cool
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
lunar shore
plucky ridge
I love how creepy cabal sounds
solid pollen
Because "haskell" ain't creepy?
solid pollen
It sounds as creepy as "cabal" IMNSHO
topaz aurora
@plucky ridge Creepy build sizes you mean?
[pure@linux ~]$ du -hd0 .cabal .stack
1.2G .cabal
1.4G .stack
Package database + it downloads all of the packages to be built
plucky ridge
Oh that's way less spooky than I thought
rough sapphire
satanist
plucky ridge
And is nothing compared to the bloat you need for Windows stuff
solid pollen
What about the 70Gb of dependencies for UE4 haha
topaz aurora
The Haskell Language Server executables on Windows takes up 1.4 GBs in total
solid pollen
That's a lot
topaz aurora
But then again, the size is unoptimized
solid pollen
Is it the pure source code, or precompiled code with headers?
plucky ridge
That's actually not terrible
solid pollen
You have to put that into perspective though, it is a Gb of text, no media or anything
plucky ridge
I guess?
solid pollen
I wonder how many chars that is
young shoal
nah, at least 14
plucky ridge
That's madness, who needs 14 chars?
solid pollen
What about 42?
topaz aurora
Is it the pure source code, or precompiled code with headers?
@solid pollen That's the compiled size of all executables
It's been a while since I've booted into Windows and I'm not really sure
rough sapphire
what should one do with ddr3 RAM sticks..
solid pollen
How large are they?
rough sapphire
well, they're ddr3.. I imagine there's only one size
solid pollen
I mean, the memory, in Gb, how large is it?
rough sapphire
I have 4GB x2 and 8GB x2
solid pollen
You could put the 8Gb into your computer, I guess
rough sapphire
A motherboard with DDR4 slots cannot use DDR3, and you can't put DDR4 into a DDR3 slot
I think you confused it with the frequencies
solid pollen
Slots accepting both aren't a thing? which would mean a that the guy who sold me my motherboard scammed me
rough sapphire
wanna buy a ddr3? lol
solid pollen
Well, no, but still
rough sapphire
check this
it's pretty cool.. it's basically a case that converts an hdd to an external disk
high verge
Drive enclosure?
gentle moss
caddy
or drive enclosure
i have a couple so i can grab old data from some of my ancient drives :3
rough sapphire
and here I was thinking.. I just happen to find it on amazon
I didn't know it was a thing..
I figured.. only way to recover was to supply power separately and get another adapter cable to read
why can't they come up with something like this for RAM
gentle moss
the cool thing with SSD's is that you can do it all through one cable
because RAM doesn't work like that :p
rough sapphire
you mean power and data are same slots on an ssd?
rough sapphire
noice
gentle moss
maybe laptop spinning discs, but i've had problems with that sometimes
rough sapphire
problems?
rough sapphire
ahh
gentle moss
i always have one in my work bag. super handy.
i also have one of these for easy disk cloning:
they can run in a standalone mode and just do pure physical copies
no computer needed
rough sapphire
well I only have like this one disk lol..
rough sapphire
I think this will be my first external hard disk
maybe I'll try to sell it after I copy my stuff lol
gentle moss
well the advantage of having a caddy or dock is that you can just store old harddrives when you're done with them
then in future if you feel nostalgic, just go browse some data on them
rough sapphire
why not put them on the cloud
gentle moss
upload and pay to store terabytes of data i rarely use on some company's hard drive rather than just keeping it in a box in my cupboard?
rough sapphire
terabytes huh.. I don't have that much stuff lol.. what do you carry around
gentle moss
every time i install a new OS i buy a new HDD for it. so there's about 4 different Windows installs
plus all my old IDE drives that are obsolete now
gentle moss
i've always self built my pc's
honest star
When I first built my PC I had lofty ideas of installing water cooling but never got around to it. I'm fairly tempted to do it now though
gentle moss
it's pretty easy now with the closed loops
classic systems are scaaaarrry
when i first looked at watercooling a lot of it was just stuff like pumps for fish tanks :D
honest star
I'm still running the stock cpu fan x_x
gentle moss
:O
high verge
What brand
gentle moss
if you use the closed loops you're pretty safe
if you're building your own loops and stuff that's where it gets a bit hairy
but even the kits for that these days are better than getting some aquarium tubing and spring clips
young shoal
there was this one build i saw with copper tubing
gentle moss
ooof
young shoal
it looked sooooo good though
gentle moss
i can imagine
very steampunk
i'd just worry about having solid pipes, idk why
break a solder joint or something
young shoal
they were thin so they just heated them a little and bent them
scenic blaze
intense
honest star
@high verge Intel i7 cpu
gentle moss
i'm a fan of clear tubing with UV fluid
young shoal
ooh that sounds cool
honest star
That's actually some of the stuff I originally got. UV fluids that's blue
gentle moss
gentle moss
hah
gentle moss
my first enthusiast build was a DFI board so i had to get UV lights
rip DFI
all the plastic on the boards was UV reactive
young shoal
but why
gentle moss
because case windows
DFI had some pretty good motherboards for overclocking too
UV plastics is just a bonus
check out their box art
:D
honest star
that looks like some weird boardgame or the cover for a choose-your-own-adventure book
gentle moss
circa 2005 nerd shit
rough sapphire
@ruby hollow following up because you helped me in the help channel.
This is the laziest thing I have ever done
def grab_files_by_condition(
is_true, # function
path: Path = cwd) -> list:
"""
takes a path to directory to look in and a function
to conditionally add files from that dir to a list..
