my body temp. is 1 degree higher since that happened
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
rough sapphire
undone berry
I don't really know much about Swine Flu. In general was it worse or about the same as normal flu?
rough sapphire
no joke
plucky ridge
Oh huh
rough sapphire
docs don't even know what the fuck
rough sapphire
do you burn more calories?
gentle moss
what, he thaws slightly quicker now?
plucky ridge
I think it's dictated by your microbiome
gentle moss
not sure there's more cause for defrosting an xx if found frozen
plucky ridge
So if that got changed/altered during your flu, it's possible that's just your new normal
plucky ridge
Ah also didn't think of that
royal laurel
I don't really know much about Swine Flu. In general was it worse or about the same as normal flu?
@undone berry
17k deaths on the first year
rough sapphire
yep.
I remember when I was in 6th grade I had a small case of the West Nile virus
plucky ridge
Sorry, brain's still stuck in the dark ages
rough sapphire
you know how bees vibrate to raise the group temperature? humans do that with gangnam style
undone berry
Yeha, the normal range for bodytemps is 37+-.5
rough sapphire
@oak tangle yeah I think it should, its a nice community they got there and could prob help out people here quite a bit
plucky ridge
@rough sapphire I want to be mad but now I just see Sai as the queen bee
Or however you spell his name
royal laurel
I'd send my minecraft bee emote but my nitro ran out and discord said "frick paypal"
rough sapphire
@misty sierra yep, my body temps used to hover under 37, around 36.7 or so
now it's around 37.6
Man I haven’t played Minecraft in a while
plucky ridge
Interesting
rough sapphire
It’s mostly been fifa and Roblox for me
@plucky ridge and the next time you see a documentary on the subject you'll have the song stuck in your head. it elevates the whole experience
plucky ridge
The concept comes up a lot on No Such Thing as a Fish
Partly because their theme tune "Wasps" is actually about that
gentle moss
ahhhh, gangnam style.
rough sapphire
dude imagine a 54 year old murder hornet from louisiana
plucky ridge
"When is the toaster going to get up in the night and stab me?"
gentle moss
a stinging criticism of faux bourgeoisie lifestyles in South Korea
misunderstood by the entire planet
royal laurel
I own spiders and let me tell you, nothing frightens me more than wasps
plucky ridge
I own spiders
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy
rough sapphire
Lol
rough sapphire
There’s always a bee that hangs around in my backyard for sum reason
royal laurel
Yes they DO
rough sapphire
I named him berry benson
undone berry
Tarantulas? Or normal spindly bastards?
rough sapphire
Barry*
royal laurel
They like pets and chilling around
undone berry
Tarantulas don't get to me - but normal spiders freak me out
royal laurel
Tarantulas
plucky ridge
I thought actually petting them agitated them. Because the hairs are there to detect movement
gentle moss
my mum had a chilean rose spider or something
plucky ridge
Sort of like petting a cat the wrong direction
gentle moss
thing would flick its hairs at you
rough sapphire
i've got a spider in my bathroom i call "spiderbro"
royal laurel
On the butt? yes
on they body cap? they okay
rough sapphire
he's cool, catches insects and shit
gentle moss
you've got a spider in the bath?
plucky ridge
Gotcha
rough sapphire
he's cute
royal laurel
to the tune of uptown funk
spi ders inthetub
spiders in the tub
rough sapphire
he don't bother me none
plucky ridge
Aki no. It's in my head now
pine vector
Hem...finally found it. Tom Segura: Disgraceful. Dad bit starts at 19:36. (Tom is rather crass, if you haven't watched him; be warned. :D)
plucky ridge
God damn it
gentle moss
royal laurel
HEHEHEH GOTTEM
gentle moss
there was a whole kids cartoon about a friendly spider
plucky ridge
@pine vector Solid, I'll check it out
royal laurel
oh i'm just quoting a tumblr post
plucky ridge
Who was I going to listen to.... Oh right, The Toadies
undone berry
I have a nosebleed for the first time in like 5+ years and I have no idea why - am I going to die?
royal laurel
Yes
rough sapphire
@gentle moss when u mean lil kid show are u talking about Miss spiders sunny patch friends?
royal laurel
Maybe not today, but yes
rough sapphire
definitely today
pine vector
"Out by the boathouse!" (i think that's how it goes...)
plucky ridge
@undone berry Depends. Have you been hugging uranium again?
undone berry
oh - is that not what it's for?
plucky ridge
I mean it is
gentle moss
i'm very much not talking about that, because i posted what i was talking about.
plucky ridge
But there's known side-effects to the huggin'
rough sapphire
Xbox or PS4?
royal laurel
radiation: can and will kill you
me: haha hugging uranium go brrrrr
solid pollen
I mean, hugging uranium isn't that dangerous, at least it is not insta-death
rough sapphire
Sorry I’m Xbox hem 😐
undone berry
There used to be uranium and radium watches with glow in the dark hands
plucky ridge
undone berry
obviously gonna kill you - but I dunno, I think i'd still be willing to wear one every now and then
they'd look so dope
solid pollen
PS4 beacuse I have an Xbox
gentle moss
yeah, the women who painted it on would lick the radium covered paintbrushes
rough sapphire
it's not the radiation that kills you
But there is one thing Xbox has got better than PS4
gentle moss
and their jaws would fall off
royal laurel
Just grab those party bracelets that shine, same thing
undone berry
Radiation does also kill you if it's strong enough, just straight up kills cells
gentle moss
they used to drink radium because "oh hey look it go shiny!"
