lOL how is that mars?!
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
cursive abyss
eternal wing
my nightlight is on, thats how
cursive abyss
๐คฆ๐ฝโโ๏ธ
frozen thorn
I don't understand the diagram lol. Is brown supposed to be white?
rough sapphire
the fuck kind of teabags do you use
gentle moss
gentle moss
round ones
frozen thorn
lmao
frozen thorn
I don't even use tea bags
cursive abyss
no, he means these: https://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-teabag-isolated-on-white-background-close-up-131454929.jpg
gentle moss
yeah
eternal wing
unless I'm drinking yorkshire gold ๐
rough sapphire
what the fuck is that
gentle moss
a disposable tea bag
rough sapphire
how are you supposed to pull that out
gentle moss
with a spoon
cursive abyss
you scoop it out
gentle moss
like reese does
eternal wing
eat it
eternal wing
LOL
cursive abyss
i'm so mad i laughed at that.
rough sapphire
that seems excessively and unnecessarily convoluted
eternal wing
dammit bisk, I cant handle this rn
that was good
that seems excessively and unnecessarily convoluted
you are not an enjoyer of fine things xD
rough sapphire
that's fine
eternal wing
bisk, I think you were made in a lab just to whip out puns
cursive abyss
loose teas are the best :B
eternal wing
I am too lazy for loose leaf tea
gentle moss
i haven't got time for that shit
eternal wing
I'm also drinking deathwish coffee lately, so tea wont cut it
frozen thorn
our tea takes like 15-20 minutes
gentle moss
strainer?
cursive abyss
plebes.
rough sapphire
the little flappy closey thingy
eternal wing
what is this our
rough sapphire
eternal wing
I actually grow lemon verbena and mint, makes an ok tea
gentle moss
sort of looks like a torture device tbh
cursive abyss
it's just a safety pin with a strainer attached. lol
rough sapphire
you could probably do some pretty kinky things with that
frozen thorn
We don't use tea bags. We use the thing from the jar. I forgot what it's called.
rough sapphire
tea
cursive abyss
draw it out. lol
frozen thorn
prob garam masala. I don't drink tea tho, or I eat cake rusk with it
eternal wing
garam masala == best tea
gentle moss
tbh when you said tea instrument this is all that went through my head
eternal wing
draw it out. lol
@cursive abyss trying to bait us into a game of pictionary I see
gentle moss
cursive abyss
LOL
eternal wing
annnnd new otn name: bisks-tea-bass
look at that little guy, he looks so happy to have such a bad thing
I bet the action on that thing is soooo high
cursive abyss
with 3 strings, yes. lololol
gentle moss
hey, creativitea takes many forms
eternal wing
nice
cursive abyss
DON'T ENCOURAGE HIM D:<
gentle moss
man, too steep.
rough sapphire
this chat is just teaming with bad punners
cursive abyss
UGGH.
eternal wing
bad excuse me
rough sapphire
you heard me
gentle moss
lord, i'm getting deja brew from sunday
cursive abyss
-.-" i hope you all enjoy your par-tea
eternal wing
for me? of course, I am awful at this. but you cant group bisk in that. His puns never let me down
rough sapphire
this is just getting chaildish now
eternal wing
oh dammit!!! I just realized
Ive been bamboozled
I do not know what either of those are ๐ฆ
sand siren
What a stupid color scheme: dark blue on a black background. We need to fire the designers of Linux
rich moon
lol i had the same thing with putty
i just changed the colors
cuz that blue is impossible to read
frozen thorn
lmao I thought it was a star
rough sapphire
@sand siren unalias ls
also... nobody is getting paid to develop linux
how do you know?
it's not a product?
sonic river
@rough sapphire yes plenty of people are paid to contribute to Linux
rough sapphire
no, they are not
they are being paid to develop product X which happens to be using linux, thus (maybe) contributing upstream
sonic river
What
There are people whose professional activity involves contribution to Linux, not sure what you're going on about
sand siren
There are people whose professional activity involves contribution to Linux, not sure what you're going on about
@sonic river yeah, and they get paid well for that
sonic river
Open Source contribution does not always mean unpaid work
rough sapphire
:) i'm a kernel developer, i wish someone told me i was getting paid for it
nobody's job consists solely of developing linux, not even Linus' himself
sand siren
๐ i'm a kernel developer, i wish someone told me i was getting paid for it
@rough sapphire to do this, you need to get a job at a company that develops Linux, for example, canoncial
sonic river
Tho not sure if canonical is involved in Linux yea
rough sapphire
which is a product they actually sell
ubuntu uses linux
just like i highlighted before
mild abyss
What a stupid color scheme: dark blue on a black background. We need to fire the designers of Linux
@sand siren what that
rough sapphire
yes, contributions to ubuntu sometimes end up in the mainline kernel
but that doesn't mean that it's someone's job to develop the linux kernel
mild abyss
๐ i'm a kernel developer, i wish someone told me i was getting paid for it
@rough sapphire ooooh cool ๐ฎ
rough sapphire
i've only worked on implementing support for some pretty obscure hardware
nothing special
gentle moss
Do you want to be part of the team delivering custom Linux kernels for the most popular operating system in many of the world's largest clouds?
