ot2-the-original-pubsta

[small pivot]

quick math fail?

[jovial island]

Hmm.. I wonder if you could make proof of work based appeals

[elfin vine]

I messed up between Swedish miles, kilometers and English miles

[jovial island]

Need to show you put enough efforts into the appeal message

[jovial island]

Wait, there are English and Swedish miles?

[small pivot]

this is why metric system was invented, yikes 😛

[elfin vine]

I don't understand this person, are they for or against this report?

[elfin vine]

A swedish mile ("mil") is 10 kilometers

That's the unit that was used in the paper, very common here in Sweden

[small pivot]

yesnt

[jovial island]

[small pivot]

thats a long mile

[jovial island]

Against, but his arguments are next level flawed

[small pivot]

i mean... i feel like some people could do with a bit more googling compared to the policies they enact..so.. uhm.. yeah

[hidden kernel]

https://twitter.com/ercwl/status/1456764395330154502?s=20
lol

Eric Wall (@ercwl)

I’m going back to tungsten twitter now

Twitter · Nov 5, 2021, 11:24 PM

[odd sphinx]

am i trippin or is that infinite tabs

[echo fern]

yeah, firefox mobile starts showing infinity when you exceed, like, 100 tabs

[dusky cliff]

yeah

[echo fern]

pathetic, really

[dusky cliff]

well

[echo fern]

i want to know how many hundred I have

[dusky cliff]

sane people tend to keep it under 10

i have 7 open tabs 😎

[tribal tinsel]

Yes

[odd sphinx]

bruh

lol

that is funny

[odd sphinx]

if u have more than a 100 tabs on ur phone u dont need to know the exact number

[tribal tinsel]

Hm... Counted mine. 226

But scrolling through tab view, I found some i can close for sure, even without looking

[jovial island]

I have 14 in mine, but most of them are tab groups

I just counted 140 tabs

So not too sane of a person

[daring jay]

I always have <= 3 tabs, I'm weird about it

*on mobile

[jovial island]

Yeah, mine's also on mobile

[carmine herald]

do u get infinite power from infinite tabs?

[median blade]

🙏 tab groups are pog

[ornate scroll]

usually i have at mos t20

but thats only for projects for school which require a lot of googling

on average i usuually have 5-6

rn i have 3 (one of which i just xed out i never needed it)

[snow forum]

[clever salmon]

:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @jovial island until <t:1636219104:f> (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: mentions rule: sent 6 mentions in 10s).

[jovial island]

Yeah

[jovial island]

anyone wants to help

not related to ciding

coding

[jovial island]

@jovial islandWassup?

[jovial island]

@minor wedge you can look at the source of it to see what it does

[halcyon coyote]

Can someone please help me I tried every channel 😢

[hollow heart]

see #❓｜how-to-get-help to claim a specific channel just for you 🙃

[halcyon coyote]

Thank you , hopefully someone answers soon I've been stuck for nearly 4 hours now :(

[hollow heart]

which channel is yours?

[clever salmon]

:ok_hand: applied mute to @buoyant hawk until <t:1636246700:f> (9 minutes and 58 seconds) (reason: newlines rule: sent 22 consecutive newlines in 10s).

[magic atlas]

!unmute 765506588474867753

[clever salmon]

:ok_hand: pardoned infraction mute for @buoyant hawk.

[magic atlas]

Don't deliberately trip the spam-filter please @buoyant hawk

[buoyant hawk]

I was seeing if it muted me

[magic atlas]

Ah, well there you go 😄

[buoyant hawk]

Yep

I did it in this channel because no discussion going on

[magic atlas]

👍

[hollow heart]

maybe you need a lot of xp to get to wizard level

[jade bolt]

nah they just casted a magic on themselves to make themselves look old

ah i didn't watch that show

not avaliable in my region ig

[carmine herald]

no you just need to be 30

[lusty brook]

man are terminals pretty :)

also windows is a less terrible os than I remember 😄

[hollow heart]

pretty pretty

[lusty brook]

although my touchpad has the weirdest acceleration curve I've ever used 🤔

[hazy laurel]

do I smell Rich

[lusty brook]

bien oui!

[hazy laurel]

lol I love Rich

[lusty brook]

I'm sorry, I can speak some french and therefore I have to use it sometimes as it's so fun to do so

[hazy laurel]

wait

rich is in your name 👀

[lusty brook]

haha c'est vrai

honestly now back on windows I do miss it surprisingly enough

the shell experience is less good than linux IMO but ignoring that it's pretty damn good

[hazy laurel]

only thing I miss is software support

other than that, totally fine sticking to openSUSE for the rest of my days

[lusty brook]

eh I rarely game so that wasn't really an issue when I moved to ubuntu

[hazy laurel]

yeah games is the big thing, for me

[lusty brook]

it's such an awesome library, soo pretttttyyyy

[hazy laurel]

I like using the rich handler for logging

and the traceback handler too

[lusty brook]

oh yeah it's so the traceback handler

although I just use the console object instead

I've never really liked logging

I like logging style output but not the logging API

[hazy laurel]

I don't think I know what this means \🤔

[hazy laurel]

I've never done much more than just logger.debug() and stuff lol

[lusty brook]

sorry you've discovered my magical ability to forgot to write certain words

I mean "oh yeah it's so nice the traceback handler"

[hazy laurel]

oh lol

[lusty brook]

I honestly have no idea why I just forget to write certain words, I used to not to do it 😕

[hazy laurel]

I do it all the time

[lusty brook]

I originally thought having your style inline would be a downgrade when I switched from click's output utilities

and while sometimes I do wish I could do bold=True in general the inline styles are way nicer to work with

[hazy laurel]

Can't you kind of do that?

style="bold" or something

[lusty brook]

off-topic, but who decided that integrating gitlens into the source version control panel was a good idea

[lusty brook]

yeah but it's not as convenient as I usually have a boolean variable when I find myself in such situations

[hazy laurel]

I think there's another way to set the default style for a while

idk lol

[lusty brook]

probably, I'm still rather new to rich

[hazy laurel]

Admittedly, I've not used it in a while

no interesting projects that need to be pretty

[lusty brook]

I should probably look into setting up custom styles

[lusty brook]

that's a real shame 😔

[hazy laurel]

the highlighters seem cool

[lusty brook]

https://rich.readthedocs.io/en/latest/style.html#style-themes

btw how much overhead does rich have?

[hazy laurel]

I doubt it's much

it's glorified string formatting, with some regex

[lusty brook]

Yeah in most instances probably very little, I've just noticed diff-shades (the program I showed above) a multi-core program suffering a 5-12% performance drop in verbose mode

to be fair it's very chatty in verbose mode

[hazy laurel]

I figure the most performance intensive things are the handlers

handlers? highlighters

[wide totem]

from #black-formatter message
@lusty brook cc tone indicators

i would like to see more of the / in general

its a cool concept

in some cases, people need to use it more

but in other cases, i think they're overused

and yes, I say this as a neurodivergent person

eg /half-serious or things like, where they aren't widespread to use yet

[lusty brook]

yeah one day I'll be getting an OTN along the lines of #off-topic-richard-in-black-fmt 😄 /hj

[wide totem]

dude that's what i initially used the channel for

it was basically offtopic of black users

[hazy laurel]

jeez

I was confused for a second

[wide totem]

i'm not kidding, either

[hazy laurel]

"black users"

lol

[wide totem]

!pypi black

[clever salmon]

black v21.10b0

The uncompromising code formatter.