rough sapphire
Imagine downloading a game on PS4 and you wait for a whole day then it ask for an update
gentle moss
the women working as painters would paint their teeth with it for lols
plucky ridge
Humans used to (and still do) a lot of stupid shit
@rough sapphire I'm okay with this
undone berry
tbf - nowadays we know it's stupid and still do it
solid pollen
Brain: body go glow glow
gentle moss
we were having asbestos fights as recently as the late 70's
rough sapphire
i doubt the radiation from those uranium-painted watches would be strong enough for cell damage to that extent that it kills you, tho
plucky ridge
If it means that they're smooshing bugs so I don't have to deal with them? I'll hold out
gentle moss
it's uhhh, beta radiation?
undone berry
at least back in the past we didn't know it was stupid
gentle moss
so you have to eat it
undone berry
True, XX, my point was pretty irrelevant actually
solid pollen
Beta doesn't go through the watch metal though
solid pollen
Well yes
royal laurel
why would i eat a clock
rough sapphire
whatch you gonna do about it?
gentle moss
to make your bowel movements regular
royal laurel
badumtssss
undone berry
Beta particles emit secondary gamma rays
rough sapphire
emit is also time backwards
gentle moss
second hand gamma rays never killed nobody
gentle moss
big toke on a giant uranium cigarette
royal laurel
yes
plucky ridge
Honestly, the whole Rubberneck album is absolute gold
solid pollen
It isn't bad
gentle moss
my sweet angel
plucky ridge
Such a creepy song but so fun
gentle moss
i like how he sings about cheesus throughout
solid pollen
but I'm back to after hours 
Sometime I'm glad I doesn't understand english lyrics when I actually read them
rough sapphire
When I get a chosen to do a tech presentation about bilingualism and I am Bilingual
gentle moss
it's almost as good as in uhhh
rough sapphire
gentle moss
which, if you can imagine it, is probably quite dangerous
i did some fag packet maths with the gf and they'd probably weigh about 3.6grams
solid pollen
I'm even more happy that I don't understand english when an album is like that
plucky ridge
Thanks for the ping
gentle moss
and go about 40m/s
awww shit.
that's my new ding isn't it. i've cleaned up one but now you're just destroying my cultural heritage.
plucky ridge
The cocktail napkin stuff
sand goblet
yup
gentle moss
oh yeah, pretty much
undone berry
Politicians have clubs not pubs
and you need to be on a list to get in
and wear a smoking jacket
gentle moss
we don't do napkins though
plucky ridge
Sure sure
gentle moss
we have fierce beer coasters.
plucky ridge
Was just trying to figure out an equal concept
fierce beer coaster
Makes it sound like they'll try to cut you
gentle moss
usually soggy after 2 pints
rough sapphire
wtf?
gentle moss
or on the floor because it got stuck to your glass
rough sapphire
oh, coasters
undone berry
Beer coasters exist primarily to be destroyed
plucky ridge
Or collected
gentle moss
or thrown
undone berry
they serve no real purpose
gentle moss
or stacked
undone berry
yeah, they're like a little minigame that comes with the table
plucky ridge
Make little beer coaster pyramids
gentle moss
when i used to play pool in a league i was the designated driver
so would just go around the whole pub and get all the beer coasters
and make a giant pyramid
one time i managed to steal an entire pack from behind the bar
less impressed at how many tables i'd taken up rather than the beer coaster theft
undone berry
Thinking about it - I feel kinda bad for pubs, they just get nearly everything stolen, knives/forks, glasses, coasters, even nonsense like salt+pepper shakers
that or my family are thieves
gentle moss
i've stolen some good cutlery before
and a few pint glasses
maybe like ~40 over the years
living opposite a pub gave me a clear advantage on that front
undone berry
Used to have about 3 big boxes in the loft just full of shitty stolen pint glasses
gentle moss
pub theft jumps pretty quickly though
gentle moss
because what have you got? like some glasses and cutlery?
okay, sure... but what's next?
sand goblet
the pub itself
gentle moss
it's a parasol.
plucky ridge
Next thing you know you're breaking into museums to steal priceless works of art
gentle moss
stealing the picnic table parasol is the next level up
undone berry
alright - I'm off to steal a parasol
gentle moss
and that's a huge leap
sand goblet
haha
plucky ridge
Stop the addiction before it's too late, bisk
gentle moss
pint glasses -> parasols: my decline into kleptomania by Charlie.
plucky ridge
The brolly king
gentle moss
my stepdad when we lived in london owned a van
and nicked the parasol AND the fucking picnic bench
gentle moss
the bench.
