And it is used in the real world
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
sand goblet
It's worth noting btw that while Kotlin is the most portable language I know, it doesn't have the library backing of stuff like python
As much as I want to use Kotlin everywhere, Python is still much more viable for many things
And sure, Kotlin Native can use native libs, Kotlin for JS can use node libs
But none of them are adapted for Kotlin paradigms
glacial owl
Well, Python had A LOT of time to mature 🙂
sand goblet
It definitely has, yeah
glacial owl
If Kotlin won't go away, it will get library collection that rivals Java
sand goblet
Well, that depends
Kotlin is three separate ecosystems at the moment
It's actually quite well supported when it comes to java already
Native and JS aren't prod ready yet though, in theory
It is also possible to write libs and code that targets all three ecosystems, but it's not easy
Anyway, it's 1am, so I'd better head off
Sorry for the zealotry haha
glacial owl
It was an interesting read! Good night!
rough sapphire
staff gradient?
the discord roles?
if that's the case the roles are missing green
vestal briar
Now i've got my 3d printer working again it's actually pretty useful to just have any object within an hour or two
Time to see how these guitar picks turn out
solid pollen
The roles are missing green you said? 
oak tangle
if that's the case the roles are missing green
@rough sapphire
It's just referring to the gradient of red to yellow we use for staff roles, not a full color spectrum.
!role Owners Admins Moderators Helpers
solid pollen
I feel like we get more and more of these lately haha https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2020/03/10/microsoft-windows-10-warning-crashes-boot-audio-slowdown-problems-upgrade-windows-10-free/
vestal briar
Shouldn't they have a beta group or something
solid pollen
They do
vestal briar
To stop this from happening every 6 months
solid pollen
From my experience the beta group is actually more stable than the release channel
sand goblet
was already disabled
solid pollen
Wrong channel?
solid pollen
Oops
rough sapphire
blarggg
vestal briar
Windows 10 is just a pain
gentle moss
nah, it's fine.
sand goblet
Yeah, it's perfectly fine
vestal briar
Cortana blasting in your ear and a ton of trickery needed for play store was my experiance
vestal briar
Hint: you need to unplug ethernet and don't connect to wifi to not use store
sand goblet
play store?
gentle moss
never touched the store in my entire time of using Win 10
so idk what you're talking about
hidden imp
You can get translucentTB on the store
rough sapphire
linux has to be installed from the store
hidden imp
Which is all I every got from there
vestal briar
All installs I have done have had me being annoyed at trying to get past the microsoft store stuff
sand goblet
the plex UWP app and anything from the xbox app comes from there
hidden imp
Oh yeah and wsl too
sand goblet
WSL is capable of handling a desktop now
rough sapphire
wsl is fast
sand goblet
no need for a VM
sand goblet
yup
rough sapphire
how do I get that
sand goblet
you still need to run an x-server though
rough sapphire
I mean I don't want to but I want to try it
hidden imp
I think I have uninstalled more things from the store than I have installed from there
vestal briar
I prefer vms, if anything goes wrong with wsl everything's still good
sand goblet
you have to have an X server to support any X clients, which includes running a desktop or desktop apps via WSL or using stuff like X forwarding via SSH
rough sapphire
a
gentle moss
booo
annnnd just realised i only have 6 SATA ports
out come two
adding 1.6tb of HDD and 256gb of SSD
Always hide yo crimes
i have lost track of which drive is which in the installer :|
anyone ever dual booted two win 10's?
i can't imagine the windows bootloader would conflict with itself.........
nvm i can imagine that
arrrrggghhhh, cortana.
rough sapphire
i've done two different editions of win 10
worked fine, the windows bootloader was able to list both
gentle moss
cool
rough sapphire
Did bisk changed his profile picture?
Diacord bug probably
Discord*
it's loading for me
gentle moss
huh? it should still be that golfball
plucky ridge
Yeah, eye still see his normal one
gentle moss
w10 hibernation / sleep is a piece of shit
solid pollen
I agree
gentle moss
no, it's my day off
plucky ridge
Your company doesn't compensate you for coming in on days off?
gentle moss
it's more that we're working from home now so i have to set up my PC for that
i shouldn't have gone to have lunch, it's wedged itself in a black screen behaviour
:|
hah. something happened during windows patching and now it doesn't handle my display port output on the gpu
rough sapphire
i LOOVE windows updates
gentle moss
this is a fresh install, so i guess installing the AMD drivers will solve it
but it's weird that straight 1809 worked fine, then a reboot fecks it
undone berry
I understand brand loyalty towards AMD - but loyalty to Intel just seems absurd to me
solid pollen
GPU? That's disgusting
gentle moss
this AMD FX-6300 was great when it first came out
plus overclocks like a champ and is cheap
this R9 380 was like £160 and still runs games at 60 - 100fps on high settings
so idk why you'd be so anti-AMD
solid pollen
I'm kind of okay with AMD cpus, but I love Nvidia products so much to just think about AMD GPUs
undone berry
Why do you love Nvidia?
gentle moss
and why would you stop looking at competing products?
