That’s your discriminator
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
narrow pecan
balmy stream
to discriminate people having the same username as me from me?
narrow pecan
Yeah, basically
narrow pecan
It’s randomly generated. With nitro, you get to choose it
narrow pecan
Ooo
balmy stream
why?
narrow pecan
There are a lot of fun things to learn about discord tbh
Because they want people to get nitro hahah
balmy stream
yeah i was planning on making a bot called "Srcsm" to convert all your text to its sarcastic form
like
I am a good programmer
I aM a GoOd PrOgRaMmEr
narrow pecan
Hahah welp
narrow pecan
Hahahah idk
Just search something about discord ids if you find it interesting. I’ve personally dug a lot into those kinds of things
balmy stream
hey how much experience do you have in python?
cause i need some help
with some modules and importing them
i asked in #python-discussion and they couldnt answer
narrow pecan
Loads. I’d recommend getting a help channel though. Check out #❓｜how-to-get-help
stuck meteor
where can i see a list of the available formats that can be used in the placeholders? ex. "{:,}".format(1000000)
round rose
plucky ridge
@carmine ore Can I pick your brain for a bit?
carmine ore
of course
plucky ridge
Are you primarily a JS dev or do you use some supersets like TS?
carmine ore
It mainly depends on the project I'm working on
Most of the time its just js tho
I dont like typescript for most projects cause it usually just ends up with the compiler giving me a stupid error that I cant get around
lofty dirge
Typescript is doing what it's supposed to....
carmine ore
its really not
plucky ridge
I've been toying around with other languages that compile down to JS and just wondered whether you'd heard of them or had opinions on them. ReasonML and Elm in particular.
carmine ore
I've heard of both, played around with Elm a bit. Havent touch Reason tho
plucky ridge
It's an interesting beast. It's appealing to me in a lot of ways. I like that it compiles down to very clean JS
Not the huge 11k lines Elm does
carmine ore
I might try it out sometime
plucky ridge
What kind of work are you normally doing, if I may ask?
carmine ore
Well for webdev, my front end is usually react with an express server
plucky ridge
Oooo, neat
carmine ore
I make games sometimes. I'll just use an html canvas for 2d and I'll use threejs for 3d
Discord.JS is my life
plucky ridge
Was actually just about to ask about game engine stuff
Been looking through the various ones and there's just so many it's hard to know what's best
carmine ore
Well first off, I hate UE4 with a passion
plucky ridge
Fair
carmine ore
Unity is alright, I just dont feel like paying for the full version
plucky ridge
And you said for Web stuff you're usually just working with raw canvas stuff? Or do you have a framework you prefer?
Thinking more 8-bit/16-bit RPG
carmine ore
Well it kinda depends. If I'm doing a 2d game, I'll either use a canvas or some html divs. Like if its a sidescroller type game, canvas. But if I'm doing like a candy crush type thing or something like that, divs.
As far as 3D games go. if its going on the web, I'll just use Three.JS and slap some physics and stuff in there
plucky ridge
Neat. Well cool, I appreciate you taking some time out of your day to humor me
carmine ore
Oh of course. I'd love to talk to you some more. You seem really cool!
plucky ridge
I'm pretty much always here during weekdays. I'm always down for a conversation
carmine ore
Nice, I work 8 hours a day so like, I probably wont be here that much
hallow needle
6wn tbgvdfsrrr fwcywnwfounre
plucky ridge
That's fair. Can always just ping me or DM me as well.
solid pollen
Guys, I'm really desperate, do you know how you used to setup the DNS before resolv.conf came into existence?
rich rover
hmmm
gentle moss
it's called "i don't think you got the right car, your kid doesn't like the noise!"
rich rover
very nice indeed.
gentle moss
fucking last 2 hours just this shit coming through my office window.
crying child, bickering farmers, absolute non-sense.
undone berry
I'm so glad to have heard your neighbours Bisk
from that 10s clip - I feel I can share your pain to some extent
gentle moss
that's them being quiet
undone berry
the baby crying + the accent
gentle moss
were revving the balls off the new car a few minutes before while i was on a support call
undone berry
is 10/10
spiral ridge
channel name
gentle moss
right. fuck this. if anything is serious my phone will ring.
undone berry
is it hot where you are?
gentle moss
yeah, they're garden people too
royal laurel
bisk you're famous
gentle moss
so if it's even slightly mild, they're always in the garden being loud shits
that's the 2nd time someone's said that in like 2 days. yes, i have ot names.
last mantle
bruh u said it is hot
gentle moss
that is hot.
gentle moss
~, not minus.
gentle moss
30c is where i'd say "fucking annoyingly hot" starts to kick in for me
prisma geyser
A silly question but: Do all of you guys use Linux or any Windows fan there?
plucky ridge
Same
I like Windows because more often than not, stuff just works
Most business programs are geared toward it, and for my line of work, that's a necessity
Linux I like because of the developer utility of it
And the cost
gentle moss
linux has that "i can do it all from a shell" feeling and i love it
plucky ridge
I'm curious to see if Windows will move more towards that
I mean they are developing a package manager
solid pollen
Oh are they
gentle moss
no he's asking if they are
solid pollen
That's a sweet news
gentle moss
or would
i don't think having a package manager will be that step towards linux-y usage of windows
plucky ridge
No no, they are making one
That's confirmed
I'm just curious to see whether we'll be able to be as flexible in the command line with it
gentle moss
oh no i'm the linux-y feel thing
gentle moss
i don't think you're going to get that from straight windows any time soon
plucky ridge
I don't either.
plucky ridge
Something more substantial than WSL?
gentle moss
yeah
although maybe i should check out WSL
i miss having my laptop's lubuntu setup at hand
solid pollen
WSL is the biggest joke ever: "You want to use linux? Well, keep our platform and use WSL, it is the same as linux, but you are still giving us money!"
plucky ridge
I mean... I have used it and it has made running some things more handy than having to set up a whole new machine or a VM
So I see where you're coming from, Ak, but I think it's more for folks who require Windows for their job or for other reasons but still want access to specific kinds of tools
I don't think it's a "See? We're just as good as them!" thing
solid pollen
Sure
prisma geyser
Ubuntu?
