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gentle moss
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@rough sapphire that's when you ask me

pine vector
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our grocery store is out of Nutella rn. kiddo is unhappy... 😄

gentle moss
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Moon Safari by Air

chilly gorge
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it was portagal

rough sapphire
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@pine vector time to learn how to DIY Nutella

plucky ridge
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I know, it was a dumb joke

rough sapphire
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@gentle moss what do you think of pocket symphony?

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You just need some fat, preferably food grade, cocoa, haselnut aroma and an emulgator

pine vector
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i'm not even sure if i could find some hazlenuss! would be easier to just order some Nutella. hehe

rough sapphire
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Don't forget to add tons of sugar

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@pine vector Usually it's stocked in the baking section

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I wouldn't get actual nuts, just aroma

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Otherwise it's going to be a bit crunchy

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But that can be a nice thing, but it would be different from normal nutella

plucky ridge
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Depends

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If you have a coffee grinder and you make it incredibly fine..

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Or a mortar and pestle

rough sapphire
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I wonder how they get the hazlenut into the Nutella in the first place

plucky ridge
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Powdered

lofty dirge
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Let's take bets if all enterprise tools at company are working today

rough sapphire
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@plucky ridge Your coffee is going to taste of hazlenut!

gentle moss
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tbh i quite enjoy Air's albums

plucky ridge
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@rough sapphire Which is the best

sand goblet
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to be fair I don't know all that many people that use a coffee grinder to grind coffee

plucky ridge
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Hazelnut coffee is friggin' amazing.

rough sapphire
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@sand goblet I do, but I used to go by the nickname KaffeeJunky

plucky ridge
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I do

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My brother does as well

rough sapphire
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Which is supposed to mean CoffeeAddict

sand goblet
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Most people over here don't bother

rough sapphire
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Freshly ground is the only way!

sand goblet
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I mean it's not like everyone drinks instant here either, but

plucky ridge
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It really just depends on how much you like coffee as opposed to just need it for the caffeine

rough sapphire
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Everyone who doesn't do that is a coffee heretic!

sand goblet
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We use a pod centrifuge, haha

pine vector
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i've entered the Kuerig realm. too much work in the states to get coffee that's worth it.

rough sapphire
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pods, the most wasteful thing invented

plucky ridge
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So bad for the environment

rough sapphire
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Hope not the aluminum ones

sand goblet
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ours recyle!

rough sapphire
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Oh well, that makes it slightly better

sand goblet
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it's a specialised recycling service provided by the coffee company

pine vector
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immediately hands over pitch forks and fire for his roasting...

sand goblet
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they give you a bag and then they pick them up when you get your next delivery

rough sapphire
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at my old job they had a coffee machine subscription

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i had to buy the beans from aldi though

plucky ridge
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I'd be okay with that

rough sapphire
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it was really good coffee

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and the water in the area was really soft

plucky ridge
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Honestly, the best coffee brand I've ever had has been Eight o' Clock

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Specifically the Dark Espresso Roast

rough sapphire
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long life weird flavour stuff

plucky ridge
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GOD that stuff is smooth

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I've never had a dark roast that didn't feel like it was kicking you in the teeth, but this..

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It's just pure flavor, none of the harshness

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Huh.

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ReasonML looks rather interesting

rough sapphire
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@gentle moss so Air is alright, but it's not clicking with me today :<

plucky ridge
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And it might scratch my FP itch

gentle moss
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what kind of thing are you after?

rough sapphire
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

gentle moss
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maybe i have a thing in my brain pan

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heavy? electronic? vocal?

pine vector
rough sapphire
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i guess not heavy, i listened to gojira earlier and wasn't feeling it

plucky ridge
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I keep hearing about it but I question if it's GOOD or if it's just hype

pine vector
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oh wait. you get jitters, right?

plucky ridge
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I do

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But typically only with my meds

pine vector
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it is good. sommersoft approved at least. it super caffeinated, so...

gentle moss
plucky ridge
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Yeah I'd probably avoid it, personally

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I'm trying to limit caffeine intake anyhow

pine vector
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then yeah, forget i was here.

plucky ridge
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Never ❤️

pine vector
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aww. ❤️

rough sapphire
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@gentle moss better direction i think, definitely not in the mood for dnb or any -step

plucky ridge
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Two-step

rough sapphire
gentle moss
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hmmmmmm

pine vector
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go with some old school vocal house. Armand Van Helden, Mark Farina, etc...

gentle moss
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i was actually about to start throwing out vocal trance

rough sapphire
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i don't think i've heard this song in ages

gentle moss
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the later vocal trances ended up getting housey anyway

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the tiesto remix (i think) is a pretty good one

rough sapphire
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nothing wrong with house though

gentle moss
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definitely not

pine vector
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there's always Oakenfold... 😄

gentle moss
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Armin Van Buuren

pine vector
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that's about the closest i ever really got to trance.

gentle moss
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Above and Beyond

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Deep Dish is housier

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Gabriel and Dresden

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Paul van Dyk

pine vector
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oh yeah. van Dyk; liked his stuff too.

gentle moss
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nothing but you was a class track.

gentle moss
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Robert Miles

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Sash!

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oh, Dash Berlin

rough sapphire
gentle moss
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this sounds kinda pretty.

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oooooooh

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you should try the Oceanlab album

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Sirens of the Sea

rough sapphire
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that's a proper throwback

gentle moss
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ahhh... my trance phase

pine vector
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if you like the spacey stuff, Odesza?

rough sapphire
pine vector
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i'm more on the breaks side of life...

rough sapphire
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Odesza are great, i really wanna see their live show one day

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but i'm not in the mood for them right now

pine vector
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Oblivion soundtrack/M83? i'm really just throwing darts at a dart board here. 😄

rough sapphire
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haha

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that singer on the oblivion soundtrack

gentle moss
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hmmmm

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mj cole?

pine vector
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i generally dislike Tom Cruise, but that movie was awesome in a lot of ways. to include the OST.

rough sapphire
rough sapphire
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i posted a issue there once

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but i deleted the issue from that repository

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it's not my repository and i didn't fork or star it

solid pollen
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I don't think it is possible

rough sapphire
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Why not? :/

royal laurel
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Well

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After a week

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Deer mod is complete

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I just need to alter the texture, but yeet

sand goblet
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Good work \o/

surreal otter
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I thought Reddit was bad...

