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surreal otter
stark prawn
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Why? It seems like a fun game.

solid pollen
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It is a really fun

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I would like to host a multi-player server, but I don't have an online server, just a RPI, I wonder if that's enough

young shoal
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b r u h

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i haven't even lived for that long

graceful basin
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early on probably, but later it may get laggy

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I should play that again sometime

solid pollen
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Yeah, I don't know if the computing is done on the server or the client

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I'm guessing it is done on the server

graceful basin
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IIRC both somewhat, and only player actions and state hashes are synchronized

stark prawn
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Which version do you have?

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Ay run into ram problems

solid pollen
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1Gb

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There's an online platform with servers for free, even if they are really slow, it probably doesn't take that much resources then

stark prawn
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And apperantly there is no arm build

solid pollen
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Ah F

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Could use qemu static, but it will be even slower I think

mild abyss
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still downloading Manjaro because internet is slow. sucks to be in the Philippines

solid pollen
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Using the right mirror?

topaz aurora
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Can confirm, internet is bad here

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The Arch mirror here is also a few months late so that's fun

surreal otter
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Yea, I ❀️ factorio, I can get lost for hours

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days

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weeks....

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some factories you just don't vibe with and abandon after an hour or two

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sometimes...they go for a while

wooden silo
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Factorio is great.

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But coming from a programming background, it kind of frustrates me that it's so cumbersome to refactor your factory designs.

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It sure as hell ain't Refactorio.

sonic river
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i almost spilled my conke

wooden silo
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My condolences.

quick ledge
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lol

surreal otter
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I mean, bots and BPs

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make a tweak, copy paste the factory over a tile, wait to compile

solid pollen
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~~Don't forget to make your factory pep8 compliant ~~

surreal otter
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Multiplayer Factorio

wooden silo
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@surreal otter Once you research bots, I guess, sure.

surreal otter
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I used to love it, now I can't

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why refactor before you have bos?

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bots

wooden silo
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Because I'm stupid? πŸ˜„

surreal otter
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that's just wasting time for the sake of wasting time

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and there's a lot of time to be wasted in Factorio, trust me, I know

young shoal
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It sure as hell ain't Refactorio.
funniest thing i've read for a while

wintry coral
eager trout
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lol

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I bet no one would play a public piano in these times

wintry coral
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i mean you'd get bored sitting in the airport for three hours

sonic river
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they're covered in train stations here

wooden silo
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I don't know, it kinda seems like a disaster waiting to happen. There are lots of drunk people at airports, and a piano is really annoying unless the player is as good as this guy.

gentle moss
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yeaaaah

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i wonder how many people just cranked out chopsticks on it

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urgh that'd be painful waiting for a heavily delayed flight

eager trout
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gonna be done in no time

obtuse falcon
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parkour

upper sand
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@eager trout what app is that?

eager trout
upper sand
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Ty

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Dammit it doesnt hve elixir

exotic musk
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wait if im using a $5 nitro credit rn, and switch to the $10 credit do i lose the $5 one

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ping me with answer

eager trout
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@terse sluice sorry for the ping again, but, I would like to ask you something. I always see you coding something, literally everyday, are you working on many different projects most of the time or working on snek

terse sluice
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lol yeah

rancid forge
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they're trying to fill their hard drive so they have an excuse when they "forget" to pull the updated repo

terse sluice
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i'm working on a bunch of different projects

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i juggle them around

eager trout
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what is your basis of inspiration?

terse sluice
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well, ideas just pop up into my head and i'm like, wow i should build that, it'd be super cool

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that's basically how it goes

rancid forge
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ok so somehow apparently i've been mentioned most in this server than (probably) my other servers combined

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i take that back, the next 3 combined (probably) add up to more than this single one, but the next 2 combined do not

solid pollen
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I'm curious about something then @terse sluice, how long do you spend per day programming? lemon_thinking lemon_pleased

rancid forge
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probably like 125

topaz aurora
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125 what though

rancid forge
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just 125

terse sluice
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i leave my computer on vs code a lot, but probably 3-4 hours on average.. sometimes more

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i'm going to have much less time when schools starts again though

rancid forge
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i leave my computer on idea a lot

topaz aurora
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Huh, would you look at that

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I have no classes later today

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Time to learn AWS I guess

cold current
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I leave my computer on 24/7 unless I'm forced to shut it down, haha

plucky ridge
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I try to restart once a week or so

cold current
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Currently at 25 days of uptime, I think my power went out or something...?

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My record stands at 200 or something

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That's a lot for a personal desktop, nothing for servers, though

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The machine with the highest uptime that I have been on was like three years

solid pollen
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I'm one of those people that have to shut down their pc every day lemon_pensive

cold current
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What OS do you use?

solid pollen
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Manjaro Linux

wheat lynx
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As you were asking

rough sapphire
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ty so much

plucky ridge
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Do we have that one whitelisted?

undone berry
plucky ridge
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Nifty

undone berry
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if someone did like: discord gg c5hSfZ would the filter catch that?

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I'm assuming not, given that it didn't catch my message

plucky ridge
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Correct

young shoal
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servers are meant to run 24/7 so you can't really compare

honest coyote
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hey guys,is there any better language than python?

stark prawn
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It has it's strengths and it's weaker points.

honest coyote
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pls share with usπŸ™

young shoal
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python is much slower than a language like C for CPU intensive things

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however, python is generally easier to develop with, so you are able to create things faster

honest coyote
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then it is not good for gaming?

young shoal
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for game development, python is usually not the best choice

honest coyote
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then,which one is?

young shoal
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c#, cpp, c

honest coyote
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ohk

young shoal
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if the games are simple enough, python should be fine

rough sapphire
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@scenic blaze so.. uh... remember the ctypes probelm?

scenic blaze
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Yeah! Did you ever figure it out?

rough sapphire
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heh..

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i came back to that.

