#ot1-perplexing-regexing

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gusty oar
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if y' know them you will become better

sand goblet
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Anyway we should do tabletop simulator sometime

undone berry
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I'd be willing to

gusty oar
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yeah it would be awesome

undone berry
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although I do'nt currently own it

sand goblet
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We can fix that

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@gentle moss what about you?

undone berry
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its not expensive - I just need to actually buy it

gusty oar
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yea its cheap

atomic tree
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are the channels zero indexed

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can i get a cookie for noticing

undone berry
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πŸͺ

atomic tree
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yay ty

gusty oar
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looks delicious

gentle moss
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what huh?

sand goblet
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Tabletop simulator

gentle moss
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for doing d&d online?

sand goblet
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Not D&D specifically

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Probably Betrayal

gentle moss
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ooooh

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i love betrayal

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and pandemic

sand goblet
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But do you own TTS?

gentle moss
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which seems highly appropriate right now

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no

sand goblet
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Can you? Haha

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It might be a nice weekend diversion

verbal rivet
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i use vim btw

gusty oar
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i use vim btw
@verbal rivet soooo.... what we supposed to do πŸ˜„

verbal rivet
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feel inferior?

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lmao

gusty oar
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no i feel you are boomer

undone berry
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There are emotes for all the editors except Sublime now

gusty oar
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πŸ˜„

verbal rivet
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pycharm fuck yeah

gusty oar
undone berry
gusty oar
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there are

undone berry
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oh yeah

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am just blind

gusty oar
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πŸ˜„

pine vector
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i don't see Visual Studio, or Segger Embedded Studio... 🀷

verbal rivet
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wheres the IDLE emote huh? 😀

gusty oar
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isn't enough that there are vscode emotion πŸ˜„

sand goblet
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there's no emacs one

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but I have an intellij from the discord4j server

pine vector
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does nano even have a logo? 🀣

gusty oar
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@sand goblet do you have prime πŸ˜„

sand goblet
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Prime?

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like, amazon prime?

gusty oar
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discord prime

sand goblet
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discord nitro?

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yes

gusty oar
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nitro sorry πŸ˜„

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ah because of that you can post that emoji then

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okay

pine vector
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"Discord. Shipped to your door in 2 days.." πŸ˜„

verbal rivet
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gdude if you dm me your email and discord password I will install a cool new dark theme for you

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πŸ‘€

gusty oar
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do you want his cc too πŸ˜„

verbal rivet
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why yes that would be useful as well

gusty oar
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ah it would be awesome yes

sand goblet
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I'm capable of doing that myself thanks

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:>

gusty oar
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he thinks you its so sweet πŸ˜‡

weary bramble
vestal briar
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Google drive does not comment on such matters.

weary bramble
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im not the only one?

sinful copper
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hey does anyone here use a web browser other than the major brand ones / can give any recommendations? I'm thinking of switching away from Firefox because I keep running into stability problems, and I don't like Chrome or Edge, wondering what good alternatives there are

frosty berry
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There are no non-niche alternatives

sinful copper
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i'm fine with a niche thing or a gecko/webkit reskin as long as it can run most websites

undone berry
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Is chromium ok?

sinful copper
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suspicious of gecko because i don't know the root of my firefox problems (i sometimes get runaway memory usage and sometimes twitter stops working in some tabs)

undone berry
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or do you want non-Chromium

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Vivaldi looks pretty dope

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but its just Chrome++

sinful copper
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I don't like chrome because of various annoying minor UI issues, and chromium is pretty much the same

frosty berry
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Opera is still a thing, and there is brave if you want to pay to browse without ads (i think), there are things like netsurf that are very lightweight but not sure about support of modern websites

sand goblet
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I use Firefox without issue lately

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If I wasn't using that, I'd recommend vivaldi

undone berry
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Opera have been doing some sketchy things lately

sand goblet
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Yes, it's chromium based, but it's developed by the people that made the old power user opera browser

frosty berry
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Vivaldi is a better opera, right?

