it's not super compatible with IDEs
#tools-and-devops
sand thistle
like
once you make an environment
you have to manually place the path into the IDE
but that's my biggest complaint..
tawdry needle
For what it's worth that's true with any environment management tool
sand thistle
and it might be because im doing something wrong
ok cool so i dont feel bad
i thought i broke my computer
tawdry needle
Unless it specifically has integration with the environment manager
sand thistle
but you'd think someone would have solved this issue
feels like we're 99% of the way there
tawdry needle
It's a matter of convention versus configuration
sand thistle
oh god
tawdry needle
There are so many different ways to configure this stuff you can't safely make assumptions about it
sand thistle
I'm reading the design of everyday things
and it spoke about exactly that: convention vs configuration
how you can make things more efficient
but that means updating legacy
and that's a big problem
especially if it's a business decision
anyway im rambling a bit..
do you want to help advise me on this ocr project im working on
finite fulcrum
any way to add pycharm's actions to the windows context menu after installing it?
delicate gorge
so I recently started using the termguicolors option in my vimrc to ...well get the colors I want, interestingly enough, when I do a :q now vim paints paints everythig in my terminal (Xterm) which is not filled with characters yet white, however if I do a :wq this does not happen and everythign just stays normal, any ideas?
Side not, this doesnt seem to happen to me in alacritty so I guess its xterm + termguicolors
hidden lily
Woo automatic dark mode with JetBrains is liiiiit (or unlit)
prisma nexus
what do you guys use to sketch out website design before you start coding?
kind chasm
Does anyone else have the issue that vscode is ignoring the give port in the ssh_config?
ssh: connect to host ras port 22: Connection refused
HostName pi
Port 55555
User XXXX```
fair heron
@prisma nexus definitely curious on that myself.
prisma nexus
someone else recommended invision which i haven't looked into too much yet but looks super promising @fair heron
kind chasm
@prisma nexus A piece of paper
fair heron
Cool, I'll check it out. I dont have a lot of front end interest but do want to be at least minimally competent.
kind chasm
The vscode issue makes me angry. Really. Custom SSH ports are so common, why would someone program something like this? The sad thing is, it actually worked fine this way while it was on Insiders. Ugh, Microsoft. Seriously.
So many good things they do lately, but they manage to fuck up the most basic things
heavy knot
why my vsc doesnt want to turn on
tawdry needle
@kind chasm dont worry this is a pattern dating back 25+ years
kind chasm
It was actually my fault. An umlaut in the identifier name caused it. Just funny that it tried to connect on port 22 instead of telling me.
sand pivot
If I have some "modified" files in my "Changed not staged for commit" history that I don't want to commit at a later point, how can I remove (I don't actually want to delete them, I just don't want them being tracked)
or rather I don't care about them being tracked as I don't plan to commit the changes at the moment
lost rock
you'd add these files to your .gitignore file, so that git will, well, ignore them.
sand pivot
Hmm, I was wondering if there was some equivalent of a git rm command
lost rock
then they won't be listed as changed any more and won't be available for staging or committing
sand pivot
because gitignore (as I understand it) will mean that if I wanted the files to be commited at a later point, I would need to go to gitignore and remove any mention of them
lost rock
that's right
sand pivot
I was hoping for a hey git, i know you think these files were modified, but I don't care about them right now, so stop telling me about them each time I do git status command
lost rock
hmm, so like a temporary ignore.
sand pivot
would that just be for one push to remote?
lost rock
the gitignore file applies as long as it exists. I am not aware of a temporary way to ignore a change until the next commit or anything like that.
You could stash changes, but that way they also get removed from your working copy.
sand pivot
@lost rock but that way they also get removed from your working copy. does that mean they just get stashed with all present changes left in tact or are they reverted back to their original state (as they were when I first cloned the repo)
lost rock
DESCRIPTION
Use git stash when you want to record the current state of the working directory and the index, but want to go back to a
clean working directory. The command saves your local modifications away and reverts the working directory to match the
HEAD commit.
from man git-stash
so it just removes the current, not yet committed modifications
sand pivot
Pardon my naiveté, but when you talk about removing the current, not yet committed mod's, remove just means (don't consider them for possible commit right now) it doenst mean, delete these files
lost rock
reverting to the state of the last commit (HEAD). If a file didn't exist before and was just created, stashing it would remove the file from your working directory, IIRC.
(or not-yet-tracked files are ignored, I'm not sure)
sand pivot
Thanks @lost rock
west sparrow
hey!
I'm trying to install numpy (macos 10.15, python 3.8) and command
pip3 install numpy
thrown an error (error text here - pastebin.com/V2dg8fKA)
tldr error looks like this
RuntimeError: Broken toolchain: cannot link a simple C program
there is a stackoverflow topic with such problem but solution doesn't works
west sparrow
web installer
civic hound
have you opened xcode and accepted their tool licence agreement thing?
if you just updated macOS then you need to agree to their terms of service
west sparrow
no, in fact I didn't have xcode on my laptop yet. I read that it might help and now I'm downloading it
civic hound
xcode tools are preinstalled
sudo xcodebuild -license accept
think you can run this thing
west sparrow
oh
civic hound
sudo xcodebuild -license or maybe just this part so you can read the license and agree to it 😄
west sparrow
xcode-select: error: tool 'xcodebuild' requires Xcode, but active developer directory '/Library/Developer/CommandLineTools' is a command line tools instance
civic hound
ermm... strange..
well.. maybe downloading and installing xcode will sort itself out
i have not upgraded to 10.15 due to all the problems it has caused
west sparrow
I just wanted to test ipad as second display so I did 😄
civic hound
you should be able to only install the tools
if you have not started the install yet let me know and ill try to find the command
# Install Command Line Tools
xcode-select --install
# Enable command line tools
sudo xcode-select --switch /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools
found this online.. it looks correct
west sparrow
wow
It's heavy
civic hound
xcode is the entire MAC dev environment. so it is quite large
thats why they offer the hidden way to only download the xcode tools for the terminal
west sparrow
thank you for such a patient explanation
so Xcode itself isn't needed, only command line tools, right?
it works!
thank you so much!
civic hound
no problem 😄 we mac users need to stick together 😄
finite fulcrum
@copper compass you mentioned nuitka having a onefile option, but I'm having trouble finding anything, could you point me to the right direction?
Trying to replicate my pyinstaller setup (self extracting exe, some DLLs upx'd and included datafiles) to compare them if the size difference would be outweighed by other better things
copper compass
I'll take a look later, currently in the middle of something
But I recall it being right there on the usage page
copper compass
@finite fulcrum so yeah, as I said, right there in the user manual - python -m nuitka --standalone
with --experimental=use_pefile if you're on windows
perhaps also --experimental=use_pefile_recurse
finite fulcrum
the standalone only makes it a folder that's independent of the outside environment
eternal flicker
I do, although I'm not a powerhouse
dusty hill
oops, never got notified there was a new message
I am wondering about different people's workflow, I just installed slime, and it seriously rocks. 🙂
pure pulsar
i do use vim for all my dev, yes, it's completly fine for me for python/backend things, and kivy development, but for web front/js, my setup is less great
vale dagger
Used to use vim but I've switched to pycharm with vim keybindings
lyric granite
Does vim do the aforementioned thing of locking an active source file?
Like, you can't have a.py open in two different windows without some sort of stopgap
dusty hill
locking how?
lyric granite
I don't know how to describe the solution, so I'll describe the problem
dusty hill
it can recognize if the file was modified outside of itself and allows you to reload or ignore that
lyric granite
On my laptop, I was editing file a. I stopped to do something else for a while, not on my laptop. when I came back, I forgot that I had file a open already, and opened it in order to show someone the program. I then edited in the outdated version, and had things break
this is close to that yeah, but what if I'm using vim both times I open the file?
is it that it sees source modifications outside of this instance of vim?
or just 'these modifications weren't made by any vim instance'
dusty hill
if you use vim and say, lose your window behind something and try to open another you will be warned
lyric granite
ok that's good
I assume f5 is also the rerun/reload command?