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i was ssh-ed into my vps..

scenic blaze
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whoops

rough sapphire
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xD

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works fine now

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:D

scenic blaze
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Yay!

undone berry
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@bleak lintel I can't respond in #728010915580084336 so I'll respond here instead. The IO domain has had it's security/reliability issues resolved by now, but there are other problems with the domain. Mostly the fact that it's profiting off of the UK governments refusal to give the Chagos Islands back to the native islanders https://www.diagrams.net/blog/move-diagrams-net

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that's a blog post about draw.io moving away from the .io domain

scenic blaze
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Oh, interesting

undone berry
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no you didn't

scenic blaze
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Fair

undone berry
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draw.io is an infinitely better name - but respect to them for changing IMO

scenic blaze
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agreed

bleak lintel
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@undone berry ah, that sounds about right

frozen crane
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please no python with braces

eager trout
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^

mild abyss
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@rough sapphire btw thanks for recommending me with manjaro. i didnt need to install the firmwares πŸ˜‚ though an ACPI BIOS ERROR is still there and idk what to do with it

eager trout
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wait till you get millions of angry developers because of syntax errors

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It can't be done at this point and theres no reason to add them

soft violet
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We already have sets and dictionaries sharing {}s.

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What's one more?

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😏

rough sapphire
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why would you want braces?

rancid forge
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// Obfuscating Minecraft does weird things:
int i = true;
sterile meadow
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selling hacks for fall guys on pc dm me if you are interested.

spiral ridge
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!rule 6

royal lakeBOT
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6. No spamming or unapproved advertising, including requests for paid work. Open-source projects can be shared with others in #python-general and code reviews can be asked for in a help channel.

spiral ridge
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!rule 4

royal lakeBOT
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4. This is an English-speaking server, so please speak English to the best of your ability.

spiral ridge
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!rule 5

royal lakeBOT
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5. Do not provide or request help on projects that may break laws, breach terms of services, be considered malicious/inappropriate or be for graded coursework/exams.

spiral ridge
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^

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check rule 5 and 6

mild abyss
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@sterile meadow wth bro

young shoal
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he's gone

quiet wren
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why would you want to hack on fall guys

young shoal
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Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

rancid forge
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which java api for discord should i use

young shoal
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i used jda

rancid forge
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that's what i decided

upper sphinx
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hi

scenic blaze
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ho

uneven nacelle
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Well I tried using text edit to run Java

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It’s really cool how a mac can do that so smoothly, but the UTF-8 stuff is so wonky I think I’m gonna stick to an IDE

undone berry
soft violet
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Ew.

undone berry
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that about sums it up yeah

gentle moss
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it is a facebook product

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but yes, ew.

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it's like when razer tried to make you login to use your frickin mouse drivers

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except facebook

undone berry
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also, a mouse doesn't cost Β£800

gentle moss
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also that

undone berry
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oh - it's only the Index that is that expensive, I had it in my head that the Index was Oculus - but it's HTC

sand goblet
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It's HTC, yeah

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But it's arguably also the best out there

undone berry
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I think the Index is mostly accepted as the best out there right?

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at least among VR nerds

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I know that's what Rabbit from this server has

soft violet
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"Please login with your Facebook account to access the functionality of your asthma inhaler. Your usage data helps us help you."

gentle moss
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"We have updated our privacy policy, please agree to continue using this ventilator."

rough sapphire
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"This resuscitator uses cookies."

gentle moss
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oh hey sweet

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i figured out the better call saul theme from memory \o/

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fun thing i just discovered. the surface book seems to electrically charge the human body when you touch the frame?

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i can hear my pickups go fucking crazy when i touch the laptop frame :|

rich rover
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hmm

upper sand
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y does it sound so rusty or its just the effect ?

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but ye beautifully played πŸ‘

gentle moss
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it's because the mic can hear the acoustic noise of strings

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it sounds normal if you get a line feed from the amp

upper sand
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ahh fair enough.

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play us some sweet solos lul πŸ™ƒ if ur free

gentle moss
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i'm not a guitarist. Β¬_Β¬

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not so great at solos. :D

upper sand
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sexy licks sud work then 😏

gentle moss
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i came up with this one myself

upper sand
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noiceee!! love to hear that in fast tempo with some sexy licks added to it ayeee

gentle moss
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trying to improve my guitar skills tbh.

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i'm a bass player, not a guitarist

upper sand
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damn bass sexy asf

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slap it like wooo! i wanted to learn bass tho haha

gentle moss
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bass is fun. lots of stuff you can do with it.

upper sand
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def its fun. It not like i cant play bass but just here and there πŸ™ƒ

gentle moss
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practices makes perfect, sort of why i'm doing some guitar stuff more these days

rough sapphire
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==

gentle moss
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which is bass based

upper sand
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def practice is key. When me n my m8s do lil gigs we start practicing songs from month ahead lul

solid pollen
modern island
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was it even my suggestion lol

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nah it's not but still

gentle moss
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yeah, getting a few months practice in on a set is a good idea

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or just in general

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practice sessions can be where new ideas come from too

upper sand
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def !! few hrs serious session and just randomly playing ur own shit haha n sometime it turns out good tho ahha

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r u playing to do solo gigs or just as hobby afterwards ?

gentle moss
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oh i just like playing / making music.

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did some band / live stuff when i was younger but eh, not so in the mood for that

upper sand
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ah fair enough music always clear ups ur mood n its soothing

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n thats cool

gentle moss
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was fun but we barely made enough money to cover fuel

upper sand
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haha but hey bet u made some sweet memories out of it. pystrong

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im spiritualist kinda guy
|| and no im not a hippe lol||

gentle moss
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yeah it was alright, although not so much my scene

upper sand
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ah well.. but just keep doing what u love. slap the bass 😏

narrow pecan
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Does anyone know what "Lovefest" is?

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I've seen a lot of mods+ with that role

plucky ridge
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@narrow pecan It's our Valentine's Month event stuff

narrow pecan
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What's the "Valentine's Month event"?

plucky ridge
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So you know how we have @median dome bot? It used to be that certain months would be specific seasons/events and functionality would unlock during those times. February was essentially an extended Valentine's Day celebration, with fun little bot commands accompanying it

plucky ridge
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I love that people do that work for me

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I'm so bad about searching through our messages

narrow pecan
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Aah, alright! Did you stop having seasonally unlocked commands at some point?

plucky ridge
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I know we did something differently. I might be misremembering and it was simply a restructure on how we stored them.

