44 servers
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
narrow pecan
vapid kernel
32 servers
narrow pecan
But I don’t really use many of them. It’s a lot of support servers, language specific servers and such that are just nice to have, even though I don’t frequent them
vapid kernel
is there a limit?
narrow pecan
100 iirc
narrow pecan
Don’t think so
plucky grotto
100!!!!
and I hate it
wish I could join more
nothing hurts more than having to leave servers
maybe one day, I'll have to leave this one too
woeful cipher
terse sluice
lol, impersonation is an actual issue
ohh i know what to do
!star 576100587494440971 1d staff impersonation
royal lakeBOT
rough sapphire
johnny cash lol
quaint rivet
superstarified?
young shoal
isn't that an infraction lol
austere forum
isn't that an infraction lol
@young shoal what isinfraction?
rough sapphire
@young shoal what is
infraction?
@austere forum an infraction is like a prize.. it shows how badass you are
simple sand
lol
austere forum
@austere forum an infraction is like a prize.. it shows how badass you are
@rough sapphire OOF
rough sapphire
collect them today
austere forum
which game ?
rough sapphire
The game of life
austere forum
interesting
austere forum
i first got a completely different idea.... but okay
rough sapphire
powershell, eclipse, notepad++, windows media player?
looks like you need to clean up lol
maybe he has 32gb ram 
btw, use qwant instead of google
I don't understand why he's using discord on private lol
alts
alts alts alts
omg.. alert the mods
nah lol its just my hunch
it seems like the best explanation
austere forum
maybe he has 32gb ram
@rough sapphire i have 8gb of ram(imao)
rough sapphire
you have so much bloatware.. look at it.. anaconda.. spyder..
austere forum
you have so much bloatware.. look at it.. anaconda.. spyder..
@rough sapphire i don't have spyder on the taskbar, but only anaconda navigator
austere forum
but I can see what you have.. welcome to the Matrix
@rough sapphire do you prefer chrome or edge ?
rough sapphire
I use chrome.. but sometimes use Brave
Edge.. I use to read PDFs..
Edge has a cool feature.. where you can read text in different accents
austere forum
I am incognito in edge
rough sapphire
yeah saw that
topaz nymph
i just block facebook and google in my system
rough sapphire
nice
austere forum
i just block facebook and google in my system
@topaz nymph why ?
rough sapphire
I block cookies.. with ghostery
topaz nymph
(my pc just blocks requests)
austere forum
(my pc just blocks requests)
@topaz nymph i smell antivirus software
topaz nymph
i use windows defender
austere forum
i use windows defender
@topaz nymph and ?
topaz nymph
nothing
halcyon mantle
https://youtu.be/63B-0LzLzRg&t=37
Listen to this if you need to calm down and relax while you code :)
quaint rivet
oh alright
Good luck anw
@eternal wing yo u ping me in case ur project comes on stream as well :))
I'm not actively watching it
rough sapphire
rough sapphire
Wait you can team up?
narrow pecan
@eternal wing and I were rivals
eternal wing
Rivals?! I was unaware lolol
eternal wing
Akarys is still in It though :D
narrow pecan
True true
rough sapphire
Is this related to making games in python?
quaint rivet
ohh
eternal wing
Also: I confused akarys and patryks teams lol
narrow pecan
Time to go study. See you
austere forum
Me: take up phone
@rough sapphire phone:battery is dead(imao)
rough sapphire
Nope
eternal wing
Oh, yeah. I just need to setup some docker stuff. A few people are interested in the site, so we need to actuslly figure things out, if you are interested in the project.@narrow pecan
narrow pecan
Awesome
eternal wing
The site can deploy any time, I was just working on CI/CD
quick ledge
cool
narrow pecan
Nice nice nice
eternal wing
We will need a gurkan meeting haha
quick ledge
kick them out
narrow pecan
I can’t :((
quick ledge
you can abuse the trust put on you as a helper
you can tell the mods that they are being bad boys
quaint rivet
just
narrow pecan
Like, I don’t have the permissions
narrow pecan
Not yet. Not yet
quaint rivet
it is supposed to be confidential after all
eternal wing
Not ever LOL
narrow pecan
It should be a PyDis thing for now
quaint rivet
Cults don't meet out in the open
eternal wing
This one does xD
narrow pecan
We do
quick ledge
we are an open source cult
narrow pecan
We’re a strange cult
eternal wing
We are always very open about our cultiness
narrow pecan
That should be our thing. An “open source cult”
eternal wing
That is genuinely our motto now
quaint rivet
cultiness
narrow pecan
Yess
eternal wing
Getting my full nitro benefits
narrow pecan
Hhaha dude
narrow pecan
Wut
quaint rivet
lmao
quick ledge
lol
eternal wing
Ghost == fav band == sweden
narrow pecan
Hmmmm
eternal wing
Idk, is the discriminator in bad taste? Lolol
narrow pecan
Either way, wanna hop into VC and I can stream creating the UI for https://gurkult.com for maybe 15 minutes or so?