"""
return [i for i in path.iterdir() if i.is_true()] if 'function Path' in str(is_true) else []
I'll eventually learn the subscriping types for Callable in typing
ruby hollow
Sure. Go for it. Btw, I think, give a function as an argument isn't safe.
rough sapphire
Hm, Im inclined to consider that is possible.. Can you explain?
scenic blaze
Why wouldn't it be safe?
ruby hollow
It is possible. No worries. But it's just my assumption. Don't mind.
rough sapphire
Well I am having trouble with it....Now it says AttributeError: 'PosixPath' object has no attribute 'is_true' but it literally does because if I print the value of is_true it says <function Path.is_dir at 0x7f38281d74c0> which does have that method.
simple sand
does anybody think this is funny
Why do we tell actors to “break a leg?”
Because every play has a cast.
ah, I think the way I have passed it, the method is a class attribute not an isntance property. And there is not class attribute for that....
and no, i do not think thats funny lol
I cant pass a method of an indstance to a function that the instance doesnt exist until the function makes it exist
simple sand
ok
simple sand
no i dont disagree, that isnt funny
gentle moss
i think it's funny
simple sand
oh u do
gentle moss
i have also heard it before though
simple sand
well then gotta add it to my bot's jokes list
i have also heard it before though
@gentle moss ofc , i got it from the internet
gentle moss
boring fact: the term "break a leg" comes from the rigging that holds up the curtains at a theatre. the curtains are held up by "legs" and to "break a leg" is to have so many curtain re-openings for bows or w/e that the "legs" holding up the curtains break.
either that or it's the dude who assassinated Lincoln jumping off a balcony afterwards and breaking his leg
simple sand
this is a valid dict right?
random_jokes = {
'What does a butcher do after travelling somewhere over a rainbow?What does a butcher do after travelling somewhere over a rainbow\n Weigh a pie!Weigh a pie!',
'I entered ten puns in a pun contest hoping one would win... \n But no pun in ten did!But no pun in ten did!',
'Whats the difference between a well dressed man on a bike and a poorly dressed man on a unicycle?Whats the difference between a well dressed man on a bike and a poorly dressed man on a unicycle? \n Attire!Attire!',
'Why do cows wear bells?Why do cows wear bells? \n Because their horns dont work!',
'How many times can you subtract 10 from 100? \n Once. The next time you would be subtracting 10 from 90.'
}```
calm dawn
@gentle moss that thing looks sweet without UV, all red and copper colored
gentle moss
the copper look is very nice.
calm dawn
@simple sand I don't think so
simple sand
ok
gentle moss
huh, apparently there are lots of potential meanings for "break a leg"
and none of them are the one i thought i knew
calm dawn
@simple sand dict is like this:
dictionary = {'key1':'value1', 'key2':'value2'}
graceful basin
I always knew it as wish ya luck
rough sapphire
Do you ever ask yourself after trying to improve a simple thing why you made it more complicated for no reason
simple sand
is the right hand side being made mroe complicated
rough sapphire
Yeah. I mean lot of the functionality is better and more reusable but it has issues that can be avoided by just using the first
for such a simple thing
there is no reason to deal with such issues
you could easily do this in bash
gentle moss
madman
rough sapphire
its true
to be fair i wasa mainly trying to learn practices i dont do always with something simple
gentle moss
well, no harm in a bit of practice
rough sapphire
I reverted a bit too far back to that older version, a couple line chages and additions and it works
incomplete as depicted
This is my home structure
[shaen@x ~]$ cat home*dirs*
/home/shaen:
bin - shell scripts are added to path
scripts - single files or snippets without x permissions
projects - mostly python projects, but also Java, and others
gets - incoming files from the net, unsorted in reveiving
gui - mostly kde and qt software themes, extentions, etc
vapor - when dirs from projects needs to be out of the way
dev - symlinks to paths mounted on the fstab for
media - contains pictures, sounds, videos, etc
repos - for clones, forks, and pulled down non-projects
docs - documents of any kind
desktop - current workspace -- files should not remain here
www -- things that consist mainly of html, csss, and js
typos lul
gentle moss
mine's a million nano.save files
narrow pecan
I just (re)cloned the @royal lake repo
Could literally hear my SSD writing the data 👀
rough sapphire
ha. I did that once on a VM because I was ignorrant and had installed debian for the django webserver
needed upgraded python version
it took longer to build tha anything else ive ever built from source
solid pollen
@narrow pecan FYI you could have swapped the remotes without recloning 
edgy crest
hm
edgy crest
how did akarys get his cute pfp
narrow pecan
I think he went into settings and added it
@solid pollen what is that pfp even?
(yeah, it makes you look older ancient)
solid pollen
It is really random
That's a simplified drawing of the Dr. Casper Darling from Control
And it is a Personal Work ™
Hand drew, computer colored
narrow pecan
You drew it?
solid pollen
Yeah
narrow pecan
It looks better than the person it's meant to be hahah
solid pollen
Not my finest work for sure
narrow pecan
Darling?
solid pollen
The original character
narrow pecan
Ah, right
I just googled him when you told me about him earlier. Didn't quite remember the name
sand goblet
oh my god guys
the guy behind babish hired sohla for her own show
this is aaaaaaaaawesome
young shoal
wait that's cool
honest star
I love the babish + sohla duo. It's so good
rough sapphire
I collected all these files from a repo and put them in a form so I could make random bootstrap themes and pygments mixes
It doesnt work out that well often haha
Thats pelican by the way, not django or flask. that post is from another blog just used for its metadata
round rose
I've been meaning to play around with sidebar navigation for a while
Gotta up my frontend game
rough sapphire
This one is kinda outdated and powered by jquery but its on a static site. I just grabbed a theme and started modding it. I may actually do that. Normally I would do this with Vuetify if I was building some kind of thing like that from scratch. But often times I dont because its a lot of effort to deal with npm components
and depending on them
the project has to necessitate building a frontend experience to be worth it.
imo
charred fulcrum
owo
rough sapphire
This one I did myself. I mean I hada toolkit to help me but i implemented it
got bored with it tho
lol
the terminal component isnt mine
but i worked on it.