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I know we had some there were marked as "evergreen" which means they could be used year-round

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.spookify

median domeBOT
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Mr. Hemlock
Is this you or am I just really paranoid?
plucky ridge
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Ah okay

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They're all unlocked now

quick ledge
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spookyyyy

narrow pecan
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Hmm, okay

plucky ridge
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That's what I thought was the case

narrow pecan
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Would be quite cool to have some restricted ones, to be honest. Still, I haven't really used @median dome that much

plucky ridge
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It's our beginner bot. Essentially a way for folks new to working on teams to contribute to the server and making something fun for the community

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And some of the functionality is locked behind seasons

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Such as during Halloween, @median dome will watch for key words like "spooky" and add reactions based on that

narrow pecan
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Aah, that's quite cool

quick ledge
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i saw a social distancing a bot on message history

rough sapphire
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can we combine nanotechnology , python tech together?

quick ledge
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what was that about

plucky ridge
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Yep, that was our April Fools for this year

quick ledge
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got'em

plucky ridge
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I still think it's going to be hard to top the "We're all just various accounts and personalities of lemon" we did one year

narrow pecan
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ahhaha that sounds awesome

quick ledge
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so who won it?

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or was that not a competition?

plucky ridge
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I think it was more just a challenge for the coder rather than a competition

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If memory serves

plucky ridge
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Found it

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Staff also changed their names to some variation of lemon or lemon and their name as well as changing our avatars to pictures of lemon

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It was great

quick ledge
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lollll

lofty dirge
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Followed by 1 day bans for everyone

quick ledge
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wait actually?

honest star
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almost 15k and a little less than 1.5 years later it's at... 90k?

plucky ridge
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Right?

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@quick ledge No of course not

quick ledge
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phew πŸ˜…

narrow pecan
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That's just hilarious πŸ˜†

plucky ridge
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Like I said, that one is going to be tough to beat

narrow pecan
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If it wasn't april fools, I almost would've believed him

plucky ridge
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Our owners certainly work hard enough that it's believable

ancient minnow
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sup guys, ive a question and this looked like the best server to do it

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so i have visual studio 2019 installed

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and also the vc++ compiler (or smth else idk what its called), so ive created a c++ file and i want to compile it without opoening visual studio but just using its compiler

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is this in any way possible?

plucky ridge
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Yeah it's possible. Let me see if I can track down how

graceful basin
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You need to open the VS command line, should be easy to google

plucky ridge
ancient minnow
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okay thank you

dapper jasper
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.spookify

median domeBOT
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asian_nerd
Is this you or am I just really paranoid?
dapper jasper
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oooh

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.spookify

median domeBOT
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asian_nerd
Is this you or am I just really paranoid?
dapper jasper
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welp

undone berry
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there are more than just that one tho

dapper jasper
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yea i realized sry

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so i got lucky and had the same one twice?

plucky ridge
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I think spookify is just a singular effect

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I can't quite remember

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It's all on the repo

undone berry
plucky ridge
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Ahh okay

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Then yeah, random chance was having fun

gentle moss
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well i forgot basshunter was a thing

plucky ridge
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I apparently hate myself. Got another inspiration burst (or more likely manic moment) and apparently now I want to make a Riichi Mahjong game

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Because that's what a sane person does

dapper jasper
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lmao

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anyone know how to turn an int into an id for the discord.py rewrite?

plucky ridge
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Wait, the rewrite? Or the current version. Because what was known as rewrite is now the current branch

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Unless there's a new rewrite

dapper jasper
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oh i guess the current version

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mustve been working with it for wayy too long

scenic blaze
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@plucky ridge If you want a playtester hit me up, love Mahjong

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fucking hate when someone calls Riichi on the first or second pass though >.>

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Especially in Japanese Mahjong you just feel like you've about to get boned at any moment

plucky ridge
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Yeah that's the worst. Just sweating bullets trying to figure out what they need so you can avoid it

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I think you can just use the converters they have. Like for our !user command we have the following signature:

async def user_info(self, ctx: Context, user: Member = None) -> None:
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Unless you're meaning something different, @dapper jasper

dapper jasper
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umm

plucky ridge
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This is also assuming you have:

from discord import Member
dapper jasper
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oh god i think i know where i messed up already

plucky ridge
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No worries

dapper jasper
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nevermind

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turns out 2 months with that paid off and now my mistakes are somehow worse lol

plucky ridge
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Gotta love when that happens

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@scenic blaze I have no idea if I'll ever actually finish this. Right now it's just another one of my wild pipedreams

dapper jasper
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    await ctx.message.author.add_roles(745706654242439278)
scenic blaze
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Hey, fair enough

dapper jasper
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this returns
AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'id'

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tried id() the int but it still didnt work

scenic blaze
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You know what I want to learn how to play one day?

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Shogi

dapper jasper
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im guessing its in the discord class somewhere buried in the docs

plucky ridge
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Oh god yeah. I played Yakuza a lot, which is what made me want to learn Mahjong, but Shoji... jesus

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I don't even know where to start

scenic blaze
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Haha, Yakuza is how I learned Mahjong

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and that's also one of my prime motivations for learning Shogi

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I always get whupped in Shogi in the Yakuza series

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Even on easy mode

plucky ridge
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@dapper jasper So in that context, the message.author just gives you back the person who wrote it's snowflake

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I think

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The folks in #discord-bots would be able to help you out far better than I can at the moment

dapper jasper
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oh

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i dont think its the message.author part

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ill go there

cold current
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Whoa, ontopic in offtopic? What is this

plucky ridge
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Fair enough. Yeah sorry, I'm fairly rusty in d.py

dapper jasper
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thanks and enjoy mahjong

plucky ridge
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@scenic blaze I'm just happy I managed to get pretty damn good Mahjong. I've even been binge playing one on my phone

scenic blaze
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I played one that kept giving you random hands and asking you to make the optimal move given a new piece

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then it told oyu how good or bad you were

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at life

plucky ridge
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That sounds really familiar but I don't think I ended up messing with it

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That's the one I've been playing

scenic blaze
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Nice, I'll check it out

young shoal
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lol i learned to play as a kid

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but i suck

scenic blaze
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Shogi or Mahjong?

plucky ridge
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I have no idea why but it just clicked and I got obsessed with it

scenic blaze
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For me it was because there were delicious, delicious achievements

plucky ridge
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HA

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I think it's because I used to play Rummy a lot with my grandma and this kind of struck that chord

scenic blaze
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There's like an evil dragon sword thing you get from Shogi for becoming the number 1 ranked player and I wants it

plucky ridge
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Yeah understandable

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Hmm.... Yeah, I should try this in Python first