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Facebook is worse

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I jsut got in trouble with facebook over a post from 2019...

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Calling otu Tucker Carlson for his racism on Fox

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and sayign that White Supremacy is a hoax

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What the actual fuck Facebook

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Do you SUPPORT racism?

rough sapphire
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Well, the issue is probably that it contains symbols of certain organisations

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this stuff is automated

surreal otter
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And it contains a signature, and is a political cartoon

rough sapphire
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Also, some people might miss the message

surreal otter
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If they miss the message on my PRIVATE 60 friend page

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I only post to friends

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who are IRL friends

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and mostly I exclusively post political stuff liek this

rough sapphire
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They still autoban for certain symbols though

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probably got flagged for the swastika or the clansmen symbol

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yeah, if you challenged the claim they'd probaly unblock you

surreal otter
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How do I challenge it?

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Looking at the page

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Lovely

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Twitter it is

sand goblet
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it has someone's name on it, thereby implying that they're a klansman

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could be considered defamation I expect

surreal otter
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Tucker Carlson?

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The TV host?

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It's a political cartoon, I didn't draw it, I shared it

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last August

sand goblet
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nobody said you drew it

rough sapphire
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@sand goblet doesn't the US have laws that protect satire to an extent?

sand goblet
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that's kind of irrelevant on a platform like this really

rough sapphire
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This would likely be covered by artistic freedom and freedom of speech even in Germany

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yeah its a private company

sand goblet
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well it's not so much the private company argument

rough sapphire
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Oh

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if he registered a domain, and then posted, nothing you could do

sand goblet
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facebook has more laws to comply with than just the US laws

surreal otter
rough sapphire
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Yeah, their TOS is also probably more limiting

sand goblet
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I expect that it would have been allowable if it didn't have names in it

surreal otter
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Straight from their Standards

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I'm sorry, he did

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So libel, no falseness to it

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Tucker Carlson is aw hite supremacist and I posted a political cartoon calling him out on it last year

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Facebook just found out and got mad today

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I don't get it

sand goblet
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Nah, facebook didn't find out

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someone reported it

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also, not all white supremacists are klansmembers, even if you were somehow able to conclusively prove that he was

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I hate fox as much as the next guy, but facebook has to be careful

surreal otter
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It's a political cartoon

sand goblet
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it's a point that could have been made without singling out a specific person

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tbh without the names anyone familiar with the situation would still know what you're referring to

surreal otter
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I could make a point that Tucker Carlson is awhite supremacist without pointing to an individual?

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nvm

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sorry for the itnerruption

sand goblet
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it's a tricky line to walk

rough sapphire
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I wonder how much longer it'll be till the US will be called a failed state

surreal otter
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I'd call it

rough sapphire
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or if there's still a chance to turn things around

surreal otter
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I sure do hopeso

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but I have my doubts

sand goblet
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to be fair, most of europe feels that way about it

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at least in some respects

surreal otter
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Anyways, Facebook is shielded from me posting lies

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legally speaking

sand goblet
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not if the so-called EARN IT act comes to pass

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america's been trying to remove safe harbour protections for years

surreal otter
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Well, America loves to hate Americans. Sad reality of living here.

sand goblet
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yup, you're not wrong

lofty dirge
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We are not a failed state. We are exactly in the state we want to be. Great corporatist state.

surreal otter
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not even good at that

sand goblet
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Depends who "we" is

surreal otter
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failing infrastructure will break the economy

lofty dirge
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Dominos will fix it

surreal otter
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The one thing that does give me hope though

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Is the protests, they've ereached my town

lofty dirge
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We being me as American

surreal otter
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we had a showing of over 500 in a small white town

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in a reddish county

lofty dirge
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What part of America?

surreal otter
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PA

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doesn't matter

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every state

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there's protests

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many countries

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I can't wait until countries outnumber the states

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It's a global movement, it's a human issue

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transcends national bordewrs

lofty dirge
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Sure but from what I’m seeing is it’s white liberals who want to do “something” unless that something threatens their way of life then nooooooopppppeeeee

surreal otter
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Is that so?

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From what I'm seeing people are defunding police and enacting police accountability

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Police officers are resigning

lofty dirge
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See if school district wants to bus in minorities and watch those same people come out to protest.

surreal otter
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TBH bussing isn't the solution, technology is. Why should one set of bussed students get better than their neighbors?

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We need to invest in national materials

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devices for everyone, ensure a solid curriculum for all

lofty dirge
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We are too big for national solutions besides funding

surreal otter
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We need to reinvent education in America

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What?

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Udemy? CodeAcademy? Khan?

sullen thorn
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Why are you too big for national solutions?

surreal otter
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What are they too small for?

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Who can Udemy not teach?

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Mix in one on one teacher interactions

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specialized in person teaching for those who need it

meager ledge
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will never happen :/

surreal otter
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I know

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but it NEEDS to happen

meager ledge
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most kids cant use the internet for sht

surreal otter
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...

meager ledge
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couldnt find information if their life depended on it

surreal otter
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my 4 and 6 year olds had their seesaw homework done before I woke up today

sullen thorn
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Using the Internet isn’t free tho

meager ledge
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my 4 and 6 year olds had their seesaw homework done before I woke up today
@surreal otter sure, yours but look at kids in the south

surreal otter
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Tell me kids can't use the itnernet

meager ledge
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they cnat

surreal otter
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my 2 year old navigated from every fucking help menu in every app to yourtube

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on our phones

meager ledge
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only for gaming and youtube lol

surreal otter
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as we'd block youtube repeatedly

lofty dirge
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Federal government can’t fix community problems. Please pay attention to your local council

surreal otter
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only to find her back in it

pine vector
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primary school is more than academics though...

surreal otter
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well, 6 year old when she was 2?