AMD's GPU's are incredible bang for buck
undone berry
Nvidia seem pretty anti-consumer
gentle moss
a lot of their technology offerings are closed source
undone berry
Gsync is just shit compared to freesync
in terms of their approach to the technology
gentle moss
plus they've been artificially restricting what you can do with their GPU's
solid pollen
They're products works great, they're ahead on the ray tracing tech
undone berry
Ray tracing is one niche though
gentle moss
if you're using them to do things other than game graphics
undone berry
which is still pretty shit even at the high end
gentle moss
plus it'll never be as important as shader processing
solid pollen
I mean, I do 3d, raytracing is really important to me
Most of the software that I use are optimized for Nvidia cards too
undone berry
Sure for rendering. I meant for games where its still pretty irrelevant
solid pollen
Sure
gentle moss
yeah so is that nvidia's products being better
or nvidia courting software developers with free shit for market position?
solid pollen
I do think their products are better
solid pollen
Okay okay, I will take a look at some facts and see
undone berry
It seems weird to love Nvidia products - they might be the best option for your usecase, but I think Nvidia do a lot of shitty stuff
solid pollen
Their cards looks better than AMD card imo
undone berry
as in aesthetics ?
undone berry
Nvidia or AMD have relatively little impact on what their end cards look like yeah
solid pollen
Why on earth would you buy it?
gentle moss
because it's got enough grunt to do 1080p gaming at high quality and fps
and it's only £130
what nvidia card provides similar performance for near that price point?
solid pollen
Oh yeah I got confused
gentle moss
the RX 590 is only £160
undone berry
It clocks above a 1060 which is ~50 more expensive
pine vector
XFX 570 confirmed. Thanks old emails!
gentle moss
it's hard to hate on AMD when they fill out an entire section of the market nvidia doesn't cater to
and quite often punch above their weight with cheaper cards
tbh AMD is a turnaround success story
vestal briar
How much better is the 590 vs 480?
rough sapphire
my 5700xt has been pretty good
gentle moss
hmmm... how to hide my extra disk drives from work's spyware remote management agent
🤔
creepy piece of shit that it is. you're required to add your computer to the RMM to use parts of the RMM
plucky ridge
Eat them
rough sapphire
ok can we take a moment to talk about this
🧿
WTF is this
how this passed emoji examination
gentle moss
what is it?
rough sapphire
it says nazar_amulet
translation from hindi
it is used as a good sign
gentle moss
what's wrong with it?
rough sapphire
looks pretty accurate to me
for example
if i say you have a good baby
and then suddenly baby fells ill
to prevent that from happening
it is used
gentle moss
yeah, like a protection charm
rough sapphire
yes that thing
so what's wrong with the emoji
but how can this pass the emoji examination without anyone saying WTF is this and is that important ?
also it sorta looks creepy
gentle moss
💈
rough sapphire
also its unicode version don't work for many OS like arch for me
lost knoll
💸
rough sapphire
sometimes, when you tap right between the emoji button and the send button (on mobile), discord just fucking dies
i have this often
on different phones
cuz discord
🖲️ why is THIS an emoji
gentle moss
it means the mcdonald's sign is drunk
just heard off a co-worker that a civil contractor doing a fibre install outside one of our customer's offices drilled through a 50mm armoured mains cable
and blew out power for a whole city block
rough sapphire
OOF
atleast here electricity workers are good at there job
cuz if they don't do there job they will be so much spammed by people
gentle moss
it was a fibre contractor who drilled through the mains
rough sapphire
but electricity people to fix it
gentle moss
yeah
probably only take the sparkies a few hours to fix it tbh
people without power get pretty fucking mad
rough sapphire
especially when its 11 in night
gentle moss
tbh it's in a business area
so the fact it happened at 2pm was probably not pleasing
rough sapphire
an extra tea break it is
gentle moss
more like 3 hours of lost business :D
thin viper
I want to control my raspberry pi with the Google assistant app, basically I just want to say "lights on" and Google assistant needs to send a get-request to a specific URL in my local network (something like curl 192.168.0.205/on) and that's it. Does anyone know how to do this with Google assistant?
undone berry
That sounds like its in the domain of Home Assistant which @sand goblet is quite big on
sand goblet
Hmm
Well, home assistant certainly supports google assistant, although unless you want to set it up manually it isn't free to use it for that
if you want to make Google Assistant do things like that, I think you need to make an integration, or maybe IFTTT does it
yeah, internet says IFTTT is the way to go
hallow portal
primal spruce
Tell them to piss off
Pun intended
Holding stuff in is bad for your body's health in the long run. You need to go, you go.
rough sapphire
altered carbon is good
undone berry
I did 4eps of AC, and really wanted to like it but couldn't
rough sapphire
3 episodes in and in only just realised the fuckin little clip that plays at the end of each episode is something you see in the next one
sand goblet
that sounds like a bad TV show
gentle moss
that's a poor amount of information to judge something off
undone berry
basicly - the rootin tootin titties and violence part is fun. But the other 75% just makes no sense. Half the characters are just fucking annoying, and I feel like the world makes 0 sense
gentle moss
cryptic
gentle moss
and it's at the start of each episode, not at the end, isn't it?
