which is a shame because now would be the perfect time to make my little switch management project
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
thorn snow
what do you want to do?
also, what kind of switches?
when we say switch at work, it really is a 10.000€ juniper l3 router 😄
gentle moss
nah, these are just some TP-Link jetstream jobs
the idea is to create a nice easy to use website to allow my co-workers to setup VLANs etc
so they can specify an end point and have it propagate down
pet project more than anything
tbh i'm quite pleased with the performance of the TP-Link switches
pretty damn robust considering the price point
if you're fine with china stealing all your secrets
thorn snow
yeah, but I don't see the point of managed for home use
I just didn't want my network to go completely down when my router decides to update
but I guess for office they are nice
gentle moss
i got one for home use with the lofty goal of putting all the IoT shit on it
then i was like "nah fuck it"
Bring on the mini-big mac
deep drum
forest swan
it's almost like you're dividing by zero 🤔
gentle moss
oh shit
@rough sapphire @undone berry
brooker is doing a covid special
a wipe. :D
thorn snow
undone berry
Oh thats actually pretty damn fantastic
absolute perfect thing for him to wipe. Everything surrounding it has been shit. Most governmental/organisational response, media response, idiots responses. Absolute perfect for the tone of the show and absolute shit for the world
pearl horizon
Reading back to earlier talk about parallel ports.. I think the last I used one was mid 90's but I remember seeing them in computers at least the next 5-10 years. Just depended on how old it was. But by that time, hardly ever used
Think the last peripherals using parallel ports would be printers, or possibly joysticks. For me I only used printers with parallel ports. I was lucky enough to have a USB 1.0 joystick back in the day lol
thorn snow
IDE was parallel
gentle moss
printers. joysticks used the "game port"
i remember having to buy a sound card just to get a game port
pearl horizon
I never used an external drive. At least back then. First external I had was closer to 2010, USB. Such a piece of shit I refuse to buy another external drive
pearl horizon
I remember my first motherboard without a floppy connector. Felt genuinely concerned I wouldnt be able to use my Linux live floppies anymore
Haha nice. I had something similar to that. Maybe even the same one
gentle moss
no floppy had me concerned about BIOS flashing
thorn snow
I wanted to get into floppy music, but it was impossible to find floppies for a nice price
about 5 years ago
pearl horizon
My first dedicated gpu was an Radeon 2000 32mb or something like that. Cost me a fortune - like $50!
thorn snow
VODOO
gentle moss
Voodoo 2 then a TNT2
pearl horizon
The coolest thing I ever did with a floppy was write a bootloader in assembly. It was able to 'boot' the computer, enable 16-bit mode in the cpu, and print a single character to the screen. Then just sat there nop'ing until you power cycled
thorn snow
gentle moss
i'm really impressed by some of that hardware music
the guy with the fucking orchestra setup is cray
scanners, hdd's and flops
he uses the read arm to create percussion with the HDD's
:D
pearl horizon
Ima have to check that out once I get back on the computer. Never really looked into floppy music. But the sound of floppies being read is strangely soothing, much like dialup connections haha
thorn snow
The dialup sounds actually mean something
It's basically the modems negotiating a speed
ethernet still does this, just without sound
gentle moss
what always gets me is that they didn't have to pipe that sound out the modem
pearl horizon
Yep. I didn't know what was going on with it, but eventually I read into the meaning of individual chirps
gentle moss
but it was reassuring to hear it
thorn snow
pearl horizon
Tried setting the option string to quiet it, but the syntax was weird, I was like 13 and broke it every time I tried to change it lol
gentle moss
some of my later modems just had a mute button on them
pearl horizon
I believe the modem sound output comes from further back in history. The original computer modems would not connect to a phone line. You would place the handset of the phone over the ports on the modem so that basically the modem speaker/mic talks to the phone
thorn snow
as seen in Wargames
pearl horizon
At least that's how I've read it. Never got online until around early 90s
thorn snow
No, you would put the phone on a speaker
thorn snow
and the tones of the modem get transmitted like that
pearl horizon
I imagine that's partly where the nohup signal name comes from in *nix
thorn snow
well speaker and mic
gentle moss
old style modems
thorn snow
gentle moss
yeah, i'm with you now
pearl horizon
Yep. Speaker talks to your phone, phone talks to modem mic
gentle moss
such a classic
thorn snow
CSI
undone berry
I feel like that NCIS technical scene is the result of someone with actual technical knowledge wanting to fuck with other nerds so included the dumbest hacking scene he could
undone berry
Anyone whos' used a typewrite knows 2 people can't use a keyboard together - its honestly pretty hilarious
gentle moss
oh yeah, it's dull as shit
pearl horizon
Nice video. Haven't seen War games I don't think
gentle moss
it's just... not exciting
thorn snow
I mean, I can send off a hping3 and you don't see shit
you can't even tell if it worked most of the time
pearl horizon
I did something similar in high school actually
thorn snow
like a reflection attack has no visible output for you
pearl horizon
Obviously not hacking into the school or anything. But I did scan a few report cards and photoshop them so parents don't get upset for my friends lol
gentle moss
"yeah i just sent a phishing email to the CEO. he opened the attachment and now i have presence on his machine. i'll sit and sniff some NTLM hashes and try some replay attacks over the next two months."