eternal wing
Yeah, I can. I need to get coffee at eat breakfast real fast though
narrow pecan
I think something like Fisher#0060 would be cooler
eternal wing
Haha, that would be consistent
narrow pecan
Sure. How long should I expect that to take?
terse sluice
nice, 666
eternal wing
Give me 4 minutes and 53 seconds
ancient stream
wooo, y'all ready for "is it covid or a cold" season?
the temp is becoming amazing
austere forum
which season do you prefer ?
ancient stream
it was so nice driving with windows down at 60f
austere forum
i prefer winter
narrow pecan
Yeah, winter is nice as well
ancient stream
Until you gotta deal with powdery white crap
austere forum
Until you gotta deal with powdery white crap
@ancient stream i love cold
quaint rivet
ancient stream
Cold is fine, I hate snow
austere forum
i have only experienced snow twice in life
austere forum
i am southern part in africa, so it doesn't snow at all(in some places it does)
quaint rivet
oops
eternal wing
@narrow pecan TIME
narrow pecan
TIME
austere forum
is up
eternal wing
gurk squad
quaint rivet
Time is 11am now
eternal wing
no coffee though
quaint rivet
👀
austere forum
Time is 11am now
@quaint rivet 5:30 pm
ancient stream
Used to have to shovel every single day and the house was located in the snow belt, so we got snow every day basically and some days .33m
rough sapphire
9pm
eternal wing
I used to love shoveling snow as a kid.
As an adult, that is like a nightmare
rough sapphire
I will SEE SNOW IN FUTURE
wooden silo
@austere forum It's 5:30pm in southern africa?
austere forum
@austere forum It's 5:30pm in southern africa?
@wooden silo yes
wooden silo
Cool, we're in the same timezone.
eternal wing
are we doing a stream for ui?
rough sapphire
I will get out of this country
wooden silo
Except I'm in Sweden.
ancient stream
Exactly @eternal wing
wooden silo
Yeah
eternal wing
I think I knew that actually
austere forum
i'm asian
rough sapphire
pewdiepie swedish
austere forum
pewdiepie swedish
@rough sapphire we like swedish
quaint rivet
Oh dementati should join the gurkan squad then 👀
narrow pecan
We're all swedish
austere forum
not me
ancient stream
Swedish fish are good
austere forum
i'm asian(eventhough im in africa)
eternal wing
idk, their name is too iconic
swedish fish are the worst thing about sweden imo
(lol)
quick ledge
We are all secretly swedish inside
rough sapphire
I'm asian too 😔
austere forum
We are all secretly swedish inside
@quick ledge probably
narrow pecan
I haven't even tried swedish fish
rough sapphire
but I will get out of my country
austere forum
I'm asian too 😔
@rough sapphire you should be proud of that
wooden silo
Oh dementati should join the gurkan squad then 👀
@quaint rivet I'm good, thanks.
quaint rivet
@narrow pecan where is the stream I can't see it
rough sapphire
demantati == deGurkantati
quaint rivet
quick ledge
I'm good, thanks.
wannabe better?
wooden silo
Nope.
quick ledge
ok 😔
eternal wing
haha
narrow pecan
Right, let's go int into the VC
austere forum
anyone plays roblox ?
wooden silo
Epicurus teaches us to enjoy life, but not in excess.
rough sapphire
will it be a long one?
eternal wing
on ot vc?
narrow pecan
I probably just have 15 minutes or so
rough sapphire
there is ot vc?
austere forum
Epicurus teaches us to enjoy life, but not in excess.
@wooden silo what isEpicurus?
rough sapphire
I believe in socrates
austere forum
A Greek philosopher
@wooden silo oof, i can smell maths
ancient stream
.suggestion We need an OT channel for OT channels
wooden silo
@rough sapphire I believe Aristotle made him up.
Not all Greek philosophers were mathematicians.
round rose
!otn a socrates-is-not-real
quick ledge
.suggestion We need an OT channel for OT channels
OT voice channel?
the existing channel is an off-topic channel
austere forum
what does OT mean ?
graceful basin
OffTopic
austere forum
oh
ancient stream
Need a suggestion on which to get https://www.spirithalloween.com/product/halloween-costumes/costume-themes/plague-doctor/brown-plague-doctor-half-mask/pc/4742/c/4833/sc/5171/176004.uts
or
https://www.spirithalloween.com/product/halloween-costumes/costume-themes/plague-doctor/long-plague-doctor-half-mask/pc/4742/c/4833/sc/5171/215790.uts
low chasm
Hi
high verge
howdy
rough sapphire
Hi
honest star
awwww yeah, I get to one of my favorite activities, browse the adafruit website for neat sensors 
sand inlet
solid sorrel
Oh...