rough sapphire
it's definitely at the end for me
gentle moss
ah k
rough sapphire
sand goblet
that just reminds me of that one Bad Lip Reading video
lines, lines, intersecting now with paint
gentle moss
i hate having to actively not skip credits
undone berry
Yeah, same
gentle moss
yet intro credits are opt out
sand goblet
my mom like
gets up and leaves the room and has a cigarette if there are credits
she hates them that much
undone berry
like 80% of the time I even want to skip credits - but the times when I don't it drives me insane to have to scramble to stop it skipping them
gentle moss
yeah
like sometimes they'll use thematic music in the credits
or / and you sorta want to decompress
maybe even see if it really was that dude from that one show you can't quite put your finger on back in the 90s
undone berry
I dunno - practically every single episode I watch of something I end up googling the cast
I most have forgotten Joel Kinnaman's name and regoogled it like 30 times
gentle moss
there was one woman in altered carbon S2 that i'm preeettty sure was in a Stargate at some point
pine vector
S2 is much much less nudity, btw. i feel like that was a Mackie effect. still good, but Joel Kinnaman pulled pulled off the sarcasm much better.
gentle moss
he did
undone berry
Joel Kinnaman was the best part of what I watched - I thought he was pretty good
pine vector
i just saw that the anime (prequel?) comes out on the 19th too. will at least give the first episode a roll...
gentle moss
interesting
undone berry
If you like the stack concept and reading - then I think Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom deals with very similar tech in a much more interesting way
pine vector
i really want to read the AC books. but that requires time. balance is short these days. 😄
undone berry
I think I'm gonna read the book to see if I prefer that. Based on the blurb, it seems I might (although I'm pretty certain its gonna ~200pg be longer than it should be)
sand goblet
gog galaxy 2 is quite interesting
rustic arrow
plain slate
Tom Hanks has COVID-19 as well.
glacial owl
Damn, gotta stock up on steaming hot pandemic memes
My freshest ones are still Ebola-Chan
golden walrus
nice to still see you around @glad bear
rough sapphire
https://i.imgur.com/FcsHbCJ.png a mysterious E:\ drive appeared in my quick access bar for some reason
thorn snow
The random access memory randomly accessed it
best ecxuse when gf finds your pron folder
gusty oar
plot twist ; your gf is also secret programmer
sinful copper
@rough sapphire what's in it?
rough sapphire
it doesn't actually open
sinful copper
hmm
rough sapphire
i also can't seem to remove it
rough sapphire
mountvol does not list E:\
sinful copper
bizarre
that blue question mark has to mean something
anything in disk management? though i assume you haven't installed any new hard drives recently
could it be a USB drive that got adde to your quickbar somehow?
it looks like ? means a shortcut that points to an invalid drive https://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/206876-blue-desktop-icon-backup-external-hard-drive.html
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire You've been hit by, you've been struck by, a random bug!
@sinful copper i'd assume i could remove shortcuts though
sinful copper
what does it do when you try to remove it?
rough sapphire
it says it's on my desktop, but actually navigating to my desktop folder - nothing there
there is literally no "remove" option
sinful copper
hmm maybe it'll work if you assign a drive to letter E? plug in a USB?
undone berry
In the background of BBC news there's just some family taking photos in front of no.10 which for some reason I find hilarious
undone berry
it doesn't seem that way at all and thats just a dumb thing to say
gusty oar
why
gentle moss
that's a young adviser
gentle moss
hah
undone berry
which I found hilarious - some guy going on about the danger of the coronavirus whilst a couple of kids take smiling photos in the background
wheat lynx
Does Downing Street have free access? I assume there must be some bars on whether you are allowed access or not.
undone berry
I don't actually know, but given that some kid in a school uniform was taking photos there, I'd assume there's relatively free access
gentle moss
Public access was curtailed by relying on common law powers to prevent breach of the peace[18][19][20] (although its legality has been questioned by a correspondent for New Statesman magazine).[21] In 2005, Westminster City Council used anti-terrorism powers contained in the Civil Contingencies Act 2004 to formalise the restrictions by means of a traffic management order.[21] This by implication results in Downing Street being inaccessible to the general public as admittance is only granted by the Police to scheduled visitors, Parliamentary pass holders and members of the accredited press.
so no, but they're trying
vestal briar
What counts as accredited press
undone berry
Probably people OKd by civil servants in downing street
oak tangle
In part, it's because of the sheer number of cases
There was a video interview with a doctor working in the North of Italy who indicated that hospitals were overwhelmed and they had to apply war-like triage
They also have a relatively old population
This article tries to explain it as well: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-deaths-from-coronavirus-are-so-high-in-italy/
sand goblet
wonder how hard it'd be to turn this pyportal into a coronavirus overview
I realise that json probably isn't a great idea for it, but I'm more concerned about displaying things.. hmm..
oh god the usb cable ruined one of my ports
great
yep all ports on that hub are screwed
good thing I have so many spares
adafruit's site is crashing my browser too
this is just not meant to be, haha
dusky remnant
Boys and girls dont know if this is the right channel to ask this but... I am looking to buy a monitor 24/27' that goes easy on the eyes, mainly gonna be used for coding and a little gaming. Any suggestions?
