#ot1-perplexing-regexing | Python | Page 390

sand goblet May 2, 2020, 11:08 PM

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haha

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well, good job I guess

ocean cipher May 2, 2020, 11:08 PM

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😎

rough sapphire May 2, 2020, 11:11 PM

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@sand goblet why are you writing kotlin

sand goblet May 2, 2020, 11:11 PM

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because kotlin is awesome

undone berry May 2, 2020, 11:11 PM

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wanna know what's not awesome: Android

rough sapphire May 2, 2020, 11:11 PM

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i mean that's always a reason to do anything but any specific reason?

sand goblet May 2, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Well I'm writing the bot for the kotlin server I'm working on

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but I'm not super experienced with kotlin so I'm still learning as I go

rough sapphire May 2, 2020, 11:12 PM

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so this kotlin thing is letting you do something better or easier than something else?

sand goblet May 2, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Kotlin is a language targeting primarily the JVM, but also with JS and native compilation targets

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I do like Java

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but

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Kotlin is so much better

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and I can use it in all my Java projects

rough sapphire May 3, 2020, 12:14 AM

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I do like Java
Don't lie to us, no one likes Java.

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 12:15 AM

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you can't tell me what to do

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:>

rough sapphire May 3, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Pulls off face to reveal I'm gdude's mother

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Yes I can

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 12:15 AM

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It'd be interesting to see them actually try to kick me out

rough sapphire May 3, 2020, 12:16 AM

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"NO SON OF OURS IS GONNA LIKE JAVA"

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 12:16 AM

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There's an actual parody about that haha

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https://youtu.be/RnqAXuLZlaE

YouTube

Sachin Paul

Java Forever And Ever Movie (Java vs Windows .Net)

Funny Video based on the Microsoft .net platform And Java...Watch and share it.Love by every computer engineer...
Cast And Crew:
From The Acclaimed Director Javatar and .NOT:
Eddie Larrison Scala Johansson
William Windows
Mona Lisa Hardrive
Lenny Linux

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I sleep now o/

rough sapphire May 3, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Was his dad seriously called John Johnsen

lofty dirge May 3, 2020, 1:50 AM

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What's hilarious video is calling out things that are complete 180 from present

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Java secure....

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Equifax would like to know your Apache Struts Version? Confirm/Deny

rough sapphire May 3, 2020, 2:03 AM

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Actually, Apache Struts is just fine and there was an update to the vulnerability 2~ months prior

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It's just Equifax didn't patch, and thus accidentally got 147,000,000+ people's information out

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"whoops"

finite spade May 3, 2020, 5:55 AM

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.

agile heart May 3, 2020, 9:13 AM

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@rough sapphire @sand goblet you remember talking about multi line cursor here with me the other day? I noticed a thing
So if you're in a jupyter notebook, and you start typing a variable name, so with intellisense pressing tab leads to auto completion of variable name. Now if I do that in multi line cursor mode, it rather tabs out both the lines on which my cursor is. Is that intended behavior lol? How do you use intellisense on multiline cursor?

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:13 AM

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I have no idea, it's not a feature I use much, and certainly I don't use it like that

agile heart May 3, 2020, 9:14 AM

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whaa

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you said it was very handy lol

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:14 AM

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It is

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but I don't see why you'd try to use it with code completion

agile heart May 3, 2020, 9:15 AM

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um, why not
You're writing something in two places which require the same variable

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if I have something like this

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:16 AM

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I guess it probably would work in an intellij-based IDE

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but you mention intellisense so I guess you're using vsc

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intellisense leaves something to be desired in all VS products imo

agile heart May 3, 2020, 9:16 AM

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I'm using Jupyter notebooks

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I'm not sure if Jupyter is intellisense or intellij based

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:17 AM

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Neither

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It's just jupyter

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which I've never used tbh

agile heart May 3, 2020, 9:17 AM

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uhm

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but I'm able to get list of variables when I start typing something and press tab

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like if i have a variable parameters, typing pa and then pressing tab gives me all those variables starting with pa, isn't that intellisense too?

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:18 AM

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It's a form of code completion

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intellisense is a microsoft thing

agile heart May 3, 2020, 9:19 AM

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oh damn

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hm, so my original question should be reworded to 'autocompletion on multicursor mode not working'

finite spade May 3, 2020, 10:07 AM

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hi

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 3:09 PM

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every single time i think of Good Times / Bad Times i have to listen to it a couple of times

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFj0rxyNCtc

YouTube

Zach Caywood

Led Zeppelin- Good Times And Bad Times

lyrics: In the days of my youth, I was told what it means to be a man,
Now I've reached that age, I've tried to do all those things the best I can.
No matter how I try, I find my way into the same old jam.

*Good Times, Bad Times, you know I had my share;
When my woma...

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tacit flint May 3, 2020, 4:01 PM

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did anyone ever see eivl not editing that Sublime Text file?

clear plume May 3, 2020, 5:50 PM

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It’s always py sample for project dev

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 6:53 PM

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does hidemyass bad ?

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someone said they are whistleblower

soft violet May 3, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Huh?

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 7:00 PM

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Proxies are pretty useless these days

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 7:22 PM

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oh god, playing stuff in this dropped tuning on my bass feels weird

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i know i'm playing the right relative notes but my brain is like "nope nope nope this is wrong"

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on another note, just watching a polyphonic and he's said that digital copies are exact replicas

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and that's something we lose through digital media

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but i've got a few MP3's that were recorded from CD's with minor skips

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and the skip is in the MP3

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in fact, one of my ripped CD's has, somehow, found its way into pirate media

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so whenever someone pirates the album, one of the glitches is in the album.

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i find it kind of funny that one ripped version from 2002 ended up on the internet and now if you want to steal it then you have to take that copy.

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my shitty rip from a scratched up CD

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEygho_j5j0 - interesting video by polyphonic though

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artificial aging of modern media is a pretty interesting thing.

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it's like a whole bunch of people miss the noise of impure media

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i get kind of nostalgic about vinyl hiss at the start or end of an album

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or general tape hiss and tape tempo warp

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i think that's my rant for the day.

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:30 PM

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why some vpn companies gives ads everywhere

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i fuckin see them everywhere

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i hate it

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i will never buy them because of that policy

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i hope they got bankrupt

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and second cringe thing : they are premium filehosters i don't want name them

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but generally

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:32 PM

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hey, you gotta sell software somehow

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this message was brought to you by NordVPN

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NordVPN uses military grade encryption to keep you safe on the internet

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Subscribe to NordVPN now using the coupon code BISKHATESNORDVPN now for 30% off for the first year

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:34 PM

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😄 nordvpn is awful

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they are shady

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never trust them

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:36 PM

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I haven't heard anything particularly bad about them

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:36 PM

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https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/21/nordvpn-confirms-it-was-hacked/

TechCrunch

Zack Whittaker

NordVPN confirms it was hacked – TechCrunch

NordVPN, a virtual private network provider that promises to “protect your privacy online,” has confirmed it was hacked. The admission comes following rumors that the company had been breached. It first emerged that NordVPN had an expired internal private key exposed, potentia...

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https://fossbytes.com/nordvpn-credential-stuffing-attacks/

Fossbytes

Manisha Priyadarshini

NordVPN Users Fall Victim To Credential-Stuffing Attacks

The virtual private network service NordVPN recently disclosed a server hack that leaked crypto keys. In the past few weeks, the credentials of NordVPN users were circulated on online forums such as Pastebin. The leaked data contained email IDs, plain-text passwords, and other...

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https://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/all/2019/05/01/nordvpn_tv_ad_rapped_advertising_standards_authority/

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etc. etc.

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:37 PM

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I wouldn't consider the first two to be out of the ordinary for most businesses, although a VPN is a security product..

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:37 PM

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and this is not as serious as aboves but :

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https://www.reddit.com/r/assholedesign/comments/a1c6um/nordvpn_has_a_fake_sale_countdown_which_always/

r/assholedesign - NordVPN has a fake sale countdown which always st...