That changes things
Inexplicably, it still doesn't work with '
So I'll just use .format(cont.replace("\n", "\n"))
honest star
Urgh, I forgot how bad I am at putting together circuit diagrams
eternal wing
awwww yeah, I get to one of my favorite activities, browse the adafruit website for neat sensors
this is one of life's great joys
honest star
As is the case with half of my electronics projects, turns out all I really need is a 3-axis accelerometer, ble module, and a piezo disc thing
rough sapphire
ok
If I give you an object, placed on the table
Will you be able to tell all the force being applied on it ?
honest star
Like it's orientation and tilt based on how gravity is affecting it or the forces on it due to other objects placed on it?
rough sapphire
everything
atmospheric pressure
friction
gravity
....
honest star
pressure is easy with a $1 part to get the barometric pressure, orientation + tilt I can do with a 3-axis accelerometer or a 9-DoF chip. Friction will be a bit tougher, but I can probably try to get shearing force and depending on the materials back-calculate friction??
It also depends on which friction you need
rough sapphire
maybe not value but just class
how many forces are being applied
honest star
non-static forces will be easy with the 9DoF sensor. Static external forces will require a pressure/resistive pad to sense and measure the force
static internal you just calculate
high verge
you can't separate them into discrete forces
reaction force, air pressure, friction are all from particles repulsing or attracting each other
eternal wing
lol, I made a Gurkan store. This is not advertising, I just thought it was really funny.
narrow pecan
@frozen thorn this may interest you
rough sapphire
I'm trying to come up with an idea for a data model that is worth building a rest api for in django. I dont really feel passionate about any ideas right now but i still want to make something
so ive been looking at these http://www.databaseanswers.org/data_models/index.htm
honest star
Trying to pay my property tax should not be this difficult 🙃
young shoal
just don't pay em 😃
honest star
but it's on my todolist >_> So I have to get it done
young shoal
just delete it from the todolist 😃
honest star
but... but... that's illegal
young shoal
😃
honest star
Really it's me trying to get my property tax transferred to the right county because I moved last year and the taxes are lower in the new county >_>
young shoal
oooh nice
honest star
But the new county's online portal thing IS A PIECE OF SHIT
"Page Not Found"s E V E R Y W H E R E
because they can't get the right url string
I have to keep manually editing the url to get to the right place
eternal wing
but... but... that's illegal
when the meme gets too real
lofty dirge
katj, your overdue
soft violet
@honest star "Why are all these computer programmers and web developers paying lower taxes in our county? Sus!"
narrow pecan
when the meme gets too real
@eternal wing hahahaha yess, that was perfect
digital lantern
Ah yes, time to be a responsible Discord server owner
eternal wing
lol plz no
rough sapphire
spam @everyone through API call
probably good way to get ratelimited and get fucked
eternal wing
I dislike the words in that sentence
narrow pecan
Why?
eternal wing
Mac + chromebook == 🤢
narrow pecan
False
eternal wing
haha
eternal wing
I got that xD
narrow pecan
The Mac compensates for the terribleness of the chromebook
eternal wing
maybe thats the comparison you get... when interpreting python on a mac 🤮
narrow pecan
Hey, stop vomiting
eternal wing
sorry, food poisoning
jkjk
im also jk about mac, I just hate them xD
so I guess I'm not jk 🤔 but at the same time I am jk
royal lakeBOT
@narrow pecan :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
False
I would eval you so hard rn if I had eval perms
eternal wing
mild abyss
it is still trie
eternal wing
lololol
mild abyss
ture
eternal wing
he took it back
mild abyss
true
eternal wing
LOL
mild abyss
xD
eternal wing
he is purging
narrow pecan
Nothing happened here
eternal wing
we win
narrow pecan
SHush
narrow pecan
!e ```py
import best
print(best.os)
@narrow pecan :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
Mac
okkkk, I was here for that though
narrow pecan
It's true
eternal wing
so I know how your limited magics work
narrow pecan
What do you mean? This is real
narrow pecan
✨ real ✨
mild abyss
just remembered that apple hired white hackers to test the security of their devices
narrow pecan
That's what makes them the best.os
mild abyss
probably the best os but not the best in design
narrow pecan
How can mac not be the best design?
eternal wing
imagine
imagine needing to replace half the ram in every macbook over like 4 years old xD
narrow pecan
@eternal wing the best package should totally exist #bot-commands message
It doesn't (yet!)
frozen thorn
hm... I didn't replace anything in my macbook for 5-6 years.
eternal wing
cool, lets write the package
narrow pecan
Yeah, like for real
mild abyss
the best macbooks are around 2012-2015 according to mah apple friend
narrow pecan
I'll start the repo
eternal wing
they are built well haha, they just run hot.