plucky ridge
Perfect channel for that question, yeah
plucky ridge
(I don't have any suggestions though, just letting you know it's the right place to ask)
dusky remnant
haha 😄
undone berry
Whatever's cheapish. IPS panel if you can get it
If money isn't a constraint, I'd REALLY reccomend a ultrawide monitor
I much prefer one ultrawide to two 1080p
dusky remnant
I am looking for 1080p, bought one 27' acer nitro but my eyes get so tired after 3-4 hours
undone berry
really?
dusky remnant
i had much cheaper monitor before that and i didnt had any problems gaming for 20 hrs 😄
undone berry
That shouldn't happen
dusky remnant
yeah idk 😄
undone berry
Have you tried playing with brightness and other settings?
Possibly a blue light filter
dusky remnant
yup
undone berry
Thats pretty weird. In that case, I'd definitely be looking to see the monitor before buying it if I were you
its possible that you might prefer a VA panel or something
dusky remnant
oh so i picked the right time to look for monitor 😄
will get monitor + corona in the same time 😄
sand goblet
circuitpython vs code extension doesn't work on windows
noice
man these things are supposed to be for beginners
why are there so many barriers to entry
obtuse phoenix
Haven't tried circuit python yet but I want to
sand goblet
I'm having a hard time finding tooling
I eventually figured out the example was outdated and used CPy 4 indtead of CPy 5
And then I dug around and found this thing called circup which could update the libs for me
But I can't find anything that will give me autocomplete yet
Also I somehow wrecked 4 USB ports on one of my monitors with a micro USB cable
So that was fun
obtuse phoenix
Surprised VS code didn't work for you for autocomplete
What are you trying to do with micropython?
sand goblet
I was trying to make a little coronavirus dashboard on a pyportal
The Circuit python plugin for VS Code is developed and tested only on a mac and I just got errors on windows haha
obtuse phoenix
nice
sand goblet
I'm sure it'll be great once I get everything set up
Most people have only praise for it and I believe them
Feels like it could be easier though
obtuse phoenix
I am totally about to order some boards
sand goblet
I'm looking forward to getting this working, to be honest
obtuse phoenix
@sand goblet well... I started watching micropython videos... it looks like the rest of my afternoon is shot. Nothing else is getting done
sand goblet
Haha, well enjoy it
bronze root
Anyone knows how those "click to copy" things works ?
bronze root
o okay
Is there a way to make it without even opening the browser ?
eg : click on a link to copy a token
wirhin discord
rough sapphire
@bronze root What kind of token?
thorn snow
I don't think you can inject js into discord
undone berry
ctrl+shift+i and you get a console no?
thorn snow
@undone berry I mean with a bot
undone berry
oh yeah - no thats not at all possible
probably I should read context
before replying
bronze root
@rough sapphire random character strings, nothing too important nor private
rough sapphire
@bronze root What's the background of this? Just a random question or is there more to this?
bronze root
just random, thought that it'd be neat @rough sapphire
rough sapphire
Well, if you click a link, it'll open your browser 😄
bronze root
Guess it can't be helped then x3
vestal briar
SELF BOT ACTIVATED
vestal briar
Is £200 good for a switch and a case?
spiral cliff
who wants help i'm bored
thorn snow
o wait the console
@gentle moss The switch has ssh access?
solid pollen
If it is the legacy console fuck yeah
wheat lynx
How do you pronounce Dijkstra (as in Dijkstra's algorithm)
Nvm, I searched it up. It is pronounced "Dijkstra"
vestal briar
Someone offered me £200 for mine, feels lowball
gentle moss
i'll give you a layer 2 48 port PoE switch for it
solid pollen
Pretty low yeah
safe lagoon
hihi!
undone berry
Hola
solid pollen
... I guess so
sand goblet
That's verifiably not true
solid pollen
I mean, they can feel the void too
gentle moss
put them on a pole in the middle of the grand canyon and tell them not to move
i think they'll panic
solid pollen
But what if they don't know they're on the pole?
sand goblet
They'd know, it's pretty obvious you're high up
undone berry
I imagine there are some poles who I'd be perfectly comfortable with - they seem like nice people
sand goblet
Also not all blind people have no vision
gentle moss
hah
sand goblet
You can be classified blind but still have some portion of vision left
gentle moss
shoulder ride through the grand canyon
rough sapphire
ok i know when someone is staring me even he is not in my view
sorta 6th sense like you can feel the void ?
sand goblet
There's no evidence to suggest that's actually a thing
undone berry
no, you don't know that
sand goblet
Yeah
gentle moss
¬_¬
rough sapphire
you can actually feel someone is near you
sand goblet
No, you can't
solid pollen
I think you can still feel it yeah, but kit really a 6th sense
solid pollen
And the movement of the air around him
gentle moss
that's why i always do a fist windmill every 10 minutes
just in case someone snuck up on me
sand goblet
Haha
rough sapphire
people get shit scared when someone pass closely from there behind
HE IS GONNA STAB ME
gentle moss
that's just paranoia
rough sapphire
their*
or whatever
F grammar
sand goblet
Yeah, that's paranoia
gentle moss
people constantly assess risks and threats from all around them
sand goblet
AG, you are the personification of shower thoughts
"onion rings are just vegetable donuts"
gentle moss
if you're in a crowded city street you might think about threads differently than if you're sat at home on the sofa.
