well, all env have the basic wrappers which takes some some space, whether you do it by yourself, or with pycharm
#tools-and-devops
weary fulcrum
crystal depot
i see
weary fulcrum
do you have a requirement.txt file?
also, on your repo, you can add the venv folder to .ignore
and it won't send all those docs to your repor
crystal depot
oh true!
weary fulcrum
because I believe the env will break when moved anyway
unless you move it properly
crystal depot
hm, do you happen to have any good resources for virtual env, I think I have a grasp of it high level now
weary fulcrum
and then when you go to a different location, you can just reinstall the requirements
crystal depot
or should i just learn by using it and seeing how it breaks
weary fulcrum
one other thing, you can look into virtualenvwrapper, makes life so much easier
and no prob mate
forest bay
Pycharm will automatically make virtual environments for you
crystal depot
I feel like my system level installs now are probably a gross mess between python 2 and 3
so virenv's will probably be really good for me
forest bay
Settings -> Project Interpreter -> gear icon -> Add -> Then select a new environment
You can use Pycharm's default folder or select your own
You can mange packages from the same area in settings
Or open a terminal and activate the environment yourself
On Linux: source /path/to/environment/bin/activate
On Windows: & \path\to\environment\Scripts\activate
crystal depot
the terminal part, is that how I can switch from using 2.7 to 3 (or vise versa) as my default python?
crystal depot
mac
forest bay
...ah
crystal depot
yeah ๐ฆ
forest bay
The one platform I don't know
crystal depot
its similar to linux normally
forest bay
Also the one with the most convoluted Python ecosystem
forest bay
It's a weird BSD fork that has some of the standard tools, and doesn't have the rest because they're GPL licensed or some BS (/rant)
This is why virtualenvironments are so handy
cunning fog
Is there a tool that automatically formats the code with pep 8 recommendations?
crystal depot
yeah, that's exactly why this is piquing my interest now
cunning fog
sorry for cutting XD
forest bay
Create a Python 2 one:
python -m pip install --user -U virtualenv
python -m virtualenv ~/py2env
source ~/py2env/bin/activate
Python 3:
python3 -m pip install --user -U virtualenv
python3 -m virtualenv --python=python3 ~/py3env
source ~/py3env/bin/activate
If you get an error about pip not being installed, do this: python -m ensurepip (possibly as sudo)
crystal depot
awesome, added it to my notes and will give it a shot
forest bay
Doing the -m thingy gets you around annoying issues, and --user means you don't have to use sudo
@cunning fog Yes, several. Two I know are black (https://github.com/ambv/black) and yapf (https://github.com/google/yapf)
crystal depot
awesome, i'll man them too and read into it a bit more. Thanks!
forest bay
Cool
Python actually has a virtual environment tool built in, venv
It's called venv on Python 3 at least, dunno on Python 2
But it's a little more limited than virtualenv
Oh, apparently there isn't a Python 2 version of venv
This might be worth reading: https://stackoverflow.com/a/41573588/2214380
crystal depot
bookmarked!
forest bay
It's a 3-5 minute read
cunning fog
it worked thanks @forest bay
cunning fog
the yapf
but sometimes it doesnt work is strange
nvm, I just misused it Its working right now
cunning fog
yes it did
forest bay
Nice, I'll have to try it again sometime. Ran into some issues when I tried, but also didn't have a whole lot of time to spend on it.
cunning fog
Yeah the thing is that you have to write a code instead of just clicking a button like autopep8, but the final result is much better for yapf imo
spiral pendant
I heard something cool today on TPTM called https://pyup.io/ it checks dependancies and stuff your project requires for known security vulnerabilities
heavy knot
That sounds wack, nice
vague silo
I've got a dependency that I've pulled from GitHub. How do I force pipenv to update it? pipenv install tells me the requirement is already satisfied, is there no way to pass the -U flag to pip? pipenv update doesn't do anything either.
dawn stump
try pipenv lock and then pipenv sync --dev
forest bay
Then try rebooting and installing gentoo
dawn stump
there's also pipenv clean
if it completely refuses then: pipenv --rm and pipenv sync --dev that gives you a fresh env
forest bay
Time for Gentoo you mean
heavy knot
how the fuck do i download emacs on windows 10
blazing prawn
forest bay
EMACS on Windows...that seems like heresy
lost rock
Forgive him, Father Stallman, for that he has sinned. ๐
glass kindle
Hello everybody ๐๐ฟ
I'm trying to lint my files with pylint that import arcade (game library built on pyglet), but linting an empty file that only imports arcade takes 3 minutes to run and I have no need to lint the library itself. Somehow I fail to find documentation on how to skip checking a module, without having to modify the module itself (which I don't want to have to do, it's not my module), despite intense searching. I assume there must be some super easy fix and that it's a super common problem ... but yet I fail. Help?
I'm doing this for a course and want my students to quickly lint their own files, so putting this into CI is not an option.
copper compass
@glass kindle Is the library also part of the project you're in?
Is there a physical separation somehow?
You can use a tox.inifile to exclude directories
well
assuming you're linting with flake8
the actual file you use depends on the tool
glass kindle
arcade is installed with pip so it resides in a completely different path.