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I was trying to do it in a different language that I'm still trying to learn but I should probably do what's familiar first and work from there

scenic blaze
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Makes sense

plucky ridge
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Been playing with typed languages too much

sand goblet
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You're definitely a language entheusiast by now hem :>

plucky ridge
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To my detriment

sand goblet
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When we have developer conventions again you're gonna be the most interesting guy in the room

plucky ridge
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And in fairness, ReScript is just a rebranded/repackaged Reason/BuckleScript

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So it's still more of the same

sand goblet
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the heck are reason/bucklescript

plucky ridge
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The partner to OCaml I've been talking about for the past month?

sand goblet
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It's been a busy month

plucky ridge
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Essentially a statically typed, functionally focused, type safe language

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BuckleScript lets it compile cleanly to JavaScript

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ReScript is just a much cleaner packaging of the two, since previously, you had to dance across like 4 different sites and it was confusing for new users

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But now I'm so rusty in Python that I'm hesitating hardcore

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I keep wanting to do typing things that aren't quite in Python

sand goblet
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That's one of the reasons I started looking at Kotlin

plucky ridge
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Yeah but I don't think me trying to pick up yet another language would help the situation

sand goblet
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I still don't buy that strict typing is definitely better though

plucky ridge
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I just need to suck it up and go with the one I know best, then convert when I can

sand goblet
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a lot of people seem to be in either camp

plucky ridge
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And no, I'm not saying it is, but it's helped me with code structure a LOT

sand goblet
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This I agree with

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I also appreciate stuff like the compiler being able to stop you doing stupid things

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like ensuring you're handling all possible cases of an enum in a switch/when block

plucky ridge
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For sure, and I friggin LOVE switch casing/pattern matching

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And Python's upcoming pattern matching just isn't what I want from it

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Not in the same way, at least

rough sapphire
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upcoming pattern matching?

sand goblet
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Oh, so we are getting it then

plucky ridge
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We're finally getting a match case

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Well I figure we are

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I'm not 100% sure

sand goblet
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Any kind of pattern matching is definitely an ergonomic improvement

plucky ridge
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It is but according to the PEP it's primary focus was on deconstruction?

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I think?

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Which is why it's more a match/case rather than switch/case

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If someone knows the PEP off hand I'd appreciate it, I can't remember which one it is

sand goblet
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this one?

plucky ridge
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Ah, yep, that's the one

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It's still in the Draft phase, but it is on the Standards Track, so it has some decent weight behind it

sand goblet
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This is good but it's a lot of nesting

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it'd be nicer if it had something like kotlin's functional assignments

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so you could do def x(pt) = match pt:

plucky ridge
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Yeah there's a lot of things that I'm not thrilled about in it.

sand goblet
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The problem I have with this kind of thing is how nested your code has to be

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python keeps getting extra features, but then we have to nest deeper

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kotlin solves this by allowing every single block type to return a value, and single statement functions can use = instead of a new block to make things even flatter (and removes the need for a return)

plucky ridge
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Yeah I really just don't know where it goes from here, you know?

sand goblet
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yeah

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I mean it's great, but

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eventually they'll just have to update PEP8 to 180 chars

plucky ridge
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It does make me wonder if the new interpreter will help loosen the bonds a bit

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Well that or change it to 2 spaces instead of 4

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Either would help

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Not a whole lot, but still

sand goblet
#

I mean it'd be less wide but you still have nesting super deep

#

I mean really what they'll tell you is to factor more things out into functions

#

but that's only so practical to a point

plucky ridge
#

True true

#

I think I know why I'm getting paralysis on making these classes. Unlike a deck of cards, I have to account for a handful of other things, so it's blocking me up

#

There's 3 simple suits each with tiles valued 1 through 9, then there's 2 kinds of honor tiles, with winds being valued East, South, West, North and dragons valued Red, Green, White

#

And that's just putting it at it's very basic core

#

So my brain is trying to figure out how I should juggle the basic Tiles class, or if I should separate it out further into simples, winds and dragons, with the latter two combining into honors

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Blergy blergy blerg

#

Okay, I feel a little calmer now

undone berry
#

eventually they'll just have to update PEP8 to 180 chars
@sand goblet
180 is waaaaay too long

#

No idea if there's more context

plucky ridge
#

It was just us talking about how with each new feature we get in Python, the further in we have to nest it so that stuff just keeps edging closer and closer to the right hand margin

sand goblet
#

There is more context haha

undone berry
#

Ah fair enough. I just opened my phone and responded to the first message I saw

plucky ridge
#

Wait, stupid question. When using typing, can you set the type to be a like, specific value of possible options?

sand goblet
#

Hmm

#

You mean like an enum?

rough sapphire
#

v

sand goblet
#

VVVVVV

plucky ridge
#

Yesh

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THAAAAAAT'S the word I needed

#

I don't know why that was slipping my mind so terribly

sand goblet
#

\o/

#

All good

plucky ridge
#

TOTALLY forgot that was a module

#

-sighs-

#

I have had my head out of the game for too long

sand goblet
#

Happens to us all

scenic blaze
#

I thought we hated pep 622

#

and yay enums

#

I love this, trying to build off of old code that says "width = 32"

#

32 what? 😦

sand goblet
#

int 32

scenic blaze
#

It's not number of samples, I only have about 140. It's not the x index units, that goes from 4-16

#

maybe maybe the size of a wavelet transform but idk if they even use that

#

Whatever. I'm just going to ignore it

red willow
#

oh man what a day...just bug after bug I am chasing down and trying to correct

scenic blaze
#

Did you catch them all?

red willow
#

nope

#

still digging in

#

this is data-related though, so a lot easier to track

#

but I worry it is causing some of the programmers I work with some issues

#

actually, some are bugs, others are just errors

rancid forge
young shoal
#

πŸ€”

rancid forge
young shoal
#

wild

sand goblet
#

oh, kotlin/native does support wasm

#

good to know

rough sapphire
#

Didn't know that about null

rancid forge
sand goblet
#

you can't cast null to any primitive type

#

they're not objects so they can't be null

rancid forge
sand goblet
#

that's not casting

rancid forge
scenic blaze
#

Pfft, in c you can cast a null pointer to ANYTHING

sand goblet
#

yeah but C has no objects

rancid forge
#

oh wait there's an EmbedBuilder

rancid forge
sand goblet
#

Jython exists too

sullen thorn
#

pls no

rancid forge
#

jython doesn't exist for python 3

twilit hull
#

jython github says they stopped maintaining that and moved to other stuff iirc

rancid forge
#

am i allowed to upload a 0 byte exe file

twilit hull
#

do it

#

experiment abit

#

progress requires sacrifices

royal lakeBOT
#

Hey @rancid forge!