sinful copper
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yeah i'm deeply suspicious of opera as a company, even though i used to love the browser back in the old days

sand goblet
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Kinda tshirtman

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Vivaldi is basically chromium for power users

sinful copper
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they had tabbed browsing (well, subwindow MDI with an embedded taskbar, which is 90% there) before it was cool

sand goblet
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It has a built in tabs sidebar for example

sinful copper
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might try vivaldi see how it goes

sand goblet
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It's really good

sinful copper
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i just - i'm getting tired of having to restart firefox multiple times a day

frosty berry
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Ok right, i thought it was still the opera engine, but i guess it might also be chrome inside at this point.

sand goblet
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It's chromium, yeah

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Presto is dead

frosty berry
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I don't have any issue with firefox either though

undone berry
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Practically everything is Chromium now, its just Firefox thats not

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afaik

sand goblet
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Firefox has memory leak issues

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It always has had them

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I just have enough RAM for it to not matter

undone berry
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I keep trying and failing to switch to Firefox

sinful copper
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Twitter is worse than any other site and it only really started getting bad after their redesign last year, so I suspect it's just something Twitter is doing that is hitting firefox the wrong way

sand goblet
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You could use tweetdeck

sinful copper
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maybe

sand goblet
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Twitter itself is very slow for me in all browsers

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I mostly use talon on mobile

sinful copper
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or maybe i'll use, like, IE for Twitter and Firefox for everything else

frosty berry
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ok, maybe it's because of the 16g i have, but even if i have a lot of tabs, it's usually fine, if it's not i go to about:performances and see what must go

sinful copper
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I'm not really bothered with memory usage per se, I have 16 GB

undone berry
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I'm curious how many is a lot of tabs for you?

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for me its like 20

sand goblet
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32g here

sinful copper
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but sometimes stuff just stops working

frosty berry
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Twitter is a memory hog with messages piling up

sand goblet
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A lot of tabs would be around 100-150 for me

frosty berry
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Just refresh the page

sand goblet
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The main reason I can't move to vivaldi right now is because while it does have tab grouping, it's not a tree

vestal briar
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20-30 for me

sinful copper
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it's doing something that fucks the thread/process the tab is running in

sand goblet
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Tab groups add tabs to the tabs

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So you have tabs with tabs

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If that makes sense

vestal briar
sinful copper
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I can sometimes identify that process and kill it in the task manager and get "tab crashed" and it's fine after, but firefox doesn't reliably let me kill one process without taking down the browser, it only works sometimes

vestal briar
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Feels like a new googley way to block firefox on youtube for a bit

frosty berry
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It does, though it's hersy :p

vestal briar
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Works fine after a 5 second wait

sand goblet
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Use the YouTube enhanced extension

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Whatever it's called

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It's great

frosty berry
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@sinful copper you can use sigstop/sigcont to probe who's affected without killing things

sinful copper
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i'm on windows

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(and windows has no equivalent to sigstop/sigcont other than attaching a full blown debugger to the process)

frosty berry
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I do have shortcuts to stop/cont the whole firefox, highly convenient if i want to save power

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Windows… sorry for you

sand goblet
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I'm also on windows

sinful copper
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maybe i'll set up a dual boot

frosty berry
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I'd encourage you to do so :)

sinful copper
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i'm not opposed to linux really, just the windows wsl thing has been good enough for my needs since getting my new pc which i installed windows on for gaming

terse sluice
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once i set up my dual boot, i rarely went back to windows

sand goblet
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I was the same until I got windows pro

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Then I just didn't need Linux anymore

sinful copper
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i bought windows home to save money

undone berry
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I don't play games a huge amount of the time, but I found the switching was too annoying for me to default to Linux

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so my dual boot was pretty irrelevant

vestal briar
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I'm happy with a linux vm

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Got a powerful enough pc I don't have to worry

terse sluice
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yeah the laptop i have without windows pro is the one i dual booted

sand goblet
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I thought having to switch to game would stop me slacking off

frosty berry
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I have hibernation working on both os, so switching is not too inconvenient

sand goblet
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But I reboot so fast that it hardly matters

frosty berry
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Takes a couple minutes, but no state loss

sinful copper
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i wonder if there's a way to share firefox browser profile between windows and linux

sand goblet
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I do not hibernate

frosty berry
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I hate having to open everything again

terse sluice
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yes, sign in

sand goblet
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@sinful copper Firefox sync?