pearl horizon
Was a little tricky because they used some watermarks and background patterns to prevent photoshop edits. Managed to line everything up perfectly. Their background pattern was too easy 😆
gentle moss
"i found this massive cache of documents, dunno what they are but they're under a 'payroll' folder. i'll just exfiltrate them over the course of half a year."
thorn snow
@pearl horizon You should watch it, it is such a good movie
gentle moss
"oh i was just scanning the internet and this dipshit left his S3 bucket unsecured. loads of stuff in here."
thorn snow
you may or may not find something on yt regarding that full movie
pearl horizon
Looks like something I'd be interested in. Pretty sure I saw Hackers, or Shoes or something like that
Wait, sneakers. Not shoes lmao
thorn snow
Wargames is one of the first hacker movies and it is praised until today
gentle moss
"hey man, i've got control over this municipal water supply in France."
"oh cool, how'd you break in?"
"break in? they left a VNC open to the internet with no authentication."
thorn snow
Another good one is Jonny Mnemonic
undone berry
I think it was Wargames where the US president asked technical people if it was possible - and they answered maybe
thorn snow
@gentle moss What about it bisk?
gentle moss
"he could launch nukes with a phone and a whistle!"
pearl horizon
Wasn't there in the past several years a real life event where a nuclear reactor monitor/control system was hacked into? Might have been a US Navy vessel
thorn snow
The encryption based on the picture actually made sense
gentle moss
i love that movie, it's so bad.
i don't want to spoil the big surprise for anyone who hasn't seen it
thorn snow
I mean I know what you mean, probably, it's still sci fi
but the principles were sound
undone berry
I know that depressingly recently, there was a bunch of stuff completely exposed to the internet that definitely shouldn't have been https://www.wired.com/story/nuclear-plant-cryptomining-bec-scam-xbox-security-roundup/ - theres a solid example Cryptocurrency Miners Expose Nuclear Plant to Internet
gentle moss
oh lord
pearl horizon
That's possibly the one I was thinking of. But yeah, lots and lots of 'it was already open' breaches last few years
undone berry
Just get rid of the users and it will be fine
pearl horizon
Also found a interesting read on Stripe and their 'feature' where they track user mouse movements on seemingly any page which has the Stripe Javascript file included -- even if it is never actually called
pearl horizon
nice! new blog post i started last night is now finished, and deployed onto GitHub Pages
not really very good at writing stuff for blog entries at the moment. but i can sure as hell write a lot
figure the more i get into it, the better i'll get. as an added bonus, using bootstrap for the layout/design of the site and i figured out how to make those nifty warning/info/message boxes through rST
undone berry
What was it about?
pearl horizon
Basically it details two different methods to push static-site generator content onto GitHub Pages. Either the username page, or the project-level page. Kind of just reiterates the standard steps for doing so, but also including my own thoughts on the process and the methods I use to keep it simple
placid torrent
soft violet
Looks like rwxr-xr-x with a setuid and setgid.
So the owner can read, write, and execute, and group members and plebeians can read and execute.
rough sapphire
Actually execute permission for the world is not a very good idea
pearl horizon
Right, generally I use 750. At least for the stuff in my webserver docroot anyway
I think at least. Not feeling to go digging in there and it's been a while since I have. I need sleep anyway
tacit flint
where do file permissions / security contexts / ACLs get stored?
gentle moss
ah fuck sake
i have to go into the office to PAT test equipment -.-
well that's saturday fucked up
gentle moss
[01:54] aliver: Actually execute permission for the world is not a very good idea
depends on the context, but without execute perms for all you can't browse directories
as an example.
having to traverse a 750/640 file system, zzz
hey @rough sapphire
check this blackbird i saw yesterday eating mah bwed
stuck meteor
does someone know how to specify what python version to use for running a py script in kali linux?
like ./Script.py
gentle moss
you can sometimes get away with a shebang
#!/usr/bin/python
type thing
although the best way is to use env
#!/usr/bin/env python3.6 f.ex
stuck meteor
where to put this, at the beginning of script?
gentle moss
yup, first line.
