let it take
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
gentle moss
no
low shadow
then how can i ping my computer from xmlhttprequest
low shadow
OOB exploitation
gentle moss
right
gentle moss
but you're not sure about what you've just set up
low shadow
then OOB testing
rough sapphire
what has that got to do with an open PHP shell?!
rough sapphire
he's running it in a virtual machine or something. that's why he doesn't care.
gentle moss
also if you're planning on using any of this to "test" exploits on a website
low shadow
i thought i could write xmlhttprequest to GET my ip so that i can prove XSS exist
from PDF
gentle moss
o_O
soft violet
You can do script injection from PDFs? Damn.
low shadow
yes
low shadow
i know
gentle moss
baby steps my dude
rough sapphire
It'll be OK as long as they don't give out their IP address, though
low shadow
i can close port forwarding or php shell if something is requested in my shell
gentle moss
were you attempting to prove that someone else's website suffers from XSS?
soft violet
@rough sapphireAbout that...
low shadow
were you attempting to prove that someone else's website suffers from XSS?
@gentle moss trying whether exist or not
alert(1) didnt succeed
gentle moss
yeah okay so that's an attempt to exploit something you may not have permission to exploit
low shadow
so maybe that was BLind XSS
gentle moss
so that's enough help for you
sand goblet
It's not really something this server deals with
gentle moss
yeah, but the problem is the knowledge can be used for malicious purposes
and we don't give out information that can be used as such so easily
so we don't directly talk about exploitation methods etc
gentle moss
plenty of other ways to learn ipv6
low shadow
how to ping my computer from .js file or send request to my computer whether its get or post
should be my actual question
rough sapphire
that smoke effect on the bounty page is pretty neat
sand goblet
You can't ping from a browser
gentle moss
plus there are many layers to that question
low shadow
anybody willing to help?
soft violet
IP addresses should be arbitrary length strings. There. IP addresses solved.
sand goblet
Onion addresses but for real machines?
low shadow
IP addresses should be arbitrary length strings. There. IP addresses solved.
@soft violet didnt understood
soft violet
I was making a joke, @low shadow
rough sapphire
we might as well use one-time padding for all of our messages.
sand goblet
Considering my previous interactions with you @low shadow I don't believe what you're doing is in good faith
low shadow
whyisnt someone suggesting me solutions for my serious problem
sand goblet
So I suspect most people here won't be willing to help
sand goblet
Anyone can drop a link in a channel.
low shadow
so anyone can test
anybody can become hacker / bug bountyhunter. Even some people find RCE mistakely
gentle moss
discovering an RCE doesn't make you a hacker ¬_¬
low shadow
RCE is the onlly thing hacker want
gentle moss
wrong
sand goblet
Hardly.
low shadow
is P2/P1 bug
RCE + PRiv escalation = ROOT ACCeSS, can run rm * or rm -rf is most dangerous, can ruin biggest organization. cause serious damage
sand goblet
Although hey, I don't expect you to listen to us lol
gentle moss
dangerous to who / what?
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire how many hours do you need to sink into learning pentesting to grasp the basics?
sand goblet
More than half of one, I'd say
low shadow
i say 10 hours course is there for beginners
gentle moss
i watched a decade worth of black hat / defcon and i still only feel slightly informed
rough sapphire
I've got a free Udemy course on it
@low shadow you haven't done a single university course and you think you know what studying is?
low shadow
no i done
i learnt Web Hacking 101
OSWAP oTV5
Web Hacking Methodology
and some shitty videos( MOre than 50+ hours)
quaint rivet
gentle moss
professional tip to be a professional hacker: find the UART port.
rough sapphire
I too have watched some shitty videos
sand goblet
Haha bisk
low shadow
professional tip to be a professional hacker: find the UART port.
@gentle moss i dont want to become hacker as much as i want to be but bug bounty hunter
gentle moss
opens boxes, searches for UART
rough sapphire
@low shadow a general study WEEK at the university will have you banging at lectures+exercises+other stuff at LEAST 40 hours per week at 100% serious level, generally more if you're serious.
soft violet
@gentle moss It'd still point you in the right direction in terms of what cracks in systems could look like. Like, "I wonder if the developer of this function accounted for this character in this input here and...zing!"
low shadow
@low shadow a general study WEEK at the university will have you banging at lectures+exercises+other stuff at LEAST 40 hours per week at 100% serious level, generally more if you're serious.
@rough sapphire i m at school level class 10
soft violet
Ways of thinking.
rough sapphire
@low shadow the point I'm making is that there are people here who have DEGREES in this stuff (read: xx)
gentle moss
yeah, watching all the black hat / defcon stuff has helped with my general security knowledge
low shadow
i know XX is genius
sand goblet
I mean if you're below the age of 18 and you're smoking weed already (like you said you were the other day) then you have bigger problems
rough sapphire
Oooh now it makes sense, they're still in school
low shadow
and talented
gentle moss
which comes in super handy as a sys/net admin
low shadow
I mean if you're below the age of 18 and you're smoking weed already (like you said you were the other day) then you have bigger problems
@sand goblet yeah u are right, people less than my age start weed, i started in 14 some in 10
soft violet
Poking and prodding at stuff in unexpected ways to see what falls spart.
low shadow
i just wanted to learn how to send request to my computer from js file
@low shadow just take it slow, that's all.
