by imports do you mean libraries?
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
lone jacinth
low chasm
Yeah
One is going to be pretty straightforward, import <lib>, the other will be something like addon <module>
lone jacinth
better than pycharms way
low chasm
Import basically imports functions and whatnot
Normal libs
addon imports one function, the Evaluate function
You'll be able to make a module with its own grammar, like ```
Evaluate("""
code
"""
Its basically importing your own language
graceful slate
mild abyss
you start
versed saffron
I was bored and figured I should learn smthing useful
ancient stream
The beacons of Minas Tirith were lit, and I figured they needed aid. So I decided to program
versed saffron
on a slightly related note, I'm trying to 'program' (that's the related part) smthing so I don't have to open every dingle beatmap in an osu map pack but it's just doing this weird thing where it seemingly opens the (a?) file and instantly closes it
but nothing's being sent to osu and idk if it's a limitation of the software or if there's a trick to it
I thought it was potentially opening the files too quickly but sticking a time.sleep in there doesn't change anything
(ping if you know I've got a feeling this'll get lost)
uneven pine
I started coding by breaking into the os of a kids educational laptop I won from a cereal box when I was 11 or 12
Then finding python files, and reverse engineering them
I didn't even know that it was "programming"
I just realized if I typed things a certain way I could make the computer do things
Eventually learned that I could start then by typing python, previously I was editing files that a program opened
Once I got access to the internet, I started googling about it and learning what it was
formal blaze
Did anyone face account access is temporarily limited on paypal before?
uneven pine
usually happens if someone is constantly trying to access your account
or if you failed to login too many times
formal blaze
Can't I just delete my account and re-create it? Paypal is being an asshole
uneven pine
that's generally not recommended?
formal blaze
Sigh
uneven pine
Contact paypal, see what's going on
uneven pine
do you have any idea why the account has been limited?
uneven pine
well then your best bet is to contact them and accept the time delay, as a consequence of making a mistake
if you try to make a new account, they very well may block that, whether instantly or not
formal blaze
Geeze
uneven pine
and with enough issues, they will ban you from using their platform.
formal blaze
Have you ever dealt with an account limitation before? I want to make sure if they will really take 5 days or not
I hope they take one or something :(
edgy crest
@low chasm why why why are you making a jsython
uneven pine
@formal blaze I have, they had me fixed up in about 24 hours, but you just gotta be patient in the end
Though my limitation was due to someone trying to access my account
formal blaze
I'm sorry if this might be personal, What information did they ask for ?
uneven pine
Name address phone number recent transactions with approximate dates and times, stuff like that
Was about 5 years ago or so though so it's not really fresh in my memory
mellow spire
Hacker News
eternal wing
@quick scroll you can just choose one ot channel and stick with it xD
But lol, it will give everyone a slight ego boost when starting their program
quick scroll
LMAO
quick scroll
bruh what you doin with gcc in python lol
eternal wing
because those compiled files are scary to antivirus
quick scroll
true
eternal wing
you can ignore those, assuming you wrote the code
quick scroll
.exe's are the enemy of an windows pc
eternal wing
it is just antivirus doing its job, since those files could potentially contain anything
quick scroll
lol
yeah
atleast my windows defender prevented a virus from deleting system32 LOL
it's gotten a lot better
rough sapphire
One of the examples of threats were Program.wacapew and TrojanDownloader.Psdownload
oh no
thts why i use tccc
quick scroll
bruh when you have those words for the names of the files itself
quick ledge
who's out there naming their trojans "trojan"
quick scroll
yeah but get it from sourceforge
rough sapphire
no it is SPYWARE 100
rough sapphire
I have quick heal
rough sapphire
ok
quick scroll
we'll see what they say
rough sapphire
no Nothing ba
d
Nothing for the g++.exe
Nothing!
heavy breathing
well quickheal was giving me jumpscares with its threats so
winter terrace
I technically can sleep in tomorrow but my fucking human body has a sleep schedule
quick scroll
lol
shrewd crow
console.log(rebel)
mild abyss
every one is red
narrow pecan
Because we have Christmas hat things
I’ll need to update mine later on though hahah
edgy crest
hm
narrow pecan
I added this hat for my logo yesterday night, on my phone
edgy crest
lol on your phone? u are god
edgy crest
i wouldnt have been able to add mine if u didnt tell me about inkscape lel
obsidian kraken
'
rough sapphire
that goat jus built different 😰 🥶
wispy atlas
hey just wondering if #help-chocolate was the right room to ask how to download pygames?
rough sapphire
the help rooms r dedicated to all the corners of python
quick ledge
@wispy atlas Check #❓｜how-to-get-help
wispy atlas
yea i did thx for your help tho
gleaming thicket
@rough sapphire The logo looks really good!
rough sapphire
Thank you 
topaz aurora
Oh hey, Firefox update fixed YouTube flickering
Just noticed, it had something to do with videos that are not 16:9 e.g. automatically generated videos for music which are often 1:1
mild abyss
yeah as what I’ve heard. it is like an IDE rather than an editor according to some peeps. or some say it is like its own operating system rather than an application. thats according to some Linux youtubers that use emacs as their daily editor
okay goodnight everyone
💤
plain mauve
Anyone here know html
thorn copper
why is everone red??
