#ot1-perplexing-regexing | Python | Page 461

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:23 AM

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that is not what I expected

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o.__ __.o

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:23 AM

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`__ . __’

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:24 AM

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👁️ 👃🏻 👁️
👄

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Well I tried

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:24 AM

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_ _ on the first line

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to make it drop down a level

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I do that when I'm trying to line stuff up

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_ _
Like this:
_ _ ^

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:25 AM

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==

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:25 AM

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Means compact + cozy display it the same

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:25 AM

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There

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:26 AM

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_ _
~~i . i~~ ~~i . i~~ ~~i . i~~ ~~i . i~~ ~~ . ~~ ~~ . . . ~~ ~~i . i~~ ~~ ~~==++\
~~========================================~~

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:26 AM

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Ot you could use the space emojis in the lemoji tilesets 😉

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See the pins. They use spaces hahah. A big block of emptiness

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:26 AM

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It's a train

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:27 AM

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It’s a ~~locomotive~~ lakmatiol

mellow spire Sep 16, 2020, 5:29 AM

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👁️ 👃🏻 👁️
👅
👕
👖
🩰

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lol

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:29 AM

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/.
.•. •./
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Does that look like a face

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Forgot to _ _ the first line

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_ _ ~~#####~~ ~~#####\~~
~~i . i~~ ~~i . i~~ ~~i . i~~ ~~i . i~~ ~~ . . . ~~ ~~ . . . ~~ ~~i . i~~ ~~ ~~==++||\
~~========================================~~

mellow spire Sep 16, 2020, 5:30 AM

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train

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Breh

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I can’t

mellow spire Sep 16, 2020, 5:31 AM

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nice art

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Bast

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:35 AM

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too bad there's no superscript crossout

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:35 AM

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_ _ ~~#####~~ ~~#####\~~
~~i . i~~ ~~i . i~~ ~~i . i~~ ~~i . i~~ ~~ . . . ~~ ~~ . . . ~~ ~~i . i~~ ~~ ~~==++||\
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wow

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Sadly, it doesn’t look too good On mobile

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 5:36 AM

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  _ __   ___ | | _____ _ __ ___   ___  _ __  
 | '_ \ / _ \| |/ / _ \ '_ ` _ \ / _ \| '_ \ 
 | |_) | (_) |   <  __/ | | | | | (_) | | | |
 | .__/ \___/|_|\_\___|_| |_| |_|\___/|_| |_|
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tada

mellow spire Sep 16, 2020, 5:36 AM

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📎 Screenshot_from_2020-09-16_11-06-19.png

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:36 AM

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That breaks weirdly on mobile

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 5:37 AM

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choo choo

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:37 AM

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For sure

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 5:37 AM

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which one

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:37 AM

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@rough sapphire 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Mobile likes to mess things up

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 5:37 AM

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I am an artist

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Strike through is weirdly low

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:37 AM

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Yeah

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Probably for readability

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:37 AM

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📎 Screen_Shot_2020-09-15_at_22.37.48.png

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My final version

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 5:38 AM

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||_ ____ ____ ____
(o))}}}___}}
'U'0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

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dang

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:38 AM

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————-___######

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#####_____________

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:39 AM

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||_ ____ ____ ____
(o))}}}___}}
'U'0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
@rough sapphire

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drat

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:39 AM

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----_

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:39 AM

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can't chain _ cause discord messes them up

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:39 AM

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•-•

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:39 AM

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you'll need a single space in places

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:39 AM

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||_ ____ ____ ____
(o))}}}___}}
'U'0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:39 AM

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_ _
_ _ _||__ ____ ____ ____
(o)___)}___}}___}}
'U'0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:40 AM

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Do you wanna give the lemoji and pydis snake tilesets a try? I have a testing server just for them, until we’re done with merging and implementing everything

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Check the pins for some examples of the one with lemojis

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@coral void how’s that supposed to look? I don’t quite understand, on mobile

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:42 AM

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📎 Screen_Shot_2020-09-15_at_22.42.09.png

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:42 AM

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I guess it was just a problem with me not understanding it hahah

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:43 AM

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A

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:45 AM

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It's a train going left

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Aaah, I kind of see it now

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 #@#
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late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:47 AM

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  #@#
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   @##
       []
       []
     /[]\

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:48 AM

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\🍁

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:48 AM

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@coral void what do you think of my tree?

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Approve

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:48 AM

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It’s an Apple tree

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:49 AM

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☀️   🍁🍎🍁       🌥🌥
    🍁🍁🍎🍁     🌥🌥🌥
     🍎🍁🍁
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      /||\  
     /\\//\ .  🌻 . o\
=========================

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:49 AM

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that’s art right there

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:49 AM

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\🍎

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:50 AM

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🍎

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:50 AM

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🧤🥑🧤

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:52 AM

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\🌻

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:52 AM

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\🌻

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🌻

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Wait

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How

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:52 AM

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\

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:52 AM

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\🌻

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:53 AM

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Try doing that with emojis. It’ll just result in using your system emojis instead of twemojis

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🥳\🥳

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:54 AM

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🥳\🥳

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:54 AM

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Ah, wait. Maybe they’s what you’re doing and I’m just being deceived by mobile

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 5:54 AM

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\🌥

tranquil orchid Sep 16, 2020, 5:54 AM

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kinda looks like a virus

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:54 AM

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\⬜

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:54 AM

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ducky_lemon

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 5:56 AM

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\☀️

compact jetty Sep 16, 2020, 5:56 AM

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-> /
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narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:57 AM

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A rocket?

compact jetty Sep 16, 2020, 5:57 AM

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yep

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Btw, you can use code blacks if you wanna preview the spaces and have everything make sense

compact jetty Sep 16, 2020, 5:58 AM

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how

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wdym by code balcks

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:59 AM

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compact jetty Sep 16, 2020, 5:59 AM

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ooh

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 5:59 AM

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Hello
   What
      Ok

compact jetty Sep 16, 2020, 5:59 AM

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ok

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Everything looks weird on mobile though

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 6:00 AM

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‘’’
‘’’

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“ code blacks “ lol

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 6:00 AM

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They’re backticks, not single quotes

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!code

royal lakeBOT Sep 16, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Discord has support for Markdown, which allows you to post code with full syntax highlighting. Please use these whenever you paste code, as this helps improve the legibility and makes it easier for us to help you.

To do this, use the following method:

```python
print('Hello world!')
```

Note:
• These are backticks, not quotes. Backticks can usually be found on the tilde key.
• You can also use py as the language instead of python
• The language must be on the first line next to the backticks with no space between them

This will result in the following:

print('Hello world!')

mellow spire Sep 16, 2020, 6:01 AM

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!f-string

royal lakeBOT Sep 16, 2020, 6:01 AM

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In Python, there are several ways to do string interpolation, including using %s's and by using the + operator to concatenate strings together. However, because some of these methods offer poor readability and require typecasting to prevent errors, you should for the most part be using a feature called format strings.