We use macbooks at my school. They are refurbished and used heavily. But ram fails in about half of them
narrow pecan
It should jsut be the best things in different categories
eternal wing
im down, ive never packaged a module before
narrow pecan
That's a school MacBook. They're always terrible
frozen thorn
idk, I think 2015 is perfect year for macbook
narrow pecan
Me neither. It'll be fun to try
undone berry
Macbooks at my uni are also shit
eternal wing
best.os can literally return random.choice('unix', 'linux', 'windows') lol
mild abyss
gurkanpy
narrow pecan
I tried to
@eternal wing wanna have a look as well?
I think best seems to be free. Either way, we'll want to import it as best
Ah, no
eternal wing
bestpy then we can import as best
narrow pecan
Oo
eternal wing
add eyes in the hands, fixed
narrow pecan
eternal wing
ah, that is driving me insane
narrow pecan
We got it boys
quaint rivet
lol what's this
eternal wing
I dont want to see those emotes together ever again
cosmic lotus
Hello
quaint rivet
and we all know it is Linux, right
cosmic lotus
what's bestpy
quaint rivet
😎
narrow pecan
I just explained it hahah
@quaint rivet maybee, maybe not. We'll see when bestpy is launched
eternal wing
PRed
narrow pecan
Could you open an issue about it on the branding repo?
eternal wing
you want me to do it? lol
narrow pecan
eternal wing
sure
quaint rivet
yea
narrow pecan
And yeah, I always type these links by hand hahah
Anyone, and I’ll have a look. Make sure to motivate it in the issue
eternal wing
is this really an issue doe?
narrow pecan
Yeah
eternal wing
it is just that the emoji on left is a little blurry
narrow pecan
It’s a different shape as well
quaint rivet
no the left ok hand is fat
eternal wing
ohhh I see
eternal wing
i added example in issue
narrow pecan
Perfect
quaint rivet
yea
eternal wing
please do
quaint rivet
i Can't see the issue
eternal wing
https://github.com/python-discord/branding/issues/90 The markdown was overkill, but o well
cosmic lotus
lmao
eternal wing
lolol
needs a reason to be fixed.
Cant just be that I am mildly annoyed at something haha
just change your pfp and nickname and you are good
quaint rivet
Lmao
cosmic lotus
I didn't know that even exists
eternal wing
It feels so dirty to create an issue without labels
cosmic lotus
was it here this whole time
narrow pecan
It feels so dirty to create an issue without labels
@eternal wing I’ll fix the labels
eternal wing
ty xD
narrow pecan
It’s coming
cosmic lotus
quaint rivet
Oh no
cosmic lotus
wth thats so large
simple sand
@eternal wing how is your cult ?
simple sand
that's nice to hear
eternal wing
lol, ty for asking xD
quaint rivet
Fr?
narrow pecan
Yeah, and a site
eternal wing
you really did it LOL
simple sand
oh the leader is here
narrow pecan
we’re building the site atm
quaint rivet
for a while lol
eternal wing
I was jk, no one cares if you noticed the emoji was messed up xD
quaint rivet
I'm a gurkan under cover now
narrow pecan
I didn’t even recognize you
cosmic lotus
a store???
narrow pecan
Dude. Go back right now
quaint rivet
lmao
eternal wing
we have a redbubble
narrow pecan
Yeah, RedBubble
simple sand
that website contains only 2 words lol
narrow pecan
It does. We’re currently developing the DRF + React site
quaint rivet
refresh ur browser
tranquil orchid
eternal wing
oh
quaint rivet
it'll show u three words this time
tranquil orchid
hmmmmmmm
simple sand
<html>
<body>
<h1 style="color: green">Gurkult Headquarters</h1>
<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/59684171" style="text-decoration: none; color: white;">You are more skilled than most. you unlock the ability to support us</a>
</body>
</html>
refresh it
tranquil orchid
quaint rivet
yea
tranquil orchid
incredibly hidden
tranquil orchid
why do you hate yourself
narrow pecan
Hahah awesome
cosmic lotus
why
narrow pecan
A secret plug
eternal wing
it is on my server and I needed a parking page while we work on the real site
cosmic lotus
Lol I just pressed Tab
tranquil orchid
wait if i actually try to buy this is it even real lmao
narrow pecan
But @cosmic lotus and @tranquil orchid, wanna join the cult?
tranquil orchid
Later perhaps
narrow pecan
It’s very real
cosmic lotus
Ok what are the requirements
eternal wing
I am going to buy one of those stickers haha
narrow pecan
Alright
tranquil orchid
Blood sacrifice @cosmic lotus
simple sand
lol
eternal wing
Blood sacrifice @cosmic lotus
f***ing hell no
narrow pecan
We have one simple requirement: include gurkan in your name
eternal wing
lololol
cosmic lotus
Fuck I don't have blood
narrow pecan
👀
tranquil orchid
Who took it?