Building new kernels for existing and new Canonical products
quick ledge
What a stupid color scheme: dark blue on a black background. We need to fire the designers of Linux
@sand siren I'd like to interject for a moment....
The terminal color scheme has nothing to do with linux, the kernel.
The default scheme is set by your distro or terminal.
You can change it to a different color scheme or profile.
google "how to change the theme of {name of your terminal emulator}" if you are not sure on how to do that.
rough sapphire
How do you guys remove EXIF data?
solid pollen
pyexif can do that
strong valley
quick ledge
That's the mythbuster dude, right?
#ot1-perplexing-regexing message
never heard of "trunk" before ๐ค
guess it has something to do with roads
cosmic lotus
I thinks it like root, similar with trees
topaz aurora
@sand goblet Cool
quick ledge
just noticed gdude set it as root
topaz aurora
trunk is a nice default
undone berry
Trunk makes sense to me because you're branching of off the trunk. I like the metaphor
cosmic lotus
they haven't changed the default branch name?
topaz aurora
Most of my "serious" projects use stable/develop
solid pollen
I use main because it is pretty close to master ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Why do you have to wait 10 f*cking minutes before sending a message in the math discord
edgy crest
yeah, it actually slowed my browsing
solid pollen
Good lord, people are now doing DNS benchmarks
sonic river
@sand goblet hehe i randomly found you on github
sonic river
yeah but it's cooler if it's through github issues 
sand goblet
I get around, I guess
lofty dirge
ivory ember
Has anyone tried Da Vinci Resolve 16 here?
I wanted to know how much space it took on your computer and how it performs on low ram (like 4gb)
stark prawn
I mean, isn't one of the steps you take during installing your os benching the latency to the repo mirros
graceful basin
@ancient stream that one is less about programming languages and more about the math, afaik nowadays that kind of stuff is done in python and C++ with GPU programming
ancient stream
Ah well nifty
wooden silo
You would probably want to do modeling in a quick and easy language like Python and implement the finished solution in a fast language like C++ or Rust.
rough sapphire
Hi
ancient stream
I just wish I could make one of current ai implimentations run in their voice
sand siren
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/20/tech/doj-google-antitrust-case/index.html
@lofty dirge lol, there should be apple with their app store
past charm
does anyone have a python project idea?
past charm
I also think Trump will Lose
ancient stream
Personally I liked Obama, made it legal nation wide for my wife and I to marry. Plus the other good things he did
quick bay
love is love @ancient stream
ancient stream
Yeppers!
Does anyone have recomendations for desktop speakers that use optical instead of aux?
sand siren
there is no big difference between them
ancient stream
Every single aux connection speakers I've owned, they always end up degrading after unplugging them a few times and then I have to make sure its in the exact right position for both channels to work
sand siren
after unplugging them a few times
didn't you put them in and forget them?
because I don't pull out the computer speaker cable that often
and with such cable lengths, there are practically no differences between optics and aux
ancient stream
I redid the wiring twice and moved my desk a couple times so it has been unplugged and plugged in multiple times
sand siren
that is very strange
ancient stream
may just just get a soundbar instead
buoyant pendant
thoughts on the 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS?
ancient stream
The firebomb red with white racing strips is nice. I would go with wider wheels in the rear personally. And since it's a muscle car, a cherry bomb muffler or even dual exhaust. Though I think it would look better in purple with green racing stripes
high verge
i like this exchange
ancient stream
White walls are nice and look good but unless you want to clean them often I wouldn't use them. But that's because I don't care for white. Shows so much dirt lol
buoyant pendant
fair enough
ancient stream
But that's my opinion of course lol
ancient stream
Man, growing up and having a dad who is a mechanic is nice xD
Green and purple. :P
buoyant pendant
looking at it would be cool ๐ but driving it would cause too much attention for me
ancient stream
But again that's me, and only because those are my colors lol
You really want attention? Toss in a custom horn rigged to a separate button so you can trigger it and only it if you wanted :)
buoyant pendant
if only i could buy one for like 15-25k instead of 50k+ ๐ฆ
frozen thorn
I like Honda S2000
ancient stream
Don't forget a nice audio system with dual subs in the back and a nice amplifier too
frozen thorn
or Mustang Cobra (Terminator maybe?) like 2000+ for that price
ancient stream
I had a chance to get a Mustang Mach 1 for 1000 but never was able to get it because I didn't have enough. The car needed work but I would have loved it
I was 16 and the guy that had it didn't want to fix the issues. The body was damn near perfect.