I've been using pylint but if it's easy to do with flake8 I might use that instead
running flake8 on my files were instant, so looks like it's ignoring imported modules by default perhaps
glass kindle
sweet. I'll use that instead then. I don't really care too much about specific features, just that students try using some sort of linting so flake8 will do the job. Thanks!
copper compass
If you find flake8 doesn't catch everything you want
it supports plugins
eg flake8-bugbear, flake8-import-order, etc
it's handy to look around at those
there's no configuration, you just install them and they work
glass kindle
good to know
heavy knot
pycharm automatically reformats file as the style guide says, why need flask8?
copper compass
nope
heavy knot
Ctrl Alt L
copper compass
it doesn't follow the usual style guides to that letter
it follows most of pep8
but not every project follows pep8 that closely
heavy knot
oh
copper compass
most linters - eg flake8 - are much more strict as well
you need to understand that linters are a smaller part of a larger toolchain
heavy knot
But the ide's file reformat settings?
copper compass
you set up a linter with your project's style guide so that you can enforce a consistent style across your entire project
usually, you use it as part of your CI process
so, someone pushes code
the CI server tests and lints the code
and rejects it if the code doesn't lint
heavy knot
oh
copper compass
it's also way easier than forcing people to update their IDE settings
and it can be integrated into the workflow - eg, with git hooks
heavy knot
cool then
copper compass
they're a very valuable part of the development process
although I agree that PyCharm's inspection tools are nothing short of amazing
you need to have more safeguards than that
glass kindle
linters are ๐ฏ the best part personally is how much I've learned by having bad coding practices pointed out to me
plain saddle
Octodude, is there a plugin or some other way to make pycharm check like flake8?
copper compass
@plain saddle unfortunately not
There's a ticket open to have inspections driven by external tools
but it's not in yet
plain saddle
Okay. Thanks for the info
winged karma
how can i make vscode always look at variables
coral temple
how can I make PyInstaller use Python 2.7.10 instead of Python 3.7 (I am aware that it doesn't support 3.7)? I'm using it on a script that was written in 2.7 and python --version returns Python 2.7.10, but when I use PyInstaller it always outputs "Python: 3.7.0"
copper compass
You need to make sure you use the pyinstaller installed to that interpreter
assuming it's a runnable module, python -m pyinstaller should work
@winged karma That question doesn't make sense, can you be more specific?
copper compass
VS Code isn't an IDE though
copper compass
Because it's fast and light
There might be a plugin for it, but the developers do not intend on adding such a feature
coral temple
@copper compass thanks a lot! for some reason i derped and installed it with pip3 the first time around. now i'm getting a different error message but i think i can fix it.
copper compass
No worries
coral temple
@copper compass sorry to bother you again, but I was trying to add a folder with pyinstaller. So I did pyinstaller --add-data 'resources:resources' myscript.py and after I made the dist folder it contains both the executable as well as a folder called resources with all the files in it. But whenever I try running the executable I get "No such directory or file: 'resources/file.png'". I checked and resources/file.png is in the dist folder with the executable. Do you know what is going on? thanks!
coral temple
didn't work 
heavy knot
does anyone know how to set up Eclipse style auto completion for parens/backets/quotes in Pycharm?Using Tab
https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-74666 this is original topic about Tab issue,but,it still doesnt solve my problem
civic hound
do you run that version of pycharm?
It is an Early Access Program
PyCharm 2018.2 EAP 6
this is the latest early access version of pycharm 2018.2
heavy knot
@civic hound thank you,just download EAP it work well
oh my bad,I didn't check my pycharm's version
civic hound
that is no problem, luckily your latest screenshot gave me the answer you needed
heavy knot
I have to read carefully next time,however,thanks for helping ๐
uncut oxide
You can use Jetbrains toolbox to keep your apps up to date automatically
There's a free download the website, price is for the licences themselves not the toolbox software itself
woeful geode
Has anyone used the dyanmic django scraper app? any feedback?
near terrace
would you recommend pycharm to a beginner or should I use smth else
rancid schoonerBOT
copper compass
There's a listing for IDEs here
feral willow
Alrighty, I'm using my dads computer now because I do not have my own. After commiting and pushing the README.md (followed the instructions from gitlab), my dads full name came up on the commit and it said it was "authored by " my dad. Is there a way to remove the last commit from gitlab or at least remove my dads name from there? ^^
@vague silo ^ ๐
vague silo
yeah, although it's somewhat complicated
if it's the last commit it's a bit easier
is it?
vague silo
$ git commit --amend --author="Beat Su <email@address.com>"
and then ```sh
$ git push -f
to overwrite the history on the remotefound on https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3042437/how-to-change-the-commit-author-for-one-specific-commit#3042512 btw
feral willow
@vague silo I ran the first command and it says "Please enter the commit message for your changes. Lines starting with "#" will be ignored, and an empty message aborts the commit."
And then my name<email>, the date and at last the commiter (Which now has my name, but still my dads name as well because it is his pc (dad@dads-macbook-pro.home))
vague silo
commit message != commit author
for commit message, you can just leave that for amending
it will use the message from the last commit by default
just re-run the command and remove that from the message there
message and author aren't edited in the same field afaik
feral willow
I didn't quite understand, but I cant write anything in the terminal now
Pressing enter only goes to the next #
sinful zinc
@feral willow let me guess, it put you in vim and you don't know how to use vim
feral willow
I dont know what vim is
It says ""Please enter the commit message for your changes. Lines starting with "#" will be ignored, and an empty message aborts the commit.""
sinful zinc
ok... type this key sequence exactly to delete everything and quit vim to abort the commit: ESC, ggdGZZ
feral willow
And everything is after # on each line
sinful zinc
then export EDITOR=nano and do the command again
feral willow
and hten ggd Shift+G and so on
sinful zinc
gg moves to first line, dG deletes to end, and ZZ saves and quits
feral willow
There
sinful zinc
(If you're interested in learning vim, I'd be willing to help, but it'd be easier to just use nano to solve your problem for now)
now run nano to check if it's installed, then export EDITOR=nano, then do the commit command again
sinful zinc
exit out of nano and do that in your shell, yeah
then when you do the commit command it'll come up in nano instead of vim and you'll be able to edit it normally
feral willow
It says "Save modified buffer (ANSWERING "No" WILL DESTROY CHANGES) ?"
aaaa I dont understand any of this
sinful zinc
in vim?