@rough sapphire
rough sapphire
@low shadow javascript lets you do that yes
sand goblet
I like the fetch api
rough sapphire
since we know it's possible and it's a very basic question, the best solution is to google it...
gentle moss
^^^
low shadow
for ipv6
gentle moss
we're not going to tell you how to do it
low shadow
not ipv4
gentle moss
it's the same for ipv6 as 4
low shadow
thats the problem
gentle moss
with a minor tweak
for sure.
i think the problem over all is you're not really grasping what you're trying to do
while trying to do it
sand goblet
ipv6 is a terrible way to exploit a vector when half of the world doesn't have ipv6
low shadow
i can t have ipv4, port forwarding isnt supported in ipv4, my ISP is shit
rough sapphire
they seem to be: try first, learn second
gentle moss
ticket system update: still no sign of the ESXi server. it doesn't appear to be on the network.
however the server's it's hosting are still up....
gentle moss
:D
low shadow
i could do it the easy way but i choose the hard way
rough sapphire
@low shadow well that's a mistake.
undone berry
What? Repeatedly asking in discord and being told no?
gentle moss
the only people you're making it hard for is us
so please for the love of jesus and all his fluffy bunnies
low shadow
@low shadow well that's a mistake.
@rough sapphire LOL
soft violet
@low shadow What do you mean port forwarding isn't supported? ISP supplied router?
low shadow
you can curl me now
rough sapphire
@low shadow serious. first: easy, then hard.
sand goblet
Trailer, for sale or rent
low shadow
sand goblet
Rooms to let, fifty cents..
low shadow
and xmlhttprequest support thsi
but i wanted for ipv6
anyways anyone wont tell me how to do it ipv6 way
low shadow
@low shadow What do you mean port forwarding isn't supported? ISP supplied router?
@soft violet yes isp supplied router, isp setup everythign then i use wifi
soft violet
@low shadow So no uPnP tool available to open a port?
low shadow
@low shadow serious. first: easy, then hard.
@rough sapphire if i know easy then whynt hard
@low shadow So no uPnP tool available to open a port?
@soft violet whats uPnP neever heard it
gentle moss
because you don't know the easy.
gentle moss
that's why not the hard
soft violet
@low shadow Some routers use the uPnP protocol to allow programs to open and close ports and configure forwarding and stuff.
low shadow
sand goblet
I'm hardly going to click a random link on discord
low shadow
@low shadow Some routers use the uPnP protocol to allow prigrams tobopen and close ports and configure forwarding and stuff.
@soft violet ok i will learn that
see bisk i know the easy way
gentle moss
it's kali
low shadow
yes , that is very fucked up thing to do
gentle moss
old kali, i think
gentle moss
yes i'm aware. this isn't my first goat fuck.
rough sapphire
lal
rough sapphire
baaaaaaaaaa
low shadow
how many times?
yes i'm aware. this isn't my first goat fuck.
@gentle moss
soft violet
bisk, you card.
gentle moss
¬_¬
sand goblet
that's what running everything under root is like
low shadow
like?
rough sapphire
"... you fuck one goat and they call you a goatfucker"
gentle moss
:D
quaint rivet
weird time to look at chat
sand goblet
no.
quaint rivet
hello prototype 2
low shadow
hello
gentle moss
fyi machine, a "goat fuck" is basically an incredibly shitty situation you'd rather not be in, but find yourself in anyway.
low shadow
call me james heller, hhdude
fyi machine, a "goat fuck" is basically an incredibly shitty situation you'd rather not be in, but find yourself in anyway.
@gentle moss now i got it
thanks for the info
gentle moss
i think it's more British than other English usage, yeah
quaint rivet
i generally read your name as machine-y dave so ill just call you that
soft violet
As an Australian, we might say "Up shit creek without a paddle"
soft violet
Mm.
rough sapphire
SNAFU
quaint rivet
a shitstorm
soft violet
FUBAR
low shadow
FOO BAR
not FUBAR
quaint rivet
its fubar
gentle moss
it's fubar
low shadow
what a interactive chat today
rough sapphire
or Repair
gentle moss
foobar is a media player.
low shadow
foo bar i seen many times, its for random replacing text just like lorem ipsum ...
soft violet
Repair
soft violet
@low shadow That's a seperate thing. You're right that foo and bar are written that way for that, but fubar is still fubar.
