ot1-perplexing-regexing

[low shadow]

lets work on this together

@stuck meteor

i am searching

and can u provide me the guy detail who did the same job

PM me/DM me

[gentle moss]

have you read their Terms of Service / Use?

[stuck meteor]

yes i did lmao

[rough sapphire]

I wrote a post on my devblog but I don't know if its stupid or not. Thats how I always feel every time I write one.

[stuck meteor]

i know this game since 2014

[gentle moss]

You agree not to use any hardware or software, including but not limited to third party tools, or any other method
of support which may in any way influence or give you an advantage in the use of the Services which is not
authorized by Atelier 801 SARL, including but not limited to the use of �bots� and/or any other method by which the
Service may be played automatically without human input.

because that's in there

[stuck meteor]

Hm?

[gentle moss]

it's in the terms of service.

"don't bot or automate"

[stuck meteor]

If you use their api then you can lol

they have an api endpoint

also a library

called aiotfm

[low shadow]

ok

[gentle moss]

are the API and library supported / recognised by the developer?

because Transformice itself doesn't seem to provide access to any API

[sand goblet]

Transformice does not want bots, yeah

I used to play that

it's been a big issue for some time

[gentle moss]

they provide a module API for creating idk

custom modes or whatever

but it seems they're very much against botting

[sand goblet]

precisely, yeah

[low shadow]

oh

i cant understand the game

i get chesse

next level

if i die i cant revive

[sand goblet]

yeah, and one player is the shaman and may place blocks and stuff

[low shadow]

and i need to follow shaman

haha

[rough sapphire]

wah. dropped my phone on its face on the floor

the screen didn't shatter but it went blank :<

now i have to leave the thing in a charger for the rest of eternity until i can get a new phone

huh. phone prices have come down.

a new phone with better specs costs less than what i paid for mine a year ago or so

[low shadow]

u dont have phone cover, saves from fall damage

@rough sapphire

[rough sapphire]

i do have.

i have one on both sides.

[low shadow]

with that there shouldnt be much damage

i drop lot of times from table

still it works

[rough sapphire]

that's what I was hoping for too

[low shadow]

hmm

bye will talk later

[hollow leaf]

Otter Boxes can suppress very high shock damage/impacts.

[stuck meteor]

Hi. the ByteArray module is a Python implementation of the AS3 ByteArray

Does someone know anything about it?

I cant find the module download page

[rough sapphire]

what's an otter box

🦦 ?

[hollow leaf]

What is an otterbox. A phone case.

[rough sapphire]

the logo has an otter on it. cool

[oak tangle]

@sand goblet

[sand goblet]

Oh my god

I see

I bet this was only entertaining a few times if you're seeing them everywhere

[oak tangle]

They've been slowly increasing in numbers for 20 years

The first time I saw one I thought it was an escaped pet

Which, to be fair, is likely the source

[sand goblet]

Yeah, that's true

Are they having any adverse effects?

[gentle moss]

an increase in renditions of the parrot sketch

[rough sapphire]

installed a postgresql database on my brandnew linux server. what do?

want to do something cool

[low shadow]

just create a database with all your credentials in it, like this ```
name email password Google Generator Key // (THESE ARE COLUMNS, add more column if u want)

backup the .sql file, encrypt it, if u ever forget your password use that .sql file @rough sapphire

i do same because i have different pass for different websites , and i signed up in lot of site so i do the same method instead of remembering all

[rough sapphire]

not a horrible idea to build that system yourself honestly

[low shadow]

also i havent deleted my database in mySQL so if someone has access i am ruined

[rough sapphire]

but i've been using lastpass since it automatically syncs to your phone too

[low shadow]

i was just giving some tips

anyways

u could try more with DBMS

[rough sapphire]

i was thinking about doing some DB programming

but that's apparently a trap

[low shadow]

ok

[rough sapphire]

the languages that come with databases are full-fledged programming languages

[low shadow]

MySQL like language+Python like language are full fledged programming language?

when they are mixed

both python and sql stuff

[rough sapphire]

well python in itself is

but you could do most of the stuff without python completely if you really wanted to too

[low shadow]

ok

[rough sapphire]

but that leads to weird situations

[low shadow]

when is corona going to end, i m tired of sitting behind computer

or staying at home

[rough sapphire]

🤷

[low shadow]

I am feeling to explore the world

go around the world in 80 days

the movie and novel both are awesome

[soft violet]

Well, the more people are either out and about or otherwise cross mingling the longer it's going to go on. It's a pretty simple equation.

and since enough people are being freedom warriors about it all, we all have to live and die with the consequences

We're over a year away from any kind of proper return to normalcy.

That's being generous.

We may never get a viable vaccine. We may only ever get a treatment and drug protocol.

[rough sapphire]

the return to normalcy should happen if the virus doesn't mutate and most of the people on this ball we call earth have gone through the disease so we basically have group immunity

even without vaccines

[soft violet]

Immunity isn't a given.

[rough sapphire]

it's not but i think they've established it

[soft violet]

I read a case where someone caught it three times.

[rough sapphire]

i think those are false positives.

[soft violet]

Viruses can be tricky. They get up to all sorts of tricks.

[rough sapphire]

or maybe in some rare cases the immunity doesn't kick in but

in general we can hope for it i think

[soft violet]

Hope's fine. It's just not a good idea to rely on things as givens.

[rough sapphire]

but things will return to normal. eventually.

[soft violet]

Consider measles, I think it is. Detrains your immune system.

[rough sapphire]

🤷 what can we do at this point

work hard to fight the virus and hope

[soft violet]

Shingles. Stays dormant for years then comes and says hello.

[rough sapphire]

there's no reason to panic

keep calm and carry on

👨‍🚒👩‍🚒

[low shadow]

can anyone tell the difference between casting to integer (int) something vs using atoi() in C?

[rough sapphire]

atoi means ascii to integer

[soft violet]

I'm not panicking. I'm frustrated at people. It's a lack of preparedness, plain and simple. We could have all had this solved months ago. But no. Say if everyone just stayed home. If everyone had the support and reserves to do so. Limited essential movement outside of that. Done. Dusted.

[low shadow]

so if pass 123

as argument

[rough sapphire]

@soft violet this has more to do with china. they let this thing get out of hand. they hid information and misled people.

[low shadow]

then in this code

int fd = atoi( argv[1] )

[soft violet]

A whole bunch of us let it get out of hand. But yes. That, too.