sinful zinc
it's the temp file for the git commit message
feral willow
This is really confusing
sinful zinc
it should already be filled in with /whatever/.git/COMMIT_EDITMSG
feral willow
I never wanted to change a commit message though
I only wanted to change the author of the last commit
sinful zinc
you don't have to change it - it comes up with the original commit message and you can leave it alone
feral willow
Or just delete the last commit all together with no traces
ok
So what do I write for "File Name to Write: "?
sinful zinc
...it's not already filled in?
feral willow
No
sinful zinc
i asked, is this after you did the export and commit command, or did you just run nano by itself
i can't see what you're doing
sinful zinc
ok just don't save then, i said multiple times "if this is after you did the commit command" and you didn't correct me
sinful zinc
sorry i thought you were after that point since you were asking about the export command
feral willow
Do I write export EDITOR=nano now?
sinful zinc
yeah
sinful zinc
then run the commit --amend command again, and you should be able to just exit without changing anything if you don't want to edit the commit message
i just realized, there's a --no-edit option you could have done to skip all this
feral willow
Oh
Ok so I exited the nano editor thing after doing the export command
And ran the git commit --ammend command again with --no-edit
Maybe that wasn't the wisest choice
sinful zinc
well what shows up now in git log
feral willow
In git log theres a commit and it says the author is me
@sinful zinc Sorry for late answer, had to put my brothers to bed
do I just push now?
sinful zinc
yeah
if the commit with the wrong author was already pushed you'll need --force or --force-with-lease (the latter is safer in cases of shared repositories)
feral willow
ok, the last commit was pushed
So do I use --force or --force-with-lease? ^.^
I have also only ever used git push
Nothing else after that
Except for setting up repositories when it says git push -u origin or something
So shall I run git push --force-with-lease?
Or shall I add -u originor something in there?
@sinful zinc
sinful zinc
just use --force-with-lease
there's not a downside to it other than being slightly longer to type tbh
feral willow
so git push --force-with-lease?
sinful zinc
yeah that should work
-u was only really needed once and the whole point of it was to make it so you didn't have to put origin every time
feral willow
It said remote rejected
feral willow
remote: GitLab: You are not allowed to force push code to a protected branch on this project.
sinful zinc
do you own the project or is it a shared project? you'll have to go into gitlab and change the settings
sinful zinc
it might have made more sense to just delete the repository and start over if creating the readme is all you have
feral willow
Ok i managed to delete it
sinful zinc
or do that i guess
feral willow
I'm just starting over
sinful zinc
ok
feral willow
So now I want to create a respository and be able to commit to it with my name, not the one from the current user I am on or computer name
sinful zinc
ok
did you set up git config --global user.name and user.email ?
that's how you make it use the right one by default
(it can be a repository setting too, but it probably makes sense to set it globally)
feral willow
ok I have done that a while ago
I guess I will do it again just to be sure
Can I choose not to show an email instead?
sinful zinc
i mean, you can put anything you want in that field, technically, if you don't want your real email address, but i don't think you can just leave it blank
feral willow
Oh okay
feral willow
Ok
sinful zinc
so if you really don't want to include an email address, just git config --global user.email '<>'
feral willow
Ok done
Now, to add, commit and push files, I just do git add ., git commit -m "Message"and git pushright?
sinful zinc
yeah
if you're going to use git add . you should list any files you don't want included (like *.pyc) in a .gitignore file
or you can git add specific file names instead
feral willow
Ok, I created a file called run.pyto test
I ran git add ., git commit -m "First test commit" and git push
Nothing is happening now though, it is just blank after
Counting objects: 3, done.
Delta compression using up to 8 threads.
Compressing objects: 100% (2/2), done.
Writing objects: 100% (3/3), 258 bytes | 0 bytes/s, done.
Total 3 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0)
Ok there it finally finished
Took 1 minute
Sorry ๐
Alrighty, thanks for the help
sinful zinc
yeah no problem
feral willow
Aaaa git is annoying me
I'm just going to go without it because I don't understand anything and if I make 1 mistake, I have to run 5 commands and change some settings to revert it
lost rock
eh, basic git is just git add, git commit, git push and git pull, plus maybe a hand full of lines you need once to set it up, which you can copy from somewhere...
it's really not that hard as long as you don't do complex stuff
vague silo
@feral willow it's completely normal, i also felt overwhelmed with it at first. but once you understand it, it's really great to use
feral willow
@lost rock I think I've got that in place, but undoing commits and stuff, I find it easier just to delete the repository alltogether and start again
dawn stump
--hard
dusk elbow
Does anyone know why FROM python COPY ./src CMD ["python", "/src/get-pip.py"] in Dockerfile yields an error when trying to build
dawn stump
what's the error?
dusk elbow
Error response from daemon: Dockerfile parse error line 1: FROM requires either one or three arguments
Very new to Docker so don't know what to make of this
dawn stump
just to be sure, is it all one line, there or is your dockerfile actually three lines?
dusk elbow
it's all in one line
dawn stump
okay, I believe that's the issue, try it like this:
FROM python
COPY . /src
CMD ["python", "/src/get-pip.py"]
and mind the space between the . and /src
dusk elbow
Thank you!! it work
dawn stump
๐
dusk elbow
After pulling mythril/myth and running docker run -v $(pwd):/tmp mythril/myth -x /tmp/contract.sol I get an error: C:\Program Files\Docker Toolbox\docker.exe: invalid reference format: repository name must be lowercase.
