#ot1-perplexing-regexing

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plucky ridge
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I'm just happy to be acknowledged

rough sapphire
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yeah ill just do both

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👍

young shoal
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what is david biaine doing

solid pollen
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Do you call an Argentinian with a vampire?, Frostbite.
To get from 1st thing about the kid celerator in a fish? You rocket.
A termite fruit?, They were cookie cry?, Because teeth like blue paint?, R2 detour.```I ran a markov chain generator on a joke database, here are 3 jokes that I got after a little cleaning (👀 @plucky ridge)
plucky ridge
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First one is gold. Second one is kind of iffy. Third is confusing. It's like someone is slowly having a stroke

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Well okay, gold if it got tweaked

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@young shoal I genuinely forget he's a thing

solid pollen
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I wonder if having something like that on @median dome would be any valuable lol

young shoal
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he's going to space or something

quick ledge
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as a tourist?

young shoal
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with balloons

quick ledge
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sounds like a Pixar movie

plucky ridge
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@solid pollen Well stuff on SB doesn't have to be valuable. It can just be fun

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Would be interesting if we could train it up

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I would love to see what a program molded to my sense of humor would create

solid pollen
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Mhh, like rank the jokes?

plucky ridge
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Yeah

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So it tries to aim for more accurate ones?

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Or is that possible

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I think there's a site that does that... hmm

solid pollen
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We could resample the output if it was considered good

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But I'm sure how well it would work

plucky ridge
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Fair point

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Yeah I guess it wouldn't really work without a proper machine learning type thingy

solid pollen
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I could take a look at some simple machine learning algorithm

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That'd be a nice but stupid introduction haha

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Hmm, a decision tree would be good here, I think

plucky ridge
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I just like the idea of being able to actively continue tuning it.

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Like giving it a thumbs up for a good joke, thumbs down for a bad one. Maybe another one for neutral?

solid pollen
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You could tune the decision tree

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(I think)

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Actually the decision tree would be the same as a Markov chain

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I need to do more research

plucky ridge
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Only if you're genuinely wanting to do it

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I don't want you to spend time on it for my sake

rough sapphire
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you mean my usrname?
@ancient minnow no lmao. i meant the channel’s name.

solid pollen
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Oh yeah, that's totally stupid, I'm down for it

topaz aurora
young shoal
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oh pog

topaz aurora
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I gotta start writing updated tests though lol

solid pollen
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or the failing test graph will look the exact same

tulip patrol
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how I can be pro programmer?

solid pollen
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Learn, practice, repeat

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There's no secret technique tbh

undone berry
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well - "professional" just means that you do it for a profession, so you go do a degree/self-teach then get hired by XYZ company

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in some countries, you might need to be a member of an accredited body such as the BCS

tulip patrol
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but I try but I can't making project?

quick ledge
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start simple

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dirt simple

tulip patrol
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I try making path finding algorithm visualizer but I can't

quick ledge
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are you stuck somewhere?

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you can get it cleared in the help channels of this server

tulip patrol
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I make the whole thing but it don't work, I scrapped the project 2 weeks ago

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@quick ledge you make one before?

quick ledge
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nope

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would like to though, one day

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there are poeple here who have made though

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manny people

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saw 2 yesterday

tulip patrol
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damn, I might go back to the project then I'll see

honest star
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mmmmm I think I'm in the mood for a new work laptop... Do y'all have any recommendations for a HP or Dell laptop that doesn't weight 50000lbs?

young shoal
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do those exist

undone berry
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XPS 15 has very good reviews

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and is apparently pretty easily linuxable if you want that

honest star
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Needs to be windows due to org policies

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A weird requirement I have: must have built in cd/dvd reader

undone berry
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oh - i doubt the xps has that

honest star
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I have a beastly XPS that does but it's also fairly old

gentle moss
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a laptop? with a built in rom drive?

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oof

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that's going to restrict your options

honest star
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It's a weird requirement, I know.

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I can maybe get away with not having it? But it makes data transfer complicated for me at work.

gentle moss
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USB3 ROM drive?

undone berry
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could you not just grab a USB one to keep at work?

honest star
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I guess I could on this machine. I couldn't on my admin one but I only use for that email at this point.

undone berry
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Surfacebook or XPS15 look like the nicest for their prices - Razer Blade looks great if price isn't a concern

gentle moss
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i keep one at home in case the world has ended and i'll want to raid a games store to have some more things to play

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i can say i'm a fan of the surfacebook

honest star
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Has to be HP or Dell for reasons

lofty dirge
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kutiekatj9, do you need dGPU?

undone berry
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If it has to be Dell/HP - then the XPS 15 looks pretty great

honest star
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mmmmmm... it would be nice to have, but any of my heavier graphics card processing I'll typically do on the networked or HPC we have

lofty dirge
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so you do, or do not need one?

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because second you want dGPU, it's going to add the bulk a bit

honest star
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I don't need one

lofty dirge
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and yea, Surface book if you need dGPU/Surface Laptop if you don't

undone berry
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You get thin and lights with dedicated GPUs

lofty dirge
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not as much as without

undone berry
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You get models of the XPS with/without dedicated gpus

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and their weight is pretty much the same

lofty dirge
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does XPS only do TB docks? In fact, is there anyone who doesn't do TB/USB dock?

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Microsoft is only one I'm aware of

honest star
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Yurp. My current laptop is 6 lbs, but is also super duper thick, which is my main gripe.

undone berry
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They do support eGPUs, but they can also have dedicated GPUs

lofty dirge
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at work, we are having bad case with stupid USB HP docks

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makes me like having Thinkpad with old style

narrow pecan
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Yurp. My current laptop is 6 lbs, but is also super duper thick, which is my main gripe.
@honest star maybe it's time to get a MacBook instead;)

undone berry
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At some point I'm probably gonna get a XPS15

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There's better thin and lights out there than macbooks

narrow pecan
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Evening, Mr

undone berry
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and to you Mr

lofty dirge
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they need a computer, not a fisher price computer with chrome covering 😛

honest star
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Again, for work I am restricted to Dell or HP cause reasons.

undone berry
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Macs are pretty alright for dev stuff

narrow pecan
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That's a too long discussion. For me personally, Mac is the OS

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Yeah

lofty dirge
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probably restricted to Windows as well