111 votes and 9 comments so far on Reddit

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their countdown timer is fake also

undone berry May 3, 2020, 9:38 PM

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eh. IMO don't blame NordVPN, they're just advertising same as every other business. The countdown stuff is pretty shitty, but sponsoring YT videos isn't really

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:39 PM

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arguably sponsoring YT creators is great

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smaller creators already don't make enough

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:40 PM

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i mean i believe there are better options in vpn market

undone berry May 3, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Blame the system in which the only way YouTubers can get finding is by having sponsors

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:40 PM

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ah, @sand goblet

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nordvpn have a bad reputation

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because they have fucked a lot of shit up

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couple of breaches

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failure to properly vet their end point providers

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etc

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:41 PM

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hmm

undone berry May 3, 2020, 9:41 PM

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I don't really see why that's relevant to their sponsorship of YouTubers being good/bad

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:41 PM

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I mean I'm not buying a VPN anyway, but

undone berry May 3, 2020, 9:41 PM

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I have a Nord subscription because it's cheap

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:41 PM

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oh, i'm just saying that they have

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i'm not so bothered about the ads

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or the service

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probably does the trick

undone berry May 3, 2020, 9:42 PM

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yeah, they have done shitty stuff - but afaik there's no other great options for VPNs. It's just a mildly shitty market because they're selling something that's only really used for piracy

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:42 PM

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i dont want advertise but express is better option Charlie 😄

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you should consider

undone berry May 3, 2020, 9:42 PM

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why is it a better option?

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:43 PM

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better speeds etc. many of vpn reviewers put express 2nd

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after nord

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but since nord shady

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express is top option

undone berry May 3, 2020, 9:43 PM

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I really don't care about that - Nord is fine

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I don't use it near enough to care about speeds

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:44 PM

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btw what is for you using

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a vpn

undone berry May 3, 2020, 9:44 PM

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uh

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:44 PM

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piracy,netflix etc.

undone berry May 3, 2020, 9:44 PM

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downloading textbooks

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:44 PM

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ah okay 😄

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im using for netflix actually but its fine too

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:44 PM

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my FAVOURITE thing about NordVPN

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and it's really dumb

undone berry May 3, 2020, 9:45 PM

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textbooks through torrent sites. I literally start the torrent then turn it off - and that's only because my ISP blocks the textbook torrent site

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:45 PM

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is they let Internet Comment Etiquette do whatever the fuck they like for ads

undone berry May 3, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Yeah, if they're gonna advertise, I kinda like that the way they do it gives good people money - even if they also give money to some shitty people at the same time

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:46 PM

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why you pay for just one website 😄

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:46 PM

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https://youtu.be/MkPaFBjHKI8?t=380

YouTube

Internet Comment Etiquette with Erik

Internet Comment Etiquette: "The Clorox Plan"

Go to https://NordVPN.com/bigmoney or use code BIGMONEY to get 70% off a 3 year plan plus 1 additional month free.

In today's lesson, an old friend returns from the grave. And he just might bring the grave with him.

"Big Money Salvia City" by Hot Dad http://www.youtube.com/H...

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gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:46 PM

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protonvpn is free and eh

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its not secure but

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since you dont care security

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:47 PM

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that's not a good one, some of them are excellent.

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:48 PM

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I'd be surprised if protonvpn isn't secure

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considering who it's run by

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:48 PM

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isn't or is

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:48 PM

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windscribe is good too

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:48 PM

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I said what I said

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:48 PM

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ah okay

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:48 PM

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i use surfyshark for paid vpn

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its small but good

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solid one

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:49 PM

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oh shit

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is it the people who do protonmail?

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:49 PM

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also don't forget about that one service that everyone thought was a joke, but wasn't

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yes

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:49 PM

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because that'd make absolute sense

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yeh okay i get you

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:49 PM

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also don't forget about that one service that everyone thought was a joke, but wasn't
vpnhub

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:49 PM

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hmm who run vpnhub ? pornhub ?

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:d

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:49 PM

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yes.

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:50 PM

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ah seems logical website design similar too

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:50 PM

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everyone thought it was a joke

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but it absolutely isn't

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haha

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:50 PM

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i wish they give pornhub premium bonus gift 😄

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:51 PM

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lol, let's not go into that

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:51 PM

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😄

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i consider in vpn , netflix bypass actually

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:52 PM

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If you were doing that you'd really want a separate netflix account

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:52 PM

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why

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they will ban me ?

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:52 PM

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because they do often ban people doing that

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:52 PM

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ah okay :d so people give money every ban

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to netflix 😄

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:53 PM

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yeah, netflix has licensing agreements across multiple jurisdictions

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which is why you can't get everything netflix has from wherever you are

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and bypassing that, fucks up their licensing agreement, which might make the people who own the license angry

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soooooooooooooo you get banned if you get caught avoiding regional restrictions

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:54 PM

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netflix my location content is shit :d sadly

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their us content is amazing :d

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:55 PM

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I still don't really understand why these aren't just global agreements

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Netflix's DRM is pretty good

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surely they'd just make more money

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:55 PM

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it's not up to them

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:55 PM

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i guess copyright is seperate in different countries

clear plume May 3, 2020, 9:55 PM

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^

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:55 PM

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it may not even be that, but it could be the media isn't allowed in other countries

clear plume May 3, 2020, 9:55 PM

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It’s unfortunate but that’s why you get a vpn

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Or both

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:55 PM

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no, that's not why you get a VPN

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you shouldn't be getting a VPN to break ToS

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because that's bad.

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:56 PM

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😄 unfortunately but people got vpn for two different things usually

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netflix and torrent :d

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sadly

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i don't see people buy vpn for other reasons

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europe dmca laws are strict

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:58 PM

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I'd consider getting one for viewing american websites that think they're too good for GDPR

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:58 PM

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in my country its not strict . government usually more into of recording people 😄

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:58 PM

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europe doesn't have DMCA laws

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fyi.

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:58 PM

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yeah, DMCA is an american thing

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:58 PM

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yup

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:58 PM

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although what we have is largely compatible

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:58 PM

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hmm i heard people paying money for piracy in germany are something

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:58 PM

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not as abusable as the DMCA though

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 9:58 PM

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piracy fine

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 9:58 PM

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I mean a DMCA notice is still an OK thing to send under what we have

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which is what matters

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 9:59 PM

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the DMCA is very much the authors control in the US

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even if it's false

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the EU system has more balances

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you're not going to see that on big sites, because they'll just adopt one standard

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but the EU law is much fairer

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 10:01 PM

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hmm i don't know . i heard there are many copyright trolls

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which got torrent peer ips and sue them

sand goblet May 3, 2020, 10:03 PM

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yeah, but that rarely happens here

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that's mostly a US/AUS thing

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 10:04 PM

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hmm so you are safely do that stuff without vpn

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nice 😄

gentle moss May 3, 2020, 10:06 PM

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totally not what we said <_<

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 10:07 PM

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🤫

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😄

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they ban vpn's in my country :d but vpn's find way to run

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for not piracy , for adult sites actually

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adult sites and trying to access them are prohibited :d

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 11:01 PM

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In regards to Netflix specifically, there’s a handful of reports from customers asking Netflix customer service this exact question.

Netflix makes it pretty clear that while they don’t endorse the use of a VPN to view region-locked content, it’s not something they don’t allow, either. So as far as the service itself is concerned, you’re in the green.

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hmm interesting

undone berry May 3, 2020, 11:04 PM

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This is the only bit in their TOS that seems to mention it: 4.3. You may view the Netflix content primarily within the country in which you have established your account and only in geographic locations where we offer our service and have licensed such content. The content that may be available to watch will vary by geographic location and will change from time to time. The number of devices on which you may simultaneously watch depends on your chosen subscription plan and is specified on the "Account" page.

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Terms of use actually https://help.netflix.com/legal/termsofuse

gusty oar May 3, 2020, 11:06 PM

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yes they don't write it big letters and angry

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its not endorsable thing but

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not as big issue as piracy

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gray area

finite spade May 4, 2020, 2:48 AM

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hmm

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 11:23 AM

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why is QUIC support moving so slow

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i just did a dist-upgrade on my machine from 16.04 to 20.04 and it force upgraded my patched nginx

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which, turns out, still doesn't have quic support by default

finite spade May 4, 2020, 11:42 AM

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hi

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 11:47 AM

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hi

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please don't spam up all three channels :) one's fine, thanks

gentle moss May 4, 2020, 12:09 PM

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stuff the ice chest

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 12:21 PM

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I've asked them not to do that like four times now

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Seems a bit petty to ping mods for though

plucky ridge May 4, 2020, 12:47 PM

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I hate it when the bulk of your chap stick gets stuck in the cap

solid pollen May 4, 2020, 12:48 PM

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But do you like being a burger?

plucky ridge May 4, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Is there a context I'm missing?