That's standard I'd guess among everything, right?
dusty hill
f5 is f5, you can bind it to anything you like.
lyric granite
is it bound by default or do you have to bind everything manually
dusty hill
currently if I have a Python file open I have f5 set to write the file to disk, then run the file and show the output in a terminal window. But I was playing with f6 being merely to send the selected text to python and run it... But now I installed slime plugin, and that lets me select text and ctrl-c ctrl-c and it will send it to a running REPL in a terminal window within vim
eternal flicker
Vim creates a swapfile for each file you have open in the editor, then when you try to open a file it checks for the presence of the swapfile and will give you a big warning
dusty hill
vim come "out of the box" with nothing that comes to mind bound to a function key, most of the commands are on the keyboard keys
vim is a modal editor, so you have to say you are inputting text or not, when you aren't all your regular keys have important jobs
eternal flicker
@lyric granite to me it looks like you might be understanding something a little differently, so I thought id clear it up
Vim is a text editor and does not provide anything code editing specific out of the box
lyric granite
What's REPL? I've heard the name before but not familiar
So you have to be pressing a certain key to type regular text, or it's a toggle key?
dusty hill
well that's not exactly true
lyric granite
@eternal flicker You're saying Vim's akin to Notepad++, and @dusty hill you're saying it's not quite?
dusty hill
it provides code completion and syntax highlighting right out of the box, and if you use a makefile it provides for building 🙂
yes, if you hit i, o, a, s then you will go into the mode where your keys are letters and input text
lyric granite
Are you saying any of those keys or all of those keys in that order
dusty hill
i = insert before, a = append after, o = open a new line , s = overwrite the first letter and then insert
lyric granite
ah ok
dusty hill
so for example I open an empty file
Then I hit the 'i' key
I can now type to my hearts content until I hit <esc> or <ctrl-c>
lyric granite
that honestly seems like a major shift from standard text editors, having every key be some sort of single-key shortcut
Drastically different design philosophy
How long did it take you to get used to this type of editor?
dusty hill
text are objects and lots of keys more in that way. So 'w' moves forward by a word, W does the same thing but includes the space. b and B do the samething backwards, e goes to the end of a word.
It is soemthing to get used to, but for example I can type dG and it will delete everything from where I am to the end of the buffer. or 3dw and it will delete the next 3 words
it comes with a tutorial vimtutor and you can work through it in less than an hour and be very productive
lyric granite
what's the structure of vimtutor?
dusty hill
it is a page loaded in vim that tells you "use such and such key to move to this place", now do this...
simple
it has a full language for programming it, and you can get versions that have others compiled into it as well so you can actually write plugins for it in python or lua if you don't like vimscript
lyric granite
for programming vim? what's the language like?
lyric granite
c-ish as in it has curly braces or c ish as in you can really get into the metal and configure variables and memory requirements
dusty hill
if you are even on any Linux, BSD, Unix, or even Macs should all have some version of Vim on it by default
lyric granite
I'm on windows, so sadly I seem to be missing out on this tool being a default :<
dusty hill
function! s:NextSection(type, backwards)
if a:backwards
let dir = '?'
else
let dir = '/'
endif
execute 'silent normal! ' . dir . 'foo' . "\r"
endfunction
something like that
no matter there is a windows version
lyric granite
does indentation matter as it does in python?
dusty hill
as much or as little as you like
lyric granite
oh, said extended, meant supported
dusty hill
I think Bram wrote the first one on the Amiga actually. But it was a foward of an editor called Vi which was the visual mode of Ex ... we are getting pretty old at this point
it is hugely supported
lyric granite
also seems like it's been around a while
dusty hill
vimcasts abound on youtube, tutorials, plugins, pretty much anything you would ever want to do you can do in Vim
lyric granite
does it support regex? I'd assume so, right?
dusty hill
it has phenominal regex, and even grep
lyric granite
oh nice
dusty hill
to search in vim you hit /
limpid mulch
And a very steep learning curve. =]
lyric granite
I've seen limited grep but a devent amount of regex
dusty hill
then type your search and it will find it along the way until you hit enter, and N will find previous and n will find next. 🙂
lyric granite
Are you talking about regex, grep, or vim, @limpid mulch ?
limpid mulch
All of them, but mostly vim. It's hard to learn, hard to master. But once you get into it - it's a magnificent tool.
lyric granite
@dusty hill mentioned the tutor-type application/page for vim. Have you used it, @limpid mulch ?
dusty hill
Tell you what:
If you are in normal mode where you can't type letters into your document
ZZ will save and exit
ZQ will just quit
If you are typing letters then hit <ESC> to get to normal mode and use what I just said.
You now understand the most confusing part of the editor.
Otherwise hit i to start typing, and <esc> when you are done typing.
I challenge you to go d/l a copy and play with the vimtutor
All the cool kids use it, and chics really dig it. It will cure your acne, and put hair on your chest... or take it off, whichever you prefer. 🙂
lyric granite
It slices! It dices! It does anything you want! as long as you meant slicing strings
dusty hill
you can fool around with a js version online here:
http://coolwanglu.github.io/vim.js/emterpreter/vim.html
limpid mulch
@lyric granite yes, although it was quite some time ago. Most of the experience and understanding comes from using vim on a daily basis. Which takes quite a bit of effort at the start.
lyric granite
Ok so I'll install vimware, and there's an application of the editor that I want to try:
I want to take an infile.py, strip all comments, and make an outfile.py
Could you, once I install Vim, help me out with this?
It's a regex thing that can be done, but an automated way to do it would be amazing
I think it's funny that the top suggested search for Vim is "how do I start typing in vim"
limpid mulch
Yeah, it pretty much outlines the complexity. =]
lyric granite
I'm looking at the downloads page and yeah, I see there's the Amiga version. Why do they have that online? Is there some really well defined bridge from Internet to Amiga that people who still use Amigas know by default?
dusty hill
not sure, but there is a dos and OS/2 and maybe even an Arari version too
limpid mulch
I want to take an infile.py, strip all comments, and make an outfile.py Could you, once I install Vim, help me out with this?
There is a designated tool for what you are trying to achieve called sed. I'm not sure vim is a good choice for automating editing. Vim is an interactive editor by design afaik.
Don't get me wrong, It might be possible to automate things with vim, it's just not the most convenient way to do so.
lyric granite
Is there a version for the TI-8X calcs? It wouldn't surprise me if there was if there's any system that VIM has been ported to that uses a z-80
dusty hill
all python comments? like the ones that start with #
limpid mulch
It is.
lyric granite
can you pass multiple filenames into it at once, or even a directory in and out?
dusty hill
the only problem I see is if you have any strings that contain # in them might give you some grief
you are doign this in the editor or from the command line or in python?
limpid mulch
@lyric granite that would be your shell responsibility to process multiple files. Are you on linux?
lyric granite
"Take all files in indirectory and, if there's not a file with the same name in outdirectory, then strip comments in the file and put a copy in outdirectory"
No, sadly am on windows. I've been debating adding a dual boot for linux though
limpid mulch
Oh.
lyric granite
I've had limited use of linux, mostly using a command line
dusty hill
do you have grep?
lyric granite
I've used an extremely outdated version of redhat before I think
nope, not unless I've installed it along with some other tool that I have
I've installed Visual Studio before because I didn't know where to really start making programs on the PC when I started out, so it might've come with that?
limpid mulch
Windows haven't got that set of nice CLI tools, sadly.
lyric granite
They probably want you to subscribe to VS
dusty hill
so are you tryign to do thsi with windows cmd line tools? or are you wanting to write a python program to do it, or something else?
lyric granite
Anything that would be able to do this functionality. I'd assume this is something that's been done multiple times before, so I'd probably want to avoid re-inventing the wheel in python
dusty hill
you can always install WSL and you would have Linux in your windows. Or Cygwin is amazing
limpid mulch
If you want to automate things such as the one above - you might have to either install sed, grep etc binaries for windows specifically or use some kind of self-written program/script to do that for you.
lyric granite
Isn't there now some sort of linux support in windows that doesn't require a dual boot?
dusty hill
WSL
limpid mulch
If I was to do it on windows - I'd just install python and wrote a python program. That would be the most straightforward way without going too far.
dusty hill
do you ahve W10?
lyric granite
Yeah
lyric granite
It's w10 newest service pack/release/update or whatever MS calls them
How do you make a python program that can read text from another python script file?
limpid mulch
Isn't there now some sort of linux support in windows that doesn't require a dual boot?