In Python 3.6 or later, we can use f-strings like this:

snake = "Pythons"
print(f"{snake} are some of the largest snakes in the world")

In earlier versions of Python or in projects where backwards compatibility is very important, use str.format() like this:

snake = "Pythons"

# With str.format() you can either use indexes
print("{0} are some of the largest snakes in the world".format(snake))

# Or keyword arguments
print("{family} are some of the largest snakes in the world".format(family=snake))

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 6:01 AM

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But syntax highlighting would be odd for this

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 6:01 AM

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unless you do it right

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would be very hard though

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ini is a popular choice

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 6:01 AM

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I can’t find it

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I’m on mobile

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 6:04 AM

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test

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 6:04 AM

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Imagine using 2 cpus in a single computer

compact jetty Sep 16, 2020, 6:04 AM

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->          
            /\         
           /  \
          /    \
         /      \
        /________\
       |          |
       |          |
       |          |
       |          |
      /            \
     /              \
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euuuu

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 6:04 AM

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if you're on ios

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you have to press and hold on the ' character

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its the quote all the way on the left of the options

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PITA

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 6:05 AM

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Computers could be really fast if you could use more than one cpu/graphics cards

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 6:05 AM

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📎 image0.png

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 6:05 AM

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^

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 6:06 AM

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@narrow pecan dude you just made me realize this mobile function

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 6:06 AM

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I have a shortcut for doing triple backticks though. cbt will get changed to them

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 6:06 AM

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—

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 6:06 AM

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now that is a good idea

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Really handy in help channels when needing to write some code

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 6:06 AM

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narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 6:07 AM

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And cbt stands for Code BackTicks

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@late quest nice!

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 6:07 AM

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(:

compact jetty Sep 16, 2020, 6:08 AM

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/
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pypeek pypeek
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coral void Sep 16, 2020, 6:08 AM

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compact jetty Sep 16, 2020, 6:08 AM

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its all pop

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 6:08 AM

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_ _
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coral void Sep 16, 2020, 6:09 AM

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It's digital bubble wrap

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 6:09 AM

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@coral void you’ve been defeated by chainmailificatuon

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 6:09 AM

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lol

compact jetty Sep 16, 2020, 6:10 AM

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coral void Sep 16, 2020, 6:10 AM

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oak tangle Sep 16, 2020, 6:11 AM

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That's the downside of having spoilers turned off: You don't get to pop bubbles.

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 6:11 AM

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F

compact jetty Sep 16, 2020, 6:12 AM

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late quest Sep 16, 2020, 6:12 AM

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That’s weird

compact jetty Sep 16, 2020, 6:12 AM

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्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 6:13 AM

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it doesn’t make sense :-:

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Struck-through ~ chain

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 6:13 AM

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्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 6:13 AM

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!charinfo ्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र्र

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oh

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wow

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्र

royal lakeBOT Sep 16, 2020, 6:14 AM

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Character Info

\u094d : DEVANAGARI SIGN VIRAMA - ्
\u0930 : DEVANAGARI LETTER RA - र

Full Raw Text

\u094d\u0930

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 6:14 AM

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ल

coral void Sep 16, 2020, 6:14 AM

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Not sure why that one had so many nested

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 6:15 AM

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ख़ ख़ ख़

compact jetty Sep 16, 2020, 6:24 AM

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ख़ ख़ ख़
@late quest u know what this is?

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 7:09 AM

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@compact jetty I have no idea

compact jetty Sep 16, 2020, 7:09 AM

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||THIS IS A SPOILER||

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@compact jetty I have no idea
@late quest then how did u write it

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 7:09 AM

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I just copy and paste it from the link you sent

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actually not you

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The python bot

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L

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Lol

compact jetty Sep 16, 2020, 7:09 AM

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i see, are u using windows

maiden thicket Sep 16, 2020, 7:10 AM

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i see, are u using windows
@compact jetty who me?

compact jetty Sep 16, 2020, 7:10 AM

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no meme guy

maiden thicket Sep 16, 2020, 7:10 AM

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oh ok

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 7:10 AM

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@compact jetty I’m on mobile

compact jetty Sep 16, 2020, 7:10 AM

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i see

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:53 AM

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Guys what are the advantages of using TypeScript instead of JavaScript?

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:58 AM

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It is better. That is one advantage

wooden silo Sep 16, 2020, 8:58 AM

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@lunar shore It adds typechecking to JS. Which makes it easier to catch bugs earlier.

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:58 AM

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Hmmmm

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So like variables are safer right?

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Like I mean

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:58 AM

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Idk, I do not use typescript, it looks cleaner to me when I see it though.

But that may be because eif the programmer

wooden silo Sep 16, 2020, 8:58 AM

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With no typechecking, if you have a type-related error, it will crash at runtime.

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:58 AM

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Oh I see

wooden silo Sep 16, 2020, 8:59 AM

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But if you have typechecking, it will crash when you build the code.

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:59 AM

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I see

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So it works even for JS libraries?

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Like Express even?

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Oh forgot it compiles to JS

wooden silo Sep 16, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Pretty sure it only works if the library was written in TS.

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I mean, you can call JS libraries from TS code.

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Oh so I can use them

wooden silo Sep 16, 2020, 8:59 AM

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But the library code won't be typechecked.

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:59 AM

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I see

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wow

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Kinda pointless to use it then

wooden silo Sep 16, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Why?

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Use it with JS libraries*

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I meant that

wooden silo Sep 16, 2020, 9:00 AM

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I mean, you might need the functionality in the JS library.

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But still want your own code to be typechecked.

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 9:00 AM

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Oh I see

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Thanks for info

wooden silo Sep 16, 2020, 9:01 AM

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No problem

sonic river Sep 16, 2020, 10:56 AM

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You can add type stubs to existing js libs

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 12:14 PM

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https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/Xxj5LyhIWLVc-uj7O3Bjx92rFTcVZASWhhSZb2yLC58/https/i.redd.it/rwwt99vo6en51.jpg?width=605&height=672

lunar jewel Sep 16, 2020, 12:25 PM

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rader water kamui

wooden silo Sep 16, 2020, 12:27 PM

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@hexed tusk Yes, it doesn't make runtime type errors impossible, but it helps prevent them.

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I mean, you can add manual type validation at entry points to your code.

solid pollen Sep 16, 2020, 2:02 PM

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It's me or discord search is broken again?

sand goblet Sep 16, 2020, 2:03 PM

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it's always broken

solid pollen Sep 16, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Is it haha

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 2:10 PM

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What about it?

solid pollen Sep 16, 2020, 2:12 PM

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I get the “we broken the len” message

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Oo. That’s Vad

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Bad*

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Classic

📎 Hey_if_were_underwater_how_could_there_be_a-.mp4

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 3:01 PM

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So sad

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(two sads in a row)

lunar jewel Sep 16, 2020, 3:22 PM

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campfire underwater

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 3:42 PM

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Lovely

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 4:23 PM

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This is truly scary

📎 Screenshot_2020-09-16_at_18.23.28.png

scenic blaze Sep 16, 2020, 4:24 PM

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What's truly scary, light mode?

plucky ridge Sep 16, 2020, 4:27 PM

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It's not that bad

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And for folks who have vision troubles, it's actually a blessing

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Since in dark themes, the letters may blend together

round rose Sep 16, 2020, 4:28 PM

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something something light mode gives you vision troubles if you didn't have them beforehand

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Yes ahah

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Try switching to dark mode for some a few minutes

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Yes, that's a challenge

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 4:30 PM

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something something i can't work at night with the power of the sun blasting me into the next dimension

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Ahhah yes

plucky ridge Sep 16, 2020, 4:30 PM

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See that's fair

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But that's the reason that things like Google Maps will swap to a dark background when it's nighttime

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Or something

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 4:31 PM

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I have it set up so the phone and computer light mode and dark mode follows the sun. It's quite neat

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Discord, though? No, no, no

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 4:32 PM

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yeah but there are good bright themes like solarized

plucky ridge Sep 16, 2020, 4:33 PM

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That's the like.... Sepia one, right?

