ot1-perplexing-regexing

[young shoal]

oh

i thought it was colemak related

[scenic blaze]

Sorry to disappoint

[tranquil orchid]

lmao

[young shoal]

bruh i forgot i had to restart my intellij after editing vimrc :////

spent so long

[topaz aurora]

Parsing is fun

>>> expr_parser.parseString("(foo 42 42 42.2 42/21)")
([<Symbol 'foo' @ 0x7fb4d81d23d0>, <Numeric '42' @ 0x7fb4d81d2460>, <Numeric '42' @ 0x7fb4d81d2640>, <Numeric '42.2' @ 0x7fb4d81d2820>, Fraction(2, 1)], {})

I'm pretty sure I can still condense this pretty well

[eternal wing]

ah yes, quite parse, very integral

[mild abyss]

@topaz aurora kakoi 😮

is | a union operator?

[cursive abyss]

@mild abyss isn't it bitwise or?

[rich moon]

i think so too

[topaz aurora]

Yeah it's bitwise or

[mild abyss]

ah i see

so wahts ^?

[cursive abyss]

^ is xor

[topaz aurora]

But pyparsing uses it as the MatchFirst construct

[mild abyss]

@cursive abyss nice music tho

[topaz aurora]

| tries all parsers from left-to-right, short-circuiting on the first one that matches, ^ on the other hand tries all parsers regardless

[cursive abyss]

@mild abyss thank you ^^

[mild abyss]

| tries all parsers from left-to-right, short-circuiting on the first one that matches, ^ on the other hand tries all parsers regardless
@topaz aurora short circuiting means? T_T

skipping ?

[topaz aurora]

It skips the rest

Short-circuiting is a term I got used to because of Hasekll lol

[mild abyss]

i see coooool

pp.regex sounds funny haha

[lunar shore]

Guys should I use Javascript or Python for leetcode questions? I mean I'm comfortable with both , almost the same level of knoweledge on both too

[eternal wing]

pythoooonnnnnn

I mean, you are asking Pydis xD

[lunar shore]

lol what's pydis

[rich moon]

python is really nice to write for leetcode

not sure about js tho

[young shoal]

js for cp?

[rich moon]

brackets doesnt seem fun

[lunar shore]

I mean some functions are shorter in js , some in python

[rich moon]

with their editor

can u even match brackets?

[lunar shore]

I don't hate brackets . I don't mind them actually

[eternal wing]

lol what's pydis
@lunar shore @ mods

[lunar shore]

Oh

[rich moon]

also is the ; nessarry for js?

[eternal wing]

pydis is the name of this server "Python Discord"

[lunar shore]

No @rich moon

Oh

[young shoal]

it's not?

[rich moon]

ah so ive just been using it like java

[lunar shore]

It's not neccessary no

You "can" put them just like python

[rich moon]

ah

ive always put them there

but then i never properly learned js

[lunar shore]

ikr the syntax is a bit weird

But still so many functions

That could help you in middle of either a competetive problem , or just a simple leetcode problem

[rich moon]

at the end of the day most of the code u write for leetcode is rather similar for all the languages

[lunar shore]

Yep

[rich moon]

most difference is prob syntax

[lunar shore]

right

[young shoal]

it's not supposed to test your knowledge of the language but the alg

[rich moon]

so i guess pick whatever lang u like

[lunar shore]

Oh then ... but I like both ._.

[cursive abyss]

flip a coin...

[lunar shore]

yeah that could work lol

wow my problem solving literally SUCKS now

welp

[eternal wing]

haha

[lunar shore]

shouldn't have taken a long break

[young shoal]

just think harder

[lunar shore]

I am trying

It just ... doesn't seem to ... I don't see any solutions in my mind

And it's an easy problem

Not even medium lol

[young shoal]

what's the problem?

[lunar shore]

Oh wait something came to my mind . And the prob https://www.codewars.com/kata/5e5acfe31b1c240012717a78 the easiest prob as someone said

I just found out something lol

[young shoal]

just check the type?

[eternal wing]

its not online because I wrote it haha

[lunar shore]

Yeah I did that

rn

[cursive abyss]

ask him for a hint if you're stuck. lol

[lunar shore]

lol

[eternal wing]

there are a few ways to do it. It is meant to just test a programmer's knowledge of data types.

there are a few ways to solve it. There is an easier brute force way, and a fancy way that I really like

[lunar shore]

And you know , I nowadays always come up with the harder and longer solution and irdk why

[eternal wing]

I am also playing a game rn, so limited hints xD

[lunar shore]

lol

[rich moon]

simple is usually best

[lunar shore]

Like when I see the problem solution's that I solved , I am like : "Was...did I just hardcode a very simple problem"

[rich moon]

some of the problems using builtins make it really nice

[eternal wing]

the intended solution is pretty hacky, but you can get pretty creative

[rich moon]

so u dont need to remake them

[lunar shore]

I see

[eternal wing]

let me know if you need any specific hints, haha

[lunar shore]

lol

I just wanna know that is this :

def make_model_year(lst):
    dictionary = {}
    for i in lst:
        if type(i) == str:
            dictionary["make"] = i
        elif type(i) == int:
            dictionary["year"] = i
        elif type(i) == tuple:
            k = ""
            for a in i:
                k += a + " "
            dictionary["model"] = k.strip()
        elif type(i) == bool:
            dictionary["new"] = i
    return dictionary

the better solution?

[eternal wing]

that is on par with the simpler solution

[lunar shore]

Oh so we have a simpler solution

[eternal wing]

well, I mean, a harder, but simple and condensed solution

[lunar shore]

Ohh

This ?

id_=lambda k: lambda v: (k,v)

CONFIG = {
    bool:  id_('new'),
    int:   id_('year'),
    tuple: lambda t:('model',' '.join(t)),
    str:   id_('make'),
}

def make_model_year(lst):
    return dict( CONFIG[type(data)](data) for data in lst)

[eternal wing]

anything that uses the type as the key I consider the more advanced solution

[lunar shore]

Oh I see

[eternal wing]

that one is just crazy haha

[lunar shore]

XD yea

ike

ikr

I would've never came up with that

[eternal wing]

this is the one I consider most elegant and easy to follow

def make_model_year(lst):
    new, year, make, model = sorted(lst, key=lambda i: str(type(i)))
    return {'make':make, 'model':' '.join(model), 'year':year, 'new':new}

yeah, that first one is crazy

[lunar shore]

wow that's short

I mean I could've used an array for the keys?