prisma geyser
Any idea which distro would be suitable for heavy lifting like Android Studio?
solid pollen
manjaro :>
gentle moss
they all should be suitable with the right tools installed
solid pollen
Just.. don't use kali
prisma geyser
Okies
rich rover
Apparently Gmail tracks your location
prisma geyser
Why isn't kali recommended?
gentle moss
kali is a toolbox, not a daily drive operating system.
solid pollen
Apparently Gmail tracks your location
@rich rover are you actually surprised lol
rich rover
I mean when I figured out people can exploit it with a python script
The moment you open the mail, your ip pops up on the other end
rich rover
Yup
lofty dirge
@prisma geyser I'm primarily a Windows SRE
Windows has had usable command line since 2016
and package manager, winget looks interesting but getting software to support it is difficult
most of crappy things with Windows are not OS but shit non MS software that runs ontop of it
I had 3rd party app developer tell me they only support Windows 2012 R2 in 2019
like WTF
prisma geyser
😂 LOL @lofty dirge
prisma geyser
I'll never @rough sapphire! It looks too complex 🤷♂️
lofty dirge
bisk, who the fuck knows
gentle moss
it is quite the wonder
gentle moss
i can't imagine it's much work to get the codebase running on 2019
quick ledge
what's latest version of discord app?
community/discord 0.0.10-3 when i searched using pacman
quick ledge
but i think the latest is supposed to be 11, not 10
since today morning, (or yesterday night, i forget), i am using browser for discord
because when I open the app it says new update available
but i cant seem to install the .tar.gz
pacman -U blah.tar.gz is giving me error
nvmm guys
continue with bik's radio dreams
charred fulcrum
e
spiral ridge
f
quick ledge
I
spiral ridge
ok
rich rover
Ask
spiral ridge
DATAJA - Don't ask to ask, just ask.
rough sapphire
@quick ledge
what's latest version of discord app?
0.0.11 on Debian
eternal wing
I am here for both radio and drama
rancid forge
well you're too late and bisk will no longer be offering radio dramas in 20 minutes, but will probably be doing something else
rancid forge
thermal everything
rancid forge
your_name[:2] + "launcher"
spiral ridge
Mu launcher?
rancid forge
¿
rancid forge
yea
spiral ridge
i thought you used sodium
rancid forge
sodium doesn't exist on 1.12 so it's optifine time
spiral ridge
ah
rancid forge
contrary to my beliefs, OF on 1.12 and earlier is fine
especially with VanillaFix (fixes crashes) and FoamFix (has the best graph ever)
rancid forge
happy new utc day
spiral ridge
yep
rancid forge
oh no
sand goblet
oopsie woopsie we made a wittle fucky wucky
median domeBOT
oopsie woopsie we made a wittwe fucky wucky
spiral ridge
you are old man
rancid forge
???
rancid forge
ah yes, my forge instance doesn't have forge
gdlauncher probably couldn't figure out how to do things
ok so i have these three channels set to "all messages" for notifications and i like that because then i know whenever things happen
oh and i also have #drama (formerly #wtforge) because i like reading things like "lex bad"
also also gdude's like everywhere
sand goblet
you get used to it
who knows, maybe you'll end up on the glowstone server eventually
rancid forge
i've never heard of this glowstone server...
sand goblet
Glowstone is a libre cleanroom bukkit server implementation
rancid forge
i failed to understand like a third of that sentence
sand goblet
You're welcome!
rancid forge
yay?
sand goblet
I must sleep, but I'm sure you'll figure it out
There's a site at glowstone.net if not
rancid forge
this is why i have the things thinged
why use stacks of 64 when you could use staccs of 65
rancid forge
times an off-topic chat in pydis has been killed by me: 4+
undone berry
That was tense to listen to
sand goblet
Haha yeah
tight coral
That feeling when you face a bug and think "But I've a test for this case and it pass!" just to realize there's a bug in the unittest as well...
quick ledge
write a test for the unittest o_0
topaz aurora
solid pollen
Solution : 100% coverage
ivory moss
write a test for the unittest o_0
@quick ledge ROFL
sand goblet
Has anyone been having shittastic phone battery issues today?
Or their phone getting unusually hot?
scenic blaze
Thankfully no, but my fiancee before she recently replaced her phone had issues where it could go from 80% battery to 7% in seconds. There was even once where she was at 80%, turned it off, but still needed to charge it to turn it back on
sand goblet
My phone lasts all day
I charge it all night
But I got up this morning, had breakfast
By the time I got to my desk it was at 15%
I've been able to confirm this issue on no less than three phones today
But they all run Android 10
You can see Google play services wrecking it here
scenic blaze
iPhones have a battery health gauge. Does your phone have anything like that?
Do your phones*
sand goblet
Google play services has had 2.5k wakelocks in the last 35 seconds
What even
Also I don't think so
It's not a battery health issue though
quick ledge
have you tried uninstalling and installing your battery? 
what kind of information is in the header of a TCP segment?
i thought t would be the length of the segment but that's calculated by subtracting the header length from the total length
what kind of data would the header have which helps to check whether the data recieved is erroneous?
solid pollen
Parity check?
quick ledge
parity check?
opaque depot
check sum?
quick ledge
yeah checksum is there
rich rover
What's this about?
rich rover
TCP header?
quick ledge
yes
solid pollen
Parity check is a form of checksum
quick ledge
simplest form appaarently
quick ledge
Apologies, but the page you requested could not be found. Perhaps searching will help.
oi
got it
i mean, i got the website
ty
yo I gotta ask one more thing
what does a UDP header contain?
i think only checksum
which it doesnt check btw
soo why do they include this checksum?
just in case the dude feels like checking?
solid pollen
It is actually always checked
In case something jammed
It happens pretty often actually
rich rover
Is there something called an NTP?