undone berry
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Windows launching a million things at boot is super annoying

vestal briar
sand goblet
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Manage your startup then

frosty berry
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I always have dozens of program open on linux

undone berry
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Most of it I want to start, I just don't want it to start in my face

frosty berry
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They are not always the same things

terse sluice
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i disabled so many things on boot that were useless

sinful copper
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i think i set up a firefox sync account once and lost it

sand goblet
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My dev tools are too heavy to be doing that

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I actually need all 8 cores

sinful copper
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because they do this end to end thing where you can't recover your password

frosty berry
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And a lot are processes in terminals

sinful copper
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which is great but i don't know if i can register another one

terse sluice
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i reset my password for firefox sync last week

sand goblet
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You can reset it

sinful copper
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it might have been the thing they had before then

sand goblet
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You'll just lose your sync data

undone berry
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Both Chrome and Firefox sync have been pretty good for me

terse sluice
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you do?

sand goblet
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Yeah, but if you already had a browser up to date then that's irrelevant

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Since it'll just sync it again

terse sluice
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hmm i reset my pw and signed in on a new install of manjaro

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and it all synced up

sand goblet
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Were you signed in on your phone maybe?

terse sluice
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oh yeah i am. is that why?

sand goblet
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They said it was e2e encrypted last I checked, I hope it still is

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If it is then they can't get at the sync data but your password will be used to decrypt it

terse sluice
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yeah it's still e2e encrypted i'm pretty sure

sand goblet
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Vivaldi does the same, but with a separate encryption password

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Tbh if vivaldi had tree style tabs it'd be perfect

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There are addons that sort of do it, but it's not as ideal as the addon for Firefox

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Vivaldi also has some proprietary components, because you're not allowed to open source any DRM code

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Although I guess Firefox probably is similar in that regard..

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Anyway, I'm off, o/

sinful copper
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bye thanks

sinful copper
pine vector
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SecureBoot on in BIOS? trying to remember if that got me when i was dual-booting...

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@sinful copper

sinful copper
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not in a good position to check, i just booted into windows to check the gpt table

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i'll look into it when i restart again though

pine vector
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tired brain isn't picking the memories out. i think its either SB or encrypted disk related. fairly certain i remember seeing that screen, and having the same reaction though. (BitLocker, i like you...but i also hate you.)

sinful copper
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well i turned off fast startup in windows, which something said might help

pine vector
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yeah, that does help

sinful copper
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with other ntfs recognition in ubuntu even if not this case

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weird that it can't detect that situation though

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plus it detected the volumes themselves just fine

pine vector
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gl! i'm off...

sinful copper
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thanks

sinful copper
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I ended up getting it working... I disabled fast boot in windows, and also there was a UEFI option for the usb stick in the boot menu and i picked that one - either or both might have fixed it

rough sapphire
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been doing a lot of ansible + vcenter today on a very large scale operation

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and it's making me fucking depressed

gentle moss
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aww

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get a squeezy toy

rough sapphire
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it takes literally 80 seconds to deploy a single openwrt machine

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why me

sand goblet
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hey man, at least you didn't have to reboot because you had too many firefox tabs open

rough sapphire
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Hey man, at least you don't have to disconnect all other devices from wifi to download 50 mib file

sand goblet
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hey man, at least you're not one of the infected

rough sapphire
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Something something Infected Mushroom something something

gentle moss
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don't be suliman

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you'll leave me deeply disturbed

rough sapphire
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Heavyweight is probably one of my top 3 by them, honestly.

gentle moss
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that whole album is excellent

rough sapphire
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Anything post 2012 is.. different.

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Guitarmass is great too

gentle moss
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the early stuff is pretty goapsy but done well

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Converting Vegetarians is still my favourite

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album i mean

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it's when they first really started to shift to writing songs rather than trance

rough sapphire
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Yeah, pretty good album

gentle moss
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saw them do a dj set live, but saw then at the bar before hand

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had a small fan praise chat

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:D

rough sapphire
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Neat

gentle moss
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did i see runescape in minecraft while i was eating my lunch?

gusty oar
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in 2-3 months whole world will be infected i guess.maybe 1/3 world will die

gentle moss
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a) no.

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b) no.