rough sapphire
low shadow
ok FUBAR
rough sapphire
In German they say something like "Wenn die Kacke am Dampfen ist" which means when the shit is steaming, and I told them about shit hitting the fan, with a visual explanation, that was fun
gentle moss
:D
low shadow
today the day was awesome
but still i didnt got answer , need to ask to another server for answers
undone berry
Have you tried asking Google?
soft violet
A day's awesomeness is subjective.
gentle moss
that absolute king cnut next door is still grinding up his patio
so my day is very much not awesome
rough sapphire
go stand in the fumes
soft violet
Because we all need timber lung.
soft violet
Fine
rough sapphire
If he coughs maybe he'll stop
soft violet
Noisy neighbor.
low shadow
let the neighbor be noisy. use headphones and headsets
gentle moss
i'm at work and have to answer / make phone calls
rough sapphire
hmm what's the best noise-canceling set of headphones
gentle moss
plus it's too hot to close the window
soft violet
@rough sapphire Screwdriver brand.
gentle moss
and i doubt noise cancelling headphones would do great against an angle grinder
gentle moss
well i'm thinking more in technical terms
because the waveform is constantly shifting as you cut
i'm not sure it'd punch it out as well
rough sapphire
but does that matter
low shadow
and i doubt noise cancelling headphones would do great against an angle grinder
@gentle moss i cant understand the english u speak
gentle moss
yeah, since noise cancelling is entirely based around sampling the waveforms outside the ear and creating a mirror signal 180 degrees out of phase
soft violet
Antinoise is fun. Especially when you've got external speakers you can put next to each other and invert the phase of left against right.
gentle moss
so if the sound changes too much / too often, they're of little effect
i haven't tried noise cancellers in a few years though
low shadow
i love ganzfeld effect
gentle moss
maybe they're better now.
rough sapphire
I'm ready to throw out 350€ for a pair of good headphones
gentle moss
i spend like £200 on mine usually
but i'll do it in an airport so there's no tax
:dank_finger_guns:
boo
rough sapphire
i've never had proper headphones
soft violet
I've managed to destroy all the earbuds I've ever used, except the only ones that have ever stood up to punishment, a set by HTC that came with a phone.
rough sapphire
the last 5 headphones i've just bought the koss porta pros because they're like 30 euros a pair
sand goblet
I think the most I've spent is €80 on a pair of true wireless earbuds
rough sapphire
these are recommended apparently https://www.amazon.de/Sony-WH-1000XM3-Cancelling-Headphones-Schnellladefunktion-Schwarz/dp/B07GDR2LYK/
sand goblet
I think I have similar Sony headphones on my wishlist
I'm never gonna be able to afford them, but
rough sapphire
those go on my wishlist too. need to be able to eat first.
given that there is still no employment in sight...
but the good news is that there have been some technical interviews which I'm waiting feedback from
low shadow
finally the easy way
quaint rivet
are you using kali as a daily os again?
low shadow
of course. I have windows 10 too
as dual boot
are you using kali as a daily os again?
@quaint rivet i always use kali as daily os
quaint rivet
nods
sand goblet
one of these days, you'll be the guy in bed in this video https://www.reddit.com/r/maybemaybemaybe/comments/g21fbb/maybe_maybe_maybe/
and it'll be kali that takes you by surprise
low shadow
hmm,Maybe Maybenot
github is secure,there is no blind xss
i did my job,finally,YEAH
undone berry
Is someone paying you to do it?
gentle moss
he's trying to become a bug bounty type dude
gentle moss
update on ticket system: changing the email account password seems to have resolved the ticket ID repeating issue.
this now raises another question....
where the ever loving fuck is that old 2nd instance that somehow got launched o_O
plucky ridge
You'll never know
gentle moss
ahhhhhh clients
"we ordered a label printer but it's not working. it's not on the network and we don't have any labels."
🙄
rough sapphire
stretching "not working" there a bit
low shadow
anybody can refer me some assembly language books or sites
i read 1 chapter and just went mad
gentle moss
i think i've got a book by Yeung B.C. somewhere
supposed to be the 8086 bible or something
low shadow
what is 8086 8088
low shadow
i m extremely new to processor and x86 and registers
soft violet
@low shadow No Sale.
gentle moss
ASM is not an easy thing to learn and if reading 1 chapter sent you mad it's probably best to attack the knowledge from a different angle
perhaps
low shadow
hmm
i read then another book
it talks different
probably other one talks about HLA
while the first one talks about rax, rbx ,rcx
while second one about eax,ebx , ecx
gentle moss
that's 64bit vs 32bit
low shadow
hmm
low shadow
Can anyone explain how bitwise operator works
gentle moss
so is google.
ticket system update: i changed the email account password and it's working normally now. this means that i have actually lost a server
it's online and running... but idk where the fuck it is
plucky ridge
Please don't tell people to effectively "just google/youtube it"
plucky ridge
Then just don't respond? I'd take a non-response over the dismissive one
rough sapphire
I'm serious. I love youtube.
gentle moss
i kind of want the guy to improve but the biggest problem he seems to have is listening to a) anyone who knows what they're talking to or b) actually looking stuff up and reading it.
rough sapphire
people dismiss youtube as a teacher. at least in my experience.
plucky ridge
@rough sapphire Do you have a good link that would help them with this?