It has a command called monlist
600 registers are returned
I think....
floral viper
NTP as in network time protocol?
sand goblet
I really like
I just
google play services has gone through almost an entire battery
on its own
sand goblet
yeah but it's a system component, I can't just murder it
scenic blaze
damn...
round rose
I finally got myself to install a package manager and get rid of all the google bloat on my phone
round rose
I use some, but most of them just chomp on my storage room
sand goblet
hang on a second
no big deal for me
hmm
that was immediately DM'd to me by a user as soon as I sent it last time
sand goblet
just happened in ot2 as well
remote socket
that confirms it
sand goblet
you got it as well?
quick ledge
yep
remote socket
2 users
sand goblet
that's such an odd selfbot
remote socket
for some reason I'm not getting it
quick ledge
its an actual person too
last thing he asked was something related to msic bots
'how to make my bot play music'
quick ledge
just got an invite to a server
quick ledge
lol
remote socket
no big deal for me
scenic blaze
I got it too
quick ledge
remote socket
nope still nothing
scenic blaze
I got just one message
outer geyser
No I am not :DDD
quick ledge
you will get another soon
sand goblet
the invite or one of your own back?
scenic blaze
Sounds like someone trying to get their selfbot to work
remote socket
alright
scenic blaze
My own back
rancid forge
if i dont type than am i avoided by whatever it is
outer geyser
=)))
quick ledge
so what's the deal?
outer geyser
Idk
scenic blaze
It was instantly when I typed something, I got that message in my DMs
sand goblet
I see a message keeps being nuked in ot2 as well
remote socket
lol
outer geyser
soo sorry :((
remote socket
@outer geyser Is that a confirmation that you're selfbotting?
Either way you're spamming others with invites
quick ledge
oh it's xith testing
did u dm modmail too?
remote socket
!ban 293756081530863626 selfbotting
royal lakeBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied ban to @outer geyser permanently.
solid pollen
Are you legally obliged to ban them, or it is just insta ban for self botting?
remote socket
ToS
sand goblet
you have to take action, yeah
quick ledge
plus he did sever invites
sand goblet
it's a partnership requirement
remote socket
gotta yeet him off this server
sand goblet
although they've talked about punishing non-partner servers that don't do it on twitter too
scenic blaze
I need an FIR filter design that has as narrow a bandwidth as I can get while also having a time delay longer than 0.5 seconds.
Or I could take a nap
taking a nap sounds easier
sand goblet
ZEN FIRE ZE MISSILES
wheat lynx
I need an FIR filter design that has as narrow a bandwidth as I can get while also having a time delay longer than 0.5 seconds.
I know how to do that
WHOOPS quoted the wrong message
Or I could take a nap
I know how to do that
quick ledge
lol
scenic blaze
😄
Damn, you got me all excited
I think I just have to drown and immerse myself in the math
scenic blaze
The problem is that with filtering there are all sorts of drawbacks depending on what kind of design you use, you just have to choose a design that suits your purpose and gives you drawbacks that you don't care about in your particular application. It's a really interesting field but it's also really dense and complicated.
lots of maths
quick ledge
gdude, actually i was gonna ask you about the covid app
do you fear any privacy breach?
sand goblet
No
It's private by nature
Our app is open source and the technology is well understood
quick ledge
ah cool
rancid forge
I like JSDoc
rough sapphire
I do too
dense palm
I remember memorizing truth tables for university. Lol.
ivory moss
imagine telling the truth
strange barn
imagine generating truth tables
strange barn
Imagine remembering the truth tables for computers 🤣
scenic blaze
Imagine remembering
solid elbow
somewhere between 1% and 3% of the population have no ability close their eyes and picture something, and are surprised when they find out that most people can, and that "picture yourself on a beach" isn't just a figure of speech but something that most people can literally do.
soft violet
I know two people with it. One from here and another in rl.
solid elbow
somewhere around 600 to 1800 people on this Discord probably can't picture anything when they close their eyes.
soft violet
One wonders if there are any extraordinary feats of cognition people with the condition might be capable of by way of having to compensate.
obtuse falcon
some one will answer u
solid elbow
I've never had a good answer for how I picture code.
obtuse falcon
non vsible flow chart
obtuse falcon
make it in ur brain
scenic blaze
No, I have to use this whiteboard, I paid for it
obtuse falcon
how much
scenic blaze
around $200
strange barn
__
obtuse falcon
200 * 7.30 = to much money
strange barn
hello there
obtuse falcon
i am turkish
strange barn
200 * 7.30 = to much money
@obtuse falcon too*
obtuse falcon
i am turkish
@obtuse falcon
scenic blaze
(Before anyone asks, I'm not going to take a picture of it because it's covered in proprietary information)
solid elbow
I think I don't visualize code, at least, not much - I'm not one of the people who can't make a picture when I close my eyes, but we've been discovering that people's ability to do that varies on a spectrum, and I think I'm less able to do it than average. I think it through like a logic problem, rather than visualizing it like a flow chart. Or something like that...
obtuse falcon
scenic blaze
When I'm presenting it, I use a flow chart
When I'm actually trying to work through code, I sort of have these short bursts of epiphanies and I wave my arms around and rant madly and then code a bunch of stuff.
strange barn
¯_(ツ)_/¯
solid elbow
Actually, the same people who have no ability to close their eyes and see something also can't summon a smell, or a taste, or a sound. I think I'm actually better at doing all 3 of those than a picture. 😄
obtuse falcon
||less imagine sendronem||
solid elbow
strange barn
||less imagine sendronem||
@obtuse falcon what's||less imagine sendronem||?
solid elbow
It's called "aphantasia"
strange barn
i wanna have that thing
solid elbow
so, actually, literally translates to "lack of fantasy", which isn't so far off from "less imagine", heh
obtuse falcon
i am 1
strange barn
i am 1
@obtuse falcon one what?
obtuse falcon
print(bool(1))
strange barn
oh, true
solid elbow
!e print(True + 0)
royal lakeBOT
@solid elbow :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.