[low shadow]

what would be output

[rough sapphire]

@low shadow atoi tries to parse integers from chars yes. it doesn't do any conversions between data types strictly speaking.

[low shadow]

can u tell me what will be the output when 1, 11, and 111 is given

so i can understand

[graceful basin]

@low shadow atoi is for "strings" to ints, (int) is for float, double, ints of different sizes and such

[low shadow]

if(argc<2){
printf("pass argv[1] a number\n");
return 0;

is there in code too

@graceful basin

[rough sapphire]

@soft violet if china had done their job properly, the problem would have been contained in wuhan and probably stayed there.

[low shadow]

coded by someone else

[graceful basin]

argv is the command line args passed to the program

argc is the number of these args

[low shadow]

yes i know

what if i pass 1 then 11 then 111 what would be output

[rough sapphire]

have you tried...?

[low shadow]

i m not in linux

i m using windows

[rough sapphire]

@low shadow you can do it on windows too. install a compiler.

[graceful basin]

you can compile C on windows, unless it uses posix stuff

or use WSL

[low shadow]

thats again a long story, see its one liner, it would take lot of time to compile install and the other stuf

int fd = atoi( argv[1] )

[graceful basin]

./compiledthing 2
``` would make fd the integer `2`

[low shadow]

so whatever number i pass i get same

[rough sapphire]

not sure what it does with non-integers

[low shadow]

ok

[rough sapphire]

or how it behaves with non-number characters

[low shadow]

so whatever number i pass i get same
@low shadow is it true with signed integer

[graceful basin]

I think it returns -1 and maybe sets ERRNO

[soft violet]

See, I'd just use ord

Or whatever. It's ord, yeah?

[low shadow]

no how can it return random numbers when file descriptors are 0 , 1 and 2

[graceful basin]

On success, the function returns the converted integral number as an int value.
If the converted value would be out of the range of representable values by an int, it causes undefined behavior. See strtol for a more robust cross-platform alternative when this is a possibility.
returns 0 if invalid conversion

[rough sapphire]

@soft violet no.

[graceful basin]

If the first sequence of non-whitespace characters in str is not a valid integral number, or if no such sequence exists because either str is empty or it contains only whitespace characters, no conversion is performed and zero is returned.

http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/cstdlib/atoi/

[rough sapphire]

it returns any integer even if it's "123456789"

[low shadow]

can i share the link

<@&267629731250176001>

its related to exploitation

!rule 5 (for some people it may break , for some it maynt)

[soft violet]

I'm confused.

[low shadow]

ok letme clear

it

i m sharing

https://research.checkpoint.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/pwnable_writeup.pdf

see page 13

[oak tangle]

What's up?

[low shadow]

everythings fine

there it reads from file descriptor

[sand goblet]

This seems to be actual educational material

[low shadow]

but file descriptor are 0 , 1 and 2 right, so how can it return 1232341 or any other number

[sand goblet]

So I'm not sure why it'd be problematic

[low shadow]

So I'm not sure why it'd be problematic
@sand goblet related to pwning

[soft violet]

Such a technical term.

[sand goblet]

I was just thinking that, such a useless term haha

[graceful basin]

well. there are 3 default fds, stdout, stdin, stderr

[low shadow]

yes

[rough sapphire]

atoi: Parses the C-string str interpreting its content as an integral number, which is returned as a value of type int.

[graceful basin]

but you can create more

[low shadow]

but the code says give number as an arugment

if(argc<2){ printf("pass argv[1] a number\n"); return 0;

[rough sapphire]

i was talking about atoi in general

[low shadow]

ok

[graceful basin]

and I think you can give your fds to other processes

[low shadow]

can file descriptor 3 work?

this page says

https://research.checkpoint.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/pwnable_writeup.pdf

page 14

[soft violet]

Atoi sounds like the name of some secretive mystic warriors in a fantasy setting. The Atoi. Has a ring to it.

[low shadow]

The program fd would compute 4663-0x1234 = 3 , read 32 bytes from the file associated with file descriptor 3 (that’s read from here.txt ), see that it is the correct value LETMEWIN and print the flag. There are two prob...

how does fd 3 work when there are 0,1 and 2

[graceful basin]

there are other file descriptors

when you create them

[low shadow]

so if 0,1,2 are used 3,4,5 work as 0,1,2 ?

then 3 = stdin, 4= stdout and 5 = stderr

?

[graceful basin]

no, a file descriptor can be anything you can read/write from

well, it is always a number

but what it is reading/writing from is not described

[low shadow]

then if it can be anything how can i recognize something is meant for input while other for error and output

[graceful basin]

well, you are told what 0, 1, 2 mean. You cannot have a function that determines whether a given fd is stdin or something else for example

[low shadow]

ok

[graceful basin]

and you can redirect 0, 1, 2 as well with > < |

in cmd/bash

[low shadow]

ok

[soft violet]

I get a lot of use out of > and |. Not so much <.

>> occasionally

[low shadow]

if i supply int fd = atoi( argv[1] ) - 0x1234; argv as 4669 then will 9 becomes stdin????????? since 0x1234 is 4660 , so 4669 - 4660 = 9 and fd becomes 9 when read is called int len = read(fd, buf, 32);

[graceful basin]

no, you are just reading from a nonexistent fd. I am not sure what happens then

[low shadow]

in this pdf, the author uses 3 as file descriptor so maybe i can use 9 too since any number can be used as file descriptor

when he talks about supplying 4663

[graceful basin]

he talks about the 3 as a theoretical situation if that program were different

[low shadow]

oh

i need to https://www.offensive-security.com/offsec/say-try-harder/

[soft violet]

If at first you don't succeed, try try try again.

[low shadow]

thats why this song is awesome

[soft violet]

Song?

[low shadow]

the link has song

[soft violet]

I haven't been looking.

[rough sapphire]

i found a cat video on the internet! it has cats! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hckJOIPG1tE

[undone berry]

what the fuck are those cats

[rough sapphire]

@undone berry they are p. cool

[tight meadow]

who uses windows am i right?

[noble zephyr]

anyone know any good begginer web projects?

@ me

[noble zephyr]

with html, css, js

etc

no py

[rough sapphire]

make a site

[noble zephyr]

comedian

[rough sapphire]

well

What you think you can do with html, css and js?

Etherpad is written in Node, so JS-wise, probably a lot.

He wants a web project

Etherpad is a web project.

well, it's a site isn't it?

What's the difference between web project and a website?

I don't know

He asked for a project

I said him to make a site

[rough sapphire]