[wide totem]

also #black-formatter

[hazy laurel]

yes, I understand now

[wide totem]

for context lol

[lusty brook]

I agree! they're so useful even as (edit: a | case in point ahhhhhhhh) neurotypical as I misread / write poorly thought-out messages constantly

[wide totem]

if someone misunderstood in the moment, i don't want someone to misunderstand it later 😛

[wide totem]

such a mood

there's one server that takes everything i say as passive agressive, when its supposed to be a kind of support server/school club

[lusty brook]

d'aw that sucks :( /g

[wide totem]

smh i asked a clarifiying question its not my fault you said you took your girl to the vet and only by the end of the message i realised it was a dog.

[lusty brook]

actually one question I've had about tone indicators is whether using a full emotion / tone word is acceptable

[wide totem]

IMO yes

and i do that

[lusty brook]

I've used /joke before but I got quickly corrected to use /j

[wide totem]

i mean, if its common, no IMO

oh yeah, some times i actually have used html tags

[lusty brook]

<rant type="minor">me too</rant>

[wide totem]

uh, before i get to that, some times i use /hsrs or /halfserious so i'd just use the full words

[wide totem]

that is actually what i use them for
although I typically just do

<rant>
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
</rant>

[hazy laurel]

<rant /> fuck

[wide totem]

and often the first tag gets edited in after I realise I've written a rant

[lusty brook]

$insert-aggravating-topic

[wide totem]

i am a person of lpn

least punctuation necessary

eg

[lusty brook]

what's funny is how different "fuck" and "oh no" hit

[wide totem]

i actually think oh no hits harder

[lusty brook]

(btw I typically avoid using the word fuck)

I do have an OTN fwiw

[wide totem]

ugh something happened today and it had to do with cw badcode ||isort breaking coveragepy|| and now i did some oopsie and doopsie and reinstalled it yay

Note: this is an example and not serious

lpn

least punctuation necessary

[wide totem]

ooh, don't spoil it lol

[lusty brook]

I used to write in a really formal style but as time has passed it has deteriorated

[wide totem]

yeah i recall that.

[lusty brook]

I still use punctuation but I'm wayy more lax about capitalization

[wide totem]

oh lmao

you can tell when i'm on pc or mobile

mobile has no typos and great caps

okay that's uh, not true

mobile will sometimes screw up my messages so bad i just send them anyways

mobile either has no typos or insanely bad typos ^^

[wide totem]

can't fucking relate

[lusty brook]

awesome! /lh

[wide totem]

i swear way too fucking much

:)

[lusty brook]

man I love #duck-pond far too much

[wide totem]

but so far never pushed a commit with a swear word in it in anywhere to anywhere

i think

there may have been one

[lusty brook]

i feel like that's a lie.

[wide totem]

but that would have been to a branch and fork of my own project that was because fucking github actions

although

i have now taken a liking to yaml

so uh

yeah

[wide totem]

it may be

[lusty brook]

yaml would be nice if there weren't a million ways to do any one thing

[wide totem]

I think the worst way

ooooh lol

[lusty brook]

also the fact 3.10 == 3.1 bothers me way more than it should

[wide totem]

the worst english I've commited so far is a comment that was just

# message deletion events are messed up
above 3 defined dictionaries

that was it. that was the whole comment.

[lusty brook]

well HAVE FUN FIGURING WHAT'S MESSED UP 😤

[wide totem]

its more accurate now

        # message deletion events are messed up, so we have to use these sets
        # to track if we deleted a message, and if we have already relayed it or not.
        # these lists hold the ids of deleted messages that have
        # been acted on before a on_msg_delete event is received

#FuckDiscord

[hazy laurel]

nx?

[lusty brook]

I am learning so many new tone indicators today

[wide totem]

don't worry about it

[hazy laurel]

.-.

wtf

wasn't expecting that

[lusty brook]

d'oh

[wide totem]

lmao

i feel like including that made it actually the opposite

[hazy laurel]

yes.

[wide totem]

removed it

[lusty brook]

yeaa...

[wide totem]

and deleted the definition smh

y'all have dirty minds i just wanted to use the tone indicators smh

[lusty brook]

!otn add add-sexy-wrong-assumptions

[hazy laurel]

I wouldn't never guessed

[wide totem]

i love how assumptions was mispelled

[lusty brook]

f.warn 717983911824588862 we don't talk about that

[wide totem]

LOL

[lusty brook]

(that's my bot's prefix fyi)

[wide totem]

figured it was

[hazy laurel]

banned for self-bot

[lusty brook]

you better know what it stands for

[wide totem]

fuckblack?

[hazy laurel]

f...un

[lusty brook]

no.

also try guessing my bot's name

[hazy laurel]

friendship

[lusty brook]

also no.

[wide totem]

Flower?

DayLilly?

[hazy laurel]

dang. what did I miss

[lusty brook]

mhmm

[wide totem]

i searched your history lmao

[lusty brook]

well close

daylily

there's only one l in lily

[wide totem]

i had remembered you sending screenshots of your bot in #dev-contrib

[hazy laurel]

lily was a little girl

[wide totem]

but i couldn't remember the username for like, 15 seconds ;-;

[lusty brook]

in her own castle world ... 🎵

[wide totem]

oh are you ready for the bot logging to be really weird for an hour?

[lusty brook]

no I should be asleep by now honestly.

[wide totem]

oh wait nvm it doesn't use EST

nvm

i should modify my bot to use UTC only as well... hmmm

[hazy laurel]

close enough \😩

[wide totem]

too bad

[lusty brook]

alan walker?

[wide totem]

what timezone are you in again?

[hazy laurel]

yep

[lusty brook]

utc-4

[wide totem]

i have a stomach ache, a sore throat, a stuffy nose, and I think im gonna go have a bunch of milk now because i like pain

[hazy laurel]

uh oh

[lusty brook]

:>

[wide totem]

no tone indicator because imma leave you guessing if im serious or not about liking pain

[lusty brook]

i view it as /s

[hazy laurel]

definitely serious

/s for /serious \😩

[wide totem]

but then again, i don't read documentation until i've done it the hard way first so.... take that as you will

[lusty brook]

no. /srs

[wide totem]

its probably /s and /srs

[hazy laurel]

\:weary: is my own personal tone indicator \😩

I end up typing it everywhere :faint:

[wide totem]

ok

got my pain

i mean icecream

night @lusty brook

[dim root]

sorry offtopic but @wide totem look at this

metadata description included in the auto generated config

the problem is atoml/pyyyaml don't support comments, so i need to manipulate the config using regex

[wide totem]

atoml does support comments

[dim root]

i looked into ruanamel.yaml but it just didn't work and was talking too much time

it does 👀

[wide totem]

as of version 1.0 atoml is a fork of tomlkit which is a style preserving toml parser

however, it comes at huge speed costs

i would only use atoml if you're editing user's files and need to keep the style the same

[dim root]

welp, this is fast and sure though, so I shouldn't worry

[wide totem]

its pretty noticiable on larger toml files

eg modmail's poetry lock takes 12 seconds to be parsed by tomlkit/atoml

tomli takes 0.25 seconds ;-;

[dim root]

uhh isn;t it frostming/atoml

[wide totem]

!pypi atoml

[clever salmon]

atoml v1.1.0

Yet another style preserving TOML library

[wide totem]

ye

[dim root]

https://github.com/frostming/atoml/blob/a136f13432dba84702875e93006ad3a7a2dca691/tests/test_build.py#L11

[clever salmon]

tests/test_build.py line 11

doc.add(comment("This is a TOML document. Boom."))```

[dim root]

ok yeah

it does support

[wide totem]

it's part of the tomlkit requirements

since poetry modifies pyproject.toml to add dependencies

it can't be a culprit of removing the comments that a user added!

however, if not needing comments, and style, eg an automatically generated file, tomli and tomli_w are very much worth it

[dim root]

ah 👍

[wide totem]

!pypi tomli_w

[clever salmon]

tomli-w v0.4.0

A lil' TOML writer

[dim root]

should we add this to modmail?

the metadata description comments

[wide totem]

discord-modmail/modmail#75 rewrites the configuration system

[rustic harbor]

GitHub

feat/improve configuration

[wide totem]

although, you have given me some ideas for it, hmmmm

[dim root]

currently I make use of eval for the metadata generation, need to figure out a better way

[wide totem]

💀

[wide totem]

@dim roottldr the configuration system i have works in reverse.
everything is stored in the code itself. I realise now that isn't terribly the best, but i wanted it all in one place at the time

[jovial island]

SO PROUD!!!