scarlet wind
bcuz they angry
rough sapphire
@near cometI am autistic,but anyway. I used to laugh about ppl like me
plain mauve
What does autistic mean?
young imp
which server is python using to talk?
surreal otter
Autism isn't acquired if that's what you're askin
rough sapphire
wow latest version of discord android supports markdown now
sinful path
oh
surreal otter
you're born with it, whether or not it is diagnosed doesn't change whether or not it is had
just like cancer
if I don't know I have cancer because a doc didn't tell me, I still die from cancer
But it's not like cancer in that it's less a disease, and more that your brain functions differently
and it's less a boolean and more a float
not quite yes no, more a scale
young imp
what country does python use to talk?
thorn copper
bcuz they angry
@scarlet wind ikr
young imp
uhh how to get video role?
regal condor
What is the server logo lol
crimson wind
I'm not sure why but it looks gross to me
graceful basin
see #changelog
regal condor
It feels like someone tried to write hindi
crimson wind
That explains the tacky looking font
That's exactly what it is, it's supposed to look reminiscent of hindi
regal condor
Haha yeah
crimson wind
Yep, nothing says "festival of lights" like vaguely Indian designs and fonts
spark dust
why does the server banner image look weird?
nvm its coz of diwali
my honest opinion it sucks, ik someone tried to their hard to make the banner and its good but
its super weird
thorn copper
my honest opinion it sucks, ik someone tried to their hard to make the banner and its good but
@spark dust it's written in hindi + english we indians love it
spark dust
@spark dust it's written in hindi + english we indians love it
@thorn copper first things first
i live in india
spark dust
and second
stop putting brand labels on stuff, and stop representing the whole community as if ur carry the whole community opinion
i know it feels good to some people
thorn copper
...
spark dust
and i mean no offense to them
its fine if you like it
but i personally didn;t
and same goes for every other person
quick ledge
Dot-squad, maybe you'd prefer a better icon but do keep in mind that someone has to create one
spark dust
its just that it looks a little weird to me
quick ledge
I'm not a fan of the font too
spark dust
not in a bad sense just a weird sense
quick ledge
in general
spark dust
same
quick ledge
But I felt like it came together alright in the banner
thorn copper
But I felt like it came together alright in the banner
@quick ledge ye
spark dust
the server icon looks dope it has a lot of detailing
but the font is kinda a little confusing to me
spark dust
welp personal opinions
thorn copper
ye
spark dust
what is this @median dome
quick ledge
it's in #dev-branding
thorn copper
what is this @median dome
@spark dust it changes according to every server update
spark dust
what does it do?
thorn copper
i can hear the crackers
means again the long lasting pollution cloud
@spark dust welp RIP i don't use crackers Much only some of the fooljharis lil
what does it do?
@spark dust it has commands DUH!
quick ledge
what is this @median dome
@spark dust it's a bot that was made during one of the code jams.
As the name suggests, it gets some "seasonal" commands
like for example on halloween, valentines day, etc
quick ledge
it has been deseasonified tho
thorn copper
i dunno where you live
but people here are too stupid
@spark dust lol
spark dust
.help
median domeBOT
Command Help
thorn copper
it has been deseasonified tho
@quick ledge ooo
spark dust
oh didn't know it had the prefix
quick ledge
so the commands are available year round
topaz aurora
Let's uh, keep commands to #sir-lancebot-playground
thorn copper
easter ended tight?
quick ledge
you can try the commands in #sir-lancebot-playground
quick ledge
I agree
uncut coral
thorn copper
this is one of the best servers ever
@uncut coral ikr
topaz aurora
We really should deeasterify @median dome
regal condor
@uncut coral Oh my god.
thorn copper
We really should deeasterify @median dome
@topaz aurora lul
uncut coral
lmao
topaz aurora
@uncut coral Dropping gifts is ill-advised here. Bots are bound to snag it
quick ledge
@uncut coral , posting nitro gifts here isn't really a great idea considering the self-bpts
uncut coral
ehhh i dont rlly care
quick ledge
👍
regal condor
Bruh
spark dust
lol
thorn copper
hmmmm
uncut coral
HAVE FUN BOT
topaz aurora
meh, imo it just fuels the self-botters further
spark dust
thanks
~Bot
regal condor
yeah.
warm sail
yeah
uncut coral
yeah.
spark dust
yeah
uncut coral
the bot who ever has nitro can see this lol
regal condor
Uh
uncut coral
its a nitro only image
regal condor
What
uncut coral
yea
only if u have nitro u can look at the image
if u dont have nitro it will show u a cover thats says u need nitro or something
warm sail
didn't knew there was something like this on discord
oak tangle
there's not
warm sail
lol I knew he was making things up kidding
last spire
Can anyone think of a number that would be understood as a python reference? like the year python was created
ancient stream
42
only if u have nitro u can look at the image
@uncut coral I call bs because I have nitro
rough sapphire
uncut coral
yea i know
thorn copper
guys don't be angry cause ya'll red
thorn copper
lul
ancient stream
Ah
thorn copper
guys don't be angry cause ya'll red
uncut coral
?