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 4:33 PM

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eh?

plucky ridge Sep 16, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Kind of like an rusty orangey color?

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 4:34 PM

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a little brighter

plucky ridge Sep 16, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Ohh okay I found it

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That reminds me more of f.lux

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 4:34 PM

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That looks a bit outdated to me

scenic blaze Sep 16, 2020, 4:35 PM

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I ditched f.lux for Iris when it started having flickering issues

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Iris is like a superpowered f.lux anyway

plucky ridge Sep 16, 2020, 4:35 PM

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I ditched it since Windows has it built in

wheat lynx Sep 16, 2020, 4:35 PM

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I ditched it because I switched to manjaro kde plasma, which has it built in

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 4:36 PM

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And I haven't even tried it

scenic blaze Sep 16, 2020, 4:37 PM

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These are the different options Iris has, it's cool. I usually just leave it on Health though

📎 unknown.png

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Where do you have such settings?

wheat lynx Sep 16, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Oh that looks cool, I struggle to see how much all those presets could differ though haha

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 4:39 PM

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"biohacker"

scenic blaze Sep 16, 2020, 4:42 PM

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I want to say biohacker is dark theme plus blue light filter

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programming is just dark theme?

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Yeah, I was right

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it's just really neat. like movie mode increases the brightness to about 120% (so it's beyond the normal max)

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@narrow pecan third party software called Iris that adds filters to your monitor

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Oo, alright. Haven't heard of that before

edgy crest Sep 16, 2020, 4:46 PM

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:>

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i will make a weather app tomorrow

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from a tut

scenic blaze Sep 16, 2020, 4:57 PM

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nice

cloud badger Sep 16, 2020, 6:58 PM

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This is truly scary
@narrow pecan One question: Who th uses light mode?

manic bloom Sep 16, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Um... IDK

bleak lintel Sep 16, 2020, 7:00 PM

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lol

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people can use light mode

manic bloom Sep 16, 2020, 7:00 PM

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If they wish to go blind

terse sluice Sep 16, 2020, 7:00 PM

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discord light mode looks horrible imo

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most light modes look perfectly fine though

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Haha yeah

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I just switched to it make sure the new dice emojis work in both modes

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Guys what Kyu (codewars.com difficulty level) is Codeforces easy (800) difficulty?

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:24 PM

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idk, 8 and 7 are pretty easy, 6 starts to get tough for me, 5 is pretty difficult, 4 takes me like an hour plus to solve usually, idk if ive ever completed a 3

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:24 PM

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Oh I see

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So basically 6 is kinda codeforces easy level?

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:25 PM

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I never used it, but I would compare 7-6 to leetcode's easiest.

They are not super consistent though. Newer challenges tend to be harder than older ones.

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:25 PM

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I see

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So codewars has pretty good questions?

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I'm not getting ready for an interview tho , just like algorithms

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:26 PM

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so 7 can range from beginner to intermediate.

They also span multiple languages so python may have a module where you can one line a problem, but in, say Javascript it would take some knowledge of the math involved

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:26 PM

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I see

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:26 PM

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yeah, codewars is my favorite, I am very active on there.

wheat lynx Sep 16, 2020, 7:26 PM

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I have completed one 3 kyu on codewars, it was a sudoku solver one, but had to be sort of optimised iirc, I had one that I had made already which just worked though lol

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:26 PM

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wow

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:27 PM

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make sure you pay attention to the satisfaction rating, anything under a 90% may not be worth your time

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:27 PM

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I love codewars too tho! It's like great

quick ledge Sep 16, 2020, 7:27 PM

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yeah

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:27 PM

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ohhhh, I think I tried that one then gave up

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Lately I have mostly been trying to flex my points, so I have been doing level 7s and writing my own LOL

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not a good way to learn

remote socket Sep 16, 2020, 7:27 PM

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I am not good at algorithms. I was stuck on the prime number problem in codewars, and I haven't passed it yet because of me running out of time.

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:28 PM

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lol one of kyu 3 js questions is reversing an array in less than some bytes usage , and just by removing the spaces you can EASILY pass it

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:28 PM

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you just need to use an optimized method

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I usually use the sqrt method (idk if it has a real name), but that is one of the slowest of the methods

wheat lynx Sep 16, 2020, 7:28 PM

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I am also not that good at algorithms tbh, and any maths ones

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:28 PM

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WHAT

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Lol me neither

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:28 PM

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LINK

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:28 PM

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@eternal wing Lemme find it in my solved probs

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:28 PM

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I want an easy 3

remote socket Sep 16, 2020, 7:29 PM

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https://www.codewars.com/users/Xithrius are yall able to see this?

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:29 PM

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yes

remote socket Sep 16, 2020, 7:29 PM

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I don't know if users are public

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ah

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:29 PM

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https://www.codewars.com/users/fisher60/

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lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:29 PM

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https://www.codewars.com/kata/59b81886460387d8fc000043/train/javascript

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https://www.codewars.com/kata/59b81886460387d8fc000043/train/javascript is the eaaaasiest problem on the whole site , just remove spaces , submit

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eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:30 PM

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JS 😢

remote socket Sep 16, 2020, 7:30 PM

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if I only knew js

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:30 PM

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LOL

remote socket Sep 16, 2020, 7:30 PM

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lol

wheat lynx Sep 16, 2020, 7:30 PM

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https://www.codewars.com/users/wookie184 while we're sharing

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eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:30 PM

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I think I know enough

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 7:30 PM

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xith flexing his profile

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:31 PM

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dammit, wookie beat me

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nice

remote socket Sep 16, 2020, 7:31 PM

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lmao

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:31 PM

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XDDD

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:31 PM

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and you have a 1% higher satisfaction rating

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dam

remote socket Sep 16, 2020, 7:31 PM

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I don't even know what that means

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 7:31 PM

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I think I'm at 5 but I don't use it that often so I might be able to get higher now

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:31 PM

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his authored kata has 1% better rating than either of mine, LOL

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 7:32 PM

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oof

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:32 PM

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I've been doing this for a week only , but https://www.codewars.com/users/RaderH2O

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Nothing near you guys

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 7:32 PM

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👀

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:32 PM

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XD

wheat lynx Sep 16, 2020, 7:32 PM

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This is one of my favourite kata https://www.codewars.com/kata/5f24315eff32c4002efcfc6a

Codewars

Python Recipes #1 : Function Overloading

yet another easy kata!
Bored of usual python katas? me too;

Overview
As you have guessed from the title of the kata you are going to implement a class that supports function overloadin...

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:32 PM

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I think I was there when you started

wheat lynx Sep 16, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Took me ages to get

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Yeah

wheat lynx Sep 16, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Very interesting

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:33 PM

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You told me I think

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@sonic crystal ?

wheat lynx Sep 16, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Hmm

remote socket Sep 16, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Is that a selfbot?

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yep

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!ban 375240036053942275 selfbot

royal lakeBOT Sep 16, 2020, 7:33 PM

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failmail :ok_hand: applied ban to @sonic crystal permanently.