I MADE A SLASH COMMAND

I BEAT THE PYTHON ERROR!!!!

[echo flower]

what's bat?

[echo flower]

what error?

[hazy laurel]

https://github.com/sharkdp/bat

[median blade]

bat is pog

[fluid plank]

yes

and the creator is a shark

;)

[hazy laurel]

lol

love bat

makes for a great man pager too

[wicked hollow]

Does it conbatenate?

[wide totem]

ugh

this

i now have an unexplainable error

https://github.com/discord-modmail/modmail/runs/4129387779?check_suite_focus=true#step:8:49

this line

gets removed on github, but not locally

[wicked hollow]

Different versions of the module being used for toml writing, maybe?

[wide totem]

should be the same....

unless the cache wasn't updated and it was

nope didn't hit the cache

well, did hit the other cache ig

would you believe i had to write the diff function right now just for debugging purposes ;-;

[wide totem]

I don't think so, it is using a poetry lock file after all

[wide totem]

lol

[jovial island]

I mean the error where you can't use slash commands for no reason. The module must have been made in a different way or version.

Anyway, I found a new module!

[jovial island]

lamo

[jovial island]

ur using dc in bright mode?

[shrewd lance]

Flashbang edition

[dim root]

I am making a twitter TUI client, aiming it to be a drop-in replacement for the web version, it would mostly be using textual and tweepy. If someone is interested in helping out... Lemme know.

[weary elk]

light mode bad

eww

[pliant trench]

bruh

[jovial island]

I use light mode

It's quite soothing

Your eyes, hurt but the embeds and everything look kinda organized.

bruh fine

I turned on dark mode

[fluid plank]

nice

i like it

come join me into the light boi

[carmine herald]

this is cursed

[pliant trench]

as f

[slow valve]

my eyes

[odd sphinx]

your eyes

[frosty blaze]

ah shit im blind now

[slow valve]

our eyes

[frosty blaze]

russian anthem playin

your eyes

your grey liquid

[jovial island]

can i see what embeds look like ?

[proper python]

oh i hate that 🤢

[mental idol]

I love this site's UI. Tell me I should be writing without telling me I should be writing.

[daring jay]

NaNoWriMo?

[mental idol]

The graph dips back to 0 each day instead of being a day behind.

Yup

[daring jay]

That's weird, but does it work?

[mental idol]

I look at it and my brain goes "Oh no, that needs to be fixed"

It's also the only visual reminder of "have you written today?" on the dashboard.

Oh.. no, other than this

Weird... my brain attaches to the graph far more heavily than the big 0

[daring jay]

24620 🥴 that's a lot

[mental idol]

It was so hard not to force another 380 words last night to be at the mid-way point.

But nothing forced ever fits well, in my experience, so I stopped when the scene felt concluded.

[wide totem]

why am i about to write this

;-;

[tepid oak]

Hi, Does someone have a headphone recommendation to online meetings?

[tribal tinsel]

anything, really. anything can get you through a call, it's not like you need some special quality like you do with music

[hollow heart]

o i want recs too, ive not been happy with anything

[slate leaf]

We have a coffee gulag?

[vague shadow]

Yes, by @copper tartan's rule you're only allowed to enjoy coffee once a month with a dessert

[slate leaf]

What the fuck?!

[copper tartan]

except on leap years

then it's nonce a year

[slate leaf]

I feel like the Geneva Conventions prevent this

[hidden kernel]

how are you supposed to form your addiction then..?

[mental idol]

This actually summarizes my experiences with Twitter's dev docs quite accurately. I'm either in-and-out with the info I need or left physically angry that they made me read multiple pages of fluff and still didn't provide the answer

At first I was curious why the angy face and not a confused face... now I know.

[wide totem]

I just realised that over a period of time, healthcare will become more in demand as success rates increase because the hereditary traits that ended up causing the need will be passed down

Survival of the fittest no more

[wicked hollow]

This effect will not be as strong as you might think. Most health care is provided to people who are middle aged or older, and most children are born to parents who are below that age, so the genes will have been passed on regardless of health care success rates.

Vaccines and sanitation have likely made much more impact on who survives to breed than any recent health care breakthroughs.

[echo fern]

that's a good point

[wide totem]

eh, i guess i speak as someone who's had cancer twice, a transplant, and several other things so I'm a little bit biased

[wicked hollow]

Maybe adopt 😄

[wide totem]

actually I don't have a choice if i want kids /shrug

[wicked hollow]

The effect you point to is definitely real - but we've been removing selection pressures for a long time

[echo fern]

not that there aren't other terrifying patterns in this venue - like, say, that there seems to be a weak but statistically significant negative correlation between intelligence and number of (surviving) children, which should result in a selection pressure against intelligence

[wide totem]

yeah...

[wicked hollow]

Hm. You're missing some major positives, though. Better nutrition and the removal of lead from environments where children spend time has greatly increased average intelligence

[wide totem]

removal of lead
response: flint michigan

[wicked hollow]

Ok, but remember that 100 years ago, most places had lead pipes. We're getting better.

[echo fern]

Even if both of these effects exist, the former is still worth worrying about, because the latter is inherently limited - there's only so much you can improve conditions, after all

[wicked hollow]

Hell, the Romans used lead as a sweetener.

[wicked hollow]

a) I'm not sure that's true, given that we're constantly figuring out new things about what conditions are better, and b) that's assuming the impacts are on the same order of magnitude, when there's no reason to believe they are. Studies of intelligence that I've seen show a steady uptick over time since we began measuring IQ

[wide totem]

true...

[wide totem]

but we also aren't making conditions that much better

[wicked hollow]

We are. Lead pipes weren't the biggest source of lead exposure, lead paint and leaded gasoline were.

We've made massive, gigantic strides towards removing a source of brain damage that all children were being exposed to.

At least 50% of intelligence is attributed to environmental factors rather than genetic ones, and we've made very large strides towards improving some of those factors for all children

[dusky cliff]

Maybe it's the other way round too
genes that might have helped prevent diseases happening to older people don't get selectively passed down since they don't come in useful before the reproductive age and consequently these are the diseases requiring more healthcare

[wicked hollow]

Yep. Selection pressures don't really apply past breeding age, whether for helpful or harmful traits.

And further complicating things: one trait can be both helpful and harmful. The trait that causes sickle cell anemia is selected for because it helps prevent death by malaria.

[dusky cliff]

dang

[junior moat]

removing selection pressures is a positive thing for humanity as a whole anyway. more gene variety means greater chances of some subset of humanity surviving should new, unremovable selection pressures arrive

[wicked hollow]

That's a good point.

[foggy flicker]

@odd sphinx you broke the chain in #ot1-this-regex-is-impossible

change your nick to hspv5

nice

[dim root]

ping

[carmine herald]

nah social darwinism is a meme

[autumn hornet]

Not really

[buoyant hawk]

@unreal sigil sorry for the ping, but good luck for your exams

[jovial island]

@tight stag actually I can reproduce it.

(and obviously updating settings.json as suggested fixes it)

but that's definitely a bug with code runner, and a pretty awkward one at that

I bet it's writing the output to file before displaying it, and that's causing python to use the system default's encoding, which may be cp1252

[rare moat]

@grand pollen because, C is a much smaller language than C++, and is often faster than it because of its smaller size.