undone berry
that's hilarious for some reason
plucky ridge
What a dickhead
plucky ridge
Oh yeah
gentle moss
oh it's super shitty, but that's some fucking theft right there
gentle moss
and it was super obvious too
plucky ridge
Grand Theft Bench
undone berry
It's such a not-worth-it thing to steal
gentle moss
pub was like 2 blocks down the road
and our garden just suddenly got a picnic bench and a FOSTERS branded parasol
undone berry
haha
sand goblet
lol, what
undone berry
the idea of a Fosters parasol is fantastic
sand goblet
that's fucking hilarious
plucky ridge
Your stepdad wouldn't happened to have spent time in prison, has he?
gentle moss
nope!
plucky ridge
Wh- how
gentle moss
however for the level of crime in the area at the time here's an example
rough sapphire
where in london was this
gentle moss
not one but two of his very expensive cars he had owned got just craned onto a lorry and driven away
Bromley
he went to safeway to go shopping and someone just picked up his cosworth and dumped it on a flat loader
alarm going and everything
plucky ridge
What in the magical hell is wrong with the world
gentle moss
the picnic bench is clearly some sort of internal revenge
cosworth look pretty, go vroom :(
gentle moss
:D
plucky ridge
I always feel like those are the most useless things ever
gentle moss
i imagine it's for snow
plucky ridge
Fair
gentle moss
although my car did fail its MOT last year because i just hadn't washed it
and the headlights were dirty
gentle moss
i wish they'd have just a bucket of water and a squeegy or something at garages
plucky ridge
Do they typically not?
Oh right like
Auto shops
Okay I getcha
Wait that still seems weird
gentle moss
no, we don't just have that shit out for free use anywhere
i mean i should've washed my car before the MOT
plucky ridge
Yeah that's fair. Especially if it was THAT bad
gentle moss
mate was clearly taking the piss, charged me 50p to "polish headlights"
plucky ridge
Sheesh
gentle moss
i know him, solid mechanic.
never takes the piss.
i've been tempted to upgrade my headlights to something a bit brighter.
plucky ridge
Don't be that guy
gentle moss
last winter i was finding it really hard to see fucking anything
because everyone has crazy LED lights
i fucking hate them
gentle moss
but at this point non-aftermarket headlights are getting too bright
plucky ridge
Like near constant high beams
gentle moss
it's the type / intensity of the light too
plucky ridge
True
gentle moss
feel like there should be some kind of lumen limit idk
plucky ridge
Yeah it's hard to figure out exactly what the right way to do it is.
Because even a little bump in the road will suddenly blind the person coming towards you
So an angle adjustment wouldn't do it
Intensity wouldn't help in that situation much either
If I remember correctly, we were taught to look at the shoulder line when there's too bright a light oncoming
Use that as your gauge to stay on the road until they pass
royal laurel
Do any of you have experience with Minecraft modding?
Specifically root mod packs
This is gonna make me sob
graceful basin
root mod packs?
rough sapphire
you probably want to ping @sand goblet
graceful basin
no it does not, you should be getting with the twitch launcher
plucky ridge
Gdude is the mod man
plucky ridge
But not a mod, man
gentle moss
oh our roads have no street lights, barely any markings and are just about wide enough for two hgv's hem
rough sapphire
@plucky ridge not anymore
sand goblet
I'm doctor eggman, I'm not an egg, man...
gentle moss
and the speed limit is 60mph.
plucky ridge
@gentle moss -shudders-
royal laurel
no it does not, you should be getting with the twitch launcher
if you use twitch launcher just don't talk to me lmao
sand goblet
No modpack replaces that folder
graceful basin
what you are probably interested in is the forge installation process
royal laurel
rl does!
sand goblet
No it doesn't
graceful basin
well, there are other launchers, but twitch is the simplest to use
royal laurel
i'm telling you it does
sand goblet
MultiMC is what I tell people to use
graceful basin
MMC is also good
sand goblet
yeah that's the game directory, it doesn't replace it
graceful basin
GDLauncher is another one
graceful basin
A lot of people seem to like GD
royal laurel
Can you just answer my question instead of giving me advice I don't need thank you
sand goblet
GD can't actually install some modpacks
royal laurel
Why do people always do this
plucky ridge
Hold on
royal laurel
You know what my question implies
sand goblet
that directory has to be in a specific structure for Minecraft to even be able to run
plucky ridge
I think there might be a terminology mix up
graceful basin
what it does is create an alternative game directory
plucky ridge
Replace as in overwrite or just load instead of?
royal laurel
How does it replace .minecraft in game directory
graceful basin
with forge installed
sand goblet
well, that screenshot looks like the default Minecraft launcher
royal laurel
lak i code forge, i know this, please just, don't
graceful basin
oh, that is a launcher profile
sand goblet
so whatever setup RLCraft does for you, it's just creating a profile in the launcher
yeah
graceful basin
you can set it in launcher_profiles.json
plucky ridge
Aki I'm going to have to ask you to chill out a little. People are trying to help, please be patient
royal laurel
How does that work? is it just a clone of .minecraft without version folder?
plucky ridge
Deep breaths and all that
royal laurel
I'm too used to people under estimating what I know and mansplaining shit
I don't have patience
plucky ridge
Well I ask that you have some for this server
rough sapphire
🤔 you're the one who asked for help
royal laurel
And then I proceeded to get explained something else
plucky ridge
We have very short attention sp-
soft violet
@royal laurel When you said you code forge, do you mean you work on Forge itself, or write mods to run on it?