wires crossed lol

[stuck meteor]

guysssss

why 10 in base2 is 1010

10%2 = 0
5%2 = 1
2%2 = 0
1%2 = 1

shouldnt it be 0101 (101) ?

[graceful basin]

when you use iterated division like that, the last result is the most significant digit

[fervent dock]

(1*8)+(0*4)+(1*2)+(0*1)

[stuck meteor]

so its little endian?

[rough sapphire]

0, 1, 10, 11, 100, 101, 110, 111, 1000, 1001, 1010

[fervent dock]

big endian is MSB first right?

[graceful basin]

Endianness generally refers to the order of bytes, not bits

[night prism]

hi just came here to say I use windows btw

[errant wyvern]

cool

same

apt broke

[night prism]

windows + wsl is the move

[tacit flint]

windows - wsl is the move

[graceful basin]

WSL is nice for emacs

my attempts at getting emacs to work on windows were env variable hell

[tacit flint]

can't relate
use win 7

[sand goblet]

emacs works OK on windows, but it's even slower than it is on windows

[rough sapphire]

@tacit flint Why would you use an OS that's EOL?

[tacit flint]

because I use hardware that is EOL

[rough sapphire]

That doesn't make sense. Linux runs on a lot of old hardware.

[gentle moss]

a computer that runs Win7, depending on spec, should be able to run Win10

[tacit flint]

i liek windsows

[soft violet]

Windows Fartpig.

It's an obscure edition.

[tacit flint]

well theoretically my laptop can run windows 10

[gentle moss]

at any rate you should stop using Win7

[tacit flint]

win 10 just feels slow on my laptop

windows 10 can't give me 1gb ram usage at idle

[gentle moss]

:3

close... oh so close.

[sand goblet]

do people usually have their RAM usage that low?

[stark prawn]

13gb is absolutly massive, most consumers don't have that much.

[proud bobcat]

All i have open is Discord, the Epic Games Launcher, and Origin lol

[gentle moss]

i'm usually sat around 14gb when i've got all my shit running

but that includes a VM with 4gb of ram

[sand goblet]

you're at 1.9GiB with a second OS running

so that seems fine

[rough sapphire]

👀

[stark prawn]

Lowest I've been able to get it without putting in any real effort is 40mb

[sand goblet]

I mean hey, if we're posting linux shots

[rough sapphire]

... 40MB RAM usage?

[stark prawn]

Yes.

[rough sapphire]

VPS or something?

[stark prawn]

It was

[tacit flint]

lowest I've been able to get is 200mb
20% on a 1 gb win7 machine

[sand goblet]

yeah, 40MiB is about the lowest I've seen as well

using a minimal ubuntu server install on a VPS

[gentle moss]

oh no g, that's idle

as in, nothing open

[rough sapphire]

Smallest right now is my ZNC

[gentle moss]

small ram weird flex

anyone got less RAM?

[rough sapphire]

I think that one's like $5/month or something, so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stark prawn]

I have some 128mb lying around bisk, but it doesn't fit my current pc 😦

[gentle moss]

this is the point where i expect xx to have some root'd iot device with like 16mb of ram

[tacit flint]

lol

[rough sapphire]

you fuck

i was literally just doing that

[tacit flint]

then this is the point where i expect a microcontroller with like 4kb of ram

[rough sapphire]

for some reason it's not respecting -m flag with free though

[gentle moss]

you're too predictable

the most ram

the least ram

[tacit flint]

i like being predictable

[low shadow]

why is my gdb showing <func> instead of gets and puts

when i examine manually by x/1i $eip

i get gets and puts

[tacit flint]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/353934937746964480/711892500885012561/FB_IMG_1589798711703.jpg

[rough sapphire]

we've had honey leak out of outlets before

[sand goblet]

Poison sockets are full of poison

[gentle moss]

switch them off

clearly there's a lot of current in those sockets

watter terrible situation to be in

[fossil sonnet]

Hello

[oak tangle]

Hello, @fossil sonnet

[fossil sonnet]

How are you?

[oak tangle]

I'm fine, bit sleepy

How are you?

[fossil sonnet]

Im good

[oak tangle]

Nice.

[fossil sonnet]

really bored tho

During this quarantine i did everything i was capable of

[sand goblet]

there's always more

:>

[low shadow]

how do i dump memory into file

well the dump command in man page is for dumping file system

dump - ext2/3/4 filesystem backup

and the guy dumped

from memory using dump memory dump1 0x400000 0x6ea000 //dump memory range from 0x400000 to 0x6ea000

which doesnt work in my computer because my dump command is for filesystem not memory , so how can i dump, is there some other tool, i tried rmt-dump and failed

[plucky ridge]

Why are you trying to dump memory?

[low shadow]

to get the flag

[plucky ridge]

Oh you're doing a CTF thing?

[low shadow]

the flag is in memory and the binary is obsfucated

[plucky ridge]

Neat

[rough sapphire]

why not attach to the binary via gdb and set a breakpoint to wherever the flag is in a deobfuscated state

gdb can dump memory fine

[low shadow]

ok

i m thinking of setting breakpoint, attach gdb to process pid and dumping lets see if that works

hmm

if i got it

got that flag

[sand goblet]

oh man, this thing is amazing https://realfavicongenerator.net/

generate a favicon, apple touch icon, safari touch bar icon, android icon and chrome PWA settings, metro/Edge pinned site icon and settings..

and the HTML that goes with it

[solid pollen]

Oh that's great

So now we have a favicon haha

[sand goblet]

A bit more than a favicon haha

[hollow leaf]

ooo ASM

[sand goblet]

where

[solid pollen]

In kali I guess

[rough sapphire]

switches are finally here and soldered

ballin'

[stuck meteor]

Does someone know how to decipher XXTea?

DELTA = 0x9e3779b9


def xxtea_encode(v, n, key):
    """https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XXTEA"""
    cycles = 6 + 52 // n
    sum_ = 0
    z = v[-1]
    for _ in range(cycles):
        sum_ = (sum_ + DELTA) & 0xffffffff
        e = sum_ >> 2 & 3
        for p in range(n):
            y = v[(p + 1) % n]
            z = v[p] = (v[p] + (
                ((z >> 5 ^ y << 2) + (y >> 3 ^ z << 4)) ^ ((sum_ ^ y) + (key[(p & 3) ^ e] ^ z))
            )) & 0xffffff

Lmao that's impossible

[pine vector]

@rough sapphire very nice! 👏

[rough sapphire]

thanks

and i just tested, it works beautifully

now i literally just need 8 m2 screws to attach the bottom plate

[plucky ridge]

@rough sapphire That's really stylish looking

Nice job

[solid pollen]

Yup, that's looking pretty good

[plucky ridge]

Were the resistors soldered by you as well or were those already on the board?

[rough sapphire]

i got the pcb manufactured and sent separately

everything on it is soldered by me

shit job

but i guess not too awful for a first ever soldering job

[plucky ridge]

I mean the only one that looks liffy is the top row, second from the right

The others look great

[rough sapphire]

i'm just happy i didn't burn anything out

[plucky ridge]

Yeah it's not an easy thing, that's for sure

I almost made a watch battery explode in my hands when I was repairing a SNES cart

[rough sapphire]

also just so you know, those are diodes