And do the if in the for

I think

[eternal wing]

this is my original solution and the reason it is a lvl 7 kata

def make_model_year(lst):
    for each in lst:
        tp = type(each)
        if tp == int:
            year = each
        elif tp == str:
            make = each
        elif tp == bool:
            new = each
        else:
            model = ' '.join(each)
    return {'make': make, 'model': model, 'year': year, 'new': new}

[lunar shore]

Hmmm

I see

[eternal wing]

there are some good ones on here though, you just click "kata" and you can search by difficulty

[lunar shore]

Oh so join basically takes an iterable and put the string you tell it in between the items right?

[eternal wing]

yeah exactly

[lunar shore]

I don't know even some basic python syntax . some tho

Like this join

idk maybe w3schools has good reference sheet?

[eternal wing]

do you understand it now? or is there still anything you are confused about?

[lunar shore]

Oh oh yeah I can read code . I just have problems with coming up with a basic solution

[eternal wing]

oh I see. I like codewars for staying "fresh" I also learn about a TON of built-ins by either making bad solutions and seeing others, or outright failing, then learning how the top solutions work

[lunar shore]

I see

And

Is codingGame good too?

Like for some basic ones

It has competetions that could kinda force u to improve

Probably

Anyways , thanks for help lol

omg I'm starting to like this :

D = {int:   (lambda x: ('year', x)),
     str:   (lambda x: ('make', x)),
     tuple: (lambda x: ('model', ' '.join(x))),
     bool:  (lambda x: ('new', x))}

def make_model_year(lst):
    return dict(D[type(x)](x) for x in lst)

solution

[eternal wing]

yeah, that one was pretty cool too xD

[upper sand]

😏

[mild abyss]

i see haskell is great.

😮

it is way faster too 🤔 should i learn it too?

[eternal wing]

just learn Python. Python is all you need xD

idk, next on my list is Go

[topaz aurora]

it is way faster too 🤔 should i learn it too?
@mild abyss That depends really

Optimizing Haskell requires a bit of knowledge with data structures and algorithms

[mild abyss]

Optimizing Haskell requires a bit of knowledge with data structures and algorithms
@topaz aurora i see i suck at math and logic so off you go haskell

[topaz aurora]

You don't really get speed from Haskell, you get type safety

You also get formal verification

Although you can get speed with Haskell, you'd probably want to leave that to internal-facing unsafe code, much like Rust does

I gotta write a Python extension in Haskell/Rust some time

[tranquil orchid]

I should try Go at some point

Looking at it it actually seems quite nice

And fairly easy syntax wise

[topaz aurora]

Generics tho

Also the parser is almost complete

The code looks horrendous though

[mild abyss]

lol it is readable tho

[tranquil orchid]

whats this symbol?

[topaz aurora]

<<=

In-place left bit-shift

[stark prawn]

It's a ligature

[quick ledge]

with reference to this message
https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/635950537262759947/752734884060987493

how to set up a linter screaming at me?

[topaz aurora]

I've done it

s_expression_parser.parseString("((fn [x y] (+ x y)) 42 42)")[0].evaluate(env)
<Numeric '84' @ 0x7fac90937700>

[quick ledge]

cool

[topaz aurora]

how to set up a linter screaming at me?
@quick ledge Depends on your editor

[quick ledge]

i use vs code

[topaz aurora]

You should be able to enable pylint or flake8 linting in the Python Extension

[prime aspen]

what about mypy?

[topaz aurora]

That's handled by pyright iirc

[prime aspen]

Xith Lord wwwww

[rough sapphire]

userscripts are fun. I wrote this one.

// ==UserScript==
// @name     scrollToEndOfContent
// @version  1
// @grant    none
// ==/UserScript==

// PAGEDOWN to start endless auto scrolling to bottom.
// PAGEUP to stop autoscroll

document.onkeyup = getKey;
let interval
function getKey() {
    if (event.keyCode == 33) {
        console.log("Page Up Pressed")
        window.clearInterval(interval);
    } else if (event.keyCode == 34) {
        console.log("Page Down Pressed")
        interval = setInterval(function() {
            window.scrollTo(0, document.body.scrollHeight);
        }, 1000);
    };
}

I'll probably start making these all the time since Im always thinking of some hack to improve a site I visit.

But usally its not worth it to manually paste JS in the console. But if you can get it to trigger every time with greasemonkey thats pretty cool

[rough sapphire]

This type of script is good when you need all the content to load so that you can export the HTML and do stuff with it.

[quick ledge]

You should be able to enable pylint or flake8 linting in the Python Extension
@topaz aurora oi thanks

I think I have pylint but it doesn't scream at me 🤔. lemme check

[topaz aurora]

You could use the pre-commit hooks

[prime aspen]

@topaz aurora How to pre-commit hook

[topaz aurora]

You'd typically want to pip-install it then do pre-commit install on your repository

[solid pollen]

After configuring it

:P

[prime aspen]

dont get it

[topaz aurora]

of course

[prime aspen]

am bad at computer

[solid pollen]

I need this lemon_tongue emoji

Hold on, I'm opening the PR haha

[topaz aurora]

@prime aspen You could check out @median dome, the development set up makes use of pre-commit

[prime aspen]

Thank you FOSS

I'll check out Red-DiscordBot's hooks too, gotta diversify my kit

[solid pollen]

There we go

[prime aspen]

Gotta hate how my FOSS contributions are just typo fixes

[solid pollen]

You have to begin somewhere

[prime aspen]

I don't think I'm gonna get anywhere tbh

CS isn't even my minor

[rough sapphire]

I've kind of stopped expecting that I'm eventually going to make contributions that matter. At this point programming is just a series of tools that enhance my own use of my computer, which is my hobby.

I'm a hell of a lot better at my computer than I used to be but almost everything is for me.

Still worth it imo

[topaz aurora]

I might end up contributing to open source software if I can't get internships while doing Uni

[undone berry]

where are you going to study for uni?

as in country

not necessarily specific university

[prime aspen]

'Merica fuck yea'?

[topaz aurora]

Some fancy uni in the Philippines

[prime aspen]

Shit you're close to me

[undone berry]

Fair. I don't know anything about PH, but in the EU/US you'd have no trouble finding internships if you took the time to make a decent looking CV

[topaz aurora]

My current curriculum includes an immersion program though I'm not quite sure if recent developments would allow for that, plus, it'd probably won't be related to CS either way

I tried looking for openings the other day and most of them required me to finish CS

[rancid forge]

Kotlin Discord updated their logo

[sand goblet]

That's our primary logo, yeah

It's been the primary logo for a while, discord colour scheme is nice to see if a lot of servers use it

[rough sapphire]

Apparently greyple is also a color

[sand goblet]

yup

[rough sapphire]

VueLand needs to get with the program.