There might. I've never used it tho, so got nothing to advice.
lyric granite
Would this be relevant to the help channels?
limpid mulch
How do you make a python program that can read text from another python script file?
Python script is just a text file, you can read it like any other text file.
lyric granite
Yeah, I'd assume most people here aren't fans of windows. Don't blame ya for it either, honestly
I don't know how to do that even
I don't know how to do something like
get text from file as filename
That's for libraries I know
limpid mulch
It's not about being fan or not. It's about picking the right tool for the job. Windows historically is a customer-facing system that tries to be as intuitive as possible, which implies some restrictions. So it's not suited well for some of the more advanced stuff.
lyric granite
so far I've used the interactive shell, input, print, and turtle for I/O in python progs
Well, recently there's problems like needing to edit the registry to disable the Cortana assistant
That's the only way, they removed a checkbox for it
limpid mulch
If you want to just get the job done - google for the python script that strips the commends from files.
dusty hill
but if you want to use Unix/Linux tools on windows, you can. WSL doesn't cost anything, just follow the instructions. Cygwin https://cygwin.com/ puts a nice subsystem with the slashes in the correct direction 🙂 and all the tools you could hope for on a Linux box right there in windows.
lyric granite
Oh, registry reminds me of something:
I'm using an old MiniDin6 keyboard, so the ALT key shows up as the WIN key, at least in windows. I've used a registry editing tool to change this in Windows called SharpKeys, but I don't think that would work in linux. Is there a way to do something like that in linux, editing the definitions of hex codes for keys?
limpid mulch
You can make your own keymap if you so desire.
In linux everything is possible. Just takes time and knowledge to achieve.
lyric granite
And with the python thing, I'd be down for tinkering with parsing files honestly, I think that's something that I could easily find applications for in day-to-day, and I don't want to have to sit and google for every problem that that could be applied to
Saving things from programs, etc
Parsing a long string of text that I want to have in a file
creating a text file that has the contents of a list I created in some program
Ah wait, I've got to go soon though. Gotta get some rest, just realised what time it was
limpid mulch
Python is a good tool for automating just about anything.
dusty hill
okay, let me know how your explorations with Vim go. Good luck on your programmign project. but now is time for sleep
lyric granite
Really appreciate the help and recommendations, will try these and explore Vim. Seems like an interesting venture
limpid mulch
Sure, good night. =] If there are any questions - feel free to ask them.
lyric granite
Will do :>
limpid mulch
Good luck!
lyric granite
I assume the parsing files is something that's a help channel thing for another day, right?
dusty hill
well one would garner a level of respect by starting the program attempt and simply asking how to do some piece you haven't been able to figure out.
limpid mulch
As long as it's parsing with python - yes, sure.
lyric granite
of course, I'd read docs and such, and see what I can get beforehand before I come with any questions
dusty hill
even if that is as simple as a "Hello, world" program. And now you want to open a file and look at each line. See what I mean?
lyric granite
Yeah, makes sense
dusty hill
open to a book suggestion?
lyric granite
Oh sure?
lyric granite
I have a textbook for python, but yeah, it starts from the very basics
dusty hill
If you get to chapter 4 you will know more than many of your friends and ready to get to work! If you finish it, you will be answering more questions than you ask.
Dive is the best text book for Python I have ever seen
lyric granite
By comparison, chapter 4 in the book I have is introductions to repeat structures
Let's build a for loop out of a while loop, and not mention that for loops exist juuust yet!
Alright, thanks for the suggestion. Goodnight!
dusty hill
let me know what you think, it's not my book, and I don't get anything from people using it I just think it is very straight forward and better than most texts I have seen
lyric granite
I mean, you said yourself it's free. I'll for sure take a look, and see if it helps with understanding comprehensions as well
Man, i keep saying goodnight but I keep thinking up questions
What audience is the book written towards? This'll be the last thing I let myself get into tonight
mint tendon
Hey I've been learning python for years (although you wouldn't believe it) and I just got the communtiy version of pycharm unfortanly I have no idea how to use it? So can someone point me to a video explaining, I've been using shell for like 5 years I'm brand new to this stuff thanks -Scot
mint tendon
Oh and what's kivy and how do I go about using it Thnx -scot
heavy knot
Is there a way to couple logs into sort of different files, and only show logs for a certain file
unkempt coyote
Like, certain python file?
heavy knot
Yeah, like disable logs on this file or smth
unkempt coyote
https://eliot.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ could be worth looking at
It does a lot more than separate by file, but you could certainly filter to a specific command with it
heavy knot
Oh huh, thank you
amber stream
Hi everyone, is it okay to ask a PyCharm setup question here?
limpid mulch
Ask away @amber stream .
amber stream
This might be a very basic problem, so my apologies in advance as I am a beginner. when in PyCharm, I am importing turtle (from turtle import *), however once I am on line two, the import command greys out.
also, when a command is run, I can see lines been drawn, but the window quickly disappears
tawny temple
Being greyed out in this case means the import is not being referenced anywhere
As in, you've imported the turtle but have not yet written any code that uses turtle
So you can ignore that. It's not any error
amber stream
but it is also greyed out when I have a line that uses turtle for example forward(20)
finite fulcrum
what does it say when you hover over it?
amber stream
there is a yellow light bulb and when I hover over that it only gives me the option to optimise imports, when I do that it just removes the import line
forest bay
Hmm, that should work, it does for me in Python 3.7 terminal at least
What version of Python are you using?
mental mason
How do u specify a message when merging with git?
I tried adding -m while merging then pushing it to remote, theres no merge message
dark heron
I am trying to import a library that I have saved on my computer using PyCharm but it can't find it, I have linked the path in the interpreter and the done the "restart". What can it be other than me being stupid?
Its called library.xxxxx.pyd and in my project file I am trying to import it as "from library import *"
pure pulsar
@mental mason if the merge is fast forward, you don't get an opportunity to create a merge commit, you can use --no-ff to prevent fast forward merges
amber stream
@forest bay 3.7
mental mason
Thanks
Also, does this means the branch doesnt sync with the other? It happened when i merge them
delicate gorge
This just means exactly what it says, nothing more and nothing less
It has 3 commits deploy doesn't have and doesn't have 2 deploy has
mental mason
Nothing to worry about?
short mesa
Except if you did important changes
elder pier
Anyone use Jenkins?
tired aspen
unfortunately
heavy berry
Is this the right chat to ask about github?
I'm trying to edit my github repositories with github desktop but the only way I see is to create a new file or clone a repository from online
it looks like it's going to make a new repository, once I commit will it go to a new one or the repository online I cloned it from?
up until now I've only used github from a browser (not really looking to edit them in command line)
somber lion
You clone the repository from your account to your computer, that will set it up so you can push it to there.
eternal flicker
@heavy berry if it’s your online repository you can clone it then do your commits, it will show up when you push to your remote (online) repository
somber lion
One core thing about Git is that everyone has a complete copy of the repository. You don't commit to the GitHub copy, you do things on the one on your computer, then push it to GitHub to make that one match.