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Please pay attention to your local council I want to fix America

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Not my small white town

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our education is quite alright

meager ledge
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yeah but its youtube, now ask her to find a solution on how to iterate over a list in python

surreal otter
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the school gave me 2 ipads

rough sapphire
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@surreal otter The issue is kids that don't get support from their parents

surreal otter
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I return one tomorrow, the other at the end of next school year

rough sapphire
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Without parents that actually care about their children, they won't just magically develop these skills

meager ledge
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if us switches to khan kids will rely more on the internet, when they dont know how to google

surreal otter
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Maybe we shouldn't jail parents so readily

rough sapphire
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unless someone teaches them the basics required to use the internet to inform themselves

surreal otter
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or split them from their children over misdemeanors.

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if only someone invested in society, call it like...socialism or something and run ya out of town

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no no no, we need more money for police, it's not safe

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CAGE THE ANIMALS, BUILDS MORE CAGES, LESS SCHOOLS

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That's the rhetoric that got us here

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Education, not incarceration

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A smarter America is a better America

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The ROI on social services is much higher than the uh...can't even call it ROI on incarceration, as recidivism in America is on another level

rough sapphire
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You forget that large companies need working drones they can exploit

leaden shuttle
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I am a drone

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a NPC even

surreal otter
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Prison labor violates the 13th amendment, prove me wrong

rough sapphire
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Isn't there an exception for inmates?

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unfortunately yes

edgy raft
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yea there is,

rough sapphire
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Anyways, I really hope the US and other places can change.

surreal otter
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AMENDMENT XIII
SECTION 1
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

SECTION 2
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
rough sapphire
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I just have very little hope for humanity as a whole

surreal otter
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No

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As punishment for crime

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not during punishment

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the punishment is time, not labor

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except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted

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Unless the sentence is labor, it is unconstitutional

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Now find me where a sentence includes labor?

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community service

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would be an example of legal slave labor

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forcing people to work for free

rough sapphire
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so they tried to stop indited labor

surreal otter
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Doesn't matter

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there is no justice in america

rough sapphire
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In the end it depends on how judiciary interprets the law

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right now case law makes it legal (obligitory not a lawyer)

surreal otter
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Of course it does

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why wouldn't iot

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There's $$$ to be made, this is America

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make that money

rough sapphire
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law doesn't operate on entirely logical principles

surreal otter
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tomatoes are vegetables for tax purposes and per the supreme court

rough sapphire
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It's tied to interpretation by judges

surreal otter
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But botanically? Per the science? Fruits

rough sapphire
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i mean I'm not against offering prisoners labor, and paying them minimum wage

surreal otter
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and paying them minimum wage maybe, if not more. Depending on the labor

rough sapphire
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like learning a trade

surreal otter
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if they create value

rough sapphire
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In Germany you can even get an apprenticeship in prison and learn a new trade

surreal otter
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they should get a fair portion, held in trust.

rough sapphire
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exactly like that

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So you're prepared to be a member of society again after you leave

edgy raft
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oh yeah, pay minimum wage to prisoners, not like that would drive everyone else's taxes up

surreal otter
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and that trust should help them spend it properly the first year or 2 after release

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to ensure a proper re-entering into society

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Teach people to be good, not criminals, all American jails do

rough sapphire
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You could always tax the rich

sand goblet
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If only the point of prison in the US was rehabilitation

rough sapphire
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but they tend to run from taxes

surreal otter
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I wish

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I wish

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If only it were an option

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Too many Americans think too far ahead to never, when they themselves will be billionaires and have to pay additional tax

rough sapphire
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well teaching prisoners a trade, with a certificate, would help them increase they're chance of getting a job on the outside.

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also yes tax the rich

edgy raft
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Taxing the rich shouldn't be a solution for everything

surreal otter
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It's not

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It's an injustice that's been going far too long

edgy raft
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it could hurt the growth of their buissness

surreal otter
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The taxes are FAR too low for people who make the most

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Aww, their business

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Fuck their business

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Make a better business

edgy raft
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Oh cool, how are you gonna make a new amazon if it collapses?

surreal otter
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If it's not profitable in a fair world, it's not viable in a fair world

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lol?

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Are you serious?

edgy raft
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competing with 2000 other new companies

surreal otter
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The market would EXPLODE

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if amazon fell

edgy raft
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Its an extreme example but yeah

surreal otter
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It would be a windfall for countless

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Amazon failing would be AMAZING.

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AWS would probably spin off

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those data centers aren't just getting shut down

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Far too much $$ in those rooms

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Small businesses?

rough sapphire
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AWS is hella expensive, amazon is rediculas

surreal otter
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Especially after COVID?

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It would help tremendously to borrow a word from the carrot

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Will there be an after COVID?

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Or will it mutate in time for COVID-20

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😩 😫

rough sapphire
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you know, when they cap the worker safety laws around covid at 300 people because "the big companies will do it anyway"

surreal otter
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Yep.

rough sapphire
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There will probably be a vaccine next year, I sure hope there'll be efforts to prevent money grabbing though.

surreal otter
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They always protect big businesses

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There will be money grabbing

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It's the American way!

rough sapphire
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But there should be more than one vaccine available by then

surreal otter
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I actually did a 'interview' today for political work

rough sapphire
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but still, it's likely going to be pretty expensive

surreal otter
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Fire the President

rough sapphire
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nice ninja edit

surreal otter
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It was neat, used an app to video answer 8 questions

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Sometimes I forget where I am

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I try to remain civil here

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Or just leave it be

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Though it seems to be a more European crowd here that doesn't mind the honest opinions of America from an American

rough sapphire
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Well the kavanaugh causa shows that at least the institutions of the US do not care about such things

surreal otter
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Watching Black Lightning on Netflix

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First episode of Season 2...