a little bit about shebangs
there are a number of uses for them
including preventing standalone execution
stuck meteor
like i don't know, i run the script, it starts , but when it comes to put a command it just crashes
and shows this error
gentle moss
i couldn't possibly say, especially without seeing the script
gentle moss
a quick google seems to suggest it's a malloc problem
gentle moss
yeah, that's all i'm seeing.
maybe it's something to do with the underlying parts of python. you might want to ask in a help channel?
stuck meteor
not sure if its related to python
rough sapphire
sourceforge servers in nutshell
rough sapphire
ahh there are some files on one of my window remote desktop and i wanna share 'em so........
rough sapphire
I wanna do it over internet
so it is easy for everyone
why are you using windows?
as a server
I mean I don't know why I'm not using so might as well ask 🤔
aws always offers to setup windows servers but i've never done it
maybe it's worth trying
does it require a license or something
windows as a server
no
@rough sapphire have you tried it
don't
it is my secondary workbench
unfortunately yes
@rough sapphire what's wrong with it
cuz i run things on very low bandwidth on my own PC
my first few minecraft servers ran on a windows server
"what's wrong with it" it's ass from a management perspective
gentle moss
AWS windows servers cost more than linux servers. but if you're on free tier i imagine that's not a problem.
rough sapphire
can i setup active directory on linux
gentle moss
no.
rough sapphire
well people seem to be very vocal about it at least...
gentle moss
there are linux alternatives to AD but they don't work as well at managing a windows environment.
kerberos / OpenLDAP
for managing a company loaded with Windows machines, a Windows server is the best solution.
gentle moss
it's not out yet, it's in progress.
solid pollen
I guess yeah, for managing access to windows machine, using windows server is fair
rough sapphire
I no want php now
gentle moss
not just access, but also configuring the computers etc.
group policy allows you to tightly control what desktops in the fleet can / can't do
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire go find "visual c++ runtime installation" you need them
the version number needs to be that one
Fuck wamp then
it's not a WAMP problem
gentle moss
to paraphrase Peter O'Hanra-Hanrahan @solid pollen: i don't like it, but i'll have to go along with it.
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire just install them, many programs need it
solid pollen
Yep, that's how Windows work
rough sapphire
I am just gonna ssh into my other linux server and upload it there and can download it from that server then easy as that
rough sapphire
I have 6 linux and 1 windows server
@gentle moss so there is a wolf, two lambs, and a carrot
gentle moss
haha world
rough sapphire
sorry, a cabbage
rough sapphire
lol
gentle moss
cross the river
rough sapphire
🛬
done
wah my last two yoghurts went bad
went halfway through them but couldn't eat them.
gentle moss
have you thought about maybe installing a LAMP stack on one of those linux servers?
rough sapphire
I'd think about linux+nginx+postgresql+php stack
gentle moss
a LEPP stack
rough sapphire
LAMP
Apache mysql php
what's the E?
and one more something with L name
what was that
gentle moss
Linux.
rough sapphire
yeah
gentle moss
Linux, Apache, Mysql, PHP
rough sapphire
That is a good naming
solid pollen
I mean.. MySQL, PHP.. How hard do you hate yourself?
gentle moss
wouldn't call it a noob stack, some people have legitimate reasons to use apache
gentle moss
how so?
rough sapphire
apache is best
f nginx
well that's certainly a dividing opinion for no reason
what's wrong with mysql?
mysql compared to postgresql is like comparing javascript to anything else
gentle moss
that's dumb
rough sapphire
not really
solid pollen
I quite like nginx personally
gentle moss
so dumb.
rough sapphire
apache2 is the easiest thing i have ever seen
gentle moss
yes, apache2 is easier to setup for PHP than Nginx.
gentle moss
mysql runs a shit load of the planet my friend
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire for instance default datatypes
and validations
validations like ACID?
and some type coercions if I remember
postgres > mysql
solid pollen
I heard some people having more issues with MySQL than other engines personally
rough sapphire
@solid pollen because mysql is far more used than other engines
gentle moss
^
rough sapphire
there's something quite amusing to me about being on a python discord where people are shitting on php and don't see the irony
solid pollen
Yeah
gentle moss
besides if you're comparing postgres to mysql the most important thing you should mention is that postgres is object-related
rather than pure relational
¯_(ツ)_/¯
solid pollen
if you say so haha
rough sapphire
I mean I'm no DB expert but I've read things like this too many times https://blog.ionelmc.ro/2014/12/28/terrible-choices-mysql/
you can dig that out for anything if you look enough
I store my data in discord channels
why backup
when you have discord storing it
solid pollen
and he actually do it haha
rough sapphire
Linus Torvalds: “Real men don’t use backups, they post their stuff on a public ftp server and let the rest of the world make copies.”