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c) i am most company.

rough sapphire
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@gusty oar deadbrain math there

gentle moss
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fuck macs

undone berry
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why?

gentle moss
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got a customer mac here that my apprentice has been fighting with.

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they want an RDP service on it

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but also want to run some parallels image

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after upgrade parallels had to be re-installed and it's now not loading their image

undone berry
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I understand maybe 10% of the problem - but it does sound annoying

gentle moss
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doesn't help that the whole UI feels like garbage

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i have an easier time getting around a mac in the shell

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it doesn't make any sense why the image stopped working

solid pollen
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You gave a broken mac to the apprentice?

gentle moss
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i don't want to touch that garbage

solid pollen
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Haha fair

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But you’ll probably end up with a more broken garbage in your hands haha

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Or is he going to manage to lock himself out of the mac?

gentle moss
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hah

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tbh the fact it's come up to me means something's proper broken

sand goblet
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you have great faith in your users

gentle moss
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whatcha mean?

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also, parallels seems like garbage

gentle moss
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i want to launch this shit into the fucking sun

rough sapphire
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Welcome to Apple

gentle moss
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i try to keep my hands off these things

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i don't mind doing the hardware repairs on them but touching the software makes me feel dirty

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apparently parallels images can just randomly break for no decent reason

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especially during a mac os upgrade

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man, it's gonna be weird not coming into the office for 2 weeks

undone berry
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The corona stuff is gonna go on longer then 2 weeks im pretty sure

gentle moss
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yeah, that's our baseline for not officing

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being official, if you will

rough sapphire
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apple has good screens

undone berry
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Apple has pretty standard screens

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for the phones at least, Samsung make them

rough sapphire
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and fucking amazing aesthetic

undone berry
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So I assume its a contractor for the laptops as well

sand goblet
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apple aesthetic kind of sucks tbh

rough sapphire
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no dude

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they have the most solid aesthetic

sand goblet
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hey man, I don't like to program on a bag of skittles

rough sapphire
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even if you don't like it

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they nail it

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the hardware is trash

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the software is pretty

sand goblet
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if by nailing it you mean you can look at it and go "that's apple" then sure

undone berry
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I'm also a fan of the aesthetic

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but I also like the aesthetic of most thin and lights

rough sapphire
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thinkpad also nails it's aesthetic

undone berry
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I disagree there

sand goblet
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I like oneplus' brightly coloured phone backs

rough sapphire
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i'm talking about laptops and computers

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disregarding phones

sand goblet
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well I don't give a single damn how a desktop looks tbh

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nobody gon' see it

rough sapphire
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ok caveman

undone berry
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I care about a laptop more than I care about a phone

sand goblet
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I can see people caring about a laptop

terse sluice
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i agree with that. me too

rough sapphire
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everybody cares how everything looks in their house to some degree

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playing it off as something you don't mind about is just cringe

sand goblet
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I don't care about the black box under my desk that I literally never look at

undone berry
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I could imagine a world where I care about how my desktop looks - but its such a pain in the ass to keep it pretty that it aint worth it

rough sapphire
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at least put a plant over it or something

sand goblet
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function over form

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it's a nice case tbh, but I never look at it

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nobody does

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it's under the desk

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the best thing about it is that the psu swings out of the way

rough sapphire
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most room aesthetics fit with apple pcs a well designed case

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about aesthetic

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one time i visited a friend's house, and deadass he had clothes on the FLOOR

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he told me it was normal

undone berry
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definitely normal

sand goblet
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yeah pretty normal

rough sapphire
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man y'all are

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hnng

sand goblet
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I mean I don't actually have like

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a place to put dirty clothes

rough sapphire
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use a bag

sand goblet
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so they just go in this one spot on the floor

rough sapphire
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what kinda guy just

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hnnnng

undone berry
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same here

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I just lob em in the corner

sand goblet
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I mean I have a basket

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that's got the clean clothes in it

rough sapphire
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clean clothes are folded

sand goblet
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Nah that's a bit pointless for like, tracksuits

undone berry
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Practically none of my clothes are folded

rough sapphire
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you only wear tracksuits

undone berry
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smartish stuff hangs in a wardrobe

sand goblet
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yeah smartish stuff in the wardrobe

undone berry
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shitty tshirts or whatever just stay in the basket

sand goblet
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my wardrobe is fucking full