Did you get it from github or something?
npm. vue-command. The material design spec toolkit is just vuetify. But with that component you really have to pull the developer repo and fix it and add things necessary to use it (ie, make your own commands)
the title animation on toolbar button click is css, i did that
thats the primary difference between npm and pip.
On pip you mostly know that you can trust things to a certain extent. You still check how long its been updaated since but...
on npm you know for a fact that everything is breaking constantly
and you have to fix it
or wait for it to get fixed
scenic blaze
In germany they've taught and trained rats to operate a feeder with their brain
and in doing so, have increased their thought processing
calm dawn
interesting...
cosmic ravine
truly a thing only Germans would think of doing
making rats more efficient
rough sapphire
granate
they used dogs too in ww for carrying bombs?
or was it russians
poor doggos rip
shell raptor
@feral harness
Is it okay to give it away to them?
No, would you give your username and password to them?
Those credentials are used to communicate to the API as a specific user, i.e. upload images, edit images and so on.
So if you get those credentials, you get access to your stuff.
feral harness
Its Oauth
API Status
Status for the API can be found at status.imgur.com!
Getting Started
Imgur's API exposes the entire Imgur infrastructure via a standardized programmatic interface. Using Imgur's API, you ca...
Then should I ask every user to fill it? It doesn't make much sense
@shell raptor
calm dawn
@feral harness cute doggo
plucky ridge
@feral harness I mean you could have a something pop up and give them instructions on how to use it and have it prompt for the token they get from the api thingy
Just have it store it locally
neat notch
truly a thing only Germans would think of doing
making rats more efficient
@cosmic ravine german seriousness is vital ofc
to achieve the level of german efficiency that's exhibited by german engineers
calm dawn
@plucky ridge you asked yesterday about my disassembly project if it was a raspberry pi something, what was the question again?
plucky ridge
Oh right I was wondering if the processor it has is based on something like ARM or x86 or something
Or if it uses its own architecture or something
calm dawn
oh, the Python VM?
plucky ridge
The Pi itself
calm dawn
the raspberry pi uses arm
plucky ridge
Ah dope
neat notch
what model
calm dawn
I dont know where a raspberry pi surfaced in my project because I've never even touched one
plucky ridge
I for some reason thought you had
calm dawn
I ran my project using the https://repl.it interpreter, which I think runs on an x86 linux server
plucky ridge
Okay then yeah, I'm not sure where that came from
calm dawn
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I need to get a library of those faces made so I can call one up on the command line :D
!e print(b'\xc2\xaf\x5c\x5f\x28\xe3\x83\x84\x29\x5f\x2f\xc2\xaf')
royal lakeBOT
You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
calm dawn
well okay then
plucky ridge
!e print(b'\xc2\xaf\x5c\x5f\x28\xe3\x83\x84\x29\x5f\x2f\xc2\xaf')
royal lakeBOT
@plucky ridge :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
b'\xc2\xaf\\_(\xe3\x83\x84)_/\xc2\xaf'
!e print(b'\xc2\xaf\x5c\x5f\x28\xe3\x83\x84\x29\x5f\x2f\xc2\xaf'.decode('UTF-8'))
royal lakeBOT
@plucky ridge :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
There we go
cosmic ravine
guess I'm a little late with that :\
that's from a pi 3b
my pi 4 arrived today, but I forgot it uses usb type c -.-
eternal wing
that's from a pi 3b
my pi 4 arrived today, but I forgot it uses usb type c -.-
also PoE
plucky ridge
Well you can only use that if you have a particular HAT with it
eternal wing
which I still need to figure out
my pi is collecting dust, I cant figure out what to do with it still
young shoal
gib me
neat notch
that's from a pi 3b
my pi 4 arrived today, but I forgot it uses usb type c -.-
@cosmic ravine I'm getting a... rpi gen 1 model b
very soon
for free
fringe creek
once i thought I ordered a rpi 3 b+ but I accidentally got an rpi b+ lol
manic bloom
OK, I want to know the story behind this name
eternal wing
well, clearly they are a space craft. And they like standard pressure, but only in millibars.
fringe creek
basically when i was 9 i wanted to make an email acct, (ik youre supposed to be 13 but idc) and i really liked space back then, still like it a lot now but not as much, but anyways, I put my name as spacecraft, it was taken, then tried spacecraft101 (cus 101 is a cool number), also taken, so then i just stuck with spacecraft1013 and left it as that
I kept the same username for literally everything cus it's never taken
young shoal
yeah no one wants it
tranquil orchid
lmao
native canyon
Das bad
That means once I know your name is spacecraft
Everywhere I go ill find a trail
Yea man u have quite an Internet trail
Actually maybe that's a good thing who knows
eternal wing
my username is from runescape like 14 years ago
not that anyone asked xD
but I think yours is a valiant origin story
Btw, is it your pasta that is savage or is it you?
undone berry
Did you actually have the username fisher on RS?
that must have been damn hard to get
eternal wing
oh nvm
undone berry
or was it like xx_fisher_xx_55454353454345435_xx
eternal wing
It is Fisher60
undone berry
that's pretty good
eternal wing
across the board, unless they let me use fisher xD
sullen thorn
doodspav is much easier to find 😉
eternal wing
I was happy to get only double digits
where does yours come from?
not charlie obv
sullen thorn
it's always been my online nickname - play on the fact that when i was 8 i couldnt spell dude, and my irl nickname
undone berry
yeah, pretty much
also a thoroughly shit given name
honest to god - Charles would be better. Charlie is just terrible.
sullen thorn
did ppl call u charlie the unicorn at school?
undone berry
Charlie the unicorn and Charlie bit my finger - still today people will squawk those two things at me
eternal wing
charles is a pretty sweet name.