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Me?
I actually do.

solid pollen May 4, 2020, 12:48 PM

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The channel name :D

plucky ridge May 4, 2020, 12:48 PM

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Oh right right

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Hemlock: Master of Observation

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 12:54 PM

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Is that one in reference to mental burgers or something else?

solid pollen May 4, 2020, 12:55 PM

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It is a closed source otn haha

plucky ridge May 4, 2020, 1:05 PM

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I'm not sure what it's in reference to, honestly

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We have so many that I kind of lose track

solid pollen May 4, 2020, 1:06 PM

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I mean, you have a search bar

plucky ridge May 4, 2020, 1:06 PM

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Yeah but like

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Lazy

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And trying to debug something at work

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Our tax software is being a dick this morning

solid pollen May 4, 2020, 1:07 PM

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Bad tax software!

plucky ridge May 4, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Probably going to have to call in the cavalry on this one.

gentle moss May 4, 2020, 1:12 PM

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it does seem pretty petty g, but if it continues, who knows

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

plucky ridge May 4, 2020, 1:14 PM

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@sand goblet It's still stuff we want to know about

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 1:15 PM

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👀

plucky ridge May 4, 2020, 1:15 PM

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It's still a disruption and would likely go over better if they were talked to by staff

gentle moss May 4, 2020, 1:16 PM

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as they say about terrorism

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SEE SOMETHING

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SAY SOMETHING

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 1:18 PM

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Oh, that's what you meant

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I thought that ping was about the channel name question

gentle moss May 4, 2020, 1:21 PM

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hah

plucky ridge May 4, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Nah

solid pollen May 4, 2020, 1:22 PM

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Naan

gentle moss May 4, 2020, 1:22 PM

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@pine vector

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parts of my hand are still numb

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:|

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 1:23 PM

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Bread on the brain, akarys?

solid pollen May 4, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Just hungry haha

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I’m reading a book

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The whole book are just letters

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Well, letters you send through mail

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That's really boring, but I'm pretty sure that you'll like the title of the book

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"Mademoiselle de Maupin"

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And it is spanish class time with the old lad :/

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How’s everyone’s day going?

plucky ridge May 4, 2020, 1:38 PM

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Not too bad so far

solid pollen May 4, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Tax software is acting like a good boy?

gentle moss May 4, 2020, 1:43 PM

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my hangover kinda hurts and my hand is still numb

plucky ridge May 4, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Did you sleep on it?

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Also either lay it in hot water or run hot water over it

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Should help loosen the blood vessels enough to get some better blood flow

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Also rubbing it helps

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Source: I have perpetually cold hands due to meds and poor circulation in general

gusty oar May 4, 2020, 2:14 PM

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hey gdude . do you like nitro

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do you think worth 😄

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 2:21 PM

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I like it, but I get it to support Discord

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rather than for the features

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although being able to upload my setups to Discord for beta testers is handy

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since they're like 55MiB or something

gusty oar May 4, 2020, 2:33 PM

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do you like discord

solid pollen May 4, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Setups?

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 2:43 PM

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yup, setups.

deep drum May 4, 2020, 3:14 PM

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What are setups?

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 3:31 PM

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you know, like, installers

undone berry May 4, 2020, 3:59 PM

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is it good practice to include a kdoc with every func in Kotlin?

solid pollen May 4, 2020, 4:19 PM

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I think it is the same deal than with docstrings, most of the time yeah it is useful to have

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 4:27 PM

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@undone berry Yes it is

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There is precisely one doctool

undone berry May 4, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Follow up question I guess- what about getters and setters. Some of mine are a bit monstrous, but are still only units - is there convention for documenting them? Should I just turn the units into normal functions?

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 4:28 PM

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and precisely one external doctool

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that wraps the official one

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Also, you should document public properties too

undone berry May 4, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Example of monstrous getter

        override val adjacentBoxes: Pair<StudentBox?, StudentBox?>
            get() {
                return if (lineY % 2 == 0) {
                    Pair(
                        if (lineY > 0) boxes[lineX, lineY / 2 - 1] else null,
                        if (lineY / 2 < boxes.height) boxes[lineX, lineY / 2] else null
                        )
                } else {
                    Pair(
                        if (lineX > 0) boxes[lineX - 1, (lineY - 1) / 2] else null,
                        if (lineX < boxes.width) boxes[lineX, (lineY - 1) / 2] else null
                        )
                }
            }

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Yeah, that's a property

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Document the property

undone berry May 4, 2020, 4:29 PM

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alright - good to know

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 4:29 PM

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https://bot.docs.kotlindiscord.com/kotlindoc/bot/kdbot/com/kotlindiscord/bot/kdbot/

KDBot

Kotlin Discord's in-house management bot

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You can see I've documented some fields here

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You should document all public fields

undone berry May 4, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Was just about to ask for an example - thanks

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 4:30 PM

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KDoc comments are the same for basically everything

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https://github.com/Kotlin-Discord/bot/blob/master/src/main/kotlin/com/kotlindiscord/bot/KDBot.kt#L25

GitHub

Kotlin-Discord/bot

Primary Discord bot for maintaining our services. Contribute to Kotlin-Discord/bot development by creating an account on GitHub.

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You can do that for single-line kdoc comments

undone berry May 4, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Glad I saw the source - just realised I was doing them inside the class/function like docstrings

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Yeah, they go above

gentle moss May 4, 2020, 4:49 PM

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@plucky ridge i tried to handcuff the miss as a bit of a lark but she managed to take the 2nd cuff and cuff me, but it was too tight

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she knows how to shim cuffs too

plucky ridge May 4, 2020, 4:50 PM

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Shoulda known better

gentle moss May 4, 2020, 4:50 PM

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at least i now know why police go through training to use them properly though

plucky ridge May 4, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Yep

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Not as easy as it looks

gentle moss May 4, 2020, 4:51 PM

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yeah, get them in the wrong place or too tight and it's seriously painful

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and my hand is still kinda numb

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full motion though

plucky ridge May 4, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Here's hoping there's no nerve damage or blood clots from it

gentle moss May 4, 2020, 4:52 PM

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nah, it's all coming back, just slowly

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i think we both learned a lesson tbh

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getting handcuffed to someone sucks

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and i learned she's real fucking sneaky

soft shuttle May 4, 2020, 5:15 PM

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hello

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i ahve a quesiton

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i have a pdf of 100 pages

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i want to split it into two pdfs
one with 1-50 pages, next with 51-100 pages
is there any program that does that in one step?

gentle moss May 4, 2020, 5:17 PM

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windows comes with a pdf print driver that lets you "print" a document to pdf

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you could select a page range and print out to a file

soft shuttle May 4, 2020, 5:27 PM

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ohhhhh

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Good idea yesssss

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@gentle moss

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you're a geniussss

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thank u, that works great and easier than using websites

gentle moss May 4, 2020, 5:31 PM

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no problem

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:)

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little things like that are so good to know

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 5:37 PM

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the only useful program i have ever written in the entire lifetime of my programming career is this one small python snippet that merges pdf files.

soft violet May 4, 2020, 5:42 PM

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How horrifically practical.

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 5:47 PM

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trust me, it is.

gentle moss May 4, 2020, 5:47 PM

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especially if it can do it over a whole directory

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 5:50 PM

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but the other practical use i've found for python is to check how many days there are between any given two dates

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don't know? just check with datetime

gentle moss May 4, 2020, 5:51 PM

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on linux i pop python open to do maths

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got a script to work out rent/bill differences between me and the miss too

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so we're splitting 50-50

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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now that's something

gentle moss May 4, 2020, 5:52 PM

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oh you have to plug the numbers in, it doesn't scrape the bank or anything

undone berry May 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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on Windows I use python for arithmetic stuff. Having variables makes anything beyond a single operation much easier for me to think about

gentle moss May 4, 2020, 5:54 PM

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plus fucking something up in calc is a bit shit

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not really got great undo abilities

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 5:54 PM

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hmm i wonder if you get start python so that all variables and functions are automatically assumed to be sympy variables and functions

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that way you could turn the thing into a symbolic calculator

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that would be really useful instead of having a second app for it

graceful basin May 4, 2020, 5:56 PM

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my graphic calculator is capable of that, so I just use that

undone berry May 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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like an app on your phone, or do you just alwayas have a graphical calculator near your computer?

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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You mean a graphing calculator?