I renamed my .sol file to exactly what's here (https://github.com/ConsenSys/mythril/wiki/With-Docker) and ran that exact code
heavy knot
@dusk elbow Security analysis tool? @deep estuary didn't allow me to share my security analysis tool. bad people can use it too.
dusk elbow
uh it's public
deep estuary
kip, your security tool was a bruteforcer last time I checked
deep estuary
Not going to be shared here kthnx
heavy knot
it is same harmful as his project
dusk elbow
but it looks like nothing in the repo is uppercase so i'm confused by the error
dawn stump
@dusk elbow I wonder if the real problem is actually the $(pwd). Seems you're running this on windows?
dusk elbow
Yes I'm running on windows, what should I use if not pwd?
dawn stump
try giving it the actual path instead, depending on what terminal emulator you're using pwd might not even be supported, it certainly isn't in standard cmd
however it does exist in powershell, but returns an object not a string (as powershell does with everything)
dusk elbow
so do I give the full path with C:// after docker run -v
dawn stump
if you are using the powershell terminal this might work: docker run -v "$(pwd)".tolower():/tmp mythril/myth -x /tmp/contract.sol but I am completely guessing right now :D
I suspect the problem is that pwd returns a string that contains some uppercase letters
dusk elbow
I'm using the Docker Quickstart Terminal
dawn stump
alright, then I have no idea what to do
dusk elbow
I can't even find the dir /tmp
dawn stump
what do you get if you pwd in the quickstart terminal?
dawn stump
that certainly contains some uppercase letters
looks like the quickstart terminal is some form of console emulator, so it's trying to be as linux-like as possible
which means C:\ gets turned into /c/
so the real issue then is that this: /c/Users/GuapFIEND/Docker Toolbox contains uppercase characters, and the docker command is not happy about that
dawn stump
if you can, then maybe yeah, might be worth a shot
dusk elbow
Now I get the error docker: Error response from daemon: create $(pwd).tolower(): "$(pwd).tolower()" includes invalid characters for a local volume name, only "[a-zA-Z0-9][a-zA-Z0-9_.-]" are allowed. If you intended to pass a host directory, use absolute path. See 'docker run --help'.
Same with docker: Error response from daemon: create $(pwd): "$(pwd)" includes invalid characters for a local volume name, only "[a-zA-Z0-9][a-zA-Z0-9_.-]" are allowed. If you intended to pass a host directory, use absolute path. See 'docker run --help'.
dusk elbow
Running docker run -v cd:"C:\dockertoolbox\" mythril/myth -x contract.sol I get "docker run" requires at least 1 argument.
cunning fog
is there any tool/library other than matplotlib for graph building?
feral willow
Any tips for learning git or just play around and read the docs?
dusk elbow
ms paint
jolly silo
Depending on what you want to do, I think sucking it up and learning Matplotlib is worth it, even if only because most other plotting libraries are build on top of it.
Ya, Bokeh is an option. Pandas has a quick and dirty plot interface, if you're using pandas.
I've used seaborn quite a bit because it's pretty but I can still fiddle with the matplotlib knobs:
oooooo here's a list: http://pythonplot.com/
Git...
- https://try.github.io/
- http://ohshitgit.com/ (some of this is pretty advanced)
- https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2 (despite having "Pro" in the name I think it's pretty balanced, at least for the early stuff)
- It looks like https://blog.github.com/2012-07-04-try-git-in-your-browser/ got nuked, which is a shame
pastel plinth
is there a reasonable way to get native python, native pip, native bash on android or is that a pipedream? i've only seen sandboxes which doesn't really fit what i'd like an environment to be
i'd assume if there was it would be a root kind of thing
forest bay
Not AFAIK
pastel plinth
figured, i'll keep on looking but i think that's fundamentally counter to the "app" model
i have probably the most absurd reason for wanting it: in my go-bag, i keep an android tablet with the 65gb full text + pics wikipedia, and would appreciate if i could still do data science in a post apocalyptic world
gnuroot seems to be the closest thing i see, but it's still a sandbox, and maybe that's a good thing
heavy knot
guys somebody uses syntastic in vim to programming ?
vague silo
i use ALE, works pretty good
delicate gorge
that one should fit most of your needs https://atom.io/packages/ide-python
although the installation is a bit more complex than hitting install in the atom package search
@heavy knot
dawn stump
wich one is better for python: pycharm or vs code?
hidden quail
Pycharm is a more fully-featured IDE, where VS Code is just an editor. If you want something lightweight and easy to dive into, use VS Code. If you're familiar with Python already and want professional-grade features, debugging, autocompletion, etc., use Pycharm.
feral willow
Hey
I'm on a mac and I had to run some commands in order to see files beginning on ".". Is this easy to revert back to?
@vague silo You helped me with showing the "." files before in #help-coconut :P
vague silo
Yeah it is, one second
try defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles FALSE
and then killall Finder
since you used TRUE to show all
dawn stump
thx Lord :3
rare moss
hey i need help setting up nginx in docker compose, I am getting this error when trying to complete the build
ERROR: Service 'nginx' failed to build: lstat nginx/nginx.conf: no such file or directory
but the Dockerfile is in the same dir with nginx.conf
lost rock
seems like it's searching for it in a subdirectory named nginx though
copper compass
I responded in devops already
lost rock
oh, I just noticed it got spammed over half the channels...
copper compass
Posted in multiple locations, kind of annoying, yeah
jagged spire
does anyone have a list of small python tools or utilities that added a lot of quality of life to their development process, or can someone explain to me a good programming workflow? I feel like that gets skipped over a lot I feel like there has to be a better way than notepad and powershell
delicate gorge
bot.tags.get("resources")
rancid schoonerBOT
delicate gorge
the editor part there
also git together with github and/or gitlab is very nice
@jagged spire
jagged spire
thank you! Sorry I apparently missed that while reading the intro ๐ฆ
does pycharm have good integration with git? also, is there a way to use it with pipenv?
or integrate pipenv
delicate gorge
you shouldnt use pycharm as a beginner
but yes pycharm has extremly good integration with git
like all jet brains ides
and pipenv
well pycharm operates using virtualenvs so you could tell pycharm to use the virtualenv generated by pipenv
heavy knot
Nix - I'm a beginner and I use pycharm. Why shouldn't I, as a beginner?