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:33 PM

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:ban:

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Good

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:34 PM

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dang, so fast I didnt even see it

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:34 PM

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XD

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:34 PM

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welp, I do not even understand this JS syntax, so rip me

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:34 PM

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No one does

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 7:34 PM

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oh I thought someone was actually doing that

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:34 PM

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XD

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Yeah me too

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:35 PM

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const reverse = a => a.reverse(); I mean I literally do not really understand what to do with this

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 7:35 PM

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that's a lambda no?

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 7:35 PM

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that is a pretty stupid function tbqh

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:35 PM

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That's a callback function

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I think

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Not sure

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:35 PM

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I keep my js simpler than this

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 7:35 PM

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it is reverse = lambda a: a.reverse()

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Yeah

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:35 PM

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well, how do I change the value of a when this is called?

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 7:36 PM

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it is a function

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 7:36 PM

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pass it arguments

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 7:36 PM

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reverse('ab')

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:36 PM

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hmm, I mean, how do I define what the function does?

undone berry Sep 16, 2020, 7:36 PM

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that is a pretty stupid function tbqh
Seems fine if you want to use it as a callback for something involving strings no?

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or is there a nicer way to do that in JS?

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:36 PM

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I thought const reverse = a => a.reverse(){} but this gives an error

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 7:36 PM

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a.reverse() is the function body

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I would make the callback inline

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:36 PM

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oh

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 7:37 PM

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though you are right that String.reverse doesn't work

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actually, that one might

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:37 PM

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kk ty

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I get it now

undone berry Sep 16, 2020, 7:38 PM

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that's roughly the same as

function reverse(a) {
    return a.reverse()
}```

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also - apparently reverse is an array method not a string method

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 7:38 PM

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yeah, and arrays have no class

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so I guess if you really do not want to do e => e.reverse() inline, it makes sense

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:40 PM

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ty, this is just the example in the challenge, I was not sure how to interpret it

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I do not understand that kata, the example code is too long xD

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I cannot think of a way to shorten it any more haha

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oh jk, im a doof. Do not need to define the return value as a function

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also update: wow, I ran it again, they do not even check if you used .reverse despite it being against the rules for this problem LOL

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:52 PM

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I love the satisfaction of finishing a problem

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And seeing you went the right way

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the optimal/shortest way*

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:53 PM

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yeah, it makes me feel super validated when that happens

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:53 PM

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Yeaa

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 7:53 PM

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ping wonder if it works everywhere?

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 7:53 PM

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pong!

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 7:53 PM

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hahhahahahahh

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:53 PM

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ive done so many nowadays I will usually quit ones that seem like they take too much time though, lol

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WHAT

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what am I seeing

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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he's self botting

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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ping foreal

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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pong!

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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lol

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so @ mods

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again

remote socket Sep 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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ping?

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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pong!

remote socket Sep 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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ping

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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pong!

remote socket Sep 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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someone else do it

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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enough evidence for me

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ping

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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pong!

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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ping

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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pong!

remote socket Sep 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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!ban 645448334965735457 selfbot

royal lakeBOT Sep 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @river kraken permanently.

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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haha

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:54 PM

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wa

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lmao

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:55 PM

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nice

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:55 PM

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I don't think he was a bot

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:55 PM

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he just has super human reaction times

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:55 PM

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lmao

remote socket Sep 16, 2020, 7:55 PM

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they were doing it in different channels

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:55 PM

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and the ability to know when someone "pings"

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Oh I see

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lol

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:55 PM

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that would suck ass as a "spidey sense"

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Yesss

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and btw

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https://www.codewars.com/kata/52597aa56021e91c93000cb0/train/python why doesn't :

def move_zeros(array):
    ans = []
    zeros = []
    while True:
        try:
            array.pop(array.index(0))
            zeros.append(0)
        except ValueError:
            break
    ans = array + zeros
    return ans

work

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I can't get it

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I tried doing it with for loops at first

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Nothing

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Then I tried this

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Nothing

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Maybe cause it is 12 AM

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And my brain

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acts dumb

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But that should actually work

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 7:59 PM

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how long are the lists?

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 7:59 PM

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rip, I failed a bunch

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wtheck

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:59 PM

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wdym @young shoal

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 7:59 PM

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can't you just sort with a custom key?

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 7:59 PM

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like the length?

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Oh

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what is a custom key 😅

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:00 PM

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oh, false evaluates as 0

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Oh I SEE

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Thanks lmao

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:00 PM

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LOL

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:00 PM

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XDDDDDD

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:00 PM

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such a useful feature, but it is a double edged sword xD

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:00 PM

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XDDDD Yes

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Is None = 0 too?

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:01 PM

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I think so

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 8:01 PM

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no

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Oh

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good

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:01 PM

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well, it would evaluate as false as well

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right?

shell vapor Sep 16, 2020, 8:01 PM

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There's a site I haven't visited in a while...

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 8:01 PM

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it's falsy yeah

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:02 PM

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@shell vapor joiiin ussss

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Don't tell me 0 evaluates as False too..

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:02 PM

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and do my kata

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yes sire

shell vapor Sep 16, 2020, 8:02 PM

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Tomorrow

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:02 PM

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oh no

shell vapor Sep 16, 2020, 8:02 PM

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~~I never finished kee.py~~

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:02 PM

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it seems it does

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:02 PM

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0 == false: True

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:03 PM

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Then lemme just convert them to string

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:03 PM

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why no literal evaluation in python xD

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:03 PM

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lol

shell vapor Sep 16, 2020, 8:03 PM

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literal evaluation?

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I thought using is should bypass this

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like, we need to check if a value is ONLY 0, not False or none

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:03 PM

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lemme try

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:04 PM

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I tried if each is 0 and it evaluates to True on each == False

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:04 PM

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oh I see

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:04 PM

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oh wait, there are also float zeroes

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this one must have an easier solution LOL

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 8:05 PM

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there are also "0"

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:05 PM

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I do not see any string zero yet, but Im sure they are in there

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:05 PM

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lmao

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It's easier at least

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 8:05 PM

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yay solved it

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:05 PM

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there is probably a one line for this with typing

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 8:05 PM

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All you gotta do is manually exclude false

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I think

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:06 PM

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@graceful basin And that would exclude 0

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I think

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 8:06 PM

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no, specifically the literal bool False

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:06 PM

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each is 0 works, but this breaks float zero, string zero, etc

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Either with isinstance

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 8:06 PM

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you can use is False

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Hmmmm

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Or with ^

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:07 PM

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Lemme just convert each to string , then check

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:07 PM

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dont forget about 0.0

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hmmm, I am struggling with this one

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:08 PM

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Yeah I am trying to fix that

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if str(num) == "0" or str(num) == "0.0":

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Still doesn't work

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Hmm

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An Idea

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I could evaluate each 0

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Then check for it

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 8:09 PM

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but why

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Cause that would be the easiest way?