[mild abyss]

Some fancy uni in the Philippines
@topaz aurora what uni are you aiming for?

@rough sapphire can i have a link to that discord?

i will learn vue by next month

:3

[rough sapphire]

https://discord.gg/vue

[mild abyss]

thanks

[topaz aurora]

UP or Ateneo

jk I can't afford the latter

[mild abyss]

pretty sure you will get a scholarship in no time good luck! :3

https://www.edukasyon.ph

i think you already know this website @topaz aurora

[topaz aurora]

Nope

[mild abyss]

well try navigating there maybe it will help

[topaz aurora]

Looking through UPD's CS program makes me wanna study there

[mild abyss]

i wish you to pass the up entrance exams and pass upd :3

[topaz aurora]

many thanks

[solid pollen]

I’m sure you can do it

[mild abyss]

@topaz aurora do you plan to get a DOST scholarship? or any scholarship?

[topaz aurora]

Not sure

Still haven't read up on it until now

Maybe I'm just too nihilistic about them

[mild abyss]

you probably need it.

but UP is known to care less about mental health so...

@topaz aurora what year are you again?

[topaz aurora]

12th

That's why I'm also considering Ateneo

[mild abyss]

i see. hmmm maybe you should apply for dost scholarship for now to play safe

https://www.science-scholarships.ph/ go here. the deadline is extended to september 30 so dont mind the “deadlines” there.

[quick ledge]

how are the entrance tests in PH?

[green palm]

imagine someone writing python in python

I know that pypy exists

but like

super slow python

where you lex, parse, and interpret python, written in pure python

*Cpython

[solid pollen]

PyPy is actually faster than CPython

It isn't actual python

[green palm]

Ik

[solid pollen]

It is really weird

[green palm]

Im just saying

what if someone wrote python in cpython

instead of restriced

[ython

[solid pollen]

I think it is a subset of python compiled to machine code? I don't remember

Ah yeah

It is on my todo list actually haha

[green palm]

Lol

[solid pollen]

At least bytecode processing

Not compiling, 'cause laziness

[green palm]

k

[topaz aurora]

LLVM Python

[cerulean venture]

hello does anyone knowws about .dll files??

[mellow cobalt]

Work is stressful. We're trying to bring a service called Onewan over to America, and not sure how it will do here...

Its a service that gives you a 10GB Linux VM that you can use to develop, or use for anything you want.

[eternal wing]

aws has free tier VPS doe

[mellow cobalt]

but you need an account to use that

In China its useful since theres not many providing VMs that are disposable like this, but in the US, theres multiple providers that offer it.

[eternal wing]

yeah, here it is fairly easy. If I ever need a throw away, I just use EC2/S3, digital ocean is also not super expensive though

[mellow cobalt]

We might be banned in China for offering a service that lets anyone upload anything and doesnt store personally identifiable information about who uploaded it

[eternal wing]

oof, that is a bummer.

There is certainly a large market for it here. But there are quite a few major providers already

[mellow cobalt]

For example if someone uploaded something that the CCP didn't like, they would come to us and request the data of the user, and we would tell them that theres no data on the person since we dont store data on files uploaded to our public storage service

[mental bison]

if every nation just decided to not fight eachother we could probably launch a dog to space every other day

[lofty dirge]

seems like storing data like that is problematic at all

[rich moon]

privacy.....

[lofty dirge]

if someone uploaded pirated data or worse for distribution

[rich moon]

big issue

with so many ppl

[mellow cobalt]

if someone uploaded pirated data or worse for distribution
@lofty dirge thats what people use our public storage service for mostly

music, movie, and other forms of piracy. Since the webapp works in the US and China, its a good way to send files to friends in China without the CCP monitoring it

[lofty dirge]

yea, that probably won't last long

[mellow cobalt]

and thats why I am fearful of us getting banned

[lofty dirge]

US government may not take kindly to it

[mellow cobalt]

Theres lots of 18+ content uploaded... An estimated 20GB per day is just adult content being shared between the US and China

[lofty dirge]

well, have fun with that

[eternal wing]

yeah, I dont think anyone appreciates that xD

[lofty dirge]

yea, that's asking for visit from law enforcement

[mellow cobalt]

Most NSFW content gets removed quickly

[eternal wing]

you ever hear of the "Silk Road?" haha did not end well

[lofty dirge]

or Kim Dotcom

[mellow cobalt]

I've heard of both of those

It hasn't been used for anything evil to my knowledge, and no pirating movies is not evil

[lofty dirge]

if you can read the content, failure to attempt to screen the content can result in issues

[mellow cobalt]

There is a moderated version, and an unmoderated version

The unmoderated version is moderated for highly illiegal content, but stuff like pirated songs and movies and NSFW stuff is allowed.

if you can read the content, failure to attempt to screen the content can result in issues
@lofty dirge Anyone can view anything thats been uploaded. All uploads are publicly accessible unless you are on a cloned version with that removed.

[scenic blaze]

Man, I'm going nuts. I'm trying to push things to github with my new corporate account, but I keep committing/pushing with my old personal account

I shouldn't even be able to do it

[eternal wing]

lol, that is frustrating

[undone berry]

did you land a fulltime role?

[scenic blaze]

Indeed I did 🙂

[undone berry]

ay - congrats

[eternal wing]

awesome!

[scenic blaze]

Thank you!

[eternal wing]

time for a party

[rough sapphire]

no liquid fire though okay? @eternal wing

[eternal wing]

that is the only way to party of course not

[rough sapphire]

no. its not

im too lazy to google

the only way to party is to watch my magic trick

i can disappear

[eternal wing]

if that were true, I would be impressed

[rough sapphire]

i can do it again

[eternal wing]

I dare you

[rough sapphire]

here i am

now im gone poof smoke stuff thing to magically disappear

ok im back

[eternal wing]

oof, limited magics

[rough sapphire]

hmm

i think i can do longer than a minute

wait

i disappear

ok im going to come back

that was a solid five minutes

[scenic blaze]

I give up. Hopefully when my work laptop is set up the changes there come from my new account. Changes from my old laptop are just going to keep being from my personal github I guess

I've logged out of everything on this computer connected to my personal github and it's still doing it

[undone berry]

You just need to change your git config to use your work email right?

That should be it

[scenic blaze]

That's what I thought

[undone berry]

Huh. Weird then

[scenic blaze]

It doesn't really matter I suppose, it's just bothering me

We even removed access for my personal github but it's still somehow able to push anyway >.>

[honest star]

reinstall git?