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Vestergurkan, it will be interesting to see what happens with ARM transition

narrow pecan
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For sure

undone berry
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Mr. Vestegurkan* (/s)

lofty dirge
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moving on

honest star
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I don't actually know if we have the resources in place to purchase a computer from microsoft? I'll have to follow up with the purchasing folks

lofty dirge
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If we are doing that

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Please address me properly

undone berry
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My apologies Sky Marshal Rabbit

lofty dirge
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kutiekatj, it's probably because support people don't want to deal with Surface support

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or they have a great discount with HP/Dell

narrow pecan
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This is an objective truth:

If one is to perform the noble art of development, they shall not use the operating system that disguises its true nature and goes by the name of "Windows"

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Aka, just use some UNIX OS and I'll be happy

undone berry
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Windows is also fine for dev stuff

narrow pecan
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The people who have chosen darkness even use backslashes in the file structure. There is no way that such a thing can ever be normal. We must seek for the light

graceful basin
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I have never faced a significant issue devving on windows, except emacs not working well, which got solved with WSL.

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you can use /

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\ was chosen because / was already cmd switch

undone berry
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the filepaths have never caused me issues

graceful basin
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I generally do not manipulate paths as text regardless

narrow pecan
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"Thou shalt not use Windows" sounds good though -- even though it may not be entirely accurate ahahah

quick bay
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this is one of the best offtopic names

narrow pecan
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If you wanna know the story @quick bay

quick bay
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thanks

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i was just gonna ask

narrow pecan
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Aahah yeah, that's reasonable

quick bay
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incredible

graceful basin
plucky ridge
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@timber sleet I don't know if you can sense it, but when you said that I squealed like a little girl

sand goblet
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manjaro is also that

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oh, this is terminal centric

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interesting

timber sleet
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@plucky ridge why haha

plucky ridge
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I'm excited to an absurd degree about Cyberpunk

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So just know that if you're not telling the truth, it'll make me sad

graceful basin
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manjaro does more than just install arch, it also has custom repos and such

timber sleet
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Oh, happy to hear! I work for the art team for Cyberpunk

plucky ridge
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Oh very cool. What brought you to the Python server, if I may ask?

timber sleet
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Programming is my side hobby

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Nothing advanced

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Just basic automation

plucky ridge
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Nothing wrong with that, I'm purely a hobbyist as well. I work at an accounting firm as our in-house IT

quick ledge
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Oh, happy to hear! I work for the art team for Cyberpunk
@timber sleet wait what

timber sleet
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Hey that sounds cool, IT jobs(;

quick ledge
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really?

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that's amazing

timber sleet
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@quick ledge I am still fresh there, its my third month:)

plucky ridge
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I mean it's nothing fancy. We're a smaller firm, which I'm happy about. Always wanted to do IT for a smaller company. But my technical title is Administrative Support, so I get to be a Jack of All Trades around the office. It's never boring, at least

timber sleet
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Yeah, worst job is a job that bores you

plucky ridge
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No argument here. So what kind of Python stuff are you doing/ working on currently? Like what tasks are you wanting to automate

timber sleet
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@plucky ridge I recently made a program that calculates my internet speed data and exports it to a google spreadsheet using the Google Docs API

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Based on that data, a graph is generated.

plucky ridge
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Suspect you're getting shafted by your ISP?

timber sleet
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I made this program because my ISP was scamming me with internet speed

plucky ridge
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That can happen.

timber sleet
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I showed them the data and now I have 2 months free internet plus they are coming over to setup a new router for free on Friday

cold current
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Actually? Damn. Maybe I should do the same

plucky ridge
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Yeah that's.... pretty legit

cold current
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I doubt it would work with my ISP but it's worth a try, I suppose

lofty dirge
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I'm shocked they listened

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since my ISP advertises 1Gbps but tiny fine print says "anything over 880Mbps is considered 1Gbps"

narrow pecan
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@timber sleet That's awesome! Too bad you had to go through all that trouble to get the services right

cold current
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That's actually stupid @lofty dirge. I feel like that's misleading advertising, to say the least

lofty dirge
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Sure, it's probably more "Line speed could be 1Gbps but routers can't always hack it"

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NATing costs

timber sleet
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I mean my internet was supposed to be 300mbps and all I got was 8-11mbps so something was clearly wrong

quick ledge
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whoa

cold current
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Ah, yea, that's ridiculous

plucky ridge
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It's usually not a router problem, though

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Typically it's either the server you're connecting to having limited bandwidth or some bottleneck along the way

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If it's consistently crap across all services then it's likely to be a line signal issue

cold current
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Right, unless you have insanely high speeds or a very poor router

plucky ridge
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Sure, but often times it'd be a poor router that THEY provide

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So if it's still crap, it's their fault

rich moon
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ugh the intel sticker on my laptop is starting to peel

plucky ridge
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Gotta throw out the whole laptop

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It's the only reasonable solution

young shoal
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i'm trying to learn colemak, but my vim keybinds

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what do i do?

sand goblet
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Oh man

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Stickers on laptops

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My partner has literally covered the lid of her laptop with stickers

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There isn't a single piece of grey peeking through

rich moon
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but i gotta flex my intel processor ya know

cold current
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Just stick that on the very top.

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Above all the others

rich moon
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gotta show that my intel processor is real ya know

stark prawn
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GenuineIntel:r:

rich moon
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yup

rough sapphire
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Why are there so many "grey" laptops

graceful basin
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grey is a good color

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goes with everything

rich moon
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very mundane

stark prawn
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Don't want too haveone that isn't mundane at a meeting tbh.

rich moon
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whats wrong with power rangers

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go go powerrangers

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aw u deleted ur msg

rough sapphire
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goes with everything
@graceful basin will it go on date with me ?