[grand pollen]

nice

is it as hard as java

[wicked bramble]

Oo

[rare moat]

C++ is great, do not get me wrong, but i would be lying if i said C++ was not a massive language.

[rare moat]

difficulty is subjective.

i find C incredibly simple most of the time.

[wicked bramble]

I tried to learn input in java after a while i quited

[rare moat]

both in complexity and language features.

i do most of my coding in C, and i am coding in C right now.

[wicked bramble]

I am dumb so i will learn c now instead of c++

[rare moat]

and i am kind of this server's resident C programmer, so.

[rare moat]

C does a lot less for you than C++.

[wicked bramble]

Oh

Now i will learn c++

Lol

[rare moat]

i do not see how that makes you dumb though.

[wicked bramble]

No i mean that i cant learn something for a long time

[grand pollen]

practicing makes everything easy

[languid osprey]

C is nice

[grand pollen]

maybe i'll learn c for fun

[rare moat]

you heard it here first, from the Rust programmer.

[grand pollen]

but i need to finish js

[languid osprey]

Lmao

[wicked bramble]

Console.log

Why ppl say js dont make sense

[grand pollen]

what is Rust useful for it look pretty intersting

[wicked bramble]

I found js cool

[rare moat]

struct CtVector3 ct_vector3_scale(struct CtVector3 vector, double scalar) {
    struct CtVector3 new_vector;

    new_vector.vec_x = vector.vec_x * scalar;
    new_vector.vec_y = vector.vec_y * scalar;
    new_vector.vec_z = vector.vec_z * scalar;

    return new_vector;
}

double ct_vector3_magnitude(struct CtVector3 vector) {
    return sqrt(pow(vector.vec_x, 2) +
                pow(vector.vec_y, 2) +
                pow(vector.vec_z, 2));
}

struct CtVector3 ct_vector3_unit(struct CtVector3 vector) {
    double vector_magnitude = ct_vector3_magnitude(vector);

    return ct_vector3_divide(vector, ct_vector3_init(vector_magnitude,
                                                     vector_magnitude,
                                                     vector_magnitude));
}

[languid osprey]

Web dev, systems dev

[rare moat]

Rust is a systems programming language. it is much, much safer than C.

[languid osprey]

Concurrent programming

[wicked bramble]

What is rust used for

[grand pollen]

whats the best language for backend webdev

[languid osprey]

Depends

[rare moat]

Rust also actually has a type system instead of the shit show that is C's type system.

[languid osprey]

I wouldnt say there's a best

[grand pollen]

i use python for backend rn

[languid osprey]

Sure, python is great

[rare moat]

i beg to differ

[grand pollen]

is there any language i should look forward to

[wicked bramble]

Django is complicated i dont undeestand anything

*understand

[languid osprey]

Rust and C are good learns

[wicked bramble]

Brainfuck

[languid osprey]

Django does have a learning curve, yes

[wicked bramble]

And then i lack in motivation

And leaves my project

[grand pollen]

work on small projects

[wicked bramble]

Uh

I said i am dumb i need someone to slap my as* to get work done

[grand pollen]

if u lose motivation really fast then coding is not your thing lol

[rare moat]

not necessarily

[wicked bramble]

Maybe

[rare moat]

it could just mean that what you are doing with coding does not interest you.

speaking from experience.

[wicked bramble]

I just compare myself to other and thats a big problem

[grand pollen]

yes exactly work on stuff you like

[grand pollen]

well u need to learn focusing on ur self

[wicked bramble]

It intrest me but after then i find more stuff cool

[rare moat]

i was talking to HERO.

[wicked bramble]

Hmm... Yes

[languid osprey]

No

[wicked bramble]

Oops

[grand pollen]

oh

[languid osprey]

I've lost motivation on quite a few of my projects

[grand pollen]

yes but if someone lose interest a lot in general thats a problem

[wicked bramble]

Dont ww3

[grand pollen]

?

[wicked bramble]

Nothing

Though at what age did u start programming

[languid osprey]

Not really

[rare moat]

Aboo is a professional

he knows what he is talking about. all Rust users suffer from chronic demotivation.

it is just a fact of life.

[sinful sun]

Hello?

[odd sphinx]

hi

[wheat rock]

mariosis searching for signal since 1969

[languid osprey]

Hm

[rare moat]

Hm

[languid osprey]

Perhaps

[rare moat]

Perhaps

[carmine herald]

hm

[sinful sun]

Is it me you're looking for?

Just put down an offer for a flat, these bitches surprised me with an extra 200£ bills

Can we eat landlords yet

[languid osprey]

Can we what

[sinful sun]

aboo are you struggling with the concept of eating fat landlord pigs

I guess youre right youre not supposed to eat that much fat

This landlord im talking to wants me to pay £1800 for a 1 bedroom apartment

Heck no, what the fuck

[proper python]

God damn it past me

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/902535319847583804/905896745387585566/5ABF7D1F-6F4B-415C-9D8C-B4DA61025C45_4_5005_c.jpeg

[languid osprey]

Perhaps

[languid osprey]

Tf

[carmine herald]

me breaking diet 😩

dude sometimes i find a costco pizza and eat like 7 slices

or 3 burgers

or like 5 kfc chicken pieces 😩

and christmas is coming soon rip

[languid osprey]

Costco pizza is fantastic

[mental idol]

@classmethod
    def build_obj(cls, obj: Dict[str, Any]) -> "Tweet":
        """Builds object from dictionary"""
        tweet = cls()
        tweet.id = obj["id"]
        tweet.text = obj["text"]
        tweet.created_at = obj.get("created_at")
        tweet.author_id = obj.get("author_id")
        tweet.conversation_id = obj.get("conversation_id")
        tweet.in_reply_to_user_id = obj.get("in_reply_to_user_id")
        tweet.possibly_sensitive = obj.get("possibly_sensitive")
        tweet.lang = obj.get("lang")
        tweet.reply_settings = obj.get("replay_settings")
        tweet.source = obj.get("source")
        tweet.errors = obj.get("errors")
        tweet.referenced_tweets = (
            [ReferencedTweets.build_obj(rt) for rt in obj.get("referenced_tweets")]
            if obj.get("referenced_tweets")
            else None
        )
        tweet.attachments = Attachments.from_obj(obj.get("attachments"))
        tweet.geo = Geo.from_obj(obj.get("geo"))
        tweet.context_annotations = ContextAnnotations.from_obj(
            obj.get("context_annotations")
        )
        tweet.entities = Entities.from_obj(obj.get("entities"))
        tweet.withheld = Withheld.from_obj(obj.get("withheld"))
        tweet.public_metrics = PublicMetrics.from_obj(obj.get("public_metrics"))
        tweet.non_public_metrics = NonPublicMetrics.from_obj(
            obj.get("non_public_metrics")
        )
        tweet.organic_metrics = OrganicMetrics.from_obj(obj.get("organic_metrics"))
        tweet.promoted_metrics = PromotedMetrics.from_obj(obj.get("promoted_metrics"))
        tweet.includes = Includes.from_obj(obj.get("includes"))
        tweet.meta = Meta.from_obj(obj.get("meta"))
        return tweet

[ionic locust]

Ah, the joys of complex APIs

[hollow heart]

@flint hull #❓｜how-to-get-help

[mental idol]

If I can get half of this object completely mapped before dinner I'll be happy.

dinner immediately arrives
....

[tribal tinsel]

aren't there already existing twitter api wrappers around?

[ionic locust]

But not Preocts\™ twitter APIs 🍏

[mental idol]

Totes. Twitter even has "official" python wrappers open source.