uncut coral
oooooooo
quick ledge
@pastel tapir sorry about leaving you earlier but I had to do something
i ws suggesting that you do someting like:
def merge2(d1, d2):
for key in d1.keys():
print(f"{key}, [ {value corresponding to the key from m2} , {value corresponding to the key from m3}} ] ")
m2 is passes into the function as d1 and m3 is passed into the function as d2
I can elaborate more on "value corresponding to the key from m2" part if you'd like
pastel tapir
def merge1(d1,d2):
for key, value in d1.items():
print(f"{key}, [{d1[key]}, {d2[key]}]" )
Something like this?
quick ledge
yep
but you don't need value
so you can just do
for key in d1.keys():
doing for key in d1 is pretty much the same as for key in d1.keys(): btw
pastel tapir
Oh yeah..it worked!
The thing is to display it like
a, [40, 40]
b, [45, 54]
c, [57, 60]
d, [90, 60]
I have to use another function I created
@quick ledge
pastel tapir
Yeah, like I have to use another function that'll display it like
a, [40, 40]
b, [45, 54]
c, [57, 60]
d, [90, 60]
I've created the function
quick ledge
what is the difference between the two?
viscid crest
how do i denote a number in this line so that if x isnt a number it prints something
in other words what represents a number if x !=
quick ledge
I think you are looking for str.isdigit()
@viscid crest
viscid crest
thank you
quick ledge
it will return true if the string is a digit
viscid crest
ima go t a help thing cuz i dont know the correct syntax for that
quick ledge
"1234".isdigit() will return True
@viscid crest
viscid crest
oh ok
scarlet jetty
also u can try to implement this function ur self as a learning
scarlet jetty
str.isalpha
viscid crest
thanks
oak tangle
There's a handy list of string methods in the docs
It's a good idea to read through it once to know what's available
scarlet jetty
an easy thing u could do is download idle
scarlet jetty
and it's easy to figure out what functions on an object by pressing tab
or using dir
on an object
then u could go like this
help(dir)
help(print)
viscid crest
tab adds an indent
scarlet jetty
and the docs will showup
viscid crest
x = int(input())
if x >= 18:
print("yes")
else:
print("no")
if x.isalpha():
print('you must type a number')
I'm mean the tab u use in editor
viscid crest
what
scarlet jetty
I mean the tab in idle u press it to see all methods available for an object
quick ledge
that will not work the way you want it to @viscid crest
if x.isalpha(): print('you must type a number')
will never get executed
warm sail
that will not work the way you want it to @viscid crest
@quick ledge exactly
quick ledge
int(input()) will not give you a string
warm sail
cuz you are taking an integer input no need to verify it
viscid crest
oh i see
quick ledge
if you entered a string as input, you will get a ValueError
warm sail
you can also use try/except
scarlet jetty
x = input()
if(x.isdigit()):
if int(x) >= 18:
print("yes")
else:
print("no")
if x.isalpha():
print('you must type a number')
im using this to code https://code.sololearn.com/283/#py
quick ledge
whatever suits you the best
scarlet jetty
I don't see where is the problem is
viscid crest
oh my god it works
quick ledge
@scarlet jetty in airborn's code?
int(input()) will only return ints
x.isalpha() is a string method
viscid crest
i used your code, person with the unicode charachters
quick ledge
ah i didnt see the changes he made
viscid crest
x = input()
if(x.isdigit()):
if int(x) >= 18:
print("yes")
else:
print("no")
if x.isalpha():
print('you must type a number')
this works
scarlet jetty
x = input()
if(x.isdigit()):
if int(x) >= 18:
print("yes")
else:
print("no")
if x.isalpha():
print('you must type a number')
because int(x) may lead to an exception
but isdigit()
will help avoid that
quick ledge
well then at that point
try:
x = int(input())
except ValueError:
print("you must type a number ")
is better
viscid crest
# working code
x = input()
if(x.isdigit()):
if int(x) >= 18:
print("yes")
else:
print("no")
if x.isalpha():
print('you must type a number')
print(' ')
print(' ')
print(' ')
# new code
x = input()
if(x.isdigit()):
try:
if int(x) >= 18:
print("yes")
else:
print("no")
except:
pass
if x.isalpha():
print('you must type a number')
both of these work
quick ledge
try:
x = int(input())
except ValueError:
print("you must type a number ")
if x >= 18:
print("yes")
else:
print("no")
try this
viscid crest
it dosent work
the ones above do tho
# working code
x = input()
if(x.isdigit()):
try:
if int(x) >= 18:
print("yes")
else:
print("no")
except:
pass
if x.isalpha():
print('you must type a number')
this works fine and i will stress test it more
winter terrace
I think I know why it doesn’t work
quick ledge
yeah i need to stop the program
winter terrace
.isdigit checks if it’s a digit
round rose
.isdecimal is the one you should use IIRC
viscid crest
only issue with this code is that when you type a symbol in the box it says no output
quick ledge
try:
x = int(input())
except ValueError:
print("you must type a number ")
else:
if x >= 18:
print("yes")
else:
print("no")
@viscid crest
winter terrace
If you wanted to check if it’s a number, you would have to do a try except
round rose
I mean, the best approach is definitely try-except
quick ledge
hey farmart, congrats on helper
round rose
ey, thanks
low chasm
Hi :D
vocal bough
'
I mean, the best approach is definitely try-except
@round rose This is one of the hardest things about learning Python for this C# developer of close on 20 years. There using exceptions for anything but, basically, unexpected exceptions, is strictly taboo. It's very expensive.
