Jan 14, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Not sure if this is the best channel to post to but

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Does anyone have good resources for practice problems

blazing condor Jan 14, 2020, 1:00 AM

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code wars, project euler, hacker rank, leetcode

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there are more i can't remember atm

heavy knot Jan 14, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Awesome that’s exactly what i needed thanks @blazing condor

blazing condor Jan 14, 2020, 1:03 AM

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np👍

ivory wagon Jan 14, 2020, 2:52 PM

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What's the best software uninstaller in your opinion?

cinder storm Jan 14, 2020, 7:40 PM

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windows or linux? @ivory wagon

dusty hill Jan 15, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Hey y'all anyone around tonight?

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I am looking for some info on the proper project workflow relative to venv, git, etc.. Is anyone willing to discuss this or do I need to go to reddit/.

lost dust Jan 15, 2020, 12:09 AM

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project workflow peterthink
all of that is done by PyCharm for me

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Even pycharm can only do so much. You still need to manually set up stuff like pipenv, black, pre-commit hooks

dusty hill Jan 15, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Awesome! Unfortunately, that will not be helpful for me 😦

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:10 AM

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.gitignores, pycharm doesn't do those fantastically

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I'd offer advice, but I'm very new to this stuff myself

lost dust Jan 15, 2020, 12:10 AM

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works for me

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what are pre-commit hooks pepe_sweaty

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:11 AM

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run scripts on your code before its commited. Black and Flake8 are two common uses of it

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I only recently tried to use them myself

lost dust Jan 15, 2020, 12:11 AM

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ah ye never used those. Since PyCharm warns me about PEP and such out of the box

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Yeah, Pycharm + ctrl+alt+l is pretty great

dusty hill Jan 15, 2020, 12:12 AM

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that's why I don't like IDE's

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:12 AM

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why?

dusty hill Jan 15, 2020, 12:12 AM

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okay, so if I create a venv do I put my python source files inside the env directory?

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Because IDE's lead to lots of people that don't have any idea what is going on under the hood. Then you get tied into them. Very irritating interviewing people that live and die in IDEs too 🙂

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:15 AM

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I'm not sure why its an issue that people live and die in IDEs

lost dust Jan 15, 2020, 12:15 AM

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it saves me a lot of time and errors. If I had to do all of that in a separate prcoess and in terminals then I would quit

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:15 AM

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they're less powerful in Python, but trying to write Java without relying on an IDE would be miserable

dusty hill Jan 15, 2020, 12:16 AM

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sure, that's the way. You have convinced me.

blazing condor Jan 15, 2020, 12:16 AM

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pycharm is a little too bloated for me tbh

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:17 AM

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I don't see how the bloat is an issue, you can use as many or as few features as you like

lost dust Jan 15, 2020, 12:17 AM

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long startups

dusty hill Jan 15, 2020, 12:18 AM

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okay, I changed my mind, $250 a year for a closed source proprietary package... No thanks.

blazing condor Jan 15, 2020, 12:18 AM

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you can use the community version

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:18 AM

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what?

lost dust Jan 15, 2020, 12:18 AM

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why would I pay for IDE sataniascared

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:18 AM

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yeah, the community version is open source and does tonnes of useful stuff still

dusty hill Jan 15, 2020, 12:18 AM

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I am just working from the command line. So no one knows the workflow without an IDE?

blazing condor Jan 15, 2020, 12:19 AM

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i wouldn't utilize all the features in pycharm, so it's pointless for me to have it anyway

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:19 AM

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There are different options for the workflow

blazing condor Jan 15, 2020, 12:19 AM

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vs code for me

lost dust Jan 15, 2020, 12:19 AM

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code -> commit -> profit?

blazing condor Jan 15, 2020, 12:19 AM

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if only it was that easy

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:19 AM

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i wouldn't utilize all the features in pycharm, so it's pointless for me to have it anyway

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no one uses all the features

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but its still useful

blazing condor Jan 15, 2020, 12:20 AM

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well most at least

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:20 AM

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for just using the relevant features to you

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have you ever tried using it?

blazing condor Jan 15, 2020, 12:20 AM

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yeah i had it installed for a few days

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the experience was fine, but it's much heavier then vs code

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Just stuff like refactoring across multiple files, and highlighting files visually to show git status makes it worth it for me