[jovial island]

@latent oxide update: I didn't finish before midnight lmao

[junior pike]

@chilly pawn nice username 🙂

[placid charm]

hahaha

[mental idol]

Changes to be committed:
  (use "git restore --staged <file>..." to unstage)
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/__init__.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/__init__.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/annotations.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/attachments.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/cashtags.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/context_annotations.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/coordinates.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/domain.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/entities.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/entity.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/geo.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/hashtags.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/includes.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/mentions.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/meta.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/non_public_metrics.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/organic_metrics.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/promoted_metrics.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/public_metrics.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/referenced_tweets.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/tweet.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/urls.py
        new file:   twitterapiv2/model/tweet/withheld.py

23 files changed, 485 insertions(+)

That was thought provoking.

[dusky cliff]

atomic commits 👍

[mental idol]

Yup, nothing small about that commit hash

[mental idol]

Hmm... refactor goes brrr

I feel like I could push this idea further but I think I'd be recreating dataclasses to a degree.
https://github.com/Preocts/twwordmap/commit/eeeaf494f65c6039d9160af782bc8d57e69e6a3a#diff-889093439c07e7da16044538b0bb4034afc352e0968fc317bbb64387464f24cc

[median blade]

neater

[mental idol]

Okay I've been supposed to be writing for NaNoWriMo for the last two hours.... time to do that.

[mental idol]

Such as:

• Pull the class attributes
• Determine if they are a nested object (how?)
• Determine if they are an array or an array of an object (how?)
• Assume their name is the key in the incoming dict/json data
• iterate over them taking the actions needed
• nested objects would need to inherit/have the same method (interface?)
• all this just for a model that is already written feels overkill (fun)

[radiant socket]

make a branch and put that in separate commits lol

[jovial island]

Editor design:

print("Hello world")|

The | is the text cursor

And the quote is the embed!

lmao

[latent oxide]

Neither did we

[hexed iris]

Interesting.

[keen burrow]

it was a short night, wasn't it

[fluid plank]

@limber pollen did you natively compile your emacs?

[limber pollen]

Yes

I recompile every 2 weeks to pull in changes

[steel eagle]

Well your power level is massive

[fluid plank]

🤔 i guess i have to do it later in the weekend then

[earnest grail]

Break a leg

[tribal tinsel]

Looks like my commit history...

[latent oxide]

mhm kind of. I had worse though, I am not really good with keeping up a good sleep schedule

[keen burrow]

how long has been your sleep?

bleh, english

[carmine herald]

imagine having a good sleep schedule instead of waking up at 2 am every day because your country is dumb and hates you

[tribal tinsel]

I go to sleep at 2am, then have problems falling asleep for at least an hour...

[latent oxide]

somthing like 6:45

I think my average sleep, excluding weekends is around 7 hours

[keen burrow]

7h is fiiiine

We got like 5h

[fluid plank]

whats sleep

[echo flower]

whats life

[slate leaf]

A terminal, self-replicating STD

[dusky cliff]

wait a minute

[slate leaf]

lol

[jade bolt]

food

[echo flower]

#TechnicallyCorrect

[jade bolt]

@echo flower how about mine

[echo flower]

i didnt comment because it was too close to the truth

[jade bolt]

[sterile nymph]

I didn't knew that fuck this country then

[sinful sun]

What

[fresh reef]

i sent a message to the wrong oft

[queen plover]

!resources

[clever salmon]

Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

https://pythondiscord.com/resources

[spiral ember]

whoa who's vivek and why does he want my kidneys?!

[worldly harness]

steak bot :p

[daring jay]

vivek likes kidneys, duh

very, very, much

Does anyone else hate plagiarism checking software? I'm getting matches on my paper for websites I've never visited in my life.

[magic blade]

Sus channel

[sterile nymph]

what is sus?

[worldly harness]

I dont like them either, but I haven't had cases where it thinks I plagiarized websites I've never seen

(also my teachers applies them in submission but doesn't actually check them )

[carmine herald]

u

[sterile nymph]

sorry, what?

[daring jay]

Oh well, I suppose this isn't exactly hard of a match to make

It's someone's title, so fair enough

The other one is some student's paper, so I dunno what matched there.

[dim root]

which plagiarism checking tool?

[daring jay]

turnitin.com's

[hollow heart]

omg flashback

[somber belfry]

Hello, I'm Vivek.
Would you be interested in donating a kidney or two?

[worldly harness]

does it check for actual quote/references? I think it's legal to use someone's text if it's referenced in bibliography but not all plagiarism checkers can recognize it

[daring jay]

No idea

And like, neither of those are actually copies that do anything, regardless of whether I meant it or not, so it doesn't really matter.

But it's still kind of annoying

[carmine herald]

plagiarism is when u write a southamerican person's full name 😩

first name middle name father's last name mom's last name and then whatever other additions ppl think are necessary ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[visual isle]

hi
anyone really good at assembly language?

[wheat rock]

best vivek story

[sudden swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/got-my-new-kidney-scary-gif-14563863

take em

[somber belfry]

True

[dim root]

lol

[fluid plank]

mood

[full haven]

@frank lark soo

[frank lark]

Ok oreo is a copy of hydrox

[echo flower]

matpat?

[frank lark]

But worse quality

Wait i am finding the link

[full haven]

@wheat rock are you bad for health?

• are you copy of hydrox?

[wheat rock]

why will you eat me smh

[shrewd lance]

education bad

[wheat rock]

system bad

self taught >>>>>>

[full haven]

I was thinking are you bad for mental health but ok

[wheat rock]

lmao

read till example word @full haven

:superiority:

[full haven]

Ah I see Oreos are perfect

but after word example I think it's fake news

[frank lark]

https://youtu.be/Kc2DAJV12E8

Pretty sure this is the link

[full haven]

You are wrong, oreos are perfect.

[full haven]

it was proofed right here

[echo flower]

how did you not see matpat's video on this first

[frank lark]

I don't know

Also i have disabled my youtube

[full haven]

why

[wheat rock]

yes

i can literally cite the source of it being fake

[frank lark]

Uh bcz youtube has become too big of a distraction for my studies

[full haven]

Fake news are so bad

[frank lark]

This is not fake news

[full haven]

for me it's discord, currently I should be writing essay but I'm rather in discord

[frank lark]

Same here

[full haven]

well I have made 1/5 of essay in 40 minutes so not too bad

[frank lark]

Philosophically youtube and discord are just sources of dopamine

[echo flower]

that hit very close to home

[full haven]

Addicted to discord + coding at school == good (not really pls help)

[frank lark]

Heroine is also unnatural amount of dopamine

[echo flower]

so discord == diluted heroine

[frank lark]

This all fun and discord and youtube and facebook is just addiction loop, i have reached Enlightnment

[exotic hound]

hey, i'm confused between these two words, "expected" and "desired".
when to use it?

or just give an example

for variable name, which do you think is more suitable? expected_result or desired_result

[wheat rock]

expected sounds better

[exotic hound]

owh ok

[ionic locust]

“Expected” is for what you predict will happen but “desired” is for what you want to happen

Those aren’t always the same, even if the phrases are used relatively interchangeably

[dim root]

😋

[tribal tinsel]

Last pizza this year, probably. It was around 0 degrees Celsius outside when we started the fire in the oven

[carmine herald]

gib pizza
im god and require pizza offerings

I AM THE NYA GOD
gib pizza pls 🥺

[tribal tinsel]

There are no volunteers for red part, only one person. With hot peppers

[wide totem]

@small pivot what is pah?

[daring jay]

I think that was just expressing dislike. Like "bah"

[small pivot]

yeah, should be. what's the context?

[small pivot]

^ forgot to reply, just realized its a bit old

[wide totem]

you in akarys server, but you left so fast i couldn't ask

[small pivot]

ah!

i joined accidentally

[wide totem]

it was an accident! why do invites just go through pah

was wondering if pah was a different server or something 👀

[small pivot]

oh nah, just meant it like "ick" or "gosh"

[wide totem]

lmao

[tribal tinsel]

wait, Ak has a server? 👀

[wide totem]

yes, you're in it smh

[carmine herald]

pah!