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no

graceful basin
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technology has gone far

round rose
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maybe too far

royal laurel
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@plucky ridge it u

rough sapphire
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you should name it Hemlog

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ot1-hemlog

royal laurel
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of course said log has buildability

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so i can get myself a hemlock door

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or boat

rough sapphire
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or fuel

round rose
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Hemlog
Bottom text

rough sapphire
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nvm that doesnt work

royal laurel
round rose
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Ooh

rough sapphire
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unsee

royal laurel
rough sapphire
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That would make a nice ot name tbh

round rose
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This just got a whole lot more suggestive

plucky ridge
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@royal laurel That sounds incredibly painful

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No thank you

round rose
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What about hemlog though

plucky ridge
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I mean yeah, it's just the stripped part I'm concerned about

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Which would assume you took the bark off of it, which would be the skin

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So no

round rose
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Depends on your perception of stripped

narrow pecan
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Why is everyone so obsessed with naked hemlock? This is disturbing

round rose
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You could take it very differently in a more bedroom-oriented context

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but that context should stay in the bedroom tbh

rough sapphire
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yeah im just going to go back to coding

narrow pecan
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If it wasn’t inappropriate, naked hemlock/stripped hemlock log should’ve been an ot name

stuck meteor
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Any person that knows how PyQt5 stylesheets work here?

rich moon
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well this is enough internet for me today

stuck meteor
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I'm tryna figure out smth since yday but seems no one knows

round rose
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I played around with them a fair bit back in the day

stuck meteor
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    def createTab(self):
        i = self.tabsCount
        self.tabs.append(QWidget())
        self.tabs[i].layout = QVBoxLayout()
        self.tabs[i].setObjectName("Tab " + str(i))
        self.tabs[i].setStyleSheet("border-radius: 20px;")
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the border is just not changing lmao

round rose
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That's odd

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Oh

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QWidget doesn't support border-radius, only border-style and border-width

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QFrame does though, might wanna use that one instead @stuck meteor

stuck meteor
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And by the QFrame i can modify the border-radius?

round rose
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QFrame supports the border-radius property, and IIRC it should be close enough to QWidget in terms of functionality

narrow pecan
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Is it Czech Republic or the Czech Republic?
@rough sapphire yes

graceful basin
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The

narrow pecan
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Yes.
Jokes aside, I have no clue

graceful basin
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Gotta have an article

plucky ridge
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I'm losing to the plastic wrapping around a pad of sticky notes

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Not my proudest moment

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Had to actually use the knife on my multi-tool to get it open

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Sheesh

undone berry
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Is your multitool your teeth and your knife your incisors?

plucky ridge
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Does my mouth look weird?

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I don't think I'm very photogenic

undone berry
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That's some impressive dentistry

gentle moss
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how often are you fishing hemlock?

plucky ridge
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Last time I fished was around 11 years ago

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I just use it for little maintenance things

gentle moss
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i always find it weird that so many multitools come with a fish knife

plucky ridge
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Wait which one is the fish knife?

gentle moss
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the little serrated one

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on the right

plucky ridge
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Oh huh

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Thought that was for wood

gentle moss
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nope.

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for sawing through fish

plucky ridge
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Learn something new every day

gentle moss
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17 is a fish knife

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15 is a saw

plucky ridge
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Ah okay

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Yeah I guess the teeth are a little rounded. Never really questioned it

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Mainly got it for the plyers and the knife

undone berry
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I feel like bottle openers are the most ubiquitous and most useless things on those

gentle moss
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multitools should really just be a basic saw, pliers, screwdrivers and a knife

undone berry
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although I guess the target audience is beer drinkers

gentle moss
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i mean, i can open a beer bottle with loads of stuff

undone berry
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so can i

gentle moss
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a spoon, a lighter, a table, etc

undone berry
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you just cant drink it after i'm done

gentle moss
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i am drinking gluten free beer right now

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so.... circumstantial

undone berry
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did you spoon it open?

gentle moss
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nah, clipper lighter.

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spoon is for when someone doesn't have a bottle opener or a lighter and their kitchen sides are too nice to ruin

undone berry
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what kind of lighter? Any disposable kind seems like it would just lose the fight vs the bottle cap

plucky ridge
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Wait, like a Bic lighter?

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One of those disposable jobbers?

gentle moss
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any plastic lighter with a flat bottom

plucky ridge
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Huh

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I'd worry about puncturing it by accident, I guess

gentle moss
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you wedge it in the crook of your thumb and index finger

undone berry
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hmmm - now I want to give it a shot, but I have neither beer nor lighter

gentle moss
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and get it under the bottle cap

undone berry
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and I don't exactly need either

gentle moss
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the teeth of the cap bite into the plastic

plucky ridge
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I used to carry a zippo just because

gentle moss
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then it's just a lever

plucky ridge
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Not... actually sure why I did

gentle moss
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i'd show you but i opened all the beers already.

plucky ridge
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All at once

undone berry
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I like having lighters to play around with, but they inevitably get destroyed or destroy the things around me

plucky ridge
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I think I just had it for those "just in case" situations, but I genuinely don't know what those situations would have been

eternal wing
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zippos are cool, i dont blame you

plucky ridge
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I mainly carried it to open and close it

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The sound is so soothing

eternal wing
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that is as valid reason as any xD

cold current
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The OG fidget toy.

undone berry
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I don't think i could carry one without breaking it

plucky ridge
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Sure but I kept it fueled, too

undone berry
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but it is very satisfying

plucky ridge
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That's the part I wonder to myself about

young shoal
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smh ps4

plucky ridge
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Yeah I'd be so worried it'd sheer the bottom off

undone berry
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oh, that actually looks fairly easy

gentle moss
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but you're going to need more force, i just used my thumb and index for better viewing

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it can pinch the skin on your webbed bit

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and nah, the bottoms of lighters are thick as fuck

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like a good 5mm

cold current
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Cool trick, Bisk

gentle moss
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if not more

plucky ridge
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Fair enough

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Also explains why it feels like there's never much fuel in them

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Crafty bastards

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Alright, heading home, see you guys later

undone berry
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cya

gentle moss
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o/

cold current
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Peace, safe journeys

eternal wing
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ive tried to open beer bottles with a knife, I feel like im ether pathetically weak or just doing it wrong

gentle moss
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doing it wrong

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it's all about leverage

eternal wing
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hmmm this calls for some day drinking! (jk)

wintry cave
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@eternal wing How do you even open a beer bottle with a knife? :p

young shoal
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stab

narrow pecan
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saw

wintry cave
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bruh. I don't think that's how it works

cold current
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Chop.

narrow pecan
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grind

cold current
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Thwack.

narrow pecan
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cut

wintry cave
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._.

narrow pecan
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yes.

versed saffron
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bop

wintry cave
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🤦‍♀️

narrow pecan
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spank

wintry cave
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I kindof regret asking that now

versed saffron
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you ever spanked a beer?