1
what is it like to have the syndrome?
obtuse falcon
!e print(bool(1))
royal lakeBOT
You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.
obtuse falcon
am angy
solid elbow
using !e in public channels other than help channels is a staff superpower 🙂
obtuse falcon
strange barn
@solid elbow wow staff
solid elbow
what is it like to have the syndrome?
@strange barn the link I pasted explains it better than I can, from a 30-something-year-old guy who just learned that other people can do this, heh
obtuse falcon
no @solid elbow cant
solid elbow
1%-3%, estimated.
obtuse falcon
strange barn
🤦 welcome to life
https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-seriously-exasperated-gif-7304550 the other 99% - 97%:
obtuse falcon
obtuse falcon
thats bad
solid elbow
🤷 colorblind people don't know they're colorblind until other people tell them.
obtuse falcon
if i have athign like this
strange barn
well colorblind + synesthesia is pretty much a bad/good combination.
obtuse falcon
how
solid elbow
synesthesia is another real weird one
synesthetes also report having no idea that other people don't perceive the world like they do.
I have a coworker who says that, whenever he pictures letters, all of the vowels are different colors, but all of the consonants are grey. And that he only learned that other people don't have the same experience when he was in his 30s.
obtuse falcon
my brain is unable the take because: ENGLİSH_NOT_ENOUGH
solid elbow
strange barn
yea
obtuse falcon
❤️
solid elbow
letters or numbers being associated with colors is the most common type, I believe
strange barn
changing name...
transferring letters...
[||||||||||] 100% done
adding bee emoji...
[||||||||||] 0% done
completed
though yeah, tons of other types.
soft violet
I'm not a synesthetic in the usual sense, but I have experienced it once.
solid elbow
psychedelic drugs? head injury? 😄
soft violet
Acupuncture.
solid elbow
whoa, interesting.
soft violet
Mm. There was this point near the side of my knee. If you've had acupuncture, they tap insert the needle, off comes the sheath and they wriggle around the needle until they hit the point.
At which point there's this electric shock kind of sensation which will often strike down or up a given path.
The needle went in and as it hit the right point, a distinctly brown feeling shot down my leg like lightning.
solid elbow
that's wild
soft violet
It was so alien and so brief, I am still in some doubt as to if it really happened.
solid elbow
I think I have a lower-than-average ability to draw mental pictures, but my anecdata is that psychedelic drugs ramp it way up, to the point where I could visualize animated cartoons, or other things that I can't begin to picture now.
scenic blaze
Hmm
Now I wonder where I'm at with regards to that and if there are people who visualize things way more vividly than I do
floral viper
The brain is indeed pretty fascinating. I started getting these weird glitches when I went to sleep a while ago. Like that scene where neo is being pulled out of the matrix the first time. I freaked out but after consulting a doctor it turns out it was just a stress reaction conjured by the brain.
obtuse falcon
scare hmmm
solid elbow
Now I wonder where I'm at with regards to that and if there are people who visualize things way more vividly than I do
@scenic blaze https://aphantasia.com/vviq/ find out!
scenic blaze
The brain does some crazy shit under stress
soft violet
There's that guy who looks at entire cityscapes then draws them accurately from memory.
spiral ridge
isnt glitches a computer term or am i wrong
floral viper
Best way I can describe it. It feels like a glitch in reality basically. Visual and auditory halucinations
solid elbow
isnt
glitchesa computer term or am i wrong
@spiral ridge you're not wrong, but it's not inaccurate to apply it to other stuff. The best guess we have about why deja vu happens is that there's a race condition between your brain's retrieve-from-memories routine and your store-in-memories routine that makes it so that a thing you've just experienced is stored in your memory and then immediately read back as though it happened before.
floral viper
I see white noise in front of my eyes even though they are closed and I hear this weird sound like someone is playing a tape backwards
It all happens for a split second
spiral ridge
wait where were you or what were you doing when this happened
floral viper
I was in my bed falling asleep
solid elbow
white noise with your eyes closed is very common. I haven't heard of the sound before.
scenic blaze
I'm taking a look gg, but I might be too tired for this, haha
floral viper
The way the doctor described it it was basically a bunch of stress being released as the brain was going into sleep mode
soft violet
The large ghost spider I saw as I woke up was fun. I had woken up. A part of my brain, however, didn't get the memo.
solid elbow
@scenic blaze you can always try it in the morning, I won't assign a deadline 😄
spiral ridge
large ghost spider?
solid elbow
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis is pretty common!
spiral ridge
oh okay, like those snow-white spiders or bugs
soft violet
Just Australian things.
soft violet
No. Ghost spider. See through. Intangible.
empty prism
sleep paralysis sucks
solid elbow
I've never had that one, but I have woken up before my body can control one of my limbs - I've woken up to find that an arm is completely asleep and I won't be able to move it for 20 seconds or so after waking up
red willow
I get very creative thoughts while half asleep
scenic blaze
@soft violet Still sounds pretty typical to something you'd find in AU tbh
soft violet
Oh, very.
scenic blaze
I told my australian friend the other day "Where ISNT something trying to kill you in your country?"
He responded "Our schools"
empty prism
oof
solid elbow
ouch.
soft violet
I've had actual huntsmen. One whitetail on me in bed. Even the roofspace sugar glider.
floral viper
shots fired
scenic blaze
(in a school)
empty prism
we can add covid to that list now too...
solid elbow
Twitter
spiral ridge
i think we should have done that a while back
red willow
teachers aren't happy....
spiral ridge
espacially pre kindergarden teachers
empty prism
I really love how they teach critical thinking and geometry and schools. Like "how do you fit 30 kids in a classroom with sufficient spacing between them?"
solid elbow
red willow
should be an interesting experiment
I'm more interested in the outcome so we can play armchair quarterback
solid elbow
sure would be nice if we didn't experiment with "how many children will kill their grandparents". 😕
spiral ridge
what
empty prism
or, indeed, their teachers
spiral ridge
someone conducted an experiment like that
floral viper
Yeah I am just waiting for the part where all the kids lose their grandparents at the same time
solid elbow
schools in the US are reopening, despite the fact that we do not have coronavirus under control and anticipate the situation getting worse, not better.
we know that children spread disease real, real well.
soft violet
The idea that any kind of spacing arrangement would have any significant impact on the spread in that environment is ridiculous.
scenic blaze
The "logic" is that other countries are reopening their schools so we should, too.