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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my goto is maxima

undone berry May 4, 2020, 5:57 PM

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eh - graphical graphing same thign

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they got graff

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Not even slightly

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:>

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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>>> solve(x*x + 1)
[-I, I] ## yeee boiii```

undone berry May 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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if it begins with a g - it's the same thing to me - all graphic calculators

graceful basin May 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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I mean, it is graphic and graphing. I have it on my desk, because I mostly use for AP Calc, and I no longer carry it to school for lack of school

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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I'm not a calculator

graceful basin May 4, 2020, 5:58 PM

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r u sure

undone berry May 4, 2020, 5:59 PM

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what's 1+2?

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3

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correct

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you calculate

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therefore you are a calculator

gentle moss May 4, 2020, 6:00 PM

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i am calculate and so can you be

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follow 12 step easy guide for better calculation thoughts

ocean cipher May 4, 2020, 9:16 PM

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Wait, Kotlin was released 4 years ago?

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What is Kotlin used for?

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And is it worth learning?

graceful basin May 4, 2020, 9:24 PM

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Kotlin Is used wherever java is and is essentially a better language than java. So instead of writing java you write kotlin And get cleaner code. Additionally, it is used a lot in Android and can compile to native and js I think.

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 9:25 PM

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That's right!

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I'm a big fan.

graceful basin May 4, 2020, 9:26 PM

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Also, I forgot to mention, a big part of why kotlin Is So nice Is null safety

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Why does my phone autocorrect is to Is...

ocean cipher May 4, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Are (most of) the same libraries implemented by now?

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So, can I use OpenGL?

graceful basin May 4, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Kotlin has Java interop, so anything you can do in java you can do in kotlin (pretty sure including the more hacky parts of java like reflection), though ASM may be a pain

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Reflection is actually nicer in kotlin too

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kotlinx.reflection adds support for it

ocean cipher May 4, 2020, 9:29 PM

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This sounds amazing.

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But, is it really worth replacing Java?

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Like here's some basic reflection work I did to load up extensions on my bot framework

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📎 unknown.png

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it doesn't really get simpler than that

graceful basin May 4, 2020, 9:30 PM

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The cost of adoption is very low and it can be gradual

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There is even a java->kotlin converter

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 9:30 PM

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It's definitely worth replacing Java with Kotlin imo, and it's something I've been doing

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if you use IDEA you can just paste java code into a kotlin file and it converts it

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it's like no effort

graceful basin May 4, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Though it does not make idiomatic kotlin code afaik

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 9:31 PM

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it doesn't

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it's more of a jumping off point, like 2to3

ocean cipher May 4, 2020, 9:32 PM

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I think I'll learn Java (shouldn't be too hard because I use C# pretty often), and then switch to Kotlin after

lost radish May 4, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Kotlin has Java interop, so anything you can do in java you can do in kotlin (pretty sure including the more hacky parts of java like reflection), though ASM may be a pain
@graceful basin
The more me parts of Java.

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 9:38 PM

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"The more me parts of Java"

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?

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but yes full interop means you can use all Java libraries

undone berry May 4, 2020, 9:52 PM

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The cost of adoption for most companies is introducing a new language into their stack - which is a very real cost for anywhere particularly large

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 9:53 PM

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This is true, which is why I don't expect it to catch on in enterprise for some time yet

undone berry May 4, 2020, 9:59 PM

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I really hope it eventually takes over java. I can bear writing Kotlin, but I don't think I could bear Java for a job

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 10:02 PM

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I got burned by lemon on 1 april

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still can't forget it

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no joke

wraith oriole May 4, 2020, 10:08 PM

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jetbrains has kotlin course avail for free if anyone is interested

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https://www.jetbrains.com/academy/

JetBrains

JetBrains Academy: Get Ready To Become A Professional

Introducing JetBrains Academy – an educational platform for future developers. Master programming by building real applications step by step in an adaptive project-based learning environment integrated with IntelliJ IDEA Edu.

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 10:08 PM

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I've heard it's good

wraith oriole May 4, 2020, 10:08 PM

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I signed up for the python class and skipped to the final project to help solidify my python

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there are not a lot of classes targeted at intermediate students

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I guess thats why everyone says start working on a personal project / open source

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make your own intermediate lessons

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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yeah i heard about JetBrains Aca recently

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i really like it

wraith oriole May 4, 2020, 10:10 PM

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That one guy on udemy has 4 deep deep dives into python, but I dont think Im ready for that yet.

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 10:11 PM

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eventhough i know python already

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i took the Python path

wraith oriole May 4, 2020, 10:11 PM

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yea, JBA looks good. Theyre tempting me to try pycharm
but I just told myself I was going to get good at vim bindings for real this time.

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 10:11 PM

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from the beginning

wraith oriole May 4, 2020, 10:12 PM

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nice @tired tulipgeta! did you complete the course?

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 10:13 PM

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I didn't use Pycharm in a month cuz i didn't like the UI ang colours. But Jetbrains Academy let me use it again. Plus i downloaded a material plugin which made me like it again.

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nice @tired tulipgeta! did you complete the course?
@wraith oriole not yet

wraith oriole May 4, 2020, 10:14 PM

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im sure theres a vim key bindings plugin for pycharm too

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 10:14 PM

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doing one of the available project on it

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I want a beautify code plugin for Pycharm

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when you save the code

wraith oriole May 4, 2020, 10:14 PM

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I skipped to the Hyper Car service garage project.

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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beautifies

wraith oriole May 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Imma try to use flask instead of django

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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ctrl+alt+L to reformat

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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yeh but the plugin looks easier😅

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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well when you commit you can have it do that automatically

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 10:15 PM

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ctrlS

sand goblet May 4, 2020, 10:16 PM

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you don't really want it doing that on every save tbh

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 10:16 PM

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I AM a python calculator.

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like VScode

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ok?

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You disrespect pythons if you're not a calculator.

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i am not

wraith oriole May 4, 2020, 10:33 PM

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@rough sapphire Im an abacus
<drops mic>

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 11:10 PM

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@rough sapphire

They're not E2E with preshared keys by default, but that's a positive in my book, I should be able to read my chats on all of the devices I'm signed in on
Signal is end-to-end encrypted, and I can read my messages on desktop and my phone just fine. Mind you, when you set it up initially on desktop it doesn't transfer over your messages, but that's not an issue to me.
I'm not sure what your issue is with Signal in regards to the UX. I've always thought it was pretty great, and I've brought quite a few people over to it.
The lack of E2E by default and the lack of ability to have control over your own keys with Telegram is a huge issue that shouldn't be overlooked.

#

Also, in regards to the lead dev of Telegram, taken from https://www.dld-conference.com/speakers/digital-business/pavel-durov_aid_3087.html:

In 2005, Pavel completed his training at the Faculty of Military Studies of St. Petersburg State University with a specialization in Propaganda and Psychological Warfare. While training with the Faculty of Military Studies, he served as Platoon Commander of the Philology Department. Upon completion, he was awarded the title of Lieutenant of the Reserve Force.
Emphasis mine.

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https://telegra.ph/Why-Isnt-Telegram-End-to-End-Encrypted-by-Default-08-14 Is also an interesting read.

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and in regards to censorship:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/05/telegram-has-finally-cracked-down-islamist-terrorism-will-it-do-same-far-right/

That changed most dramatically in mid-November when, with the help of European law enforcement, Telegram began targeting individual users and administrators, hitting everyone from the Islamic State’s central media workers to its supporters distributing its content. Telegram seems to have employed a widely aimed algorithm that targeted not only these Islamist militants but also journalists and researchers embedded in these communities. Even backup accounts were deleted, and when operatives and supporters created new ones, they were quickly removed, as well.

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While yes, groups like ISIS and the like are not groups anyone should want to align themselves with, it's still a great story to emphasis that Telegram has taken the stance of censorship, and has the ability to do so if you get on their "bad side"

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Which is why Signal is considerably better for any type of security. I mean, Edward Snowden even advertises on his Twitter he uses it every day.

rough sapphire May 4, 2020, 11:37 PM

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I am curious as to what makes Signal's UX bad in your eyes as well. What's missing/could use a revision?

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 6:32 AM

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How does a degree point towards anything malicious? It's not even related. I guess I'm inherently a bad guy because I've gotten hacking training in the military...

Telegram has always been clear on which chats are E2E encrypted and which are just encrypted in their datacenters. You can always opt to use secret chats if you have a more sensitive chat that requires the secrecy. This is a non-issue you're bringing up as an actual issue because that's just what you decided to focus on - you wouldn't take this stance against other messaging apps like iMessage etc.

Re: ISIS. Yeah, if 90% of recruitment to a terrorist organisation happened through your app, you'd do something about it as well. The fact that they can do something about it rather than nothing at all is a positive in my book.