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Too real

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no holds barred off the bat

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Aired October 9 2018

rough sapphire
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this administration might as well say that the first amendment doesn't exist

surreal otter
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It doesn't

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The police are not accountable

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they cover their badges with black tape

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they cover hteir faces with masks

rough sapphire
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or you know shoot journalists eyes out

surreal otter
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who's gonna arrest the bad cops when all the cops are bad?

rough sapphire
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the FBI

surreal otter
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Under the direction of Trump?

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lol;

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I love when they call a bad cop a bad apple

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Really shows their ignorance

rough sapphire
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yep

surreal otter
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a bad apple spoils the bunch, so you throw it out. Not defend it tirelessly until you have a barrel of rot

rough sapphire
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you know, delta makes an effort that they don't have "bad apples"

surreal otter
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which we're past the point of. Now it's a sludge that they keep throwing these green recruits into that immediately take to the corruption

rough sapphire
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so when planes start falling out of the sky, do we say "just a few bad apples"

surreal otter
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Why do the trolls attack the Python discord?

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I just don't get it, but Trolls are not meant to be gotten I guess

rough sapphire
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its public and big

surreal otter
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Discord needs better tools

plucky ridge
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It's because we're on the discovery page

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Just makes us a bigger target. Nothing our staff can't handle

rough sapphire
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I found it on the discovery page

plucky ridge
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Oh good, so it is working

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I've really been unsure whether we're getting people who want to stay and learn from there

rough sapphire
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also people might know of python from school or whatever, and then click on it

pine vector
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double-edge sword. we're seeing it too over on the Adafruit server.

rough sapphire
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honestly though, im here for the off topic chat

plucky ridge
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Makes me wonder if we're spilling over to you guys, sommer

rough sapphire
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Got here through the discovery page as well

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i can code, but ruby is my jam

plucky ridge
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Like they join your server from the partners page or something

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@rough sapphire Fair

pine vector
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Hem, i had the thought. could be a mutual-server/partner lookup.

rough sapphire
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Ruby is a weird beast

plucky ridge
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Agreed. I've tried to wrap my head around Ruby but it just feels so different

rough sapphire
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yeah you can do something like 5 different ways

plucky ridge
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Not bad mind you, just different

rough sapphire
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It's nice to use and all

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but the implementation is a mystery

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and sometimes you have no other choice but a crazy one liner to do the thing you want

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and rails is a security nightmare xD

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but I don't know if ruby is actually to blame for this

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or it used to be

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should use past tense when I've not been doing webdev for years

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idk it seems a like all the stuff stored in memory could be an issue

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or maybe it's just a matter of rails being popular

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so it's a valuable target for black hats

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could be both

plucky ridge
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Interpreted languages always tend to be easier targets

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I think

rough sapphire
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if both are written perfectly i think so

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but if memory is handled wrong in a compiled language than that would be worse i think

plucky ridge
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True

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I might just be thinking of it as a more immediate attack vector. Like changing the code on the fly or something

rough sapphire
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yeah that too maybe

surreal otter
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Success

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Called em out on Twitter after they denied me in Facebook

rough sapphire
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Congratulations on getting that resolved

plucky ridge
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I'm not sure I even want to know

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What could have had them pull it to begin with

rough sapphire
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well, facebook redactors are overworked and have terrible working conditions

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ai is supposed to support them, but I don't know how much of that ever became real

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according to some reports, not much

plucky ridge
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AI can only do so much

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Especially in such turbulent times. Everything must look like it needs to be pulled

surreal otter
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I know they're busy

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but again, they should run images against databases

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I can probably find that one all over

plucky ridge
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What even was it?

surreal otter
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so I jsut share the work of others

plucky ridge
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I think we can remove it now, point gotten

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I mean I can certainly see how that would be inflammatory

surreal otter
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But nothing out of line for Facebook

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and to get in trouble for it today?

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For being vehemently anti-racist?

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Maybe 10 months ago sure

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When I posted it

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if the bots are scanning, scan

plucky ridge
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Unless something gets flagged to hell, it goes to the bottom of the stack

surreal otter
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It's a private post

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to my ~60 friends

#

I don't post publicly, I don't friend people I'm not actually close to

#

I hate facebook

plucky ridge
#

Right, and I'm saying that there may literally be that many images that are being sifted through

#

And ones that aren't flagged aren't bothered with.

surreal otter
#

10 month backlog to me sounds like they're not trying hard enough

plucky ridge
#

And the AI/bot/whatever was likely looking for symbols

#

Dude

surreal otter
#

They have billions

#

don't say it's expensive

plucky ridge
#

You do realize it's a platform of bill- yeah exactly

#

I'm not saying expensive

surreal otter
#

money hand over fist

plucky ridge
#

Time consuming

surreal otter
#

For bots to analyze images in realtime as they're uploaded?

#

let's not pretend FB can't handle the bandwidth

plucky ridge
#

You're assuming that they had it in place at that point

#

And using that logic, yeah, pretty dumb

#

But if they didn't, and they're scanning backlogs now?

#

Starts to make sense

surreal otter
#

Then they need to do a better job

plucky ridge
#

Well no shit

surreal otter
#

I manage my wife's FB business page

plucky ridge
#

They've been told that plenty of times. But honestly, it's a moot point

#

People choose to use the platform

#

They won

upper moat
#

Whats this thread about

#

??

plucky ridge
#

Facebook being dumb

#

Pretty much the long and the short of it

surreal otter
#

Only recently actually because all the shitty posting was causing her anxiety, and she didn't wanna lose her page so she handed me control

#

week or two ago

plucky ridge
#

I stopped looking at mind years ago

#

Even before all this Trump nonsense

surreal otter
#

I use it for political comms

plucky ridge
#

It's too stressful in general

surreal otter
#

and Python

#

And photography

#

PPP

#

neato

plucky ridge
#

Figure I'm not doing myself any favors by intentionally putting myself in a place that makes me miserable

rough sapphire
#

I should probably stop using twitter

surreal otter
#

I just started

#

using my Twitter account

plucky ridge
#

I've been on since high school

rough sapphire
#

I get way too much police violence related tweets and it's a trigger for me

surreal otter
#

Oh, don't go to Reddit

wooden silo
#

Reddit is kind of nice in this sense, ironically.