Cloning downloads the entire repo to your computer.
heavy berry
Ok good I was worried I would start making duplicate repo's thx
mental mason
How do i resolve this?
finite fulcrum
Update the branch if you mean "solving" the commits that are behind
hushed salmon
it depends on your taste
if you want something extremely complete with batteries included, go for pycharm
if you want to get started the fastest way possible and want something lighter weight, go for visual studio code
iron basalt
There's a good curated overview of your options here
http://pythondiscord.com/pages/tools/
hushed salmon
if you don't mind tweaking stuff a bit, use vim, neovim or emacs
heavy knot
I am a novice
hmm thank you
another question though
What is better; to try as many possible IDE/Editors or just pick one and stick with it?
hushed salmon
pick one and stick with it
hushed salmon
you can use VScode for python too, it works fine
a few of my colleagues use it
if you're already used to it for java it's probably a good idea
heavy knot
hmm
I am going to think about it xD
thanks 🙂
I am gonna learn python mostly to mess with Discord bots haha
hushed salmon
pretty sure you can do discord bots in java
but python is cool
always a good idea to learn it
heavy knot
😮
it that true?
I asked a friend of mine and he went down on Python. He said Python was the best and such
also u guys have a python discord channel so 😛
I wanna work as a programmer one day... big money
hushed salmon
yes, discord just exposes a HTTP API, you can use it with any language basically
just a quick google shows that there's a lot of people who already made wrappers around it for java
but discord.py has a huge community yeah
so it might be easier to get started that way
iron basalt
Yeah for Java there is JDA and Discord4J off the top of my head
Discord.py is just really nice to use though
heavy knot
😮
see xD I knew I would end up using python
I also gonna learn Python next period so :p
hushed salmon
mythong?
hushed salmon
anaconda is a python distribution for data science not an ide
it's cool but probably not what you want if you're gonna make a discord bot
heavy knot
Anyone know how to stop the python window that appears when using turtle, from closing once the script has run... when using VSCode.
if i run from commandline, I can run python -i which does the job
undone pecan
trying to use poetry, how do I select the active python version?
undone pecan
ah. i did user env, but not system
perhaps theres a better way to manage that locally in vsc
eternal flicker
If by active python version you mean the version requirement for your project, you specify that in pyproject.toml
undone pecan
ye i was getting an error by doing that
non active supported version or something
"The current Python version (3.7.3) is not supported by the project (3.8) Please activate a compatible Python version."
trying to create new venv for 3.8
i used to use pipenv but trying other tools
dephell didnt work at all
poetry seems like next best thing
eternal flicker
I have never heard of dephell
undone pecan
ye its the new kid on the block
seems like its trying to be the new pipenv but good
eternal flicker
huh, so it's like a tool to manage package tools?
undone pecan
pretty much.
plus dependencies etc
can be used with poetry and others as well
yep same error when trying to create venv :/
The current Python version (3.7.3) is not supported by the project (3.8)
Please activate a compatible Python version.
but then I also get this:
python --version
Python 3.8.0
oh interesting.
perhaps its cause i installed poetry on version 3.7
so just need to dl that again
eyy. that worked.
kind chasm
Which linter do you guys use in VS Code and why?
And I totally want to hear personal preferences
eternal flicker
flake8, it's a wrapper around PyFlakes, pycodestyle and Ned's McCabe script
it's what our server project repositories use for linting
undone pecan
i went with what the poetry guide just told me. which is also flake8.
although ive been using pylint since then
mental mason
Git question, can u fully reset a repo then push to to remote without deleting the repo?
tired aspen
I imagine you can - delete all branches and tags
undone pecan
re options for changing poetry venv loc?
undone pecan
think i have a new way that might work.
supple jackal
Ah, sorry
finite fulcrum
only dunders should start with more than one
supple jackal
I misunderstood the errors
damn now I deleted my question
the warning was because the method name wasn't all lowercase, not because of the underscores
nvm, thanks
heavy knot
Hi I have a pycharm question
when I try to paste some emojis into my editor
they look like a 0 width space
even though they exist because if I delete them it does get deleted
tired aspen
what's your OS; you may need to install a package to support emoji
do they work in other text editors?
heavy knot
hi sorry for copy and paste but im TOO lazy to type this out every time does anyone know how to set up python on vscode please please teach me
stable cloak
So is it giving you any errors or what is it doing
stable cloak
According to this you need to open the folder as a project so it can generate the appropriate files
stable cloak
File> Open I would think. I currently don't have it installed, sorry
marsh furnace
Does anyone have any information on installing python on an external drive that is capable of running cross platform?
foggy dune
I think that what you're looking for is a virtual environment. I have one for parsing data on my usb stick and it works pretty well. You will just need to activate it every time you're using it
marsh furnace
I'm looking to get an environment in which I can just boot either an IDE or a command window to launch the program
I'm not sure if that's how you're USB is setup or not. I've been attempting to get Anaconda to function off an external for mac however I cannot for the life of me get it to work
mental mason
I need help with git
So basically i have 2 branch for my project
- deploy
- develop
Develop is where i test stuff for my project b4 actually deploying it, and deploy is for deployment so it must be stable.
Is it recommended for me to merge squash develop from master?or just normal merge
topaz aspen
i'm just wondering what git-hooks people use? I've heard of people using them for formatting / linting, but my editor does these things
delicate gorge
@mental mason that depends entirely on you and your preferences / workflow
@topaz aspen it's usually meant more as an "in case you forgot to do this" type of thing
mental mason
Oh thanks
And for git reset --hard does that undo commits entirely to a specific commit? Like it removes the log and stuff?
tawny temple
yes
mental mason
So in a case where i work on the repo alone and i want to undo all of the bad commit, git reset --hard is a recommended way? Sorry im not experienced with git
tawny temple
Yeah, if you really need all commits past a certain point gone
mental mason
Hmm i see thank you
Oh sorry i still can't differentiate between
Git reset and revert?
Does revert only reset 1 commit?
tawny temple
Revert creates a new commit to undo a previous commit
Reset just removes the commit from history and that's it
topaz aspen
@delicate gorge ok cool, that's a helpful way to think of them thanks
mental mason
Im afraid to do this to my project but, I have 2 feature branch
-
One of the feature branch was already merged with develop branch
-
The other one is merged later in development
Since the other one doesnt have the first feature branch commits, what would happen if i merge the second branch with develop?
tawny temple
If the changes were to the same areas of code then you will likely get merge conflicts you'll need to resolve
However, if the changes touch separate areas then it will merge without any problems
Pretty much no different than how a merge normally works
mental mason
Oh, it would be in the same area, so like 2 feature branches works on same file but different contents
So that will cause merge conflict?
Sorry for the bad English
tawny temple
They wouldn't just have to be on the same file, they'd have to both modify the same lines
Usually when changes are in the same file, but to different lines, git can automatically resolve that
mental mason
Alright make sense, and i think its a bad idea too to work on different feature branch but on one file?
lost rock
"bad" depends. It's often necessary. Using a tool like meld or any other that helps you to resolve conflicts makes it quite easy, unless your two branches diverge completely
mental mason
Just as reference, say pink is feature and yellow is develop, both feature works on same file and same line, and i want them to merge to develop just like the picture, so now develop has the content from both feature 1 and 2
If that make sense
lost rock
yep, that's common. Just merge one after the other.
mental mason
I see, it's pretty confusing for starters 😅
lost rock
The second time there might be conflicts if some changes to the same lines of a file are different from how you changed the same lines in the other branch, then you'd have to resolve those manually and decide which to take
Do you use any GUI tool or command-line git?
mental mason
I use command line, but for resolving conflict vscode can show me where the conflict is
lost rock
vscode is quite terrible for git imo. What OS do you use?
mental mason
Windows 8.1
I use command line for git mostly, don't rlly want to depend on the IDE
lost rock
I like https://meldmerge.org/ for examining file diffs and git conflicts, unless I'm in PyCharm already (or any other JetBrains IDE, which have the best git integration out there imo)
mental mason
That's nice
Alright thanks for help, i'll try them
This is mostly for my bot project, wanted to seperate each command category development into different branches
lost rock
hmm, branches are mostly for concurrent development of independent features. If you work on them sequentially anyway or these changes are largely depending on each other, single (or fewer) branches might be better.