Re: UX. It was always just frustrating to use. I couldn't use it as my primary SMS app, because it doesn't support dual sim (... really?), but I could live with that. But the fact that it prompted me to invite my friends every 10 minutes like a desperate bachelor trying to organise a party just pissed me off. That + the fact it doesn't provide any features that you'd expect from a modern messaging app like live location sharing, sending fucking any file other than an image, chat folders etc turned me off real quick.

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@rough sapphire

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 6:59 AM

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you wouldn't take this stance against other messaging apps like iMessage etc.
I would though. I'm not a fan of iMessage, WhatsApp, Wire, Threema, etc either.
The fact that they can do something about it rather than nothing at all is a positive in my book.
I disagree.
UX. It was always just frustrating to use. I couldn't use it as my primary SMS app, because it doesn't support dual sim (... really?), but I could live with that. But the fact that it prompted me to invite my friends every 10 minutes ... just pissed me off. That + the fact it doesn't provide any features that you'd expect from a modern messaging app like live location sharing, sending any file other than an image, chat folders etc turned me off
A lot here.
I couldn't use it as my primary SMS app, because it doesn't support dual sim
Alright, that's a legitimate issue.
the fact that it prompted me to invite my friends every 10 minutes
That can be disabled within settings
live location sharing
There's an option of sending location in the same location you'd do an attachment in
sending any file other than an image, chat folders etc
You can send any file up to a specific file size, though I'm not sure of the file size. I don't believe you can send folders though.

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It didn't the last time I used it

#

I'm interested in the constructive criticism and discussion. I personally don't believe that I can trust the main dev considering their background, which is why I provided it. There's also the idea of usecases of why you'd use one messenger/app/etc as opposed to another. Signal to me is something I use to discuss details, business or otherwise, that could have an affect on investments, friends/family, or otherwise. Which is why I suggest others use it, considering it doesn't play around with anything and forces encryption from the get go.

#

Signal's gotten pretty good, but I can see some issues with it now. The lack of sending a folder isn't something I've seen as a big issue, considering you can just send a .zip file of said folder(s).

#

The biggest issue I see is the lack of dual-sim support.

#

Which ironically enough, I do remember complaining about just that maybe about a year ago when I got a new device. Just something that I had spaced on.

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I personally don't believe that I can trust the main dev considering their background
Pretty ironic. If you actually read about the person's background, you'd know they were removed as the CEO of VKontakte for refusing to hand out data to the Russian government and has been living in exile since. But sure, focus on their (mostly irrelevant) degree instead.

There's also the idea of usecases of why you'd use one messenger/app/etc as opposed to another
Yes. Exactly. And Telegram satisfies all of those use cases in one way or another, which is why I use it as my main messaging app.

The lack of sending a folder
That's not what I meant. I said chat folder, which is a way to organise the different chats you have. I don't want my work-related chats and my personal life related chats clumped all in one list, it pretty quickly becomes unmanageable.

It's pretty clear you favour Signal, and that's fine, but don't go around bashing Telegram just because "Signal is better" and you read a post that isn't even available anymore by one of Signal's devs that states "Telegram bad".

#

This is becoming a pretty pointless "iPhone vs Android"-esque argument, and I see no reason to continue.

#

Alright, understandable.

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:22 PM

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📎 IMG_20200505_152111.jpg

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inkeeper, who did you get to mount this horse?

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 2:24 PM

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"Roach, cut this shit out."

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:24 PM

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:D

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 2:25 PM

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"Now let's ride, there's Gwent to be played."

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:25 PM

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i think you mean "quit horsing around"

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 2:25 PM

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HOW DID I MISS THAT

#

I'm so mad

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 2:25 PM

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hahaha

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:26 PM

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you're obviously less awake than me

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Very

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Very very very

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:26 PM

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gotta... rein it in a bit.

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Had another night of poor sleep and terrible god damn it bisk

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:27 PM

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i'm not trying to stirrup trouble here

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 2:27 PM

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It'd behoove you to cut me some slack

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:27 PM

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but my colt following would be disappointed if i did

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Okay, THAT one's good

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:28 PM

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yeah, it's amazing what you come up with spur of the moment.

#

but now i am saddled with the shame of all these puns

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 2:29 PM

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I'm not really bringing my neigh game today

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:30 PM

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i canter believe you tried to trot that one out

pine vector May 5, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Hem is chomping at the bit to get a good one in. My bet is that he'll catch bisk at the turn...

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:33 PM

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champing

#

champing at the bit

pine vector May 5, 2020, 2:34 PM

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i'm not from Oxford...

undone berry May 5, 2020, 2:35 PM

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https://grammarist.com/usage/champing-chomping-at-the-bit/ nah - chomping is fine as well

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:35 PM

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they mean pretty much the same thing

#

champing is historical i think?

undone berry May 5, 2020, 2:36 PM

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I guess so

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:36 PM

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me mam owned horses like and the horse people always said champing

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but i guess they are horse people

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genetic freaks

undone berry May 5, 2020, 2:36 PM

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champ is just the horsey term for it actually

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and

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I'm of the opinion horses already have too much language

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so chomp > champ

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:37 PM

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yeah there was that one horse wouldn't shut up

#

Mr Ed

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cI-LXMyyDo

YouTube

Umbrella Entertainment

Mister Ed Excerpt

A horse is a horse... of course, of course. But in the case of Mister Ed, he's so much more!

A stallion with the gift of the gab, Mister Ed burst out of the gates in 1961 and became one of the most beloved four-legged stars in television history. The plain-speaking palomino a...

▶ Play video

undone berry May 5, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Was just about to link to a clip of that that I just discovered

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horrifying

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 2:38 PM

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is that horse doing drugs

pine vector May 5, 2020, 2:38 PM

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i went through a Mr Ed phase as a kid. good show.

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:39 PM

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it's weird.

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no, the horse is reading the newspaper tron

undone berry May 5, 2020, 2:39 PM

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I have a mild dislike for horses

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:39 PM

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they're skittish and expensive

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everything is trying to kill them

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feed it too many apples? dead horse.

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wrong type of hay? dead horse.

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all so you can ride around on a lumpy motorcycle

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that might kill you

pine vector May 5, 2020, 2:40 PM

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i'd imagine its our breeding of them that has caused a lot of that.

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:41 PM

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probably, yeah

undone berry May 5, 2020, 2:41 PM

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same as a lot of pedigree dogs I guess

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except dogs are cool or cute

#

and horses are just horses

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:42 PM

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remember falling off my mums horse as a kid, that shit sucks

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and then you've got this fucking freaking 1000kg beast stamping around

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hard pass from me

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undomesticated equines could not remove me.

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Yeah there is not a world where I can hear "Goodbye Horses" and not think of Silence of the Lambs

pine vector May 5, 2020, 2:49 PM

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don't forget about the carrots...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmJYZ1NIn1Y

YouTube

TOOLVEVO

TOOL - Disgustipated (Audio)

Listen to TOOL’s Full Catalog – Available Now:
http://smarturl.it/TOOLCatalog?iQid=yt

Get ’10,000 Days’:
http://smarturl.it/TOOL10000Days?iQid=yt
Get ‘Lateralus’:
http://smarturl.com/TOOLLateralus?iQid=yt
Get ‘Ænima’:
http://smarturl.com/TOOLAEnima?iQid=yt
Get ‘Undertow’:
h...

▶ Play video

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:49 PM

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these are the cries of the carrots

pine vector May 5, 2020, 2:50 PM

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this is necessary.

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:50 PM

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you see, reverend maynard

#

tomorrow is harrrvest day

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but to them it is... the holocaust.

#

tool sometimes.

#

LET THE RABBITS WEAR GLASSES

#

hah.

pine vector May 5, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Disgustipated still holds Best Hidden Track In Existence award, imo.

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:52 PM

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my rip of the CD included all the silence

pine vector May 5, 2020, 2:52 PM

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shame kids don't know what that is anymore... 😦

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 2:52 PM

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so i'd listen to the album and just forget about it

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always that "oh fuck yeah i was listening to music wasn't i. duhh..."

pine vector May 5, 2020, 2:53 PM

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still remember the first time i heard it. crikets were so quiet, i turned it up loud. then...BOOM! this, is necessary. hehe

crisp sierra May 5, 2020, 3:00 PM

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is anyone familiar with reading automatically generated swagger documentation?