Even though those other countries have already beat the coronavirus
empty prism
our numbers are big, super big, you've never seen bigger numbers, I'm told they're the biggest numbers
scenic blaze
But that's two logical steps, too hard
floral viper
There is no logic lol. This entire thing is so politically charged that it stopped make sense a long time ago
Politicians be politicians
solid elbow
scenic blaze
whistle
empty prism
love being a human gambling chip!
spiral ridge
i once saw something on twitter where these children played a game called coronavirus which is tag but coughing on another participant to make them it bc the schools won't let them touch each other
red willow
schools around here just don't have a good setup to make sure all students can access the zoom class
empty prism
"viral" photo, indeed
red willow
students should go to the classroom, teachers teach them virtually
strange barn
i once saw something on twitter where these children played a game called
coronaviruswhich is tag but coughing on another participant to make themitbc the schools won't let them touch each other
@spiral ridge bro that's wild
empty prism
I can't imagine being a kid rn tbh
red willow
because some of the lower-income kids won't be getting education if they aren't in school
soft violet
Keep everyone apart. Break the chain of transmission.
spiral ridge
i dont really understand why the schools are opening
espcially after the coronavirus game
scenic blaze
Oh, I understand
solid elbow
one day last week, Texas reported as many confirmed positive covid cases as the UK reported on its worst day, April 22.
scenic blaze
I just don't agree
soft violet
You can't learn if you're dead.
red willow
you honestly think kids are at risk of dying of covid?
this is about transferring it to seniors
strange barn
👨 ----- >= 1 m -------- 👨
Stay safe!
red willow
kids are HIGHLY unlikely of dying from covid
solid elbow
Kids can die, too, admittedly at less than the 1% rate that adults are at.
empty prism
I've seen the idea of learning "pods" going around, a small, constant group of kids gathering at one house each day that has the internet to support them. That might work
scenic blaze
It's okay though, kids don't have families, right?
floral viper
one day last week, Texas reported as many confirmed positive covid cases as the UK reported on its worst day, April 22.
@solid elbow Confirmed cases don't tell the whole story though. They are affected by testing. Better to look at death statistics, grim as it is
red willow
yes, death statistics is what I look at it
solid elbow
@floral viper sure. But that's only relevant to bring up if you think our testing is catching most cases.
red willow
and it is trending well
empty prism
I'd like some longterm complication stats...
scenic blaze
fun fact, I believe US is above 3% death rate for covid rn
solid elbow
Our confirmed positives are probably ~1/10th to 1/15th of true positives, which is only more terrifying.
floral viper
@floral viper sure. But that's only relevant to bring up if you think our testing is catching most cases.
@solid elbow I know your testing isn't catching all of it, hence it is an untrustworthy source. Hard to not register a death though.
solid elbow
no, it's easy to not register a death...
scenic blaze
I apologize, that's not a fun fact
red willow
no it isn't
spiral ridge
they can do it virtually
they may not have phones or computers but can the government make a budget to buy a few 100 - 200 dollar computers
floral viper
Right you can attribute it to other facts. Age, flu, pneumonia, etc. But it is a hell of a lot more accurate than mere confirmed cases
scenic blaze
How many billions of dollars was slated to the military in the last "relief" bill?
soft violet
With preparation, leadership and vigilance, this all could have been over with in a couple of months. But nooo. We can't have that, now, can we?
red willow
I am not sure about a couple of months
scenic blaze
Same. Could be over in less.
floral viper
China could have been more transparent without it. Satellite photos have shown hospitals in wuhan in panic mode as early as august
China is really to blame for it turning into a pandemic
solid elbow
no it isn't
@red willow I mean, the death is recorded, but its cause not attributed. Give me a minute to find a graph...
red willow
yea, not impressed with China. Hoping we hold them accountable.
scenic blaze
Hoping someone holds the US accountable
red willow
agreed
soft violet
Who took out the early warning staff from China?
red willow
better testing was needed
soft violet
Who scrapped their pandemic plans?
solid elbow
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/04/27/covid-19-death-toll-undercounted/?arc404=true - the best I can find on short notice.
floral viper
@soft violet I doubt they could have done much since the party was going full blackout
soft violet
China is to blame, because China, but that's only half the equation.
scenic blaze
@soft violet How many guesses do I get
soft violet
Do you really need any?
empty prism
and I'm proud to be an American 
solid elbow
If you look at counts of deaths compared to the number of deaths that are averaged on that day year-over-year, you'll find that our number of deaths show a huge spike, and only part of the spike is attributed to covid - the rest of the spike is probably caused by, or related to, the pandemic as well, but isn't recorded that way, and isn't reflected in our official death figures.
strange barn
and I made frozen tea 🍵
empty prism
Frozen tea? 🤔 like a popsicle?
scenic blaze
I'm pretty plugged in to political news generally, except over the last month since starting a new job. Which is like a decade of news cycles
spiral ridge
frozen pizza -> frozen tea
strange barn
Frozen tea? 🤔 like a popsicle?
@empty prism yea
solid elbow
or, to put that a different way, the official numbers say lots of people were dying of the flu in June, and flu season is usually over by then. 🤔
spiral ridge
you cant trust the news
strange barn
frozen tea
tea put into freezer and then it's frozen
soft violet
It's not like you can really trust the US government counts. Counts. I said counts.
scenic blaze
The best I can do is watch late night comedians who cover it.
empty prism
I mean what flavoooor
strange barn
tea flavor
scenic blaze
THat way I can laugh while I cry
floral viper
If you look at counts of deaths compared to the number of deaths that are averaged on that day year-over-year, you'll find that our number of deaths show a huge spike, and only part of the spike is attributed to covid - the rest of the spike is probably caused by, or related to, the pandemic as well, but isn't recorded that way, and isn't reflected in our official death figures.