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good luck fitting anything else

plucky ridge
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You should donate old stuff you don't use

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But I'm right there with you, I have loads of tshirts I could probably donate. I still haven't unpacked all of my clothes from when I moved to my new place and I STILL have trouble fitting all my shirts in a drawer

gentle moss
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i've got some t-shirts i'll never throw

solid pollen
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If you have the store H&M in your country they also recycle old clothes and give you a discount for it, one rock two birds like they say, or whatever the expression actually is two birds with one stone, thanks hem

gentle moss
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like a fellowship of the rings t-shirt i got near release

plucky ridge
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Two birds with one stone

gentle moss
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a qcon 2004 t-shirt

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sidewalk skate magazine t-shirt from 2002 or so

plucky ridge
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I guess I'm just not as sentimental. Although I say that and still hold on to my old SNES despite never using it...

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Hmmm

undone berry
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I've heard over here that a lot of places don't need tshirts. What they need most is socks and underwear because they can't/won't take used stuff for that

solid pollen
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You can't compare a SNES to some old garby t-shirts

plucky ridge
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Eh, I guess. From a sentimental point of view I certainly can

solid pollen
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That's a blasphemy

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Haha

gentle moss
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i don't think i'm that sentimental about them, they're just some of the most comfortable shirts

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years of being smoothed out

plucky ridge
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Ah I gotcha

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I just have the issue that everyone seems to think they're the best gift for me

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I'd rather just not get anything, I don't want for much

undone berry
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I feel like the most t-shirts are new ones

plucky ridge
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Most comfortable ones you mean?

undone berry
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yes

plucky ridge
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For me it's any of the ones that don't have tags

undone berry
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not sure what happened to comfortable there

plucky ridge
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Hate tags

undone berry
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just went missing

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tags are the absolute worst

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No idea how they're still a thing

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in the way that they are

gentle moss
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oh, i've got a nice portal shirt too

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idk, some new t-shirts are nice

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suppose it depends on how much you spend on one

rough sapphire
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i'll let you guys in on a secret

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china is fucking amazing and crazy

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i'm here in panama for visit

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and there are these chinese stores everywhere, where they sell generic electronics, fruit, and sometimes coconuts

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the most important bit

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the shirt i'm wearing cost 3$

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and they usually cost 1 ~ 2$

sand goblet
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jeez, what kind of cheap shirts are you buying

rough sapphire
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there is no other option

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the malls here

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you can actually buy things in the malls in panama

sand goblet
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I mean

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that's what malls are for

rough sapphire
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at least where i live (USA), malls are gigantic and everything is expensive

sand goblet
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You're probably in an arcade rather than a mall

rough sapphire
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there's always a "chino a la vuelta"

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chinese dude at the corner

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there are so many cheap phone repair places

sand goblet
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frankly you shouldn't trust any of these places

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you're probably in a tourist trap

rough sapphire
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frankly, you haven't been here

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and i'm in the capital

undone berry
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Panama City has a pretty sketchy reputation

rough sapphire
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laws don't exist

sand goblet
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that's probably why it has a sketchy reputation

rough sapphire
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i saw a metal spoon on the floor right after leaving a big supermarket

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you get like, 5 bananas for a buck on the street\

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PEOPLE SELL YOU FRUIT ON THE STREET

sand goblet
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that's.. fairly common

undone berry
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What country are you from?

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I assume the US?

rough sapphire
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yes

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but i speak native level spanish

night crown
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Selling food on the streets is fairly common

undone berry
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Have you left the US much?