[plucky ridge]

Oh huh

I don't know why I thought resistors

Oh pff

Well now that I zoom in

[polar vigil]

I setup django website into digitalocean and I made ip tracker there. Now I started seeing some weird stuff happing in there like they tried to go to this location: http://www.mysite.com/?a=fetch&content=<php>die(@md5(HelloThinkCMF))%3C/php%3E

is this some type of vunerablity test?

[rough sapphire]

@polar vigil automated bots trying to scan your site for vulns

every site gets these

set up fail2ban

[polar vigil]

ok

Thank you for telling me that.

[rough sapphire]

Are there any good iOS dev servers?

[north glen]

yeah I don't like getting microsoft either

[sand goblet]

It has a product key on it

Might wanna mosaic that or something

[plucky ridge]

Deleted for the reason stated

Probably didn't want to have your product key just out willy nilly

[thorn snow]

ffs

There is nothing you can do with a stone old vista key @plucky ridge

[plucky ridge]

Says you

But yeah, fair point

Not like I infracted you for it, just trying to cover your butt

[rough sapphire]

oh man, kinda glad the state of emergency ended today

finally, the horrible 2m distance rule is over, and us estonians can go back to the usual 5m distance

[stuck meteor]

hi there

Can someone tell me why the login key should be 0x00121d15?

And also the handshake

[rough sapphire]

login key seems to start at offset 0x15 and the handshake num from 0x19

endianess is swapped

[stuck meteor]

hmm , where is 0x19?

[rough sapphire]

at... 0x19...

there are guides on the left side of the dump

so 9th byte in the second row

[stuck meteor]

still didnt figure out where he took 121d15

[rough sapphire]

sorry, 0x14 and 0x18

can't count today

@stuck meteor second row, fifth byte

it goes 15 1d 12 00

swap the endianess and you get 0x00121d15

[stuck meteor]

oh got it

[rough sapphire]

is anyone familiar with the acsm format

I bought this ebook online and it downloads as an ascm format, but can't seem to use any of the links within the book

[cursive cedar]

yall have an rsps

?

[sand goblet]

really simple potato system

rather see proper salamis

running slow, peeling slow

ridiculously speedy penguin slide

raunchy spandex pleases santa

RSPS @cursive cedar?

[cursive cedar]

the title

[sand goblet]

oh, the channel name?

All the off-topic channel names are insider jokes, there's no actual RS private server

[stuck meteor]

how to run a javascript code in the browser console with python?

idk if its even possible

[low shadow]

My dirty old laptop

looks like i need to become engineer now to fix my laptop

[gentle moss]

cracked hinge.

hot glue or epoxy

had to repair that sort of thing before

[low shadow]

how to pass nullbyte in program as arugment

[rough sapphire]

you can't pass nullbytes as arguments as those are used as terminators within exec()

you can pipe them, though

[low shadow]

the CTF demands nullbyte

there must be some way

// argv if(argc != 100) return 0; if(strcmp(argv['A'],"\x00")) return 0; if(strcmp(argv['B'],"\x20\x0a\x0d")) return 0; printf("Stage 1 clear!\n");

$() removes the nullbyte

[rough sapphire]

ha... trick ctf challenge

[low shadow]

i use python to gen

[rough sapphire]

hint: you don't need to pass nullbytes manually :)

[low shadow]

manually means using python

or by keyboard

[rough sapphire]

either

you can use python as a solution to this issue

[low shadow]

oh

god

what a CTF

[rough sapphire]

anyone here?

i need help, i posted in #help-cookie

[low shadow]

even this doesnt work

@rough sapphire

Traceback (most recent call last): File "py.py", line 9, in <module> subprocess.run(cmd,shell=True) File "/usr/lib/python3.5/subprocess.py", line 693, in run with Popen(*popenargs, **kwargs) as process: File "/usr/lib/python3.5/subprocess.py", line 947, in __init__ restore_signals, start_new_session) File "/usr/lib/python3.5/subprocess.py", line 1490, in _execute_child restore_signals, start_new_session, preexec_fn) ValueError: embedded null byte

[rough sapphire]

@low shadow that won't work anyways

[low shadow]

why

i tried replacing \0 with \x00 but still error

[rough sapphire]

argv is null-terminated

[low shadow]

ok

[rough sapphire]

which means that \0 at index 64 will make argc 64 bytes long

which fails the first check

[low shadow]

ok i m still trying

[rough sapphire]

actually, wait, i'm wrong

\0 isn't NULL

[low shadow]

isnt NULL and \0 same

?

[rough sapphire]

nop

NULL is a pointer

\0 is a null char

[low shadow]

ok

[rough sapphire]

so you can actually have null chars in the middle of argv

your code should, in theory, work. Try using exec() calls directly via libc instead of subprocess

[low shadow]

ok

[stark prawn]

O dang, trump has been self medicating against corona....

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52717161

[low shadow]

oh shit

OH SHIT , maybe he has strong fear

[gentle moss]

@stark prawn

it's even "worse" than that

he already has heart disease

[low shadow]

@rough sapphire exec() of bash or C or which lang

[gentle moss]

so he's in the vulnerable group for taking hydroxychloroquine

since it can cause heart problems

[low shadow]

python exec() is useless

[sand goblet]

in your opinion.

[rough sapphire]

he's the President of the US.. I'm sure he's already got the best drugs

[low shadow]

yes i got the best drugs

[gentle moss]

the drugs given to people with heart disease interact with hydroxychloroquine.

[rough sapphire]

how do I type.. the best and imply it's how he says it

[gentle moss]

:P

he's one tough shit and a twitter rant away from a heart attack

[stark prawn]

"If it doesn't cure me it doesn't hurt me." Or however that saying translates to english.

[rough sapphire]

anyone who eats mcD often and guzzles down coke every day is sure to be already at risk for heart ailments

[stark prawn]

What doesn't kill me makes me stronger I guess.

[gentle moss]

yeah

i mean, to be fair to him, he's actually in the average for white american men of his age

so he's not abnormal.

in terms of his heart disease, that is.

[rough sapphire]

hmm I don't know.. they don't have that long of a life expectancy

[low shadow]

how do i get first quote instead of second from my keyboard

wait i will zoom

[rough sapphire]

@rough sapphire exec() of bash or C or which lang
@low shadow libc's exec

you can acccess it via ctypes

[low shadow]

so C

<ctypes.h>

[rough sapphire]

from ctypes import libc

[low shadow]

from libc import ctypes ?

[rough sapphire]

hmm

i forgot how i did it

sec

[sand goblet]

you got it right, hax

from ctypes import libc

although what libc means depends on your OS

I think you could only import it like that in python 2

[rough sapphire]

hmmm

[sand goblet]

so it's like ```py

Windows

from ctypes import cdll

libc = cdll.msvcrt
py

Linux

from ctypes import cdll

libc = cdll.LoadLibrary("libc.so.6")

[rough sapphire]

my code generator does this

import ctypes
c = ctypes.CDLL(None)
call = c.memfd_create
fd = call('', 1)
``` yada yada