sand goblet
although I have to take issue with your use of mansplaining
royal laurel
Modding uwu with intelliJ
sand goblet
I don't think gendered insults are appropriate
royal laurel
it's a pain, but i really like it
graceful basin
you have given absolutely no indication of your knowledge level
until a while back
royal laurel
Just answer the question i asked instad of talking me about twitch launcher?
soft violet
@royal laurel What are uwu and intellij?
royal laurel
lmao
plucky ridge
IntelliJ's the Java IDE by JetBrains
royal laurel
mmhm
sand goblet
IntelliJ is pretty fantastic, gotta say
it's my weapon of choice for modding as well
graceful basin
same
royal laurel
I love it, eclipse was a disaster
lofty dirge
Who made Eclipse?
royal laurel
it somehow could not ever register import net.
sand goblet
the Eclipse foundation, Rabbit
lofty dirge
owned by Oracle?
royal laurel
The sun
soft violet
So what does uwu do? I'd open up a browser and do a search, but I'm running a thing and I don't want to provoke it too much.
royal laurel
Basically what I want to know is what folder and files do I need to replace .minecraft with my own game directory
sand goblet
it's a face, opal
soft violet
In the context of Minecraft modding.
royal laurel
none
sand goblet
it's still a face.
royal laurel
Modding, uwu, with intelliJ
soft violet
Oh. So uwu isn't a mod.
sand goblet
@royal laurel You should just be able to modify launcher_profiles.json
let me check where that actually is
soft violet
I knew it was a face thing, but...okay. Not a mod.
graceful basin
I would suggest looking at how twitch sets up its custom directory structure for the MC launcher
plucky ridge
Hipster
royal laurel
I'M NOT USING TWITCH LAUNCHER
plucky ridge
Aki
royal laurel
Not saying it again
plucky ridge
If you read what he said
graceful basin
indeed you are not
plucky ridge
He's not suggesting you use it
graceful basin
but it does what you want to know how to do
plucky ridge
Only use it as a reference for where it points to stuff
plucky ridge
And yes, we understand that. But if that's currently not working out for you, I don't see how suggesting another method of getting what you need is unreasonable
royal laurel
Because now it come the thing that strikes me, RL doesn't have any launcher profile
sand goblet
this'll take a minute
royal laurel
It doesn't have versions, it doesn't have a bin folder for forge
soft violet
You know, that's not a bad idea for a mod. Actually, it's a terrible idea, but it'd be hillarious. Uwuify Minecraft chat.
royal laurel
It just exists
royal laurel
It already exists
soft violet
Of course it does.
royal laurel
All mobs have UwU faces
sand goblet
so, hang on, which launcher are you using, vanilla?
royal laurel
Yup
sand goblet
how did you install rlcraft in the first place then?
royal laurel
Manually
sand goblet
are they distributing something that isn't a twitch modpack?
royal laurel
CurseForge
soft violet
Creeper explodes. "Uuuggguu!!!! * kaboom *"
sand goblet
same thing
plucky ridge
The instructions on the site say as follows:
FILES: (For manual install using the server pack only, which can also be used for client as well) Make sure there is nothing in your Mods or Config folders, then copy the folders over from this modpack into your Minecraft directory.
royal laurel
Download server zip, put it on Roaming
plucky ridge
So it should just be a straight one to one
sand goblet
oh, you used the.. okay
sand goblet
wait, so the installation requires you to change that yourself
graceful basin
that works?
sand goblet
so what's your question then, why it works?
sand goblet
Oh okay
Well that's actually fairly simple
When you look at how the launcher actually works, there are a few different moving parts
The game directory - or instance directory - basically only contains gameplay data
mods, logs, settings, that kind of thing
the actual libraries and internal Mojang code is stored elsewhere
royal laurel
i assume on Version
sand goblet
you can find that under .minecraft/versions yeah
royal laurel
plucky ridge
That... actually makes a lot of sense
royal laurel
So if i were to make my own RLcraft, I just need a mod folder, and it would load properly?
(aside from config)
sand goblet
Well, you don't actually need a separate folder, technically
It just makes life easier when you're using the vanilla launcher
Pretty much every other launcher automatically keeps instances separated
royal laurel
I'm gonna make it more complex but like, it doesn't needs anything in particular?