[scenic blaze]

I could try that, I suppose

[mellow cobalt]

I give up. Hopefully when my work laptop is set up the changes there come from my new account. Changes from my old laptop are just going to keep being from my personal github I guess
@scenic blaze I am having the same issue

[scenic blaze]

Glad it's not just me

[mellow cobalt]

I am not even logged into my personal github, and somehow I can still push to it...

[scenic blaze]

What's your IDE? Is it also PyCharm?

[mellow cobalt]

It just says "Du and DuAtHome committed"

Its Android Studio

[scenic blaze]

Oh

Then idk

[mellow cobalt]

and in the GitHub desktop app it does the same thing

[scenic blaze]

It's voodoo

I don't think I can justify spending any more time on this, lol. I'll just accept it and tell my boss idk

[mellow cobalt]

Every time I kill the file explorer using Task Manager, my whole screen goes black and whatever app is running is the only thing I can use, like right now

it just does this. I get a little white box in the corner, then whatever app ia open stays on screen

[jagged fog]

well I believe that's what usually happens when you kil explorer

[mellow cobalt]

on my other PCs it doesn do that

It just kills the explorer window thats open

[manic bloom]

sorry if it's a stupid question but, WHY WOULD YOU KILL FILE EXPLORER?

[rough sapphire]

why not

[manic bloom]

why?

[rough sapphire]

why, why not

[manic bloom]

why (why not) not?

[mellow cobalt]

sorry if it's a stupid question but, WHY WOULD YOU KILL FILE EXPLORER?
@manic bloom It was stuck on my screen and wouldn't go away. I usually kill it and it fixes the problem

[jagged fog]

hm what win

[manic bloom]

oh ok

[mellow cobalt]

Win10 x64 Home Edition

[jagged fog]

I have this stupid thing on win10 where i have to click explorer 2-3 times for it to open. And no waiting won't open it if I click just once

so ig win10 has some.. weird things

[eternal wing]

lol, I am trying graphql with django_graphene and it is just atrocious so far xD I cannot find a good way to structure this so it is manageable and scalable.

[mild abyss]

I have this stupid thing on win10 where i have to click explorer 2-3 times for it to open. And no waiting won't open it if I click just once
@jagged fog thats kinda weird.

[jagged fog]

ye, might be some virus dunno as I don't have antivirus. I hope it's just win being silly

[eternal wing]

update, I nuked the whole project, going with ariadne to follow my senpai

[cursive abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-green-notice-me-gif-10165825

[rough sapphire]

Do you think its possible that you have the double click option set?

Classically, windows had two options for interacting with files in the GUI.

You could single click to execute or you could double click to execute, with a single click being a select

I have not used windows as a a daily driver in a while

@jagged fog

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-10-changing-from-single-click-back-to/4e1a2668-76bf-4f70-a3ca-cfb8a64ce264

[prime aspen]

@coral void Can you purge the unrelated chatting in #help-corn? Thanks

[topaz aurora]

Currently trying to decide which low-level language I should use that has good LLVM bindings

I'm thinking C or Rust but then there's always C++

[prime aspen]

ASM

[topaz aurora]

The LLVM C API seems like hell

[jagged fog]

@rough sapphire no this is unique to explorer only

[rough sapphire]

hrmm. Weird.

Also, I cant give any low level opinions worth listening to, but I like the look of Rust better than any other related lang ive seen.

[solid pollen]

The LLVM C API seems like hell
@topaz aurora there’s no C API that doesn’t look like hell tbh haha

[prisma geyser]

Can I get a bit Kotlin related help?

I need t check if squares of elements of a are present in b

fun comp(a: IntArray?, b: IntArray?): Boolean {
  //your code here
    var toReturn=true
    for(n in a!!){
        if(n*n !in b!!){
            toReturn=false
            break
        }
    }
    if(toReturn==true){
        return true
    }else{
        return false
    }
}```

But this always returns true dunno why?🤷‍♂️

[shell vapor]

I don't know kotlin... but that return doe

    if(toReturn==true){
        return true
    }else{
        return false
    }

can't you just return toReturn ? 🙃

[solid pollen]

Yup you can

[shell vapor]

Also, why even use a variable for that?

[solid pollen]

Instead of using an intermidate value you can also directly return inside your loop

[shell vapor]

# Python pseudo-code
for f in foo:
    if not f:
        return False
return True

[prisma geyser]

I tried

But still the same issue

[twilit hull]

n*n !in b! always false maybe?

[solid pollen]

It shouldn’t though

Also, why make all the arguments nullable but use a null assertion afterward?

It just makes your code less safe for nothing

[shell vapor]

After looking at the learn x in y minutes where x = kotlin page, I have decided I don't care to spend another minute on kotlin.

Good luck.

[solid pollen]

Lol

[shell vapor]

Let's take java, and make it look closer to brainfuck
Kotlin designers, probably.

[solid pollen]

No?

Just...no?

[shell vapor]

xD

Fair enough. does look fugly tho

[solid pollen]

It is java with less words and dots

[topaz aurora]

@topaz aurora there’s no C API that doesn’t look like hell tbh haha
@solid pollen Yeah nah I'm not writing in C, I'd definitely miss relatively painless polymorphism

[gentle sierra]

@small fossil python js i think lol

[small fossil]

Yeah no

Don't @ me for that bs

[gentle sierra]

ok

[prisma geyser]

Lol

[shell vapor]

Ufff. Good job, shitty-ass discord UI.

Right-click on a user's name, click Add Note, type in Racist %%%%, press enter, and realize that it sets the default field to DM instead of notes xD

[undone berry]

Haha. Every time I add a note I'm worried about that

Glad I've never done it though

[quick ledge]

why woul d you type in racist shit?

[shell vapor]

Because a user has a display picture that is racist...

[quick ledge]

oh

the user is racist

sorry, I have poopoo in my brain

[shell vapor]

Yup. Added a note before I blocked them to remember why they are blocked.

[undone berry]

The only notes i ever add are just the word moron

[shell vapor]

Oh, that's why you DMed me the word moron

xD

(that was joke)

[undone berry]

The amount of notes a person has from different people must highly correlate to racism, sexism, and other assorted isms and phobias

[sand goblet]

I have notes for people that change their names a lot

that's about it

I don't block many people

aside from the bots I have blocked, I only share servers with 2 people I've blocked lol

[shell vapor]

I block {-ists,-phobes,spammers,annoying bots,annoying trolls}

[undone berry]

If I ever block someone, I can't not look at their messages

[shell vapor]

Thankfully my block lists are also quite small.

If I ever block someone, I can't not look at their messages
I might look, but I at least know not to reply lol

Even if they ask for help with something I can help with....

My energy is better spent on positive people.