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and I don't really see the heaviness as an issue

dusty hill Jan 15, 2020, 12:21 AM

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venv inside or outside the git repo?

lost dust Jan 15, 2020, 12:21 AM

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not on repo

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:21 AM

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inside the git repo under a .gitignore

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inside the repo folder

lost dust Jan 15, 2020, 12:21 AM

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nani

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you don't commit that

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:22 AM

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yeah, you don't commit it, but its in the same directory

dusty hill Jan 15, 2020, 12:22 AM

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source code, inside or outside the venv folder

lost dust Jan 15, 2020, 12:22 AM

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ye

blazing condor Jan 15, 2020, 12:22 AM

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things would be catastrophic without .gitignore for me

lost dust Jan 15, 2020, 12:22 AM

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outside

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:23 AM

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I have made the mistake of commiting api keys, and learned the power of .gitignore the hard way

dusty hill Jan 15, 2020, 12:23 AM

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so the venv doesn't get stored in the git repo

finite fulcrum Jan 15, 2020, 12:23 AM

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Top level for for the project, source code and venv dirs under that

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:23 AM

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no, you have a requirements.txt with your deps

dusty hill Jan 15, 2020, 12:24 AM

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ahhh, that's the missing piece

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I will go find out about that then.

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:24 AM

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pip freeze > requirements.txt

blazing condor Jan 15, 2020, 12:24 AM

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or pip file if you fancy that

dusty hill Jan 15, 2020, 12:24 AM

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So there are steps one must take to clone my repo and reproduce my env and run the project

lost dust Jan 15, 2020, 12:24 AM

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yes

blazing condor Jan 15, 2020, 12:24 AM

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yup

lost dust Jan 15, 2020, 12:25 AM

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also you're in charge of a good readme guiding ppl to do that

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even if it's just isntalling from requirements.txt

blazing condor Jan 15, 2020, 12:25 AM

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which uses markdown if you use an md file

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README.md

dusty hill Jan 15, 2020, 12:26 AM

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so they still have to use venv and all that jazz?

lost dust Jan 15, 2020, 12:26 AM

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which reminds me that we got honorary mention last jam because of our readme 😊

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so make note of that for this code jam

blazing condor Jan 15, 2020, 12:26 AM

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i'll make a readthedocs.io

finite fulcrum Jan 15, 2020, 12:28 AM

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You don't force the venv, you just tell the user what's needed in packages and then it's their concern how and in what it's ran.
There are things like pipenv that create more of a copy of your venv but you also have to start with that

dusty hill Jan 15, 2020, 12:32 AM

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okay, this has always been the least interesting and most frustrating part of any project. I literally hate it. I hated writing windows help files, and each different installer and all that crap. Just found it to be tedius, and the fact that there was no clear standard, was infuriating. I was expecting Python to be standardized with a PEP or something and everything followed that. Time to go digging through 405 and 486 some more

finite fulcrum Jan 15, 2020, 12:33 AM

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requirements.txt are the most basic and easiest for to get what's needed

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:33 AM

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The lack of standardization in this area is something I also find frustrating

lost dust Jan 15, 2020, 12:33 AM

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ye you got it worng or something

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you just make requirements.txt and that's it

dusty hill Jan 15, 2020, 12:33 AM

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thanks I will look into that

heavy knot Jan 15, 2020, 12:52 AM

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so ?

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@true vapor which one i choose

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https://gyazo.com/21e5eaee29fae8299b979da3ac2e86e3

Gyazo

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pip or setuptools ?

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 12:54 AM

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dont. thats it setup

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just hit ok

heavy knot Jan 15, 2020, 1:05 AM

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already pressed ok

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but it doesn't work @true vapor

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Then you need to click add configuration

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back where your original screenshot was

jolly current Jan 15, 2020, 1:19 PM

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Hello I'm having a weird issue with Git. I'm updating a repository automatically and all the process goes fine, except that Git ignores some newly created files. The files aren't gitignore(d) I can guarantee that, git log doesn't show them being committed to the repository, but the files are there. git ls-files also doesn't show them listed.
I also renamed a file and git considered it as "deleted" instead of modified (or whatever it uses for renamed files.)
I'm at loss here unsure what's causing it. I forked the same repo separately, copied one file to test and git wouldn't still figure it out (despite it not being in the repository.)

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Force adding the file works fine

true vapor Jan 15, 2020, 1:40 PM

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You need to do git add for the new files

jolly current Jan 15, 2020, 1:42 PM

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I found the issue it was a backslash...