rough sapphire
I was thinking of posting that actually
sand goblet
"Why do we bake cookies but cook bacon?"
rough sapphire
not by a suprise
that i had
https://www.reddit.com/r/Showerthoughts/submit opened
gentle moss
how can our eyes be real if mirrors aren't real
undone berry
Jaden Smith truly is an enigma
gentle moss
work days seem to go a bit quicker working from home
i approve of this
perhaps it's the fact i rolled out of bet at 8:15, made a coffee and sat down to work at 8:30.
rather than having to get up at 7:30
undone berry
I think I'd hate working from home
gentle moss
it actually feels a bit more productive
normally when we're all in the office there's too much banter and fucking around
seems if you isolate people and connect them through slack they're more productive
🤔
there's also much more of a paper trail for actions etc
undone berry
I wonder if that will hold true in a week or twos time
gentle moss
rather than someone saying they're going to do the thing or whatever
perhaps it's the fact everyone's taking cheeky wank breaks
undone berry
I can only imagine the paper trail improves things
as long as stuff like cheeky wank breaks doesn't enter the paper trail
wooden silo
In my experience, there's pros and cons with wfh in terms of productivity. If I have clearly laid-out tasks that I can do mostly on my own, working from home is better, because people are less likely to bother me. But if I have a task that's not well-defined and requires a lot of back-and-forth with coworkers to work out, it can be worse, since it can be harder to get ahold of people.
And I'd say that both scenarios are fairly common.
gentle moss
yeah
most of my time at work is usually stuff i know wtf i'm doing
but being more technically experienced than the other support stuff i'm often offering help to them when i can hear them struggling
in the wfh scenario they kind of have to pipe up in chat
wooden silo
I usually get a stream of questions throughout the workday, but some people seem less inclined to do it over Slack, so there's just fewer when I'm not in the office
Or they forget I'm working, maybe
gentle moss
i get distracted regardless of location ¬_¬
i keep using "that would be great" in tickets and i always feel like uhh
sand goblet
F
rough sapphire
is that windows 98
rough sapphire
did win7's "classic" theme really have that gradient in the title bar?
i recall it not having it but maybe i'm misremembering
plucky ridge
I think it did, but it's been years...
opaque ruin
That is Windows XP with Classic Theme
gentle moss
it's not.
opaque ruin
Windows 7 didn't have that gradient.
opaque ruin
yeah
gentle moss
win 7 in classic did have the gradient btw
opaque ruin
oh
Maybe I had changed the settings before
It's been ages since I had last seen Windows 7
gentle moss
i only installed Win 10 this week ¬_¬
harassing customers to upgrade and my home PC was win 7
smh
rough sapphire
plucky ridge
Which has already been patched
solid pollen
Pff, microsoft
plucky ridge
Also if the argument is that only Microsoft screws up updates then that's just factually incorrect
It shouldn't matter what the rest of the people here use. Don't like it, don't use it. But don't try to ruin everyone else's time just because you personally don't like it
solid pollen
I have a way better experience on linux than on windows, and I can’t come back to win now, but I’d never advice my mom for instance to use linux
I don’t think she’ll be able to compile from source spotify just to listen ti music
rough sapphire
You shouldn't have to compile Spotify from source, though.
It's just a download, but it's also not in most package managers, which defeats the point of them.
sand goblet
spotify doesn't actually support linux
if you're using spotify on linux, you're using an ancient version that's had the stuff from newer versions backported to it by the community
in a more up to date electron-like container
it's functionally the same, but it's not official
rough sapphire
Are you sure? https://www.spotify.com/us/download/linux/
woeful monolith
rough sapphire
@sand goblet i'm not sure why you're implying that?
spotify keeps their snap app up to date with the current features
was last updated like last month i think
solid pollen
The snap broke after 2 days
solid pollen
_Why would you be damned for a mahjong emoji? _
rough sapphire
He wants to go to china lately
plucky ridge
It's just a turn of phrase
Kind of a saying of surprise
I've been learning how to play Japanese Mahjong lately (due to the Yakuza series of games)
solid pollen
(Nice to know)
solid pollen
I played mahjong when I was younger on the DS in a puzzle set game
solid pollen
The 8 years old me never understood how it worked haha
plucky ridge
I'm talking about the 4 people playing against each other
It's kind of like Rummy if you're familiar with that card game
plucky ridge
Yeah that's Mahjong Solitare
In simple terms, you've got 4 people taking and discarding tiles in order to make a winning hand
Depending on the type of hand, how you made it, whether you revealed any of your triples or melds, determine the number of points you get from winning that round
sand goblet
Well hey, if they added Linux support suddenly over the last year then I didn't hear about it
plucky ridge
It's really really interesting, and there's a lot of strategy that goes into it
solid pollen
Hmm it sounds interesting
plucky ridge
Well, okay, interesting to me at least
rough sapphire
they've been supporting linux since like forever i think?