you can adapt this to exec

[sand goblet]

you can use CDLL too yeah

[low shadow]

ok

and i saw that quotes are different,

do somekeyboard support first quote while other keyboard support second?

[gentle moss]

uh

keyboards should have " ' and backtick (broken on my laptop)

[sand goblet]

No, both quotes should be on all keyboards

' and " that is

[low shadow]

wait i will try backtick too

[stark prawn]

!charinfo "'`

[royal lake]

Character Info

\u0022 : QUOTATION MARK - "
\u0027 : APOSTROPHE - '
\u0060 : GRAVE ACCENT - `

Raw

\u0022\u0027\u0060

[gentle moss]

grave, i always forget

[sand goblet]

most keybords do have backtick, but some of them use it as an accent key

well forgetting is a grave mistake, bisk

[gentle moss]

it's funny because my grave is in the grave

rip grave. :(

[rough sapphire]

forgetting that is the final nail in your coffin, mate

[stark prawn]

I've been on windows machines where I had to follow up a ` with a space in order to actually write it out.

[sand goblet]

yeah, that's what I mean by an accent key

[rough sapphire]

yep

[sand goblet]

I use UK standard qwerty layout so mine doesn't do that

[rough sapphire]

estonian keyboard needs you to press it twice

[gentle moss]

probably a language setting

yeah

[sand goblet]

if you use UK extended then it's an accent key

[stark prawn]

On other notes, I recently had a new latpop and windows didnt' default it to the dutch keyboard. That's a win.

I'm convinced that they don't exist, never seen one.

But everyone seems to have problems with their pc sometimes switching to that layout.

[low shadow]

first is weird quote second is normal quote third is backtick

[stark prawn]

Do a charinfo on the first one.

[low shadow]

!charinfo ’'`

[royal lake]

You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

[sand goblet]

looks like a fronttick

[stark prawn]

!charinfo ’'`

[royal lake]

Character Info

\u2019 : RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK - ’
\u0027 : APOSTROPHE - '
\u0060 : GRAVE ACCENT - `

Raw

\u2019\u0027\u0060

[low shadow]

looks like escaping is weird

[stark prawn]

right single quotation mark.

[sand goblet]

oh, it's a unicode quote

[solid pollen]

They are quotations marks, it is what you have on mobile keyboard most of the time

[low shadow]

/u2019 and /u0027 are same by eyes

wait

[solid pollen]

Nope they aren’t

[stark prawn]

Did you guys see that android 10 policy updates will break termux 😦

!e
print("\u2019\u0027")

!e
print("\u2019\u0027")

[royal lake]

@stark prawn :white_check_mark: Your eval job has completed with return code 0.

’'

[low shadow]

!charinfo \’

[royal lake]

You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

[stark prawn]

Definetly quite different

[low shadow]

oh thats what i m talking

[solid pollen]

Did you guys see that quallcomm are dumbass and don’t want to release drivers for android 10 :/

[low shadow]

so the weird quote is /u2019

[stark prawn]

No quallcomm drivers for android 10? huh.

[low shadow]

and normal apostrophe and double quote from same key are 0027

[solid pollen]

Only ' is used for string litterals too in python

Yup, they wont release any :/

At least for my cpu

[low shadow]

oh

what a weird caracter

[stark prawn]

Oh, how old is yours?

[solid pollen]

2 years I think

I’m checking

[stark prawn]

Dang that's not old at all.

Although updates on android rarely go farther than 3 years sadly.

[solid pollen]

The ohone was released in May 3, 2018

[plucky ridge]

Sort of makes sense considering how quickly the tech evolves

But still lame

[solid pollen]

I’m looking for the CPU

CPU was 10/17/2017

So young 😦

[plucky ridge]

I'm confused, so you're looking for a CPU driver for your Android os?

[stark prawn]

I guess for custom roms.

[gentle moss]

i can't imagine it'd be a problem for stock devices

[plucky ridge]

Why did I think that CPUs didn't have drivers....

[solid pollen]

No no, for the android stock

Asus doesn’t have any drivers

So.. no android 10

[plucky ridge]

You're not really missing much

Second verse same as the first

[gentle moss]

you got a link to anything on this?

[low shadow]

!charinfo /x00

[royal lake]

You are not allowed to use that command here. Please use the #bot-commands channel instead.

[solid pollen]

Oh well, they released them, the update is being beta tested since April 29

Nevermind then I guess

[low shadow]

OMG nullbyte is represented as ^@

[gentle moss]

was going to say, it's not like qualcomm to drop support for such new tech

[stark prawn]

Welp, they just came to pickup my laptop. Hopefully they'll repair it without hassle.

[solid pollen]

They took their time though

[plucky ridge]

@stark prawn What's going on with it?