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 8:09 PM

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sure...but you'd use eval

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:09 PM

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I mean

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It isn't unsafe since it's not an application or something

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omg still floats don't work

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Ok I'll check for number type , if it's int or string or float , i'll convert to int and check

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done

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Or no wait

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not string

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:12 PM

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idk why I am failing some. Some zeroes evaluate as zero correctly, but then are not pop()

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:12 PM

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Yeah exactly

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That happens to me too

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Exactly test 2 fails

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Oh well

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:13 PM

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oh wait

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Then we need a counter

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:13 PM

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I think I realized something

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I was pop(), but using enumerate, so the index changes LOL

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Oh lol

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:14 PM

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hmm that just broke it worse jk

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Oof

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:14 PM

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why are some zeroes not poping despite being evaluated properly xD

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:14 PM

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lol

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I will see zero nightmares tonight

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:15 PM

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[9, 0, 9, 1, 2, 1, 1, 3, 1, 9, 0, 0, 9, 0, 0.0, 0, 0.0, 0, 0, 0] HOW

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:15 PM

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(no pun intended)

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:15 PM

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haha

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:15 PM

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XD]

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 8:15 PM

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||z=0 for i,v in enumerate (a): if v==0 and v is not False: z+=1 else: a[i-z]=v if z: a[-z:]=[0]*z return a || is how I did it iirc

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:15 PM

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wow that's smart

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:16 PM

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maybe I just should not use pop()

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but it is so clean

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Yeah maybe

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 8:16 PM

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Are you popping all the zeroes?

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:16 PM

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this is not spoiler because this does not work, but where does my logic break here?

def move_zeros(array):
    for index, each in enumerate(array):
        if each == 0 and each is not False:
            array.append(array.pop(index))
    return array

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:16 PM

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[9, 0, 9, 1, 2, 1, 1, 3, 1, 9, 0, 0, 9, 0.0, 0, 0, 0.0, 0, 0, 0]

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this

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is

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annoying me

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And yes we are popping zeros

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:17 PM

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same

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Because removing an element from an array while iterating skips the next one

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:17 PM

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this gets like 80% correct

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Yeah same

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for

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Try [1,0,0,1]

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:17 PM

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me

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:17 PM

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ohhh duh, I thought that was an error actually, if you modified an array while iterating through it haha

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 8:18 PM

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for dictionaries yeah, but lists will let you

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Oh then we should go one key down after each pop

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 8:18 PM

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Lists will skip elems though

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:19 PM

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lol ty all

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:20 PM

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How can we move one key down in a for loop lol

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 8:20 PM

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use a different method lol

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Oh lol

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 8:21 PM

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Seems like a great usecase for #python-discussion message

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:21 PM

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for num in range(len(array)) should work?

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And I know I have to do array[num]

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 8:22 PM

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I think you would need a while loop and move the index back one when you pop/not move it forward

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:22 PM

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Hmmm

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But

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In a for loop I can decrease the key each time I pop

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If it's used in range

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 8:24 PM

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You can't

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:24 PM

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for num in range(100) e.g , I can't decrease num?

graceful basin Sep 16, 2020, 8:24 PM

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You could keep a counter like I do with z, but range doesn't add 1, it just sets the variable to the next value in the range

lunar shore Sep 16, 2020, 8:25 PM

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Oh...

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counter then

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Thanks for info tho!

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Shouldn't

def move_zeros(array):
    ans = []
    zeros = []
    counter = 0
    for num in array:
        if array[counter] == 0 and array[counter] is not False:
            counter -= 1
            array.pop(counter)
            zeros.append(0)
        counter += 1
    ans = array + zeros
    return ans

work?

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or should I do while?

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 8:34 PM

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I tried a while loop too, but the logic I could think of made it silly to use a while loop

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I ended up going with basically @lakmatiol#8020 solution LOL, but with less finesse

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dammit, these one liners always make me mad

round rose Sep 16, 2020, 8:38 PM

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I mean

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when I see tasks like these, my mind instantly jumps to passing a key to sort

shell vapor Sep 16, 2020, 8:39 PM

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heh

round rose Sep 16, 2020, 8:40 PM

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||```py
sorted(array, key=lambda x: x == 0 and x is not False)

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Oh, you can't spoiler codeblocks apparently

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that's clever

shell vapor Sep 16, 2020, 8:41 PM

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sorted is probably better

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Why do in 3 lines what you can do in one xD

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 8:42 PM

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@round rose that code block is in a spoiler

round rose Sep 16, 2020, 8:42 PM

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It's wrapped in || on both sides, and they disappeared from the output, but the block isn't hidden

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so like

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 8:42 PM

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It is. At least on iOS

round rose Sep 16, 2020, 8:42 PM

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oh, not on desktop

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 8:42 PM

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📎 image0.png

round rose Sep 16, 2020, 8:43 PM

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I can click on it once, but it's revealed from the start

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so the click does nothing for me

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discord being doodoo again smh

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Strange

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I think consistency between clients is something they’ll have to work on tbh

round rose Sep 16, 2020, 8:43 PM

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tbf, codeblocks on mobile are different from codeblocks on desktop, they don't have the syntax highlighting and all that

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so maybe that kind of explains it

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Yeah

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I think that should exist on mobile, though

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As well as previewing markdown

round rose Sep 16, 2020, 8:45 PM

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true, it should

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Fun fact: we have a new set of emojis
dice_1 dice_2 dice_3 dice_4 dice_5 dice_6

round rose Sep 16, 2020, 8:46 PM

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ooh, neat

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I wonder if...

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.roll

median domeBOT Sep 16, 2020, 8:47 PM

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:terning3:

round rose Sep 16, 2020, 8:47 PM

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oh

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 8:47 PM

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oh

round rose Sep 16, 2020, 8:47 PM

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bamboozle

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Urgh. Looks like the names haven’t been updated to work in @median dome

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I’ll open an issue for it

round rose Sep 16, 2020, 8:47 PM

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please do

versed saffron Sep 16, 2020, 8:58 PM

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So I was talking to someone yesterday and they said Kelowna, bc was kinda of a tech hub

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Can someone confirm/deny that

still sky Sep 16, 2020, 9:00 PM

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How do you get EAPOL packets?

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 9:00 PM

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@round rose issue opened. I’ll be fixing it and opening a PR right now

round rose Sep 16, 2020, 9:00 PM

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👍

scenic blaze Sep 16, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Anyone know how to make google sheets not turn a number like 24.0 into 24?

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It's getting really annoying >.>

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nvm figured it out

round rose Sep 16, 2020, 9:20 PM

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probs gotta tweak the formatting on the cell

scenic blaze Sep 16, 2020, 9:20 PM

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But it was annoying to figure out >..

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 9:30 PM

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dice_6

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 10:10 PM

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@undone berry Is your pfp a cup made in blender? I've wondered for literally weeks

undone berry Sep 16, 2020, 10:10 PM

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no - it's literally just a cup of tea

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 10:10 PM

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Like, an actual cup?

stark prawn Sep 16, 2020, 10:11 PM

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A propper cuppa

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Hahah

undone berry Sep 16, 2020, 10:11 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/RateMyTea/comments/7t6k8n/yorkshire_tea_with_a_plain_mug/

r/RateMyTea - Yorkshire tea with a plain mug

55 votes and 17 comments so far on Reddit

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 10:11 PM

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It just looks so animated

undone berry Sep 16, 2020, 10:11 PM

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not my reddit account

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Ahhah so odd

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I guess that's reddit

tranquil orchid Sep 16, 2020, 10:26 PM

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rate my tea lol

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 10:43 PM

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hmmmm, cup of coffee is still up there with my pfp considerations

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Oh no

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Your current one is good

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Everyone can't be tea

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Also @eternal wing, did you see the new dice? 😉

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dice_1 dice_2 dice_3 dice_4 dice_5 dice_6

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 10:45 PM

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I saw that, very nice

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 10:46 PM

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😄

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 10:46 PM

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unfortunately they don't work yet

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 10:46 PM

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dice_1

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what is different

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 10:46 PM

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We just need one more approval on the PR to get it merged