I cannot read your name without a british accent btw
undone berry
neither can I - but I guess we have different reasons for that...
eternal wing
the logic checks out
sullen thorn
charlieeeee 🙂 candy mountain charlieee
eternal wing
this is why we cant have nice things xD
charlie, you better follow me back, I see you not following anyone
@undone berry you have a flight tracker? Is it using ADS-B
undone berry
The only time I ever do anything public on Github is when I forget to make it private
and yeah - it was/is using ADSB
Flightaware running on a Raspberry Pi
eternal wing
nice. I am well versed in this
cool, I had one of those up for awhile. Now it is just linked to my charts
undone berry
I really liked the idea of setting up a bunch of them in different countries and crowd sourcing it - then I discovered ADSB exchange has done exactly that
eternal wing
LOL, yep. Flightaware gives you all the data for free if you are a contributing station
undone berry
When I looked - they didn't give it to you in a nice programmatic form. They have a hosepipe api, but you don't get access to that by default
eternal wing
that is true, I could not find good data
I really want to do stuff with adsb and weather. As there is a massive, untapped area for some reliable services it can provide. It is currently being worked on by boeing though
undone berry
Messing about with ADSB and that kind of data is pretty fun - I intend to do some more with it in the future
eternal wing
I have some nice machine learning projects that incorporate adsb data, I should really start on those
sullen thorn
are they the type of project that uses a gpu?
undone berry
I really want to mess about with data science + maps in some way
and planes is a great way to do that
eternal wing
mmmmm tasty cuda cores
sullen thorn
i really need a data science project to justify getting a 3080 (or ti if it comes out when i buy it)
sullen thorn
why not use the 3080 for ML?
eternal wing
I REALLLY want to do some ai image gen
1060 for some deep learning
ill put it on my server xD
sullen thorn
you have a server?!
sullen thorn
damn ok
eternal wing
haha, it is my old gaming pc
sullen thorn
is this like a proper server, or just your pc that you can connect to remotely?
ah ok
eternal wing
My new one is upgraded to be ready for a 3080 😎
undone berry
Screw using a desktop GPU for compute - just use some server somewhere
sullen thorn
they're expensive tho :/
eternal wing
yeah, it is a gaming pc. Ubuntu, it runs a few websites, discord bots, stock trading scripts
sullen thorn
and with a desktop gpu i only need to justify the cost once, not every month
undone berry
Azure gives you a bunch of free credit
sullen thorn
i thought collab wasn't very powerful
eternal wing
azure keeps spam emailing me
undone berry
collab is pretty powerful - moreso than most desktop GPUs
undone berry
as in, more than the 1050m in Gary's laptop
sullen thorn
ah ok so not comparable to 3080
TPU delivers 180TFlops and provides a 64GB RAM.
hmm
undone berry
I can't find anything concrete about google collab's sppeds
sullen thorn
ok this makes me feel better
i can persuade myself that i need 64GB ram in my new build 🙂
tranquil orchid
Yeah colab is pretty nice
Like even if i could run it on my computer colab is just nicer cause i can start it up and leave without worrying about my computer blowing up
twilit hull
64 is not enoughbruvyou need terabytes of ram
mild abyss
Bazzinggabyte
edgy crest
no next after yotta
sullen thorn
guys bear in mind i only have a single cpu
sullen thorn
there's a limit to how much memory i can have, and it's in the GB range
edgy crest
no other core counts?
just one?
sullen thorn
echobot?
edgy crest
no i am doing it on my own lmao
sullen thorn
why lol
edgy crest
idk
rough sapphire
mac supports 4 TB ram afaik
sullen thorn
mac is an OS
rough sapphire
Mac Pro
sullen thorn
has an intel xeon 🙂
sullen thorn
hmm only? lemme check the cpu specs
i feel like that might be becase it only has 12 slots, not because of cpu limitations
sullen thorn
lol it's a lot of hardware, in a very sleek package
sullen thorn
yeah their own
sullen thorn
but i'm surprised it has 1.5TB ram available, i can't find an intel xeon W with more than 0.5TB available
simple sand
i think it's called silicon not sure though
rough sapphire
That That is stupidity
sullen thorn
why? they've been designing their own mobile processors for over a decade
sullen thorn
i don't think they're replacing it in top tier quite yet
think they're starting with laptops
where power efficiency is very beneficial
rough sapphire
i can't find an intel xeon W with more than 0.5TB available
Have you tried seeing it on servers' motherboard
I think motherboard also plays a role here
sullen thorn
https://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/products/processors/xeon/w-processors/w-3275m.html ok it think this is the cpu the top end mac pro uses, and they only support up to 1.5TB because they only have 12 slots for ram, and who tf sells a stick of ram with more than 128GB
rough sapphire
simple sand
oh that viid
rough sapphire
I swear i don't like linus that much but that video
I waited for it for 2 weeks
after he posted a teaaser in his yt story
I have never seen a Ram stick higher than 128 GB
rough sapphire
holy sheeeeeeeeeeeet
ngl I have never noticed that bump
when I ejected my Ram stick
I was like oh fuck I broke it
rough sapphire
10$
sullen thorn
hmm, but also almost no one is gonna complete this survey
like i almost gave up 3 times
sullen thorn
what if everyone else says that too?