heavy knot
could you give a few examples?
delicate gorge
all the autocomplete
all the imports
it does stuff for you you may not remember when you dont have it
and thats a problem because you cant always exepct pycharm to be present on your machine
heavy knot
I don't know anything it 'does for me', as such.
the autocomplete, sure it suggests what you can type from there, but itsn't always applicable.
delicate gorge
im sure lemon or gdude can tell you a lot more
im just repeating their words
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
fading egret
I think it's good that pycharm rants about PEP compliancy for you
Also Ctrl+B is a godsend (vscode has F12 but it doesn't go as deep)
Also docstring autoformat
jagged spire
I have been doing python dev for a while now so I am looking for something to make development not as much of a pain in the ass
fortunately I got pycharm for free with their student license
upbeat temple
pyhcarm is perfectly fine to use as a beginner, thats what i used initially. Although i do use vscode for quick projects.
But pycharm will setup git, publish it to github, sort out virtualenvs (or in the latest release pipenv) take care of .env files, sort out .gitignore.
it does a LOT of things for you
copper compass
PyCharm Edu is good for beginners
But it's widely accepted among most communities that you start with an editor and not an IDE
proper dew
I began with PyCharm as well
I won't use anything else lol
I can see it being overwhelming
For someone ENTIRELY new to programming
copper compass
It's not about how overwhelming it is
blazing prawn
I don't agree with Zed Shaw on much, but he gets one thing right in the LPTHW introduction:
The one skill that separates bad programmers from good programmers is attention to detail. In fact, it's what separates the good from the bad in any profession. You must pay attention to the tiniest details of your work or you will miss important elements of what you create. In programming, this is how you end up with bugs and difficult-to-use systems.```It's about learning the fundamentals without a tool that does things for you
blazing prawn
well, mostly right. I wouldn't call it "the one skill"
but yes to that and what G said, using tools that spot your mistakes for you hampers your ability to spot incorrect syntax and idioms without the aid of those tools
that's a large part of the reason we strongly advise that new programmers train their eyes before they switch to productivity enhancing tools
jagged spire
I think being lazy is a good thing. getting rid of tedious things is almost always good
blazing prawn
it's sort of a give a man a fish/teach a man to fish situation. PyCharm is a fishing machine that does a lot of the hard work for you, but if you find yourself without the fishing machine, the fishing machine breaks, or the fishing machine starts catching the wrong fish, it would be good to be trained as an expert fisherman so you could handle the problem yourself
copper compass
I like that analogy
jagged spire
yeah that works
upbeat temple
hell i only just learnt basic stuff a few weeks ago, because i just used VSCode exclusively for a while
so i agree, but someone did say that, it can add even more confusion to an already confusing start
cunning fog
how I can make pycharm autocomplete methods from a new library I downloaded?
it works for some of then but not all
young olive
I have set up Sublime. I have made a factorial program. the program works fine as I have used it on other IDEs. On Sublime when I input a number and press enter nothing happens.
heavy knot
Perhaps you should request support in the sublime text server
young olive
wheres that?
young olive
So I can't input in the bottom box? why?
livid schooner
which editor should i use? i've been using sublime just cause i already had it when i started, but is there anything i should consider that looks/works better for python specifically?
rancid schoonerBOT
hushed orbit
There should be a list of editors suggested on the resources page
livid schooner
thanks ๐
does visual studio code allow for running programs within the editor?
livid schooner
what i'm doing rn with sublime is writing the thing, then using cmd, but it's pretty wonky
hushed orbit
sublime has a code runner as well
livid schooner
oh?
hushed orbit
iirc it's something like ctrl + b?
dawn stump
ctrl+b for me, on windows
hushed orbit
That would be it
livid schooner
ctrl + g just opened up a weird white thing at the top
pretty sure that's not it lol
hushed orbit
Try b, I just remember it being in that general area
livid schooner
yeah, that worked. thanks
dawn stump
ctrl+g jumps you to a specific line if you type in a line number
livid schooner
ohhhh, that makes sense. thanks lol
dawn stump
ctrl+p and you can jump to a specific file if you type in the file name and it's in your project list
handy dandy
livid schooner
gosh golly darn
dawn stump
inorite
livid schooner
but uh, the code runner doesn't seem to let me input
dawn stump
no it only shows output
livid schooner
then where can i input things for the script?
dawn stump
I don't know actually
I guess executing in sublime is not that useful in this use case :(
hushed orbit
You could just simulate an input with hardcoded input.. but probably not as favorable
I don't think vsc likes input either
livid schooner
crap
that kinda invalidates the point of making a code runner lol
then i'm not sure which editor to use
hushed orbit
Can probably change it somehow given how this message is formulated. I just never bothered to find out
oh right, vsc as built in terminal
livid schooner
and code runner?
hushed orbit
Code runner would work if you're testing things with hardcoded inputs and prints etc
While you can test the rest with the built in terminal
livid schooner
wait, so
can i run a program with the code runner and use the terminal at the same time and use it to handle inputs?
livid schooner
yeah, so i can use it to take inputs while running
hushed orbit
In the terminal yes.
Using the code-runner addon it will just continuously wait for an input you can't provide
livid schooner
then what's the point of it?
hushed orbit
Running anything that doesn't include input ๐
livid schooner
oh, so you mean boring programs ๐ค
hushed orbit
Ehm, subject to own opinion I guess
hushed orbit
Python can do a lot without the use of a userinput
livid schooner
but you're not gonna get the interactive aspect from it
copper compass
And there are other forms of input anyway
hushed orbit
That too
copper compass
I mean, when was the last time you opened an application and it asked you to type into a terminal?