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@rough sapphire These new ones are blurple, like PyDis, use a flat design and are just much sleeker

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lemon_smug

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Yes, exactly

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Like PyDis

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 10:48 PM

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.roll

median domeBOT Sep 16, 2020, 10:48 PM

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:terning3:

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 10:49 PM

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The updated roll command that'll use the new dice

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F1re has already approved of it, but we'll need a second approval. I hope we'll have it ready by tomorrow

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 10:50 PM

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f1re is a really nice guy

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 10:50 PM

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For sure

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 10:54 PM

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so he is not such a menace after all

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^ I hope someone gets that

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 10:55 PM

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hah

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i get it

eternal wing Sep 16, 2020, 10:55 PM

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ty

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 10:55 PM

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thank you for understanding my joke

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 10:55 PM

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Hmm

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 10:55 PM

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it's more like, if no one understood then it really reflects badly on his audience

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:03 PM

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its been days

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and just now i have been prompted to intsall toolbox

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it has been days

terse sluice Sep 16, 2020, 11:08 PM

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f1re is a really nice guy
thank you

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so he is not such a menace after all
hahahah, nice one

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:16 PM

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omg

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intellij finally download

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ITS BEEN DAYS

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not really actually bc i downloaded from toolbox

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but still

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:21 PM

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We now have a functioning and updated roll command again!

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.roll

median domeBOT Sep 16, 2020, 11:21 PM

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dice_4

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:21 PM

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@round rose

sand goblet Sep 16, 2020, 11:22 PM

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That's a new dice

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No more terningkast?

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:22 PM

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Yep, it's a new dice

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the ternings are gone

sand goblet Sep 16, 2020, 11:23 PM

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Well, I guess modernisation was gonna hit eventually :>

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:24 PM

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HAhah I suppose

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If you don't like them, blame me

sand goblet Sep 16, 2020, 11:24 PM

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I do like them, haha

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:24 PM

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We also have logically categorized emojis now

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All logos, python + pydis, lemojis, duckies, "joemojis", jam and dice are together

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:26 PM

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all you ever need in life. com down here at pydis and enjoy your stay.

young shoal Sep 16, 2020, 11:26 PM

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unfortunately they're blurple

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:27 PM

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Blurple is amazing

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For sure, i (this is the same as sqrt(-1) in maths, which is the same as __import__('cmath').sqrt(-1), I suppose)

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:27 PM

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people call me this too much times. idont need an explanation

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:28 PM

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That was for everyone else

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:28 PM

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"hey @rough sapphire your IMAGINARY" what a comic genius

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a kneeslapper if i dont say so myself

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:28 PM

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HAhha that's a quite complex joke

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:29 PM

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you dont understand my sarcasm

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:30 PM

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i laughed so hard that I almost rotated 90° and fell on myself

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I do understand your sarcasm. Maybe you didn't get mine hahah

lost orbit Sep 16, 2020, 11:30 PM

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hey can u guys suggest any good programming u tube channels? i wanna learn more stuff bout python

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:30 PM

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oh thats quite complex

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:30 PM

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I'd recommend Corey Schafer's channel

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:31 PM

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not sure if i can say

lost orbit Sep 16, 2020, 11:31 PM

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ok thanks

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:31 PM

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!resources here are a few more resources to check out

royal lakeBOT Sep 16, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected learning resources that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:31 PM

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seems a utbue channel like htat is imaginary

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so good and unreal

lost orbit Sep 16, 2020, 11:31 PM

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hehehahha

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:31 PM

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Hahah

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:32 PM

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1 may wonder the complexity of this java channel

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:32 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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I searched for maths jokes

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You just brought in j as well??

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:33 PM

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jinkies 1 didn't realize

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:34 PM

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The number you have dialed is imaginary. Please rotate your device 90° and try again.

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This is my actual "not available" message

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I should really change it tbh, but I still have it

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:35 PM

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seriously

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that is awesome

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:35 PM

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ahhah yeahh

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So many of my friends have been confused by it

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And I'm like: "It's a maths joke"

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:37 PM

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i unserstand how they might not get it

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they must think the 90 degrees part if hte only math part of the joke

stark prawn Sep 16, 2020, 11:37 PM

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It's a bit of a strange joke,
It's funny but it does add in the anxiety of phone calls

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Aahah yeah, for sure

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:38 PM

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@stark prawn if yo uget admin are you going to change your pfp to red fluff

stark prawn Sep 16, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Never

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:38 PM

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bc your moderator role is orange

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oh

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:39 PM

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I'm just worried what my employer or teachers will call me and wonder what's up

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:39 PM

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teachers?

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:39 PM

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Teachers and head master/principals. What else?

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:40 PM

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parents

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:40 PM

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They already know about it

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And they wouldn't be surprised

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:40 PM

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what was teir first reaction

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oh

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:40 PM

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I think I was the one to tell them

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They were more like "wait what? Why?"

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:41 PM

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should have said 'why not'. would have left them speechless

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:41 PM

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ahhah

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:41 PM

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what about grand parents

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:42 PM

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They are probably very confused by now

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@stark prawn Do you wanna try it out as well? At least for a week

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And you as well, sqrt(-1)

stark prawn Sep 16, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Try out what?

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:42 PM

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no one calls me

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Changing your no-response thing to that

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The number you have dialed is imaginary. Please rotate your device 90° and try again.

stark prawn Sep 16, 2020, 11:43 PM

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I've never used voice mail in my life.

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Same, kind of. I just set up this one

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:43 PM

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but i might

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:43 PM

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Not sure if it's even left today lemon_thinking

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:44 PM

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and i haven't used my phone for 8 months

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Welp

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:44 PM

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school you know

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need to focus

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 11:44 PM

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ios 14 is out, Im updating right now

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:45 PM

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Hhaah yeah

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:45 PM

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what

uneven pine Sep 16, 2020, 11:45 PM

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I’ve recently picked up an iPad Air gen3

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:45 PM

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I've used the beta for a few months

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:45 PM

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i feel like a boomer

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 11:45 PM

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@uneven pine is it the new ipad?

uneven pine Sep 16, 2020, 11:45 PM

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I’m not an Apple fan,I generally dislike apple

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:45 PM

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"These kids and their air gen3 ipads"

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:45 PM

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The new iPad Air is gen 4

uneven pine Sep 16, 2020, 11:45 PM

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But I have quite enjoyed get utility that it gives me, and I got it for a really good price

stark prawn Sep 16, 2020, 11:45 PM

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iPhones are supposedly quite the hot item in US highschools

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:45 PM

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i like samsung

narrow pecan Sep 16, 2020, 11:46 PM

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I'm planning on getting one. It looks really good so far

rough sapphire Sep 16, 2020, 11:46 PM

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i just want to switch to an andriod phone

uneven pine Sep 16, 2020, 11:46 PM

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3rd Gen is the currently available newest one

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There’s a new one coming out next month

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 11:46 PM

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I like samsung more tbh

uneven pine Sep 16, 2020, 11:47 PM

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But I paid like $150 for this brand new gen3

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Avoid tablets have nothing on this

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 11:47 PM

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but I m not a samsung fan or apple fan, so I dont care wich brand I get, both are great

uneven pine Sep 16, 2020, 11:47 PM

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I’m not an Apple fan but there’s nothing that can compare to this

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I’ve actually replaced my laptop with it

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 11:47 PM

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your ipad?

uneven pine Sep 16, 2020, 11:47 PM

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Yeah

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I never understood how pride could live with just an iPad until I had this one

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 11:48 PM

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wow

uneven pine Sep 16, 2020, 11:48 PM

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People **

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I’m not so good at typing on it yet though

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 11:48 PM

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this ipad is really powerful, it has the latest chip, A14 bionic

uneven pine Sep 16, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Only had it for a few days

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Mines got the a12

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 11:49 PM

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oh, but still powerful

uneven pine Sep 16, 2020, 11:49 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

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I’ve got this simulator setup in the middle of the room, displaced from the rest of my pc

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Makes it really nice just to use discord in the tablet

late quest Sep 16, 2020, 11:51 PM

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cool, I hope I can have one of these, one day

lone verge Sep 16, 2020, 11:55 PM

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@uneven pine ay i got one of those as well!