Your choice to find out what flow works best for you though.
mental mason
Yeah i think it might be too much for having that many branches for each feature but can also help me learn git
knotty fog
I am a python beginner I am using Vs code on Ubuntu ... I think it is too advance to me ...I often get problems and I hate the Vs code terminal .
So I am thinking to switch to a another text editor ....can anybody can recommend me any good text editor???
For Ubuntu and what do you guys use
ashen sluice
any specific problems/annoyances? might be able to suggest settings to change or extensions
iron basalt
don't feel pressured into using the built-in terminal, you can just open your own and tile it next to the editor
you can check pythondiscord's very own curated list of tools, it contains some recommendations for beginners
heavy knot
when i run the python script in vs code it open up powershell how do i change that to the vs code terminal
mental mason
U cant see a log for git reset right?
Like when i undo a commit, theres no history to that
tawny temple
Correct
mental mason
So the only log/history u can basically see are the commits?
tawny temple
Well, by definition, the history is comprised of commits
sand thistle
how can I commit a new scratch file to a git repository
tawny temple
In what sense would that be different than any other plain old file
mental mason
Hmm i see
tawny temple
Do you know how to commit a file in general?
sand thistle
I suppose
mental mason
When i just started, i made a big mistake by deleting whole repository to fix a mistake. But now i just realized i can reset it
mental mason
As for git, just want to make sure
What are the history u can see other than commit histories?
Maybe like history of commit reset
somber lion
git reflog tracks the history of which commits you've checked out.
Which does show the resets.
mental mason
Oh, so git reset --hard is also tracked?
somber lion
It tracks the commits you switch to, but not stuff you haven't committed.
So no that'd be lost.
mental mason
I see, thx
Cuz i want to reset till specific commit without leaving traces(without history)
somber lion
Why?
mental mason
Ah nevermind
dire quartz
How does Pycharm determine which type of test framework to use for a given file? I want to run a file, and Pycharm insists on it being a pytest test, which I can't use.
I just want to execute it as a normal script.
tawny temple
I thought it will use whatever run configuration you have (there are templates for tests too)
dire quartz
Ok, so apparently it has some kind of automatic test detection. Exactly how it maps which files to what test framework I don't know, but you can tell it to run the file as a normal script through the Run -> Run... menu.
latent cipher
Hi guys, need some input. I reverted a git merge from 'branch1' to master (with delete source branch) - on GitLab.
So i went ahead and pushed the same branch from local to remote again.
However, now it shows as no changes when i try to merge it. Even though there's a visible difference between source and target branch?
Any clue? : )
Edit: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-foss/issues/17387 seems to be the same as this issue
solid wasp
Looking for help installing spyder while only using miniconda/conda not anaconda dl or other alternatives like pip.
I have a ton of stack threads and other posts which skirt around it so I do have it all laid out and at the end of the day willing to just do anaconda worst case
solid wasp
@tawny temple ok I did see that solution
I’m new to channels and stuff so just to clarify it won’t install try to install anaconda?
And does that mean the package will be installed in that channel and it will have to be imported whenever doing new venv’s
tawny temple
Correct, it won't
I believe conda install -c anaconda anaconda would install anaconda
solid wasp
And I guess I’ll prob have to do one of the stack solutions to get a Mac app/shortcut running like anaconda which is fine and easy
tawny temple
Packages aren't install to a channel
channels are just a means of organising packages on the internet
so the conda tool can download from various channels
solid wasp
Gotcha just where to get it
tawny temple
kind of like, separate repositories of packages
like how pip can support other repositories besides PyPI, but PyPI is just the most popular
solid wasp
do you happen to know if spyder gets 2 or 3 ie -c spyder3 (I assume it doesn’t)
tawny temple
you mean its version?
solid wasp
Yeah
solid wasp
Cool imma test it now thanks @tawny temple
tawny temple
np
solid wasp
@tawny temple hey did it and it’s the same situation
let me do some more digging before
I think the issue is that is installing it here:
/usr/local/Caskroom/miniconda/base
where my miniconda is installed so now I call spyder and no command recognized
no sure if i need to create an alias or something and I'm on mac fyi
tawny temple
You probably need to add the miniconda bin folder to the PATH environment variable
solid wasp
gotcha ill give it a go
solid wasp
@tawny temple not working idk if its the fact that the path is to spyder exe's which do not run on Mac
also i only added path didn't make an alias
starting to seem that anaconda might be the only reasonable way
tawny temple
You may need have the environment always active then
have you done conda init before?
solid wasp
nope @tawny temple
lmao works now
I've honestly never seen that in any responses about it
thanks so much
i assume when installing anaconda it automatically does the init?
if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
source ~/.bashrc
fi
tawny temple
Probably
solid wasp
Also I don't know if you are familiar with mac but people recommended using above in profile
tawny temple
But what you showed is not related to the conda init
solid wasp
which i have set up
since Mac does default profile instead rc
I assume i should just keep the conda init in profile
it runs fine
tawny temple
sure
solid wasp
wasn't sure since people say put everything in rc
mental mason
I wanted to know
Say u have a private repo on github
Can people still clone it?
tired aspen
if they have access to it sure
undone dust
Hi all!
If anyone is familiar with RES for reddit, my Q is about the backup file .resbackup.
I want to use pycharm (or other method) to open this file, edit it, save it and then restore from it. The issue being, when i open this file its a loooong single-line, that pycharm wraps. I want to make it readable (all nice format like why we love python) to do edits. and then put it back to a single line so it still works when i restore it. I would really like to be able to accomplish this whenever i want to tinker with a new .resbackup. There must be many ways to accomplish this. ...I'm sorry I do not know how to better word this question and if this is wrong channel to ask. I'm still pretty n00b to python and pycharm. Thank you for any pointers.
EDIT... its a JSON file, so tell pycharm that and format the file, and tada! thx
obtuse cipher
It sounds like your workflow is fine up until the point where you restore the file so I wonder if putting it through a minifier would be sufficient
dusty hill
anyone love iPython?
mental mason
Can u move files with git?
violet belfry
vast spear
Hello, is there a library to make some sort of text based graph (tree) from a CSV file? I have a file with numerous workflow activities that can branch into other activities, that themselves can branch, and I want to write some code that structures it all. The format of the file is WORKFLOW, FROM_ACTIVITY, TO_ACTIVITY, OUTCOME, where FROM_ACTICITY is a starting node, TO_ACTIVITY is a node connected to FROM_ACTIVITY and OUTCOME is an edge between the notes. Hope it makes sense 😅
obtuse cipher
I don't know of one; I'd also like to know - I have a workflow automation project for which I'd like to map out module input and output models in a big graph.
dusty hill
wow, I just got ropevim working after 3 days of screwing around
Don't know if it is a keeper, or it is time to start looking at bicyclerepair
stoic quest
Hey folks
I want to ask this very urgent question
I can't commit my code updates
and I found that my remote origin is deleted
civic hound
whats the question?
stoic quest
your avatar fits the halloween. LOL
how do I add the specific github repository to that
not liket his
not like this other project that I have
eternal flicker
not like this other project that I have
what do you mean by this?
stoic quest
it does have those two origins, ok I have this two texts
git remote add origin https://github.com/.../project.git
ah
stoic quest
but still I can't add those in the untracked files when I say git add . then git status
eternal flicker
hm, what do you mean when you say can't add those in the untracked files, what are those?