buoyant pendant
how much is the price of fixing up a car made around 1970?
ancient stream
Depends
If you do it yourself, it could be cheap. If you can source the parts for a good price.
buoyant pendant
lets assume its in semi running condition but the body and details are messed up
like a typical crash lol
frozen thorn
so replace body parts and details? Well, that depends how the frame/fender are damaged
ancient stream
Well depending on how bad the body is you would need to possibly repaint it all. Which would mean sanding down to bare metal, fixing any rust spots. Primer coat, powder coat and paint. And sealant
Which would require a garage or workspace that is extremely clean
buoyant pendant
what about bent/missing parts, how hard are those to source?
ancient stream
A body shop can fix them probably. Depending on what parts are missing.
eternal wing
You should install a train horn.
buoyant pendant
currently in the process of building a new garage to put a hydraulic lift in, so at least in the beginning it would be clean haha
eternal wing
I had a 1968 mustang.
It was a lot of work haha
frozen thorn
Dynacorn (Complete Body Shell) for Mustang Fastback 1970 are $18k
frozen thorn
lol
eternal wing
What is being discussed? Sorry just popped in
buoyant pendant
the cost of fixing up a ponycar made around 1970
frozen thorn
Oops, thought we were talking abotu 1970 mustang.
buoyant pendant
compared to just buying a working one
so if you dont mind me asking, what did you pay for your mustang?
eternal wing
Oh, it depends.
Mine ran well, so all the body work was optional.
I put in about 1k, but the engine was recently rebuilt before I got it
frozen thorn
Mach 03 is cool lol. What's the insurance like?
ancient stream
You can easily sink 15k+ into restoring it
eternal wing
Buying a working one will always be cheaper most likely
It would have cost me about 15k plus the 3k I bought it for yo get it in decent condition
And I could have bought a restored one for 8k
ancient stream
So really unless you have 10 grand sitting around extra, it would be smarter to buy one working and ready
frozen thorn
prob more than 10 grand
eternal wing
It is for fun. Not for economics
ancient stream
Don't want to get half into a project and run out of cash
buoyant pendant
can you find a car for 10k in good condition?
eternal wing
can you find a car for 10k in good condition?
@buoyant pendant yes, easily
buoyant pendant
whenever i look online they are all 50-60k and up!
eternal wing
Nah, depends where you are.
frozen thorn
That reminds me that my friend's friend bought mustang or smth for 8k and spent 13k fixing. Still does not run, rip
eternal wing
$10k would get you a restored 1968 mustang
buoyant pendant
where?!
ancient stream
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/824701606/overview/ bam just found one ๐
ah crap forgot it auto detects city, oh well
frozen thorn
even better. Buy one for 5k and save 5k haha
buoyant pendant
oh and as a former mustang driver, how is driving it? does it cause a lot of problems?
frozen thorn
5k can buy you a reliable car
eternal wing
I found one for 8k in Nevada, totally restored 1970. Brand new 5.0 engine
ancient stream
To be fair, that car does have 69k miles (nice) thats a bit high to me
frozen thorn
that's more like 2k-4k. Depending on the brand
buoyant pendant
i learned driving manual but have been driving automatic ever since getting my license, not sure if that playes a large role in driving experience
frozen thorn
True
ancient stream
Most miles a car ever had I bought was 220k on my first car. But I paid 150 for it lol
and it lasted me 40k miles
frozen thorn
I bought my honda 2002 for $2000 at 126k miles
eternal wing
Meh, manual automatic == same skillz for the most part
frozen thorn
Still have it today. At 133k miles
ancient stream
Manual is the way to go
eternal wing
Manual is preferred xD
buoyant pendant
but you dont even have to shift with a automatic! no skill involved at all
cyan turret
I got a manual 2007 ford focus with 200k miles. Paid $2000 for it and its still going. Its not perfect but still good
ancient stream
I was forced to learn it in a day lol
When I wrecked my car, my landlord let me use his beetle that was manual, until I got my new car
eternal wing
I mean, your driving skill is not effected. You just get to flex to people that you drive manual with a stick shift
I drive stick btw
frozen thorn
Hey lord. What's the insurance like for Mach 03 at 24+ years old?
eternal wing
A lot
buoyant pendant
but @eternal wing how is it actually driving the car? do you have to deal with weird stuff?
ancient stream
sports cars are ALWAYS more expensive
eternal wing
I think its like $250 a month... "high performance sports car" LOL
eternal wing
I haaaate driving stick in California traffic.