rough sapphire
What if not
sullen thorn
then i lose :/
simple sand
what is this conditional test checking for
if 7 <= datetime.now().hour < 22:
Whether the our is greater than or equal to 7 and lesser than 22
mild abyss
is it me or our projects are like highschool level 🤔
mild abyss
i made one like this in highschool. now i am wondering if my college degree just scammed me
tranquil orchid
Wait this is in college
tranquil orchid
oh lmao
tranquil orchid
Base pairing in college
that seems a bit suss
Unless it ends up going into a bit more detail
mild abyss
it is okay if it is a refresher. but.. i dont think it is
its been a month we were talking stuff like this
i really need a decent education but i cant cause i am poor and so untalented
eternal wing
i made one like this in highschool. now i am wondering if my college degree just scammed me
yesssss, join the dark side. We can complain about our college together
quick ledge
https://canary.discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/696351646976049242/758965222421037057
@edgy crest Yes, that is one of the things you should keep in mind while implementing data structures
edgy crest
yea
i found another solution by someone
def validBraces(s):
while '{}' in s or '()' in s or '[]' in s:
s=s.replace('{}','')
s=s.replace('[]','')
s=s.replace('()','')
return s==''```@quick ledge
quick ledge
yes, that looks hella neat
edgy crest
ikr
topaz aurora
Kdenlive is interesting
mild abyss
hmmmm sounds too good to be true for it to be open sauced
cosmic lotus
how is it too good to be true
topaz aurora
Bitcoin Core is open source 🤷
cosmic lotus
Blender too
mild abyss
Open Sauce is very nnice
solid pollen
That's how the protocol work, when you make a transaction you attribute yourself some reward
topaz aurora
Right so it's basically just making sure that the integrity of the network is intact, from what I'm reading at least
mild abyss
but bitcoin is limited right?
like
it will ran out around 2040-2060 or something
Bloatcoin mining
solid pollen
Yeah, the hashchain is here to make sure that no one tamper with the history
mild abyss
bitcoin is stilla mystery
topaz aurora
Nearly there
mild abyss
pure are you mining?
solid pollen
Mining as an individual nowadays is useless
topaz aurora
So if I understand correctly, you do/verify transactions, you get rewarded for doing so
solid pollen
Because of how large the network is, the reward is so low that it isn't worth it anymore
mild abyss
hmmm who invented bitcoin is still a mystery
solid pollen
Yes pure
topaz aurora
FINALLY
solid pollen
It isn't a mystery though
mild abyss
I thought that was a myth
solid pollen
That's why a millionth of a bitcoin is called a Satoshi
mild abyss
hmmmm downloading new information to brain
topaz aurora
So clearly, the actual monetary value of a Bitcoin banks on the users of the network itself I assume
solid pollen
Yeah, on the current flux
mild abyss
bitcoin currency is fragile right?
topaz aurora
If no one uses a cryptocurrency, it's about as worth as play money
topaz aurora
Makes sense
mild abyss
so you need to withdraw when it is best
solid pollen
Yup
topaz aurora
Stocks?
solid pollen
Bitcoin trading is like, very fast or any cryptoconcurrency for that matter
mild abyss
stonks
solid pollen
Stocks? What about them?
topaz aurora
Was just reminded about them lol
topaz aurora
I want to get into them some time in the future
But I probably can't be bothered to do so either way
solid pollen
Copy trading for the win ☕
One of these day I'd like to do neutral learning from scratch about trading
Not really putting too much money into it though
One of these days I'll have my "programming from scratch" blog
mild abyss
days
oh shit here comes the internet maintenance i think. internet just slowed down
also so much soup topics in #ot0-psvm’s-eternal-disapproval. Probably because no one was convinced that cereal is porridge
cosmic lotus
but it is right?
solid pollen
Cereal is soup
mild abyss
~meow~
mild abyss
I know cereal is soup I just want to troll the new core dev
why are you meowing
@cosmic lotus I am a cat shark
cosmic lotus
what's your diet as a cat shark
mild abyss
i eat fish. and chicken. and meat
cosmic lotus
how about beans
mild abyss
wow kdenlive is so lightweight. pure this is the best thing i have ever seen
i eat beans. it is called monggo
topaz aurora
With chicharon?
cosmic lotus
and malunggayyyyyyyy
topaz aurora
🅱️ ruh
simple sand
so here i have it setup so that u cant ping the helpers role in my test server but look at this
i am still able to ping it whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy????
young shoal
are you the server owner
hoary steppe
young shoal
in my test server
young shoal
then you always have admin permissions
simple sand
ik but I want to make it so that u cant ping the helpers role
u cant
@hoary steppe in the template u can
young shoal
use an alt account
simple sand
oh ye let me try
simple sand
@young shoal u were right the alt cant
edgy crest
breh
rough sapphire
@young shoal public static void Main(string[] args){}
edgy crest
what.
young shoal
have a consistent sleep schedule (for enough time), eat healthily, exercise
rough sapphire
its ok afaik
quick ledge
no it's fucking not. keep it PG
sand goblet
how is "don't forget to poop" not PG
quick ledge
Aw gee, dude.
mortal ferry
Everything alright here?
scenic blaze
Just talk about good gastro-intestinal habits
rough sapphire
If you have a user subscriptions app in your django project, among many other apps, all of them needing to have an api... mostly... do you partition away into another app to make the subscriptions app with web forms and another one just to serioalize json and share an /api/ endpoint. I'm not sure how you get multiple apps to share tnat end point without fucking up your name spacing.