narrow pecan
I
simple sand
donated
eternal wing
I will probs buy at least 3 of those products
tranquil orchid
He donated all of it
simple sand
ye
cosmic lotus
My blood got turned into a delicious dish
simple sand
a living corpse lol
eternal wing
living dead girl
cosmic lotus
Walking Alive
tranquil orchid
You need to make something like that hackthebox login thing that you need to complete in order to join the cult
simple sand
@tranquil orchid have u done hack the box?
narrow pecan
Wait, you can be “KougamiGurkan”, which will resolve the war of the south
tranquil orchid
yeah i've seen that one as well
eternal wing
actually that would be cool, but we are an open source cult sadly
narrow pecan
True true
eternal wing
just add another honey pot lol
cosmic lotus
So what should my name be
eternal wing
you guys should check out /robots.txt 😉
simple sand
oh @narrow pecan isn't Xith in the group too?
eternal wing
SalamiGurkan is disgusting, so you should go with that
narrow pecan
Kind of. He’s looking for a good name
cosmic lotus
How aboutSalgurkanami
simple sand
@cosmic lotus not nami in your name, that thing disgusts me
narrow pecan
Yeah hahah
eternal wing
ok tomorrow I swear Ill work on the react site lol
cosmic lotus
Nope already done
eternal wing
I'll at least make docs
quaint rivet
Wait, you can be “KougamiGurkan”, which will resolve the war of the south
@narrow pecan noo I'm still Södergrukan, first of his name
simple sand
@eternal wing one guy in YT is making some stuff with react
cosmic lotus
What's gonna be added in the site?
simple sand
like Facebook, Insta, Amazon, Messenger
narrow pecan
Alrighty
simple sand
What's gonna be added in the site?
@cosmic lotus form?
eternal wing
we had an official gurkan meeting yesterday/today depending timezones to discuss
narrow pecan
The war sadly isn’t resolved then
Yep
And we designed part of the UI for the site
eternal wing
the soderwars continue
eternal wing
@narrow pecan we could maybe add the mock-ups to the repo in the readme? like just screenshots of them haha
quaint rivet
oww like the particle.js sort of thing?
eternal wing
our stack is gonna be react, postgres, docker, django, REST
eternal wing
im very down to have a cucumber canvas game as a feature somewhere LOL
cosmic lotus
im very down to have a cucumber canvas game as a feature somewhere LOL
YES
quaint rivet
hmm, I mean we won't make it difficult
rough sapphire
Why
eternal wing
@rough sapphire you would not understand, Gurkan heretic
quaint rivet
We're having a gurkan meeting rn
rough sapphire
....
eternal wing
tbh: i need to practice Ci/CD and the gurkult.com domain was cheap, that is why for me
and I need to brush up on react.
quaint rivet
Yeah I need to setup CI/CD for my personal projects as well
eternal wing
Im trying to figure it out LOL
I have the github actions sorta set, but I need to setup docker
quaint rivet
Hmm i can help with Docker
simple sand
is docker a language?
eternal wing
that would be cool.
I guess I need to upload the build to docker, then be able to run the image on my server and have the volume be accessible from apache
docker is a tool
simple sand
ohh
eternal wing
I guess? I do not know honestly
quaint rivet
Hmm ok wait
eternal wing
I need the build from the github action to be accessible on my server and have the server automatically update when the build is made on the github action. I think docker makes sense? still trying to learn how this all works
the action should build whenever a branch is merged to main
oh and if you want to contribute, I can add you as contributor
quaint rivet
Hmm idk how to connect the github docker image with server part yet
Hmm alright, I'll send u my username later
see if this helps
eternal wing
tyty, that probably will help
rough sapphire
yep
simple sand
let's wait for the other guy
latent scaffold
Love how I wasn't included
rough sapphire
Anyway @rain bone to say something is easy or hard u must research about it, because calling it out doesn't help and more if it's from your experience
latent scaffold
Well here's the thing though... They've said they went through multiple resources
which at that point gives you the kind of vibe that they weren't really attempting to comprehend them
simple sand
hmm
rough sapphire
offlimits: if you have a intellectual disability it will be harder to learn python of course but im not saying anyone does, I'm saying if you're interested and try as hard as you can to learn Python you will be able to learn it, if you know other languages you will be well able to learn python
coral void
When I was learning the go-to establishment was that people learn different, so there are different resources needed for different people
simple sand
it's not about harder, it's about how long they take understand the topic
rain bone
offlimits: if you have a intellectual disability it will be harder to learn python of course but im not saying anyone does, I'm saying if you're interested and try as hard as you can to learn Python you will be able to learn it, if you know other languages you will be well able to learn python
@rough sapphire there is something called quoting btw
rough sapphire
first, u need to focus, some people may get distracted easily and avoid the exercises
rain bone
e
rough sapphire
I'm not experienced with discord
simple sand
some people may put in the same hours as others who are ahead but still be behind
rough sapphire
no language is tough or easy. it is just the person's mindset and determination that makes a difference
rain bone
yeah, how much effort you put into it
latent scaffold
I just think that there's some sort of thinking error to read a bunch of resources and still not understand the simplest concepts
rough sapphire
True, but that's because they maybe didn't get the same help or they don't understand how to study, some people needs a way of telling them how to approach things, etc...