@solid elbow You are correct. There is a political will to lower the statistics by cutting out deaths from complications related to covid, pneumonia for example. When I was looking at this back in march/april I also looked at the deaths from flu and pneumonia to get a better picture.
spiral ridge
i can imagine that
empty prism
🔫
red willow
I can't imagine the deaths are undercounted by much if a few got missed. Deaths are trending well where I live, this is good news imo. Down to single digits per day.
quick ledge
isn't pneumonia a major factor for death due to covid?
strange barn
my tea bag is also frozen ❄️
scenic blaze
I live in a state where everybody should be practicing social distancing and mask wearing and people just don't give af
spiral ridge
Deaths are trending
quick ledge
frozen tea or iced tea?
strange barn
frozen tea
quick ledge
damn
floral viper
isn't pneumonia a major factor for death due to covid?
@quick ledge Yes and no. A fairly large number of people survive covid but the infection have made them very vulnerable to penumonia which is caused by a bacteria. So a lot of em die from bacterial infection afteeards
solid elbow
@red willow the deaths are probably undercounted by about half. Which is a lot, but at least it's not an order of magnitude.
soft violet
Frozen teabag. There's an uncomfortable thought.
strange barn
haha
quick ledge
will a frozen tea bag even work?
soft violet
What I find interesting are the strokes.
red willow
I highly doubt it is half. It would be receiving more media coverage. We will have to wait until the aftermath to get more evidence.
strange barn
i think yes but S L O W L Y
soft violet
and other organ failures
empty prism
the dude who changed my oil told me my mask was killing me. Can't wait to move out of this town
quick ledge
S L O W L Y = as it becomes unfrozen
strange barn
yes
empty prism
I mean if a tea bag is just leaves, how frozen does it really get?
strange barn
hmm
solid elbow
@empty prism I grew up in a ~1500 person town, and moved away as soon as I possibly could, and have zero regrets.
floral viper
can you freeze something that is dried? 🤔
quick ledge
damn
one thread is talking about covid deaths
another is talking about f ro z e n t e a b a g s
empty prism
lol
red willow
looks like they are trying out new room names
solid elbow
multitasking, man.
empty prism
And yeah, this town ain't quite that small (~20k pop) but it still sucks. Was okay when I was a college shut-in, but it turns out I wanna like... do stuff?
quick ledge
the dude who changed my oil told me my mask was killing me. Can't wait to move out of this town
tell him it's the Dihydrogen Monoxide the government is pumping into our houses
that's actually killing us
soft violet
and do we even know if it can behave like chickenpox/shingles and reactivate or pull some other shenanigans down the line? We say kids are largely okay, transmission vectors aside, but what about 1 year on? 10 years?
floral viper
5G High frequency radio waves man
strange barn
thinking about frozen tea can calm you
quick ledge
and do we even know if it can behave like chickenpox/shingles and reactivate or pull some other shenanigans down the line? We say kids are largely okay, transmission vectors aside, but what about 1 year on? 10 years?
@soft violet vaccines prolly
solid elbow
@empty prism on the flip side, turns out you don't get to enjoy most of the benefits of a city when there's a quarantine, so I'm currently paying way higher taxes with no quality of life benefits, heh
quick ledge
atleast covid will be less lethal
empty prism
I mean that's fair, I do get nice low rent and only have to deal with dummies every now and then
quick ledge
vaccines atleast provide extra immunity (if it doesnt provide 100% immunity)
floral viper
We don't know if someone can get it twice
@scenic blaze They have actually seen that the anti-bodies disappear after a few months
scenic blaze
Rip
soft violet
@quick ledge In terms of physiological effects of infection now which show impact later on, I mean.
strange barn
vaccines can also provide extra immunity (if it doesnt provide 100% immunity)
@quick ledge except if your immune system is weak
edit : frozen tea bags
floral viper
Which means yearly vaccines just like flu
quick ledge
yeah true
empty prism
Can we bet on a shingles-like outcome? That's where my money is
soft violet
Like who is to say that kids, fine now, won't all start stroking out a year down the track?
solid elbow
I highly doubt it is half. It would be receiving more media coverage.
I literally just pasted a news article that suggests it's about half, substantiating my claim. 🙂
empty prism
dude thinking about how controversial the flu vaccine is... actually nvm I don't wanna think about it
scenic blaze
Ugh, so
empty prism
frozen wages, much like frozen tea
scenic blaze
My mother owns an expensive apartment she's renting out to someone who's a jackass
He hasn't paid rent since janurary
empty prism
yikes
scenic blaze
and now due to covid he just gets to keep living there rentfree
red willow
you sure like frozen tea...
strange barn
yes
red willow
I don't even like regular tea
quick ledge
can frozen tea cure covid?
red willow
ask Trump...
strange barn
can frozen tea cure covid?
@quick ledge no i think not
scenic blaze
No, it's not bleach
empty prism
the rumor come out
quick ledge
lol
solid elbow
no, you're thinking of masks.
empty prism
masks cause covid though??????? big science at it again
floral viper
I think it was in the UK that some types of asthma medication lessens the symptoms of covid, which is nice
red willow
oh nice @floral viper
scenic blaze
I used to think all world leaders needed to be smarter than me
quick ledge
no, you're thinking of masks.