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In most of the world its pretty standard to sell food on the street

sand goblet
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Yeah I've seen that basically everywhere

terse sluice
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many places in the US sell food on the street

undone berry
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Even in the US places like NY have hot dogs

rough sapphire
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not on the street

undone berry
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or at least so the television tells me

rough sapphire
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i didn't mean that

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in your car

night crown
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And many places have farmers markets, where they set up stalls in the streets

sand goblet
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What, they rock up with a bunch of bananas while you're in traffic?

rough sapphire
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yes

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it's amazing

sand goblet
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Sketch af

terse sluice
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that's.. interesting

rough sapphire
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you pay a dollar and you get 5 nanas

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they sell onions, tomatoes

undone berry
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This sounds like the people who come and wash your windows in the US

rough sapphire
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nanas

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they wash your car

night crown
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I experienced that in Mexico as well

undone berry
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yeah

rough sapphire
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yes that too

undone berry
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you don't really want that

night crown
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when you're waiting in line at the border, people will come up to your car to sell you stuff

undone berry
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no way am I eating shit from some sketchy guy selling car to car

rough sapphire
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dude

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that's ;luxury

sand goblet
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You're so naiive Safir

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Haha

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Are you telling me you were planning on buying bananas today?

rough sapphire
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no

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but it was a dollar

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and my five year old sister

sand goblet
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So then you just bought something you didn't need

undone berry
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tbf, that is to some extent the fun of a holiday

rough sapphire
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she swallows bananas at a pace of 3 to 4 per day

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we need bananas

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gdude, my dude

sand goblet
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Emperor's new clothes

rough sapphire
#

you can only be so smart

undone berry
#

But I'm still not buying no nanas from the car to car salesman

sand goblet
#

Yeah I definitely wouldn't

#

Doesn't sound trustworthy

terse sluice
#

yup no thanks

rough sapphire
#

some also sell you fucking coconut juice with coconut meat

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in a cup

#

IN THE CAR

sand goblet
#

Not buying that either

rough sapphire
#

it's ice cold and super healthy

#

fresh from the nuts as well

#

you don't get that kinda luxury in the us

undone berry
#

I wouldn't be surprised if the locals hated you for encouraging this behaviour

sand goblet
#

I have no idea why you call this luxury

rough sapphire
#

charlie

#

you have like

#

never been here

sand goblet
#

Neither have you, apparently

#

Haha

rough sapphire
#

they sell you on the street

undone berry
#

I haven't been there

#

but I know in places like Lebanon

#

tourists just make things shitter for locals

rough sapphire
#

i don't yell at some coconut vender to crack open a cold one for a buck

undone berry
#

yeah

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but you're the mug

#

who buys it for a buck

rough sapphire
#

at the metro, they also sell it

undone berry
#

meaning all the locals

#

deal with mr fucking coconut

rough sapphire
#

trust me i'm not the only one sippin' sweet nut juice

#

that's the price

#

is it too expensive? i think it's cheap

sand goblet
#

People running actual local businesses are gonna hate those people

terse sluice
#

cheap is not always good

sand goblet
#

Also that's not cheap

#

Haha

rough sapphire
#

actual local businesses are like, 90% chinese people that came in the last decade

#

usually phone repairers or fruit sellers

sand goblet
#

There will be an actual grocery store somewhere

#

People can't just live off of fruit and glass slabs

rough sapphire
#

that's not a local business

#

gotcha

#

there are some super markets

#

but all the small stores are chinese owned

sand goblet
#

I mean, Chinese ownership doesn't mean they suck

rough sapphire
#

i didn't mention they did

sand goblet
#

What you need to be aware of is tons of the same type of store in a small place

rough sapphire
#

they're very convenient

sand goblet
#

They're not selling you stuff in your car because they like you

#

They're doing it because it's lucrative somehow

#

Like you're spending a dollar on 5 bananas but where did those bananas actually come from?

#

Why can they be so cheap?

#

You're just not asking the questions

undone berry
#

is it a part of the great panamanian banana conspiracy?

rough sapphire
#

i'm just saying, that you feel like a king drinking nuts in the car

sand goblet
#

Coconuts are pretty easy to get my dude

rough sapphire
#

bananas are so cheap because of the borderline slave labor, and that they're grown here, so the transportation isn't long, i know

#

i don't actually know if it's borderline slave labour

#

maybe those are the ugly bananas left over from the supermarket

sand goblet
#

They're probably cutting costs somewhere

rough sapphire
#

i'm not a banana collector

#

but the bananas are cavendish like they are in the usa

sand goblet
#

And if they're coming up to your car then they're clearly desperate to get rid of them

vestal briar
#

What have I walked into

rough sapphire
#

they bring in baskets full every day and stay on a side walk or on a grassy area near cars

#

do you want a picture of the naners?