Unless you can just write all of the /api/things/ in the root url conf
I thought i was starting to understand Django. It just keeps having more layers of things that i dont get ha
nevermind, you pass it the exact view if you want to instead of including the entire set of url patterns
The thing that is mainly confusing is that, the way I am doing things is the way i need to stop doing things now that Im deep in this
I need to do generic class views
But i couldnt have understood that when i started
scenic blaze
Yeah, certain libraries do be like that
eternal chasm
hi
graceful basin
I think I prefer parser combinators over this https://paste.pythondiscord.com/ejozuzaziy.py
topaz aurora
I'm personally not a fan of imperative parsing as well
graceful basin
it did get me to 4kyu though, so I guess thats fine. Would've done hs, but it was not an option, and reusing my clj shunting yard seemed cheaty
the neat thing is this could be rewritten to C pretty much 1:1
high verge
How might I go about simulating wifi/ethernet communication?
for a pentesting ctf simulation on a broader scale
so it would allow for ARP spoofing and wifi MITM attacks naturally
and would therefore not only have to simulate subnets but also MAC traffic
which afaik isn't possible with any cloud solution
eternal wing
you could probably get a simple plugin to create a virtual network connection. Might be able to write that in python.
Similar to how a VPN software takes over as your network device
high verge
Ah right
My concern was having to write a network driver
Which uh
Ain't happening
Also I have zero experience with like
Enterprise on prem cloud vm deployment
I.e. dynamic ec2 instances but not
high verge
Well I was considering that lol
Idea was watch dogs 2 but it's all real machines
I.e. physical pentesting simulation without the physical
And without the forms
eternal wing
ohhh that is cool.
Just set up a vulnerable Pi haha
except that is physical xD
Im no help sorry
plucky ridge
Wait... the crap? Does ReScript not have BigInts?
CURSES
Whelp, there go my dreams of making an incremental game with absurdly high numbers
rich rover
I wonder how large integers can go until the computer crashes
young shoal
as much memory as you have
eternal wing
I wonder how large integers can go until the computer crashes
@rich rover signed:2**63-1
unsigned: 2**64-1 on a 64 bit system xD
iirc
rich rover
Oh, this is gonna be fun
eternal wing
what are you trying to do? xD
https://www.codewars.com/kata/5518a860a73e708c0a000027/train/python this is a cool one if you are interested in the topic
cosmic ravine
perfect exercise for 3.30am.. guess I'll go to bed Oo
rough sapphire
I decided to start making fake websites for NPCs in the story ive been playing over in my head for a while now. Bring the world to life.
This is one of them
mild abyss
@cosmic ravine hmmmm thats hyperskill.org
cosmic ravine
it is, yea
cosmic ravine
right after I finished my project they shoved me one more activity in the face - and of course it had to be about truthy and falsy
mild abyss
welp i still need a refresher. i gotta go back next month if im still alive
i will learn Java and Javascript after
cosmic ravine
76% oO
I'm at...uh...
Topics completed: 121 / 258 (47%)
just finished my 6th project
I really got to hurry, my free trial runs out in dec 31
mild abyss
my free trial runs out on january 1
i am not worried though. i realized it is not the only best source
cosmic ravine
yeah, I wanted to do the java course after this one, but judging by the time left that won't happen :\
cosmic ravine
have you done any of their django stuff?
I've heard it's not the best experience and am scared
mild abyss
i finished all of them
i jumped on the difficulty
it is quite easy. for some reason, it is way easy
cosmic ravine
have you completed "smart calculator" by chance?
if so, how hard was the last stage for you?
just so I have a baseline for my next question: how hard was the django stuff? :p
smart calulators last stage killed me and the fun at once.
mild abyss
django isnt hard (on the basic side of things), as long as you understand how it works or maybe thats just me.
eternal wing
django is also the coolest thing ever™️
mild abyss
Though it is in the Challenging Level
cosmic ravine
that's what scares me
mild abyss
@cosmic ravine same Smart Calculators killed me too, and i remembered i have a code snippet from three years ago when i made a smart calc
cosmic ravine
smart calc was "just" hard - but the last stage was just...hell no, never again
mild abyss
that was when i still use Python 2 because teacher is not very knowledgeable on what will happen to python 2
i just copied the logic
cosmic ravine
tbh I cheated a bit with eval()
I'd have gone crazy otherwise~
mild abyss
most projects are doable
except the math side of things
i have low proficiency in math
anyway i gotta go take this refresher course
rough sapphire
My advice is to get into the web if youre not a math guy.
cosmic ravine
huh, they seem to have a new project "regex engine"
regex seems very useful, but it's regex..
guess I'll decide tomorrow. either regex or django :x
rough sapphire
fuck web dev, back end cool
Regex is not a thing you should spend a lot of time mastering. Learn the basics and how to construct one when you need it from manuals and tools
I'm about to get beaten up
cosmic ravine
it just seems so helpful when checking input
what I did with 3 elif and an else some other dude did with regex in 2 lines
rough sapphire
It is often helpful but spending time writing regexes youre not using isnt helpful because you haave to spend a lot of time putting them together if they are complicated no matter what
what i mean is,. its not somethin you should be able to vomit from memory in any situation
you need tools to verify they are safe anyway
and you ahvae to check them
rough sapphire
django is one of my focuses right now. Its a lot of stuff but just keep at it
cosmic ravine
anyway, 3.55am, I'll head to bed
thanks for the tips @mild abyss and @rough sapphire
have a nice...day? night?