sand goblet
Not really
royal laurel
pogs
sand goblet
The game will create the basic file structure for you
You usually just need to put mods, configs and resource packs in there
royal laurel
let's just hope the mods are compatible
sand goblet
I will say that this stuff is made harder by the vanilla launcher, which isn't really designed for modpack work
it's doable, but
royal laurel
I prefer it this way
sand goblet
although I wouldn't recommend twitch either
sand goblet
yeah, and the launcher is full of bloat
graceful basin
well, they did manage to unify modding into a single, simple to use platform
royal laurel
I'll look into them once i know this mods can run together and no recipe overlaps
sand goblet
this is MultiMC, you might try that if you end up needing to manage a lot of modpacks
royal laurel
19 as of right now
sand goblet
Also bear in mind that all the good launchers will handle twitch/curse modpacks for you as well
royal laurel
I'll give it a look! thank you 🥰
sand goblet
not all modpacks provide a server pack, so yknow, it's sometimes not possible to do it yourself haha
graceful basin
there is also the curse pack downloader vazkii made
plucky ridge
Not without extra headache
sand goblet
vazkii's thing kinda sorta works
graceful basin
ye, not sure how up to date it is
sand goblet
but there's no point when MultiMC is cross platform unless you're trying to download a pack for a server
and even then, dockercraft can handle curse modpacks
plucky ridge
This is gonna suck
I'm now reaching the tail end of the database split
Now I have to go through by hand all the ones that didn't have a category marked on them
soft violet
Adding categories as appropriate as you go?
plucky ridge
Of course not. That would be the smart thing to do
I legit didn't think about it
Thankfully I haven't really started that section yet, so I can do that now
soft violet
How many do you have to do?
plucky ridge
Everything up to this point has been easy. It's this part that I've been dreading. Looks like I have..... 379 I have to handle
And then once I move people to these, I'll have even more
soft violet
That doesn't sound insurmountable.
plucky ridge
No it's really not
But there's some with passwords so I'm trying to figure out how to deal with all that
Some individual client folder, I mean
soft violet
Got a database of people's birthdays?
soft violet
Familial relations? Pets?
plucky ridge
I think there has to be a master password to just wipe them for situations like this
Likely going to be something I have to ask the senior partner
gentle moss
it's called throw the clients in the bin and find new ones.
soft violet
I'll always think of Angel when I hear "Senior partner"
plucky ridge
She's more of an small angry polish woman
But yeah, close enough
Oh HA
Yeah it just clicked that you meant the show
What was it, Wolfram and Heart?
plucky ridge
Ah that's right
gentle moss
oh so i was right when thinking about david boreanaz
soft violet
His fault for having a complicated name.
I'm supportive. Some diversity is good.
Not looking at you, Elon, you twit.
gentle moss
OH RIGHT
that took me way too long
you're talking about his dumb naming skills
have to admit it was a master stroke to switch to roman numerals
soft violet
That's a perspective.
gentle moss
i mean california were going to reject the name because it had numbers in it
so they switched it on them
like only a big brain smart boy would do
floral viper
meanwhile some other dev didn't get a bonus but he was expecting one and now he is sitting there wondering what he did wrong
sand goblet
lol, whatever it was for, I'm sure you deserved it
plucky ridge
I'm no dev, though. Just an inhouse IT guy/runner/administrative support. I guess I could ask
royal laurel
but there's no point when MultiMC is cross platform unless you're trying to download a pack for a server
@sand goblet
so essentially it's like an import pack interface?
sand goblet
which now, MultiMC or vaskii's script?
royal laurel
mc
sand goblet
MultiMC is basically just an alternative to the vanilla launcher
floral viper
I was only joking 😄 As gdude said, you prolly deserved the bonus 🙂
sand goblet
It does all the same stuff but it also includes automatic modpack provisioning
so you can, eg, download a curse modpack zip and import it
royal laurel
Hm, I see
sand goblet
it'll then provide you with a separate settings interface for each modpack, and it'll keep them separate from each other
what it can't do is keep them up to date for you
I think only the twitch launcher can do that
which is annoying
royal laurel
Oh I'll do that myself
sand goblet
yeah it's not that much of a big deal really
royal laurel
I don't want them automatic
sand goblet
when I run a modpack, I tell users what they should copy over from the old instance
Haven't had issues with people being unable to follow that yet
Notion is free for personal use now if you need somewhere to dump that kind of documentation
royal laurel
I'll most likely just upload it to curseforge, and do a github rep for manual download
sand goblet
Yep, that works too
Just bear in mind that Curseforge requires that modpacks be of a specific format (so that their twitch launcher works I suppose)
sand goblet
If you actually download a curse modpack, you'll see there's a json manifest in them
royal laurel
on config yee
sand goblet
it basically lists all of the project IDs and files to download from Curse
you'll need to have that if you're uploading to Curse
royal laurel
I'll have to look into it
sand goblet
yup
zip files with a json manifest, icon, and any mods that can't be downloaded from curse projects
they have a whitelist for that last point, you can't just put anything in there
rough sapphire
do the mods need to be approved before they're published?
sand goblet
yes
rough sapphire
ah
sand goblet
modpacks too
they don't allow you to like
upload a rehash of another modpack
I'm not sure why
graceful basin
curse points
royal laurel
It's just a cottagecore pack
sand goblet
right, yeah, curse points I suppose
rough sapphire
do they also test for malware?