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i use it to play forza horizon 4 on my pc

upper sand Sep 16, 2020, 11:57 PM

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mannn i m just jealouss

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..................

narrow pecan Sep 17, 2020, 12:00 AM

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So what's this name about?

uneven pine Sep 17, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Fh4 sucks with a wheel imo

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Feels like you're on rails

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Gives me motion sickness

upper sand Sep 17, 2020, 12:02 AM

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u can just git rid of that wheel to my address if u dont like it

uneven pine Sep 17, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Fm7 is fine with the wheel though

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I use the wheel for many other things buddy :p

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📎 20200916_190313.jpg

upper sand Sep 17, 2020, 12:05 AM

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flexing too much.. kid...

pale raft Sep 17, 2020, 12:25 AM

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someone good at golang?

undone berry Sep 17, 2020, 12:26 AM

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probably. You might have better luck on a general programming server like The Coding Den: https://discord.gg/code

pale raft Sep 17, 2020, 12:27 AM

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hey thanks bud

bleak lintel Sep 17, 2020, 12:28 AM

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or uh

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https://discord.gg/0f1SbxBZjYoCtNPP

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@pale raft

pale raft Sep 17, 2020, 12:29 AM

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thanks bud 😉

rancid forge Sep 17, 2020, 1:07 AM

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adding python methods to kotlin

📎 unknown.png

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 1:59 AM

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People write fan fictions about lemon?

uneven pine Sep 17, 2020, 2:00 AM

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I low-key hate languages that use the keyword "fun"

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 2:00 AM

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I'd read them tbh

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@uneven pine short for function or what?

uneven pine Sep 17, 2020, 2:00 AM

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Yeah

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It's like "haha look our language is so cute"

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No.

topaz aurora Sep 17, 2020, 2:01 AM

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fn for a compromise

uneven pine Sep 17, 2020, 2:02 AM

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I like pythons def, I'm a fan of rusts fn, I'm even done with writing out the whole word function

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I'm even okay mostly with C++'s return-type-is-function-declaration style

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 2:03 AM

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If it were up to me, the keyword would have been func

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But def is fine

uneven pine Sep 17, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Func is also acceptable.

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 2:03 AM

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But maybe that's too similar to another word for some people

uneven pine Sep 17, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Really I just hate fun.

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 2:04 AM

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Do you hate the band fun?

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Because I wish they had another album

topaz aurora Sep 17, 2020, 2:04 AM

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What about defun?

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 2:04 AM

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What about defunc

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And then every time someone does an xy problem question, I can be like defunc?

uneven pine Sep 17, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Never heard of either of those

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Buy they're seriously cursed

young shoal Sep 17, 2020, 2:09 AM

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defun sounds not fun

topaz aurora Sep 17, 2020, 2:13 AM

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It removes the fun

young shoal Sep 17, 2020, 2:47 AM

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and yet, you are still functor

rough sapphire Sep 17, 2020, 2:47 AM

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baba chi

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that was supposed to be drum sound effects

rough sapphire Sep 17, 2020, 3:13 AM

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it's badum tss

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🥁

graceful basin Sep 17, 2020, 4:51 AM

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What about (define (lambda () (+ 2 2)))

tranquil orchid Sep 17, 2020, 4:51 AM

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lemon fan fictions 😳

mild abyss Sep 17, 2020, 5:05 AM

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lemon fan fictions sounds 😏

edgy crest Sep 17, 2020, 5:06 AM

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lemon_pika

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lemachu

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 5:30 AM

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@marsh hatch language correctness is defined entirely by what ways language is actually used. Before writing or even governmental institutions existed, people didn't worry that the way they used language couldn't possibly be correct without some institution existing to tell them how to use it.

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 5:30 AM

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The Académie isn't so different from PEP8 really is it?

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 5:30 AM

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well, Python is a formal language

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 5:31 AM

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It's setting out standards that people can choose to use

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Allowing for unambiguous understanding

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 5:31 AM

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human language is entirely organic

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 5:32 AM

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It is, and the Académie rules shouldn't be taken as being more correct than organic usage

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But they have a use

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 5:32 AM

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My understanding is that Academie rules are treated as being definitively correct, even if they deviate from the way language is actually used.

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 5:32 AM

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Human language is regularly used in formal situations where the meaning is important

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Correct by whom?

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 5:33 AM

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but even if the rules they give represent a subset of the rules French speakers implicitly follow, it's the fact that French speakers implicitly follow them that legitimizes them, and not the Académie.

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 5:34 AM

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Consider the law for example. As language evolves the meaning of a law might change. But if the you have something like the Académie setting down strict usage then you can avoid issues in cases like that

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 5:35 AM

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I don't know enough about how language is used in different legal systems to comment on that, but it's not the same as colloquial language use.

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Well precisely

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But people fall back to more formal definitions when talking cross culturally even within the same language

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 5:35 AM

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I don't think the Académie attempts to focus on legal definitions.

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Because it reduces the chance of misunderstanding

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Their definitions aren't binding in any way

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But the point is that law is an example where the strict definition of terms is useful

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And having a body like the Académie to point to might be helpful

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 5:37 AM

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I think when it's important that a word have a specific definition in a legal context, a given legal system will define that word internally

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but I'll have to look into that

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Typically they would yeah

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Although again that is going to differ between common law and civil law systems

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 5:40 AM

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well, my point is that purporting to have authority over language use is very different from attempting to describe language use

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 5:40 AM

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And the French have a pretty old Civil Law system, so maybe it's no surprise they have codified language standards too

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 5:40 AM

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and organizations that purport to have authority over a language in general should not be taken seriously.

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admittedly I have a sample size of one, but the one French speaker I asked said that whether a word is a legitimate word in French is defined exactly by whether or not the Académie says it is.

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 5:42 AM

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Legitimate for what purpose though?

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 5:42 AM

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any

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that is, in the mind of this person, any sentence that could be construed as being a sentence in French is not a sentence in French if it contains a single word that is not considered to be a French word by the Académie, regardless of any other factor.

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I don't know how widely held that view is, or how many French speakers implicitly believe that, or if they would still believe it if it were conveyed in that way.

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 5:46 AM

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I mean the Académie word for computer is l'ordinateur

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But I'm fairly certain that many French people just say le computer

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It might not be legitimate written formal French, but French people don't not have slang/colloquialism

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 5:48 AM

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well, what is legitimate written formal French?

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Like what the Academie defines I meant

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 5:48 AM

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I'm sure there are style guides for that, and following them is probably the way to go if you want your work to be received by your intended audience

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but that doesn't legitimize it in some fundamental way

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 5:49 AM

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They are effectively the official style guide though right?