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So depressing to spend an hour for a damn backslash...

thorny shell Jan 16, 2020, 3:52 AM

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also, when you rename a file, git may "see" that as a deletion of the old file followed by the addition of the new file.

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It generally compares files in those cases, to see if they're similar; and if so, indicates that you renamed it; but that's only a best-effort thing

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if you haven't also edited it, though, it should detect the rename easily

distant notch Jan 17, 2020, 4:23 AM

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conda question. have my env set up on windows and would like to deploy the same to an ubuntu server. I see mixed results when I search, however this must be pretty common so I'm wondering what most people end up doing

tawny temple Jan 17, 2020, 4:45 AM

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You mean install the same packages on Ubuntu when you deploy?

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If so, you can use requirements.txt, poetry, or pipenv

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Conda isn't really needed.

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Unless you have some packages that are only on conda

distant notch Jan 17, 2020, 5:33 AM

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hmm probably no conda only packages. when I do something like conda list -e > requirements.txt I get:
"
...
vs2015_runtime=14.16.27012=hf0eaf9b_1
werkzeug=0.16.0=py_0
wheel=0.33.6=py37_0
win_inet_pton=1.1.0=py37_0
wincertstore=0.2=py37_0
zlib=1.2.11=h62dcd97_3"

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is there a way to do that so it's compatible with ubuntu

rough brook Jan 17, 2020, 8:51 AM

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I'm looking for a vscode extension which justifies/aligns pure text (think long comments) anyone knows of one? I haven't found one yet 😦

ivory wagon Jan 17, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Why does VS Code not support real time linting?

vivid cargo Jan 17, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Yes it does

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I forgot where to find it or how is it exactly called, but you can choose realtime, onsave or never

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https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/python/linting

Linting Python in Visual Studio Code

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When enabling lintOnSave, you might also want to enable the generic files.autoSave option (see Save / Auto Save). The combination provides frequent linting feedback in your code as you type.

ivory wagon Jan 17, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Yeah but that's just lint on save. It's not real time

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And I don't know if I want to save my document 3 times a second

tawny temple Jan 17, 2020, 4:04 PM

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You're not the first to ask

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There's an open issue somewhere

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It's quite a popular request

minor herald Jan 17, 2020, 4:05 PM

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It is, and so I just turn on autosave so linter will sort of "brb in 3s" after I finish editing codes

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iirc linter checking on every single change like text editing caused too much stress to the client

ivory wagon Jan 17, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Then why do all other editors have it?

true vapor Jan 17, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Most other editors aren't using Electron. That probably adds some limitations

ivory barn Jan 18, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Guys, is there a python tool/library or an outside source that can get GPS coordinates up until the eight number. Most tools get them only to the six or seventh number. Here is an example: (latitude) -122.2082454, (longtitude) 37.4780123

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?*

twin hull Jan 18, 2020, 12:29 PM

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well, first are you sure your captor is precise enough?

smoky grail Jan 18, 2020, 1:39 PM

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a degree of latitude is let's say ~100km, eighth digit would be 1mm, a great DGPS system might do 1cm from a quick wiki search, and that requires a bunch of ground stations

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so for a typical phone GPS the 5th to 7th digits are probably noise

violet belfry Jan 18, 2020, 3:53 PM

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https://xkcd.com/2170/

xkcd: Coordinate Precision

thorny shell Jan 18, 2020, 5:11 PM

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❤️ xkcd

feral swallow Jan 19, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/Users/livioli/Desktop/alien_invasion/alien_invasion.py", line 3, in <module>
import pygame
ImportError: No module named pygame
[Finished in 0.084s]

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I just started using atom

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and don't know how to set up the right python path

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I don't know where I have pygame installed

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probably 3.7

violet hatch Jan 21, 2020, 9:46 AM

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for some reason, pip is not installing to my active conda env, but to the system Python installation.
anyone has any idea why? which pip shows the right pip

lost rock Jan 21, 2020, 10:35 AM

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@violet hatch check type -a pip - maybe it's overridden by an alias or shell function. which only displays binaries.

violet hatch Jan 21, 2020, 10:36 AM

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yup, type displays the right pip too

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I should have specified that

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when I install stuff, it goes to site-packages for system Python (I know this from pip show and the fact that I can't import it)

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I feel like something is broken but I'm not sure what

stable notch Jan 21, 2020, 11:37 AM

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https://www.anaconda.com/using-pip-in-a-conda-environment/

did you jump between conda & pip installs?