Does your browser do that? :P
livid schooner
but your browser isn't gonna do much if you don't tell it what to do after booting it up
also, does sublime have any way of getting the terminal?
dawn stump
I bet there's an package you can install to get that
copper compass
Yeah but you don't interact with your browser by typing text commands
livid schooner
it's still user input
dawn stump
why are you hating, interactive cli tools are neat
copper compass
yes, but it's not input()
hushed orbit
You know what, just use some module like tkinker and make your own input terminal that would work with code-runner 
livid schooner
๐ค
i don't think i'm quite there yet
i spend half an hour earlier trying to make a program that removes decimals from a number, before i was told by a guy in another server you can just int(float(var))
still fun to do lol
dawn stump
and it's a way to learn too
hushed orbit
That's an achievement in itself, to find the alternative ways of doing things
livid schooner
absolutely
that's what i like about coding, you've gotta think outside of the box and find solutions
hushed orbit
And if that doesn't work, there's always a hacky way to do it ๐
livid schooner
๐ค
hollow inlet
Hello
heavy knot
hey guys, i have a quick noob question about git which i suppose fits into here
does 'git clone ...' autoupdate?
dawn stump
what are you trying to do, and can you link what you're looking at?
heavy knot
i'm looking at this link atm: http://www.thisprogrammingthing.com/2013/automatically-updating-your-website-using-githubs-service-hooks/#
i have some code hosted on pythonanywhere
i cloned the repository in a terminal on the service, i want to be able to auto deploy whenever i push to the repository from my machine
it seems a bit involved, i think i'll be fine if i simply git pull each time i push to the repository
dawn stump
actually it's not so bad, it doesn't have to be super complicated, I run a small flask app that acts as my deployment starting point, that does exactly what this article you linked do, but using python instead of php obviously
heavy knot
i have a small flask app as well lol
dawn stump
you can basically set up github (or gitlab, or even bitbucket depending on what you're using) to send a webhook to the deployment app and have it pull the new code
dawn stump
yeah
to make it even more pro looking you could even set up CI with travis-ci and build and test your code, and have that send a custom webhook to your deployment api
are you familiar with using CI?
heavy knot
nope, i've never used CI before
never even heard of it ahaha
my app is only a personal project, i think using CI would be a bit overkill in my case
dawn stump
CI is super useful and it's well worth learning how to use, I can't recommend it enough, even for personal projects
and for coders who want to look favourable for potential employers it's a must
I'd be happy to help you get started if you want, a fair few people have already gone down this road too, so there's plenty of people here who can assist you
lapis hazel
listens in
dawn stump
(plus it's fun, but I am biased because CI is my job)
hushed orbit
listens in
dawn stump
:D
I feel like I should set up a reference repo
in fact I think I'll just do that now, but I gotta finish my lunch first
delicate gorge
It's 2 pm
hushed orbit
delicate gorge
How are you having lunchs-+
dawn stump
I had a big breakfast, wasn't hungry until now :D
heavy knot
CI looks pretty nifty
dawn stump
for my next trick, I'll convince Viibrant to use docker \o/
hushed orbit
I'm just going to point out, all this is alien to me.
dawn stump
I'm not being super serious, though docker is also very neat, however not super important right now, but CI is definitely the next step in your coding career
dawn stump
well you've come to the right place, cause ya'll gonna learn you some
hushed orbit
Ready to learn
heavy knot
that's where my interests really lie but i'd like to touch up my general programming
dawn stump
any who, give me a minute to set up a repo and stuff, and then we can talk about what's going on
heavy knot
cheers dude
dawn stump
yeah that's always an easy thing
now I just need travis to actually build, which it for some reason does not want to do right now
dawn stump
ah I've named the travis file incorrectly
dawn stump
confused it with gitlab ci's build config naming convention
alright so, @hushed orbit @lapis hazel and @heavy knot here's the reference repo https://github.com/Inveracity/ci-reference there's a lot of files in there but I'll try and explain it as best as I can, and here's the current build of the code https://travis-ci.org/Inveracity/ci-reference
heavy knot
it's doing a build!
dawn stump
in a minute we should see the build either pass or fail depending on whether my lint and unit test are good or not
heavy knot
we're good, nice
dawn stump
in travis it collapses output to make the run easily digestible, you can expand the output using the small grey arrows on the left hand side
there's a line that says $ bash scripts/deploy.sh
if you expand it, you'll see it says "deploy"
in the repo itself you'll find the .travis.yml file
this file is what tells travis what to do
heavy knot
how are dependencies sorted out?
dawn stump
on line 24 and 25 in the travis file, you'll see the line - bash scripts/deploy.sh
python packages or are you thinking databases and other services?
heavy knot
packages
I see the pipfile
how is that linked to the travis yml?
oh actually I assume it's the command on line 18
dawn stump
exactly
heavy knot
please carry on
dawn stump
so the end goal is getting the lint and test to pass and finally deploy the code
so line 24 says "after_success" which tells travis only to run the deploy script if nothing fails
a failure is determined by commands returning exitcode 0
heavy knot
so you put whatever stuff inside the deploy.sh to deploy it to whatever platform i assume
dawn stump
we run the lint and test through pipenv commands, not because it's the best idea, but because it's a simple way to ensure we're inside the virtual environment created by pipenv
that's correct
heavy knot
nicee
dawn stump
the linter I'm using is flake8, but you can essentially use whatever you prefer
the tox.ini file in the repo determines what pep8 rules to follow and other things
the unit tests use pytest, and the unit testing is pretty straight forward
it runs the flask app and makes a mocked request to the root endpoint and expects it to return status code 200 and the other test expects it to return a dictionary object {"hello": "world"} which should pass, otherwise flask would be horrific
so those are the very basic
finally the readme contains the little badge, and it's a lovely little thing that'll tell everyone who looks in your repo that your code is solid
however it appears didn't add it correctly
heavy knot
the readme?