I'm not saying YouTube isn't great, but just saying "go to youtube" typically isn't the way to go
rough sapphire
okay maybe it isn't.
plucky ridge
@gentle moss No I know
Ideally we should be teaching people how to research this kind of stuff, but there's a way to do it that isn't just "google it"
Suggesting search terms, giving a link and saying what search terms you used, etc.
Sorry, the teacher in me just doesn't turn off
gentle moss
yeah yeah, mine dies very quickly when "students" refuse to listen
rough sapphire
I always felt youtube learning is such a nice way of learning that it's basically telling somebody to go play videogames or something
edutainment
gentle moss
dude's a prickly one.
plucky ridge
"Edutainment"
I know it
I'm not trying to be a dick, but I also can't let it slide when I see it
gentle moss
sure.
plucky ridge
I swear I'm a damn paladin...
gentle moss
paladork
plucky ridge
I'm strangely okay with that
low shadow
Does 2 eax make a rax @gentle moss
gentle moss
i don't know. i'm not the one learning asm
eax is a 32bit int and rax is a 64bit long
idk why you're be operating across both landscapes at the same time?
rough sapphire
eax is half of the least significant bits of rax
low shadow
Here pic shows eax is part of rax
rough sapphire
low shadow
So 2 eax = rax
gentle moss
that's...
low shadow
Right?
rough sapphire
no
gentle moss
that's not how asm works
rough sapphire
that's not how binary numbers work
gentle moss
that's not how bit spaces work
gentle moss
not in this context, no. that's not how this works.
i am not nearly qualified or experienced enough in ASM to help you here buddy.
low shadow
Ok
gentle moss
i know roughly some stuff, but you're going to have to knuckle down and actually read some shit
because it's a heavy topic
low shadow
I thought eax was part of rax
gentle moss
and people that know it pretty well probably aren't going to want to deal with some of these questions
eax and rax are the same
one's 32bit and one's 64.
rough sapphire
if you're running 32 bit programs on a 64 bit processor, the least significant bits of rax are used as eax
rough sapphire
i don't know what it means
low shadow
Can anyone explain if correct
pine vector
there is no context to what it is. unless you're asking from a pure syntax perspective.
gentle moss
the fact it's written in a book
or some such
would probably suggest that who ever wrote the book
may know something about C/C++ and ASM
they're probably correct.
low shadow
So even geniuses can't tell I will skip that part
gentle moss
what
pine vector
to add to that, understand the operation's result. not just the syntax...
low shadow
Arent u a genius
gentle moss
i don't know C/C++ and am not trying to learn it.
rough sapphire
"skipping parts of the book" good learning strategy 💯
gentle moss
what you can't do is just come into the discord and go "is this book right?" over and over
wheat lynx
Just assume it's true, or you'll never get through the book
gentle moss
we're not a temperature gauge for you to judge stuff
low shadow
No I m not telling that
I m just telling that people like Bisk knows much. So if he can't tell why should I study it
It must be useless
gentle moss
because it seems like fundamental c/c++/asm
low shadow
Let's skip
gentle moss
and i am not a c++/c/asm programmer
low shadow
Ok
pine vector
also, those analogous examples are likely to help C/C++ programmers understand ASM. if you don't know either, they likely won't help.
gentle moss
however i know enough to tell you to read the damn book
low shadow
Ok
gentle moss
see @plucky ridge . this. it's this.
rough sapphire
bad idea probably
gentle moss
really bad idea
rough sapphire
what exactly is your question?
i don't understand?
Your question will be downvoted
If i know stackoverflow well
low shadow
Is this correct C++ statement if rax and rdx are variables
@low shadow
pine vector
@rough sapphire is the book correct. that's the question.
low shadow
rdx:rax = rax * rbx
@low shadow
wheat lynx
@low shadow Yes
low shadow
Can anyone explain
gentle moss
the statement is what the ASM looks like in C
low shadow
How it works
gentle moss
that's what that whole table is
examples of what C/C++ code looks like in ASM
idk what you want explaining?
low shadow
Yes
rough sapphire
from the book: https://arse.ee/wERdDlTW.png
rough sapphire
correct me if i'm wrong, but i feel like you do not fit into the target audience for this book
especially the "software developer" part
rough sapphire
the book implies and expects a preceding base knowledge of programming and probably some sort of degree in computing
i think you should start with things which are easier to manage for your skill level
low shadow
Like
gentle moss
i linked some 8086 books earlier that start from the fundamentals
that may be a better place to start
low shadow
Hmm
gentle moss
or something like this: https://www.tutorialspoint.com/assembly_programming/index.htm
quaint rivet
lol jesus christ..