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usually doesn't end well

wintry cave
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nope

narrow pecan
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yes.

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For example, you can spank someone on the cheek

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Or spank your hands when you wanna applaud someone

eternal wing
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@wintry cave well I cant xD

wintry cave
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I had a friend who clapped my hand sooo hard

eternal wing
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just like with a lighter though

wintry cave
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it hurt so bad

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oh..

eternal wing
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or countertop

narrow pecan
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...

eternal wing
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or teeth

narrow pecan
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bite

cold current
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No no no. Don't do that

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Teeth are important

narrow pecan
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yes

wintry cave
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lol

marsh tulip
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Teeth are pretty nice

wintry cave
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i need teeth whitener x.x

eternal wing
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teeth are overrated

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ill take one pair of titanium, arduino powered dentures plz

rough sapphire
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when resetting, does keeping files save the files stored inside c:/programs files

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like custom settings for games or apps

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nvm, not that big of a deal ig

rough sapphire
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i need help on how to stop procrastinating

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i need to like

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focus

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on school stuff

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but what i do is watch tv all day

tranquil orchid
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Oof

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I feel like once you get into the habit of being productive you won't stop

rough sapphire
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and i used to study for 2hrs a day and then i go tout of it

tranquil orchid
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I hate not being productive now

rough sapphire
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now i dont do any python or any school work or anything

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sure school hasnt started yet but i dont like not doing productive stuff

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i used to do python everyday and learn more python and do school things more and now i do nothing

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and i dont ever feel like doing python n school again

tranquil orchid
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Music on

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Work for hours

rough sapphire
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i need to like do this again

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where i studied for school and did python

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work for hours?

tranquil orchid
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If i have some music

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I can go for hours straight no problem

rough sapphire
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but music is distracting

tranquil orchid
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Depends

rough sapphire
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and i cant really focus and i lost interest in school and python

tranquil orchid
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Music stops me from procrastinating

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Its just in the background and if i start to loose focus i just focus on the music for a lil

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And then back to work

rough sapphire
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i need to get back to those days where i did and learned python everyday and studied for 2 hrs

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instead of sitting around tv all day

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listening to music but

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i like have to watch video tutorials on my python and music is gonna be distracting

tranquil orchid
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i mean in that case yeah just focus on the video and turn the music off

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I only play music when things would otherwise be silent

rough sapphire
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but u see i just lost all my interest in learning python and school stuff

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and i keep procrastinating

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to study later

tranquil orchid
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I mean you kind of either have motivation or you don't

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But i feel like once you get into the habit

rough sapphire
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i wanna go back to studying every day

tranquil orchid
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You don't want to procrastinate anymore

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Its momentum based

rough sapphire
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then how do i even get into the habit

tranquil orchid
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By hating every second of it

rough sapphire
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forcing myself to do it?

tranquil orchid
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Pretty much

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I mean it may just come to you when school starts again

rough sapphire
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i need to also do python again

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i completely stopped

tranquil orchid
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Idk about you but personally I hate going into like a test or exam knowing i haven't studied etc

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I don't let myself not study

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So school might help

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and after that doing python again will be easier since you'll be in the habit of being productive

rough sapphire
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i just keep on leaving it

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i just wake upa

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and watch tv

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and i never study

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i procrastinate it

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i used to have a good streak

tranquil orchid
#

Cause once you stop its harder to start again

#

So once you start again

#

Don't stop

rough sapphire
#

yeah idk how i stopped

#

i went from 2hrs to 1 hour 30

#

then just 1 hour

#

and then i stopped doing school and just only python which went to 30 mins

#

and then i completely stopped

gentle sierra
#

just do it

#

ez

rough sapphire
#

...

tranquil orchid
#

I mean yeah theres no secret you just have to do it

rough sapphire
#

ig

gentle sierra
#

i was kidding

#

but okay

rough sapphire
#

Not sure why you deleted your message, but check the examples

gentle sierra
#

colors wow

#

good color

prisma geyser
#

Might be stupid but :
Do recruiters check the number of your github followers?

frank nimbus
#

it's not facebook...

#

if I develop a niche package, I expect to have a small number of follower.

#

I think they check code quality and organization, if you implemented CI/CD, stuff like that

stuck meteor
#

A guy says 50 but I think it's 100

#

why would it be 50?

graceful basin
#

because if the horse is 1000 more expensive than the saddle and the saddle is 100, how much does the horse cost?

gentle sierra
#

100

#

ez

#

wait

graceful basin
#

||50 because 50+1050=1100, whereas with 100 you have 100+1100=1200||

soft violet
#

Horse is 1000 greater than saddle. So subtract 1000 from the combined 1100 to get the saddle.

#

Which is 100.

tranquil orchid
#

i would say 50

graceful basin
#

saddle + horse is 1100

#

not just horse

tranquil orchid
#

^

#

1000 greater than 50 is 1050

#

1050 + 50 = 1100

soft violet
#

Basic maths, guys. Come on.

tranquil orchid
#

Didn't you just say 100 lmao

gentle sierra
#

horse + saddle = 1100 horse is 1000 more than saddle saddle = 100

tranquil orchid
#

if the saddle is 100

#

then its 100 + 1100

#

which is 1200

#

so that doesn't work

gentle sierra
#

1000 + 100 = 1100

tranquil orchid
#

its the sum of the horse and saddle

#

but its 1100

#

since the horse is 1000 greater than the saddle

#

i.e 1100

soft violet
#

Oh damn.

#

Damn damn damn.

stuck meteor
#

it's 50

tranquil orchid
#

ye

gentle sierra
#

hmmm

graceful basin
#
                        horse = saddle + 1000
               saddle + horse = 1100
     saddle + (saddle + 1000) = 1100
saddle + saddle + 1000 - 1000 = 1100 - 1000
                   2 * saddle = 100
                       saddle = 50```
soft violet
#

Yeah, yeah. I'm a durrface.

stuck meteor
#

it's easier than u think

soft violet
#

Yeah, but I'm an idiot.

stuck meteor
#

I didn't do the equation though, so i answered 100

graceful basin
#

I have learned to always check my solutions against the problem statements

stuck meteor
#
x = horse
y = saddle
x + y = 1100 #1
x = 1000 + y #2
Let's replace the x in the #1 equation
1000 + y + y = 1100
2y = 100; y = 50
soft violet
#

Well, now that I've sufficiently embarassed myself, I'll go back to something simple. 3D vector math and L-systems.

stuck meteor
#

but if you simply read the question you will answer 100

#

:)

graceful basin
#

I got so confused by Rs.