hidden karma
nobody is red
plucky ridge
Just looking for an opinion. I've narrowed down my watch search to these two
royal lakeBOT
plucky ridge
Don't judge me, Rab
I promise me posting this vote isn't an abuse of power. You can't prove otherwise
I need a tie breaker
@rich moon Well played
rich moon
lmaoooo
coral void
when I think of you I imagine B
plucky ridge
It's so hard to decide. I really REALLY like both
I'm not sure if that means I'm like... dark and broody? Or is it just the simple style of it
rough sapphire
Brown color is ....
weird
plucky ridge
Well again, I'm not keeping that band
rough sapphire
black got a different vibe
then go b
no, watchface
I would go a just for the band
plucky ridge
True, but I'm not huge on leather. I'm likely going to get a nylon one
You know what
rough sapphire
what ?
plucky ridge
I forgot
Oh jesus whelp not getting bands from there
The watch bands they have cost more than the watch
rough sapphire
go with local store for bands
that way you can physically feel it before buying it
cuz man if chosen wrong . a band feeling can make you leave that watch
plucky ridge
Maybe...God why am I so freaking wishy washy on this
You know what, fuck it
Going black
rough sapphire
Going black
That what ....
plucky ridge
Watch #2
rich rover
The votes are even
plucky ridge
Yeah I think I'm tipping towards the sleeker one. I never do that, I always go utilitarian
I want something fancy looking for once
And it's cheaper
Which is still a surprise
rich rover
Watch B?
rich rover
It looks sleek
plucky ridge
And it'll be easy to find a good black nylon band for it
rich rover
That sounds good I suppose
rich rover
You're gonna choose the 2nd one from the looks of it
Yeah
Sounds fancy, for a black nylon
rich rover
Alright, what are you waiting for then?
plucky ridge
Gotta stand up and get my keys so I can unlock my paypal
rich rover
Best of luck then, and I hope you do like it
plucky ridge
Thanks. I appreciate you guys putting up with me during this weird obsession
rich rover
It's the least we can do, Hem
rich rover
Yeah
quick bay
we weren’t supposed to see that were we
plucky ridge
I mean it's already expired
rich rover
Hmmnn
rough sapphire
you know right some of us are "LUNATIC"
rich rover
Be careful haha
plucky ridge
I mean I'm still removing it
But I don't foresee it being useful to anyone even if they got it
rough sapphire
jokes on you I already stored it
rich rover
Lol
rough sapphire
4290 in the end, not gonna give everything
rich rover
@plucky ridge Enjoy your watch, mate
rough sapphire
enjoy your show ?
rich rover
@rough sapphire Hemlock's getting a new watch, to be fitted with a black nylon band for a fancy look
plucky ridge
rich rover
Yeah, they're nice
rough sapphire
You guys should look what I found
r/brokengifs
for example
PS, Not recommended to image sensitive people
This looks oddly satisfying
rich rover
This is a broken video image
rough sapphire
and it looks like <3
rich rover
Seizures
plucky ridge
Okay so
I might also be using you guys to look at bands
Because why not
I'm probably going to get a few
(cost allowing of course)
rich rover
@plucky ridge I mean, we're all friends and family, so it's not really using or anything
Would be glad to help you in any case
plucky ridge
I know it still feels like I'm an overbearing girlfriend pulling her boyfriend around the mall while she tries on clothes
rich rover
That does sound annoying, but that's not you
I mean, we did it for the sake of the fanciness, nothing more
rich rover
Haha
plucky ridge
plucky ridge
Hmm, maybe
rich rover
You could find another band though
plucky ridge
There's also this one, either with the black or silver clasp https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085Z6HBGN/ref=emc_b_5_i?th=1
Oh trust me, I'm thumbing through quite a few
Probably should go with the silver clasp to fit the rest of the watch case
rich rover
Hmmm
The simpler, the better
The watch is already simple enough, so it would be wise to pick something of the same matter
rough sapphire
Physical store is better
plucky ridge
https://www.amazon.com/Barton-Elite-Silicone-Watch-Bands/dp/B07B5PRPCP/ Considering one of these as well. @rough sapphire Not really an option at the moment, and I don't know where I could go that'd just sell bands
rough sapphire
Any watch shops should sell bands
rich rover
The third one looks reasonable, compared to the other two
Silicone also looks fitting for a leather band fitted watch
plucky ridge
-nods- That's what I was thinking. Just the right texture
I'll likely get one silicone and one a different material for comfort check.
Or if I'm feeling like one or another
rich rover
You're better off with the third one, yeah
plucky ridge
Since they're "quick release"
rich rover
Yeah
plucky ridge
Whelp, time to measure my wrist
There's more involved with this than I thought
It's... surprisingly cathartic
Like figuring out the right length
patent aurora
left jacinth
same. Plus the time where for some reason my routing was completely screwed up or whatever and I wasn't able to watch YT for a week.