[stark prawn]

Got it new 2 weeks ago aftger my old one broke.
Came with a faulty ssd.

[plucky ridge]

"Sir, we can't fix this. Your laptop is filled with peanut butter."

[stark prawn]

Between 4 mins and 2 hours of use before it stops responding.

Very annoying to diagnose.

[plucky ridge]

Should be no muss no fusss

Wait, and the SMART didn't show any errors?

[stark prawn]

Since if the ssd isn't responding you don't get any logs written about that 😛

[plucky ridge]

Ahhh gotcha

[stark prawn]

The smart doesn't no.

But in between it not responding anymore and the blue screen It stops showing up in file exporer etc.

[gentle moss]

i'd wager it's a chipset or connector issue

quick motherboard replacement should do the trick

[stark prawn]

Perhaps it's just not in 100%

But I wasn't going to open up a 1 week old laptop and risk losing warranty.

[gentle moss]

not worth busting the warranty with a self-repair

yeah

[plucky ridge]

Leave it to them. If they fuck it up, it's still on them to fix it

That's why I have most of my car stuff done by the dealership

Costs a bit more, but if shit breaks, I know who to blame and who will fix it

[stark prawn]

I figured it out in the end by just puttin it off to the side and having dmesg logs output to the screen.

[plucky ridge]

Oh bad ass

I wouldn't have thought of that

[stark prawn]

Also another fun bug I found.
BIOS doens't open up if refind was selected as the first boot device :/

But I can handle that.

[low shadow]

somebody pytho-help boron

plz

i got the help

that was a tough job

[stark prawn]

Please note the advice I gave you afterwards though 😛

[low shadow]

ok

why is friday the 13 so bad

is it because my lucky no is 13

thats a superstition

that isnt removed from society yet

also: is x64 same as x86_64

[rough sapphire]

x64 can refer to both amd64 and intel 64

does schema change in server logs

[low shadow]

ok

[rough sapphire]

like, if you're capturing some schema now and you fix the headers for it, can you expect the schema to change later?

[low shadow]

vim is not a WYSIWYG right

[rough sapphire]

definitely not

[plucky ridge]

Why You Shouldn't Itch With Your Gun

[sand goblet]

..lol

[rough sapphire]

👏

[plucky ridge]

Quite proud of that one, actually

[low shadow]

ok

[gentle moss]

i just see "what you see isn't what you get"

[plucky ridge]

Guys guys guys

[low shadow]

there is a similar

[plucky ridge]

I just thought of an awesome name for an energy drink brand

[low shadow]

YAFIYGI

[plucky ridge]

"A Nap in a Can"

[gentle moss]

"Nap-alarm"

[undone berry]

The problem is that nap sounds calm and peaceful

energy drink=headache inducing. nap=headache fixing

[low shadow]

taurine is calming, however caffeine+sugar makes it stimulating (not liked by much)

taking taurine supplement is better than energy drink

[plucky ridge]

Unless you like the taste

[gentle moss]

taurine can cause nausea, dizziness and headaches

[plucky ridge]

Which honestly it's kind of grown on me

[gentle moss]

just to highlight its side-effects

[undone berry]

taurine also has the complete opposite effect of energy drinks as a whole

[low shadow]

still it has affinity for GABA

which is calming

[undone berry]

either way

[plucky ridge]

Yo gaba gaba?

[undone berry]

this is a shitty conversation - no one cares about taurine as a drug

[low shadow]

this is a shitty conversation - no one cares about taurine as a drug
@undone berry it isnt a drug

[gentle moss]

yes it is.

[plucky ridge]

Well that went 0 to 60 in no time flat

[gentle moss]

because it is.

[low shadow]

its a protein

[undone berry]

don't take the bait

[low shadow]

found in differnt food

[gentle moss]

this is going to end in a stupid conversation

[low shadow]

semi-essential amino acid

[rough sapphire]

ahem

taurine is extracted from bull nuts

r3al fax

[plucky ridge]

THAT'S why I like it so much

That explains it

[low shadow]

and animal meat too

[undone berry]

You really should find something else to be interested in than drugs https://www.reddit.com/user/machinexa/submitted/

[low shadow]

i told u it not drug

[plucky ridge]

Dude

[gentle moss]

you're not a doctor

or medical researcher.

[undone berry]

how can you spend so much time

[plucky ridge]

Therapeutic agent; any substance, other than food, used in the prevention, diagnosis, alleviation, treatment, or cure of disease.

[gentle moss]

you have no authority to say what is or isn't.

[undone berry]

posting shit about drugs on Reddit

and not know the meaning of the word drug

[gentle moss]

and at the end of the day

the dictionary wins this argument.

end of discussion

[plucky ridge]

Another definition is anything that causes a physiological or pshychological change in the body

[low shadow]

He is Carlos Tello PhD (Molecular Biology) Carlos received his PhD and MS from the Universidad de Sevilla.

[undone berry]

oh god

[low shadow]

its written by him https://selfhacked.com/blog/taurine-benefits/

[plucky ridge]

Yeah that's the one I was trying to find, bisk

[undone berry]

I regret starting this conversation

[gentle moss]

heeereee we go.

right, i'm going to do some washing up.

[wheat lynx]

Carlos Tello lotto lies

[undone berry]

I feel like I've made the world a worse place. I'm just going to close Discord

[plucky ridge]

@wheat lynx HOW did I miss that one!

[wheat lynx]

I couldn't not say that 😄

[plucky ridge]

Oh absolutely!

I'm just mad at me for missing it

[low shadow]

why isnt shellshock ssh server printing its vulnerable(doing CTF)

[plucky ridge]

Will the net ever fully adopt (and I mean across the board and make it the primary) IPv6?

Because god I wish it would

[sand goblet]

I suspect it'll have no choice

[plucky ridge]

Sure but when

[rough sapphire]

10 years

give or take

[plucky ridge]

It's been around for 25 years at this point

[sand goblet]

my network is ready for it, but not all networks are

my work network for example is basically unmanageable with ipv6, even though our isp supports it

their shitty router makes it impossible to address anything locally

[plucky ridge]

Is it rented from the ISP?

[sand goblet]

it's an ISP router, I'm not sure who owns it

[rough sapphire]

our work's internal network is IPv6 only, and so is my local network (for the most part)

[sand goblet]

it's made by this company I'd never heard of called Sagemcom

[plucky ridge]

Man

PS4 doesn't have ipv6 support

Why is it that when there's a no brainer standard to go to, everyone seems to drag their heels?