^
@gentle moss interesting
gentle moss
neither is better than the other
rough sapphire
neither is better than the other
@gentle moss this
gentle moss
in certain areas they're bound to outperform each other
rough sapphire
also this
gentle moss
the biggest bitch about mysql is how it sometimes deviates from SQL standards
and the fact it's owned by Oracle
so just use MariaDB instead.
:D
rough sapphire
and the fact it's owned by Oracle
@gentle moss that is the single biggest reason people hate on it i think
i still stand by postgresql for now. the biggest flaw with is that the name is pronounced stupidly: postgres-ql
gentle moss
yeah. i moved our company away from MySQL onto MariaDB because fuck big red.
MariaDB is functionally identical to MySQL anyhow.
rough sapphire
on the subjet of dbs, have you done any work with mongo bisk?
gentle moss
no and i hear it's a tyre fire so i plan not to
rough sapphire
@undone berry how close are we to a finished game? should we go make one
lets see the speed of aws (asia-mumbai) machine to google(us-west) machine
uploading to google from aws
undone berry
Well, I just woke up. The backend is ahead of the frontend at this point. I'll push what I have in a little while, and carry on working at it
rough sapphire
@undone berry mmkay. i'll just dick around until somebody yells at me again.
perfect
gentle moss
remember that cross region data transfers in AWS cost more than local
i doubt you're downloading enough to break the free tier limit
just a heads up
rough sapphire
forgot to censor the name of the file =-___--=
gentle moss
not doing piracy on AWS i hope ¬_¬
rough sapphire
not piracy
outer berry
does this type of circle collision have a name..? 
rough sapphire
mitosis
outer berry
well yes
stuck meteor
hi
export PS1="\[\e[31m\]\u@\[\e[m\]\[\e[31m\]\h\[\e[m\]\[\e[36m\]:\W\[\e[m\]# "
im trying to customize kali linux's terminal
does anyone know how to make : white?
rough sapphire
you want to make white with ANSI?
plucky ridge
I'm sure there's plenty
sand goblet
I suppose so
rough sapphire
4-bit
Before \033[37mTEXT_GOES_HERE\033[m After
8-bit
Before \033[38;5;15mTEXT_GOES_HERE\033[m After
24-bit (rgb)
Before \033[38;2;255;255;255mTEXT_GOES_HERE\033[m After
is that snippet clear enough?
plucky ridge
just a bit
rough sapphire
i can clarify if anyone wants to learn it
otherwise i'm gonna go back to playing battlefront
plucky ridge
I was just making a crappy bit joke
Well actualy
So opening square brackets do what exactly?
rough sapphire
it's just part of the ansi escape sequence
plucky ridge
Ah okay
rough sapphire
\033[{stuff}m
urban night
What games are you playing now
rough sapphire
yeah it does a bit, the \033[m is an empty sequence which basically stops your change
sand goblet
Borderlands 3 here
rough sapphire
otherwise everything will stay white or whatever
plucky ridge
Ah okay
rough sapphire
then you've got the code where i put stuff
sand goblet
Also Minecraft but yknow. Old habits die hard.
plucky ridge
Also Minecraft but yknow. Old habits die hard.
Suddenly trying to imagine Bruce Willis playing Minecraft
rough sapphire
ANSI evolved over time so a single number e.g. 37 for white, was built upon and you got 38;5;(colour value)
and then evolved again so you got 38;2;(r);(g);(b)
it's not as bad as what you might think
but the tutorials out there suck
# Clear screen and reset cursor
print("\033[2J\033[H")
80s action film stars didn't really need to act
sand goblet
pine vector
nope. just grab a hammer.
sand goblet
I use the corner of a countertop
rough sapphire
that's cheating
sand goblet
:>
pine vector
i actually use a large spoon in those cases. 😄
rough sapphire
bruce willis is very explicit in what he is saying there
undone berry
The real trick is to stab the top of the jar
sand goblet
Your spoon is too big.
undone berry
then you just have to drink the mayo in one go
pine vector
g, but the spoon doesn't bend. only my mind...
rough sapphire
does nobody know the knife-under-lid trick?
pop a butterknife under the lip of the lid, push the hilt towards the jar (so the tip moves outwards), get some pressure in the jar
boom
ez mode
gentle moss
i never have trouble opening jars
gf always taps the lid of the jar on a kitchen side or something and it never works
rough sapphire
bisk u strong 
gentle moss
got dem bass hands
rough sapphire
fish fingers
gentle moss
oh man that's a better name for them
gentle moss
never used one of them
i just have a clampy turn the handle one
works pretty good
i also noticed the other day i have 3 tin openers
tier 3 redundancy for opening tins
undone berry
clampy turn handle ones are fun to use
glacial owl
4 more and then you have one-for-each-day-of-the-week set.