dawn stump
the badge in the readme
hushed orbit
I'll openly admit this is above me ๐
heavy knot
me too but we gon learn
dawn stump
I know it's a lot to take in at first
hushed orbit
I haven't used most of the other tools mentioned either, so i can't draw any connections
heavy knot
you could still work it out though
hushed orbit
I am but a simple programmer 
heavy knot
bring the general concepts together
dawn stump
all these tools, flake8, pytest, pipenv are in my opinion foundational for every python programmer
hushed orbit
That's why I'm still here
heavy knot
good good
dawn stump
alright so, if you wanna try all of this, I urge you to create your own repos, connect your github account to travis
and then try a minimum thing
and a minimum thing can look like this:
# mything.py
print("yey")
# .travis.yml
language: python
python:
- "3.6"
script:
- python mything.py
actually i have a question
what's the best free host to deploy to that integrates with travis?
i'm thinking heroku but that has a cap on the number of hours per month
dawn stump
I'm not sure actually, I've always paid for a VPS and I like to make my own automation, so I deploy everything to those
dawn stump
cool, I've never actually tried heroku, but I like the idea of it
dawn stump
any ways, that's kind of it, feel free to ping me any time btw, I might not always be around though
heavy knot
thank you for your help today
dawn stump
excellent, and this dude (bar pipenv) does everything you need too
heavy knot
really bloody useful
oh actually i cant use pythonanywhere
ssh isn't supported for free accounts rip
is Slack worth using as well?
sentry**
i meant sentry whoops
dawn stump
it definitely is if you are writing huge applications and have a big team deploying code every day
heavy knot
i'm guessing not for personal use then
heavy knot
also actually i'm not going to use flask
i'm trying to deploy a telegram bot and i was using flask for posting but i've just realised that the bot library has webhook functionality built in
dawn stump
this is all pretty general, you can write anything you want
heavy knot
oh ok
open mason
I'm new to Python, going on 3 months. I'm looking for some advice on IDE choices. I know lots of people have opinions of which ones are good or less-good.
Right now I'm using either Eclipse with PyDev or IDLE. I like IDLE better, but it's missing a few options I keep going back to Eclipse for (or I haven't noticed the options are available.) In general I don't like Eclipse; I have a strong K.I.S.S. mentality and my unusual background in programming didn't expose me to lots of the functions an IDE like Eclipse has.
First, I like the outline explore window for hopping around the file. Second, I like the passive error checking. I'd rather not have to execute the code to find out I forgot the ":" at the end of an if statement.
A couple clarifying things: I am writing scripts for a stream chatbot, which means I am not writing .py files which are their own executable, and it has to be good for Python 2.7
lost rock
Normally I'd recommend PyCharm (as many would do here), which is a great IDE with many features, but as you're looking for something more simple, that might not be your cup of tea. I'd still suggest you to have a look at it if you don't mind.
IIRC we have a list of recommended IDEs and editors on the pydis website.
bot.tags.get resources
rancid schoonerBOT
open mason
i thought I remembered reading you had that resource somewhere, but I was mis-remembering it to be a channel. Thanks @lost rock
I see the bot responded in channel, but it has no message. Was there supposed to be something there?
barren iron
@open mason vsCode has been great for me
heavy knot
vscode is very nice
sublime text is good as well if you have other stuff open because it's lightweight, it's not an ide though
ruby cairn
Anyone here know about vscode tasks. I want to run a task that can send a command to the integrated terminal but am struggling as a lack of documentation and simple examples
Would it be better to do it as an extension
clever raven
okay so pycharm has a search bar in the top left of the settings menu
suuuper useful
rugged creek
it does?
clever raven
rugged creek
where is this
clever raven
search for "theme" and presto!
rugged creek
how do I access this
clever raven
you just open settings from File - Settings (or CTRL ALT S)
and then the search bar is in the top left
search for theme and click appearance and you should see your themes there.
clever raven
huh, what version is that?
rugged creek
2017.1
clever raven
anyway all the good themes are plugins so you might as well search for plugins
clever raven
oh you might be in the wrong place there
rugged creek
where is the right place
clever raven
you're in the Default Preferences
it should just be Preferences (or Settings on the version I'm using)
rugged creek
default settings
rugged creek
clever raven
I'm using 2018.1.4 on linux, and I frankly have no idea where it is on mac.
rugged creek
maybe i should update
rugged creek
copper compass
yeah, just realised it needs to actually be settings
I dunno where it is on mac either tbh
I'm on 2018.1.4 as well
rugged creek
copper compass
click more at the bottom
rugged creek
i did not see.
copper compass
oh, apparently it's called Preferences on mac? wut
clever raven
he found it
rugged creek
no i didnt
clever raven
oh
rugged creek
thats a py file
clever raven
what about the wrench thingy
copper compass
Maybe you need to update.
copper compass
you're using a PyCharm that's like
rugged creek
copper compass
over a year old
clever raven
yeah I didn't realize it was that different, though
but just grab the latest version
it couldn't hurt
copper compass
yeah
hushed orbit
While on the subject of themes
Can i make pycharm look somewhat similar to my vsc atm
rugged creek
why are you not using atom
copper compass
You can set up your own colour themes
if that's your thing
but I prefer the material theme plugin
hushed orbit
Can I modify icons as well?
clever raven
you could probably make it look reasonably similar to that, yes.
copper compass
hushed orbit
I like cute high saturation icons
clever raven
all colors can be fucked with
copper compass
hey @hushed orbit, do you like COLOURS?
rugged creek
2018.1
copper compass
Colourssssssssss
rugged creek
hot new logo
copper compass
Sounds about right
copper compass
dun dun dun
rugged creek
still goes to shelf
hushed orbit
Naijs, just have to turn up that saturation a few notches 
copper compass
You could wipe your settings and start again if you managed to break it
rugged creek
actually i think it was there before too
ok lol
still can't find it
what the fuck
ok
copper compass
@hushed orbit Take a look at the Rainbow Brackets plugin, and also "semantic highlighting" in the settings
copper compass
semantic highlighting assigns colours to variables by name
rugged creek
ooh material looks nice
copper compass
and rainbow brackets.. well..