But overall I obv prefer it
ancient stream
I'm actually kinda lucky to be paying 107 for full coverage with GAP on a 2017
frozen thorn
Wow that's not bad
eternal wing
Niiice, that's pretty good though
ancient stream
and she is on it too
eternal wing
Lol, tell her to level up faster.
frozen thorn
$80 a month for liabilty on 2002 Honda
eternal wing
I feel old too 
frozen thorn
20 > 25 > 30 here lol
ancient stream
And sometimes I honestly feel kinda bad and lost friends because they said shit. I met her when she was 17, and had no plans on dating her at all. But she kept bugging me 2 months before she turned 18, I still wouldn't but gave in after she turned 18 x.x
Its a super long story XD
frozen thorn
I remembered a guy that's 18 years old on Youtube. He bought brand-new hellcat with a loan of $60k+ and 20% interest rate
eternal wing
I would like a hellcat ๐
quick bay
20% im 15 and know never to buy something with a 20% intrest
frozen thorn
Me too, but insurance and price are not worth it
ancient stream
hellcat? Only hellcat I know of is the USA Hellcat Tank Destroyer
eternal wing
Lol, I was two years younger than my ex and people gave us alllll the shit for it
frozen thorn
And I'll never buy anything with interest rate lmao + car payments
ancient stream
Ya but Lord, she is 9 years younger than me >.>
Dang a m18 Hellcat is onlky 55k unit cost now.. I kinda want one
frozen thorn
not reliable lol. Maybe 5 years? Tho I'm not a sport car guys
ancient stream
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/M18_hellcat_side.jpg/1920px-M18_hellcat_side.jpg who wouldn't want this?
frozen thorn
Lmao
buoyant pendant
btw, if one of you stumbles across a ford mustand 1967-70 or a chevelle ss for a reasonable price let me know! i would looove to drive them โค๏ธ
frozen thorn
1970 camaro for 20k here
ancient stream
I found Chevelles for like 50k lol
ancient stream
frozen thorn
1970 Corvette Stingray - $22,000 - rebuilt at 105k miles
ancient stream
nice price too
buoyant pendant
ngl dont really like the baby blue
frozen thorn
What would your insurance be like if you bought one?
ancient stream
depends on age, state, coverage wanted etc..
tempted to ask the bank for a loan to get an m18 now..
frozen thorn
ngl a loan is no-no in my book
buoyant pendant
the only thing is, the newer ford mustangs also look pretty good and probably run better than the 1970-ish ones... and they are cheaper
frozen thorn
Yeah I'd prefer newer ford mustangs
buoyant pendant
like a 2015 mustang cupe looks prettty good to me
frozen thorn
lmao I always imagine myself leaving driveway in a mustang
again it's a want not a need
buoyant pendant
yeah
high sentinel
does anyone know what language this is?
high verge
apps script perhaps
jagged fog
does everyone ping only pings online members?
young shoal
everyone
jagged fog
but I just did that and it seems it only pinged members that are online
undone berry
it should do everyone - @here is for online members
jagged fog
oke I'll trust you more than I trust @robust vector 
robust vector
rough sapphire
Nani
calm dawn
If there were a processor built on the cpython virtual machine's architecture (totally not a side project that I'm trying to start) that could perform native python execution at about the speed of a raspberry pi 3b and an operating system developed for it, how fast would it be taken up if at all?
the processor in theoretical question would be literally incapable of anything ctypes and would need most builtins for things like files rewritten in pure python
but theoretically it could execute python at the rate a raspi executes its own bytecodes
terse sluice
i guess i'm on f1re
eternal wing
oh no, r u ok bro
terse sluice
terse sluice
yes lol
eternal wing
nice
terse sluice
roomie is pretty great
calm dawn
im curious what is up with the *gurkan usernames?
calm dawn
not planning to
terse sluice
literally
calm dawn
ok then
eternal wing
yeah, dont join this nonsense
terse sluice
calm dawn
oh dear goodness
eternal wing
or do join, we appreciate it ๐
terse sluice
me too
calm dawn
yall cucumbers do what you will i'll watch from back here
calm dawn
๐คฆโโ๏ธ
terse sluice
i have never approved
calm dawn
does joe ever go to sleep? I always see him as online
eternal wing
This is approval in my heart
terse sluice
have fun
terse sluice
eternal wing
Im not canadian today.
terse sluice
i'm always canadian now.