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I'm looking at https://developer.atlassian.com/bitbucket/api/2/reference/resource/repositories/{workspace}/{repo_slug}/issues#post and it just seems like it's only meant to be consumed by machine, not a developer

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 3:04 PM

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And yet that's still more comprehensible than Google's docs....

low shadow May 5, 2020, 3:16 PM

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Hey guys how are u all

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Tired, about to go on an errand run for work. How've you been

low shadow May 5, 2020, 3:17 PM

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I have been finest

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Finally learnt buffer overflow to root shell

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However I don't know how to write shellcode

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 3:27 PM

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I saved a bee

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📎 IMG_20200505_162545.jpg 📎 IMG_20200505_162604.jpg

solid pollen May 5, 2020, 3:28 PM

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UE4.25 just got released

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Poor little bee

crisp sierra May 5, 2020, 3:31 PM

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@plucky ridge I just realized - that schema is formatted so that you can't even copy and paste it. this is horrifying

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Jesus

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Yeah that seems a bit.... icky

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 3:40 PM

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You'll be glad to know the bee is fine and has just flown off

undone berry May 5, 2020, 3:43 PM

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good to know that the free bee can go and be free

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 3:46 PM

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good thing i went to go feed the birds

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i would've felt bad seeing a dead bee in the bucket.

wheat lynx May 5, 2020, 3:47 PM

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You can get little cards with sugar solution on them to feed the bees, I think they were giving some out as freebies 🥁

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 3:47 PM

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i gave it a tiny amount of honey, but it did not seem interested

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obviously not that tired

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obviously a very busy bee

wheat lynx May 5, 2020, 3:51 PM

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Unbeelievable.

solid pollen May 5, 2020, 4:07 PM

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So apparently UE4.25 "added support for next-gen console"

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What does that even mean

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Apparently that's what Sony and Microsoft asked their console to be called as

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Haha that's hilarious

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 4:10 PM

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i thought UE4 already supported PC's

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<_<

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to be fair though, they're always called the next-generation

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because it's another generation

solid pollen May 5, 2020, 4:11 PM

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For some reason that make me laugh

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Well, they already supported them, it was just a mess to get the headers

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But now it is apparently easier to get, even if you still have to sign a contract

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Let's go for 4h of compiling because asking for Linux binaries is apparently too much

low shadow May 5, 2020, 4:27 PM

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i got it , i cant beat rm -rf /*

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upto /proc was deleted

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when i pressed Ctrl+C

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from /a to /p*

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 4:29 PM

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and /boot is super important

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pretty much first thing to go in the list

solid pollen May 5, 2020, 4:33 PM

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You can be faster

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But you need a reaction time of 0.002s

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 4:35 PM

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peachy. multiprocessing is broken under window in jupyter notebooks.

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hmm or i guess it requires some extra steps

low shadow May 5, 2020, 4:38 PM

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But you need a reaction time of 0.002s
@solid pollen oh, yes, which i cant have

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thats why i messed up last time

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 4:46 PM

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great. multithreading achieved. great success.

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the universe might now be more bearable when calculating a simple average for 4 columns can be done in parallel

low shadow May 5, 2020, 4:47 PM

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hmm

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 4:49 PM

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the thing was taking literally 30 seconds per column

low shadow May 5, 2020, 4:49 PM

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thats a success

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 4:49 PM

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well yeah

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the problem is simply that there's so much data that it's hard to get around it

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it kinda takes time to calculate the average for 4M numbers

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not even sure how many times it does it since it's a rolling average

low shadow May 5, 2020, 4:50 PM

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oh, i like multithreading too but i never use

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coz i never wrote big program

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i m so happy now

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i can finally exploit buffer overflow

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 5:04 PM

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2020-05-05 20:03:57.250676 rolling window ready for 7 - 7 0:00:28.458336
2020-05-05 20:03:58.586106 rolling window ready for 7 - 28 0:00:28.416422
2020-05-05 20:04:00.138983 rolling window ready for 28 - 7 0:00:28.491016
2020-05-05 20:04:01.988582 rolling window ready for 28 - 28 0:00:29.003943```

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that's so satisfying

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just cut the processing time for predictions from 2 hours for this thing down to 30 minutes

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 5:24 PM

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Okay, the more and more I play with Elm the more I like it

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It's still got a little ways to go before it's a stronger force, but it's still really really good

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Biggest beef I have so far is that there's no built in way to do string formatting other than concatenation

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There are a couple of packages that seem to rectify it, though

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Just kind of salty that there doesn't seem to be a clean an easy way

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And looking at the first string formatting package I found....

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import Formatting exposing (..)

greeting =
    s "Hello " <> string <> s "!"

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I'm not overly impressed

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This essentially creates a string template that lets you plug in the arbitrary string

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Letting you do something like:

print greeting "Kris"```

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 5:28 PM

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praise be

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Yeah it's not pretty to say the least

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Oh you'll LOVE this one

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https://github.com/krisajenkins/formatting Eh, too lazy to type out the next example, but it's messy as well

GitHub

krisajenkins/formatting

A type-safe string formatting library. printf: elm style. - krisajenkins/formatting

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There has to be a better way...

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 5:32 PM

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computers and humans are not compatible

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that's the problem here

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the computer just wants to do computer things and the human wants to do things that the computer doesn't.

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 5:32 PM

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You say that but Python and JavaScript both managed to make string interpolation simple and pleasant

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 5:32 PM

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well yeah but that's because they don't try to be pure

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they have no morals or principles.

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Fair point

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Pure in the functional language sense?

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 5:33 PM

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that

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Gotcha

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 5:34 PM

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the more "let's make this thing act like a mathematical object" you make something, the more difficult it will be to make interact with anything a normal human being in 2020 might want to do with it

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 5:35 PM

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I think I'm personally willing to take those lumps with it

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For some reason Elm is making sense in my head

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Which is an odd thought

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https://github.com/elm/compiler/issues/905

GitHub

Proposal: String Interpolation · Issue #905 · elm/compiler

String interpolation is incredibly desirable when building UIs. It would be great if Elm had it! Proposed Implementation 1. New interpolation syntax is introduced for " and "&...

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Well at least I can say it's been well discussed

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This is likely one of those things where I'm just going to have to suck it up

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Damn, closed a couple years ago. Can't seem to find anything beyond this

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I need to poke around and see if I can find good elm code examples... see how other people tackle this

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I've just been so spoiled it's hard to want to go back, you know?

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 5:53 PM

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so what is this elm all about

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why should there be a functional language for writing web interfaces

undone berry May 5, 2020, 5:55 PM

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idiomatic JS is already written in a pretty functional way

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at least for some purposes

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so just take that idea and run with it

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 5:57 PM

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The reasons they boast are:

No runtime exceptions. You have to handle all possible paths the program can take before it'll let you properly compile.
Performance: According to their benchmarks (which of course always take with a grain of salt), it is more performant than other things like Ember, React and Angular (1 and 2)
Size: The assets it needs to run are TINY compared to others like Vue, Angular, and React.
Is interoperable with JavaScript: If you want to integrate some Elm into your existing JS code base, it's fairly simple to do so.

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I'm mainly looking at it for the coding style and the runtime exceptions

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And I've been on a weird functional language bender for a little while

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Trying to find one I enjoy

jagged fog May 5, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Ah I've set up github action thing for flake8 lint but the PR was opened before I added the action pepe_cry

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can I manually trigger the check

pine vector May 5, 2020, 8:53 PM

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push an empty commit is how i've done that in the past

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:26 PM

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~~nicki minaj is a horrible skank but i can't help being turned on by her. what is WRONG with me~~

jagged fog May 5, 2020, 10:26 PM

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pepe_sweaty thank you for your info kind stranger

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:26 PM

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don't worry

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:26 PM

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You've been muted for similar stuff in the past - a suggestion from me is that you just stop talking about it

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assuming you don't want to get muted that is

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:27 PM

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oh right

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I have

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cinco de mayo celebrations got the best of me.

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I only realised it was Cinco De Mayo like an hour ago and am for some reason slightly sad I can't have tacos

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Oh hey retroactive justification

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:29 PM

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@gentle moss what's up

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you horrible skank

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:30 PM

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Reading your weird shit.

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Should calm down fella

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:30 PM

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cool as a cucumber.

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but duly noted.

bleak lintel May 5, 2020, 10:30 PM

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@rough sapphire yep, calm it with the comments like https://canary.discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/463035241142026251/707357490546868275, you've been warned before for stuff like this remember

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:31 PM

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Being drunk isn't an excuse

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:31 PM

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@bleak lintel got it 👍

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small slipup. momentary lapse of reason.