It looks like you tried to attach file type(s) that we do not allow (.exe). We currently allow the following file types: .3gp, .3g2, .avi, .bmp, .gif, .h264, .jpg, .jpeg, .mkv, .mov, .mp4, .mpeg, .mpg, .png, .tiff, .wmv, .svg, .psd, .ai, .aep, .xcf, .mp3, .wav, .ogg, .webm, .webp, .m4a.

Feel free to ask in #community-meta if you think this is a mistake.

rancid forge
#

oh ok

#

good bot

twilit hull
#

i dont trust like that

rancid forge
rich rover
#

1.12.2 is found in some old servers

mild abyss
rough sapphire
#

why did the icon change? is it automatic or manually done?

young shoal
#

automatic

rough sapphire
#

cool, like u

#

u bot jk

#

sorry

#

are you an actual bot tho? @young shoal

young shoal
#

no, why

rough sapphire
#

why not

rough sapphire
#

hello

#

I like Marie kondo, she's so pretty

#

but kinda short and lives in california, so sad for her kids

young shoal
#

??

rough sapphire
#

crime rate, high taxes

#

insinuating that her kids might get bullied a lot, given they just moved there

rough sapphire
#

@sudden wagon

#

It is usually not needed to change the type of a variable at run-time

light swan
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

sudden wagon
#

wdym?

rough sapphire
#

Can you elaborate what you meant before

sudden wagon
#

so say you have a variable
int var = 1

#

and you want to change it’s data to 1.5

#

int var = 1.5 can’t exist

rough sapphire
#

Yeah, it can't

#
int v = 1;
v += 0.5;
// v is still 1
#

Because java automatically converts some types for you, so what's really happening, is: ```java
int v = 1;
v = v + (int)0.5;

sudden wagon
#

Ohh

#

so you would need to know beforehand

#

whether or not a variable’s data is going to be transformed into a float

#

so like

var += 0.5
\\ var = 1.5?```
rough sapphire
#

Yeah, var is 1.5 then

sudden wagon
#

ahh i see

#

that’s weird

#

why is it different in python?

rough sapphire
#

Python allows you to change types names refer to at runtime, so:

#

!e ```py
a = 1
print(type(a))
a += 0.5
print(type(a))

royal lakeBOT
#

@rough sapphire :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

001 | <class 'int'>
002 | <class 'float'>
rough sapphire
#

It changes as it's needed

#

It's just a different way of designing a programming language

#

The Java way allows for more optimization/speed and type-safety while Python's way is more intuitive and quick to write

sudden wagon
#

What do you mean by type-safety? and when would you want it?

rough sapphire
#

I believe type safety has mutliple definitions, but I would say it's that Java can tell you when you are messing up the types before you even run the program, and Python won't know until you have reached the point at which the error occurs.

#

Say you have a function in Python, like so py def a(a, b): return a * b and you call it like so: ```py

h = "Hello"
w = "World"

a(h, w)


The same example in Java: ```java
float a(a, b) { return a * b; }
``` ```java
String h = "Hello";
String w = "World";

a(h, w)
```, Java immediately knows that this doesn't make any sense, because it checks the types of h and w against the types specified in the functions signature
#

Although there are linters and other tools that will do this kind of checking in Python, but even they aren't perfect.

dapper jasper
#

does anyone know how i can reverse the @has_permission?

#

like
@has_permission(manage_messages=False)
so that the event or command only works on those without the perm

gentle moss
#

fuck sake virtualbox has taken control of my mouse

dapper jasper
#

bruh

gentle moss
#

the fucking USB takeover of virtualbox is dumb as shit

gentle moss
#

oh huh, gmail outages

#

yaaaaaaaay

#

wondered why ticket volume was up

solid pollen
#

Well yes, you are working at Google, you should fix that asap >.>

gentle moss
#

pffft, like i'd work for google

#

too thick.

solid pollen
#

I wonder if working at Google is that great

rich rover
#

It is not

gentle moss
#

probably about the same as any other large scale corporation job?

rich rover
#

Well....

#

I worked there once

#

I had to check large chunks of code

gentle moss
#

quality assurance?

rich rover
#

Yeah

#

And there were a bunch of tests

#

I removed the invalid ones

#

And they started a case about this

#

It lasted for a couple of weeks

#

Until they found out it was me

#

Very very bad experience

#

Very picky people as well

#

I hated programming because of these tests

gentle moss
#

i've read a lot about their hiring practices

#

but that's the same across the whole megacorp programming field

rich rover
#

Yeah quite similar

#

I agree

gentle moss
#

giving people insanely difficult tests that don't even relate to the job they're applying for

#

like getting someone applying for a devops role to write some kind of algo

rich rover
#

But they're very sensitive and picky about their data

#

Yup

#

Very irritating stuff

#

I quit because I couldn't handle the pressure

gentle moss
#

the big companies do sound like intense places to work

#

high expectations and that

rich rover
#

Generally, best experience is in small corporations

#

Unless you want to get destroyed by seniors, then megacorps are your go-to place

gentle moss
#

i have a hard time imagining what it'd be like working in companies of that scale

#

i've only really worked in small IT teams, right now in a 6 person company

lofty dirge
#

the big companies do sound like intense places to work
Rofl

#

Maybe FAANG but elsewhere, not really

gentle moss
#

that's what i was referring to

#

i always forget the correct way to smoosh those letters together

lofty dirge
#

Because widely used service that deals with a ton of data

#

Video streaming is difficult

gentle moss
#

especially in the US where they've had to fight with combo ISP/Media providers

#

who was it that extorted them for peering again? verizon?

plucky ridge
#

That sounds right

#

Big Red likes to keep as much control as they can

lofty dirge
#

Verizon also do media streaming

#

One of my coworkers used to work for them in video delivery as they called it

gentle moss
#

the whole cable tv / internet industry seems corrupt as fuck over there

plucky ridge
#

Well

#

Yes

#

It's very incestuous

lofty dirge
#

They hired a lot from Netflix and other site they had a few people from was pornhub

plucky ridge
#

They've all cut up their pieces of the pie and don't want any new players robbing them of the ground they "earned"

lofty dirge
#

Which does a metric ton of video data.

gentle moss
#

their cdn must be nuts

#

phub

mild abyss
#

guys can anyone help someone in #help-cookie i thought i can help but i dont have pygame installed cause i recently did something for my laptop

gentle moss
#

heh... nuts.