Anaconda

Jonathan Helmus

Using Pip in a Conda Environment - Anaconda

Unfortunately, issues can arise when conda and pip are used together to create an environment, especially when the tools are used back-to-back multiple times, establishing a state that can be hard to reproduce. Most of…

dreamy onyx Jan 21, 2020, 3:14 PM

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guys, i use pycharm

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and i imported there an mp

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so on pycharm i saw the typical audio file icon

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but i openned it as text and now instead of the typical audio icon

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is a sheet of paper

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how can i display again the audio icon?

frank compass Jan 21, 2020, 3:32 PM

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settings > editor > file typeqs

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I guess you'll need to remove *.mp from whichever text file you associated it to

dreamy onyx Jan 21, 2020, 3:33 PM

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kk ty

mental mason Jan 21, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Sry this is github related question, can u remove repo from backup list?

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Ik this is weird but can u do it?

violet belfry Jan 22, 2020, 12:04 AM

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I don't know what that means

tired aspen Jan 22, 2020, 12:25 AM

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what is a backup list for github

mental mason Jan 22, 2020, 1:34 AM

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Uh

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If u go to setting > repository u get a list of active repo and deleted repo

violet belfry Jan 22, 2020, 2:14 AM

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Settings of what?

tired aspen Jan 22, 2020, 2:23 AM

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in github webpage; profile > settings

random breach Jan 22, 2020, 2:57 AM

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seems they get removed automatically after some time

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i can only see one deleted repository from a week ago

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but im sure ive deleted other repositories in the past

kind chasm Jan 23, 2020, 8:06 AM

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git remote rm %remote_name% replace %remote_name% with the name of the remote repo you want to delete

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So, to remove origin, you type git remote rm origin

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On a different topic, does anyone know a hotkey in VS Code that allows me to COMPILE the current python file for syntax checking?

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nvm just remembered about build tasks :D. Sorry :p.

warm pollen Jan 23, 2020, 8:18 AM

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Guys, what do you think about replacing git merge by rebase for your projects? I’m kinda tempted to do it, since merge commits really cluster the history, and most of the time, GitHub merge commits are pretty., random, I guess, like merge 'resources' into 'resources' or inside master merge 'master' from <current repo URL>. But on the other side, it makes reverting merges easier, even if you can still reset the branch to the latest commit before the merge, but it is pretty bad if someone already pulled the repo, and it allows to still track when you merged topical branches, which can be handy. So, what do you guys think?

frank compass Jan 23, 2020, 9:59 AM

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You can squish commits from the merge into 1 when merging
merge 'resources' into 'resources' doesn't this only happen when you mess up ? Like commiting locally when you're not up to date with the remote

violet belfry Jan 23, 2020, 10:36 AM

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Rebasing is a destructive operation

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It’s a tool, not a complete replacement for merge

ivory flax Jan 23, 2020, 12:56 PM

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I have a problem with isort: I have it installed in atom and it pre-commit. They both see .isort file, I checked.
They disagree about one place:

import uvloop
import sentry_sdk``` atom isort wants this
```python
import uvloop

import sentry_sdk``` and pre-commit isort wants this.
I tired checking if there is an option for that in config, but I didn't find it here <https://github.com/timothycrosley/isort/wiki/isort-Settings>

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they both use 4.3.21 version of isort

ivory flax Jan 23, 2020, 1:20 PM

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after removing known_third_parties from config and using application_directories instead they both agreed on python import uvloop import sentry_sdk

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both uvloop and sentry_sdk were in list though

kind chasm Jan 23, 2020, 9:06 PM

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did anyone get linting in VS Code to work while using a venv?

livid schooner Jan 23, 2020, 9:58 PM

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me and some friends are collaborating on a discord bot, and we're using github for version control. when we want to add new features to master, should we use pull requests or just merge the experimental branch with master?

violet belfry Jan 23, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Up to you

livid schooner Jan 23, 2020, 11:30 PM

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But how am I supposed to make the decision

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What factors play in

violet belfry Jan 23, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Whether or not you want to look at it on GitHub and have a big green merge button. Reviewers have to pull the branch and check for issues themselves either way.

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Or if you have CI set up