[sand goblet]

I'm pretty sure not being able to entirely ignore blocked people is why people want to add CSS to their clients

it's like the thing I see everyone complain about

[shell vapor]

I don't care about the blocked messages blocks.

Not all people have ill intent, and sometimes they apologize if you call them out for stuff.

[sand goblet]

yeah, but that simplifies the issue a lot

some people have ptsd or other disorders to deal with

[shell vapor]

Yeah, for sure.

[sand goblet]

real blocking can be important for those people

[shell vapor]

True

[sand goblet]

discord constantly falls down on accessibility

it's annoying

[solid pollen]

I don't think I've ever used notes

Maybe once, to remind myself that they preferred the pronoun they/them

Actually, no I didn't

[tranquil orchid]

I think the only note i have is on myself

yeah lol

[stark prawn]

I've got some notes on people who like to change nicks all the time

[tranquil orchid]

i think i may have a few of those as well somewhere

also

getting close

[solid pollen]

+2 :>

Growing fast

[tranquil orchid]

speed

[shell vapor]

Haha, what a noob, I don't even know how to get the member count

[stark prawn]

Time to prune

[solid pollen]

I wonder if the 100k announcement is already ready

I'm guessing it will come with more stuff too

[tranquil orchid]

New emojis surely

[solid pollen]

@bleak lintel i wonder something, would you say that setting up something like salt (assuming it works first try) or setting up k8s is the easiest and the most futureproof way for an hobby project?

[bleak lintel]

k8s is easiest imo

if you get a managed k8s cluster it just works of of the box

give it a docker image and it's running

you will get updates to kubernetes automatically with zero downtime

[rough sapphire]

I know k8s

I used to have some k9s too

[solid pollen]

Really? It sounds cool

[bleak lintel]

A lot of providers allow you to integrate with their services

so like

scaleway provide block storage out of the box

and uhhh

load balancing and IPs

through the regular k8s methods

[rough sapphire]

joe which university do you want to attend

[bleak lintel]

the kubernetes dashboard is nice as well for beginners, but you'll soon transition to the CLI

Glasgow is my current top choice

[solid pollen]

GUIs are for cowards

[rough sapphire]

how come.. is it ranked high.. or a program you like?

[bleak lintel]

program I like

[dusky orchid]

k8s has a slightly higher learning curve due to it being built on top of concepts like docker, so if you don't know k8s, it technically isn't "easiest" but once you have that established knowledge, it's rediculous how convenient as a tool it can be.

[bleak lintel]

yep, exactly

Tron: At Glasgow there is a year long period I spend at UC Berkeley

[dusky orchid]

saltstack is something you're always fighting with to figure out why some behaviour is happening too. k8s is way better documented

[solid pollen]

It is an alternative to docker-compose, isn't it ?

[rough sapphire]

hmm.. california.. tough..

living environment wise

[dusky orchid]

does compose allow for multi-system orchestration?

[rough sapphire]

but I know a lot of great programmers who went to UCB

[dusky orchid]

if it does, i honestly haven't seen it used like that much

[solid pollen]

Nope

But you can't feed a compose file to k8s, can you ?

[dusky orchid]

then k8s is on it's own higher scale.

[bleak lintel]

More powerful than compose

[shell vapor]

I need to get in on k8s

[dusky orchid]

you can deal with multi-container projects, similar to compose, but also multi-project organisation, and multi-system organisation

routing, cdns

[shell vapor]

Compose doesn't do much in terms of scaling.

[dusky orchid]

it can do horizontal

lol

[shell vapor]

Not sure whether Docker-swarm is still a thing.

[dusky orchid]

swarm is still around, yeah

it doesn't have a lot of the toolsets k8s has either

[shell vapor]

Never had a need for more than one server.

[dusky orchid]

k8s also lets you mix and match container tech

not that i've ever needed to though

[shell vapor]

there is other container tech? xD

(I know there is, just never used anything)

Other than docker

[dusky orchid]

than docker? there's definitely some that are better suited than docker

for certain applications

security-wise for example, docker isn't the greatest

[shell vapor]

Yeah. Was being facetious.

[bleak lintel]

I've tried Salt, Ansible and now I'm on k8s, this has been the best workflow so far

[dusky orchid]

never made ansible ... what do they call them? playbooks or something iunno

[bleak lintel]

Auto-deployment is super clean as well, much easier than salt and Ansible

yeah playbooks

it's almost identical to Ansible except obviously no agent and all over SSH

which has benefits

[shell vapor]

I use docker-compose and gitlab-ci. Very nice for a single host.

[dusky orchid]

i've used it once though and it did what the tin said, but i had to run it like 5 times

also it took 40 minutes

[shell vapor]

Been meaning to learn k8s.... but... ain't nobody got time for that.

[dusky orchid]

k8s takes less time to learn than salt i think? at least on the level of getting something working and playing with

[shell vapor]

I did mess around with vagrant years ago. Don't remember trying ansible...

[dusky orchid]

also there's a ton of better tutorials and other resources for k8s than salt

[bleak lintel]

salt docs are very meh

[dusky orchid]

i don't think i've ever seen a good tutorial on salt

[solid pollen]

Ansible looks like hell

[bleak lintel]

I wrote some stuff for Ansible to fix the machinectl issues

that was interesting

[dusky orchid]

ansible is limited but convenient for quick dodgy work

[bleak lintel]

yep

[dusky orchid]

at least going by what i've seen

i need to actually try playing with k8s though on my prod servers someday

one day

[shell vapor]

same, same.

I should go do some actual work now though.

Damn distracting discord.

[solid pollen]

Maybe one day I'll rent a web server ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Damn distracting discord.
@shell vapor you're welcomen

[dusky orchid]

thankfully they're relatively cheap these days unless you need something intense

[shell vapor]

Just be sure to go with a reputable provider

[solid pollen]

I'd like to go with linode, they look like a nice company

But since I actually have zero income per month, that's a no for now

[shell vapor]

Linode is fine.

I had a 4 GB KVM VPS with some shady company I found on low end box or something...

$43 for a year

They pulled an exit scam after 11 months xD

[simple sand]

Damn distracting discord.
@shell vapor So True

[shell vapor]

Wiped all my data.

[solid pollen]

That's a big F

backups when

[shell vapor]

Nothing too important on there ¯_(ツ)_/¯

The code was all built by gitlab-ci.

e-mails are dumb anyways

4 GB for $4/month was still pretty good, TBH

[solid pollen]

I'm waiting for the stats lord to come back to ask him the ETA to 100k

[dusky orchid]

it'll be a "it depends™️"

[solid pollen]

That's why I'm asking for an ETA

[dusky orchid]

yeah it's currently on a course for a wide variation

i think there's a few actions that are to be made that may delay the 100k being hit by not just a few days, but possibly months

so best thing to do is just wait and see lol

[solid pollen]

What why?