lofty dirge
#

Yea, ignoring their content, it’s a ton of data they deal with

plucky ridge
#

Someone will address their question when they can, Bio

gentle moss
#

oh good news everyone

#

steve bannon has been arrested for fraud

#

\o/

plucky ridge
lofty dirge
#

They have to track all that data as well because of payouts

plucky ridge
#

For being one or...

gentle moss
#

for actual fraud. they set up some kind of fundraiser deal that raked in $25m and lied about how they used the money

#

paying himself (and the other 3 involved) boat loads of cash

plucky ridge
#

Can't really say I'm surprised

lofty dirge
#

Color me not shocked

gentle moss
#

seems a bit weird to do a fraud when you've already got many millions

lofty dirge
#

Eh, that’s not a lot if your lifestyle matches it

gentle moss
#

true i guess

plucky ridge
#

Man, considering my lifestyle, I don't know what I'd do with that much money

#

Eat out more I guess

#

Or like

#

GrubHub at least

gentle moss
#

after nice house, car and some equipment i'm out of ideas

narrow pecan
#

What's GrubHub?

plucky ridge
#

Food delivery service.

#

It's like uber but for food

narrow pecan
#

Aah, sounds like GitHub, but not quite the same

gentle moss
#

why isn't there one for seafood

#

PrawnHub

narrow pecan
#

What's the matter with calling everything SomethingHub?

plucky ridge
#

It's trendy

gentle moss
#

soon the hubs will be phased out and replaced with switches

narrow pecan
#

TrendHub?

honest star
#

Grubhub was Seamless for a bit... or seamless bought grubhub and kept both services active? I can't remember

plucky ridge
#

HA

#

@gentle moss Okay, that made me smile

#

@honest star I think it was the latter. GrubHub has been under that name for at least 6 or 7 years

#

I might be wrong, though

gentle moss
#

no results for my location on grubhub

honest star
#

Also wheeee partial sick day from work today

gentle moss
#

both yay and awww

honest star
#

Tweaked my lower back yesterday and it is not better today ;_; So I can't even do gardening either. Just sitting, lying down, or very gentle stretching

gentle moss
#

huh, apparently GrubHub is an opt-out service for the restaurants

plucky ridge
#

"Opt-out service"?

gentle moss
#

yeah, if you don't want to be on GrubHub you have to tell them

#

otherwise they'll just add you

plucky ridge
#

I mean that kind of makes sense. The drivers would just go to the locations and order

gentle moss
#

restaurants apparently had problems with callers ringing up asking about their takeout orders and shit

plucky ridge
#

Ah, yeah that I could see

gentle moss
#

places that don't even do takeout were added

#

rofl

plucky ridge
#

Those are the ones where you'd want it most

#

I've actually tried a much larger variety of places than I would have normally because of it

gentle moss
#

yeah but if they don't have takeout containers or w/e what are they going to do with the orders?

plucky ridge
#

Like there's this little diner that has portions the size of your head for cheap

#

Scoop it into a bag?

#

Like just a paper bag full of coleslaw

honest star
#

Right into the hand and then hold it while delivering it

plucky ridge
#

Keeps it warm that way

gentle moss
#

:D

#

in my head i'm just seeing a guy riding a moped holding a chunk of lasagna in his hand

plucky ridge
#

With an overweight orange tabby setting a trap ahead of him

gentle moss
#

ooooh garfield

#

he does love lasagne

#

and hates mondays!

#

what a character

plucky ridge
#

To an unhealthy degree, you might say

gentle moss
#

not sure how unhealthy hating mondays is

plucky ridge
#

Har har

gentle moss
#

although bob geldoff doesn't look great

#

so...

plucky ridge
#

Wow, my brain's first retort was "Well you're no prize yourself, chief"

gentle moss
#

sure but like....

plucky ridge
#

Okay, fair point

gentle moss
#

did the boomtown rats ever chart in the US?

plucky ridge
#

Name doesn't sound familiar, but I'm also a bit sheltered in my musical tastes

gentle moss
#

looks like "I don't like Mondays" hit 73 in the billboard 100

plucky ridge
#

Neat

#

I'm apparently back on my Witchcraft, Mastodon, Clutch, The Company Band, The Sword and others kick

honest star
#

Welp, I'm on the last episode for firefly

gentle moss
#

objects in space

#

\o/

plucky ridge
#

@honest star You going to watch Serenity after that?

gentle moss
#

i'm apparently listening to someone playing singing bowls

honest star
#

Yup! Don't have much else to do today that doesn't involve manual labor of some sort

plucky ridge
#

@gentle moss I read that as singing bowels

honest star
#

I guess I can keep working on python GUI guide...

gentle moss
#

fart music?

plucky ridge
#

Si

gentle moss
#

i think that's a thing

plucky ridge
#

Polka specifically

#

@honest star Never a bad idea

gentle moss
#

i think there was a famous french guy who used to do fart tricks for royalty

#

like farting the national anthem

#

or butt smoking

plucky ridge
#

Le Pantomane or something like that, yeah

#

The Farter

#

Ooo I was close on the spelling

quick ledge
#

cool

plucky ridge
#

He gets talked a lot about on No Such Thing as a Fish

gentle moss
#

i love the fact flatulist is a real thing

plucky ridge
#

And he was super popular, too

gentle moss
#

professional farting

plucky ridge
#

It wasn't just a minor gimmick

gentle moss
#

i mean, i'd watch a clip of it

#

back in the pre-TV times i bet he was all the rage

#

where else are you going to get fart gags before Mrs Browns Boys?

quick ledge
#

It's like uber but for food
so like uber eats?

gentle moss
#

note: i do not watch Mrs Browns Boys

plucky ridge
#

@quick ledge .... yes. I actually forgot that was a thing

quick ledge
#

ah

gentle moss
#

Joseph Pujol was born in Marseilles, one of five children of stonemason/sculptor

#

i wonder how disappointed his dad was

plucky ridge
#

I mean with a last name like that it almost seems like nominative determinism

#

Considering how it'd be pronounced

gentle moss
#

He put his head under the water and held his breath, whereupon he felt an icy cold penetrating his rear. He ran ashore in fright and was amazed to sense water pouring from his anus.

While serving in the army, he told his fellow soldiers about his special ability, and repeated it for their amusement, sucking up water from a pan into his rectum and then projecting it up to several yards.