stoic quest
there are still untracked files. in this project
it's a php project sorry but it has some python script there
eternal flicker
what does git status give you?
eternal flicker
can you show me the output of git status?
stoic quest
eternal flicker
does git add -A work?
eternal flicker
nop, git add . does not add deleted files, now only do I see that the files are modified
hm
stoic quest
$ gs
On branch master
Changes not staged for commit:
(use "git add/rm <file>..." to update what will be committed)
(use "git checkout -- <file>..." to discard changes in working directory)
modified: .phpintel/0391edbef02e73734f13af68595c8e2a
modified: .phpintel/078e0973782fc653ac7bad3d721c6846
modified: .phpintel/100e29313621df3b967cab31b416a318
modified: .phpintel/211ca9018e7438fe4e58f02ad2822f17
modified: .phpintel/2525bbb55ca203604103b262f9f6ebb7
modified: .phpintel/2a6db331523a6cfb9ea02c6fcb622a25
modified: .phpintel/3410b20430f1b2f00bd1a9852d940208
modified: .phpintel/391d40c504a3a76945afff19262fb31f
modified: .phpintel/5a6d9da42d6ed7f16022e2d0a5af7cb2
modified: .phpintel/5b546238aca8fdcb436d920ea3897298
modified: .phpintel/643ac2eaba73304c3fcfc16a217a6bdf
modified: .phpintel/76c84a2e1394a2e3bdb447fc4b146de7
modified: .phpintel/775dad17440d7e25edd1adae5f1cb0c3
modified: .phpintel/8033641a5098f1e008ead56476369a58
modified: .phpintel/8345554c7b73763e593da8674cdb3e85
...
Untracked files:
(use "git add <file>..." to include in what will be committed)
.phpintel/026b6b6354797c600a8e628b87f2305c
.phpintel/0628154eedb24fa424b2f463dfe1294f
.phpintel/07cb5964163fb0608652f58998cd65c5
.phpintel/0a8e84b5dbb7747c043d40b672ada0c5
.phpintel/0c8054a0fc59820d47cc2f1b5a98c6a0
.phpintel/126517d4f4ca9a7e7877311bcdc20632
.phpintel/13154888e2f3d8989539f6e0331f2939
.phpintel/14e6b800b01648df150741c732b5f80d
do you have them ignored?
stoic quest
something like this
after I did git add -A
after I do like
$ git commit -m "Updated version, Offering new prices completely done, done some refactoring on the backend too"
I getl ike :
On branch master
Changes not staged for commit:
modified: .phpintel/0391edbef02e73734f13af68595c8e2a
modified: .phpintel/078e0973782fc653ac7bad3d721c6846
modified: .phpintel/100e29313621df3b967cab31b416a318
modified: .phpintel/211ca9018e7438fe4e58f02ad2822f17
modified: .phpintel/2525bbb55ca203604103b262f9f6ebb7
modified: .phpintel/2a6db331523a6cfb9ea02c6fcb622a25
modified: .phpintel/3410b20430f1b2f00bd1a9852d940208
modified: .phpintel/391d40c504a3a76945afff19262fb31f
modified: .phpintel/5a6d9da42d6ed7f16022e2d0a5af7cb2
modified: .phpintel/5b546238aca8fdcb436d920ea3897298
modified: .phpintel/643ac2eaba73304c3fcfc16a217a6bdf
modified: .phpintel/76c84a2e1394a2e3bdb447fc4b146de7
modified: .phpintel/775dad17440d7e25edd1adae5f1cb0c3
modified: .phpintel/8033641a5098f1e008ead56476369a58
modified: .phpintel/8345554c7b73763e593da8674cdb3e85
modified: .phpintel/89135968558452699319c2f70fd3d5d8
modified: .phpintel/953cd34e9d0ce082ae735493efae2d8e
modified: .phpintel/9b1a78697b0dba54014758fefd2f615e
any help would be appreciated mate
eternal flicker
I've been searching around but haven't found anything useful yet
have you tried specifying an exact modified file?
stoic quest
thanks for the effort mate
anyways it's a private repo
probably this one
what's this format all about ? where can I find that kind of format
vital rune
Hi all,
I have a GIT problem.
I have a web app. Let's say it's for company A. Now I need to use the same codebase and change the branding so I can re-use that app for company B. Of course I can maintain these projects in two separate repos , but if i wanted to fix any future bugs , I have to fix them in both repos individually. How to overcome this ? How to maintain both projects in same repo so I can share the same core-base ? (I'm kinda a new to git). Can I do this with branches ?
any help would be appreciated
tawny temple
You could have separate branches but perhaps a fork is more appropriate
Either way, the idea is that you'll pick one branch to maintain and then merge the changes into the other. Hopefully you wont have many conflicts if the only differences between them are in branding
Or ideally you'd have design the code in such a way where branding and assets are modular and can be easily swapped
mental mason
Can u change an old commit message?
random breach
has it been pushed yet
mental mason
Unfortunately yes
tawny temple
Yes, you still can
but you'll have to force push
You can do it with an interactive rebase. There are likely other ways but an interactive rebase is the way I know
vital rune
Thank you for the reply. I don't think i can make my assets modular. will it get messy quickly with the branching approach ?
sand thistle
so
I recently made a new .py file
and i want to add it to a current project
it's a new version of some code I was working on, I refactored it
how would I go about adding that to the branch
sand thistle
nvm
mental mason
I already asked this before sorry but i need to double check, can u clone/fork a private repo?
Say i have a private repo, and some people know its url but doesnt have perm to look at it, can they clone it?
dusty hill
if they can d/l it they can fork it
mental mason
So private repo only restrict people so they only cant see it?
mental mason
Ohh, only until i add them to contributor list that they can finally clone or fork?
tawny temple
That is correct
sand thistle
but if share the private rep url? they can see it?
finite fulcrum
no
sand thistle
yikes
mental mason
I see thx
In afraid private repo only makes the repo "invisible" but still accessible by others without perm
balmy cargo
that is not at all how it works
tawdry pelican
hey anyone able to help with pycharm?
violet belfry
!ask
rancid schoonerBOT
rancid schoonerBOT
tawny temple
You are meant to read what the bot said
tawny temple
The browser icons?
tawdry pelican
yeah
tawny temple
I don't remember if there is a setting to hide it (I suspect there is)
However
I do know there is a settings page that lists all the browsers
if you remove them all from that list then presumably that thing will disappear
The settings menu has a search bar I believe
if you search for "browser" you'll probably find what I'm talking about
tawdry pelican
where is the settings
tawny temple
ctrl + alt + s
dim bison
in sublime if you build your script and it asks for input enter name here >>> , how do you submit what ever you enter? if i hit the enter key it just goes to the new line
finite fulcrum
try shift enter
dim bison
neither shift enter or ctrl enter worked
urban elbow
Does it not work if you press enter twice?
dim bison
nope, goes down two lines
urban elbow
Wait, i haven't used sublime for a while but i don't think it accepts input.
dim bison
i know sublime 2 didnt, couldnt find anything about sublime 3
plush tree
ctrl+d maybe?
dim bison
sadly no, looks like it isnt natively supporte
tawdry pelican
hey
im using pycharm to make a website using flask
i am creating a static .css file and when i opened it, i noticed this warning came up
now does this mean that pycharm cant work with it in terminal or apply the files, ect. or does it mean that its just wont highlight mistakes or typos
furthermore, we have an issue as so:
is there a reason url_for cant be imported from flask? whats up with this
atomic cedar
the first picture is just a ad for the ultimate edition
in the second, the greyed out text means you aren't using it
not that it can't be imported
tawdry pelican
ah right
spoon moment
that happened when i imported render_template too 😛
anyhow so ultimate edition isnt needed, it will still function right?
tawdry pelican
ok next question
just popped an error from my from flask import url_for
from flask import
^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax``` thats the line the `from flask import url_for` is. its still grey because ive only used it in my main.css filehmm
rewriting it worked
false alarm!
true vapor
If I drive the mouse with pyautogui, can another program figure that part out?