For some reason tho, watching the desktop version on yt from my phone while NOT being logged in was possible.
tranquil orchid
Yeah youtubes down atm
tranquil orchid
It's back up now
midnight dirge
Still down for me 😦
rough sapphire
everything seems up now
ancient stream
dang, would be nice to watch yt burn XD
uneven pine
yeah
simple sand
@livid citrus but why do we pass in self to the wrapper?
quick ledge
#bot-commands message
assuming you are talking about this
think if it like this
you are not passing self in
when you define a function, you mention all the parameters
and self is a parameter
simple sand
why?
quick ledge
also that is in a class
simple sand
no like why do we pass in self to the wrapper?
quick ledge
when you do "hello".isupper()
"hello" is the self
no like why do we pass in self to the wrapper?
@simple sand can you point which line specifically
simple sand
def somethingmore(self):
pass
hmm
there is a self here
class A():
@something
def __call__(self):
return "HEY"
so you need to mention it there too
you can't just get rid of your parameters
simple sand
why?
the __call__ is func() that's why we pass in self to func() but why somethingmore()?
simple sand
huh?
livid citrus
@simple sand When you call a.__call__() or a()
quick ledge
you can't just snipe self() from __call__
livid citrus
it automatically passes self
quick ledge
you pass it into something()
and then pass it into somethingmore()
somethingmore() can't access self otherwise
simple sand
hmmm
thorn copper
PepsiCo
ancient stream
So hey I have these two functions, I need to call monthly_deposit_total in the monthly_total, and then subtract the monthly_expenses from the monthly_deposit_total result. Would I tell it to return total in the MDT function in order for me to use the total to subtract out total2 from it?
how did I know you would be the one to respond Xd
robust briar
Fisher is a try hard trying to become mod
ancient stream
Well he has done a lot to help me too lol
eternal wing
yeah, it looks like your total in monthly_deposit_total is the sum of all deposits. So you could return the total here, then do something like monthly_deposit_total() - total2 to get your $$$
robust briar
Fisher never helps me
eternal wing
and LOLOL. nah, I am a simple boi. I see natani need help with project, I reply. ez
ancient stream
Thats what I thought I would need to do, maybe I have a mistake here
eternal wing
@robust briar I taught you everything you know, son 
ancient stream
def monthly_total():
monthly_expenses = """Select (Expense_Amount) from {}""".format(current_month)
cursor = conn.cursor()
cursor.execute(monthly_expenses)
total2 = 0
for row in cursor:
expense = row[0] if row[0] else 0
total2 += expense
print(f"Your total expenses this month is:${total2}")
return total2
monthly_sum = monthly_deposit_total() - (total2)
print(f"Your total this month is: ${monthly_sum} ")
I assume I did something silly?
eternal wing
yes, you are returning total2 before you calc the monthly sum, so that code is inaccessible
ancient stream
derp..
eternal wing
noiiiice, is it totally working?
ancient stream
So far it seems to be
eternal wing
next step: learn flask or django and make an entire backend for it xD and a nifty front end 😄
gleaming thicket
omg why is everyone wearing Christmas hats already i still have my Halloween one on
ancient stream
I realized I got to take CEIS170C (C++) in March and I was told we make a program of our choice for it. So I was going to remake this in C++
But I need it done in python first lol
eternal wing
ohhh, that would be cool. I will be able to help much less with c++ LOL
ancient stream
So now the part I need to do is get the graphing portion working
And then I can move on to a gui, which I never done x.x
eternal wing
funny enough, that is a common way things are done professionally. Prototype in python, then create the production version in a faster lang
simple sand
Hey could somebody explain what this is doing?
log = logging.getLogger(__name__)
that reminds me of
simple sand
what?
mellow spire
@edgy crest how did u get sublime discord presence?
edgy crest
its a package of sublime
mellow spire
named?
simple sand
so am I
edgy crest
so yeah not comparable
mellow spire
idts, i like vs code better
simple sand
vsc sucks
@edgy crest sublime doesn';t even have a debugger, u have to add print everywhere
lol
mellow spire
Hey could somebody explain what this is doing?
log = logging.getLogger(__name__)
@simple sand A good convention to use when naming loggers is to use a module-level logger, in each module which uses logging, named as follows: logger = logging.getLogger(__name__) This means that logger names track the package/module hierarchy, and it's intuitively obvious where events are logged just from the logger name (not written by me)
edgy crest
copy pasta
simple sand
I don't get it
mellow spire
simple sand
thx
mellow spire
Logging is a very useful tool in a programmer’s toolbox. It can help you develop a better understanding of the flow of a program and discover scenarios that you might not even have thought of while developing.
By logging useful data from the right places, you can not only debug errors easily but also use the data to analyze the performance of the application to plan for scaling or look at usage patterns to plan for marketing.
read that link
u will understand everyting
simple sand
k thx
last mantle
hi
uneven pine
logging is good, I remember when I moved my bot over to logging
that was many many commits ago
simple sand
hmm
ancient stream
Hey @eternal wing https://paste.pythondiscord.com/izinayajac.py does that look better now with the docstrings like we discussed?
uneven pine
I'm actually preparing to revitalize my bot's TUI with Curses, or something similar to curses at least
add color coded messages, fix up the formatting a bit, etc
uneven pine
it's a terminal interface library
simple sand
hmm
uneven pine
all the way back from the C days
there are python bindings for it, I have a bit of experience with it
simple sand
i see
uneven pine
this is using curses, and in a standard terminal.