#

hahaha

plucky ridge
#

several yards
Okay, that is impressive

gentle moss
#

it really is

quick ledge
#

wild

plucky ridge
#

I can't imagine his family was too disappointed, I think he was fairly financially well off because of the performances

gentle moss
#

yeah but at the start

quick ledge
#

perhaps at those days people are simply grateful for any source of income

#

so his family probably didn't mind

gentle moss
#

well he was a baker, so he was probably doing okay

quick ledge
#

hope he didn't mix both his passions

lofty dirge
#

Also Grubhub would mark up menu prices causing customers to get mad

gentle moss
#

according to the wiki he used to entertain customers in his bakery by farting tunes

plucky ridge
#

All I can think is that he must have gotten dried out

gentle moss
#

it makes me think of that Ren and Stimpy character

#

powdered toast man

#

he farts on your toast to make it delicious

plucky ridge
#

Man the 90's were weird

gentle moss
#

they're bringing it back

plucky ridge
#

Well of course

#

Nostalgia is profitable right now

gentle moss
#

well it's about time for another Billy West vehicle

quick ledge
#

i hate how my brain takes unsanitised input and provide me with vivid imagery for most things i read

gentle moss
#

his voice acting is excellent

plucky ridge
#

Who needs new ideas when we're willing to pay for the same old ones

#

And agreed, I would KILL for Billy West's variety

#

Love that man

gentle moss
#

Ren and Stimpy is excellent, so i'm sort of hype for it

#

same for the new Animaniacs

plucky ridge
#

Sure but there's this little doubting Thomas in my head that's saying we're just getting duped into being okay with being fed the same stuff

gentle moss
#

i mean we get some new stuff here and there

#

i think it's more offensive in the meatspace tv as opposed to cartoons

plucky ridge
#

True

#

Well that's mainly because you can't really hear voice actors age quite as much as you can see normal actors age

#

So it very well might be the same folks doing the voices

gentle moss
#

for Ren & Stimpy and Animaniacs it's the original voice cast yeah

plucky ridge
#

And look at Mark Hamill as The Joker

#

Dude's been doing it since the 90's and is still going

gentle moss
#

his best role ever

plucky ridge
#

He's such a wholesome guy

gentle moss
#

managed to not be a huge dick even after all the star wars money

honest star
#

"That sounds like science fiction"
"You live in a spaceship dear"

#

Mark Hamill is great

gentle moss
#

"am i a lion? i don't think of myself as a lion, but i do have a mighty roar."

#

jubal is such a good character in that episode

honest star
#

How many Jokers has Mark Hamill done?

plucky ridge
#

Let's see.... The Animated Series back in the 90's, all the Lego ones (I think), the Arkham Asylum games...

gentle moss
#
#

chriiiiiiist he's busy

plucky ridge
#

The man is prolific

quick ledge
#

prolific, he is

plucky ridge
#

The way you said that is only made better by the fact that Yoda is your avatar

honest star
#

Starting serenity now~ I'm excited to see badass River

gentle moss
#

the bar scene is excellent

sullen scroll
#

nextstep is cool

honest star
#

I'm getting to the bad part in serenity =[

bright solar
scenic blaze
#

@honest star Which part is the bad part?

#

and yeah, badass River is the best part of Serenity

honest star
#

"I'm a leaf on the wind" ;_;

scenic blaze
#

Aww 😦

gentle moss
#

hey @honest star

#

how do reavers clean their spears?

#

they run them through a wash

#

get it

honest star
#

;_;

gentle moss
#

through a wash

#

still too soon.

#

Β¬_Β¬

honest star
#

It'll always be too soon

#

Ugh, all the characters and the interactions are so good. I would've loved like 3 more seasons

scenic blaze
#

Yeah, same

gentle moss
#

just have to read the graphic novels instead

#

i might re-read them this weekend

cold current
#

I like this channel name

#

I, too, have asked that question

rancid forge
#

petition to give bisk a role that allows them to stream in the voice chats

plucky ridge
#

As much as I would love that (and I would) we want to try and keep any streams like that relevant to the server topic

rancid forge
#

of topek voise chanal wen

spiral ridge
#

ven vill ve havve vis voise jannel vor ofv topiv

round rose
#

I see the russian vaccine is starting to wear off

spiral ridge
#

phesip

plucky ridge
#

@round rose $5 says the vaccine was just morphine

#

They'd feel fine after that

round rose
#

Fair enough

scenic blaze
#

Petition to give a role that allows streams in offtopic channels that are relevant to the channel name

gentle moss
#

petition to give me money

cold current
#

I'll sign it, but I'm not giving you any money

gentle moss
#

nice.

cold current
#

Happy to help

rancid forge
#

petition to petition for petitions

plucky ridge
#

Looks like you're trying to petition for repetition

solid pollen
#

The petition inception

cold current
#

Well done, Hemlock

scenic blaze
#
from itertools import cycle
petition = cycle("petition")
print(petition)
cold current
#

@scenic blaze You gonna be using itertools all the time now that you remember it exists? πŸ˜„

scenic blaze
#

Pretty much

#

I don't know how I forgot about it, it's pretty useful

wheat lynx
#

But that wouldn't exhaust the generator right?

scenic blaze
#

Well

#

It's a spoiler but ||that code is actually harmless||

wheat lynx
#

Lol, itertools is great tho

scenic blaze
#

||It just says that it's an itertools object||

wheat lynx
#

Yeah, that's what I meant

scenic blaze
#

I used cycle for a lot of algorithmic stuff

#

itertools is great for leetcode πŸ˜„

cold current
#

Itertools is great for leetcode any code

rancid forge
scenic blaze
#

...

rancid forge
cold current
#

@rancid forge Does it... fake a crash?

rancid forge
#

yea, fml fakes a crash report for the specs to show upon boot in at least 1.7.10

cold current
#

There has to be a better way of doing that...

rancid forge
#

there probably is, but if i were to pr it would be ignored

cold current
#

Yep, that's how it goes.

rancid forge
cold current
#

...Why?

rancid forge
cold current
#

Why did someone buy that domain...?