Or is it indistinguishable from normal?
sand pivot
I have a github question:
- I was working out of the master branch instead of a feature branch. I made some changes to files and commited them to the master branch
I ran git reset --soft HEAD~1 which appears to have reverted my last commit to master (this is great!)
but now I want to commit these same very changes to my feature branch
how can I do this
lost rock
I think you can just git checkout -b new_branch_name to checkout the (newly created, because of -b) branch, and then add/stage and commit your changes as usual.
tawny temple
If you already have a feature branch you could stash the changes, check out the feature branch, then pop from stash
git stash push
git checkout featurebranch
git stash pop
thanks @tawny temple
I think my issue is a bit different than I originally thought
Here is what I did:
- I made some changes to my feature branch but Git was complaining that its behind the remote
when I tried to push I got this
error: failed to push some refs to 'https://github.com/GH/URL'
hint: Updates were rejected because the tip of your current branch is behind
hint: its remote counterpart. Integrate the remote changes (e.g.
hint: 'git pull ...') before pushing again.
hint: See the 'Note about fast-forwards' in 'git push --help' for details.```im afraid if I do a git pull it will revert all the changes I just made
and git rebase doesnt seem to work as I expect it to
in that, I go through and accept all the changes (via VS Code) but then I get to a message that some file has changed and that I should git pull again (but there are no files/changes visibile)
NVM, i just cut a new branch
heavy knot
So git just bugged out:
error: gpg failed to sign the data
fatal: failed to write commit object
every time I try to commit, this happens
eternal flicker
@heavy knot what OS are you on?
heavy knot
ubuntu 18.04
eternal flicker
@heavy knot Can you run your commit with GIT_TRACE=1 and check the log?
heavy knot
not very familiar with git other than committing, pushing etc
eternal flicker
if you haven't solved it yet, try GIT_TRACE=1 git commit -m test commit
hushed salmon
@heavy knot did you recently change your gpg keys?
if you don't care about signing your commits, running git -c commit.gpgsign=false commit should solve your problem
heavy knot
What does commit signing even mean
eternal flicker
Signing your git commits lets people confirm that it is actually you that made the commit
Since git just needs an email and a name, it is easy to just change it and impersonate someone else, make it look like the other person wrote the code
warm pollen
Well, git servers are configured to use http auth to reject pushes if you don't have access to the repo
Like you can't clone the pydis bot repo, make some commits using kosa name and email address and push them to github
You will need either to login to your account, sign the commit with your associated keys, or push with a trusted SSH key
eternal flicker
yeah, but can I make a new repo, make some commits using akarys name and email address and push to github? (I'm actually not sure)
warm pollen
I think if the address email doesn't correspond it will reject it
And probably if you use my real name too
heavy knot
Huh, that makes sense, but why do I get an error?
violet belfry
GitHub doesn't validate that the commit author matches the authentication credentials
mental mason
Sry if this is out of topic but for commit message, is it better to make it like
Replace attribute name or Replace attribute name with ... like a longer more descriptive message?
violet belfry
mental mason
Thx that's a really good one
R there also the one for tagging? It feels like i've created too much tag..
I currently have 90 commits with 8 tags, which makes me thinks that's a bit too much? (Its at v0.8.0 rn)
tawny temple
I only tag when I make a release
I suppose there is a bit of intuition involved in knowing when to make a new release
For smaller projects it's probably fine to release more frequently
like a patch version increment for one or two bug fixes
Somewhat related is semver
mental mason
Its discord bot project, and every new command category i made i always increment the minor number
Does refractor count as minor or patch?
tawny temple
I wouldn't make a new release because of a refactor
Unless it improved stability or performance somehow
But in a stricter sense a refactor is not supposed to modify the external behaviour of the program
mental mason
I see, I'm guessing i made too much tag then
I thought its better to tag after u implement a new feature right away
tawny temple
You can do that if you like
Some prefer to group some changes together, which I find tends to be the case as a project gets larger
mental mason
Yeah make sense, thx
heavy knot
I have an error:
And it goes smth lik
"expected not an integer"
Why does this happen? I'm on Pycharm
heavy knot
lost rock
I think that id should probably be a string instead of an int? Just guessing
ancient prawn
Howdy y'all! Getting started on Python after a year of JavaScript/Ember.js.... Got going on with IDLE, but it's really slowing me down. Just installed ide-python in Atom, but can't figure out how to get view the shell and run programs. Anybody using Atom around here?
tired aspen
if you're starting out jupyter notebook is great
otherwise pycharm is a very good IDE
not many people use atom these days; most such users moved on to vscode
vivid imp
@tired aspen @mossy crown so what do you guys like about flake8 and black respectively (for context i use vsc, but all these should work globally, pylint does at least)
frozen coral
@tired aspen why are people moving away from atom? B/C microsoft?
tired aspen
yeah I think vscode had more momentum and basically built up way more support and features
vivid imp
i didnt care for atom when i tried it, bloat, resource hog, vsc is like the only electron app i actually dont hate lmao
frozen coral
Atom is github, which is not microsfot too though isn't it?
tired aspen
it helps that MS championed it and got everyone using typescript to use it
vivid imp
tho pychram looks really nice
terse river
PyCharm is really good
frozen coral
it is the best
vivid imp
i might give it a shot again tbh
frozen coral
the built in profiler is bomb
vivid imp
i used it ages ago, idr if i liked it or not lmao
tired aspen
black is not a linter technically - it's an autoformatter
vivid imp
ah ok
tired aspen
I can't remember exactly why flake8 is better - I vaguely remember doing research on linters years ago and came to that conclusion
I do remember things like - pep8 is too lax, pyflakes being outdated, flake8 having lots of plugins
do use mypy too though, it has powerful type checking
vivid imp
awesome
tired aspen
if you're into type hints though
vivid imp
im super new, so hints are great
remembering to add self to shit is also a thing i need to remember, pylint doesnt tell you "btw add self to that"
frozen coral
Is pep8 just the rules? or does it lint too?
tired aspen
https://pypi.org/project/pep8/
is named after the PEP-8
as the name implies it pretty much just tests violations of PEP-8
mental mason
Flake8 combines various linters
vivid cargo
@ancient prawn
There atom-terminal plugin but it sucks since it slows atom even more
random breach
i seem to be getting an infinite loop in nuitka with --follow-imports
it just seems to be optimizing the same modules over and over
not sure where to start figuring out whats going wrong
white dirge
Does anyone here use Atom for python?
heavy knot
Pycharm doesn't show emojis, they just show as a zero width space
ancient prawn
@vivid cargo Didn't even think about how much Python would slow down atom. Yeesh. Thankful @tired aspen hooked me up with CyCharm. I'm loving it.
vivid cargo
👌
heavy knot
Hii! How can i install Python 3.6 on termux?
smoky grail
Why do you need 3.6 specifically
lament needle
For anyone who's interested, I made a video today on an introduction to Profiling on Jupyter Lab. Hope it's useful to some of you : https://youtu.be/MgBgMyYROTE
heavy knot
trishmapow I have a bot what only works with this version
smoky grail
Well this is where termux switched from 3.6.6 to 3.7.1 you could probably copy the scripts and run them manually? Not sure. https://github.com/termux/termux-packages/commit/f156702ce7345de24f4f6c6e25c43c97848cec23#diff-66df91d4764712eb5ee432cfb13ffb28
finite fulcrum
Why wouldn't it work on versions above?
heavy knot
I dont know
livid schooner
having some trouble with pip on windows 10. i upgraded from python 3.7 to 3.8 by just installing 3.8 from python.org, and then i uninstalled 3.7. but now pip isn't working anymore, what should i do?