sand goblet
They're supposed to
graceful basin
yes, though not very well
sand goblet
I think they're bad at it personally
royal laurel
Who puts their malware on mod packs
sand goblet
oh god, you have no idea
rough sapphire
a surprising amount of people
it's easy code execution on a large number of machines (if your modpack is popular)
royal laurel
What a waste
sand goblet
it's a pretty good vector actually
however I will say
they do not review the big old mods
when we publish a journeymap release, it's up in like 30 minutes
if not sooner
rough sapphire
🤔
sand goblet
occasionally it's up immediately
I mean we do have like 75 million downloads and nobody's complained of a virus, so I guess that's fair enough
graceful basin
there is a lot of trust involved in running arbitrary code from hundreds of people at once, which is why malicious code in mods in such a big deal
sand goblet
but I dunno
royal laurel
hey g, how would you approach refreshing a mod created prior to the flattening
sand goblet
Not sure what you mean by that
royal laurel
How would you update to .15 a mod made on .12
graceful basin
some people did the ol' copy code into a newer workspace and mess with it until red goes away.
solid pollen
the flattening is when they got rid of the discrimator for block IDs
sand goblet
most mods have been entirely rewritten
royal laurel
Would you say it's better to just start from scratch?
graceful basin
for flattening block IDs, depending on the mod, they either just did it manually, or wrote a script for it
sand goblet
It depends on the mod
graceful basin
depends
sand goblet
I advocated for that with journeymap
Mystic was able to get it up to date.. somehow
but there are bugs
graceful basin
if you are doing a lot of rendering, maybe. Redering is quite different
coremods are also different
sand goblet
it's a good excuse to rewrite when you have 7 years of legacy code, if you asked me, but
royal laurel
I have both trumpetskeleton and FamiliarFauna on this stage
sand goblet
I don't think that should be too troublesome, yeah
You could just take the ol' head against the wall approach
try to build it
fix the errors
graceful basin
pretty sure someone even made a remapper that updates mappings
those that are just renames that is
sand goblet
I mean you shouldn't actually need to do that
royal laurel
I really want deer. I really do man.
sand goblet
unless you're accessing names that are still obfuscated
there's a bot on the forge IRC channel that can help you with those cases
graceful basin
I meant the changes like ItemBlock -> BlockItem (or was it the other way, I did not touch forge in months)
royal laurel
The biggest error I'm getting is the missing mods.toml file
royal laurel
Mmhm
graceful basin
ye, then you can just take the default one from the MDK or refer to another mod
royal laurel
I have the one on com.examplemod when you just load forge mdk
I'll go with that and up from there
graceful basin
good luck
royal laurel
is mods.toml a new mcmod.info?
graceful basin
yes
sand goblet
that's right yup
royal laurel
this is gonna become minecraft support chat
[[mods]] #mandatory
should i just leave it blank?
graceful basin
That is a list declaration, you should create a single entry with your mod. Are you familiar with TOML?
royal laurel
Nope! never went past .12
graceful basin
TOML is a standard format, let me search up a tutorial
royal laurel
I completed most of it and I know what it is
I'm just confused about that particular line
graceful basin
###################
# Array of Tables #
###################
# An array of tables can be expressed by using a table name in double brackets.
# Each table with the same double bracketed name will be an item in the array.
# The tables are inserted in the order encountered.
[[products]]
name = "array of table"
sku = 738594937
emptyTableAreAllowed = true
[[products]]
name = "Nail"
sku = 284758393
color = "gray"
```it declares an element of a list of tablesso that is
[ {name: "array of table", sku: 738594937, emptyTableAreAllowed: true}
, {name: "Nail", sku: 284758393, color: "gray"}
]
```in a more common syntaxSo
"A list of mods"
oh so it's a prior bracket for the mod id
oh i just got it okay i see
rough sapphire
so, I've got no cash, I've blocked my main card because of a fraudulent transaction and have to wait 10 days for a new one, can't log into my bank to transfer money to my other card because my national ID card (my main authentication method) has expired and I'm waiting for the new one since yesterday, but it might take a few days
and my other authentication method, mobile-ID mysteriously stopped working today because ???
sand goblet
is it gofundme time?
royal laurel
They can't find you
rough sapphire
they probably invalidated my old certificates, which were bound to my mobile ID
because they made new ones. Not sure, seems likely
@sand goblet well, lack of money isn't really the issue
it's that I can't use it
dog, I don't have any food
sand goblet
isn't that the same thing
rough sapphire
what do people eat in situations like this?
sand goblet
beans and rice
rough sapphire
shall I go scavenging
royal laurel
They don't
pine vector
souls?
undone berry
you have no bank account access, so you can't even use scammy payday lenders
pine vector
and sorry xx. i've been in that pickle before. full-on catch 22
undone berry
I think the default response would be to borrow cash from friends
but now isn't a great time for that
sand goblet
I could do that
rough sapphire
bold of you to assume I have friends 😄
nah, I'll probably just go to my parents' place and wait for all of this to blow over
undone berry
How can you get cash to him?
sand goblet
I dunno how far it'd go but I can shoot you 50 euro if you can give me a way to get it to you
undone berry
ah - 2 cards
sand goblet
Alright, well, let me know if you change your mind
rough sapphire
thanks
undone berry
very distantly related - rice and beans isn't even that bad of a meal
The beans are very healthy, and it's very cheap
rough sapphire
also, it later turned out that the charge wasn't even fraudulent in the first place, I'm just really fucking dumb and cancelled my card for no reason
royal laurel
How should i compress it into jar
graceful basin
gradle build IIRC
royal laurel
oh it's the same cool
graceful basin
you can press ctlr twice to run that
royal laurel
I remember you could also do it on winrar but idr how it wenr
rough sapphire
aren't jars just renamed zips
graceful basin
yes
undone berry
I don't think there's anything I hate more than having to dig around in jars
graceful basin
they do carry additional meaning though
royal laurel
i could just zip it and change the extension
i think
or i can just use the jar cf command
plucky ridge
Yeah you should be able to
I think you can do the same with .iso files?