eternal wing
luckyyyyy
are you gonna be f1re now again?This is bothering me xD and lemon changed back already haha
eternal wing
Ah, much better
eternal wing
LOL... frantic screaming "DENNIS"
terse sluice
lolol
eternal wing
this is somehow worse
honest star
imposter!
calm dawn
yes
honest star
<_<
calm dawn
'I diagnose you with sus'
eternal wing
!purge helpers
calm dawn
what?
eternal wing
yellow is sus
terse sluice
lol
eternal wing
get all the yellow out xD LOL
eternal wing
nedbat is a helper now lel
honest star
his py community outranks his helper status
honest star
gotta get myself back to a better color...
eternal wing
yeah, the green one is really nice tbh
honest star
I think the only option I have is to make something so awesome that the wider python community uses that I can get the python community status
honest star
I feel like I'd actually have to learn and know regex for that though
eternal wing
hmmmm, now im brainstorming easiest ways to get such roles ๐ค
I shall make gurkult an epic community!
honest star
I just literally have never learned regex besides the basic [a-Z] or what have you
terse sluice
wooo this is going to charge my phone, laptop, and portable charger
honest star
I've looked through some of the @royal lake code and there's stuff like regex groups and looking forward and backwards @_@
oooh nice
terse sluice
lol
61 watts of power in 2in x 2 x 1.5in cube
well, that's not a cube
rectangular prism i guess lol
eternal wing
I need to sit down and really learn regex as well. In fact, this convo may be enough to motivate me
terse sluice
this was quite the motivating conversation, eh?
calm dawn
The only regex I really know is * and ?
terse sluice
lol
calm dawn
ooh I need a regex cheat sheet to learn off of
young shoal
i now have like a 10 yr old thinkpad, how do i linux
mild abyss
so i have a problem
young shoal
i have no idea, i've never touched linux before
calm dawn
@young shoal you may want to ask the linux discord for any details, but I recommend getting an ubuntu iso from the ubuntu website, burning it to a usb with rufus and booting the latptop from it
mild abyss
my laptop screen wont... get brighter and it is too dark i cant see anything. i just got lucky i dragged the settings to the other monitor... and was able to make the other monitor a replica of the laptop screen
terse sluice
ubuntu is a good starting distro
young shoal
currently the laptop has windows 10 on it
calm dawn
if its a slow slow sloooow laptop ubuntu is the best thing for it
terse sluice
arch would be the best thing for it
young shoal
no just linux
mild abyss
arch imo anyway
terse sluice
arch would take significantly less resources than ubuntu
calm dawn
linux is a kernel on which different distributions are built
terse sluice
if just linux, then it should be fairly simple
mild abyss
if you are lazy just install an arch based distro like manjaro
terse sluice
manjaro is great
don't have to go through the headache of setting up arch, but still get a lot of the benefits
mild abyss
mild abyss
manjaro is stable too because it tests the updates first before releasing it
terse sluice
and the rolling updates are nice
terse sluice
the AUR (arch user repositories) and package management is probably the best part of manjaro
mild abyss
also the new linux kernel is so good
i mean it aint have new features but it is a solid update
hollow lance
what's the difference between the new kernel and the previous one
terse sluice
5.8?
mild abyss
5.9.1
terse sluice
oh, experimental for me
mild abyss
it was released yesterday
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/linux-kernel-5-9-most-important-features-and-how-to-install-it/
it aint experimental anymore :3
terse sluice
ah yes, just needed to do yay -Sy
now i see the update
nice nice, i'll install this later
hollow lance
that article says it's not really that different though apart from some performance improvements for tech nerds
terse sluice
you sure it's not graphics drivers?
mild abyss
but i can see the windows and the discord app when i light it with my flashlight
yeah i am surr
because the external monitor is fine
hollow lance
i hear if you hit the screen with a hammer it works better
young shoal
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x200/ it's this laptop
young shoal
there's no trackpad
terse sluice
what
young shoal
there's only a nub
hollow lance
mild abyss
thats old
terse sluice
okay, maybe you want arch lol
mild abyss
yesh
young shoal
mild abyss
fml
mild abyss
imma ask my cousin to let me have the monitor
cause i wont be able to do college stuff
terse sluice
arch is probably way too difficult to install and setup, especially if you don't know anything about linux
mild abyss
i think manjaro is fine to run on that thing
young shoal
my dad: "you'll get a real laptop for college"
terse sluice
xfce is probably fine to run on it
mild abyss
yeah
terse sluice
what DE did you get?
mild abyss
kde?
terse sluice
i like chicken
young shoal
it's not that bad, 2.35 GHz cpu, 4 Gb ram
mild abyss
yeah that is fine
terse sluice
oh okay
young shoal
DDR3 ๐คข
mild abyss
we have the same specs psvm
terse sluice
that's plenty
mild abyss
except the ddr4 part
terse sluice
how many cores?