rough sapphire
thank yopu
cosmic ravine
whatever it is over there
rough sapphire
i dont have my glasses so i cant see very well lol
twilit hull
surreal otter
Is it worth learning java? Or is it just unnecessary torture with the available languages that make life easier, not harder?
undone berry
Depends on what you want from it. If you want a fun language to make cool things in - then no
if you want a language to get a job with, then yes
if you just want something different to Python - then it might be a good learning experience
eternal wing
I personally would not learn it more than necessary.
it is still used in industry quite a lot afaik though
autumn night
ruby 3 is looking really nice https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2020/09/25/ruby-3-0-0-preview1-released
it might get me to start using ruby instead of python for some stuff...
rough sapphire
I'm thinking that as much as I dont want to... it's worth starting my Django project over so that I can start doing things the modern way (class based, generic views) way. Its either I wait for the next idea that I will approach with a desire to learn the generic views.... Or I sink a lot more time than I need to into maaking a lot of tedious funnctionality that I now know the new way will just automate
It wouldnt even be fully starating over, id have it as a guide, and i also have the frontend still which is not affected
Also worse than any of that, is that I slightly modified the way the structure is becaause I thought that I could and I did
But its more trouble thaan its worth
gives a slight idea
Mainly, look at where all the apps are in relation to where they normally are. It works but... its a pain.
mellow spire
river laurel
i open chrome and my cpu goes up to 99%
tranquil orchid
geez
edgy crest
def whoIsNext(names, r):
while r > 5:
r = (r - 4) / 2
return names[r-1]```
AHHHHHH MY BRAIN IS GETTING FRIED WITH THIS MUCH MATHSthe question is this
that solution is bigBrain
how do i improve my math :<
mild abyss
@edgy crest use deque
edgy crest
what
mild abyss
@edgy crest using from collections import deque is the solution to solve this problem.
edgy crest
i have the solution
i am just saying i wanted to solve it myself
thats why i was asking how do i improve my math
;-;
or my logical reasoning power
i dont wanna be dumb ;-;
mild abyss
@edgy crest practice math
everyday
even if you hate it
well not everyday thats overkill
but you get what i mean
mild abyss
complaining is understandable but it isnt the solution. you start from basic algebra to calculus
edgy crest
i am not complaining, i am just asking for the correct path
and rip i am typing with one hand
anyway can someone explain that solution to me
i didnt understand why did thye do (r-4)/2
mild abyss
@edgy cresthttp://www.pythontutor.com/visualize.html#code=def%20whoIsNext%28names,%20r%29%3A%0A%20%20%20%20while%20r%20%3E%205%3A%0A%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20r%20%3D%20%28r%20-%204%29%20/%202%0A%20%20%20%20return%20names%5Br-1%5D%0A%20%20%20%20%0Aprint%28whoIsNext%28%5B'Sheldon',%20'Leonard',%20'Penny',%20'Rajesh',%20'Howard'%5D,%203%29%29%0A&cumulative=false&curInstr=1&heapPrimitives=nevernest&mode=display&origin=opt-frontend.js&py=3&rawInputLstJSON=%5B%5D&textReferences=false maybe this will help you visualize what happens
rough sapphire
@mild abyss that is yakuake drop down ability widget wrapper on konsole , which is kde yeah
edgy crest
alr thx
mild abyss
mhmm
rough sapphire
its good but heavy, the drop down on hotkey that is
mild abyss
yakuake is heavy? 👀
rough sapphire
You never wonder where the terminal is or wish it would go away
i mean its not heavy but its a lot of graphical movement
that is for some people
mild abyss
ah yeah i am using yakuake for some time now too
rough sapphire
i only recently switched to it but ive used konsole for awhile
mild abyss
it is good for quick switching
rough sapphire
it very much is, it might as well be another monitor
mild abyss
if only i have a second monitor
mild abyss
@edgy crest python def whoIsNext(names, r): while r > 5: r = int((r - 4) / 2) return names[r-1] i think this is the correct solution since / returns a float
but yeah i cant explain math cause i suck at explaining
edgy crest
i fixed that alr, but the prob is i dont understand whats going on with that formula
just the r-4, just that
ik why /2 is there,
and whats it isdoing
but not r-4
mild abyss
i think it will remove the first two duplicates
lost valley
Hi anyone good at R? i have just started learning it and im stuck please @me if u can help.
mild abyss
Hi anyone good at R? i have just started learning it and im stuck please @me if u can help.
@lost valley what about R? i forgot about it :((
I learned R because of statistics class in highschool so i am not confident. can you tell me your problem?
maybe something in my brain can help me remember
lost valley
@lost valley what about R? i forgot about it :((
@mild abyss ``````{R}
Load data
data = read.csv("heart (1).csv")
select sex and heart disease rate
sex = data$sex
age = data$age
data1 = table(sex, age)
data1
barplot(data1, main = "Rates of heart disease by Age and Sex", xlab = "Age",
col = c("lightblue", "lightgreen"), legend = rownames(data1), beside = TRUE)
```
Error in table(sex, age) : all arguments must have the same length
Calls: <Anonymous> ... withCallingHandlers -> withVisible -> eval -> eval -> table
Execution halted```i get that error
when i try from my pc
but on rcloud it works it works fine
lost valley
i googled it it didnt help lmao
your sex and age indices might not be at the same length
@mild abyss like in the .csv
there at 304 values for both
mild abyss
hmmmm lemme remember...
lost valley
i would use rcloud but its notoriously bad
mild abyss
@lost valley i just realised that youre using = instead of <-
lost valley
do i replace all = with <-?