simple sand
Exactly
rough sapphire
it doesn't matter the effort, u must have a base, it's like climbing a tree when u are a fish
latent scaffold
I think it does matter the effort, though
simple sand
I just think that there's some sort of thinking error to read a bunch of resources and still not understand the simplest concepts
@latent scaffold What you think is simple might not be as simple as u think for others
rain bone
no base is nothing without effort
simple sand
ofc not
rain bone
unless you're born into the world of python, you will need effort
latent scaffold
@simple sand I'm not saying simple in general, I'm saying simplest relatively
relative to other Python concepts
rough sapphire
and a ton, I have been programming for almost 1 month python and it's kinda hard to grasp all the concepts
simple sand
I don't think anyone knows all of python
rain bone
I learn Python in school
rough sapphire
So u got help studying python
simple sand
rough sapphire
imagine people trying to learn from itself, and in internet, when I can tell u now, everyone thinks he is right and his way is the "best"
simple sand
read that I meant, lol
latent scaffold
Well no but how are you supposed to respond when someone asks for help learning Python because they can't understand the "tons" of resources they've gone through?
rain bone
yeah but my teacher is teaching the other plebians in my class, I'm far superior than them
rough sapphire
I will think they just over-thinked
coral void
Sometimes people do need to put more effort in. Sometimes they need things explained to them differently
I find derivatives to be a good example
simple sand
Well no but how are you supposed to respond when someone asks for help learning Python because they can't understand the "tons" of resources they've gone through?
@latent scaffold You are suppsed to respond to the question that they asked?
because some people don't understand as easily
coral void
They're explained in a thousand ways, and often only one specific one works for someone
latent scaffold
What are you supposed to say?
coral void
but after that they start to understand things
simple sand
What are you supposed to say?
@latent scaffold Answer the question that they asked
coral void
Sometimes people do show up asking the wrong questions
latent scaffold
Uh.. read other resources?
coral void
That's ok, you're not obliged to help people
coral void
a = (b
"How can I change what's in B to make this work"
You can't, you have to add a parenthesis
simple sand
that's worded in a incorrect manner
latent scaffold
I mean from the question that they asked, it just sounded like a lack of effort and motivation
simple sand
true
rough sapphire
which was the question they asked?
latent scaffold
uh I was talking about the guy who was in #python-discussion
rough sapphire
the 14 year old? or the guys that asked after?
latent scaffold
No, that's where the question came from
rough sapphire
yeah, I agree on that
latent scaffold
no I mean that statement came from the question
simple sand
hmm,
simple sand
but I think we should agree if the person does put in effort and can't pace up as fast other's it's not that they are not working hard enough, it's that that's how they learn
rough sapphire
I think because he is 14 years old, he probably don't have enough experience on what's hard
It sounds more that he is tired
latent scaffold
Nah 14 doesn't have much to do with it honestly
simple sand
@latent scaffold for that I definelty agree with you
i don't think he gave python the time and effort
rough sapphire
yeah probably is that
latent scaffold
I mean they gave it the time of "2 months"
rough sapphire
But actually it's kinda weird, maybe he was trying to get attention, he only said that he knows the "basic"
latent scaffold
It's really weird too because they said this as well:
https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/267624335836053506/765149653154529280
Which is where OffLimit's statements came from
rough sapphire
yeah, so probably he was having a problem, but he didnd't say what was his problem
latent scaffold
but that wasn't their original question
they asked for "help with python" rather then "help with this error" or something
and they also said they "kind of know the basics"
which for 2 months... yikes
rough sapphire
I mean it's good or bad? and what's "basics"?
latent scaffold
When I think of basics I think of knowing functions, variables, classes, statements
Like all the "vanilla" non-headachy stuff
tranquil orchid
Yeah I'd say the basics is the syntax of the language itself pretty much
So classes, functions, loops, statements etc
latent scaffold
Like.. chapter 1 stuff
rough sapphire
yeah but that's actually a lof of stuff, if you try to cover everything
idk if u know the book of, learn python in the hard way
latent scaffold
I mean I know it's dependent on the person but I got the hang of everything fairly quickly
rough sapphire
but the basic it's a lot...