Are you going to do a prune?

[dusky orchid]

we don't know yet, maybe

[shell vapor]

prune all the code jam losers

[solid pollen]

Goodbye @shell vapor

[shell vapor]

F

[solid pollen]

We'll miss you

[narrow pecan]

prune all the code jam losers
@shell vapor

[rancid forge]

if you didn't finish do you still get pruned

[narrow pecan]

why are we writing like this

[honest star]

bwahahaha, shitty school systems will be the saving grace of my house hunting search

[gentle moss]

@sand jacinth, nice recommendation on that Dan Carlin podcast

thanks for that.

been listening while cooking

[honest star]

which Dan Carlin podcast?

[gentle moss]

Common Sense

it seems discontinued now, but i'm enjoying it

[honest star]

I should check it out. I follow his hardcore history practically religously

[gentle moss]

is that one good?

i might check it out next

[honest star]

It's SO good.

Very well done, longform, well researched and a treat to listen to

[gentle moss]

nice

oh btw you wanna see the gf's tomato plants? :D

[honest star]

yes!

Let's witness the horror

[gentle moss]

and oh what a horror

[honest star]

. . . oH

That's uh...

[gentle moss]

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

with a capital

baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[honest star]

I feel a might urge to go and try to fix i

t

[gentle moss]

she's cut off too much. she trimmed it too far back.

they're dead.

[honest star]

Like... just trim some of those leaves, bit more mulch, some fertilizer/nutrients, more water

AH! I see the cut of ends

Oh nooooooooo

[gentle moss]

yes.

[honest star]

you don't cut the main stem ;_;

[gentle moss]

she was like "oh it's over grown. i'll just snippy snip"

[honest star]

noooooooooooooooooooooo

Alright how to build a time machine and stop that from happening

[gentle moss]

i advised her not to.

[shell vapor]

F

[gentle moss]

but not strongly.

not going to tell her how to not kill her plants

[honest star]

well... you have that one red one?

[gentle moss]

we got two that "ripened"

we ate them. they were awful

[honest star]

ooh, I see a couple that are split in that picture and should be harvested just to help the plant

[gentle moss]

fuck the plant.

she should try harder next time ¬_¬

[young shoal]

yikes

[honest star]

LMAO, not wrong though

Honestly, I find my plants do better if I neglect them a bit

(except for harvesting, that's an every other day thing now)

[gentle moss]

when i grew 4 tomato plants at my mums i managed to harvest like ~10 tomatoes off them

the rest was pretty much waste

i didn't do a great job

[honest star]

awww

[gentle moss]

but i read up on why

hopefully she'll do the same now

:D

[honest star]

that's one way to learn "oh crap.... I killed many things... how do I not do that?"

[gentle moss]

it made me realise they're pretty delicate plants

"oh sure how hard could it be to grow veg?"

grows veg

"oh shit."

[honest star]

They really are so fussy

My squash is fairly resilient though, I think that's a good starter plant

So far the only fussier plant I've dealt with is a grape vine

God I have to baby that plant

[gentle moss]

oooh, on that front my sister grows pumpkins

i think they're called "atlantic" pumpkins

[honest star]

wait the giant ones?

[gentle moss]

this was about 4 weeks ago

last year she had one so large she could've hollowed it out and curled up in it

fucking mental

[honest star]

Oooooh nice

Those are super cool!

Taste awful though

[gentle moss]

yeah, she uses them for halloween. does big displays

[rough sapphire]

looks like a raddish

[honest star]

Ooooh, that's a great idea though

[gentle moss]

fuckin giant pumpkin

[honest star]

oh wow, that's impressive

[gentle moss]

carved

[stark prawn]

You could fill it with the doggo

[honest star]

=O I love intricate carving designs

[gentle moss]

oh she's great at pumpkin carving

[rough sapphire]

wow that's as big as a dog

[gentle moss]

can't find another without me but that's a bunch of her carvings

[honest star]

oh wow, those are incredible. I am super jelly

I need to work on my pumpkin carving skills

Let me find "my masterpiece" one

[rough sapphire]

do you eat the pumpkins afterwards

[gentle moss]

apparently the trick is to carve them before scooping them

[rough sapphire]

you know you could make pumpkin fries with those

[honest star]

oh wait, really?

[gentle moss]

then thin out the back to create fades

if that makes sense

[honest star]

This is the best I've ever done

[gentle moss]

niiiiiiiiiiiice

[undone berry]

Is that the dragon from How To Train Your Dragon?

[honest star]

It is!

[gentle moss]

i saw that too

yeah, so my sister's carvings are very much like

sharpie onto the outside then carve it with scalpel trying not to go into the "innards"

then you can create fades and stuff by opening it up and scraping the back

rather than full depth carving

[honest star]

huh, I'll have to give it a shot this year

[gentle moss]

i mean i thought she was doing it like normal carving for ages, then she explained it to me and i was like

"well of course it's that"

i've asked her to do a carving dump to imgur, i'll hit you up if she does. 👌

[honest star]

yesss pls do

[lofty dirge]

I hate people who IM hello at work then wait for response. You want something just freaking say it.

[gentle moss]

hello rabbit

[lofty dirge]

chokes out bisk

[gentle moss]

ack... i just wanted to ask ... ack .... why an exchange server would randomly start .... hhhrrrnnggggg .... dropping mail for some users

dies

[stark prawn]

ack? The bisk confirmed all packets arrived correctly.

[gentle moss]

hah

[lofty dirge]

Because you didn’t convert to Office365

[rough sapphire]

there was a southpark character named chokes on ____

[lofty dirge]

Plus our network at work is broken

[gentle moss]

to be honest we do have an issue with some mail delivery

[lofty dirge]

For you, I’ll consider helping

[stark prawn]

It can't be as bad as the USPS

[gentle moss]

but it's an issue with the firewall between the exchange server and the relay

so we're in a back and forth with the isp

they have router control

[lofty dirge]

Open Port 25

Done

[gentle moss]

we assume some mail servers haven't been added to allow smtp traffic

they wont do a broad port 25 open

has to be ip blocks or specific ips

ball ache

[lofty dirge]

Is it inbound or outbound?

[gentle moss]

inbound

[lofty dirge]

How many mail servers do you have?

[gentle moss]

1. but, you're going to fucking revel in this, there's a gmail relay to the exchange server

[lofty dirge]

🤮

[gentle moss]

:D

predictable response

to be honest we've been trying to get them to o365

because it better matches what they're doing

[lofty dirge]

Oh customer?