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Really wish I could get over this light headedness/shortness of breath

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I'd say I have covid but this has been going on far too long for that

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Have you seen a doctor?

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:34 PM

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are you sure it's not psychological? anxiety?

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:34 PM

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No it's not like.... anxiety spike kind of thing

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Not sure how to describe it

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:34 PM

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that's good to know

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:34 PM

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Yeah my meds are keeping me pretty stable

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I have my good and bad days but I'm never straight up panicking

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:35 PM

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something about blood pressure?

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Possibly

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And it could be linked to me not eating properly through the day

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When I had my yearly physical I was in tip top shape

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Well okay, I'm out of shape

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But my blood work was fine

cedar hamlet May 5, 2020, 10:37 PM

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well let me tell you somethign @plucky ridge in my country blood work are always fine

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:38 PM

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As in don't believe just the bloodwork?

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I'd normally agree but my doc has called me out on stuff in it before

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:38 PM

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it could be something as simple as allergies

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they can come out of nowhere

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:39 PM

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True enough. It is Spring allergy season for me.

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But this has been going on for a while

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:39 PM

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is it possible to develop allergies as an adult if you haven't had any before?

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Absolutely

cedar hamlet May 5, 2020, 10:39 PM

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yeah

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it is

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:40 PM

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but how rare is it?

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Allergies as a whole are pretty weird

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:40 PM

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I think it's uncommon but not specifically rare?

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Not sure

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Stuff like peanut allergies aren't necessarily with you from birth

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:40 PM

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I was lactose intolerant for like... a year?

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Turns out it was stress from my ex

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Lactose intolerance is the default for humans

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Legitimately

cedar hamlet May 5, 2020, 10:40 PM

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i'm allergic at a medicine ,when i was little i didn't had problems

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:40 PM

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True

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:41 PM

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but, its not in the west I don't think

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:41 PM

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I'm allergic to Penicillin

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It suuuuuucks

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:41 PM

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@plucky ridge that's super interesting because I've been diagnosed with lactose intolerance but I've noticed that it kinda seems to come and go

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:41 PM

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I'm like a bit allergic to bee strings

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:41 PM

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That's entirely possible, wake

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It's dependent on your gut microbiome

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Is it really that bad? Normally I thought antibiotics could be subbed out for each other

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for the most part

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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They can, but the ones I have to take instead tear up my stomach

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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ah - that definitely sucks

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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They have different reactions internally

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Some cause more damage than others

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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I know there's one that makes you vomit if you drink alcohol

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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And more brutal

cedar hamlet May 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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yeah there are some antibiotics very powerfull that distroy your gut good bacterias and causes a lot of trouble

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:42 PM

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So while they can all be used as antibiotics

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:43 PM

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I know there's one that makes you vomit if you drink alcohol
Oh, you mean more alcohol

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:43 PM

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They can be different levels of awful

cedar hamlet May 5, 2020, 10:43 PM

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look up for clostridium difficile stuff

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i think that is the worst case

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:43 PM

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The default for antibiotics is for them to tell you not to drink booze

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But there is one that reacts super badly if you do

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Ohhhh yeah, C. Diff is scary shit

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:43 PM

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I'm just never gonna get sepsis or anything that requires antibiotics

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that's what Ive decided

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:44 PM

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My wife thought the same thing

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Then bam

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Sepsis

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Pro-tip, bathe in alcohol every time you get cut

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:44 PM

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if there weren't so many people on this discord i'd tell you a story from my life

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Boom

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:44 PM

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from last summer

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Pickle yourself.

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Can I carry on with the normal alcohol baths?

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:44 PM

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You guys have expensive habits

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Little bit of dill, little bit of pepper, make sure to sterilise the jar

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Screw the lid on from the inside

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No sepsis

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Plus, probably delicious.

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:45 PM

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Make sure to add a couple hard boiled eggs for good measure

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OH actually!

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I learned a thing

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:45 PM

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And a cucumber

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:45 PM

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When they pickle eggs, they don't have to shell them

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Yes

cedar hamlet May 5, 2020, 10:46 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/cucumber-cucumbah-song-rap-vitamins-gif-9736495

Tenor

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Since the vinegar will just eat the shell away

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I never thought about that

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Yup

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Calcium carbonate type shit

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Yeppers

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Little thongs are magical to learn

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Take THAT eggs! Your perfect shape doesn't mean shit to white vinegar!

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Thongs

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Things

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Fucking Swype

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Swype wants you to wear more sandals

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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I've never had a picked egg - but every single time I've been in a fish and chip shop, I've thought about buying one

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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They're worth trying

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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You know a common way to eat them?

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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I like the idea of pickled onions, but I'd have to make my own

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Whloe

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Into my mouth

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Get a pack of salt and vinegar crisps

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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The thing is, I don't actually believe they're on sale in the fish and chip shops - they're just decoration

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Dump the egg in there

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Shake it around

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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∂asdf

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Could ask

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

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I'm nom nom

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Why would you have to make your own? @sand goblet

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Wake what are you doing?

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Because where would I get them

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Tesco

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Nope

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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They're everywhere

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Do they just not exist in IE?

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Wtf

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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They do, but not there

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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We talking pickled eggs still?

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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I guess we didn't British you hard enough

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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They're easy enough to make

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Picked onions

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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pickled onions

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Ah right right

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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tbf - homemade pickled onions are pretty great

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Time for round 583529673 of British rule

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Man you don't realize how used to a keyboard you are until you use a different one

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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I'd also like to make actual pickles but where do you even find gherkins that aren't already pickles

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

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I....

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I can't answer that one

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Never seen them

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:50 PM

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I know they're mini cucumbers but that's all I know

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:50 PM

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📎 Homemade-Sour-Gherkins-2-of-5.png

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From some dude's garden

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:50 PM

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Yes

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:50 PM

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they look pretty weird

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:50 PM

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they grow under ground

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:50 PM

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They look weird as pickles too

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:50 PM

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what are they? I mean pickles

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cucumbers

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they're carbohydrates right? starch?

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:51 PM

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that's a good point - but things from jars are allowed to be weird - plants aren't allowed to be weird unless they live in the rainforest

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Normal cucumbers aren't starchy I don't think

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:51 PM

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okay so they're not like potatoes, turnips or carrots

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Carrots are starchy?

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:51 PM

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carrots can be, I think

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I imagine...?

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Potatoes I totally see it

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:52 PM

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well rice can be. whatever. rice and carrots are basically the same thing.

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:52 PM

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O.o

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:52 PM

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I mean rice is just straight carbs

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Cucumbers are more.... water

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:52 PM

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🍚 🥕

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Cucumbers are 88% water

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:52 PM

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Cucumbers are just water yeah

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:52 PM

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oh wait

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carrots are 88% water

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:52 PM

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you guys are so drunk

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:52 PM

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You might need to go to bed wake

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:p

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Go to drunk, you're bed

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:53 PM

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@gentle moss i'm just getting started. it's a joke. trust me.

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Man we should totally have pity mutes

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:53 PM

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this is an actual joke

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:53 PM

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cucumbers are 95% water

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:53 PM

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On a Minecraft server I used to run we banned people when they were supposed to be asleep

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:53 PM

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So they're 5% human

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Interesting

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:53 PM

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yeah - that's my main takeaway

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:54 PM

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No that's soylent

plucky ridge May 5, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Soylent cucum- god damn it

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Soylent green is people

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:54 PM

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They are green

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:54 PM

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the other 5% is a human who was afraid of sepsis

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:54 PM

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Haha, hem

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:55 PM

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so did we establish that tomatoes, cucumbers etc. have water ergo are in a totally different category than potatoes etc?

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:55 PM

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I mean all plants have water

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:55 PM

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well yes

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pretty much everything has water

gusty oar May 5, 2020, 10:55 PM

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water has water also

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what an information

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:56 PM

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@sand goblet did you know that the microwave oven works by turning the electric dipole of the H20 molecule?