plucky ridge
#

Encapsulated communities

rough sapphire
#

Reddit is a mixed bag

wooden silo
#

Because you can control which subreddits you subscribe to.

plucky ridge
#

But it does have the echo chamber effect

surreal otter
#

I would highly recommend NOT reddit if you don't want police stuff

#

Find me a sub that doesn't have something about the protests

wooden silo
#

Some suck, but a lot are fairly nice and civilized.

plucky ridge
#

@surreal otter Again, depends on which sub

rough sapphire
#

same issue with most social media platforms

surreal otter
#

Even wholesomememes will have something like "Cop protects people from cops"

plucky ridge
#

Sure, but r/cats likely won't

rough sapphire
#

@wooden silo it's annoying how long they take to remove hate groups

surreal otter
#

Uplifting news is just depressing shit with a spin

#

child raises money to pay medical bills for other child with cancer

#

where's the government

#

where are the parents?

plucky ridge
#

Again

#

Cats

surreal otter
#

Who cares, children pay for other children's cancer treatment in america

wooden silo
#

@rough sapphire I'm not talking about the company. I'm talking about how anxiety-inducing it is to use it compared to other social media platforms.

surreal otter
#

Oh, I'm sure a feral cat got caught in tear gas

#

on cam

plucky ridge
#

-sighs-

#

I just want to enjoy a cute thing

wooden silo
#

But yes, the company has a problematic history.

surreal otter
#

maybe r/marijuanaenthusiasts

#

I think the issue with Facebook is you KNOW the people

rough sapphire
#

reddit is a very mixed bag

royal laurel
#

you can mute words and topics on twitter

surreal otter
#

Twitter and Reddit you have no idea who you're talking to

plucky ridge
#

Sure but it's hard to be mad at it. You choose to be on those platforms

surreal otter
#

I mean, verified accounts exist

plucky ridge
#

"I don't like being in this room with fire in it, there's too much fire!"

#

Just don't go

surreal otter
#

Again, my concern with FB was a bot that said I was bad and a bot that said no resolution

rough sapphire
#

I probably just don't follow the right accounts for it to be wholesome

#

haha

surreal otter
#

Don't stop anti-racist speech in the name of stomping out bigotry

plucky ridge
#

Dude

#

You got it repealed

#

The process worked

#

Like what else do you want

wooden silo
#

I don't think it needs to be completely 100% free from any kind of content that could in any way be interpreted as negative for it not to be anxiety-inducing.

surreal otter
#

I tweeted...

rough sapphire
#

kindov

plucky ridge
#

There's going to be some false positives

surreal otter
#

My claim was denied, then I tweeted baout it

rough sapphire
#

you shouldn't need to tweet to repeal

#

@plucky ridge a badge?

#

there should be a repeal button

wooden silo
#

I just don't want to be spammed with depressing shit.

plucky ridge
#

And? If someone gets banned here they can email us for an appeal

surreal otter
#

then it was fixed

plucky ridge
#

Same dealio

surreal otter
#

Nevermind

plucky ridge
#

I just wanted to say dealio

surreal otter
#

That's my primary issue

#

Why do I go to twitter for FB support?

rough sapphire
#

it says right there

plucky ridge
#

The same reason the rest of us go to Twitter for shit tons of support

surreal otter
#

because Twitter is awesome for getting people to listen

plucky ridge
#

It's typically faster than most standard support methods

surreal otter
#

I guess more the amplification effect it has

rough sapphire
#

On AcCcOunt oF tHE CorONaViRuS

surreal otter
#

goes through the marketing team

plucky ridge
#

I don't know if listen is the right word

#

Hear yes, listen maybe

surreal otter
#

I Forgot, working from home is not a perfect job for Facebook censors

#

Can't like, do it from a computer or anything

#

They normally sit together in a circle watching photos print before debating if they're acceptable

plucky ridge
#

You do realize that you're going through hundreds of thousands of pictures, articles, etc. a day, right?

surreal otter
#

at a computer?

honest star
#

just because it's twitter doesn't mean it goes through the marketing team. They most definitely have a funnel for support items that bypass marketing completely.

plucky ridge
#

If you genuinely think it's a committee doing this one at a time, I think you're mistaken.

surreal otter
#

I know it's not

plucky ridge
#

These are in general, over worked, underpaid folks

surreal otter
#

It's a bunch of individuals in a massive building

rough sapphire
#

it's individual mods

surreal otter
#

all on their own computers

#

underpaid, overworked, overstressed by the horrors they see

rough sapphire
#

they get little education on what violates community guidlines etc

plucky ridge
#

Stressed out of their mind for all the crap they have to deal with yeah

rough sapphire
#

and then they're thrown into the cold water

surreal otter
#

And now they have no job

#

because Facebook won't let the mwork from home

rough sapphire
#

@surreal otter listen to hemlock, they are literally a mod on a large internet forum

surreal otter
#

Not authoritarian here 🙂

rough sapphire
#

They look at the worst stuff you can see on the internet every day

plucky ridge
#

You say that because you haven't been banned

surreal otter
#

Until we determine the conversation is getting heated, I stand by my opinions

rough sapphire
#

have to remain silent about their job

tight meadow
#

Now Now, let's stay civil

rough sapphire
#

no but my point is they have some experience

surreal otter
#

well, by we I mean he

plucky ridge
#

I'm good

#

Tired mainly

surreal otter
#

what time is it?

sand goblet
#

Adventure time!

plucky ridge
#

1 pm, but it's a lot of sitting and waiting for files to process right now

sand goblet
#

Sorry. :>

surreal otter
#

Ah, midday slump

tight meadow
#

no that was good

surreal otter
#

COFFEE!