rugged creek
im definitely going with material
hushed orbit
lol, neat
rugged creek
what do I after I've downloaded the theme
@copper compass also, how do I get rainbow brackets like yourself
copper compass
Install the plugin and restart pycharm
That's a plugin
it's called rainbow brackets
Once the material theme is enabled, you'll get some new buttons in the toolbar
rugged creek
I have a bunch of .jar files
hushed orbit
I should really get into the features of pycharm now that I like the look of it, at least before my pro runs out
clever raven
oh shit I didn't know about rainbow brackets but that's lit
rugged creek
where is it
copper compass
settings -> plugins
clever raven
type plugins. go to browse repo
copper compass
These buttons are what you get for the material theme plugin
that'll let you configure it
install icons and such
for some reason my screenshot keybinding does nothing when I have a menu open, but yeah
it's in there
rugged creek
ok
i got it
i think
still can't select it
oh
restart
yes, of course
ok what the hell
this is not what i installed
how do I get this
copper compass
I told you
uncut oxide
You click on the icon that has 2 circles within each other
copper compass
click the toolbar buttons
uncut oxide
this one
rugged creek
harha
yes
wait
is this it
yes
harha
i have achieved holiness
now i want more power
now i want
RAINBOW BRACKETS
hushed orbit
Where do i change colors exactly?
hushed orbit
Oh, i thought it was part of the Material plugin
Wow, ok. I can use a color picker from pycharm on my vsc. Perfection 
copper compass
:>
rugged creek
what if you have 6 brackets
hushed orbit
Where do I set line number color, and the color of open files? I've managed to change most other colors by now
copper compass
Search for 'em
hushed orbit
I tried, that's where i got most other pallets
Welp, line number was not there last time i tried.
copper compass
It's great, isn't it? :P
hushed orbit
Well, actually. I found line number. But I am not allowed to check background color for it?
copper compass
hm, not sure about that
hushed orbit
Might have to swap colors around then.. right now all bg colors just blend together
except project tree
upbeat temple
rainbow brackets are beautiful!
barren iron
^^^^^^
spiral pendant
how do i get pycharm to actually update my files on git
ive tried commit and push and neither seems to update the repo
uncut oxide
Push should, well, push, the files to your upstream repository (aka the thing you see on github)
spiral pendant
Weird, push worked that time
plush tree
Dropping this here. Lets you use your Python code for IOS, Android, Windows, OSX, Web Apps, etc.
dense mist
hi guys, why might something install as an egg with python setup.py develop
instead of just linking to a packages directory?
crystal depot
@barren iron do you use a custom theme or something else. I love the look of yours
barren iron
@crystal depot it is @mint briar s deadly combo
Ayu dark theme with Fira code
Them rainbow brackets
It looks deadlyyyy
crystal depot
cool iโll look up ayu dark mode
barren iron
Does this mean I can use my scale way server as a full OpenVPN host?
(taken from the scaleway info page)
heavy knot
is Atom good for python?
lapis hazel
atom is good as an editor, but it uses electron so it'll probably use a lot of memory
i find that VSCode and sublime 3 are recommended more than atom
vscode is getting more python features, but sublime is simpler but is still very useful
vague silo
hey @heavy knot, welcome to our server!
we actually have a section in our FAQ for this that thematizes this, and and accompanying resources page for editors: https://pythondiscord.com/info/resources#editors
imo there is no "good" or "bad", just use what you're happy with, what's important is that you have the tooling to run python code and if you're using a text editor then you most likely already have that in another place
heavy knot
hi
digital stream
@delicate gorge You were saying ...
delicate gorge
first of all neovim has ofc integration for basically all languages implementing its protocol
so its a lot easier to make plugins for it
=> more plugins for neovim exist + neovim is backwards compatible with all vim plugins i tried
delicate gorge
then ofc
there is async
but
thats plugin related again
tbh its mostly plugin related
if you are working without plugins they are pretty equal
brazen cedar
delicate gorge
New pycharm out bringing pipenv integration to us folks
vague silo
nice
copper compass
Oh, nice
plush tree
Well I'm no science rocket, but it looks like Intellisense can't find that module
dense mist
hey guys, i'm having a little trouble using git rebase
i'm trying to rebase to master, but any possible chain of commands I can think of I get fatal: needed a single revision
sinful zinc
what specific commands are you trying
dense mist
git rebase origin, git rebase origin master, git rebase (ticketname)
sinful zinc
git rebase origin/master
though is that really the error you're getting with the ticket name (tag?)
dense mist
i think I might be doing something pretty dumb - origin refers to the specific name of my checkout branch right?
sinful zinc
origin is the name of the remote repository
dense mist
my branch name is tickets/number
sinful zinc
i.e. github or whatever you cloned from
dense mist
wait
when i git rebase origin/master, do I use "ticket/number" as origin
or literally the word origin
dense mist
git status
On branch tickets/DM-15004
Your branch is up to date with 'origin/tickets/DM-15004'.
sinful zinc
if not you need to explain your situation more clearly
dense mist
git rebase origin/master
fatal: Needed a single revision
invalid upstream 'origin/master'
sinful zinc
is there a master branch?
sinful zinc
git log --all --decorate --oneline --graph, do you see origin/master etc?
git show-ref - do all lines begin with "refs/heads", "refs/remotes/origin", "refs/stash", "refs/tags" etc? sometimes weird errors from reference name come from accidentally having created a reference that's not in the proper namespace
is there a local master branch? if you do git checkout master and git pull what do you see
dense mist
lots of refs/tags/
sinful zinc
is refs/remotes/origin/master present
dense mist
is present