mild abyss
uhm mhhm
young shoal
so the laptop isn't even that bad
young shoal
probably terrible, it's old
terse sluice
just wipe it and you'll be fine lol
mild abyss
it will run i hope. maybe a de such as lxqt, lxde or xfce is fine
young shoal
yeah i got xfce
mild abyss
you downloaded the minimal or the full iso?
young shoal
full
terse sluice
i recommend minimal
terse sluice
not sure how happy your laptop would be running kde
young shoal
like, what's the difference
terse sluice
a basic overview is kde is much more customizable, but takes a bit more resources
xfce is much less customizable, but takes a bit less resources
mild abyss
ram usage between them dont have much of a difference but i based that benchmark from last year
dunno about that now
terse sluice
tbh, i've used both xfce and kde and i don't really notice a performance difference
young shoal
sounds like i should use kde?
young shoal
i mean, idk anything
mild abyss
you can try. if it aint for you then go for xfce
terse sluice
yeah
mild abyss
after that you need to tweak your vm swappiness
terse sluice
vm swappiness? lol
mild abyss
but since your drives are slower than ram, better use ram all the way
terse sluice
meh, i usually have a lot of programs open
i think i'll leave it as is
unless i get more ram lol
i think i allocated 24gb of swap, which is kind of overkill, but whatever
1.5x my ram
mild abyss
but it is an ssd right?
terse sluice
yeah
mild abyss
ah no wonder. it wont be a problem
terse sluice
samsung nvme 970 or something
mild abyss
unless it is a spinning one
scenic blaze
What's kde in this context?
tbh, i've used both xfce and kde and i don't really notice a performance difference
mild abyss
KDE plasma
scenic blaze
The only KDE I know is kernel density estimate
mild abyss
oh noes
scenic blaze
It's a continuous probability density curve of observations in a dataset
mild abyss
my brain just pooped by reading that
undone berry
KDE is a desktop environment for Linux
You can think of it like the look/flavour
for example the default desktop environment on Ubuntu is Gnome (but you have Kubuntu which is the same OS, but a different desktop environment with a different look)
terse sluice
kubuntu was so broken for me when i tried it
mild abyss
KDE neon? i think KDE neon is fine af
time to watch some netflix
i have been deprived of entertainment
scenic blaze
Oh, okay
Yeah, I only learned about KDE the other day so I was surprised people were talking about it
I got all excited
frozen thorn
So I needed a logo for my domain. Maybe letters and color. I realized my domain name's abbreviation can be GTR. lol
terse sluice
lol
frozen thorn
for starters lol
terse sluice
i made mine
frozen thorn
Ya ik
terse sluice
not bad though
young shoal
why does it take so long for stuff to download ๐
young shoal
internet bad
terse sluice
oof
mild abyss
kill the internet
frozen thorn
what am i doing. I have math exam tomorrow
mild abyss
what am i doing. I have math exam tomorrow
@frozen thorn same. mine is, i have so many assignments to do now
ancient stream
F1re, did you stop drop and roll?
terse sluice
just let it burn
frozen thorn
I don't like Linkedin assessments
eternal wing
fire wants to let something burn, big surprise
frozen thorn
Hmm. My domain DNS isn't working again
eternal wing
what services you using?
frozen thorn
pages github and namecheap DNS setting
eternal wing
Idk what could change in that setup to make it not work LOL
eternal wing
hmmmmm
frozen thorn
I only changed TTL to 30 minutes and back to automatic. It stopped working since. Weird
frozen thorn
still won't let me do it lol
it looks like orgname.github.io@domainname
Just like github published page domain
also orgname.github.io worked fine before. Must be something else
Oh I got it
I had to set custom domain in github settings. Weird that it worked without, before.
young shoal
bruh. the USB was partitioned weirdly, and windows only saw 4MB out of 4GB
@terse sluice lol
mild abyss
@young shoal yeah that is normal and weird. did you look at your flash drive in the disk partition manager in windows?
young shoal
how did i what
mild abyss
you used rufus or etcher?
young shoal
rufus
edgy crest
@young shoal switching to linux? 
frozen thorn
time to nuke windows
edgy crest
young shoal
not yet, just on an old laptop to get used to it etc
young shoal
kde
quick ledge
bruh. the USB was partitioned weirdly, and windows only saw 4MB out of 4GB
@young shoal that is because the linux stuff is in anext4partition and windows can't read it
frozen thorn
oh won't it run too hot?
young shoal
hmmm
quick ledge
did you try booting it?