#

I was parsing the . as sentence stop

stuck meteor
#

me too LOL

gentle sierra
#

bruh

plucky ridge
#

@rough sapphire https://javascript.info/ is probably one of the best introductions into JS that's currently out there. It focuses on using the modern conveniences that the JS standard offers, and attempts to dissuade you from using older more error prone ways of doing things.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/javascript
The MDN is also an incredible resource. Probably better used as a reference book more than anything else, but still an incredible site that covers the whole gamut of web stuff, including HTML and CSS

rough sapphire
plucky ridge
#

If you have any questions let me know. I'm at least relatively comfortable with JS

rough sapphire
#

Sure! Thanks for the help (in advance)

plucky ridge
#

Always happy to help where I can

wet crane
#
rancid forge
tranquil orchid
#

Oh how the turns have tabled

rancid forge
rough sapphire
#

oh-how-the-turn-tables

tranquil orchid
#

I'll second that as a new ot name

rancid forge
#

i'll third that as a new ot name

rough sapphire
#

Gonna be honest, that wasn't my original idea

#

Just something I remember being said in The Office

quick ledge
#

it's from The Office- yeah

rancid forge
rough sapphire
#

16K is now.

#
  • some TV maker
rancid forge
#

should i get the mod

rough sapphire
rancid forge
rough sapphire
#

I also love l12n

#

I mean, again with that l12n mod, why not

rancid forge
rough sapphire
#

uhhh what does that do

rancid forge
quick ledge
#

sounds cool

rancid forge
#

now let's just break the everything by playing minecraft

quick ledge
#

the everything is overrated anyway

rancid forge
quick ledge
#

break away my dude

rancid forge
#

just do the equivalent of commenting out the crashing code: disable the breaking mod

rough sapphire
#

The Everything*

rancid forge
#

where's the fun in that

rough sapphire
#

Does Minecraft even still run

rancid forge
#

yea

rough sapphire
#

Oh

rancid forge
#

it's actually closer to 150 mods but i forgot that i added a mod that creates fake mods

rough sapphire
#

Ahh

#

Is that for like

#

Stress testing?

rancid forge
#

who knows

#

the mods are empty

#

the modsmod is generating like 250 mods upon startup

#

now my performance is terrible because i get to deal with a little thing called sodium not being updates yet

rough sapphire
#

Does Sodium still give you 60?

rancid forge
#

it gets me 45

#

but that was on 1.16.1 with ~200 mods

#

this is 1.16.2 with ~150 mods and no sodium

rough sapphire
#

Ah

rancid forge
#

im getting about 10fps right now

#

it's gone up to 25ish

remote socket
#

@rancid forge I'm hoping you mean "chunks"

rancid forge
#

yea i do

remote socket
#

ok good lol

rancid forge
#

i can't spell

#

fixed the it

remote socket
#

Thank

rancid forge
rough sapphire
#

Damn

#

Maybe wait for the Sodium update?

#

(I'm saying that like the update's gonna be released tomorrow, huh)

rancid forge
#

it'sfine, i can just do some fishing

rough sapphire
#

Hey, you do you

rancid forge
#

remember extreme hills? i do

rough sapphire
#

Wait, whaa

#

That biome got removed?

rancid forge
#

biome was replaced

#

with "Mountains"

rough sapphire
#

I see

plucky ridge
#

Aren't "extreme hills" just mountains anyway?

#

Or is this like a 90's thing

#

Where they're also "tubular" and "radical"

low chasm
#

Hi

rough sapphire
#

I mean, they can be mountains if you think "extreme" can mean "steeper"

undone berry
solid pollen
#

doit

sand goblet
#

\o/

rough sapphire
#

Oh, Firefox, never change

#

@rough sapphire What's the bug?

#

Being able to disable/re-enable an event listener for a given node

scenic blaze
#

I wonder how much ram it would eat up to add in interpolated voxel smoothing

solid pollen
#

Depends on the number of already existing vertices (well, edges here), the interpolation resolution and your smoothing algorithm

scenic blaze
#

I want a solution displayed for every pixel on someone's screen

stuck meteor
graceful basin
#

I have literally never had an indentation error since I started using a passable editor

undone berry
#

I've only had it when copy pasting code from elsewhere and just sort of hoping the IDE fixed the indentation for me

#

but yeah - a complete non-issue

solid pollen
#

this same

plucky ridge
#

Even slightly crappy editors get this right

rancid forge
#

there (sorta) is a main in python

plucky ridge
#

Yep, the name thing

rancid forge
#
if __name__ == "__main__":
    # run code
#

wait

#

if you import something

solid pollen
#

Even slightly crappy editors get this right
@plucky ridge notepad doesn't lemon_fingerguns

rancid forge
#

and say import thing as __main__

#

would that fire the code in the if block

solid pollen
#

Yes, but that'd be really stupid lol

plucky ridge
#

Wait, would it actually?

#

I thought there'd be some sort of conflict

rancid forge
#

import * as __main__

round rose
#

as __main__ shouldn't trigger that IIRC, I believe it only affects the name that the module is bound to

solid pollen
#

* ain't valid though

plucky ridge
#

That's what I thought

rancid forge
#

it does not work

round rose
#

You can, however, do import __main__ as self (at least in the REPL) and do some funky stuff with it

solid pollen
#

Unh

plucky ridge
#

Figured. It's just an alias

#

Back later

solid pollen
#

Guess you could inject the __file__ variable

round rose
#
>>> import __main__ as self
>>> self.var = 10
>>> var
10
>>> del self.var
>>> var
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
NameError: name 'var' is not defined```
rancid forge
#

wait if __name__ is just a variable...

solid pollen
#

Yeah, it is

rancid forge
#

you can change it

#
>>> __name__
'__main__'
>>> __name__ = "cheese"
>>> __name__
'cheese'
>>>
solid pollen
#

Not sure though

#

Oh yeah

rancid forge
#
>>> __name__ = lambda x: x
>>> __name__
<function <lambda> at 0x000002841C2E61F0>
>>> __name__('a')
'a'
>>> def __name__(x):
...     return str(x)
...
>>> __name__
<function __name__ at 0x000002841CACE280>
>>>
rough sapphire
#