@solid elbow no thank you. masks prevent the natural aura of nature from entering my body
/s
empty prism
It's a good thing asthmatic americans aren't going to have a tougher time than usual getting medication 😄
scenic blaze
Now I think I'd just be happy with them being above one standard deviation below the average
solid elbow
the natural aura of nature contains germs, turns out.
soft violet
@floral viper Steroids. Antiinflammatory. Makes sense.
floral viper
It's a good thing asthmatic americans aren't going to have a tougher time than usual getting medication 😄
@empty prism I have already begun stocking up. It could be the case that all the meds get pulled to IC
solid elbow
The vaccine trials are showing worse results in obese individuals. So, RIP America.
floral viper
Without my asthma meds my lungs turn into the lungs of a 60+ chain smoker
empty prism
godspeed pucch, I hope you can keep your supplies up
scenic blaze
and anyone alive
red willow
everyone else will probably be fine
floral viper
@empty prism Ta mate 😄 I should be good for about a year
scenic blaze
I do not support herd immunity on this shit
This is pointless death
Avoidable death
soft violet
Wouldn't it be something if McDonalds ended up funding the working vaccine? McVaccinations. There's a thought.
scenic blaze
Just because people are idiots we should just all accept 5% death among everyone in the country?
red willow
it would be easily accessible then
quick ledge
imagine the calories
solid elbow
obese people need to lockdown
@red willow That's >40% of Americans.
red willow
well they should lose some weight 🤔
floral viper
Have anyone made any studies investigating links between obesity and covid in the US?
red willow
not sure what else to say
strange barn
my frozen tea bag spilled
quick ledge
serves you right
empty prism
now how did that happen
red willow
just try to make the best of a bad situation
scenic blaze
pucch, where's your control group 😛
quick ledge
for drinkng frozen tea
solid elbow
not sure what else to say
Maybe "everyone should lock down to avoid killing people they love"?
floral viper
@floral viper Canada? 😄
red willow
Canada = healthy Americans
scenic blaze
rofl
red willow
or something like that
strange barn
wait, my frozen tea bag opened, not spilled 🤣
soft violet
Pharmacologically immune suppressed due to an inflammatory disorder. Haven't left home this year but once for a blood test. Life is fun...
scenic blaze
I think that would involve us being friends with Canada
@soft violet Fiancee is immuno compromised, too
She just hides in her home
solid elbow
I'm obese. I'm not break-the-scale bad, but I'm 230 lbs at 5'10". I try to lose weight. It's hard. Eating healthy and exercising enough is harder than normal, what with the fact that there's a fucking pandemic happening and I'm living at work.
floral viper
@soft violet My condolences! The meds for taking the immune system down sucks so bad!
quick ledge
living at work?
soft violet
It's fine. I just have to take pills and stab myself every two weeks.
strange barn
ping me if you want to calm your mind and forget about covid stats stuff
empty prism
Sounds uh... not fun
red willow
luckily I'm allowed to work from home but it is definitely driving me bonkers
floral viper
You don't puke your stomach out from the pills?
solid elbow
@quick ledge yeah, I've heard it said that "working from home" is a misnomer, given how hard it is to disconnect completely at the end of the day, and that "living at work" is a better name for it.
floral viper
Mine make me nauseous for a few days after I taken em
empty prism
If there's one good thing to come out of this, it does mean my office will probably let me work remote if I move out of state
scenic blaze
That's... an interesting way to look at it
rustic spear
When you're at that weight, lowering your daily intake without any additional exercise should still give you results, no? @solid elbow
red willow
also the network drive is exceedingly slow
empty prism
Yeah but food good tho?
scenic blaze
Lowering daily intake without exercise gives results and decreases your productivity
empty prism
from personal experience
scenic blaze
Makes you all stabby
solid elbow
I lost a decent amount that way - I used to be heavier. I've hit a wall at what I seem to be able to lose by just eating carefully. Got down to 217 at one point by carefully monitoring my intake.
strange barn
frozen milk
empty prism
nother reason I wanna move to a place with a lot of bike trails, get me a bike and goout
frozen milk is heresy
scenic blaze
I'm probably the highest I've ever been atm, put on quite a bit of weight due to stress
empty prism
ice cream notwithstanding
scenic blaze
over covid and over unemployment (thank god one of those two is gone)
strange barn
frozen coffee
scenic blaze
(Here's a hint it's not covid)
strange barn
☕
solid elbow
beer is getting me. A pandemic is hard without the ability to dull your senses. 🙂
empty prism
lol
floral viper
nother reason I wanna move to a place with a lot of bike trails, get me a bike and goout
@empty prism Nature is the best for relaxation!
hazy void
Hi
scenic blaze
That's what weed is for but now I haven't been able to find my weed for days 😦
empty prism
for sure! I want more trails in general, ain't much around me now
and I wanna walk my dog on a trail
Hello!
floral viper
Me and SO is getting a kayak pretty soon. Gonna be nice be out on the lakes and rivers just chillin
red willow
trails are like nirvana to me
soft violet
@floral viper The first night of methotrexate was...eventful, in that I got out of bed to be ill and ended up coming to with my arse in the air and my face pressed into the carpet. My body adjusted. The diclofenac was a constant bad. Not on it now.
solid elbow
I've had such hit-or-miss experiences with weed that I mostly avoid it. I'll bum off friends but I don't feel comfortable passing a bowl these days, heh
empty prism
hell of a storytelling style you got there Opal
hazy void
Anyone knows how to solve th Rubik's cube
empty prism
I used to...
floral viper
@floral viper The first night of methotrexate was...eventful, in that I got out of bed to be ill and ended up coming to with my arse in the air and my face pressed into the carpet. My body adjusted. The diclofenac was a constant bad. Not on it now.
@soft violet Yeah methotrexate does that 😄 Shit is made from mustard gas believe it or not
quick ledge
used to solve
scenic blaze
Yes, there are people who know how to solve a rubik's cube
red willow
an actual Rubik's cube?
hazy void
No
solid elbow
I have a friend who's a speed cuber.
hazy void
A 3x3
red willow
a virtual one?
empty prism
probably one of the far better, cheaper alternatives
soft violet
@floral viper I did not know that.
red willow
might be tough to explain on here
scenic blaze
Code a virtual rubik's solver
quick ledge
ez
hazy void
a virtual one?
@red willow like, a puzzle with design of a Rubik's cube, can be any company
floral viper
@soft violet https://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2014/08/27/mustard-gas-from-the-great-war-to-frontline-chemotherapy/
empty prism
I call my program the sticker-remover
solid elbow
there's actually a simple algorithm for solving a rubik's cube. No configuration is more than... 31, I think? moves from solved.
hazy void
Code a virtual rubik's solver
@scenic blaze I wanna, but my laptop is dead, has to go for repair
red willow
how long have you been at it @hazy void ?
empty prism
f
hazy void
there's actually a simple algorithm for solving a rubik's cube. No configuration is more than... 31, I think? moves from solved.