young shoal
yeah
frozen thorn
hmm lemme find a link
actually found this in my history
sudo pacman -Syuu
sudo pacman -S xfce4 xfce4-goodies network-manager-applet'
whoops its not kde
quick ledge
yeah
@young shoal were you replying to me?
young shoal
yeah
quick ledge
did it boot?
young shoal
no
frozen thorn
here https://linuxhint.com/install_kde_manjaro_linux/ @edgy crest
edgy crest
i am on xfce
young shoal
nothing
frozen thorn
Method 2
If you installed any other version of Manjaro Linux, then you have to follow these steps for enjoying the smoothness of KDE Plasma.At first, install the core of KDE Plasma โ
like 2-3 commands and you're good to go
frozen thorn
idk if it's actually dual boot lol
When I went on xfce. I have the same folders and stuff from kde
rich moon
duo booting two linux distros seems weird
edgy crest
hum nvm, not worth it
frozen thorn
y not lol
rich moon
duo booting windows and linux messes up my computers time
i have to shut down then turn on
if i restart my time goes weird
quick ledge
nvm, is there a way to do it without dual boot
@edgy crest yes
you can choose the DE at the login screen
frozen thorn
what no password or anything?
edgy crest
i told it not to ask me for login everytime on install
thats why
tho i get a login screen if my laptop is on temp sleep and i turn it on
frozen thorn
what happens when you shutdown and turn it on?
edgy crest
what happens when you shutdown and turn it on?
@frozen thorn i directly get in my desktop
quick ledge
that is weird.
floral viper
Nah he configured it to do so
edgy crest
^
frozen thorn
I wonder what happens when you do the same I did. Which desktop would it choose?
floral viper
tad bit unsafe, but not weird
In any case, most linux dists allow you to chose UI during login, so if you wanna try different ones you have to re-enable password login
edgy crest
how do i do that
floral viper
No idea lol
edgy crest
rip
floral viper
I stick to debian dists
frozen thorn
I think it's grub menu config
quick ledge
idts
frozen thorn
I changed it for background img on login
frozen thorn
grub2 probably?
quick ledge
it has to be in some system settings
rough sapphire
just uncheck that don't ask password for login
edgy crest
i checked that on the install, where do i uncheck it
frozen thorn
So grub isn't UI?
floral viper
In debian based dists it is a system setting option in system settings
no grub is a bootloader that is responsible for handling booting the linux os
it got nothing to do with what ui the os uses
frozen thorn
lol I changed the background image using /etc/default/grub
or there's a thing called grub customizer
quick ledge
i checked that on the install, where do i uncheck it
@edgy crest search "settings" in your application menu/ start menu
frozen thorn
I'm not saying that I'm right or wrong. Idk what' it's called for the login screen
quick ledge
lol I changed the background image using
/etc/default/grub
@frozen thorn Im guessing you only changed the background of grub
frozen thorn
I'm not talking about password. Just asking what is the Ui thing of login screen called
edgy crest
i think i found the gui to enable login
rough sapphire
search in "accounts" if your settings has one
edgy crest
oh
frozen thorn
It's called grub screen, grub menu, whatever
rough sapphire
its like the boot menu what you customized
quick ledge
It's called grub screen, grub menu, whatever
@frozen thorn GRUB menu is where you choose the OS to boot
after that is booted, you are presented to the login screen where you sign in to your user account
And I believe something called "login manager" manages the login screen
edgy crest
i clicked the run login, and i think thats what decides to do that?
quick ledge
nah, you don't need to click on "run login"
floral viper
You should be able to find something like this in your systems settings @edgy crest
disable that and you should be good to go
edgy crest
lemme see
frozen thorn
Yep. System Settings > User Manager on Manjaro
quick ledge
it will obviously not look the same for you
edgy crest
i looked everywhere
quick ledge
it's been a long while since I used XFCE
edgy crest
maybe display chooser on login?
frozen thorn
I don't think so. Mine is not checked
edgy crest
oh
quick ledge
frozen thorn
lol I think I accidently deleted search icon on xfce
quick ledge
it seems that they made the settings less accessible
edgy crest
yeah they did
floral viper
booo
quick ledge
do the opposite of what they said
sudo leafpad /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
and remove this line:
autologin-user=YourDesiredAutoLoginUserName
edgy crest
like i am prompted for password for every single thing, opening my browser, using sudo
mild abyss
whats the issue?
floral viper
woah that's a tedius way to disable that ๐
edgy crest
i want my pc to ask for login on startup
frozen thorn
just need to remove autologin he don't have login screen
mild abyss
like i am prompted for password for every single thing, opening my browser, using sudo
@edgy crest wtf
how did that happen?
frozen thorn
true. sudo asks for password ^
quick ledge
like i am prompted for password for every single thing, opening my browser, using sudo
@edgy crest even for opening your browser?