#

they're fine

sand goblet
#

Have you eaten one? Haha

vestal briar
#

I.. I walked into someone's banana?

undone berry
#

I'll look at a picture of the nanas

sand goblet
#

Yeah, why not

rough sapphire
#

of course i've eaten one

#

they taste the exact same as in the usa

#

if you knew anything about naners, is that they're all genetic clones

undone berry
#

which in all fairness tells us nothing about the quality

vestal briar
#

Bananas are weird, they are probably the most portable but most easy to damage fruit at the same time

rough sapphire
#

"quality" means that Publix throws out tons of perfect food because of a blemish or wrongish shape

undone berry
#

I feel like apples are the most damagable

sand goblet
#

Appal

#

You ever bruise an apple?

gentle moss
#

eple

rough sapphire
#

sorry all my naners are gone

#

i'll send you a picture tomorrow

sand goblet
#

We're gonna get a photo tomorrow and it'll turn out you've been eating plantains all your life somehow

vestal briar
#

Sure you can bruise an apoolie but it doesn't become a smoothie

sand goblet
#

:>

undone berry
#

I googled panana in the hopes google would figure it out - but no

sand goblet
#

Haha

rough sapphire
#

plantains taste like heck raw

sand goblet
#

They do, I agree

rough sapphire
#

PANANA

#

ABA|HAHAH

sand goblet
#

Apparently Panama Disease is a thing

#

It kills banana crops

#

And it's resistant to fungicides

#

It sounds like you'd have to know what you were doing to grow bananas

rough sapphire
#

none of my nanas are infected

sand goblet
#

Currently, a new outbreak of Panama disease caused by the strain Tropical Race 4 (TR4) threatens the production of today's most popular cultivars, Cavendish.

rough sapphire
#

actually, i do sometimes see a non-normal black banana spot

#

they're not like the average black spot

sand goblet
#

Nah it doesn't affect the fruit directly

rough sapphire
#

that's proably the disease

sand goblet
#

It makes the plant itself weak and then it collapses

rough sapphire
#

i cut it off

#

huh!

#

the more you know

#

looks like i'll be getting 3 for a dollar instead of 4

#

what horror

sand goblet
#

You basically just wouldn't get fruit at all

#

It's like 1.20 for 6 bananas here btw

#

Yeah, about 1.25 a kilo

#

That's plenty of value for me!

rough sapphire
#

who doesn't want onions in the car

undone berry
#

sounds like you're getting sketchy bananas when you didn't even want them for about normal price (although they should be cheaper in the tropics)

rough sapphire
#

banana goes great with onion

sand goblet
#

Oh yeah? How much for onions?

rough sapphire
#

1 for 6

undone berry
#

how big are the onions?

#

that sounds about tesco price

#

except you're on holiday in panama

#

so have no use for onions

sand goblet
#

59c for 7 onions here

#

(that's a kilo - Tesco)

rough sapphire
#

in the car

#

and i'm not on holiday

sand goblet
#

The huge ones are about 40c each, but they're like, half the size of my head

rough sapphire
#

i'm visiting family

undone berry
#

thats on holiday

rough sapphire
#

it's been 2 months or so, not really a visit

undone berry
#

o

#

ok, yeah, thats not really a holiday

sand goblet
#

At least the coronavirus hates warm temps!

undone berry
#

maybe you could be patient 0 of some new virus that jumped to humans via sketchy bananas?

#

then you won't feel left out

rough sapphire
#

yoo

#

check out all i learned today

#

i learned like, very little of the basics of pygame!

sand goblet
#

In the car?

rough sapphire
#

at home

#

i'm at home

#

why's it all chopped up

#

i'll send a screenshot

sand goblet
#

So a young coconut costs about 2.50 here

#

Those are the tastiest by far

#

Coconuts are a pain in the ass to prepare though

rough sapphire
#

prepare?