[daring jay]

is that you

[carmine herald]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

its the minion i keep caged in my basement and use to record mp3 dont worry

or it might just be me -w-

[daring jay]

haha

[slate leaf]

!ot what does this command do

[clever salmon]

Off-topic channels

There are three off-topic channels:
• #ot0-fear-of-python
• #ot1-this-regex-is-impossible
• #ot2-the-original-pubsta

Their names change randomly every 24 hours, but you can always find them under the OFF-TOPIC/GENERAL category in the channel list.

Please read our off-topic etiquette before participating in conversations.

[mental idol]

Any thoughts on a cleaner / easier way to process this? Parameters represent the fields of a URL query string. They need to be translated into the field dict for urllib3 to use. This works, only defining fields that were provided in the parameters, but I can't help but feel there's a better way.

def search_recent(
        self,
        query: str,
        *,
        max_results: Optional[int] = None,
        next_token: Optional[str] = None,
        start_time: Optional[datetime] = None,
        end_time: Optional[datetime] = None,
        since_id: Optional[str] = None,
        until_id: Optional[str] = None,
        expansions: Optional[str] = None,
        media_fields: Optional[str] = None,
        place_fields: Optional[str] = None,
        poll_fields: Optional[str] = None,
        tweet_fields: Optional[str] = None,
        user_fields: Optional[str] = None,
    ) -> List[Tweet]:
        """Search tweets from up to the last seven days matching parameters"""
        fields: Dict[str, Any] = {"query": query}
        fields.update({"max_results": max_results} if max_results else {})
        fields.update({"next_token": next_token} if next_token else {})
        fields.update({"start_time": str(start_time)} if start_time else {})
        fields.update({"end_time": str(end_time)} if end_time else {})
        fields.update({"since_id": since_id} if since_id else {})
        fields.update({"until_id": until_id} if until_id else {})
        fields.update({"expansions": expansions} if expansions else {})
        fields.update({"media.fields": media_fields} if media_fields else {})
        fields.update({"place.fields": place_fields} if place_fields else {})
        fields.update({"poll.fields": poll_fields} if poll_fields else {})
        fields.update({"tweet.fields": tweet_fields} if tweet_fields else {})
        fields.update({"user.fields": user_fields} if user_fields else {})

[mental idol]

Hell ya!

We got searches and a working model

[fluid plank]

wat is that font

👀

[mental idol]

NovaMono

[fluid plank]

ah i see. sad. it looks good but i have to use JuliaMono

[mental idol]

It looks good! I might try it at work tomorrow.

[proper python]

yeah

[mental idol]

Got lost in the sauce and only have 2 hours to get my writing goal in

[dim root]

instead of None default it to {}? The typehint won't agree thogh

and just put them in fields like:

fields = {
  "max_results": max_results or {},
  ...
}

[dusky cliff]

defaulting to a mutable arg is risky

[mental idol]

It's not a bad thought. Chances are the api will handle an empty query parameter as a null. But then, some don't which is why I'd like to avoid having the field key at all if not provided. I think it might just be one of those "if you don't want to use **kwargs then you have to have a few lines of parsing the data.

[dim root]

Hmm, is there a list of supported fields? If yes, we can just use kwargs and defaultdict

I might use your lib for my project - twitter.tui which has no TUI as of now lol

[elfin vine]

Why can't you default it to an empty dictionary? You're not modifying the dictionary - the real modification happens on fields

Always late to the party smh

That said, why not just default it and clear the values that are None?

def clean_dict(mapping):
    return {k: v for k, v in mapping.items() if v is not None}

[jovial island]

Definitive Edition ™️

[elfin vine]

What do you call a part in an expression?

If I have 5 + 3 then what do you call 5 and 3?

[hazy laurel]

operands, perhaps?

[elfin vine]

Oh that's perfect!

[round moss]

@elfin vineterm may also be useful depending on context

[elfin vine]

Ah right for multiplication

[mental idol]

Oh I like this... See? Ya'll super good at this programming stuff.

[tawny moon]

boop

[ionic locust]

beep

[mental idol]

def search_recent(
self,
query: str,
*,
max_results: Optional[int] = None,
next_token: Optional[str] = None,
start_time: Optional[datetime] = None,
end_time: Optional[datetime] = None,
since_id: Optional[str] = None,
until_id: Optional[str] = None,
expansions: Optional[str] = None,
media_fields: Optional[str] = None,
place_fields: Optional[str] = None,
poll_fields: Optional[str] = None,
tweet_fields: Optional[str] = None,
user_fields: Optional[str] = None,
) -> Recent:
"""Search tweets from up to the last seven days matching parameters"""
fields = {
    "query": query,
    "max_results": max_results,
    "next_token": next_token,
    "start_time": str(start_time),
    "end_time": str(end_time),
    "since_id": since_id,
    "until_id": until_id,
    "expansions": expansions,
    "media.fields": media_fields,
    "place.fields": place_fields,
    "poll.fields": poll_fields,
    "tweet.fields": tweet_fields,
    "user.fields": user_fields,
}
clean_fields = {key: value for key, value in fields.items() if value}

result = self.http.request("GET", self.RECENT, clean_fields, self._headers())
self._last_response = ResponseHeader.build_from(result)

return Recent.build_obj(self.data2dict(result.data))

Still a lot but easier to read by leaps and bounds. Quick little line for cleaning and this feels good.

ugh, discord just ate all the indents at the top.

[echo fern]

Usually when I show my own functions like that, people tell me to put my options into a class 🥴

that would actually look quite poggers with a builder pattern

imagine

RecentQuery(query).from_time(31231231).to_time(645625422).since_id(173423).search()

[mental idol]

Hmmm, that's an interesting model.

So RecentQuery is a factory and it's just chaining the resulting object. Mutating itself at each step?

[echo fern]

Either that, or returning changed copies, but the former is obviously a bit less wasteful

[mental idol]

!bm 908575309283074100

Not how that works.

[echo fern]

.bm, iirc

[daring jay]

That's a Lance command, not Python haha

[cedar turtle]

i love the builder pattern

[mental idol]

I like the idea. Gonna play with it tomorrow probably. I think I want it mutated in place so things are more readable.

query = query.from_time(...)
# versus
query.from_time(...)

[cedar turtle]

angry functional programmer noises

[echo fern]

usually one uses chaining, like

(RecentQuery(query)
.from_time(31231231)
.to_time(645625422)
.since_id(173423)
.search())

This is totally not a common pattern in Rust libraries, no sir 👀

[cedar turtle]

oh yes

[mental idol]

... I could use a context manager too.

with QueryBuilder() as query:
    query.from_time = ...
    query.search = ""
    results = query.run()

[daring jay]

oh yes

[echo fern]

hmm, interesting, what'd the manager do?

[cedar turtle]

no that doesn't look as nice as the builder pattern

[mental idol]

I agree... just playing with the thoughts

[cedar turtle]

but writing builders is kinda a pain, you gotta have attributes and methods for all of them

[mental idol]

have.... you seen the data model for this alone? I'm in for the pain

[cedar turtle]

we need something like this in py https://docs.rs/derive_builder/0.10.2/derive_builder/

[mental idol]

https://github.com/Preocts/twwordmap/blob/main/twitterapiv2/model/recent/data.py Do it once, use it forever.

.bm 908575309283074100

[daring jay]

Hmmm

I wonder if you could build a tool to do something similar

[cedar turtle]

exactly my idea

[daring jay]

for classes though, not structs

[cedar turtle]

may be using some sick ast manipulation with exec

thats doesn't sound nice

[daring jay]

hmm but I wonder syntactically how you'd do it

Well, how you'd make it not icky at all

[unreal sigil]

When in doubt, abuse future annotations

[cedar turtle]

@Builder(name='LolBuilder')
class Lol:
  x: int
  y: int

myobject = LolBuilder().x(0).y(0).build();

[daring jay]

Do decorators work on classes?