Possibly?
I feel like I've done that before...
sand goblet
You can actually load mods from zips in fact
graceful basin
pretty sure forge will yell at you though
graceful basin
how did you make the mod?
royal laurel
Log says ". jar is missing mods.tolm" fime
rough sapphire
blank entry? or is it supposed to say just .jar?
royal laurel
I didn't, I just snatched a mod I like from .12, made a .tolm file and tested it
graceful basin
that will not compile
graceful basin
you cannot run a mod that does not compile
royal laurel
What should I do now? Picture that I really don't want to make it from scratch
rough sapphire
correct me if i'm wrong, but it should be toml and not tolm, right?
soft violet
Are you working from a tutorial?
graceful basin
ye, typo I would guess
royal laurel
I know I can't, I was hoping the log would be more specific into what failed
So I could work from there
graceful basin
gradle build should give you a good error, as should intelliJ
royal laurel
And I'm not! I have no idea what I'm doing! Pure intuition hours
plucky ridge
🎶 Gradle Gradle Gradle, I made you out of code 🎶
graceful basin
well, start with using that. Porting is a lot of work and you will be writing code. I would suggest reading the forge getting started guide and get a 1.15 workspace running
then you will see a lot of red underlines
fix them
royal laurel
I know how to run a workspace
Like, let's put it this way
I know how to run from scratch. I have mdk, I know the class thing and all that
I don't know how to put the jar file on the forge mdk
Or where
graceful basin
oh, are you not working with the source code of a mod?
graceful basin
is the mod open source?
solid pollen
Release date : 2012/02 outch
graceful basin
well, hopefully the buildscript is in no way unique
royal laurel
It doesn't look very complicated
Given, it's a mod to replace a skeleton bow with a trumpet
It shouldn't be that complicated
It's updating the wrapper now so I guess that's alright
rough sapphire
dootcraft
royal laurel
Exactly
plucky ridge
So do they still shoot arrows or does it change the projectile as well?
plucky ridge
Neat
royal laurel
If you get too close it bonks you with the trumpet
plucky ridge
Yeah, that certainly sounds like something they would doot
royal laurel
You might understand my wish to update it to 15.2
plucky ridge
How do you mean?
royal laurel
Oh gosh the class file is a red wall
It's a .12 mod and it got abandoned 2 years ago so I'm picking it up again
ouch
sullen thorn
does normal code not do that?
plucky ridge
That's how mine usually looks....
sand goblet
Dootcraft indeed
Enigmacraft uses that mod and it's fucking hilarious
Scared the shit out of me the first time I got blown off a cliff by one though, haha
royal laurel
Skeleton Doots
royal laurel
I have no idea what I'm doing I'm just updating classes hoping they make sense
Is there libraries for this???
rough sapphire
@sand goblet i have that skin! it's pretty cool, but... well, the multiplayer isn't the best so you never get to use it
i mean, it's not bad, it's just that the base game is so much better
plucky ridge
It's not great either
Really just makes me miss deathmatch
It's not what I want in a multiplayer experience
And I wish you could use the doot skeleton in the base game
plucky ridge
I could see this taking a few days minimum
royal laurel
And this is for a fricking Skeleton
I'm gonna have to do this for familiar fauna too
rough sapphire
just hire some dude on fiverr to do it for you
graceful basin
I can suggest you a server where you can pay for things like that
royal laurel
Then again I paid a streamer to do a TikTok dance
100$
Not my proudest moment
I don't have any money
Help
plucky ridge
Why was this a choice you made?
royal laurel
He's hot and we're friends now
rough sapphire
man, you make even poorer life choices than i do
plucky ridge
-sighs- I hate those terms
royal laurel
Hahahahah
royal laurel
I've watched him on YouTube for a while now, he did the whole "raytracing vr minecraft" thing
Found his twitch, got along well, he said he'd do a TikTok for 100$, I had the money
rough sapphire
It would have been cheaper to give him your egg yolks.
@soft violet ಠ_ಠ
soft violet
I was confused.
rough sapphire
2*50
royal laurel
I don't like kids but I'd do it
soft violet
I thought aki was someone else.
plucky ridge
I don't like kids but I'd do it
Okay now I'm confused
Actually the whole thing is confusing to me
royal laurel
Eggs
rough sapphire
messages disappearing.. it's hard to make sense of all this
plucky ridge
xx said something in the wrong window and was just cleaning it up
Wasn't related to the other statements
rough sapphire
i swear i'm going to do that with a password one day
sand goblet
I have done that
I posted my steam password on IRC by accident once
And nobody noticed
Woo
rough sapphire
my steam account is safer than my bank account
I've done 7ns identify hunter2 on irc before
plucky ridge
@royal laurel Okay, it's in my head now, I have to ask. $100 for the TikTok dance, you didn't make him go nude did you?