Any fps gamers here? I got a problem

young slate
#

What problem

sinful copper
#

anyone else having trouble loading youtube videos in firefox? they won't play at all for me, chrome works fine

stark prawn
#

Doing it right now, so no, any particular errors in the console?

sinful copper
#
MouseEvent.mozPressure is deprecated. Use PointerEvent.pressure instead. base.js:1016:347
Some cookies are misusing the recommended “SameSite“ attribute
#

doesn't look like anything important

stark prawn
#

Ironic that google is misusing SameSite, pretty sure they were going to change that thing aswell.

honest star
#

I'm playing youtube videos of FF fine right now too

sinful copper
#

tried deleting cookies, tried logging out [deleting cookies didn't log me out, probably because i had google cookies], tried an incognito tab

#

@rancid forge if you want to run the demo window in tkinter, it's defined as _test()

#

ugh i really don't want to switch to chrome, i hate its font rendering

#

spotify's not working either what the fuck

stark prawn
#

Have you tried turning it off and back on again?

sinful copper
#

i've restarted firefox multiple times, i guess i'll restart my computer now but seriously wtf, chrome is working just fine

rich moon
#

uninstall and reinstall?

sinful copper
#

restarting my pc fixed it

#

no idea why restarting firefox wasn't enough

stark prawn
#

I'm rewatching the IT crowd rn. That's where I got this great knowledge.

tranquil orchid
#

Brain size increasing rapidly

scenic blaze
#

Great show

gentle sierra
#

if that doesnt work

#

your pretty much fucked

eternal wing
#

I was having issues with my server the other month. I was stuck for hours. My friend in IT told me repeatedly "its a dns issue"

I asked him why and he said "its always dns"... i rejected that reasoning and continued debugging.

It was dns error

terse sluice
#

i had dns issues as well

#

and also lots of other networking issues

#

but upgrading to 20 fixed it all

eternal wing
#

mine was: my power went out and forever that made my server get a new ip address even though it was set to static through my modem/router 🤷

terse sluice
#

well, i reinstalled ubuntu 18 like 3 times and it all worked well until i restarted it

eternal wing
#

lol, I dont update my server because last time I did everything broke

solid pollen
#

The famous /etc/resolv.conf issue haha

eternal wing
#

last time I updated, all my virtual hosts stopped working and I was a mad boi

topaz aurora
#

I should write a minifier for markdown

solid pollen
#

a.... minifier?

#

How would that work?

twilit hull
#

it minifies ofc

upper sand
#

freak. its so cool

#

Ai algos have really advanced alot for the image and video manipulation

#

👀

stuck meteor
#

Hi guys, someone good with wireshark?

#

I need to capture a handshake packet sent to the server

rancid forge
tranquil orchid
#

Whattttttt

#

Oh it is

#

Thats a nice green

#

I kinda like it

rancid forge
#

on another note, i think this is the fewest admins i've seen on at once

tranquil orchid
#

Pretty sure i've seen None at least once

#

Actually no since owners still count

#

Actually wait no yeah i have seen that

#

ModMails been at the top before

hazy abyss
#

can anyone help me with c

sand goblet
#

I've seen it with only a couple mods on before

#

It's rare though

topaz aurora
#

Finally got around to removing tests for __repr__

#

Why'd I add them in the first place smh

stark prawn
#

As long as you didn't test against hardcoded strings.

topaz aurora
#

I did

#

Alright great, now I have to add __eq__ for every subclass because I'm using such a non-standard way of naming attributes

#

Unless of course I just implement a complex one on the base class that accounts for other subclasses

stark prawn
#

||dataclasses||

topaz aurora
#

Great idea hyperlemon

#

Classes inheriting from a dataclass base class don't inherit the dataclass-ness right?

#

Just checked, it does

stark prawn
#

It would inherit what the dataclass has produced would be my bet.

topaz aurora
#

I could make the base class not a dataclass

#

Since it's an ABC anyways

stark prawn
#

!e
from dataclasses import dataclass

@dataclass
class A:
num: int

class B(A):
name: str

print(B(1, "Test"))

royal lakeBOT
#

@stark prawn :x: Your eval job has completed with return code 1.

001 | Traceback (most recent call last):
002 |   File "<string>", line 10, in <module>
003 | TypeError: __init__() takes 2 positional arguments but 3 were given
stark prawn
#

Nice

#

!e
from dataclasses import dataclass

@dataclass
class A:
num: int

@dataclass
class B(A):
name: str

print(B(1, "Test"))

royal lakeBOT
#

@stark prawn :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

B(num=1, name='Test')
quick ledge
#

always thought ABC was a sort of meta variable

stark prawn
#

Yeah, they don't inherit it, you need to make them both dataclasses

#

It's short for Abstract Base Class @quick ledge

topaz aurora
#

ABCMeta exists

quick ledge
#

yeah thanks Grote

#

got it

mild abyss
#

why are you learning Abstract Classes pithink ?

#

i see

#

wow dataclasses() cool. 🧐

plucky ridge
#

Oh yeah, dataclasses are awesome

topaz aurora
#

Argh, poetry keeps defaulting to my system python

plucky ridge
#

Is there a flag to tell it otherwise?

topaz aurora
#

I want it to work with my pyenv versions instead

#

I've installed it through pacman so that's one thing

#

Trying out a local installation

plucky ridge
#

Okay, so I've been having that same exact issue

#

I can't get anything to recognize the pyenv versions

#

No idea why

#

So if you figure something out please let me know, it's been driving me bonkers

mild abyss
#

btw is it good to sudo pip3.8 install package? the pip3.8 is not system pip.

topaz aurora
#

d o n t

#

please don't run pip with sudo

#

Bad things happen

#

@plucky ridge anything that involves the shell no?

plucky ridge
#

Well specifically PyCharm doesn't recognize them and as a result pipenv is giving me a hell of a time

topaz aurora
#

I'm considering just forking poetry and adding pyenv integration at this point, not gonna lie

plucky ridge
#

You might hold off on that and check to see when they're integrating plugins

#

I'm sure that'd be an absolutely loved one

topaz aurora
plucky ridge
#

It's closed but it seems others are still having similar issues, it's just that the original was resolved