[gentle moss]

but ehhhhhhhh

price.

yeah.

[lofty dirge]

Just call Microsoft and say they are violating licensing

[gentle moss]

we manage the exchange server, the gmail spam filter relay and resold the internet connection to them

[lofty dirge]

Audits always clear that up

[gentle moss]

so we're in the fucking dog house atm

hah

i know they'd fail an audit

wouldn't most places?

[lofty dirge]

Microsoft tends to let audit go if you promise to use Office365 to bring into compliance

[gentle moss]

hopefully they'll move to o365 tbh

moving on, just made a chilli and i'm very tempted to roast a whole chicken too. 🤔

can't stop cooking

[rough sapphire]

bisk can't be stopped

Gone mad with power

[gentle moss]

cook all the things

need to find other stuff to do else i just end up cooking

[solid pollen]

Bisk: the mad cook

[gentle moss]

mad with cooking

[lofty dirge]

Time to walk the dog

[gentle moss]

i hope you pick up the poops

[soft violet]

If you pick up the dog, by extension, you shall.

[gentle moss]

not if the dog poops because you picked it up

[soft violet]

If the pooping follows the picking up of the dog, then the poop will have already been picked up.

[gentle moss]

yeah but it'll also be dropped

by that logic

[soft violet]

Yes.

[gentle moss]

you don't just go out with a bag of poop

and drop it in the street

well, i can't speak for you

but most people.

[soft violet]

I walked through my school at the time with a big, clear bag of pig organs. A bag of poop would not be outside the scope of my capabilities.

[gentle moss]

did you drop the pig organs on the floor?

[soft violet]

I blew into them.

[gentle moss]

nice pair of lungs you got there

[soft violet]

Highest vo2 max in my class.

[gentle moss]

:D

how did the pig's fare?

[soft violet]

They couldn't keep it together.

[gentle moss]

oh i guess they blew up

[soft violet]

I left the property for the second time this year. Third if you count a rather adventurous outing a few steps out the driveway some time previous.

I wore swimming goggles.

[gentle moss]

oh so you're an insider too?

[soft violet]

I live on half an acre, but yes. Within that.

[gentle moss]

yeah i haven't really left the house to do anything but go to shops and do some physical work for my job

pretty scary going outside

more now than usual

[soft violet]

I wouldn't have gone out at all, given a free choice.

[gentle moss]

is it covid related?

[soft violet]

The rebate on the immune suppressant medication I stab myself with comes with the requirement I have blood monitoring.

So the now two times I've been out have been for that.

[gentle moss]

ahhh, pretty bad place to be

[soft violet]

Yes.

I'm a little resentful.

[gentle moss]

understandable

my chilli's almost done, wanna hop on voice and have a chat after?

[soft violet]

A plan it is.

[gentle moss]

👌

just waiting for the liquid to reduce

usually i like my chilli a bit wet, but the gf wants to be able to put it in a wrap

so i'm doing it a bit dry this time

[honest star]

slightly dry chili >>>> wet chili imo

[gentle moss]

nah, i love a saucy chilli

some liquid to mop up after all the contents are gone

[soft violet]

I have a thing for mops.

They are an enjoyable object.

[gentle moss]

that's where it's at atm, need a little bit more reduction

this is probably where i'd leave it

bread is a food mop

[mild abyss]

wow it looks tasty

👀

[gentle moss]

it is.

been at this for about ~3 hours now

[mild abyss]

cool. that will really taste good then

[gentle moss]

i take pride in my chilli con carnes

:D

got a rough recipe for it if you'd like it

[rancid forge]

bisk is back with tasty-looking food

[gentle moss]

i'm cooking like a mad man atm

[cursive abyss]

that moment when you can smell a photo.

[rancid forge]

#ot1-cookin-with-bisk

[gentle moss]

it's done.

the wet is less wet

[rancid forge]

👉 👈 is for me?

[soft violet]

There have been attempts to produce remote smelling technology.

[cursive abyss]

lol any successful attempts?

[gentle moss]

no.

[rancid forge]

too bad

bisk's food would smell really good right about now

[gentle moss]

it smells like smoked paprika and cumin and beef and tomato

and other stuff

[cursive abyss]

hnnnnng

and it's lunchtime. perfect. u da bes.

[soft violet]

Paprika is great.

[gentle moss]

it smells like this looks

another recipe drop

https://tenor.com/view/boom-anna-kendrick-pitch-perfect-pitch-perfect2-mic-drop-gif-5143507

[soft violet]

Paprika smells like recipe book paper?

[gentle moss]

it does now

as in the recipe book is covered in cooking stuff

[cursive abyss]

i'm going to need a typed version of this, please <.<

[gentle moss]

greasy af

no.

[cursive abyss]

....please?

[gentle moss]

my handwriting is bad but not that bad

eh.... maybe.

[cursive abyss]

"onion should be..." lol i can't read it

[rancid forge]

i can sorta read that

[gentle moss]

soft. onion should be soft.

smh.

[cursive abyss]

that does not look like soft.

[gentle moss]

i do f's below the line

like an s that goes below the line with a strike through

it's what i was taught in school

get off my back

[soft violet]

I might go sleep now.

[cursive abyss]

it looks like a 7! lol

[gentle moss]

oh, i was about to hop on opal

[rancid forge]

oh yeah, opal is australian

[cursive abyss]

oo. yeah. that's past my bedtime.

[rancid forge]

hey bisk if you want i can hop on. it's not exactly the same but it's okayish

nvm i should be doing school stuffs

[alpine pelican]

System.out.print( "bc" + 2 + 3) what does it print?

[young shoal]

what do you think

[gentle moss]

nn @soft violet

[young shoal]

@alpine pelican ? you here or...

[little wolf]

what do you think
@young shoal its java syntax lol

[young shoal]

yes?

[rough sapphire]

remote smelling technology
Now the first thing that comes into my mind is "what will be the scent equivalent of the rickroll"

[alpine pelican]

I'm here

I have to wait to do the homework over

[plucky ridge]

What are we smelling?

[oak tangle]

@alpine pelican That question you were repeating over and over again in all of our off-topic channels, was that a homework question you desperately needed answered?

[alpine pelican]

Yes

@oak tangle

[scenic blaze]

What are we smelling?
@plucky ridge Least fun party game, ever

[plucky ridge]

By Hasbro

[scenic blaze]

I have so many meetings today

Want to stand in for me, Hem?