[sand goblet]

it doesn't? that's crazy

ah, no

the PS4 does support IPV6

but a lot of apps and games don't

[plucky ridge]

Ah, I misread then

[sand goblet]

(including the built in web browser)

[plucky ridge]

The reddit link I read was 3 years old as well

[plucky ridge]

So duuuuuuuumb

[sand goblet]

it's weird that they somehow managed to pass this buck

like does the network stack not have a unified interface?

[plucky ridge]

Likely depends on the game servers themselves as well

If they don't support it, then there's no reason for the game to. And it might be detrimental if it did

I think

I never actually got a chance to study network stuff when I was in college

So much to learn, so little time....

[sand goblet]

hm, true

[lofty dirge]

sure but there is much that flips out with IPv6 so I could see Playstation 4 making sure it's disabled at network layer

[plucky ridge]

Is it not possible to have it run parallel? Or would that have too much overhead and collision

[sand goblet]

it's possible, yeah

[lofty dirge]

you can run IPv4/IPv6 dual stack but if application makes a DNS request for ipv6.google.com and gets IPv6 back, their regex will flip out

as SRE, the number of times I've wanted to strangle a developer over network comms is pretty high

and in game dev, I could see it being much higher

since they trying to get speed

[plucky ridge]

Nothing in computers can be simple, huh

[lofty dirge]

nope

also, there are ton of people trying to do NAT with IPv6 making stuff worse

[low shadow]

do port forwarding(easy for ipv6, i configured myself)

i never understood nat

[sand goblet]

IPv6 NAT is.. hnng

I mean I see why you might do it

but it's hard

[plucky ridge]

Isn't it unnecessary with v6?

[sand goblet]

yeees, but you might want to protect your network

[plucky ridge]

Like isn't that built into the spec?

Ah

[sand goblet]

because it means your devices are just out there

[solid pollen]

I always liked how my ISP give me an ipv4 and v6 haha

That's not how we are going to solve the IP issue haha

[tulip citrus]

Why is it that when there's a no brainer standard to go to, everyone seems to drag their heels?
@plucky ridge

Primarily because of cost to business. Same as why companies drag their feet to upgrade anything. Significant costs.

[lofty dirge]

NAT doesn't protect

it just adds default "Deny All" incoming rule

which any good firewall will have

[plucky ridge]

Fair point, Wren

It does all boil down to money and "Why should we do this? What we have now works fine"

[lofty dirge]

esp for network equipment which can run for years

at last job, we had customers just happy on Cisco ASA 5505 from 2008 in 2019

[gentle moss]

ahhhh

did they at least patch that massive vulnerability in it?

we retired a few ASA 55xx series because of that and a lack of willingness for customers to pay for a license to get the firmware patch

[lofty dirge]

bisk, knowing them, probably not

[rough sapphire]

What to do when your in a team and everyone is just slacking off

Except you of course

[gentle moss]

sounds classic @lofty dirge

does the cisco licensing model ever bother you?

@rough sapphire, keep a work log.

document the times you bring up stuff as a team, and who takes what, etc

[rough sapphire]

They expect you to do all the work.

[gentle moss]

i had this problem when i was at college studying music. team task with a teammate who did nothing and was useless.

so i did all the work, kept a log of what i'd done, and handed it in

[rough sapphire]

I have this problem right now. I am in a group with four the other three are just lazy.

[gentle moss]

the other guy wasn't able to speak to any of the body of work and there was a written record of him clearly not doing anything

[rough sapphire]

I had this problem a few days ago..

worked with some guys from MIT Harvard.. bla bla.. they all 'brainstormed' and did squat

we ended up not being able to finish a public project.. and I just ghosted them

I am messaging the other one. Cuz i have to do a roleplay with him when school starts. But he just left me on read.

[low shadow]

bash is shit, () { something } is a function but (){ something } isnt a function

[rough sapphire]

So you handled it differently

[low shadow]

I have this problem right now. I am in a group with four the other three are just lazy.
@Jonathan.K#3340 ROFL

[rough sapphire]

yes.. I didn't feel right doing work they would also get credit for.. so I just left

Bisk just accepted it and you ghosted them

This is exactly why lazy people are not my friends.

I used to accept it back when I was in college, I ended up getting the highest grade for a final project while the rest of my group got the next highest grade.. but now I don't think I can put up with that

[low shadow]

i m lazy

[rough sapphire]

This better not be the case when i have a job as a programmer.

[low shadow]

ok

[rough sapphire]

it probably will be

im lazy too and that helps.. but if you commit to something you should aim to finish it

[low shadow]

When i commit something i get MAD trying day and night until i get sick but i m too lazy to commit

extremely lazy to commit

[rough sapphire]

Keeping your word is important.

[low shadow]

yes

[gentle moss]

i didn't accept it btw

i was mad as hell, but i knew how to get him a worse mark because he didn't do the work

i ended up getting a distinction for the work and that dude failed.

[rough sapphire]

Report him

[gentle moss]

despite being a team effort individual efforts are tracked

this was over a decade ago

:D

[low shadow]

whats the use of thefuck there is no man page

and -h is useless

thefuck less

doesnt work

[rough sapphire]

And i am going through this now.😩

[gentle moss]

this is not an uncommon event in life*

but i mean, as i said, if you keep a decent record of who said or said they'd do what

and didn't deliver

idk, that was my way of dealing with it

[rough sapphire]

I like being a lonewolf but when i'm in a team everyone should do their best including me.

[undone berry]

this is not an uncommon event in your life
Schools, colleges, and universities know this will happen with groupwork

they expect it. Sometimes they just also don't care, sometimes they'll have formal systems in place to check it, sometimes you just have to whine to teachers/lecturers

[rough sapphire]

but i mean, as i said, if you keep a decent record of who said or said they'd do what
@gentle moss i did that in a recent project i did with the same group i am in now. One of them got mad at me🤣

[gentle moss]

well they should try harder

if they're moaning at you about them not doing work

they can get yote

yeeted

that's what the kids say these days isn't it

[rough sapphire]

they expect it. Sometimes they just also don't care, sometimes they'll have formal systems in place to check it, sometimes you just have to whine to teachers/lecturers
@undone berry yeah the teachers tell you to report to them if someone is slacking off. But they ain't doing anything about it.