jagged fog
I'm trying to profile with PyCharm bit it doesn't do anything, runs fine but doesnt display any statistics 
porque
even when manually clicking save snapshoot
I'm pretty sure it has something to do with running the project as module not a script
sand goblet
in Ireland at least, it's illegal for a company to send you emails and not allow you to opt out
since long before GDPR
so most emails have an unsubscribe link
stark prawn
That's an eu thing
sand goblet
so let's say you click the unsubscribe link and..
your anti tracking software blocks it
I wonder if there would be a case where you could require companies to not do that with legally mandatory links like that
stark prawn
Huh? This seems like it's on your blocking software
gentle moss
but the unsubscribe link is tracking you
sand goblet
yeah
gentle moss
which seems...
stark prawn
How would they know who to unsubscribe without it?
sand goblet
by just sending me to the inevitable mailchimp form
sand goblet
I get why they do it
It's because they want to know which emails people click unsubscribe on
stark prawn
You can't have unsubscribe forms, just clicking the link needs to be enough to unsubscribe.
gentle moss
i agree with that grote
that's how it should be
i should click it and it should take me somewhere that says
stark prawn
That's how the law is isn't it?
gentle moss
"we're so sorry for wasting your time with this bullshit. here have a picture of a sad panda to show how much we miss you being part of our dataset"
the form is like "why did you want to leave?" etc
sand goblet
this is an email from a kickstarter amusingly
they sent me 3 emails today
from a project that I had backed, was successful, and I already had shipped to me
Months ago.
also, this is a different subject, but I ordered a shirt today and was pleasantly surprised to find they actually ship from the EU
teepublic, thanks for that.
gentle moss
whaaaaaaaaaaaat
stark prawn
$50 shipping damn
gentle moss
yeah, when i got myself some Adam Savage tshirts the import cost was mad
stark prawn
I rarely import from abroad. But when I do it at times end up cheaper than shipping even nationally.
$2 + free shpping from china.
While national shipping is already that price
sand goblet
tell you what
Irish customs are thorough
if you import something via eg addresspal
they email you to ask you what it is and how much you paid for it
AND MAN
if you got it on kickstarter
they are not doing customs on the kickstarter price
they are doing it based on full price
gentle moss
oof
poor bastard
pre-amazon i remember my most expensive import cost was a german pop cd i had to get from a record shop in germany because nowhere else online sold it
CD was like £35 but the import tax was about £30
rough sapphire
outlook is absolutely fine
stark prawn
academic you'd use your isntitutions email
undone berry
Gmail, Outlook/live, or a personal domain all seem to be relatively common and perfectly fine for more professional purposes
stark prawn
Nothing wrong with that indeed
gentle moss
addresses not to have when applying for tech jobs
@hotmail.com
@yahoo.com
@yandex.com
undone berry
Car insurers literally charge higher for people with hotmail
gentle moss
yup
gusty oar
hmm name.surname is fine too
gentle moss
that got slapped in the face with a lawsuit
but they did
:D
my boss told me he actually treated applicants who had hotmail accounts negatively
if you're applying to a tech position with a hotmail account
get fucked
stark prawn
The car insurance industry is wild, they get away with all sorts of discrimination
gentle moss
and tbh, i don't disagree with him
undone berry
The insurance industry is built on the idea of discrimination. Just have to keep one step back from being illegal
gentle moss
indeed
undone berry
It used to be that new male drivers were charged nearly double new female drivers
in the uk
But the EU put a stop to that
gentle moss
so they raised everyone's rates
undone berry
yeah, exactly. The entire insurance industry is algorithmic prejudice
gentle moss
yup
that's why i try to avoid dealing with them as much as possible
the only time i crashed into a dude (at 5mph) i offered to pay all his repairs and signed and dated a piece of paper then and there
i kept my noclaims
he got the funds to fix shit
and my address etc
semi-binding contract
undone berry
Yeah, that seems to be the way I see most minor incidents go
exchange details, don't go through insurance unless someone tries some fuckery
gentle moss
exactly
technically i have uhhh
14 years no claims
yet i'm still paying out my ass because my car goes vroom a bit too much
stark prawn
Meanwhile I just walk.
median domeBOT
is it a big caw wid a big engine dat goes vwoom vwoom? uwu
stark prawn
A great story to tell your grand children.
undone berry
I like walking - but its not practical in a lot of the UK
gentle moss
"for most of my life i used to spend 10% of my day walking to a place where i could make money so i could have you!"
stark prawn
I'd have to walk 20 miles both way through the corona every single day.
stark prawn
yorkshire man?