@solid elbow 20
soft violet
@floral viper So it was the MTX and etanercept for a while, now it's MTX and adalimumab.
hazy void
how long have you been at it @hazy void ?
@red willow 1.5 months , sub 35 sec on 3x3
scenic blaze
I learned about bogosort the other day
red willow
oh wow
solid elbow
@hazy void thanks for the correction 🙂
scenic blaze
That's a fun algorithm to optimize
empty prism
"optimize"
scenic blaze
bogosort has the most impressive bestcase runtime I've ever seen
red willow
lots of perseverance there
empty prism
lol
hazy void
Or make a database of 43quintillion moves, then u don't need to solve, just give the solution
empty prism
man, don't make me get sucked into a sorting algorithm youtube rabbithole again
red willow
does Oracle handle 43 quintillion records?
empty prism
@hazy void you're reminding me of the dude at my work who tried to make a database table that mapped the distance of every ZIP code to every other ZIP code to get a 30 mile radius app thing to work...
scenic blaze
Just get a 4 dimensional database, ez
soft violet
@red willow If it doesn't, nesting. Boom. Solved.
red willow
may I borrow this quantum computer?
scenic blaze
and by that I mean a database that operates at different points along the timeline
hazy void
Also, the number of possible permutations on 6x6 cube, is more then the number of atoms in the world
10^80 atoms in the universe*
empty prism
my sister collects puzzle cubes, those things get weird
hazy void
I have a megaminx, a 3x3 dodecahedron
scenic blaze
number of atoms in the world versus the universe are two very different things
solid elbow
@empty prism and that's why everyone needs at least one DS&A course, heh
floral viper
Did you guys know that people got killed over dodecahedrons back in the day?
hazy void
Why did u spell ir wrong, nope
empty prism
@solid elbow no course in the world could help that dude. If not for my NDA, I would post some of his source code and we could all have a good cry
soft violet
Six squares are set.
lost frigate
I’m bored and only have my phone what can I do?
scenic blaze
Throw it up in the air, spin around, and catch it
empty prism
smut
scenic blaze
Then try it blindfolded
strange barn
my frozen tea bag truly spilled
solid elbow
Oh, have I seen some bad code...
lost frigate
No I have to be quiet rn
empty prism
gdi Bees get a hold of yourself!
lost frigate
I’m not supposed to be up
scenic blaze
I work with bad code everyday, this is my life and no, it's not mine
solid elbow
Did you guys know that people got killed over dodecahedrons back in the day?
@floral viper elaborate. (and also have you seen an https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icosahedron ?)
empty prism
read a book
red willow
meditate
lost frigate
I hate meditation
empty prism
read a book on the phone I mean, plenty o good apps for that
red willow
sounds like you aren't open to new adventures then.......
floral viper
@solid elbow I have not 😄 Seems like one of them dangerous geometries also though 😄
scenic blaze
go to sleep
soft violet
How are you on procrastination?
lost frigate
True I have a hardy boys book I could ready
I’ve tried meditation and it did nothing
solid elbow
It's the other regular 20-sided polyhedron 😄
red willow
maybe go to bed then
empty prism
the guy who wrote p much our entire codebase didn't know what a set was, so he used a lot of dictionaries with empty keys
scenic blaze
Eh, close enough
solid elbow
Nailed It!
scenic blaze
(empty values, I assume you meant)
empty prism
yeah, thems words and stuff
lost frigate
Like what is supposed to even happen when u meditate @red willow
rough sapphire
Hello!
solid elbow
(seriously the CPython implementation of set is a dict without values)
scenic blaze
^
floral viper
It always cracks me up that there was a cult of mathematicians in ancient greece that killed people over dodecahedrons and hid em away in a cave because it was considered "dangerous knowledge"
empty prism
the other fun thing is when he would set a boolean in a dictionary, but only do a membership test for the key when he needed to check it
soft violet
@lost frigate Monkey catching.
lost frigate
Lol
scenic blaze
This sounds like a creative person
empty prism
great vi hart video about pythagorkladsa whatever his name is
creative is a word for it...
scenic blaze
Making the most with his knowledge
solid elbow
pucch, that cult of Pythagoras's?
empty prism
which was indeed limited
floral viper
@solid elbow Yeah
empty prism
If I ever meet the dude I'mma stab him with a rust fork. So many headaches and lost hours...
lost frigate
Wtf
solid elbow
I knew they had some weird stuff, but the dodecahedron part is new to me.
scenic blaze
I know how you feel
empty prism
I think we all have one of those in a "professional" environment
floral viper
@solid elbow I remember it from one of the cosmos episodes I watched a few years ago. The one with Carl Sagan
solid elbow
Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code will be a violent psychopath who knows where you live.
empty prism
lol
lost frigate
Lol
floral viper
@solid elbow Lol Im a start using that
lost frigate
So never code
floral viper
Trying to get the junior devs to code properly
empty prism
^ tbh tho...
solid elbow
the biggest difference between academia and industry is adjusting for a world where you need to read other people's code, and vice versa
turns out that's a very different set of skills than just coding
empty prism
for sure
especially when people like to write comprehensions 4 layers deep just to flex on the rest of us
floral viper
In my experience the code need to be maintainable even after you have passed away also. As shown by the recent demand for cobol programmers from new jersey
solid elbow
"comprehension" and "layers" are words that shouldn't go together
quick ledge
godlygeek, what do you work as?
empty prism
you should meet my coworker lol
solid elbow
@floral viper who the government asked to work for free.
lost frigate
Imagine this
empty prism
imagine being a cobol programmer from the goodness of your heart...
floral viper
@solid elbow Cheapskates eh? 😄
lost frigate
There was a channel in the server where I could actually be useful
scenic blaze
Help channels make me feel like I'm bad at teaching
lost frigate
Lol
lost frigate
I just don’t know what I’m doing
empty prism
who really does
lost frigate
Lol