[cedar turtle]

can you elaborate

[daring jay]

If so, that would make it much easier

[cedar turtle]

yes

[daring jay]

#python-discussion message

[cedar turtle]

!e ```py
@lambda c: print(f"Hello, {c}")
class Bruh:
...

[clever salmon]

@cedar turtle :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

Hello, <class '__main__.Bruh'>

[unreal sigil]

You can do anything with the power of from __future__ import annotations

[cedar turtle]

althought, isn't annotations available by default

[mental idol]

Will it write my novel for me?

[unreal sigil]

Future annotations are stringified

[cedar turtle]

o sorry

THATS SICK BRUH

[unreal sigil]

Which opens up all sort of cursed opportunities

[cedar turtle]

OMG HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS

[mental idol]

Future annotations do make the process of things easier.

[unreal sigil]

!e

from __future__ import annotations

@lambda c:c()
class __annotations__:
    def __setitem__(self, k, v):
        if k == "For":
            self.condition = v.split(",")[1].strip()
            self.var = v.split(",")[0].strip("(")
            globals()[self.var] = 0

        elif k == "_":
            code = v.strip("{").strip("}").strip().split(", ")
            code_string = "\n".join(stuff.strip("'") for stuff in code)

            while eval(self.condition):
                exec(code_string)
                globals()[self.var] += 1

For:(x, x < 4, ++x);_:{
    print("Hello world"),
    print(x)
}

[clever salmon]

@unreal sigil :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | Hello world
002 | 0
003 | Hello world
004 | 1
005 | Hello world
006 | 2
007 | Hello world
008 | 3

[mental idol]

I wrote a wrapper that leveraged them... then wrote it to not use them and just.... ugh.

[cedar turtle]

this is so cool

im going to abuse this to my heart's content

[mental idol]

This is illegal in 12 states.

[cedar turtle]

although i imagine this future trick may break existing annotations on classes

[unreal sigil]

!e

from __future__ import annotations

def _(func):
    code = "\n".join(func.__annotations__["return"][1:-1].split(", "))
    def wrapper():
        exec(code)
    return wrapper

@_
def test()->{
    print("test"),
    print("hello world")
}:...

test()

[clever salmon]

@unreal sigil :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | test
002 | hello world

[unreal sigil]

It will break everything

[cedar turtle]

let the world burn

[daring jay]

did you just use return type to write code

[unreal sigil]

Perhaps

[cedar turtle]

mayhaps

[daring jay]

I am concerned for your sanity Jack

[hidden kernel]

wait but thats illegal

[unreal sigil]

!e

from __future__ import annotations

@lambda c:c()
class __annotations__:
    def __setitem__(self, name, value):
        globals()[value] = globals()[name]

class Number:
    def __init__(self, value):
        self.value = value

    def __pos__(self):
        self.value += 0.5
        return self
    
    def __str__(self):
        return str(self.value)

class console:
    def log(*args, **kwargs): 
        print(*args, **kwargs)

let: i = Number(5);

++i;
console.log(i);

[clever salmon]

@unreal sigil :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

6.0

[mental idol]

and yet, there it is.

[unreal sigil]

I do love my future annotatinos

[daring jay]

omg

[cedar turtle]

wow

[cedar turtle]

should've deleted globals()[name] for true effect

[unreal sigil]

👀

[mental idol]

Go all out, yeet: globals()[name]

[cedar turtle]

yeetscript

[mental idol]

I need to yeet myself to bed. Thanks for the feed backs @daring jay
Night you code breakers you.

[daring jay]

globals have been yeeted

uhh, I gave you no advice, that was Reptile

But good night, Preocts

[mental idol]

@echo fern thanks for the advice/suggestion!

I'm very tired...

but I'm telling myself it's Friday and I only work in 4 hours and only for 7 hours at that so I coooould just stay up and play around with a builder model instead

[daring jay]

woah it's midnight already I should sleep too

[cedar turtle]

damn

[echo fern]

I was going to post this 15 minutes ago, but my internet went out 😔

@generate_builder()
@dataclass
class RecentQuery:
    query: str
    max_results: Optional[int] = None
    next_token: Optional[str] = None
    start_time: Optional[datetime] = None
    end_time: Optional[datetime] = None
    since_id: Optional[str] = None
    until_id: Optional[str] = None
    expansions: Optional[str] = None
    media_fields: Optional[str] = None
    place_fields: Optional[str] = None
    poll_fields: Optional[str] = None
    tweet_fields: Optional[str] = None
    user_fields: Optional[str] = None

[cedar turtle]

i have tons of frogs shouting at me

[cedar turtle]

is there a lib for it

[echo fern]

^ you can probably make a decorator to autogenerate the builder methods like this

[daring jay]

yeah I didn't realize decorators worked on classes. Now why I thought that, I couldn't tell you.

[dusky cliff]

tbf dataclass is the only class decorator ive seen

dunno if there's any other in the stdlib at all

[elfin vine]

Imagine this without dataclasses lmao

[echo fern]

lol

[odd sphinx]

bruh

[tepid hamlet]

long live visual studio code

[echo fern]

is this really how you uninstall stuff on mac lmao

[tepid hamlet]

I figured it was the best way to tell Pycharm CE that it ain't welcome on my system

Get off my Mac, Jetbrains!

[hazy laurel]

how rude 😔

[dusky cliff]

😢

[tepid hamlet]

Pycham has been 10,000 times as rude, it almost overheated my mac, I had to yeet the poor laptop into the freezer because pycharm was heating it up

[hazy laurel]

How did you manage that? \🤔

[pliant trench]

bruh

[tepid hamlet]

Death to Pycharm. Glory to VS Code.

[pliant trench]

Glory to emacs

[tepid hamlet]

death to emacs

and glory to vs code

[pliant trench]

nah

[hazy laurel]

love JetBrains IDEs

[dusky cliff]

same

[pliant trench]

bruh wtf, my fans are working even if I have nothing opened

always the same on windows

[tepid hamlet]

I definitely do not love Pycharm CE overheating my Mac and forcing me to yeet the thing into the freezer.

[hazy laurel]

Sound like a mac problem I guess

Meanwhile I open like 3 different IDEs at once and have no problems :faint:

[tepid hamlet]

Well, I have the bad feeling it's going to happen again even when I make the switch to Ubuntu

No contest, death to PyCharm. No joke.

98% of pycharm is bloat

[hazy laurel]

._.

[pliant trench]

yk PyCharm is not that bad,
but vs code is enough for me

on windows at least

[pliant trench]

Your mac is broken.

[odd sphinx]

damn

[tepid hamlet]

which is why i can't wait to upgrade to linux

[pliant trench]

linux is not gonna be that good too

[jovial island]

is linux really that better

than widnows for programming?

[hazy laurel]

1,000% imo

just imagine doing C/C++ development without UNIX tooling

[jovial island]

what are linux plus points?

[jade bolt]

is linux really that worse

than widnows for progaming?

[odd sphinx]

eh

[daring jay]

Worse?

I'd say better tbh, since there are so many more tools geared towards *nix than Windows

[jade bolt]

but how many games out there actually supports linux

[daring jay]

Oh wait, you said progaming not programming

I didn't even realized you typoed

Idk about gaming

[dim root]

yes linux not really good for gaming

[hazy laurel]

You'd be surprised

Linux is great for gaming

the only problem is that games deliberately choose not to work

namely because of anticheats

AFAIK and IIRC, Linux also actually outperforms Windows in a good chunk of Proton benchmarks

[jade bolt]

ooo, that is why most ctf requires linux, linux is a cheat tool

ooo

[hazy laurel]

._.