undone berry
back in the olden days before the sickness, I'd walk 20-40mins a day for a sausage roll, would still hate to have been without a car tho
undone berry
Cleese's accent is quite something
stark prawn
Ah, didn't know that was the source of that
gentle moss
:D
stark prawn
I used to dream of having a corridor
gentle moss
we were evicted from our hole of the ground. we got evicted and had to go live in a lake
LUXURY
stark prawn
slice us in half with a bread knife
rough sapphire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCSUmwP02T8 this is in yorkshire
rough sapphire
k
gentle moss
nn neon
rest well my champion
tomorrow you shall rise
re-invigorated after natures replenishing salve of sleep
p.s. the spiders are trying to get in your nose
undone berry
My current sleepage is so fucked its honestly depressing and I don't know how to fix it. I go to bed at 4, wake up at 1 and feel too tired to do anything, but not the right kind of tired to sleep
gentle moss
i've literally hit that point right now
i guess mine is a bit different
i have work tomorrow, but what is work?
7/10 corps have furloughed. most of our clients are shut down.
maybe 2 tickets a day
i've been holding a normal sleep pattern through habit but fuck is it slipping
tacit flint
i'm currently on a python writers block
rough sapphire
i have work tomorrow, but what is work?
Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more?
gentle moss
i don't know why
you unpair
your device
i give you
all you need
but you don't care to hear
gimmie a sign
rough sapphire
That was too good
gentle moss
waddup @rough sapphire
gentle moss
yup, that's why i stopped using it like fucking
10 years ago
thank you, court cases about distribution of licensed media
specifically in the united states.
rough sapphire
Yeah, makes sense.
gentle moss
i guess it's just time to pay the price
rough sapphire
deciding in your youth
rough sapphire
👀
rough sapphire
hi
sand thicket
I went through python internals in the hopes to contribute to python by going through bugs.python.org
But that was too hard to even understand what's going on, leave alone fixing stuff, I wondered where everyone else began?
Mainly I am speaking of finding bugs or contributing a piece of code to python.
plucky ridge
@sand thicket When it comes to contributing to projects, the first (and really only) I've ever done is with our projects here. Honestly just learning how the whole process in general works can give you a leg up
rough sapphire
The nightmare that I had last night was that I woke up and my entire container of coffee was decaf haha
That is probably the funniest dream im ever had when i think about it
plucky ridge
All I can see in my head is you just opening it up and just being like "The fuck is this shit"
And then you wake up
Like nothing else to it
rough sapphire
That really is the only detail i recall
plucky ridge
Magical
thorn snow
I swallowed my case fans. Problem solved.
rough sapphire
okay so... trump didn't actually say that "put disinfectant in your veins"
let's be honest about that
undone berry
no one said he did - but that was what he implied
rough sapphire
he said "it might be an idea worth looking into" which is basically what any 6-year old would do when they hear that there are things that kill bacteria
gentle moss
yes, he's a moron.
"oh it kills the virus on tables and kitchen surfaces? we should look into that for people."
as if disinfectant doesn't have shit loads of warning labels over it
but i guess he'd never know that because he pays people to clean for him
and also he can't read
thorn snow
He said "maybe we should inject that"
so yeah he did and he is a freaking moron for just implying it
rough sapphire
I kinda read that he was trying to give them "science people" some advice
thorn snow
yeah well he isn't in the position to do so
rough sapphire
which he felt he was super-equipped to do
thorn snow
he does not have the brains nor the education
gentle moss
dettol and other brands have had to put out statements
telling people not to drink the stuff
because that's the world now.
a fucking moron says dumb shit on TV and his fans drink bleach
thorn snow
For example, John Carmack has always been my Idol
gentle moss
man i love carmack
i miss quakecon keynotes :(
his keynotes would basically outline what new tech was going to emerge
and damn if he wasn't right every single time
rough sapphire
so what does he do
gentle moss
works for Oculus
hearing him talk about VR is far less interesting than him talking about the future of graphics every year.
gentle moss
yeah
carmack has always been big on latency reduction
in DOOM and Quake it was one thing he heavily pushed for
id Software engines tend to feel pretty snappy compared to say, Unreal engine
so it's nice he's bringing that mentality to VR
thorn snow
He had to, to battle motion sickness with VR
gentle moss
aye
your eyes being like 100ms behind your brain would be fucky
i think i'm buying a VR set with this bonus i got
:O
can't get a super good one though
gentle moss
Quack Free Arriba
orchid hull
so, can anybody hear any voice in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCwRV1QL_Xs&feature=youtu.be
undone berry
@orchid hull yes
rough sapphire
@orchid hull make sure the site has permission to play sound in your browser
orchid hull
well, the problem is that every other video on YT works except those ones from Khanacademy
rough sapphire
It works fine for me too
low shadow
Some engine say its pup , some say trojan
gentle moss
does that need explaining?