[gentle moss]

the point is their feelings aren't the important part here, right?

it's your grades and shit

then when you present the work you can also present "oh, btw, look at this"

"these chumps only did like 20% of the work and left me hanging. i did my best to try and get them to pick up the work and they didn't give a toss."

[rough sapphire]

That's exactly my situation right now.

In times like these i remind myself : life is not fair, deal with it

[undone berry]

When doing groupwork, the only thing I expect of people is that they try and do what is explicitly asked of them

last time I got annoyed at someone was because I asked him to go buy board pens, and he just sat there on his phone

[gentle moss]

and that's kind of what i mean about keeping track of what others are doing

did the person do what was either explicitly asked of them or they offered to do

[lofty dirge]

Bisk, I’m no longer in that IT world

[gentle moss]

lucky for some ;)

[lofty dirge]

And yea, wasn’t a fan of Cisco model but in 2008, there wasn’t a lot of good options

[gentle moss]

true enough.

[lofty dirge]

That’s long since changed

[gentle moss]

Cisco or Juniper pretty much

we exclusively use netgate pfsense devices for big installs now

[plucky ridge]

What language does Cisco write his programs in?
🎶 Pythong th-thong thong thong 🎶

[gentle moss]

hah

now i'm just thinking of lemon's sexy thongsong cover

[plucky ridge]

He's a man of many talents

[thorn snow]

We only use Juniper

I personally like them a lot better than cisco

[gentle moss]

better than cisco

yeah, for sure

have you tried pfsense?

i feel i've asked this before

[thorn snow]

No we don't use that. Remember, data center, everything is Internet

Juniper's built-in firewall is enough to protect the routers

[gentle moss]

fair

[thorn snow]

and the hardware we have is performant enough to do it on their own 😄

[gentle moss]

netgate pfsense boxes are just little servers with BSD on tbh

cheaper and pretty damn good

[thorn snow]

I mean, it may be in use in the cloud or managed department, but I am network and we don't have it

[gentle moss]

makes sense.

i think we have one juniper somewhere as an ADSL failover

[thorn snow]

router

[gentle moss]

yes yes, you get the fun toys

:(

[thorn snow]

sorry 😛

it's not that much fun tbh, that thing is heavy and loud

[plucky ridge]

For a moment I thought it was an audio mixing board for some reason

[gentle moss]

https://www.netgate.com/solutions/pfsense/xg-1541.html

we've got 3 of these deployed at different locations

[thorn snow]

wanna know a simple and fun way to mitigate ddos?

[gentle moss]

cut the fibre

[thorn snow]

of every tcp connection, drop the first packet

incoming

[gentle moss]

hmm

can you expand on that a little?

[thorn snow]

The first package a new connection sends, is [S], so SYN

second is ACK

[gentle moss]

yeah

[thorn snow]

TCP resends lost packages if no tcp confirmation is sent

[gentle moss]

ahhh

but DDOS tools wont work like that

that's sneaky

[thorn snow]

so don't send confirm, drop SYN, client resends [S] if it was serious about the connection

[gentle moss]

nice

[gentle moss]

hey @plucky ridge

sometimes i wish people would...

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2yudu9

[plucky ridge]

Lil bit

It's irritating me, honestly

[gentle moss]

draaahhhppp it

[plucky ridge]

Can't do my job without it becoming a big deal

[gentle moss]

rubber neckers innit

[plucky ridge]

Not exactly

[thorn snow]

@plucky ridge Can't you run the commands hidden and force them into a chat where they can see the ban message?

[sand goblet]

They get a DM

[plucky ridge]

It makes more of a point to others to not do stupid shit if it's done in the channel where the incident happened

That's the intent, anyway

[thorn snow]

Then gotta live with the reactions tbf

[sand goblet]

would be nice if they'd wind their necks in though

[plucky ridge]

To a point. It's why I'm not doing anything about it

I think I still get to feel irritated about it, though

[gentle moss]

never expected you say "wind their necks in" tbh g

[sand goblet]

lily allen has an entire song about that

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj237UMeZqs

[gentle moss]

yeah i know

but it's very much not your type of slang

:D

[sand goblet]

it's good slang

[plucky ridge]

God damn it. This probably explains why my mood is tumbling

That's a HUGE weather front for my head to deal with

[thorn snow]

Isn't that like every day in UK?

[plucky ridge]

Sure but I'm not in the UK

[thorn snow]

Some random guy on Twitter to John Cleese: Do something about creaTION. I feel you and the @montypython lot never really touched on religion.

I lol'd

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/NeedyRadiantCowrie-size_restricted.gif

[gentle moss]

hah

he's not the messiah

he's a very naughty boy

[thorn snow]

John Cleese said about the movie, that they have been writing around the idea of being 5 minutes too late to the miracle

which equals being 2000 years too late

[gentle moss]

after they released it there was a lot of clapback in the UK (and around the world)

but the pythons did a great debate on UK TV with the Church of England

[thorn snow]

Yeah, I've linked that debate as a response to the guy

[gentle moss]

it's quite something. i'm not sure the church expected them to be so erudite

they are, after all, makers of silly things

[thorn snow]

silly walks especially

[gentle moss]

big fan of that. when i was taking drama classes as a kid i idolised the pythons

speaking of which, a 70's comedy sketch show in the UK did some jokes about python worship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asUyK6JWt9U

[thorn snow]

I've founded a steam group called Ministry of Silly Walks

[undone berry]

I literally had that copied

goddammit

[gentle moss]

hah

not the nine o'clock news is excellent

it's very UK centric, but i'd highly recommend those that haven't watched it watching it.

if they like that sort of thing

[charred burrow]

whoever recognises this string gets $1B: CPKTNWT

[sand goblet]

I'm pretty sure that's murder

[graceful basin]

probably

[gentle moss]

negligent homicide

[sand goblet]

Either way they're a fucking dick

[gentle moss]

i also find it pretty a not-cool topic to post about

[sand goblet]

Yeah definitely not appropriate here

But of course, snof is no newcomer to getting in trouble for that

<@&267629731250176001>?

[charred burrow]

called @timid latch over in dms

didn't want to bring any more trouble than needed

[sand goblet]

Oh, okay

They just tell me to ping mods haha

[timid latch]

better to ping the mods, for all you know I am bussy xD

[tame terrace]

oh dear.

[charred burrow]

oh deary me

[tame terrace]

!ban @gusty oar posting a meme that glorified intentionally letting a homeless drug addict die. you've had enough chances, get the fuck out forever.