Because $100 is a lot of money
"Yes. Dance puppet dance!"
rough sapphire
i'd dance for $100 on dickdock
plucky ridge
Freud would like to have a word with you
royal laurel
It'd have been amazing
And I actually said "I'm the pimp and you're my stripper now DANCE" in chat because he didn't wanna do it
Even after I paid
royal laurel
It's our comedy I guess
plucky ridge
It's creepy either direction, really
royal laurel
He's great
plucky ridge
Fair enough
undone berry
I had my spotify account name the same as a password I use in lots of places for a while
royal laurel
I must note that I'm careful of the types of jokes I make with different groups of people, and that I'm aware that's a very weird comment out of context
AND THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH TO ME
graceful basin
that was fast
plucky ridge
Well do note that it's usually moderator me that's speaking here. My regular sense of humor is (while still very pun based) quite a bit ruder and cruder than here
I know I can come off as a bit of a stuffed shirt
royal laurel
I think you're cool
pine vector
yes. self moderation is a learn-ed trait... 😄
plucky ridge
I think you're cool
Only because you don't know me yet
royal laurel
I said what I said
plucky ridge
Cool has never been a thing I've done or strived for
pine vector
i backspace half of my messages.
royal laurel
You don't do cool
plucky ridge
Cool does you
royal laurel
Can't avoid it
plucky ridge
Well then I'll pull out my other standard response, you have poor taste then
rough sapphire
so be it
royal laurel
@graceful basin ping ping
What did you say was the thing to update old names to new ones?
rough sapphire
sed?
graceful basin
looking for it rn, it did a lot more at once
royal laurel
Pogs! Thank you so much
rough sapphire
what in the hell is a pog
royal laurel
Like, a gg but for normal conversation
graceful basin
because between forge 112 and forge 113, a lot of classes were renamed, so someone made a thing that translates equivalent classes
royal laurel
Bless
graceful basin
https://gist.github.com/williewillus/353c872bcf1a6ace9921189f6100d09a the things are linked here, @royal laurel
royal laurel
Oh there's a .py for intelliJ
rough sapphire
https://arse.ee/RYLQRrsR.png what the heck is minceraft ddunegon
graceful basin
a diablo like minecraft themed game
rough sapphire
is it any good
royal laurel
It's not long at all
Like, beat in a single game type of
But it has many many options and all runs are completely different
You can try it for 1$ with Xbox ultimate pc pass
rough sapphire
ah i see what you mean
plucky ridge
From what gdude told me it's pretty bland regarding abilities
If you're more used to other Diablo likes
royal laurel
Comes with a bunch of games, most importantly Dungeons, MCwin10, terraria, hollow knight
And idk I liked it, it's a little game but it does its job
graceful basin
https://i.redd.it/2tzznh78g3151.png also this happened
royal laurel
That did happen 5 hours post launch iirc
plucky ridge
Wooooooow
royal laurel
Got patched 7 hours later
plucky ridge
Still that's.... wow
royal laurel
Dungeons said: uninstall? I only know complete drive wipe
plucky ridge
A hidden little "all" tick box
graceful basin
pretty sure it just wiped the parent folder
rough sapphire
off topic, but every time someone accepts a friend request, it sends me this notification three times in a row https://arse.ee/kK4JObkv.png
not sure if it's windows being weird or discord
plucky ridge
Windows
royal laurel
Always Windows
plucky ridge
I think anyway
royal laurel
Had that happen with emails
plucky ridge
Although it's weird, I know I had those kinds of popups turned off....
Actually yeah, I did have it turned off
So why did I just get a confirmation popup....
graceful basin
which is a pretty fair bug yknow, you are running from some nested cwd and need to do
os.rmtree(Path() / "../../..")
``` and accidentally add one too many ..could totally see it happening
plucky ridge
Sure, but that's the kind of thing I would think you'd want to be more careful about
rough sapphire
or accidentally add / in front of it
graceful basin
yeah, that is the other obvious joke
rm -rf ./gamefolder / instead of rm -rf ./gamefolder/
pine vector
eek! no!
plucky ridge
Certainly feels like an "oh shit" moment
royal laurel
I'm just wondering how
sand goblet
I've done that
royal laurel
Like, those are totally possible
sand goblet
rm -rf * / instead of rm -rf */
graceful basin
nice
rough sapphire
yeah, i've definitely done that as well
luckily, gnu's rm needs --no-preserve-root, which saved my ass
rough sapphire
busybox's is not that forgiving
sand goblet
I never fucking did it again
plucky ridge
Yeah that flag seems like the obvious answer
rough sapphire
.
plucky ridge
Hey wake
rough sapphire
yeah got timed out for a bit.
graceful basin
wb
rough sapphire
thanks
undone berry
o/
sand goblet
oh my god
royal laurel
how do i add a run client configuration on intelli
graceful basin
gradle genIntelliJRuns IIRC
sand goblet
yup
plucky ridge
Awwww I forgot about the little heart squid guys