Mine won't be nearly as pretty, though
eternal wing
@ancient stream yes, this is better, for docstrings, you usually want it to be a quick description of what something does, nothing more and nothing less.
For the deposits function, there is no need to specify that it is a function or how a function works, that docstring should instead be something like Asks a user to input an amount of a deposit. Returns only once a valid deposit is entered.
line 30-32 is a perfect example of a really good docstring
ancient stream
kk! You are the bestest
solid pollen
hey @uneven pine, which app is that? It looks cool
ancient stream
Hmm I think now is a good time to rename the program. I been toying with it anyways. So folks! I has a quest for you! If you choose to take it, you will revel in the glory of naming my budgeting program.
I do ask that it is a serious suggestion. One that you would be fine with using a program by the name. Feel free to dm it if it gets to spammy in here if if the mods say so lol
rough sapphire
@solid pollen alsa mixer
solid pollen
Noice thanks!
uneven pine
barkwoo
I love github actions and vs code
a couple of clicks in a menu and my changes are pushed, and release branch merged from master, and tests running/packages building
simple sand
idk github but I do love vsc
uneven pine
it's very worth it to learn github
no need to worry about actions while you're new, but once you become more advanced they're really cool
simple sand
mhm
uneven pine
Especially with the MacOS build targets
jagged stratus
hello
simple sand
what are those?
marsh hatch
Came to off topic to call out your name @simple sand and I see it is already happening
uneven pine
it means I can build experimental versions of my apps for MacOS
simple sand
@marsh hatch wdym
uneven pine
despite not having a mac
simple sand
i will change that later in about 5 hrs
winter terrace
PEPSI MAN
simple sand
Came to off topic to call out your name @simple sand and I see it is already happening
@marsh hatch where did u come from though?
marsh hatch
simple sand
ohh i see
simple sand
mhm
mellow spire
(ignore this, sending it for the purpose of general)
uneven pine
Honestly, didn't expect to get a release out today for my bot
but I knocked through a good few changes I wanted to make for the past few weeks
simple sand
is this what u are talking about @uneven pine
uneven pine
yep
ancient stream
welp this graphing bit is harder than I thought it would be XD
eternal wing
yeah, it will be a decently sized feature to add to your project.
ancient stream
The biggest part is pulling the data that is already stored, which I am trying to determine if I tell the graph to use the functions themself, but wouldn't that just call the functions and make them run again?
eternal wing
you may need to split up your functions further. You should probably have functions that only get the data from the db and calculate the totals. So you can use them for graphing as well.
ancient stream
ah so some that only grab the data, and some that do the calculations?
and just call the "grabbers" inside the calculate functions where I need them?>
eternal wing
well, it depends how they will be used. It would be very DRY to have those functions separated, so that a small change to your db would not require rewriting a bunch of code, but only like one or two functions.
ancient stream
gotcha! Alright them I will continue this another time lol
prisma agate
solid pollen
@prisma agate no need to spam that in all 3 offtopic channel
uneven pine
https://i.imgur.com/s21SYML.png this look good for a basic overview changelog in the readme?
solid pollen
If you use the diff language, it should color it
But I’m not sure if it is a good idea
uneven pine
oooooh
can diff do anything other than +/-?
might look into some other highlights to see if I can find something that does neat stuff
there are a few trricks people use I know
back before custom embeds existed on discord, that's how people made pretty menus for bots
solid pollen
Not sure, if I don’t think plain diff can
rough sapphire
there is also git diff
remote socket
@rough sapphire if you knew you shouldn't be advertising, why did you do it?
remote socket
!warn 749147687915356212 Server advertising, don't do it again. You know our #rules.
royal lakeBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied warning to @rough sapphire.
plain mauve
Guys tell me what are the symptons of covid 19
mild abyss
Guys tell me what are the symptons of covid 19
@plain mauve refer to WHO's list of symptoms of covid
also get a doctor
thats the better way than diagnosing yourself
plain mauve
Listen to my story
mild abyss
hmm?
plain mauve
My teacher told me he was going to a marraige
Few days later he started showing covid sympton
young imp
hello
plain mauve
And he is brushing it off as seasonal flu
7-8 teachers in my college also fell ill
They are also showing similar symptons
One of the most common sympton reported is high fever
plain mauve
@mild abyss he also said having sore throat
simple sand
What background do yall currently use?
plain mauve
@rough sapphire neeeeeeeeerddddd
rough sapphire
NO U
uneven pine
terse sluice
because a multi-monitor is amazing
edgy crest
is your screen that big that you split it into multi monitors? how does that even work? i have never heard of something like this
simple sand
@edgy crest dual monitor setup or triple iddk
edgy crest
how did they mash it into a one ss
uneven pine
Just a desktop screenshot with ShareX
simple sand
cause that's the entire thing split into differenct monitros?