#

I always loved the afternoon coffee when I had a job

#

speaking of which

plucky ridge
#

I might.

sand goblet
#

Still working on that database?

surreal otter
#

gonna make a coffee

plucky ridge
#

Yep

#

Probably going to be for the rest of the week and possibly a little into next, depending on how long this takes me to do the ones by hand

#

And also getting people to move the passworded stuff that I can't

rough sapphire
#

use shuf it can process a 78 billion line text file

plucky ridge
#

It's a specific Document Management System

#

My options are super limited

rough sapphire
#

yeah i know, shuf was a meme for a bit

sand goblet
#

Have you guys worked with miramo, hemlock?

plucky ridge
#

Doesn't sound familiar

sand goblet
#

Fair, it's a document processing server

#

I know the people that wrote it but I have no idea how far it reaches

plucky ridge
#

Ah, I getcha. To my knowledge this is all through Lacerte and whatever backend they decided to use for DMS

#

I can tell you this, they probably went with the lowest bidder

rough sapphire
#

i know that too well

sand goblet
#

Wouldn't be the first, I suppose

rough sapphire
#

am the lowest bidder

#

will make IT system for parts+$10&lunch

plucky ridge
#

The issue is that it's an old program

#

They originally planed on killing it back in 2014, swap it for a different service called Smart Vault

#

Except SmartVault was subscription based, far less intuitive, and had a limited number of seats

#

There was a HUGE backlash so they decided to support DMS again not long after. But it's been band-aid fixes

#

Little stuff here and there

#

The core issues with it (the engine it uses) will likely never be fixed because there's no money in it for them

rough sapphire
#

yeah that sounds about right

#

be lucky it isn't written in COBOL i guess

plucky ridge
#

Why? COBOL works

#

It's hard to kill, that's why it's still around

rough sapphire
#

Yeah, what's wrong with COBOL?

plucky ridge
#

If it sucked it would have been replaced already

rough sapphire
#

well it kindov has

plucky ridge
#

It's HIGHLY unpleasant to write, but the programs it creates are strong

rough sapphire
#

when was the last time a program was written, from scratch, to do a new thing in COBOL

plucky ridge
#

Sure, but we're talking about existing systems.

#

It's the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" philosophy

rough sapphire
#

yeah ok thats true

plucky ridge
#

In fact a lot of places NEED COBOL coders so that they can either update, transfer, or completely switch code bases

#

And a lot of the old guard are retiring

rough sapphire
#

but there aren't many cobol programmers around anymore, lots of states are having problems now because they don't have enough people to maintain the code

plucky ridge
#

Yep

#

Which is terrifying, since it's primarily in government, financial and insurance

rough sapphire
#

yep

#

to the rescue

#

I just like the name, but I heared they offer good services.

#

new jersey is looking for COBOL programmers for their unemployments system

plucky ridge
#

I just worry what they'll migrate to

#

They'll want something similar to the old COBOL systems, i.e. something they can just set and forget

#

There'll be little desire to have someone maintaining it

rough sapphire
#

knowing government they'd migrate to scratch

plucky ridge
#

In fairness, nothing wrong with that

#

Still compiles to a working program

#

I know Scratch gets a lot of flak since it uses blocks but it does the job

rough sapphire
#

i think its java script basically

#

its also annoying because it lacks things like booleans

plucky ridge
#

That's what 1's and 0's are for

rough sapphire
#

yeah but imagine how the code would break if you pulled the wrong orange block somewhere, and it gets set to 2

plucky ridge
#

Same thing could be said about setting the wrong variable or a typo in a class name

rough sapphire
#

thats true

#

Please tell me that scratch isn't used in production anywhere

#

I want to be able to sleep at night

plucky ridge
#

Oh no, I doubt it

rough sapphire
#

😱

#

i guess my biggest gripe with scratch is that it takes so long to write

plucky ridge
#

But I think it's unfair to call the language out I guess

rough sapphire
#

😵

plucky ridge
#

It's a learning tool

#

Same with BASIC

rough sapphire
#

true

plucky ridge
#

And I feel like BASIC deserves more flak

rough sapphire
#

It should be used for that and nothing else really

#

yeah

plucky ridge
#

Yep yep, agreed

#

But you could

#

And it would work

#

Maintaining it would suck ass

rough sapphire
#

i know

#

its made in javascript so maybe you could compile to javascript

red prism
#

hello help me have problems

plucky ridge
#

Sounds likely. So if nothing else, it could get a project started. @red prism What's your problem/question?

red prism
#

I need to solve a problem with python but I don’t know who
to ask

plucky ridge
#

If it's a problem with your code then it would likely be best to use our help system. For details, see the #❓|how-to-get-help channel

sullen thorn
#

@rough sapphire i’m not joking when I say you’ve made me realise that I think scratch solves an issue i’ve had (what language to choose for a certain thing)

rough sapphire
#

Really?

#

Also nice timing, I just returned to the keyboard

sullen thorn
#

Would be nice to have something that people who don’t know how to code can use 🙂

#

Have a bot, and want people to be able to create their own custom commands and it has 2 requirements - be safe, and be usable by people who don’t know how to code

plucky ridge
#

Oh yeah, Scratch is ideal for that

rough sapphire
#

If you want to teach kids around 12-16 I think lego mindstorm might be a better option if funds are available

plucky ridge
#

^

#

I used to play with those when I was a youngin'

sullen thorn
#

Oh this isn’t about teaching ppl

plucky ridge
#

Kind of surprising how long they've been around

rough sapphire
#

My older sister had the mindstorms kit and we played tons with it

#

Well, there's this book called python for kids

sullen thorn
#

Ugh but they can do things with python :/ and then idk how to check the code won’t break stuff

plucky ridge
#

How would you have them give you the command?