snap support is pretty new
it used to be custom debian repos iirc
solid pollen
Their snap sucks, at least on manjaro
sand goblet
I mean, it might suck but it exists
rough sapphire
snap works fine for me
also snaps are supposed to be distro agnostic
that's the whole point of them
rough sapphire
well, yeah
snaps in general, yes, they suck
but the spotify snap in particular hasn't caused too many issues for me (out of the norm for snaps, anyways)
solid pollen
The app randomly broke after two days
sand goblet
I like how we have snaps, flatpak and appimage and none of them quite work right
solid pollen
Not being able to find a module
sand goblet
You'd think they'd work together to solve the common problem, but
solid pollen
It is the Linux main issue
rough sapphire
there are too many issues that come with what their common design is
sand goblet
I mean snaps are just "statically compile all the things" aren't they?
solid pollen
Too many ways to do things, too many distro, just too many
Snaps are just files to put in a specific location
solid pollen
Yeah
rough sapphire
basically, yes
there's more "gusto" to it, like sandboxing and stuff
but most of the sandoboxing i've seen has been pretty worthless and easy to bypass
sand goblet
Well, you're the expert on that here for sure
plucky ridge
Read that as "sanddoxing" for some reason
rough sapphire
i haven't properly tested it or anything, it has been relatively low effort to discover that the sandboxing that they (at least snap) utilise has been sort of in vain
i'm going to say that a large majority, maybe around 90%, of the "sandboxed" snap apps still allow rw access to the user's home directory
like i don't even have to start explaining why that's bad
sand goblet
Yup
rough sapphire
then you have "device" sandboxing, which is basically denying access to stuff in /dev that the snap doesn't need access to
except, oops, it works on a blacklist basis
using a driver which uses unconventional /dev paths? the snap app can probably access it
sand goblet
I don't see snap or similar tools as security mechanisms
solid pollen
A whitelist would make way more sense to me
sand goblet
That just doesn't make sense to me
rough sapphire
i think their reasoning was something like "if we don't know what this device is, we can't implement reasonable access to it within a permission"
sand goblet
Either way you're introducing something to your machine and network which originates from outside of it
You should take the same precautions you do with everything else
rough sapphire
pretty much this, yeah.
solid pollen
Haha
amber jungle
more than anti virus xD
sinful copper
for stuff i really want sandboxed i run it as a different user
vestal briar
Lol
rough sapphire
That's peak security
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire and just like that, i determine you're english.
gentle moss
safe
gentle moss
i think he means your use of peak
plucky ridge
No I think it was a joke about UK security protocols
rough sapphire
Imagine roasting a 16 year old
rough sapphire
yeah, no, i've never heard anyone use "peak" as an adjective before
before I came to england
plucky ridge
It's common enough
gentle moss
it's common in the UK at least
rough sapphire
plucky ridge
Certainly more of a Brit thing though, yeah
plucky ridge
Is that part of the pantomimes?
rough sapphire
yep
gentle moss
you "standard" them
gentle moss
safe mate
rough sapphire
also how did nobody explain this to me in the three years i was there
also i fucking "safe"-d loads and nobody ever standard'd me back
not that i can recall anyways
gentle moss
when i helped a quake friend move here from france shit like this was like... what our lessons were about
sort out good cv?
check
has watched iconic british comedy?
check
knows to standard a safe?
check
sorted.
rough sapphire
oh FUCK
plucky ridge
Cheers
rough sapphire
i need to sort out my CV before next month
for some government contract thing
i've never written a CV before and i'm sorta scared
plucky ridge
There are plenty of guides online
gentle moss
try to keep it to 1 page
undone berry
One page for a CV, more for a resume
undone berry
they essentially aren't
thats literally the only difference
and not even a strict difference
plucky ridge
Huh
gentle moss
the biggest mistake in CV's is that
no one wants to turn the page to read about other shit
you're going in the bin
plucky ridge
"To see a cool picture I drew of a dinosaur, turn over"
gentle moss
if you do have a 2 page CV the page 2 should be like, random bullshit that's not that important
if your CV can't hold its own with 1 page
you shouldn't make a page 2
undone berry
I'd just like to say - I'm great at making CVs
gentle moss
mine have been good in the past
but i haven't done one in 3 years
doing a graphic design course as part of my media / music at college came in great help
rough sapphire
well, Mary, our sweet, sweet PR person sent me one of my colleague's CVs and told me to just replace whatever he had in there with whatever applies for me
undone berry
I can get the right mix of bulshitting and sincerity
rough sapphire
but damn, that shit just intimidated me even more
gentle moss
layout can make shit or break shit
rough sapphire
he has so many things on there
i've got nothing to put in place of it
also, i'm not exactly trying to impress anyone
i think it's just legally required for government contracts
gentle moss
interesting
notepad and dash list
boom, done
government can eat a dick
EAT THE RICH
plucky ridge
@rough sapphire if you have access to a university, you might be able to talk to a like guidance counselor or whatever they're called to help you proof it
gentle moss
^
undone berry
I'm sure you have similar things
rough sapphire
does it? i'm not ever sure what to put on there
gentle moss
it totally does
rough sapphire
should I list my CVEs on it? it seems petty
gentle moss
it's a note worthy achievement
undone berry
Yeah, that goes on there. Winning pretty much anything goes on there
Completely verifiable excellences?