simple sand
this is mine
junior sphinx
wht
simple sand
wht?
rough sapphire
w h t
simple sand
??
junior sphinx
not a good screensaver
rough sapphire
wow dont be rood
uneven pine
that's also a wallpaper not a screensaver
this is basically my setup, it's a bit different now
simple sand
@uneven pine that's your room?
uneven pine
there's actually a lot of cable management
simple sand
not from what i can see
uneven pine
you'd be surprised how many wires are hidden under those tables
rough sapphire
disagree
junior sphinx
lol
simple sand
you'd be surprised how many wires are hidden under those tables
@uneven pine more are shown that hidden
simple sand
mhm
uneven pine
5 in that screenshot
rough sapphire
what the HECK wolfie
uneven pine
plus the phone is 6
rough sapphire
wolfie has a mini wolfie ;o
uneven pine
but the big screen is in the center of the room now as a simpit
my roommate and I have it set up so we can hotswap the HDMI, and a USB hub
with a keyboard/mouse/HOTAS/Racing wheel
so it's 2 cables to swap the simpit from one computer to the other
edgy crest
what are you doing with so many screens wtf
uneven pine
well, on my PC is just 2 screens now lol
except when hooked up to the simpit
the laptop is upstairs in my bedroom
but it's unused, as it has a broken screen
and a replacement costs more than twice what the whole computer is worth
edgy crest
you dont need a replacement smh..
simple sand
i only have 2 screens
uneven pine
I'll get a new laptop eventually
edgy crest
i have one smol old screen but i am ok with it :)
uneven pine
got a lot of things on the list before then
proper needle
Kaam 25 Divine ka
uneven pine
What?
proper needle
Ek no. Gana 👌
uneven pine
!rule 4
royal lakeBOT
simple sand
MINE
uneven pine
OOF
simple sand
lol
well the table would be different if i was at home
but I am currently at mom's house
edgy crest
@simple sand i have the same table as your red one, and a 7 year old laptop on it
but my table is black
simple sand
the dell one is 5 years old
edgy crest
i find sitting on a carpet more comfortable than a chair
simple sand
~~ohh u can see me if you look closely at my dell monitor ~~
narrow pecan
Does python have elements of periodic table
@rough sapphire what do you mean?
edgy crest
i love it when zenitsu gets serious
simple sand
anime are cool
edgy crest
i dont remember this scene, is it fanart? or was it in the anime andi dont remember and i have a reason to rewatch again
rough sapphire
no it was when he was fighting with the spider guy
solid pollen
@rough sapphire I think it will be easier to talk about lemons here
So.. if life gives you lemon, what do you make?
Hmm
That do be true
But outside of this server context?
quick ledge
🥁
tender silo
hmmm... sounds fun
solid pollen
I’ll leave you some time to think about that
edgy crest
@quick ledge lol i like it how you just covered the whole face with that hat 
quick ledge
pure oasis
Have anyone used screen protection glasses?
tender silo
yea... my screen protector protects me and my devices from C-4 and occasional taliban an isis attacks.... make sure the product has "taliban proof written on top it"
also i suggest doing a test with a 9mm glock just to make sure its of gud quality... cuz no one would like to get fucked by a fucking screen protector sales guy
pure oasis
How to do that?
lime bison
an off topic question: I'm using an UK layout keyboard. Until today, [Right Shift] + 2 combo produced a double quote, but oddly it doesn't work now. However it works on all other [Right Shift] + <number> combinations (such as %^&* works as expected.). I first thought whether 2 has some sort of bug or not but after trying [Left Shift] + 2, it successfully produced a double quote. Any idea why this is happening?
Exact layout
lime bison
wait is it linux with that special window decoration?
@tribal aurora Yeah, I'm using a linux distribution
tribal aurora
what distro?
lime bison
Kubuntu
lime bison
I remember I changed that too
@tribal aurora changed what?
tribal aurora
Window Decoration
lime bison
Ah, I see.
tribal aurora
That's what we're talking about right?
lime bison
I thought you changed some sort of keybinding related with the issue I posted
tribal aurora
nono
plucky ridge
Manjaro is love, Manjaro is life
lime bison
This what I use; https://github.com/vinceliuice/Layan-kde
lime bison
yeah, I use my github profile picture on twitter/discord etc.
tribal aurora
lol
plucky ridge
Speaking of Manjaro, actually..... https://pine64.com/product/pinephone-community-edition-manjaro-with-convergence-package-limited-edition-linux-smartphone/?v=f7d579f7ca29 Snagged one of these
My curiosity was too great
tribal aurora
oh man rly
solid pollen
I mean
Just strip the android distro and put manjaro on it
It shouldn’t be that hard
lime bison
On the last fosdem, I had chance to try KDE's plasma mobile. It was a very cool experience and in general it looked very stable
plucky ridge
Rather than retrofitting it
lime bison
such a shame that it supports very few devices
plucky ridge
I think my main curiosity is how well it'll work with that doc
solid pollen
I’m not sure if “built for this” is really applicable here 😄
lime bison
It would be really cool to write mobile apps in Python with a decent GUI options that works natively.