#

Hmm

topaz aurora
#

I'll try a local installation and see if that helps

#

if it doesn't I'll probably have to write a wrapper script cause ¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

pipenv detects pyenv versions just fine too

plucky ridge
#

Maybe it's just a PyCharm issue in my case then

#

Hmm

#

Oooooooooooo

#

They count as "existing envs"

#

I didn't even consider that

#

Not exactly what I need but gives me a few ideas

mild abyss
#

Bad things happen
@topaz aurora oh sh—-

topaz aurora
#

Another option I have is pipx

#

See if that helps

mild abyss
#

i discovered pipx recently

#

like 3 weeks ago

#

i havent tried to use it yet

plucky ridge
#

I keep getting reminded that it exists but keep forgetting to mess with it

mild abyss
#

i think f1re wants a hybrid of pipenv and poetry

topaz aurora
#

Right, how should I approach this dilemma

plucky ridge
#

No idea

topaz aurora
#

Screw it, I'm writing a package

#

Very helpful error message

[pure@linux amalgam-lisp]$ poetry env use python3.7
Creating virtualenv amalgam-lisp-YcobcOCK-py3.7 in /home/pure/.cache/pypoetry/virtualenvs
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
NameError: name 'PosixPath' is not defined
Using virtualenv: /usr
mild abyss
#

the traceback was horrible

topaz aurora
#

I'll be writing an issue for it later

honest star
#

oh come onnnnnnn. I need to self report to my university everyday even if I don't go to campus?

topaz aurora
#

I'll be writing an issue for it later
Well, there's no need, using the installer from their website instead of pacman works really nice

#

Though you can probably count on me writing a wrapper script cause I'm lazy

#

@honest star I kinda miss using my school's attendance system

#

Given the fact that we were using RFID cards

#

and the attendance terminals bluescreened every now and then because of the scanner devices

#

Good times

honest star
#

Oof, that must've been annoying

topaz aurora
#

Considering there were a few hundred students in my year level, it does get annoying when there's only one terminal available

#

Oh, before I forget

#

Duplications happen as well; basically, instead of both a time in and time out, the terminals somehow send either both a time in or a time out, or two time ins and one time out, and ..., you get the point lol

honest star
#

that sounds like a poorly built and considered system >_>

topaz aurora
#

So much for an institute that focuses on technology lemon_eyes

#

I mean, the system is 4 years old

#

Plus the IT team is pretty small

rough sapphire
#

that sounds like a poorly built and considered system >_>
Welcome to systems that are built on shoe string budgets!

plucky ridge
#

And even the shoe strings are too cheap to last long

topaz aurora
#

Considering that the tuition fee is literally 1000 dollars a year I'm still astonished they didn't care about maintaining it

rough sapphire
#

Because they believe that "Maintenance" is a fancy word for "It's not broke yet", so they don't need to do anything to it.

#

It's only an issue when it breaks

topaz aurora
#

well, that's fair haha

rough sapphire
#

I mean, I'm not saying that's a good way to look at it

#

But it sounds like that's how they're looking at it

#

Because it's thinking like that, that opens up companies and the like to data breaches

#

They for whatever reason don't apply patches or approach things in a timely manner, because it's not "broken"

sand goblet
#

Huh. I see that Taylor Swift has left

#

We didn't get on but I hope the guy is alright

upper sand
#

Lol

#

Ela?

sand goblet
#

yeah

upper sand
#

Ahh

royal laurel
#

only one sunglass

rough sapphire
#

@royal laurel What is that status

royal laurel
#

simping

#

❤️

rough sapphire
#

smh

dapper jasper
#

lmao

royal laurel
#

i date gdude and you expect me to not find notch attractive

sand goblet
#

aki's psychological study project

#

haha

royal laurel
#

it's the same person but one is bald and rich

dapper jasper
#

lmao oof

rough sapphire
#

Huh.

sand goblet
#

I mean I think I'm a bit more progressive

#

haha

dapper jasper
#

she said it gdude

rough sapphire
#

I didn't really think of gdude as non-bald Notch, but, uh

#

It's been said now, I suppose

royal laurel
#

oh well yeah and he doesn't have questionable views

#

hell yeah

#

tfw gdude is just leftist notch

rough sapphire
#

But then again, Notch also sold Minecraft to Microsoft for two billion dollars

sand goblet
#

I mean I wouldn't mind a slice of that

#

for doing literally nothing

#

\o/

rough sapphire
#

I also love how he tried to justify it too. "Nothing has changed, I'm just stepping down."

#

Yeah, you've just got two billions reasons to leave, right?

sand goblet
#

haha, indeed

royal laurel
#

2.5!

sand goblet
#

oh that's significantly less reasons

#

but still reasons

rough sapphire
#

2.5? Thought it was a solid 2

sand goblet
#

:>

royal laurel
#

two billion five hundred million

#

2.500.000

#

yeah

#

❤️

rough sapphire
#

Imagine if you made anything and sold it for that

#

You wouldn't need to do anything ever again

sand goblet
#

I don't think I could just stop, though

#

which is what notch did

rough sapphire
#

I don't think I could either

royal laurel
#

i mean he never truly did, he just kept his devs on the low

rough sapphire
#

It's why you see folks like Bill Gates throw their money into fighting diseases and assisting others

#

Because once you get that kind of money, if you're not a jerk, there's no way you could reasonably spend it.

sand goblet
#

I mean I could reasonably spend some of it

#

it's hard to spend all of it though

royal laurel
#

How much you think he has left

#

2.4?

upper sand
#

??

rough sapphire
#

I would have no clue what to spend even a tenth of that on

sand goblet
#

apple

#

haha

royal laurel
#

he bought a house

rough sapphire
#

Just casually buy Apple

#

"Hey Apple, I own you, gg"

sand goblet
#

I mean why not right

upper sand
#

Lol

sand goblet
#

and then we can fix all the shit

royal laurel
#

G knows, I'd buy Mojang

sand goblet
#

mojang is definitely not worth buying

rough sapphire
#

Buy Apple and then just stop everything

gentle moss
#

his net worth is apparently 1.9bn now

rough sapphire
#

"I know how I said we'd make Apple better, but we're closing the business. gg"

sand goblet
#

I mean that would make apple better

rough sapphire
#

Ha

royal laurel
#

I mean yes his network did deprecate

#

Because,,, white supremacy,,,,,,

rough sapphire
#

I've apparently missed something in regards to Notch

royal laurel
#

Oh baby

#

Haven't you heard

gentle moss
#

shame all those tweets are gone

#

because he deleted his account

sand goblet
#

yeah. "shame"

royal laurel
#

Gone but never forgotten

solid pollen
#

Yup

#

*poof*

gentle moss
#

he tried to have an opinion on racism scott

#

and it wasn't good.

undone berry
#

Is there no single service that tracks all tweets ever?