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Potato is 79% water, carrot is 88% water, cucumber is 95% water

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Did not need that ping

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Iceberg lettuce is 200% water and everyone should hate it

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:58 PM

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the only reason any lettuce exists is to provide texture to something better

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Mostly because it sank the Titanic

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:58 PM

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so - it doesn't really matter

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Iceberg lettuce is the only good lettuce

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 10:58 PM

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🥁

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Some lettuces have flavour

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:58 PM

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It's just crispy water though

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:58 PM

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I think we'll have to do a test

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Lambs leaf lettuce is good

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:58 PM

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a test that will lettuce see the best one

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:59 PM

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It's lambs leaf

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:59 PM

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I'm not a salad person

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:59 PM

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It's kinda sweet

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 10:59 PM

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If I buy lettuce it's going into a kebab or something

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:59 PM

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Stems have some crunch

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Good for an actual salad

undone berry May 5, 2020, 10:59 PM

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If I buy lettuce it's going into a kebab or something
The objectively correct application of lettuce

gentle moss May 5, 2020, 10:59 PM

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But if I'm doing a burger I'll go for European lettuce

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Remain lettuce

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Badumtshhhhhh

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Off to bed.

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o/

sand goblet May 5, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Damn, you know, we should make kebabs next week

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The kebab places here all suck

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They're like genuinely amazingly bad

undone berry May 5, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Mine are all hit or miss

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sometimes they're great, most of the time pretty shit

soft violet May 5, 2020, 11:37 PM

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We have a Greek grill place here.

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Always smells good when they have their stuff at festival time.

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Big rotating horizontal column over a charcoal basin.

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We usually grab from one of the pizza places here, for food, though, when we do

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When we did.

undone berry May 5, 2020, 11:43 PM

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can still get takeaway here. Are you just choosing not to, or are they actually shut?

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choosing not to seems like a pretty sensible choice

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 11:45 PM

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@undone berry if I send you the list of files I need to download, you wanna get them?

undone berry May 5, 2020, 11:46 PM

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not right now. Currently all my programming effort is being spent on Android - I can do it tommorow if you like tho

rough sapphire May 5, 2020, 11:47 PM

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where do i send it

undone berry May 5, 2020, 11:47 PM

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DMs + paste service

crisp sierra May 6, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Nothing strictly Python related here but thought some people might be into this
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/definitive-guides-to-all-things-programming-oreilly-books

Humble Bundle

Humble Book Bundle: Definitive Guides to All Things Programming by ...

Pay what you want for awesome ebooks and support charity!

soft violet May 6, 2020, 4:32 AM

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@undone berry Choosing to not.

rough sapphire May 6, 2020, 7:09 AM

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where in the terms and conditions of a website do they usually say you can't scrape stuff

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if they don't mention if, it means you can right?

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Scraping is normally a pain. If they don't have an API then the admins can change anything at anytime for any reason

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A ToS normally will detail that kind of stuff, yes.

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went through the ToS.. it says I can't redistribute anything for profit.. that's about it

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I want to scrape the multiple choice questions off of a training website.. all the questions are in different modules. I think it'd be useful for a certification exam

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Greatly depends on what the site is.

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qwiklabs.. it hosts courses for GCP

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Any specific subdomain?

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Because their www robots.txt has

User-agent: *
Disallow: *keywords=
Disallow: *catalog_rank=
Disallow: *filter=
Disallow: *page=

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awww

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I'm sure I can provide login and do this

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You shall not, and will not allow third parties under your control to: (i) license, sublicense, sell, resell, transfer, assign, distribute, or otherwise commercially exploit or make available to any third party the Service in any way, except as expressly authorized in this Agreement; (ii) modify (except as permitted through the Lab Creation Service (if you have a Creator role)) or make derivative works based upon the Service; (iii) reverse engineer the Service and/or any component thereof; (iv) access the Service in order to build a competitive product or service; (v) build a product using similar ideas, features, functions, or graphics of the Service, or (vi) copy any ideas, features, functions, or graphics of the Service.

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I'm not sure, honestly. Seems to me like a weird gray area

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I would basically list every link that turns up for Data Engineering check if it's a page that contains then q1-multiple-choice tag

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commercially exploit or redistribute or make competitive product.. dont think so, I want to use it to study, but does seem too much work that I can't reproduce for something else lol

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I've brought it up to others for their input as I have to go to sleep

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good night Scott

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i anal, but i'd say go for it

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with discretion, ie don't go bombarding their servers with requests

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nn scott

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yeah.. slip a sleep() in there between requests so I don't get bounced

tulip palm May 6, 2020, 8:15 AM

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this was quite a pretty formation, don't mind me. ^^

📎 yay.png

sand goblet May 6, 2020, 8:18 AM

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Look at you, not playing on the PyCraft server :>

tulip palm May 6, 2020, 8:20 AM

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haha, of course you'd say that.

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i'm running a little private server with friends on the latest snapshot, it's fun ^^

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the last version of minecraft i really played (and took the time to enjoy) was like 1.10

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so there's a lot of new and different stuff, but i'm quite liking most of it so far.

sinful turtle May 6, 2020, 10:51 AM

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woah

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abcde :vim:` :vim:*`

if you type this message then discord stops responding

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that's a very weird bug

bleak lintel May 6, 2020, 11:08 AM

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huh

forest swan May 6, 2020, 11:10 AM

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🤔

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seems like any server emoji will make it bug out, and the star is optional
the letters in front can be almost anything, as long as there are at least 5 of them

sand goblet May 6, 2020, 11:21 AM

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Question is what happens if someone uses a selfbot or something to send it to a channel

forest swan May 6, 2020, 11:25 AM

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doesn't seem to break anything

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abcde vim :vim:*

sand goblet May 6, 2020, 11:37 AM

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hm, yeah.

sinful turtle May 6, 2020, 11:38 AM

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it's fine when you type it on mobile (because emojis aren't previewed)

forest swan May 6, 2020, 11:39 AM

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yeah, I sent it by turning preview markdown syntax & emoji off

sinful turtle May 6, 2020, 11:40 AM

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oh right

soft violet May 6, 2020, 12:13 PM

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"Doesn't seem to break anything." Meanwhile, somewhere in the world at a server farm: "Do you smell burning?"

gentle moss May 6, 2020, 12:44 PM

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trying to dig out that juggling video for you @undone berry

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i found it kind of interesting, the methods of building up the skills required to go from 2 balls to 3 etc

undone berry May 6, 2020, 12:45 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WRqpvVXM0k This was the video that made me decide to learn. It's not really a tutorial or guide to learning, just some guy talking about how/why he learned to juggle

YouTube

2kliksphilip

How 2 Juggle Like Me

How 2 Juggle like Me. If you're stuck inside with nothing better to do, you can have some fun playing with some balls.
0:00 - Basic juggling
0:59 - Basic tricks
2:06 - More advanced tricks
3:22 - Tips
3:57 - Making your own balls
5:17 - My juggling story

▶ Play video

gentle moss May 6, 2020, 12:46 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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okay that's cool, when did that happen?

undone berry May 6, 2020, 12:46 PM

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Relatively recently, like within a few weeks

gentle moss May 6, 2020, 12:46 PM

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super nifty.

undone berry May 6, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Yeah, it really is

gentle moss May 6, 2020, 12:47 PM

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hmm... i started with 2 ball juggling

rough sapphire May 6, 2020, 12:49 PM

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must resist joke

gentle moss May 6, 2020, 12:52 PM

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can't find that talk, curse you internet.

soft violet May 6, 2020, 12:54 PM

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I've got a decent 3 ball skill level.

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Tried to pick up 4. Didn't really figure it out.

gentle moss May 6, 2020, 12:55 PM

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apparently some numbers are easier than others.

soft violet May 6, 2020, 12:56 PM

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I've also crocheted balls.

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Filled them with Christmas beads.

gentle moss May 6, 2020, 12:57 PM

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oh cool

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we got some ages ago and i go back to them every now and then and go

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"fuck me juggling is difficult."

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then stop again. :D

rough sapphire May 6, 2020, 12:58 PM

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it's easier if you have a unicycle, i imagine

undone berry May 6, 2020, 12:58 PM

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The ones I bought from amazon seem like they're not gonna last at all long

soft violet May 6, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Never tried a unicycle.

deep drum May 6, 2020, 12:59 PM

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ugh overzealous IDE suggestions just going ham on my code be like

gentle moss May 6, 2020, 1:00 PM

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i feel like buying a unicycle makes you "that guy"

undone berry May 6, 2020, 1:00 PM

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which guy? The coolest guy in town?

deep drum May 6, 2020, 1:00 PM

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better_than_you.bmp

gentle moss May 6, 2020, 1:00 PM

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i have tried to ride one before, it's kinda tricky

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didn't really like it

soft violet May 6, 2020, 1:00 PM

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I've got decent balance. I could probably manage it.

gentle moss May 6, 2020, 1:01 PM

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guy i used to skate with was a unicycle and juggling guy

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but he was also sick as fuck at skating and magic tricks

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so that balanced out the unicycle juggling