tranquil orchid
I mean you don't have to know literally every area
But after two months
You should be able to at least look something up
and understand what you're being told
latent scaffold
It's strange too because Python is notoriously easy to read, honestly
Especially the basics
rough sapphire
yeah I agree on that
coral void
I'd consider:
Basics:
list, loop, while, boolean, input(), dicts
Intermediate:
Classes, sets, modules, functions
advanced:
metaclasses, decorators, dunder methods other than the easy ones
rough sapphire
I think it matters more on the hours more than the "months"
simple sand
maybe like a couple days.. lol
@latent scaffold No!, it took me 1 month for the basics alone
tranquil orchid
Depends if you have previous experience or not
rough sapphire
Then I grasp the basics in 2 weeks
I'd consider:
Basics:
list, loop, while, boolean, input(), dicts
Intermediate:
Classes, sets, modules, functions
advanced:
metaclasses, decorators, dunder methods other than the easy ones
@coral void
tranquil orchid
If its your first programming language then yeah probably about a month or a few weeks to cover the basics
simple sand
ye
tranquil orchid
If you already know a language though it'll be more like a day
simple sand
ye
rough sapphire
yeah, for me python is my first language
latent scaffold
I mean it's still not 2 months for the basics
Even if you went like a day per subject
tranquil orchid
Yeah two months you should be able to get into the intermediate stage
rough sapphire
I touched more stuff, like open, close binary files, manipulate them, truncate etc...
latent scaffold
Intermediate isn't even that hard to grasp once you know the basics
it's a much bigger jump from nothing > beginner than from beginner > intermediate
rough sapphire
u mean the curve is much harder in the nothing to beginner?
latent scaffold
Yeah, or at least I would think so
rough sapphire
Well that's good to know
latent scaffold
because at that point you've got the general mindset you need to move forward
coral void
Yes, it is
rough sapphire
but for example, I tried to do the program I was doing from memory, no looking up, and it was quite hard...
latent scaffold
You've got the feel for how the language actually works and the syntax and understand errors and what-not
coral void
Learning a programming language is similar to learning an actual language
rough sapphire
and I started almost 1 month ago
coral void
and those are well known to get easier once you've done so
coral void
I find learning other languages much harder than learning programming the first time
rough sapphire
Atleast for me
coral void
But I'm certain it varies a lot
latent scaffold
It's comparative similarities, not relative difficulties
tranquil orchid
I just don't think i find learning an actual language interesting
coral void
right
sand goblet
lol. bats. Good name.
rough sapphire
I mean, I learnt 4 languages and right now I'm starting with chinese and it's kinda easy...
coral void
I barely know french
tranquil orchid
I wouldn't mind trying to learn at least some of another language some day
rough sapphire
I hate french...
coral void
Checked off those college requirements, and it's useful sometimes
spoken french is hard
rough sapphire
The accent is hard
latent scaffold
The accent is hard in any language, really
rough sapphire
If u go to france with a shitty accent they will laugh at u
tranquil orchid
If i were to learn a language it would probably be chinese
rough sapphire
but when I go to London, and I have my spanish accent they don't care
tranquil orchid
Since mandarin is like the second most spoken language worldwide
rough sapphire
but in france, they laugh at me...
latent scaffold
For me, I'd choose Spanish. just because I live in an area with a lot of Spanish-speakers
rough sapphire
I think english, spanish and chinese are good options
but for this world, english is a must
latent scaffold
Makes me wonder though if eventually the whole world will speak English
tranquil orchid
Yeah english is the most spoken language so makes sense to learn it
rough sapphire
yeah probably, it's easy and fast
tranquil orchid
Which is why i would probably learn mandarin if i were to learn a second language
Since thats the second most spoken language
latent scaffold
Mandarin sounds really confusing
rough sapphire
the problem with mandarin is only useful in china, hk, macao and taiwan
outside of there it becomes useless, unless u want to live or work there
tranquil orchid
I mean yeah I don't really see myself using the language super often
But could be nice just to learn anyway
latent scaffold
I mean it's cool if you wanna like.. brag to your friends
rough sapphire
yeah, and later on they will do a lot of movies, will help u a lot
Hahahahaha
The problem with the chinese is that u need to go to a academy
tranquil orchid
duolingo
latent scaffold
ah yes the devil bird
tranquil orchid
it will kill you
rough sapphire
because all the info differs a lot, depending on which site u go, u will learn taiwanese accent, hk, or any other part of chinese accent...
latent scaffold
Languages are super annoying to learn outside of being among native speakers
People will be able to tell you're not native just because it's not traditional
rough sapphire
Yeah, to understand it, u need to live there and tryhard
latent scaffold
Not to mention many languages have different "accents"
rough sapphire
yeah
latent scaffold
English does, too. Like you can kind of tell someone isn't English-native when they speak too literally
rough sapphire
But if u go to London, there are not so many english native people there
latent scaffold
To be fair, there are a ton of languages in that area
rough sapphire
U will see many people from different countries with their accent speaking english
latent scaffold
Like over here in the US, you'll mostly see Spanish and English
rough sapphire
Yeah, but it's not that much no?
like spanish in the us only the 10% speaks it no?
rough sapphire
13.5%
latent scaffold
I imagine because it's right next to the border
rough sapphire
Yeah, that makes sense
and how is the discrimination towards spanish speakers there?