gentle moss
so you're going to go through a book designed for experienced C/C++ developers learning ASM
before
doing the basic tutorial on the internet
low shadow
Yes > so you're going to go through a book designed for experienced C/C++ developers learning ASM
@gentle moss
rough sapphire
@low shadow less is more.
gentle moss
you can see now, yeah?
low shadow
I will skip difficult part
wheat lynx
You've got to run before you can walk, oh, wait.
low shadow
Then ok
gentle moss
THE WHOLE BOOK WILL BE DIFFICULT
you'll be in here for every other page asking questions about stuff you don't understand
because you didn't do level 1 -> 20
low shadow
Let me see if whole book is difficult or not
gentle moss
and jumped straight to level 21
considering you had trouble with a table of examples at the start
rough sapphire
@low shadow you're nowhere near the "difficult" part of the book yet
gentle moss
yeah, you're gonna have trouble
quaint rivet
@low shadow take a break man, go stretch your legs, get away from a monitor for a bit
gentle moss
dude, look, people here are willing to help
quaint rivet
well i tried
low shadow
Ok
gentle moss
but if you're not going to listen you make us feel like we're wasting our time
low shadow
Sorry
rough sapphire
@low shadow there are ways to learn things, and this is not it. the proper way is to start from the dumbest possible examples.
even the best possible professionals start from literally the simplest possible examples.
when they're going into completely new things.
they literally do the hello world things for as long as it takes until they feel comfortable with them.
solid pollen
That's the same thing as school, you don't skip up directly to the degree level
gentle moss
the entry level for "fundamentals" of ASM isn't small, you've got to be willing to put some effort in
rough sapphire
i tried writing a hello world with ASM and I didn't get it working
gentle moss
i do not have the energy for that, which is why i stopped reading my ASM book after like 50 pages
very much not my cup of tea
rough sapphire
I think the problem was that the system call for the print was making some non-documented register call
solid pollen
(I am actually curious about this book, which one are you talking about?)
rough sapphire
or maybe i got the hello world but not some loop or something
low shadow
I can't find pirated version of this book
solid pollen
It doesn't have a smooth lea- man
low shadow
8086
solid pollen
Seriously
low shadow
Yes serious ly
rough sapphire
🤦♂️
gentle moss
well good. stop pirating things.
low shadow
Why
solid pollen
Because someone invested time and effort into making it
low shadow
I never bought a single book coz I don't have money
gentle moss
:D
what do you mean?! it wouldn't be another...
checks watch
~20 years before AMD64 came out
low shadow
Do I need strong ASM for reversing
rough sapphire
it is evolving tho, we get certain extensions every now and then. No core changes, of course, but why fix something that works
solid pollen
The question is do you need reversing?
gentle moss
yes. knowing ASM is incredibly useful to reverse engineering
rough sapphire
How do i know when i should study some topic? By try?
plucky ridge
Or hate it but are for some reason compelled to still learn it
solid pollen
Hello work
plucky ridge
Yes right
Distractions
I don't know if that's what you intended, Ak, but it did remind me to focus
solid pollen
Haha, my point was about learning things you don't like because of work, but yeah
gentle moss
a modern day warrio, mean mean stride
deep drum
Given this scenario: How do you complete feature Y on branch A when feature X is required, but it's still being developed on branch B (or isn't even being developed yet)?
What's one supposed to do in Git?
plucky ridge
Cry mostly
plucky ridge
I'd say you'd need the rebase sooner than later if it relies on Y
rough sapphire
you make a pull request for branch A and have it block until branch B is merged
deep drum
block?
rough sapphire
can a named pipe work across a network?
Is it possible to create a named pipe in my computer and then get the output of it in another computer?
celest tide
some pirating is fine - sometimes the author gets nothing and it's pretty much extortion
(i was scrolled up)
rough sapphire
@celest tide I can't genuinely think of an instant where that would be acceptable
compact star
@rough sapphire Adobe Acrobat costs 15 $ / month to be able to modify PDFs. The format which Adobe forced down the throat of everyone. Thanks to PDF being proprietary, Adobe made sure no competitor could make a clean alternative... I would totally endorse pirating that software. MS Windows used his monopoly to unfairly hinder his competitors, I'd almost say that paying for it is a crime...
autumn herald
ahah new process at work
receive a file in .xls
copy paste a macro that copy paste 1 line in csv format
save execute save
send in another system where it will crash because different format
There is some beauty of copy pasting a macro that copy paste the first line but badly
i'm amazed
low shadow
abc: dw 'Hello World', 0xa works same as abc dw 'Hello World', 0xa , is abc a function or label or variable
compact star
@autumn herald What about automating this stuff ? Cut the macro down and do your own stuff.