# Load data
data = read.csv("heart.csv")
# select sex and heart disease rate
sex = data$sex
age = data$age
data1 = table(sex, age)
data1
barplot(data1, main = "Count of heart disease by Age and Sex",xlab = "Age", ylab = "Count", col = c("blue", "green") ,beside = TRUE)
that works in r cloud lmao
mild abyss
i havent touched R for a very long time. but = still works though dont worry
@lost valley that works in R cloud?
lost valley
yea
lost valley
its a group project so im uploading my code to rcloud then my desktop rstudio thing didnt knit
mild abyss
wow... yeah i was kinda doubting why it didnt work when you told me it has equal lengths
then ultra wtf
lost valley
this is what it supposed to look like as well
but im doing that step by step
as soon as i fix the error
mild abyss
it might be something to do with R studio.
lost valley
i might try on a new account
mild abyss
do you want to increase the number of xlabels?
mild abyss
i think barplot has an option for that
i might just keep working on rcloud
@lost valley yeah you should
i find it weird why it didnt work on R studio
rough sapphire
I am so bad at frontend implementation.
mild abyss
i find it readabe and not disttracting
except when that slider pops up
the color turns magenta?
agile heart
coming from java, the fact that this is legal in Python
for i in range(10):
pass
print(i)
``` makes me err so muchexactly
now that becomes a PITA when you're working in Jupyter
so like I had this
def func():
print(i)
and that would actually print something and I was like where the heck is it even getting i from
it was getting i from another block of code, in one of the previous cells and I'm like duuude...
Imagine this
def a():
print(i)
for i in range(10):
pass
a()
this is legal
Altho yes, this:
def a():
print(i)
a()
for i in range(10):
pass
is illegal but still
I just wish there was a way to make the code above throw an error instead of it working fine, the scope resolution >.<
in my case, I was writing this dynamic programming code for finding minimum edit distance and in a place I used 'i' instead of 'row' and that just caused an hour of headache
fml
Sometimes I feel, it's like you just CAN'T know for sure whether your python program is buggy, or not, can you?
Like yes that thing exists for every language, less so for a compiled language than an interpreted one but I'm curious how like the professional devs deal with that
agile heart
but it's harder with Python than it would be with a compiled language, innit?
like, the tests just have to be more extensive
graceful basin
it is actually sometimes easier, since you can mock more things. If I have some complex superobject in java that depends on sth I cannot run in a testing env, it is far harder to mock it than it is in python
agile heart
okay maybe Java loses with the duck typing, how'd you compare it to something like Golang tho? Go is compiled, and you've got duck typing there
graceful basin
I have no idea, I never tested in go
agile heart
mmm
simple sand
is go a language
mild abyss
Go(ogle)Lang
solid pollen
Weird, skipping too fast in Spotify breaks genius' notification scrapper
icy osprey
What do you use to make games in python?
unique warren
This channel is gud
tranquil orchid
Arcade is so much better than pygame
eager trout
so now pydis is a big company I guess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH26PuX3re0
I wonder who voiced it
sand goblet
I think it might have been Inver
eager trout
haha, I would've said Joe's voice is deep
sand goblet
It doesn't sound like Joe I don't think, but I could be wrong
Also the recording is too high quality haha
narrow pecan
It was voiced by a professional voice over artist
edgy crest
feeeevvveeerrrr ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
why is everyone changing their nickname/pfp
today
are you guys playing a joke on me 
tranquil orchid
a professional british
edgy crest
🫖
graceful basin
nice
tranquil orchid
yeah idk whats up with that embed
narrow pecan
the enraged lemoji looks dam cool
@edgy crest which one?
edgy crest
narrow pecan
Aaah
tranquil orchid
wait mines different to lmao
edgy crest
LOL
fading umbra
I thought that was a mango
edgy crest
wut
tranquil orchid
lmao
narrow pecan
Seems like it was 427194066216681474
edgy crest
i am not a bot..
tranquil orchid
mango
edgy crest
BAnAnA
tranquil orchid
otn a I-thought-that-was-a-mango
fading umbra
wot is otn
mild abyss
so i have a question
tranquil orchid
off topic name add
sand goblet
edgy crest
why
mild abyss
it only happened for some reason idk.
fading umbra
You on a linux distro?
fading umbra
Huh
mild abyss
probably i bumped it
edgy crest
bumped it
fading umbra
I was about to recommend you try for help in Discord Linux
edgy crest
this is bold, wow
edgy crest
even cooler
mild abyss
😌
edgy crest
breh the relieved emoji looks like you are meditating
edgy crest
you mean Hyper Discord Disorder?
fading umbra
lmao
narrow pecan
fading umbra
a mango with a beard
narrow pecan
^ hyper pleased
fading umbra
hMMm
narrow pecan
Mango? It’s a lemon. Not just a lemon. It’s the lemon
fading umbra
a lemon huh
mild abyss
hyper-discord-disorder
narrow pecan
That sounds a bit cold
narrow pecan
Hahah alright
soft violet
People keep telling me I sound like a text-to-speech engine. 😁
edgy crest
hmm i didnt hear you yesterday
narrow pecan
Hahahah
edgy crest
i would like to hear akarys' voice
narrow pecan
I guess we all have different ambitions in life ¯_(ツ)_/¯
narrow pecan
Ooo
mild abyss
i like the yt vid from the announcement
edgy crest
^
narrow pecan
It’s awesome
edgy crest
yep