mild abyss
sudo always need password
edgy crest
not for everytime, like the first time on boot
quick ledge
That's painful man
floral viper
If you run your browser in elevated mode using sudo it is easier for people to hack you
don't do it
only use sudo for the things you absolutely have to
edgy crest
uh no i just click it
quick ledge
nah, saitama isn't running it on sudo
edgy crest
like when i boot my pc, and if i run my browser for the first time, it asks me for default keyring, then i can open my browser everytime
quick ledge
Ig it's because he hasn't technically confirmed that the user is him by typing a pasword at login, but idk
mild abyss
you know what sucks? the LED of my laptop screen wont light up xD
floral viper
In my experience the os only really ask for your password if you try to run things in elevated mode (this is the case on debian based dists)
frozen thorn
also try screenshot while hooked to external monitor
quick ledge
In my experience the os only really ask for your password if you try to run things in elevated mode (this is the case on debian based dists)
@floral viper it seems like he has hooked up his apps with a keyring
so he needs to unlock it each time
floral viper
right, ok
mild abyss
mhm
edgy crest
not each time
mild abyss
idk how he did that though
edgy crest
only first time
mild abyss
what was the last thing you did SaiTama before it happened?
edgy crest
well when i was setting up my browser it told me to set a key ring
edgy crest
like syncing my email etc
mild abyss
ha?
frozen thorn
edgy crest
ahh nvm this
mild abyss
i see
quick ledge
hmm, probably for saving your passwords or something
frozen thorn
Yeah it's keyring
edgy crest
i need a login prompt thats it
quick ledge
sudo leafpad /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
frozen thorn
If you have chrome lol
edgy crest
ok i will try that
mild abyss
@quick ledge leafpad is another editor?
frozen thorn
why not nano?
quick ledge
i copy pasted from the stackoverflow thread I posted above
frozen thorn
anyways xfce is kinda annoying. I'm gonna switch back to kde
edgy crest
see i mean this, asks for password every time i use sudo
frozen thorn
that's normal lol
quick ledge
see i mean this, asks for password every time i use sudo
@edgy crest that is normal
edgy crest
ah ok
edgy crest
meh
quick ledge
use nano
frozen thorn
just use nano
quick ledge
then
mild abyss
use nano
edgy crest
ok
frozen thorn
lmao
edgy crest
frozen thorn
and remove this line:
autologin-user=YourDesiredAutoLoginUserName
quick ledge
search for autologin-use
edgy crest
use or user
quick ledge
user*
edgy crest
ah ok
frozen thorn
Delete it then Ctrl+x to save and exit
edgy crest
found it
frozen thorn
lol that's good
quick ledge
no wait
edgy crest
so i just remove all of it?
quick ledge
that's just a comment
edgy crest
ok
quick ledge
i think
edgy crest
hmm
frozen thorn
Welp
edgy crest
uh
mild abyss
quick ledge
show the entire line
quick ledge
is there a # at the beginning of the line?
edgy crest
theres a # at the beginning of every single line
mild abyss
so that means
quick ledge
so that's a comment
frozen thorn
So lightdm config is like full of options?
frozen thorn
oh well. the problem is somewhere else
quick ledge
search for the second occurance of autologin-user
frozen thorn
it sucks lol
edgy crest
ok
mild abyss
it shocks
edgy crest
OHH FOUND IT, AND ITS NOT COMMENTED
frozen thorn
Maybe it doesn't have a password? Oh niceee
quick ledge
REMOVE THAT S OF A B
mild abyss
edgy crest
see
frozen thorn
lmao that's sneaky
mild abyss
thats sneaky af
frozen thorn
why not comment too?
edgy crest
can i just comment it
frozen thorn
Yeah
edgy crest
yeah i will just comment it
edgy crest
ok so all good?
quick ledge
yeah, ig
frozen thorn
Good. Do Ctrl+x to save and exit
edgy crest
dont u do ctrl + o first
digital oracle
ohh is that nano
quick ledge
ctrl x will prompt you to save, so np
edgy crest
oohk
frozen thorn
and ctrl+o is hard to remember ngl
but I do remember it
So you have chrome right? It asks for a keyring/password?
edgy crest
what do i do here
mild abyss
press enter
frozen thorn
Yep
edgy crest
ok
quick ledge
enter
mild abyss
Ontor
edgy crest
ok done, ama try rebooting now
frozen thorn
gl
mild abyss
GOOlook
quick ledge
good luck
edgy crest
also, i dont wanna remove the chromium asking me for key ring
frozen thorn
Oh okay
quick ledge
ok
digital oracle
i'd prefer vim
twilit hull
Xed