#

And would it be temporary or stored forever?

rough sapphire
#

yeah lock them inside a container

sullen thorn
#

Stored indefinitely

#

Was thinking provide them with a limited set of building blocks 🙂

#

(And like a stack depth limit)

#

Can you make custom blocks for scratch?

rough sapphire
#

an IRC friend of mine made an opensource scratch

#

that should be customizable

sullen thorn
#

Link?

rough sapphire
#

let me see if I can find it

#

his page is a mess <.<

sullen thorn
#

What page?

rough sapphire
#

wait

sullen thorn
#

Wow second time i’ve seen maths from scratch

#

But the last guy was trying to implement it with machine learning in c

#

So I think his js version might be more successful

rough sapphire
#

I could just log on IRC and ask him if the source code is still available

#

oh wait, not during this time of the day, it's in the middle of the night in japan

sullen thorn
#

Why doesn’t he have github?

rough sapphire
#

He does, but strangely it's not on there

sullen thorn
#

😦

rough sapphire
#

I thought it used to be there

#

maybe he abandoned the project, don't know

#

Oh, his 3dpl project page looks really nice, but that's a project for kids that are ready to write code

#

It's based on unity3d js, so the performance is not the best though

#

but honestly though, most kids could understand python

#

the code wouldn't be efficient or pretty

#

I think the visual aid that something like scratch provides might be needed for some kids to grasp the concepts

#

kids have very different levels of abstract thinking really

#

yeah but for like anything above a 5th grade level just use python

#

some develop sooner some later

#

typing the syntax is sooooo much faster than pulling out blocks from a list

#

I think scratch also lets you type to select blocks

#

it's been a while since I touched that

#

let me check

#

it actually was part of some online course I took a few years ago to revisit the foundations of programming

sullen thorn
#

How come your friend wrote this stuff? Does he teach programming?

rough sapphire
#

not on the web version

#

@sullen thorn don't know if he still does, but yes that was one of his jobs

sullen thorn
#

Makes sense

rough sapphire
#

i mean someone i know made a minecraft to arduino program

#

press a button in game to light up a light irl

#

or push a button to launch a firework in game

sullen thorn
#

That’s actually pretty cool

rough sapphire
#

I should find myself some proper food

sullen thorn
#

But also like a number of people might do that

#

How many people implement scratch themselves?

#

Good idea

rough sapphire
#

you can't live on just pretzel sticks and bananas

#

right?

surreal otter
#

Rust ( video game ) idk about the programming language, has some neat electrical stuff, now they have an app that lets you flip switches on and off remotely. AND XOR OR & Blockers (NOT) make for a fun electric system.

rough sapphire
#

if you had flintstones gummies than yes

sullen thorn
#

You can live on those fine, i’d be more worried about not drinking enough water

surreal otter
#

Programming in games is fun. I saw a salesforce / Minecraft connection

#

two way

rough sapphire
#

@surreal otter yeah but this was a server plugin, written in java called scriptcraft, which parced javascript, which then talked to an arduino program over serial (I believe)

surreal otter
#

Whoops

rough sapphire
#

@sullen thorn I'd be deficient in many vitamins though

surreal otter
#

Just wanted to drop the image

#

If you care

rough sapphire
#

oh, I should take my B vitamin supplements!

surreal otter
rough sapphire
#

this is madness

surreal otter
#

?

rough sapphire
#

why bring work into a game environment

surreal otter
#

lol

#

They were too busy asking if they could...

rough sapphire
#

i mean if your getting paid to play minecraft...

surreal otter
sullen thorn
#

Lmao why is sales force minecraft a thing

#

Like ofc it’s a thing

rough sapphire
#

is a nine year old in charge of the sales department?

#

do you work for michael scott?

surreal otter
#

Why wouldn't it be a thing, the platform is so openly available

#

and people love to tinker

rough sapphire
#

cool

sullen thorn
#

the Force APIs

#

What is this, Star Wars?

rough sapphire
#

yes

#

but with sales forces instead

plucky ridge
#

But the question is, do they love to tkinter?

#

Okay even I'm upset at myself for that one

rough sapphire
#

never bothered with that

#

I think I used pyqt once or twice

#

ages ago

#

before qt adopted MVC

#

anyone here ever read souls in the great machine?

#

imagine having to write assembly for that thing

#

no, I kinda stopped reading novels past a certain age

sullen thorn
#

Aww why?

#

Reading is awesome

rough sapphire
#

depression

sullen thorn
#

That’s unfortunate

rough sapphire
#

or it was diagnosed as such at the time

sullen thorn
#

Can you reread a book that you’ve already enjoyed?

rough sapphire
#

Well, lately I've been getting much better, but I still spend more time with textbooks than novels

sullen thorn
#

Because you enjoy it more?

rough sapphire
#

I really used to like reading though

#

I do enjoy it, but it's also kinda needed, since I'm studying

warm widget
#

But the question is, do they love to tkinter?
incident_actioned

sullen thorn
#

But do you enjoy it more?

#

Lol

rough sapphire
#

I actually don't know

#

I mean, I get really excited when I finally understand a new concept and such

#

but I also used to enjoy reading engaging stories

#

also, novels are a minefield when you have something akin to PTSD

#

so I only really read novels when there's nothing else to do and I can deal with the possible emotional turmoil

sullen thorn
#

Hmm... but the high of understanding a new concept is relatively short

rough sapphire
#

After that you need to polish actually applying it

#

so there's plenty of things to keep me busy

sullen thorn
#

Eh that parts not as fun

rough sapphire
#

I don't think everything in life needs to be fun

#

the more important bit is that life feals worthwhile

plucky ridge
#

There's plenty in life that has to be done that isn't fun and doesn't feel worth while

#

That's life

#

But during those moments, it's about thinking about the fun things you WILL be doing

#

Pushing on to the next fun

dry galleon
#

whoa whats going on in vc

plucky ridge
#

People hangin' out

tight meadow
#

vim on a laptop is fine

#

I don't understand the joke

forest swan
tight meadow
#

ah, makes sense

forest swan
#

most OT names are some really obscure reference

regal dagger
#

Hi everyone.

#

Is it really an off-topic channel?

high verge
#

depends on what you plan to do with it ;)

#

or will i have to deploy the old

forest swan
#

lmao

sour citrus
#

i found something in pycharm

forest crane
warm widget
#

Whoever put that, is ...