low shadow
sometimes pup doesnt do anything except installing some programs
gentle moss
also stop pirating stuff
gentle moss
i think that DLL is from the game Mad Max
gentle moss
and the fact it's throwing up massive amounts of red flags on virus total tells me it's pirated
because i can use google.
gentle moss
no, it could be
low shadow
yeah
gentle moss
there have be many cases of pirate copies of games containing malware
low shadow
but Kaspersky didnt detect (one of good AV programs)
so i was in dilemma
whether to run or no
low shadow
hmm
gentle moss
so maybe... you know... don't run it.
low shadow
ok
how did u know its of mad max
@gentle moss
3dmgame.dll is for gta 5 and other games including madmax
buoyant river
which channel can I ask about questions related to discord bots in general ? 🤔
royal lakeBOT
Sorry, but you may only use this command within #bot-commands.
low shadow
!python
royal lakeBOT
Sorry, but you may only use this command within #bot-commands.
buoyant river
oh well I'll ask here if anyone knows. Is there a way to see the history of webhook requests I got ? like what request was sent at what time etc
buoyant river
I'll try there too then thanks.
golden walrus
does anyone want to play Drawful 2? it's ok to join my game
rough sapphire
what's drawful 2
golden walrus
a game where you are given a prompt and you draw based on it so everyone else guessed it
rough sapphire
how can one join it
golden walrus
but it's not about being fast
rough sapphire
let's say I Want to try this game once or twice
golden walrus
you can click on my profile and watch my streaming. There's going to be a delay though. Then you go to jackbox.tv and enter my room's code
you need a screen/window to watch and another one to draw. You can draw from your phone, for example
rough sapphire
i have my laptop
but I don't have anything else
too complicated. too many devices involved.
cool music though
golden walrus
it's ok
rough sapphire
it says you're offline
rough sapphire
:(
thorn snow
That dough is thicc
plucky ridge
@thorn snow If it's NSFW it's not appropriate for here
plucky ridge
You ever just like
Forget
I'm very tired
I think across 3 nights I've gotten like 4 hours of restful sleep
rough sapphire
maybe you should hit the sack, dude
plucky ridge
Still at work
rough sapphire
not sure how that's mutually exclusive
actually, this brings up a question i've always wondered about
are workspaces in the US legally required to have "rest rooms" - ie not shitters, but actual rooms where you can go rest (with like a sofa or a bed or shit)
because it's a thing in estonia
and i'm fairly certain it's an european thing
@rough sapphire hwat...?
rough sapphire
those haven't caught up in finland. I mean we probably have a legal coffee room or something but
if you have an office, you're supposed to have a room where employees can go and rest
plucky ridge
Break rooms are for certain industries
rough sapphire
not "rest room"
pine vector
yeah. not a thing here, like what hem just said. but i'm going to type it again. because hem said it.
plucky ridge
Yeah break room is the term
rough sapphire
right
plucky ridge
Sommer is my echo
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire is it really in the law
pine vector
echoes hem
plucky ridge
Sorry, what
pine vector
lol
plucky ridge
GOD if only that was appropriate to make into an ot name
rough sapphire
but my boss did say something about it being a thing
plucky ridge
Because I would in a heart beat
pine vector
plucky ridge
It's possible. I think it's more that breaks/lunches are mandatory and you usually don't want your employees to be spending their break time where they work, especially if it's something like grocery or something
So the break room just naturally comes as a part of that
pine vector
its sad that i saw this as i read hem's "Sorry, what"
plucky ridge
You're not wrong
rough sapphire
aye, an "accommodation area/break room" is required by the EU law apparently
plucky ridge
I thought it was "We are Venom"
rough sapphire
aye, an "accommodation area/break room" is required by the EU law apparently
@rough sapphire source on that? doesn't sound right to me at all
plucky ridge
Alright, this old man is heading home
pine vector
@rough sapphire from our Occupational Safety and Health Agency:
1910.141(g)
Consumption of food and beverages on the premises.
1910.141(g)(1)
Application. This paragraph shall apply only where employees are permitted to consume food or beverages, or both, on the premises.
goes on to say: can't eat in the bathroom or exposed to toxic material, and needs sanitary food storage. that's about it. there may be building codes that apply though...
and of course, state-by-state rules.