I read that in some states it's kinda high
latent scaffold
Uh, there really isn't any
latent scaffold
48% of my state's population is Hispanic
rough sapphire
where do u live?
rough sapphire
Oh, hahahaha
latent scaffold
Yeah. lmao
latent scaffold
I've literally got 5 of them on Snapchat
rough sapphire
So how it's life over there?
latent scaffold
Dry.
rough sapphire
Too hot?
latent scaffold
Way too hot
The apartment complex I live in turned off cooling because they need to save money
rough sapphire
when was the max point? which month?
latent scaffold
um I think yesterday was 80 degrees mid-day
but without any cooling it gets.. really hot
latent scaffold
We got 13%
tranquil orchid
Its starting to get warm in Australia
was like
24 today
which was a nice change
simple sand
@tranquil orchid u from Australia?
tranquil orchid
yep
simple sand
cool
cosmic lotus
im very down to have a cucumber canvas game as a feature somewhere LOL
@eternal wing
I got bored so I made it a thing
https://codepen.io/gelami/full/BazNGPV
tranquil orchid
cucumber clicker
quick ledge
nice
cosmic lotus
they look more like jelly beans tbh
quaint rivet
yeah lol
latent scaffold
How would make a regex expression that matches words that are possibly split by non-letter characters
I'm trying to ban non-TOS compliant talk in my Discord server
so I need to ban bypasses like w o r d
primal spruce
You won't have a perfect solution but
One thought is that you remove all whitespace and then match
latent scaffold
I ended up coming up with something like this:
([Ww].?[Oo].?[Rr].?[Dd])
That way any character is matched
include periods or numbers or |'s or slashes
rough sapphire
@tranquil orchid we got temperatrures near 40 degrees here in brazil already
edgy crest
how do i make it so that when i plug in the headphones my laptop sound is unmuted by default? (windows)
if there isnt a feature like this is there a way i can do this with python
latent scaffold
Doesn't that happen automatically?
Or that might be a mobile thing
I think there's a PC setting for that
edgy crest
lemme see
latent scaffold
Uh
edgy crest
yea
latent scaffold
It should automatically be enabled
rain bone
^
edgy crest
k i will try that out
latent scaffold
a Python script for that sounds pretty weird lol
edgy crest
it doesnt happen automatically, like if i have a sound set for my head phones and another sound set for speakers, it changes them on plugin, but if i have muted it doesnt unmute
rain bone
why would u want to do it anyway?
edgy crest
huh? so i dont have to unmute everytime i plug in my head phones
umm, why isnt windows detecting my headphones?
silver ruin
hi
boreal swift
This is so confusing https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6455#section-5.3
shell raptor
If you remember the overly complicated C example I showed you https://repl.it/@int6h/cpolymorphismthingy#main.c,
it can be rewritten in Python like this:
class StringWriteOnlyStream:
def __init__(self):
self.string = ""
def write_char(self, char):
self.string += char
def is_open(self):
return True
class FileWriteOnlyStream:
def __init__(self, filename):
self.filename = filename
self._file = open(filename, "w")
self._is_open = True
def close(self):
self._is_open = False
this._file.close()
def write_char(self, char):
self._file.write(char)
def is_open(self):
return self._is_open
def print_message(write_only_stream, message):
if not write_only_stream.is_open():
return
for char in message:
write_only_stream.write_char(char)
swos = StringWriteOnlyStream()
print_message(swos, "hello")
print(swos.string) # hello
fwos = FileWriteOnlyStream("hello.txt")
print_message(fwos, "hello")
fwos.close()
# now hello.txt contains 'hello'
In this example, we define two types: StringWriteOnlyStream and FileWriteOnlyStream. They represent write-only streams -- things that allow you to write to them (like the standard output).
StringWriteOnlyStream allows you to write characters to a string, and FileWriteOnlyStream allows you to write characters to a file.
The print_message function can work with either of those types because they have the same interface (i.e. they both have the is_open and write_char functions that work similarly).
The print_message function is said to be polymorphic because it can work with different data types as long as they have the same interface.
@flat grove
young shoal
bruh
flat grove
@shell raptor This honestly makes much more sense than your C one lmao
Except the fact that you made a bunch of functions you didnt need to
shell raptor
well, this is a toy example, of course @flat grove
sour forge
how does one die by rotational kinetic energy? 
mild abyss
how does one die by rotational kinetic energy?
@sour forge die meaning dead?
mild abyss
@quaint rivet why would he use 🎲 when we know the word 'die' he used is a verb
mild abyss
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mild abyss
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quaint rivet
mild abyss
it is fine, my coolness cant be understood by commoners, i mean (not) cool people
ehem ehem
mild abyss
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mild abyss
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quaint rivet
lol
mild abyss
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quaint rivet
lemong us
lemonade
mild abyss
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quick bay
lE monyadE?
mild abyss
kaboom with sour taste