#

there must be a nice searchable DB somewhere right?

sand goblet
#

there is but some of them are illegal

rough sapphire
#

I'd be surprised if there wasn't

royal laurel
#

Btw his take was "there's a war against white people"

#

That's a tweet
he pressed post on

rough sapphire
#

Makes me glad I deleted my account when they sold to Microsoft then.

gentle moss
#

microsoft even had to come out and distance themselves from him

#

and removed references to him from the game

royal laurel
#

if anything you should have kept it

gentle moss
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i think he actually spoke out in favour of qanon

sand goblet
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old MC accounts are valuable

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and that's fucking hilarious

royal laurel
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He fucking did lmao

sand goblet
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because there's literally nothing special about them

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yeah, he did

gentle moss
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what a twat.

royal laurel
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is it conspiracy theory time

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can i

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@sand goblet tugs on sleeve can i pleaaaase

sand goblet
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I mean

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you don't need my permission

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haha

gentle moss
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oh god no

royal laurel
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yeah but you're more rational than me

sand goblet
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well what did you have in mind

gentle moss
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lets not qanon / pizzagate this place up

royal laurel
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Oh no

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This is about Notch

undone berry
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I vote yes to conspiracies involving notch

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lets go

royal laurel
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Hello everybody, and welcome toooo
The Notch Timeline Makes No Sense

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I'm your host, Aki

gentle moss
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okay, i'm all for notch conspiracies

sand goblet
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🎣

royal laurel
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hahaaaaaa

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So here's what I think

rough sapphire
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Wait wait

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Before you say what you're gonna say

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Can I ask a question

royal laurel
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yes?

rough sapphire
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So, you know how Captain Planet's theme song says he's our hero?
D you ever think he's coming back, or is that theme song now a lie?

gentle moss
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i don't know, can you?

royal laurel
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He might!

gentle moss
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Captain Planet is just Ted Turner

undone berry
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damn bold ks

rough sapphire
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Why do I keep typing thing rather than think

royal laurel
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Because after 30 days the account gets perma deleted

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so he has to come back

rough sapphire
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@undone berry I'm an idiot, I apologize

royal laurel
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also i doubt tk can keep "politics" out too long

rough sapphire
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Anyway, work tiem

royal laurel
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SO THEORY

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From somewhere in 2018 to May 2019, Notch said some pretty fucked up shit right
But chronologically, it makes NO SENSE

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Wouldn't he, like, said something like that before....

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He's been on twitter since 2009 you'd thnk he'd have voiced his opinions prior

gentle moss
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couldn't that be related to the rise of qanon as a more widely spread and accepted conspiracy theory?

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as it definitely picked up speed around then

royal laurel
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he made one tweet about it

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he def made wayyy more about,,,, being white

gentle moss
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which is also a big thing down that qanon rabbit hole

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it's not just the conspiracies but a lot about racism / etc

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and the far right in general

royal laurel
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it's weird

undone berry
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The rise of the idea of SJWs (from the right's perspective) didn't happen til the mid/late 2010s, so I think it makes sense

sand goblet
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quotes by the way

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Q is legit. Don't trust the media

royal laurel
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It's weird how people at Mojang chose to distance themselves from Markus, not after he sold Mojang, but ater he tweeted those things

sand goblet
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notch on trans people

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you are absolutely evil if you want to encourage delusion. What happened to not stigmatizing mental illness?

royal laurel
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You worked with him for years and you never picked up any opinions like those?

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YEARS

gentle moss
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i think perhaps shit loads of money and whatever lifestyle he leads lead to him becoming radicalised

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and, really, that's what these types of things are

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radicalisation

undone berry
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The rightwing zeitgest of hating on SJW stuff is relatively recent. It's possible that he didn't hold those opinions til fairly late on

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I know plenty of people who have never met or thought about trans people

royal laurel
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I'm really fucking into the Notch timeline, I'm driving G insane with it

gentle moss
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or maybe he didn't even think about the issues

undone berry
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yeah, that's the thing

royal laurel
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it blows my mind

sand goblet
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you just think you are

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haha

gentle moss
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because he had other things to do

royal laurel
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what the fuck happened in the middle

undone berry
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it wasn't in the media too much - so he didn't come across it

royal laurel
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BUT THEN

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HE WENT QUIET?!?!!??!?!?

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If you look at people like JK Rowling, they continue to be bigots

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openly

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and get worse

gentle moss
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i wouldn't say she's got worse, just more vocal

royal laurel
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he just went radio silence

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and then cam back

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and pretended nothing happened

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like

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!?!?!??!?!?!?

gentle moss
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perhaps he missed the attention of being notch after everyone distances themselves from him

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and decided to try to shut the fuck up

royal laurel
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is just cra z man

undone berry
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I think there's plenty of perfectly innocuous reasons - e.g he decided he didn't want to be on twitter for a while

gentle moss
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shutting the fuck up and letting people forget the dumb shit you said is something people do

royal laurel
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oh charlie btw i'm talking 2019

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not this break

undone berry
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sure - but it holds for any break

royal laurel
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this break just seems like a scapegoat to just run away

gentle moss
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i think, in terms of his political opinions and shit, he just hadn't really thought about it and then went down a massive alt-right rabbit hole

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and took all that onboard

undone berry
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I just don't see anything interesting or conspiratorial in this timeline

royal laurel
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do you think

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he regrets it

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and that's why he left

undone berry
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He might regret it at some subconscious level, but I doubt he even admits it to himself

gentle moss
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i think he's got $1.9bn reasons to not give too much of a fuck

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unless he alienated the only people left in his real life

undone berry
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nah - I think he cares about his online persona more than money

gentle moss
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which would be a sad thing to happen to him

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for him, i mean

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who knows

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he can get in the bin though

sand goblet
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been trying to hunt town the other tweets

gentle moss
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oh please don't