solid pollen
I mean, sure the vendor software is manjaro
solid pollen
But does that make it built especially on it?
plucky ridge
I corrected myself
solid pollen
I mean, android is a linux distro
plucky ridge
I'm not disagreeing with you on that front
But they typically aren't tailored for people to swap stuff around
And even if it sucks, $200 for a phone isn't bad
lime bison
the PinePhone has an ‘in-built’ profit of ~$10 per unit.
solid pollen
the way the linux stack is made, you can easily swap things around
lime bison
yeah, it is not bad at all!
lime bison
For the special edition, 3 GB ram sounds a bit low (especially compared to other phones that are currently on the market).
lime bison
Device Warranty: 30 Days
plucky ridge
Again, I'm in a buying mood and I don't do it often
My curiosity was too great
You don't often get a phone for that cheap to mess around with
Plus...
Manjaro
lime bison
For a fairly 'unstable'/'untest' hardware, 30 days is just not enough IMHO
solid pollen
Maybe the Pixel line?
@plucky ridge all of them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_One#Products_by_year_of_announcement_or_release
edgy crest
nice, you have twin hats
solid pollen
And they are source root restriction, which mean you can just flip it on and off
plucky ridge
Nifty
Yeah I know, it's probably a dumb purchase
But I don't know...
Just wanted to try it
And someone has to be willing to take the testing bullet
I'll do it for Manjaro
I wuv them
simple sand
.uwu I love em
median domeBOT
I wove em
solid pollen
Lol
plucky ridge
Huh
That looks more wrong than mine
"I wuv dem" would have been what I would think it would be
simple sand
plucky ridge
"wove" just doesn't seem right
Like it's woven into the fabric
The "o" sound doesn't feel silly enough
Back later, delivery run
edgy crest
yeah, wove doesnt sound good
solid pollen
I wonder if you can 100% nuke the android stack, and run a custom Linux/GNU
lime bison
I wonder if you can 100% nuke the android stack, and run a custom Linux/GNU
@solid pollen on an android phone?
solid pollen
Yes
lime bison
yeah, unfortunately the support for devices is not too broad due to 'proprietary systems'.
It is the same for using LibreBoot
only a handful of devices support replacing the current BIOS with something else
rough sapphire
hello world!
plain mauve
Hello society
solid pollen
I’m thinking if it is possible, not necessarily supported
It would probably boils down to if you can rewrite the entire disk, actually
stark prawn
It should be possible if the phone's unlocked.
solid pollen
seems like it
rough sapphire
I can neofetch using python... I think.. Lemme try
print ("neofetch!") bash neofetch
lime bison
an off topic question: I'm using an UK layout keyboard. Until today,
[Right Shift] + 2combo produced a double quote, but oddly it doesn't work now. However it works on all other[Right Shift] + <number>combinations (such as%^&*works as expected.). I first thought whether 2 has some sort of bug or not but after trying[Left Shift] + 2, it successfully produced a double quote. Any idea why this is happening?
@lime bison weirdly after a reboot everything works fine
round rose
The UK layout is... weird
lime bison
Hahaha, yes, kinda. I'm not from the UK, but my previous computer was using UK layout so I kept using it and it became a habit
rough sapphire
!e
print("neofetch!") bash neofetch```You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
rough sapphire
bru
frozen crane
@wooden mural what kind of espresso machine?
quick ledge
Im guessing the kind that can make you an espresso
frozen crane
@quick ledge it's not that simple
quick ledge
yeah I know 😔
frozen crane
@quick ledge there are a lot of espresso machines on the market that can't produce quality output and are ewaste. And among those that are worth purchasing, there are a lot of considerations.
quick ledge
I would imagine so, yeah
Do the cheap ones always fall in the can't produce quality output category?
frozen crane
yes
there's a lower limit on how cheap the equipment to create espresso can possibly be
Less than $300 is dubious and less than $100 just about guarantees it doesn't create espresso and was irresponsible to manufacture.
floral viper
I assume stelercus is of the "hipster developer"-type
quick ledge
how much did you get your machine for, stelercus?
frozen crane
@quick ledge I don't have one yet, so I just don't drink espresso unless I go to a shop.
quick ledge
Ah, my bad
I thought I saw you talking about your machine
frozen crane
I'm trying to decide if I'm going to save up for the one I really want (3000 dollars) or get one right away (more like 1000) when I graduate.
also the 3000 dollar one doesn't have a grinder, so that would be another 700.
floral viper
Personally I am of the cliché developer type. I only drink coke.
frozen crane
@floral viper only warm liquids? I have an iced coffee maker as well.
however I do have most of the devices in that picture
and several that are not.
floral viper
I drink coffee more as a necessity to survive the dark winter period here
quick ledge
that's cold warm liquid, silly
frozen crane
that's cold warm liquid, silly
@quick ledge thanks for clarifying
floral viper
That decides it then stel, you definitely belong to the hipster developer species
quick ledge
no problem
frozen crane
@floral viper that's fine with me
rough sapphire
coffee doesn't work on me, its a shame
frozen crane
you tell me what a sandwich is and I'll tell you if a hotdog is a sandwich
floral viper
I don't judge 😄 I just think it's funny that these stereotypes fit so well on us 😄