gentle moss
"Historically as a security enthusiast I have discovered multiple vulnerabilities in a range of softwares."
that sort of bollocks
rough sapphire
@undone berry basically just vulns attributed to me
undone berry
Use bullet points everywhere, start every bullet with a verb
gentle moss
yeah, that's CV worthy i think
at least you're not having to figure out how to make "dude who carried stuff around a warehouse" sound impressive
"Warehouse Operative"
smh my head
undone berry
It is, but it doesn't sound good on a CV
plucky ridge
Bring extra bullets if you need spares
gentle moss
at the time i couldn't just leave it out either
as it'd leave a massive 6 month hole in my CV
rough sapphire
all of the noteworthy shit i've done has either been either criminal or
well
unethical at best
not exactly the things you'd list on a CV
gentle moss
well don't list CRIMES
plucky ridge
Depends
gentle moss
that'd be dumb
plucky ridge
Do mafias take CVs?
rough sapphire
would you be surprised to hear "yes"?
plucky ridge
In this day and age, not really
gentle moss
pretty sure i could've got a position in sales management if i put my illegal stuff in there
<_<
"oh wow.. that's a big client list... what did you say you did again?"
undone berry
"I handled various high value flora"
gentle moss
"Had to deal with a problematic client base, prone to disagreements."
plucky ridge
"Ask your mother"
gentle moss
hah
undone berry
"Senior position in community driven pharmacy"
gentle moss
"Comprehensive understanding of supply and demand."
rough sapphire
the kneecap bone
gentle moss
patella
plucky ridge
Right
gentle moss
thanks, i've got two
plucky ridge
Honestly I just couldn't remember
Figured the easiest way to get the answer was to frame it as a quiz
gentle moss
i was friends with a biology student at one point and she had a habit of memorising bone names on me
weird.
plucky ridge
"Was that inten- yeeaaaah it was"
gentle moss
hah, the late show with colbert's gone weird
since they have no audience
just freeballed it during rehersal and put that on air
plucky ridge
Did they blur it out or...
gentle moss
hah
it's a weird scenario
late night show with no loud audience
it feels somewhat more tolerable
rough sapphire
this whole "let's return to the 60's" feels kinda good
the not so much light pollution etc
there's less commercialism I guess since businesses are closed
the bare essentials are there though
rough sapphire
don't use it then
toilet paper is not a "bare essential" if you learn to wash your ass with water. pro tip.
the problem comes though if you're somewhere outside and then they don't have paper 
rough sapphire
though the washing your poophole with water and hands is not a bad idea. serious.
rough sapphire
well there are bidets all across europe
plucky ridge
Oh you mean those water fountains they have in the bathrooms
rough sapphire
those yeah
plucky ridge
Delish
rough sapphire
that stuff came kinda naturally after i had to go running at the doctors where they kept shoving stuff up my anus
turns out you don't mind sticking your own hands down there after a while
plucky ridge
Fair enough. Think we should probably steer this back towards less butt involved talk
rough sapphire
this is like the best talk ever. saved me from a lot.
plucky ridge
Uh... huh
sand goblet
Advertising is weird
"Let's talk about lamb, for a minute."
-- Totally normal wife to her totally normal family in a totally normal kitchen
gentle moss
:D
rough sapphire
Advertising is indeed weird.
"Hey, what was the number for that plumber we recently had? I wanted to call and thank them."
"Why, are you talking about JOHN SMITH'S PLUMBING LOCATED AT 777 AWESOME AVE. CHICAGO, ILLINOIS 86753?
THEIR NUMBER IS 555-867-5309 AND THEY DO ALL SORTS OF WORK THAT WE STILL NEED DONE!""Thanks! I'll call them right away!"
sand goblet
0118 999 881 999 119 725 3
sand goblet
Hah
rough sapphire
Yeah but it's 1-ply
sand goblet
Beats the three seashells
rough sapphire
three seashells definitely beats any-ply TP if you know how to use it
sand goblet
Al Boum Photo won the Cheltenham Gold Cup and I'm so mad at that name
rough sapphire
Ha, there's a reference I haven't seen in a while
rough sapphire
click on arrows
sand goblet
Most IDEs use some combination of CTRL, SHIFT, and +/- for code folding
undone berry
!resources has lots of links. Automate the Boring Stuff is the most commonly reccomended, and the MIT introduction to Computer Science is my reccomendation if you like the idea of lectures
royal lakeBOT
marble crest
Thx
vestal briar
I was doing that pipenv clone a bit ago and got annoyed at it
But this time i've tried it again and it looks like it will work well
265 lines just for a cli and parsing the toml file into a lock file db and vice versa
rough sapphire
That's what I thought.