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 5:49 AM

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what makes it "official"?

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it can't be whatever style guide comes from the Académie because French existed before them

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 5:50 AM

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I mean it did yes, but 400 years is a pretty long time

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Language is organic. But there is absolutely value in providing structure.

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 5:53 AM

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I agree. My point is that describing existing structure and declaring what definitively is correct structure are different things, and the latter is baseless.

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If someone takes a long look at how language is being used and describes different approaches within the same language, I wouldn't mind if they gave their opinion about why they think one is preferable in some way

topaz aurora Sep 17, 2020, 5:57 AM

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And then every time someone does an xy problem question, I can be like defunc?
@frozen crane I didn't get that until now

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 5:58 AM

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It's not baseless. It's unenforceable.

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But if people choose to use it then it works

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 5:58 AM

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I hope I'm not coming off as confrontational but this is something I've been passionate about for many years, and prescriptivism often fuels elitism.

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Maybe I'm a bit of an elitist. But the meaning we give to language is important. I'm all for it changing organically, but I also find things like 'literally' becoming acceptably useable to mean it's original opposite rather stupid

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:01 AM

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to be clear, I'm not accusing you of elitism. I'm thinking mainly about language discrimination in the US and I assume that you are in fact Welsh and living in the UK.

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:02 AM

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I'm British living overseas

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:02 AM

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It's an interesting point you bring up though. I agree that "literally" could be a useful tool for disambiguation, but there's actually a precedent for words meaning "not figuratively" being used as an intensifier.

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"very" used to mean "literally"

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:02 AM

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I'm terrible at languages but good at things like maths. Perhaps that's why I like rules

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:04 AM

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in formal contexts (and by formal I mean "following an official pattern" rather than "fancy") it's important that words have specific definitions for that context. like in math

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:04 AM

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I think one of my favourites is "oversight"

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If there "is oversight" it could mean two opposite things

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:05 AM

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I saw a linguistics meme pointing out the distinction between "poisonous" and "venomous" and for most people the distinction doesn't matter, but I assume that it does in research papers about whatever branch of biology deals with that.

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:06 AM

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I'm also a pedant so shit like venomous/poisonous is my lifeblood

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:06 AM

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I see

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Arguably I think strict definitions might be almost more important in the internet age where there is very little in the way of outside cues/context to inform the reader

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:08 AM

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I work at a coffee shop decreasingly often as time goes by (I'm down to eight hours a week or less and I expect they may one day tell me that it's not worth keeping me on the payroll) and it gets frustrating when customers use the word "coffee" to refer to anything that contains a non-zero amount of dissolved coffee solids.

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:08 AM

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Coffee is black. Anything else is milk

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:09 AM

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I would only use the word "coffee" to refer to "regular coffee" (which lacks a more specific term in my dialect) regardless of what else is added, and everything else requires some kind of specifier.

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"cold brew" is coffee but can't be referred to as "coffee" because then "coffee" can't be guaranteed to refer to, well, coffee

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Not an Italian then...

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:10 AM

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In my use, espresso follows the same rule

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espresso belongs to a subset of coffee, but you have to call it espresso

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:10 AM

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Yeah definitely not Italian haha

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:11 AM

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I like espresso

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:11 AM

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"expresso" shudder

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:11 AM

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yeah people who call it expresso are not it.

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but "espresso" and "express" are etymologically related so it's relatively low on the list of things I lose sleep over.

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asking for "coffee" and getting mad that you didn't get a latte, though

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I can't deal with that.

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Ah the latte. Coffee for people that don't like coffee

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Coffee elitism is real

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:13 AM

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depends on the espresso to milk ratio

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:13 AM

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And I will not apologise

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:13 AM

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but I know most of my customers who get lattes do so because they hate coffee and don't want to accept it

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they typically order them with high milk-to-espresso ratios

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I also ask people unexpected questions while I serve them for their amusement and one of them is "what do you like most about x" where x is whatever they ordered

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or something related to what they ordered

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so if they order a pumpkin spice latte, I'll ask them what they like most about pumpkins, and they will always say "the taste". They may or may not ask me what I like about pumpkins, but in their case I'll tell them that I like to throw pumpkins at people I don't like.

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:15 AM

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Lol

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:15 AM

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the question I usually ask is "What do you wanna talk about?"

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:15 AM

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"What do you like about Nitro Cold Brew?" It looks like I'm drinking Guinness

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:16 AM

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oh that's another thing I'll say

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they'll ask "what is nitro cold brew?" and I'll just say "beer"

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though that stems from a conversation I had with my supervisor many years ago

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I knew even less about wine then than I do now (and that's not much) but he said he had some Shiraz, and I knew from the context that it's wine. But I wanted to know if it was white or red, so I asked "what is shiraz?"

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and he said "beer"

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nitro cold brew is overrated though

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coffee isn't substantial enough to maintain the foam

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but that's the whole point

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so you better chug that thing if you want to get the nitro experience

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:18 AM

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You're drinking too slowly

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so you better chug that thing if you want to get the nitro experience
@frozen crane haha was about to say

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I'm mainlining that shit

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:19 AM

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I mean, I take at least two minutes to drink a doppio

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and I stir it first

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:19 AM

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I have to forcibly stop myself getting a second coffee at home too quickly else I'd be onto a third before 10am

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:19 AM

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what do you use to make it?

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:20 AM

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Eh where I am now is just a cheap pod machine

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I used to use a french press or moka at home

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:20 AM

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is that pod machine on a high floor of the building that it's in?

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and is there a window nearby?

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Ha

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:21 AM

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I've had coffee from a pod machine a few times and I don't understand why people buy them

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but I feel like manufacturing them is immoral

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:22 AM

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It's incredibly convenient I think

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You can get little reusable pods now that you fill with your own grounds

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At least for some systems

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:22 AM

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if pod machines were the only way to make coffee, I'd give all the people involved in coffee cultivation and production a break and just stop drinking it

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it's like you're drinking their cries

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:23 AM

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Something like this https://podstar.com.au/

Star Eco Products

Pod Star - The reusable stainless steel coffee capsule

Pod Star capsules are REUSABLE stainless steel pods that can be used in your Nespresso, Aldi Expressi, Espressotoria, Caffitaly or Verismo machine. Simply fill them with your favourite coffee and use the waste grounds in your garden.

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:23 AM

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lol verismo machine

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those are discontinued

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(because they're so bad)

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I have a french press but I don't like the taste of the oils

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though I do have a siphon that I use occasionally for the lulz

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:25 AM

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My issue with a french press is I leave it wayyyyy longer than you should

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Which I don't really mind

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:26 AM

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...how long?

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:26 AM

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But others are less happy with black sludge

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:26 AM

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oh dear

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:26 AM

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My record is probably like 12-15 mins

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:26 AM

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I mean that's better than... overnight

marsh hatch Sep 17, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Ha

frozen crane Sep 17, 2020, 6:32 AM

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I guess I should go to sleep so that I can wake up and have coffee

rough sapphire Sep 17, 2020, 1:02 PM

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@shell raptor hehe there is only 1 person to fix errors and, 9999999999999999999999999999 people to make errors 🙂

shell raptor Sep 17, 2020, 1:04 PM

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lemon_unamused

young shoal Sep 17, 2020, 1:05 PM

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that's pretty good

hoary steppe Sep 17, 2020, 1:12 PM

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fan