apprently i still have both folders https://gyazo.com/917abc20464a37e23ce265cbec616399
atomic cedar
try running py -3.8 -m pip instead of just pip
because pip may still be associated with python 3.7
atomic cedar
typically you wouldn't uninstall the previous version when you get a new version
livid schooner
but i'm wondering, if i were to try pip install which installation would get the package?
atomic cedar
depends
livid schooner
yeah, probably shouldn't have done that
atomic cedar
with the results you got before, it probably would have been python 3.7
but you uninstalled 3.7 so it got errored
livid schooner
the folder for 3.7 is still there, though
atomic cedar
but none of the 3.7 stuff is in that folder though
livid schooner
trying to install packages results in a fatal error listing file locations within the 3.7 installation
atomic cedar
are you using py -3.8 -m pip?
to install packages, you'd just do something like py -3.8 -m pip install <name>
atomic cedar
try rerunning the 3.8 installer
livid schooner
alright
atomic cedar
making sure you have add to path checked
livid schooner
should i delete the 3.7 folder?
atomic cedar
if there's nothing in it, sure
livid schooner
it's full of files
livid schooner
i'm particularly worried about the lib files
i thought i did, but the files are still there
atomic cedar
if you uninstalled it, none of the core files should be in there anymore so it should be okay to delete it
if you want 3.7 back you can always just rerun the installer for 3.7
livid schooner
but the libs i've installed are still there
should i try moving the libs from there and into the 3.8 folder?
atomic cedar
(which is why you shouldn't have uninstalled 3.7)
because you could have run pip freeze
to get a list of all packages you already installed in 3.7
and then pip install -r <file> to install packages listed in the file
livid schooner
"you need permission to perform this action
you need permission from JEFF\Johann to make changes in this folder"
https://gyazo.com/e6502c33f9058132f355748e090bc432
...this is an admin account
livid schooner
i've closed literally everything even mildly related, still won't let me
is there any cmd command to uninstall python
uhhh, now it's apparenly gone
alright, now it just tells me pip isn't a command. no more error messages about fatal errors in the files
atomic cedar
did you rerun the 3.8 installer?
livid schooner
should i uninstall it before trying that?
livid schooner
tried both repairing and modifying, pip still isn't working
tawdry pelican
so can anyone tell me how to fix this? im using pycharm
my code is the following:
from flask_wtf import FlaskForm
atomic cedar
@livid schooner well the next best way would be to add it manually
search up environment variables in the search bar
and in system variables look for PATH
livid schooner
even better, the problem i was trying to solve by updating python isn't fixed :)))))))
atomic cedar
what was the problem before?
livid schooner
i've explained it like 3 times now in various help channels here xd
@atomic cedar
atomic cedar
do you have a paste of the entire code?
sharp tide
Does anybody else encounters a problem with Pycharm Pylint Plugin?
It seems to ignore my .pylintrc file
twin hull
Hey, is pushing the venv environnement related to the project a good practice?
I would like to include a venv environnement on a repo, with all the modules loaded (It may be to big to push though)
random breach
usually you push the venv config files (whether that includes a requirements.txt or pipfile or etc) and let people recreate it on their end.
not only is it good practice, some might argue it is the main selling point of virtual environments
vivid cargo
@twin hull
Hey
Usually putting whole venv folder is not the best solution since some people may use different py version or even different platform/os
Usually requirements.txt is only committed since you can setup and configure you own enviroment just with one file, and not mbs of venv jibble jabble
twin hull
Ok, I thought a venv folder contained python
At the beginning I was using pipenv, but I've been thought to use venv instead
more flexible
vivid cargo
It contains python enviroment, but it is not wanted to bloat your projext with unnecessary megabytes
twin hull
In fact I use librairies that aren't all on Pydi, that's why I left pipenv
twin hull
yes
Well, in fact this is the command:
pip install -U git+https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py@master#egg=discord.py[voice]
vivid cargo
Then leave in your readme how to install necessary libraries
twin hull
If I use pip freeze it won't include them? Even though I installed them using pip?
vivid cargo
If you installed it through pip, pip freeze should capture it
twin hull
^ ty
mental mason
I think this is the right channel to ask git, do people seperate their account such as, one for git, one for personal?
Im really worried about this
Because i have one account for personal stuff (like game, other app) and another one for programming such as (github, posgres, Travis). Is this a good thing?
Sry if this isnt actually related to git itself
cold gate
Do you mean two GitHub-accounts? Or what kind of accounts are you talking about?
I just have my personal GitHub-account that I use
mental mason
No like, do people use their personal account for github, etc? Or they make a new account specifically for programming stuff
For security
cold gate
What kind of account are you talking about? A GitHub-account?
Or some other kind of account?
mental mason
Github
cold gate
I just have one, personal account
mental mason
I see, thank you. I'm just worried
twin hull
Is there anyway to restore a deleted fork? With the git history (I've it locally)
sand pivot
I have a bunch of commits in a local git branch that i want to squash into one commit
anyone know of a quick way to do this?
quick/and easy*
tired aspen
git rebase --interactive
dire quartz
Is there a way I can configure a pycharm code inspection to precisely respect a particular .flake8 file? Or is there otherwise a way to run flake8 through the IDE (not in the integrated terminal)?
ancient prawn
Anybody use Alfred around here? Trying to figure out how to return more than 20 words from a search from power thesaurus. Source code is Python but not finding where the 20 result max is set. https://github.com/clarencecastillo/alfred-powerthesaurus/releases
frank compass
@dire quartz You can ignore specific flake8 rules, and you can also run it if you add it as an external tool first
dire quartz
How do I get inspections for flake8 rules in the first place?
And I mean, when I say run it through the IDE, I mean that I also want to get the detected issues listed and searchable in the IDE (the way they are when you run an inspection).
frank compass
How do I get inspections for flake8 rules in the first place?
I don't think you can, but you can ignore specific rules
Editor > Inspections > PEP 8 coding style violation
There's also PEP 8 naming convetion violation
When you select them you can add rules to an ignore list
lost dust
why would there be conventions for that🤔
mental mason
Just want to know
lost dust
I don't think there are any
tawny temple
Not really a convention but I usually add a readme and a license
Sometimes you don't know what either of those are when you begin a project so can't always start off by adding them
mental mason
I see, i decide to add empty readme and license as initial commit then proceed
mental mason
ive recently read about EOL, and im on windows. is it better for me to convert all CRLF to LF when to pushing (git)
lost rock
heavy knot
hi guys
sand pivot
So say I checked out a master branch and creaetd a new branch (branched off master)
then I made some changes locally but havent committed to the remote branch (of my local) yet
but I want to get all the latest changes of master
should I use git rebase master
tawny temple
Yes, if you want to avoid a merge commit
Alternatively git merge master
you may want origin/master instead
if you just use master you need to check out your local master branch and pull the changes
with origin/master you just need git fetch origin
livid schooner
a while ago, i apparently managed to make a git repo out of my entire user folder. how can i reverse this?
on windows 10, if that matters
violet belfry
Delete the .git folder
soft isle
On VSCode trying to use Go to definition seems to fail for me and then break autocomplete until next restart. https://puu.sh/EFTLH/6c27cfaeef.mp4
This is using the official python extension and fails both locally (win 10) and using the remote ssh extension (on raspbian). Anyone seen something similar?
mental mason
GIT
How do u make a branch from previous commit instead of the current commit?
Like i want to move the HEAD back then branch off from there instead
tired aspen
https://stackoverflow.com/q/2816715/2038264
found this by googling "How do u make a branch from previous commit instead of the current commit"
pliant hedge
Anyone else's Themes not working on the latest VSCode on macOS?
crystal basalt
dire quartz
I added a new source file to a project, and for some reason Alt-Enter (quickfix?) suggestions don't seem to show up, to add missing imports and such. What's causing this and how do I fix it?
coarse rapids
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