People regularly give me data in xls, csv, xml, etc. format and I never ever exploit them by hand, I always automate the task, even if I only have to do it once. And usually, it's not only once.
compact star
Ah
autumn herald
i'm not authorised to automate stuff ahah
compact star
Where do you work ?
compact star
I'd send the manager to fuck off where I work
compact star
That'd make me mad
autumn herald
leaving in a week :p
compact star
Good for you
Whenever I hear about people working in Health, Insurance or Bank, it's always that kind of stories.
celest tide
@rough sapphire scientific publications are one obvious example
re pirating that is
blindly obeying and parroting the law isn't a great position to take in general, imo
solid pollen
So it happens that if you untick the auto reboot box in Odin and flash something, you device is basically stuck
sand goblet
You should be able to make your odin tool do the reboot
sand goblet
lol, I just realised that anointed enemies all dab when they turn into statues in borderlands 3
solid pollen
Hey @sand goblet, when you install lineage on an android device, how do you usually install Google apps? Using Open GApps?
rough sapphire
what's the shortest period of time you can learn angular in
sand goblet
You and I both know why that's a bad question
rough sapphire
XD
sand goblet
your google won't open?
ocean cipher
nope
I've tried all of these:
- Uninstalling and reinstalling
- Downloading 32-bit version
- Using the flags: --incognito, --safe-plugins, --disable-extensions, --bwsi, and --no-sandbox
- Changing the Default folder to Backup default
- Force quitting it in task manager
sand goblet
oh, you're talking about Chrome
ocean cipher
yeah
sand goblet
I only installed mine today but it's working fine
bronze root
Oi, which program would you recommend to sync files between a local folder and another on on a ssh server ?
gentle moss
rsync
bronze root
rsync it is
rough sapphire
@ocean cipher won't open at all?
no activity whatsoever, no error message, nothing in task manager, anything?
have you tried turning your computer off and on again
Where were u when Kirderanniku dialects were die
i was at house eating kartul when phone ring
"Kirderanniku dialects are kil"
"ei"
been replaced by russian 🙃
ei
rough sapphire
windows, right?
ocean cipher
yes
rough sapphire
might be around the time of it requiring a reinstall ☺️
ocean cipher
i tried 4 times :(
rough sapphire
you've reinstalled windows 4 times and it still doesn't work?
or are you talking about chrome?
low shadow
Run chrome under this , https://www.sandboxie.com/
Maybe it will help
@ocean cipher
rough sapphire
@solid pollen I don't install Google apps, no.
@celest tide I don't know the situation with scientific publications enough to comment on that specifically. But I stand by my point that pirating isn't something to condone here.
celest tide
@rough sapphire it's a point without nuance because you're not informed then?
again, not something I personally condone in general either
rough sapphire
@celest tide I'm not sure what you're trying to say here
wheat lynx
Don't copy that floppy
low shadow
Does darkweb exist https://imgur.com/gallery/b52CnHS
Amazing debate by me and my friend. What do u think
rough sapphire
@low shadow How do you define darkweb?
Also, I can't follow that video because it's all over the place
low shadow
Wait
gentle moss
dark web is just stuff that hasn't been indexed
at least i think that's the correct term
rough sapphire
bisk is right
gentle moss
totally not watching it.
a) darkweb exists
b) it's not as weird and crazy as the news makes out
c) a large portion of the internet is "dark"
undone berry
At this point more drugs, guns, and other dodgy shit gets sold through Telegram than through the dark web
gentle moss
yes, that's 3 min of my life i wont get back.
low shadow
Oh no
gentle moss
charlie's not far from the truth either
rough sapphire
can we not?
low shadow
Ok
rough sapphire
has literally nobody heard of google
rough sapphire
also why is your avatar literally a green nutsack
what is that thing
kinda looks like a chestnut
cosmic lotus
anyone here plays this hot new exciting game called Spelunky?
rough sapphire
oh you mean the terraria clone?
gentle moss
oh you mean call of duty for toddlers?
cosmic lotus
but isnt call of duty for toddlers?
gentle moss
oh noooo noo no no
not anymore
we're seen a slip in educational standards
CoD is the new bachelor's degree
celest tide
@rough sapphire you said you couldn't think of an example, i gave you one, that's it
im also saying from a personal point of view - blindly parroting and obeying laws isn't a great characteristic
rough sapphire
rough sapphire
If you're referencing the current channel name ( strange-women-in-ponds-distributing-swords ), in Monty Python
thorn snow
My name is Dennis
I didn't know that
well you didn't bother to find out, did ya?