#

Talking physics right?

forest crane
#

yes

surreal otter
#

Alright, I can't. What's the topic

warm widget
#

It's going to aprox near 800N

#

W = mg

surreal otter
#

Psh, 80 thousand grams

#

clearly

warm widget
#

Chunky man

surreal otter
#

Although we know Earth basically means America, since that's all that exists, so they wanted it in pounds, so 176lbs

warm widget
#

lol

surreal otter
#

which is strikingly similar to the birthyear of AMerica 1776

#

Halflife 3 Confirmed

warm widget
#

I try to understand how ppl can measure in miles. I can't do it fam.

surreal otter
#

idk, KM/1.6

#

Any large distances really

#

WHat's 100 miles? What's 160 KM?

#

FAR

warm widget
#

like 1000m = 1km what's hard about that.

surreal otter
#

5280

#

1760

#

just remember numbers

#

Ooh, that 176 again

honest star
#

Oooh Windows PowerToys actually looks really useful

rugged heart
#

yes

slender pine
#

Highest wpm i've managed to reach w/ my laptop keyboard

rough sapphire
#

i should do that test

gentle moss
#

just pull a few +100's and say you're a monster typer and leave it at that

high verge
#

I need to get a new keyboard

#

Still using the old Logitech k120

grizzled leaf
soft violet
#

I got told off for citing quora. Elsewhere.

high verge
#

well it's not a source

#

but if you're looking for an explanation, it's fine

grizzled leaf
#

Well, there are tons of explanation about this topic, this was the first one came to my mind

high verge
#

yeah

grizzled leaf
#

I didn't say that you can trust everything you saw on quora

high verge
#

like you wouldn't cite some person on quora but as an explanation

grizzled leaf
#

I didn't understand what you meant

high verge
#

like i assume the issue that opalmist has was that Quora isn't an authoritative source on information

#

but if you just want an explanation of why something that you know is true is true it's fine

grizzled leaf
#

That usage of 'but' in the meaning of 'except' still confuses me somehow :l

rough sapphire
#

Ghost pinged

#

wow, this surgeon wants 200€ to make a quote o_o

#

the world of private healthcare is crazy

bleak lintel
solid pollen
#

Sensitive subject? Lol

sand goblet
#

Naw, there must've been a new episode of coronation street

#

:>

solid pollen
#

What on earth is that haha

#

I sounds like a silly English series

sand goblet
#

daaaaaaaaaaa, da-da, da-da-daaaaaaaa

solid pollen
#

Oh yeah it is

sand goblet
#

daaaaaaaaaaa, da-da daaaaa, da-da da-daaaaaa

solid pollen
#

First episode date: 9 December 1960
Sounds like it haha

sand goblet
#

it's a soap opera

#

commonly known as a soap

#

thanks daz

#

I don't watch soaps and I'm assuming you don't either

solid pollen
#

?

sand goblet
#

wonder what they're called in french

solid pollen
#

"Feuilleton" I think

sand goblet
#

that sounds like something you put on a cake

solid pollen
#

Or just "soap opera" because we like stealing names

#

Haha

sand goblet
#

they're basically dramatized slice of life shows

#

they're called soaps because that's how tv advertisements for washing powders were done originally

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some dramatic slice of life problem solved by buying the washing powder that brings you the whitest whites

solid pollen
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Lol

sand goblet
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clothes, I mean. obviously.

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Daz still does this

solid pollen
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We have little house on the prairie in France haha

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And we have some French garbage too

sand goblet
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coronation street and eastenders are the two big english soaps

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there's also emmerdale but it's not as big

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here in Ireland, we have those and Fair City

rough sapphire
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what about that essex thing

sand goblet
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the only way is essex?

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that's reality tv

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not a soap

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well I guess it's kind of a mix between both

solid pollen
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Reality TV is close to soap opera anyway tbh

rough sapphire
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do you watch it

sand goblet
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but it differs from soaps in that the shit happening is actually real

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nope

solid pollen
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Real is a big word

sand goblet
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well I do mean it literally

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IMDB:

Part soap opera, part reality show, `The Only Way Is Essex' follows the lives, loves and scandals of a group of real-life Essex guys and girls. Cameras capture the happenings at all kinds of locations including nail bars, nightclubs, and salons.

solid pollen
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I mean, they have scenarios and stuff

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Oh

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Oh

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What

sand goblet
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it has 25 seasons and a rating of 3.1 stars out of 10

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haha

solid pollen
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Haha

rough sapphire
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i've watched all the seasons of Sex and the City and 2 movies

sand goblet
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it's coming up again online because this is the 10-year anniversary

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sex and the city are american rom-coms

rough sapphire
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is it a rom-com?

sand goblet
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sex and the city is a dramatic rom-com yeah

rough sapphire
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well I wouldn't know

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i just watched it

sand goblet
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I mean the point is that it's not a soap

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:>

plucky ridge
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Not enough people dying and coming back to be a soap

chilly gorge
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boi hem

plucky ridge
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What'd I do?

chilly gorge
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nthy]

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ur the only guy from yesterday

plucky ridge
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Not entirely sure what you mean by that

royal lakeBOT
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Hey @chilly gorge!

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sand goblet
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Oh, hey hem o/

plucky ridge
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Yo

honest star
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The timer on my ricemaker is not being consistent and it is driving my very-hungry-self a bit mad

surreal otter
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This is the truth

honest star
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As someone who grew up in NJ and is now living somewhere else. The struggle is real. The left lane is for passing, not for chilling out going barely above the speed limit.

surreal otter
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lol

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@NJGov is the best twitter on the interwebs

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I don't live there anymore, but II grew up there too. The ❤️ is real

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NJ is a very interesting state

high verge
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reckon this is intentionally a kinda straight kinda not straight rainbow?

surreal otter
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probably easier to make it that way

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than trying to math out the curve ratios

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for knitting

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and the top would be easy lines

high verge
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oh yeah definitely

surreal otter
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ngl I hate that style of knitting

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It's like the texture was loading, then erorred out and pulled a default

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at the pits

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My mom would knit sweaters like that and I never wore em

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also knitted sweaters are HEAVY

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but the sentiment is always nice

halcyon mantle
stuck meteor
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why is __file__ returning the path with /

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instead of \

sullen thorn
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does it matter? aren't both valid?