[plucky ridge]

Only if you want them to deal with your mom jokes the entire time

[scenic blaze]

"What's the status on project X?" "The same as your MOM's status"

[plucky ridge]

"Your mom has a project X"

[scenic blaze]

"In her pants!"

[plucky ridge]

"Alright so we just need to push this through git and we'll-" "I git ur mom every night"

[rough sapphire]

hmmm

[plucky ridge]

Never said they were going to be top notch

[scenic blaze]

spoon->fork->clone->git-commit

spooning leads to commitment

QED

[narrow pecan]

I think Discord's being quite slow at updating the member stats

Do they have some time interval at which they update it?

[plucky ridge]

No idea. What're you looking to know? Or rather, how are you checking them?

[narrow pecan]

Both on mobile and using !server, I'm checking the member count

[plucky ridge]

Ah, I gotcha

@bleak lintel would be able to tell you more about that

He's the stats guy

[narrow pecan]

True

Maybe @wide verge has some secret and advanced count function for member count as well

[bleak lintel]

hmmmmm

where do you think it's lagging

the !server output will be 100% accurate, invites are cached

[narrow pecan]

Check #bot-commands. The member count has remained exactly the same for 4 minutes. Seems odd

And earlier today, it also kept the same count for quite some time

[bleak lintel]

that's because it was the same

[narrow pecan]

I'd imagine that things aren't that stable and that the member count oscillates a bit more

Do you really think so?

[bleak lintel]

yep

[narrow pecan]

That would mean 6 minutes when none of our 100,000 members left and no one joined

[bleak lintel]

yeah

!server

[royal lake]

Server information
Created: 3 years, 8 months and 1 day ago
Voice region: europe
Features: PARTNERED, WELCOME_SCREEN_ENABLED, VIP_REGIONS, DISCOVERABLE, ANIMATED_ICON, INVITE_SPLASH, VANITY_URL, NEWS, RELAY_ENABLED, BANNER, COMMUNITY

Channel counts
Category channels: 28
News channels: 7
Text channels: 180
Voice channels: 62
Staff channels: 47

Member counts
Members: 99,286
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[bleak lintel]

the bot in general is pretty live

sometimes the stats systems lag behind a bit but

[narrow pecan]

Alright. That wasn't what I had expected

When are we expecting to hit 100k? Tomorrow? In a few days?

[bleak lintel]

12th

but

that's providing we don't keep it below

we're rolling out a new verification process which will remove a lot of users

[narrow pecan]

Yeah, I've heard about that. Shouldn't that wait until we've hit 100k though? Just to have reached that milestone, you know

[bleak lintel]

eh

doubtful

hey guys! 100k!

hey guys! 100k again!

[narrow pecan]

Hahahh

[bleak lintel]

like, we will hit 100k after this system rolls out

[quick ledge]

yeah, Joe's right

[narrow pecan]

Yeah. Still, why not just wait 3 days?

[bleak lintel]

because hitting 100k twice is stupid

and we'd like to do something special for 100k and more prep time would be nice

[narrow pecan]

Alright; I'll buy that last part

Do you have any idea when the "second 100k" would be, after the purge?

[bleak lintel]

no idea

we gain liiiike

~300 users a day?

[narrow pecan]

2 months, I'd guess. Or more

[honest star]

grrrr I can't tell if that's using the updated beard

[mild abyss]

☕

[narrow pecan]

Doesn't look like it to me

[rough sapphire]

joe

[scenic blaze]

That beard looks like it's leaning to the left

What do you do when you have 3 bosses, 1 boss who wants you to do an impossible thing, another who believes it's impossible, and another who's completely clueless

[rough sapphire]

@scenic blaze become your own boss

[scenic blaze]

Tried that, it doesn't pay well 😦

[bright solar]

nah

becoming your own boss causes you to turn your clients into bosses

if you have 10 clients; you have 10 bosses

[narrow pecan]

@scenic blaze You tell them that they're asking for the impossible

[bright solar]

I felt like that yesterday; my boss wanted me to make 1000 machine learning models in one week for a pitch for a client.

[narrow pecan]

Btw, your name is just sooo long. Fills 2/5 of my screen

[scenic blaze]

hah

[bright solar]

I used fasttext and rocked it

[scenic blaze]

mobile?

[narrow pecan]

Desktop

[scenic blaze]

lol

[shell vapor]

that's providing we don't keep it below
purge all code jam losers

xD

[narrow pecan]

@scenic blaze type this in the chat: /nick UltimateChaos

[scenic blaze]

/nick UltimateChaos

[narrow pecan]

Clever.

You got me there

[young shoal]

what are the classic arguments that someone who doesn't know anything about python will use to argue against using it

[sand goblet]

mandatory indentation and no braces

[cursive abyss]

lol but that means you know something about python

[young shoal]

i got "it's slow" already

[eternal wing]

well, the best one for me is an elaboration on gdude, when switching between languages, I actually find python quite difficult to read compared to languages with brackets and clear type definitions. I have heard this from others as well.

I think the most valid one would be the performance. Since that is actually a big consideration for an app

So I guess I would add implicit type definitions as a negative, but it is also a positive

[hoary steppe]

i liked arguing a lot before but thats just pointless sometimes and may leed to beef

[rough sapphire]

But not pork?

[young shoal]

fish

[cursive abyss]

mmm steak.

[remote socket]

uuuuuuuh

sure

[eternal wing]

im scared

[remote socket]

I have no idea what to expect

I have DMs off

[eternal wing]

im more scared

[remote socket]

is it something that needs to be moderated?

[eternal wing]

@polar knoll ?

[remote socket]

Is it something to do with helping with Python stuff?

I don't understand

Someone's trying to lock an account?

[tranquil orchid]

whats the issue?

[remote socket]

oh did one of the users below the screenshot say they're 11 now?

[tranquil orchid]

wait...

[remote socket]

Yeah, you did.

[rough sapphire]

so did your account get banned

ah disabled

i think you have to send a picture you and your id i think

something like that

what?

[hoary steppe]

...

[remote socket]

sample of your blood?

[rough sapphire]

sample of blood

[hoary steppe]

bro what

[young shoal]

i thought that was so obvious lol

[hoary steppe]

i wouldnt even send a picture of myself online

never

[remote socket]

Alright. I'm not sure why you pinged me.

[hoary steppe]

my face i mean

[remote socket]

It seems that you'll have it under control

if you're 13 or older

[tranquil orchid]

yep

[rough sapphire]

but why trust discord

[tranquil orchid]

Well xithrius can't unlock your account

so I'm not sure what you expect him to do

[young shoal]

what does discord have to gain from doxxing you

[hoary steppe]

i would never sent my photo online

[rough sapphire]

well an empolyee can use that picture