That scene is still my 2nd favorite
gentle moss
i think my favourite is the french castle.
thorn snow
I meant of all Monty Python
gentle moss
ooooh
thorn snow
good ol slapstick
gentle moss
when i was a weeeeee child i used to take drama classes
monty python was one of the reasons
and rowan atkinson
thorn snow
Monty Python's Flying Circus was hard to come by in Germany in the 80/90's
I watched it secretly in the toilet when I was a kid on a portable tv
gentle moss
:D
thorn snow
because it was on so late
I wasn't allowed to watch
But it was in English with subtitles
gentle moss
ahhh, my mum encouraged it
thorn snow
I attribute most of my English language knowledge to that fact
solid pollen
Hey @rough sapphire ,what do you use to download apps then if you don't have the play store?
rough sapphire
F-droid
I'm fairly particular about the things I install 😄
@solid pollen Did you have any other questions about it? I was about to head to sleep
solid pollen
I think that's all, thanks you very much
rough sapphire
No problem. There's a decent amount of good applications on F-droid. If you have any questions or can't find something to do what you want, @ me
should I switch to arch instead of Fedora?
rough sapphire
arch is about as bleeding edge as you get
lime gazelle
with all its pros and cons I'd assume
low shadow
:GWgoaThinken: should I switch to arch instead of Fedora?
@lime gazelle I don't like phedora
gentle moss
any particular reason?
thorn snow
Well, not with that attitude
low shadow
And I don't like name of package manager yum
thorn snow
It does not really matter what you use though, in most work environments I've had the choice to download whatever Linux I wanted
For example, at my current work, I am the only one using Debian
low shadow
I like Debian and arch logo
First impression is last impression
If logo impresses me the. Oh yes
thorn snow
I've never chosen a Linux based on the Logo though
gentle moss
tbh the only restriction on what OS you can use at my place of work is:
- you must be able to use the RMM tools
- that's it.
since the RMM tools are Windows based, eh
you could just VM Windows for those tools though so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
thorn snow
He is trolling
low shadow
Sure about what?
thorn snow
That you are a troll
low shadow
Oh
wheat lynx
Take it as a compliment
thorn snow
Nobody who knows about Linux for 5 cents uses Kali in a productive environment
low shadow
Ok taken
gentle moss
scorch
low shadow
Nobody who knows about Linux for 5 cents uses Kali in a productive environment
@thorn snow I don't recommend in production
gentle moss
he thought he was quicker than rm -rf /
and could ctrl + c before it did damage
:P
thorn snow
I am a Network Admin, haven't used Kali even once 😄
rough sapphire
yes, it was ofc your timing
gentle moss
i've used kali in a VM before
rough sapphire
i bet you if you try again, you can beat it this time
low shadow
I know
gentle moss
mostly to see what the fuss was about
gentle moss
the fuss was dumb
low shadow
I will backup data then try again or if I have enough ram then vm
thorn snow
Tools I use on a daily basis are probably mtr, dig, host, nmap
gentle moss
iirc rm -rf on a directory acts "sorted"
low shadow
And is gdb used only for assembly debugging or what other Languages it supports
low shadow
Ok
thorn snow
rm /boot/vmlinuz
gentle moss
ha
thorn snow
I don't even know if the kernel is still named that way
gentle moss
hrmph.... power blips
this is not good.
need to get a UPS for my home PC
well, new battery.
thorn snow
Reminds me the other day when I was showing Trainees how a UPS works
I say like "And now I pull the plug of the server and it stays on"
dude says: "But its off now"
gentle moss
haha
thorn snow
I pulled the server plug from the UPS
gentle moss
smart smart :D
thorn snow
yeah, was funny though
gentle moss
clients and UPS's are a fucking nightmare
we've got a financial company as a customer and after one bad power blip ordered ~100 desk UPS's for all users
but since they've done that, they've not been refreshing the batteries
"hey, those batteries are old now. you should replace them or they might not work."
"how much?"
"here's a quote."
"too much. we'll wait and see."
power blip knocks half the company offline
"we need new UPS batteries."
thorn snow
Which is why I have so far avoided becoming the one in charge in IT
I don't want to be the one sitting with the CEO for 3 hours explaining him why he cannot be in the server room
Last job my colleague had to do that
dude just didn't get it
gentle moss
oof
thorn snow
A bit less pay, lot less headache
gentle moss
we're in the same building as said financial company
and none of them have access to the server room
specifically because they're a fucking danger to themselves
especially their IT team
their internal IT is for their custom software etc, we manage the broader infrastructure
gentle moss
less users \o/
thorn snow
Actually a lot more 😄
gentle moss
oh, direct support?
thorn snow
Well, as a Network Admin in a Datacenter, you handle abuse cases
So I have to deal with users
but its straight forward
thorn snow
reply within 4 hours or I tell BGP to not route your IP anymore
Then you gotta do what I ask before you are routed again
thorn snow
Mostly it is network scans of misconfigured software and malware
and compliance with law enforcment
gentle moss
company i'm with has set up a number of networks for shared office spaces etc
and we manage that network infra
pretty boring stuff tbh
thorn snow
We have everything from Cloud, Managed Root, Root, Webhosting up to Colo
gentle moss
fancy
thorn snow
racks, cages, you name it
gentle moss
we're very much still in the user space for the majority of support
so glad i'm not front line support now though
thorn snow
The thing is, many people get an abuse mail about their server looking for port 22 on all private IP
gentle moss
it was getting to the point where every single printer based ticket was sent to me, so it couldn't have come too soon
thorn snow
and the answer is: That is private IP why do you know about it?