Oh yeah now I got it, you declare the variables as globals at the START of the function.
vestal briar
Why is it zoomed in to that degree
rough sapphire
W h a t...
vestal briar
Why is is so zoomed in
rough sapphire
I think you can zoom back with scrolling back while holding CTRL or CTRL with -, I assume that from Chrome.
rough sapphire
Lmfao
It may be also that your browser has emulation on (In this case it may be Mobile emulation).
sharp merlin
nah i think its reasonable
frosty berry
interesting, youtube made me watch a 1h video about this guy, days ago
(i don't watch a lot of smash, and only watched melee stuff a couple time)
sharp merlin
there will never be another melee player like hungry box (or something similar) i bet
frosty berry
yes
that was a well written video, i don't normally care enough about that subject to watch 1h videos, even good ones.
well, at least the hook about the crab was effective
was a bit sad there was no conclusion to this particular story
tired osprey
frosty berry
yes
by content creators
they use every tool at their disposal to prevent me from stopping watching it
and some of them are really talented and smart
i'm no match
frosty berry
i opened youtube after a week earlier today, and opened most of the videos unwatched in my feed in a tab, to watch later
not all of them, but a good 20 of them i think
off getting that done i guess
3b1b has a nice one on exponentials, sigmoids and stuff, about the coronavirus, it's really good
frosty berry
Oh, i guess i mixed up with vi hart's :x
broken charm
hello everyone
does anyone know html / can point me to a discord or something?
having massive trouble with a language that runs with no errors 😦
rough sapphire
does or did anyone here go to the TU delft university in Netherlands?
need some advice here
who can explain it better what a Colloquium Doctum is ?
@broken charm You might want to look at Disboard, you can basically find Discord servers for every your need, there are alot of good web development servers, might wanna check em' out if you need help!
cuz i want to study computer science at that universtity
rough sapphire
rough sapphire
yeah it is
vestal briar
Imagine if visitengland done that
Everyone would either joke about it or get very very serious about a whole swear word
rough sapphire
yeah, we're really not that prude
gentle moss
if visit england did that i'm pretty sure twitter racists would be all over it
but such is life
broken charm
Thanks @Ralfs!
rough sapphire
man fuck bacon
gentle moss
that's how they get the salt in
rough sapphire
it was not bacon but there wasn't the correct emoji 🤔
gentle moss
It would create a 19-person commission that’s completely controlled by the Attorney General and law enforcement agencies.
that's not good
bill barr is a trump shill and this appears to give him total control
vestal briar
Time to get arrested for accidently making something secure
frosty berry
this ship has sailed, but they are very much trying to bring it back to the port
gentle moss
that's the problem with legislation written by the technically illiterate and power hungry
frosty berry
it's quite a funny idea to have an empty shell voted into law, and to then be able to put about anything in that vehicle and have it have the force of law
vestal briar
Wasn't there something about a law meant for knife-crime in london where if anyone looks suspicious police can search
Was a couple years ago now, forgot the law
gentle moss
i mean that's the case whatever
if the police think you look shifty they can stop and search you
they just have to note down the reason they thought you looked shift
rough sapphire
🏏
by the end of this quarantine i'm either gonna be eating pure chocolate
or i'll have developed the most healthy eating habits i can
given that food delivery joints seem to have largely closed down.
gusty oar
java makes me sick :d
upper sand
just out of curiousity?ppl who go to MIT are all smart at next level??
sand goblet
prestige has nothing to do with intelligence
I would argue that for some people, going to MIT is a bad idea
given they own your project work
upper sand
ohhh but isnt it really hard to get into MIT
sand goblet
iunno, I was offered a scholarship and I'm a fuckin' idiot
it was probably because of my idea rather than anything else
we had this thing we had to do for transition year known as young entrepreneur
upper sand
thats actually freaking cool
sand goblet
it's not
upper sand
y??
sand goblet
the tl;dr is that my idea was a software project designed to help people with cerebral palsy to get their exercises in without painful stretch therapy
if I had gone to MIT and produced that project there, they would have owned it
upper sand
ye fair enough.
upper sand
but did u actually work on that project?
sand goblet
No, it's completely outside my expertise
I was kind of demotivated by the whole thing anyway when the person that won the competition had a project that was "kneepads for toddlers"
but, she was a girl, so
sand goblet
It was just something that was passed down to me from people working with the YE team
they wanted a girl to win
there were only like 2-3 girls out of our group of 15-16
upper sand
ahh i c.
sand goblet
pretty sure that's where my disillusion in identity politics stems from, haha
upper sand
as long as u dont regret it
sand goblet
Anyway, someday I may yet end up attempting it
but I don't have the skillset
I mean, yeah, I regret it
it was a complete waste of time
I mean, the competition as a whole, not turning down the scholarship
upper sand
ohhhhh
sand goblet
I don't regret turning it down haha
upper sand
someone might already do it tho before u try to attempt it
sand goblet
and I mean come on, how could anyone expect me to cope
upper sand
i mean like u would learn some valuable stuff from it but still u gotta do what u want .
sand goblet
It wasn't the right place for me to be