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire what if you're working remotely
annex 1, 16
¯_(ツ)_/¯
fuck knows what this means
undone berry
This provision does not apply if the workers are employed in offices or similar workrooms providing equivalent relaxation during breaks``` Sounds like they're optional if you have timed/scheduled breaksit sounds quite open to interpretation
pine vector
yeah. that sounds intended for emergency workers...but is very widely worded. 😄
rough sapphire
ah
rough sapphire
no
sand goblet
protonmail for android is now open source and has passed an independent security audit
sand goblet
I wonder what these video icons mean
That the user has a webcam? I dunno
(android alpha)
sand goblet
Huh, never seen that one before in my life
rough sapphire
Yeah, who the hell is that dude
sand goblet
Haha
rough sapphire
👀
sand goblet
@rough sapphire I see you in that channel, are they using video?
rough sapphire
@sand goblet who
sand goblet
The people in the voice channel with you
rough sapphire
no i just heard somebody say "welcome" i think
sand goblet
Ah okay
rough sapphire
but very quiet
sand goblet
Guess it's just a capability icon then
rough sapphire
what icon are you seeing
sand goblet
See above
rough sapphire
huh
I don't see them
gdude's a hacker
But yeah, it's probably just a "They have a webcam"
obtuse phoenix
hey peeps
rough sapphire
hello
thorn snow
@plucky ridge I am sure if I'd link all Mortal KOmbat finishers nobody would give a damn, but dough being kneaded is really offensive.
sand goblet
It did have a big NSFW in the title
thorn snow
@sand goblet That is used on Reddit regularly as a joke
sand goblet
Yeah, but partnered server requirements require a heavy hand
thorn snow
Come one, g, dough being kneaded isn't offensive
sand goblet
Oh, no, I know
But you get that big ol NSFW title in there
I've heard rumours of Discord staff occasionally searching messages for stuff like that
rough sapphire
@thorn snow I'm sure nobody found it particularly offensive, but we do have a younger audience here and, yes, it was dough, but the implications were pretty clear
took me a whole 3 seconds to realise that it wasn't BBC porn
gentle moss
OOOOH
it took me a second to realise what you meant by that xx.
first thought was "please not andrew marr"
rough sapphire
:D
undone berry
Andrew Neil is an interesting bloke...
I wouldn't put it past him
gentle moss
christ
i went to get some shopping stuff
coop has a strict one way policy now
i walked past the butter and remembered too late...
so i didn't get butter.
undone berry
Mine is the same - except there's a route you can take where you end up at the tills without going past anything, so its just ended up with no one following the system unless its busy af
gentle moss
they've blocked off all the cross-aisle routes in this one with promotional supplies
in some places it seems like they were running out of promotional shelves to block stuff off with
so there's a whisky promotion next to the baby aisle
undone berry
I imagine if you were locked in with a baby, you'd be looking towards whiskey pretty quickly...
sand goblet
A one way system sounds awful tbh
gentle moss
probably why there is fuck all beer left in the supermarket
white wine is looking empty too
sand goblet
They limit the number of people in a store during busy times here instead
gentle moss
i'm pretty forgetful when shopping so it's a bit of a bitch
i even wrote a list with butter bolded and underlined and still walked past it
ah well, i've got enough for a few days and some of that imposter butter
low shadow
how would i represent 10 in ASCII
like A start from 61
and 0-9 is from 48
so if i tell 10 then its newline
if i tell 48+10
then its other char but not 10
wheat lynx
10 is a 1 and a 0
pine vector
in ascii
this does not tell us anything about where/how you need to represent an ASCII character...
pine vector
can i do other things, while i wait?
are you there?
i'm thirsty...
but, i'm waiting...
wheat lynx
You aren't allowed to leave
pine vector
😬
wheat lynx
You have to send a message every minute to prove you haven't left
pine vector
could i do that with ASCII?
wheat lynx
I can't remember what the ASCII code for you have to send a message every minute to prove you haven't left is
wheat lynx
He won't know because he's left too, you're fine
But I don't know what punishment he has in mind if he finds out
He'll probably convert you to ASCII
low shadow
ok i m here
my wait meaning was before i typed
i will discuss it later i m going to eat
@low shadow
if i type something like this then leave
else stay while i show you the question
anyways
are u online @pine vector
here's a example from
C++
#include <stdio.h>
int main(int argc, char *argv){
char x = '9';
printf("%d\n",x);
}
when typed make program and ./program gives 57
when 9 is changed to 10 it gives error
similarly there was a assembly program where we would have to give ascii code to print that character
i thought if i could print 10 through ASCII but it isnt possible
He'll probably convert you to ASCII
@wheat lynx why are u so obsessed with ASCII
wheat lynx
10 is 2 characters, 1 and 0
I don't know C++ but I guess a char can only store one char
rough sapphire
you can use int to store characters too
low shadow
char x[] = '10' doesnt work wait i m trying with int
rough sapphire
double quotes to strings
low shadow
ok
rough sapphire
one quote for unique chars
low shadow
oh no it doesnt print ascii code now but memory address since array gives address as decimal
rough sapphire
Are you using the right type specifier?