Well because your server sent those IP into our network you dumbfuck
gentle moss
:D
thorn snow
Which isn't allowed, because that's the internet
gentle moss
ahhh bogons
thorn snow
Have you read about that weird optics problem I've been having @gentle moss ?
thorn snow
Had an interesting problem yesterday. So one Edge Router and one L3 Switch. Port from Edge to Switch, with a 40G QSFP Bidi optics. Link wouldn't come up between the two, but comes up if you put both optics into the same device with the same cable. The optics work, but the link refuses to come up if on different devices. Isn't a firmware issue. Curious if we have an answer on Monday from the supplier of the optics, because that's some weird shit to debug.
I don't expect an answer, I just found that weird and funny
thorn snow
yeah
gentle moss
maybe there's an auto-negotiation problem or something
thorn snow
I think it is communication with the QSFP
Those bidi aren't recognized as such, they identify as QSFP LR or something, forgot
gentle moss
i had something similar on a pair of off-brand switches and a 1GB link. for no apparently reason they wouldn't auto-negotiate
hmm
yeah that's weird
also way above my pay grade
:D
shit, i'm trying to convince a client to upgrade their core switches to support 10G
40G is like decades away :'(
thorn snow
Well, remember, data center
gentle moss
true
thorn snow
40G is pretty small
gentle moss
you say that but one of the business parks we manage has like idk
~200 companies on site
and all the interconnects are 1G
thorn snow
We have about 4T traffic a day
low shadow
Does 5G kill birds
low shadow
I heard that
sand goblet
There are a lot of stupid conspiracy theories around it, yeah
low shadow
Maybe it's true. Who knows until research been done
gentle moss
i will happily live a year with a 5G antennae shoved up my arse
just to prove it doesn't give you colon cancer
or w/e
sand goblet
Research has been done.
gentle moss
lots of research has been done
low shadow
If u can provide link to me so that I can provide other people
low shadow
A entire movie has been made that 5g kills birds
sand goblet
People say this shit every single time a new mobile spectrum shows up
gentle moss
an entire movie has been made about how the world is flat
doesn't mean it's right
christ.
sand goblet
They said it with 3G and with 3.5 and 3.9G, and 4G
gentle moss
they said it with WiFi too
low shadow
The movie had million views
gentle moss
so? millions of people are thick as shit mate.
millions of people saw the Garfield movie ffs
sand goblet
Hahaha
low shadow
Never saw garfield
gentle moss
don't, it's shit.
sand goblet
Millions of people saw the emoji movie too
sand goblet
Anyway yeah, it's not true, and if it was, we wouldn't be seeing wide scale deployment
Don't, it's shit.
gentle moss
:D
thorn snow
That's my WiFi. Having fun with my tinfoil hat neighbour
gentle moss
hahaha
sand goblet
Hah
low shadow
That's not 5g . That's 5GHz
gentle moss
it's a joke machin
sand goblet
As if they'll know that
thorn snow
But 5G operates on a very broad frequency range
depending on the use, the frequency is chosen
gentle moss
the 5G conspiracies are getting kinda dangerous now tbh
it's gone from crack pots on the internet to actually being on the main stream media coverage of stuff
thorn snow
Also, 802.11ac != LTE 5G
sand goblet
They are getting dangerous, especially with fucking celebrities and news outlets parroting some of it
gentle moss
“I totally agree with everything you are saying but what I don’t accept is mainstream media immediately slapping that down as not true when they don’t know it’s not true. No one should attack or damage or do anything like that, but it’s very easy to say it is not true because it suits the state narrative. That’s all I would say, as someone with an inquiring mind.”
said a guy on morning TV
watched by tens of millions
sand goblet
Anyone with half an ounce of sense knows it's not true
gentle moss
Eamonn Holmes is a fucking idiot though
sand goblet
Like how fucked in the head do you have to be to think 5G has anything to do with any virus
gentle moss
:D
sand goblet
I can't even
gentle moss
it's weird when you try to trace the 5G conspiracy shit back
it's the classic radio wave paranoia shit
thorn snow
@sand goblet The people spreading this aren't stupid, they are greedy
gentle moss
but there's also this weird aspect to it
thorn snow
people pay to hear them speak
sand goblet
Oh, sure, but those people are stupid
gentle moss
i mean that's part of it, but also the stupid thing.
people are making bank off the paranoia
be it like little wallets for your phone to stop it irradiating your balls
or giving conspiracy lectures
sand goblet
What like, IRL?
gentle moss
yeah
low shadow
though it may not kill bird but it may have negative effect on health
sand goblet
It doesn't.
gentle moss
i've literally spent my entire life being swamped by EM radiation of all kinds
and my balls still work.
gentle moss
dude
sand goblet
Yes if you sit in a fucking microwave
gentle moss
specific frequencies are dangerous
sand goblet
Or in front of a dish while it's on