rancid forge
#

idk

cold current
#

Why not make it 1710.howoldisminecraft.today/

rancid forge
#

no

cold current
#

Then you can at least have multiple versions

rancid forge
#

and why would anyone want that

cold current
#

Forgive me - I forgot Minecraft has literally only one version which is of course, 1.7.10

rancid forge
#

then how am i playing 1.7.10 if the only version is 1.7??? :hmm:

cold current
#

My mistake

rancid forge
#

ah i need to backport conflict in harmony

#

(that's a mod that changes keybinds so they are better)
(and i need sponge mixin and things)

young shoal
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leetcode is horrible in python until you realize you have itertools

mental bison
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199 in decimal is 1100011 in binary right?

rancid forge
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no

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1111111 (seven 1s) is 127

mental bison
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oh

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my brain forgot that 2^7 was 10000000(8 digits) in binary and not 1000000(7 digits)

cold current
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I'm surprised they knew what a pineapple and metasploit were

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How would a parent recognize metasploit haha

spiral ridge
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thats why they put the logo

rancid forge
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I don't even know what those are

spiral ridge
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if you have a vm your a hacker

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or discord

rancid forge
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oh nooooo

spiral ridge
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or a linux distro

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(yes ik kali linux is used for penetration testing)

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the fbi is coming for us

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we need to hide

rancid forge
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(oh no)

spiral ridge
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quickly, hide in the drawers

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that was the first thing that came to my mind

cold current
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@scenic blaze Come here

scenic blaze
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Well, they original timeframe was 1-2 months, I took 6 weeks

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I still might spend a few days or an extra week cleaning things up and adding documentation with sphinx or something

cold current
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Dude, good damn job

scenic blaze
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Thank you. Man, what a crazy 6 weeks

cold current
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I remember a couple weeks ago hearing you stress over not finishing in time πŸ˜„

scenic blaze
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I metaphorically wanted to die so many times during this project because it would be easier, lol

cold current
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But you did it! And now you have a ton of opportunities open up, right?

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Man that must feel good to finally be done with it haha

scenic blaze
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Yeah. I'm negotiating a fulltime offer with the company right now. They want me to start right away fulltime but like... I kind of want a week off >.>

cold current
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Just take your sweet time finishing docs ;]

spiral ridge
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do you want to work with the company

scenic blaze
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Yeah, but I negotiated this contract pretty hard so their opening salvo for full time employment was kind of low.

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Which made me sad but it was to be expected

cold current
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Opening salvo?

scenic blaze
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I might have a competing offer coming in, but I'm not sure. I'm used to working with these cats though and would love to continue

spiral ridge
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before you worked at tech support, correct?

scenic blaze
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Their first salary/offer amount

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Haha, yeah

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So this is already more than doubling my pay of my last job

spiral ridge
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well this is much etter than tech support

cold current
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Dude, you gotta stick around that neuroscience guy πŸ˜›

scenic blaze
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Yeah, I'm learning so much and it would be so cool to be an assistant to a nobel prize winner

cold current
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I'd put that on my resume even if it wasn't relevant at all

scenic blaze
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Right?!

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He's publishing a major paper soon and I wish I had been on sooner and had helped him with it

cold current
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That's fucking awesome, being around people like that is just so nice

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Learn a ton + motivating as hell

scenic blaze
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Yup. You learn so much. At first everything they're saying is just gibberish, but it gradually starts to make sense the more time you spend with them

cold current
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Yea, man πŸ˜„ Honestly anyone who's truly, actually passionate is amazing to be around, no matter the field

scenic blaze
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Yeah, agreed

spiral ridge
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no matter the field
thats debatable

scenic blaze
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Okay, that's fair

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Someone who's passionate about kicking puppies probably isn't great to be around

spiral ridge
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or criminal activity

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or con artist

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well ig they kinda are yhte same

cold current
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Kicking puppies is a field? News to me

spiral ridge
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lying with statistics

scenic blaze
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It's too restrictive to kick them inside

spiral ridge
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i laughed at that

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im a bad person

scenic blaze
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Me too

cold current
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Haha

rancid forge
cold current
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Oh my god what?

rancid forge
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14 thousand files

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to be put into a directory

cold current
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The speed??

rancid forge
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slow-ish

spiral ridge
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its still calculating to this day

cold current
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ish? πŸ˜„

rancid forge
spiral ridge
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welp

rancid forge
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long long long journey

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ooh the names updated

cold current
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Why so slow?

rancid forge
sand goblet
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It's true!

rancid forge
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thanks previous owner gdude

sand goblet
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:>

spiral ridge
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wait python is not at level 3 boost

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so how come the invite link is this customized

rancid forge
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pardners

spiral ridge
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oh ye

rancid forge
frozen crane
tough peak
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yea

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Looking someone to help me with python if possible,

frozen crane
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I'm about to eat dinner but I'll probably check to see what question you posted after that

frozen crane
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@tough peak have you been able to solve your problem?

tough peak
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no i have no idea how to ask for help, leave it ill look someone alse

frozen crane
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all you have to do is write your question in one of the two available help channels. #help-cherries and #help-cookie are the ones open right now, but that could change.

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the ones that are available are always listed under "Python Help: Available" on the left bar.

upper sand
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what is kernel poll service ?

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how does this work ?

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i tried to google this but it doesnt show up anything on it

tough peak
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I did put my help question but it seems like no one can atm so nothing I can do about it, just leave it

rough sapphire
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What was your question?

scenic blaze
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Scott is on the job

rough sapphire
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It's a shame there's no popular game engine with good Python support

twilit hull
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lol

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imgaine if unreal supports python

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wed be playing at 5fps

rough sapphire
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Not really, it'd work just fine

twilit hull
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wait

rough sapphire
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for most games, that is

twilit hull
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so why doesnt it support python then

rough sapphire
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No real need for it to

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Yeah, Python isn't really established in the gamedev world

twilit hull
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hum

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maybe we could make an API that converts pygames to unreal

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idk how that would work lol

rough sapphire
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πŸ˜„

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Technically it's probably possible to give unreal some python support

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Since it's source is open, I think?

twilit hull
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lol

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let me google

rough sapphire
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Oh what

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😩 ```
The Unreal Python API and the associated PythonScript Plugin are used to script or automate the Unreal Editor using the Python interpreted programming language.

twilit hull
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lol wat that mean

rough sapphire
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Looks like it's only to extend the editor

twilit hull
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i think its py 2.7 as well

rough sapphire
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Yeah, this is editor only

twilit hull
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this is kool

rough sapphire
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Yeah, but blueprints really sucks for more complex logic

twilit hull
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the second question lol

spiral ridge
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unreal is poop