This is slowly changing, however

More anticheats are pushing to support Linux via Proton

[jade bolt]

waiting to see stores actually sell computers with linux

in my region they only sell windows/macos

[hazy laurel]

I'm sure you'll find some retail stores with Linux computers

I know Dell and Lenovo have Linux computers

[jade bolt]

ah i probably havent been in those stores

[hazy laurel]

yeah me neither LMAO

but tbh the best we have is Wal-Mart

[lapis plinth]

make one

its like 1.5-2x cheaper usually

[pliant trench]

oohh

do they?

interesting

[hazy laurel]

they do

[pliant trench]

das good

[jade bolt]

idk how do i craft a laptop, id like to have a desktop crafted, but uh i want everything to be easy cariable

[lapis plinth]

oh laptops :/

[jade bolt]

so that i can drop database and run away

[lapis plinth]

you could get a random laptop then just install linux on it

[jade bolt]

yeah, ive been using windows for too long im afraid that changing an os isnt an easy task

[hazy laurel]

Framework moment

just get one without a preloaded OS

[jade bolt]

do i need a physical disk to run that os? never seen one of those

[hazy laurel]

huh?

[jade bolt]

uh i mean for .iso files

[hazy laurel]

oh

well of course

[lapis plinth]

just build your iso before getting the new one

[hazy laurel]

oh, I understand now

yeah you'd want to go into this with installation media available beforehand

but hey, it cuts down on the price. No paying for a Windows license or whatever

[lapis plinth]

you can run a test version of windows at least with a bootable iso without actually installing it im guessing you can with linux but ive never tried, just to test it

lol i totally didnt get a windows key for 3$ on ebay

that would be baddddd

[hazy laurel]

banned.

waste of $3

[lapis plinth]

but ye always test an iso first as building one for the first time is usually sort of confusing, i tried for an hour to use an iso i never made bootable so..

[hazy laurel]

huh?

How'd you manage that

it's literally just like... plug in USB, select iso, click epic button, reboot into one time boot menu, select USB

done

[lapis plinth]

idk i looked up how to use an iso and they said download it, make it bootable, then put it in the pc but never actually said how to make it bootable

but the weird thing was it wasnt getting to bios so I thought my mobo had broke as i dropped it on fabric the other day

[pliant trench]

Saint IGNUcius

great

[ionic flax]

[Unit]                                                               
Description=Home assistant                                           
                                                                     
[Service]                                                            
Type=simple                                                          
Restart=on-failure                                                   
ExecStart=cd /home/darren/homeassistant && bash start.sh             
CPUAccounting=yes                                                    
MemoryAccounting=yes                                                 
                                                                     
[Install]                                                            
WantedBy=default.target
```Whats wrong with my config?

[pliant trench]

config of what

[jovial island]

which linux os should i get (new to programming, first time linux)

[round moss]

ubuntu

[pliant trench]

would be good

[steel eagle]

Ubuntu for sure

[echo fern]

how's it called again when you merge two meanings of a word in a sentence?

like, I dunno, "I hanged my coat and up on him"

[somber belfry]

portmanteau?

[somber belfry]

what

[dusky cliff]

portmanteau is just joining two words into one

[echo fern]

nah

[dusky cliff]

like brunch

[somber belfry]

oh wait
you hanged your coat and you hanged up on him

[echo fern]

yeah

[somber belfry]

that took me a while

[echo fern]

there's a word for this, and I forgot it

[carmine herald]

confusion

[echo fern]

got it

zeugma is what I'm looking for, I think

Zeugma (often also called syllepsis, or semantic syllepsis): a single word is used with two other parts of a sentence but must be understood differently in relation to each.[6][7][8][9] Example: "He took his hat and his leave." The type of figure is grammatically correct but creates its effect by seeming, at first hearing, to be incorrect by its exploiting multiple shades of meaning in a single word or phrase.

You held your breath and the door for me

[carmine herald]

is zeugma like ligma

[dusky cliff]

I KNEW IT

someone had to bring it up

[carmine herald]

im sowwy uwu

[sinful sun]

Zeugma breath and door

[shrewd lance]

He took his hat and his deez

[sinful sun]

Oooh zeugma is greek, nice

Related to ζευγάρι, which means "couple"

[carmine herald]

deez what?

[fluid plank]

interesting

[mental idol]

smol refactor https://github.com/Preocts/twwordmap/commit/ccab80f46504e40596e6ddfdd31d59489cd83015

But there is what I think a builder pattern should do. Now to go read up on builders and see if I guessed right
https://github.com/Preocts/twwordmap/blob/main/twitterapiv2/search_client.py#L175-L188

[clever salmon]

twitterapiv2/search_client.py lines 175 to 188

nanotag = (
    SearchClient()
    .start_time("2021-11-10T00:00:00Z")
    .end_time(datetime.utcnow() - timedelta(seconds=10))
    .expansions("author_id,attachments.poll_ids")
)
for idx in range(2):
    result = nanotag.search(
        "#NaNoWriMo",
        max_results=10,
        page_token=nanotag.next_token,
    )
    for tweet_text in result.data:
        print(tweet_text.text)```

[mental idol]

cc: @echo fern

[hazy laurel]

um

that is some syntax I've never seen before

In [1]: foo = (
   ...:     "foo"
   ...:     .split()
   ...: )

In [2]: foo
Out[2]: ['foo']

wow and it works \🤔

Why has nobody brought this to my attention lol

[mental idol]

#PEP8

I think it would look better with the method calls indented another block but I understand why they aren't.

[hazy laurel]

yeah that's how Rust does it

I think

[mental idol]

Not sure I have a strong preference of

nanotag = (
    SearchClient()
    .start_time("2021-11-10T00:00:00Z")
    .end_time(datetime.utcnow() - timedelta(seconds=10))
    .expansions("author_id,attachments.poll_ids")
)

over

nanotag = SearchClient(
    start_time="2021-11-10T00:00:00Z",
    end_time=datetime.utcnow() - timedelta(seconds=10),
    expansions="author_id,attachments.poll_ids",
)

But having the builder method makes docstrings far more useful

Which helps devs and users.... so I think that sells me on it.

What are the dozen different fields I can add? Oh right, a popup or help() call away.https://github.com/Preocts/twwordmap/blob/main/twitterapiv2/search_client.py#L102-L109 easy.

[clever salmon]

twitterapiv2/search_client.py lines 102 to 109

def tweet_fields(self, tweet_fields: Optional[str]) -> "SearchClient":
    """
    Define tweet_fields of query. Comma seperated with no spaces:
        attachments, author_id, context_annotations, conversation_id,
        created_at, entities, geo, id, in_reply_to_user_id, lang,
        non_public_metrics, public_metrics, organic_metrics,
        promoted_metrics, possibly_sensitive, referenced_tweets,
        reply_settings, source, text, withheld```

[mental idol]

@rocky coyote , couldn't you use .replaceAll()? (per the JS question from pygen)

[rocky coyote]

It seems that I can, my intellisence was not working properly so that did show up. Thanks

[jovial island]

@tepid hamlet lol there we go

i guess cmd doesnt like utf8

[daring jay]

If your terminal isn't using utf8 by default on Windows, you should be able to change the encoding of the current session with chcp 65001

[jovial island]

@tepid hamlet also this question may help
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2476953/python-utf-8-howto-align-printout

[jovial island]

uhm how do i do that

oh chcp 65001

[hazy laurel]

this is font dependent usually

you'll need a monospace font that supports these symbols

[jovial island]

still same tho

windows terminal seems fine with them

[daring jay]

oh

winterm is great, anyway

[jovial island]

yeah, i was just checking this for pycharmkiller.py 's question.