#

the chinese guy around the corner cracks it open for me

#

i even learned how to crack it open

#

it's a special metal stabby thing

#

you just stick a straw in and succ

sand goblet
#

I mean you only actually need a machete or square chef knife

#

Was it a furry coconut?

rough sapphire
#

yeah if you wanna be a caveman

#

ohhh you mean those brown ones

#

no no i mean green ones

sand goblet
#

Oh green ones

rough sapphire
#

those have way more juice

sand goblet
#

Yeah those are youngish too

#

I had the woody angular ones in mind

rough sapphire
#

those have too much sugar imo

sand goblet
#

Different region though I expect

#

Y u no embed

rough sapphire
#

those are from thailand

sand goblet
#

Yes they are

rough sapphire
#

oh wow they come peeled too

#

cute

sand goblet
#

You don't like sweet coconut though?

rough sapphire
#

i don't like to be fat?

sand goblet
#

Everything in moderation

rough sapphire
#

sugar without the presence of fiber is digested very quickly

#

so it raises your blood sugar rapidly

#

which has loads of bad side effects

#

yeah but some things you just never do in moderation, or at all

#

like drinking alcohol or smoking

sand goblet
#

I mean, yeah, but coconuts aren't exactly an addictive drug haha

rough sapphire
#

not the green ones

sand goblet
#

These neither

#

But hey, if you have no self control

rough sapphire
#

mangos are more like an addictive drug imo

#

mangos are too sweet

#

idk how anyone eats them

sand goblet
#

I mean to be fair you bought bananas from a car to car guy

rough sapphire
#

everybody

sand goblet
#

Mangos are okay, I'm not a huge fan

rough sapphire
#

buys bananas

#

from the car to car dude

sand goblet
#

Bananas are empty calories too btw

#

Unless you count the potassium I suppose

#

They're just big ol starch bombs

rough sapphire
#

and have fiber

sand goblet
#

Not much

rough sapphire
#

i don't wanna argue diet because there are many dumb people who argue about diet

sand goblet
#

I mean, I'm on a diet myself, but I did a lot of food related study

#

Around 6 years of it

rough sapphire
#

i think that there are many proven healthy diets, if done right

sand goblet
#

Yep

rough sapphire
#

some are very high fat some are high carb

sand goblet
#

Yeah not a huge fan of that

#

I've done keto, and it was nice but.. Eh

rough sapphire
#

what matters for me is how much total junk garbage you eat

#

yeah it depends

#

junk garbage would be like

#

cake, bacon, fries, chips, fried food

sand goblet
#

The one I'm doing involves portion control and replacing 1/3 of your plate with nutritious fruit/veg

#

And avoiding calorie dense foods

rough sapphire
#

it's probably the least interesting thing to talk about because everybody's opinion is wrong and right, and also doesn't matter

#

i wanted to ask a thing

sand goblet
#

Go on

rough sapphire
#

is it polite to ask people to look at your code and check if it's garbage or inefficient?

sand goblet
#

Well, yes, but most people don't want to spend that kind of time

rough sapphire
#

impolite*

sand goblet
#

Unless it's short

rough sapphire
#

how short would my picture be

#

that's the full code

#

everything in there is new stuff from today

sand goblet
#

It's an image and it has no syntax highlighting

#

So pretty low chances

#

Doesn't look terribly long though

rough sapphire
#
pygame.init()

WIDTH,HEIGHT = 800,600
game_window = pygame.display.set_mode((WIDTH,HEIGHT))
RED,GREEN,BLUE,BACKGROUND_COLOR = (255,0,0),(0,255,0),(0,0,255),(0,0,0)
playersize = [50,50]
playerpos =[WIDTH // 2 , HEIGHT - 100]

game_over = False
while not game_over:

    for event in pygame.event.get():

        print(event)
        if event.type == pygame.QUIT: # quit event listener or whatever it's called
            sys.exit()

        if event.type == pygame.KEYDOWN:
            x = playerpos[0]
            y = playerpos[1]
            if event.key == pygame.K_LEFT:
                x -= playersize[0]
            elif event.key == pygame.K_RIGHT:
                x += playersize[0]
            playerpos = [x,y]

    game_window.fill(BACKGROUND_COLOR)
    pygame.draw.rect(game_window, RED, ((playerpos[0], playerpos[1]), (playersize[0], playersize[0])))
    pygame.display.update()
#

it makes a little shape and lets me move it

sand goblet
#

One line per import statement

#

I can't remember why unfortunately

rough sapphire
#

that's not new

sand goblet
#

You have two imports on one line

#

It should be two import statements

rough sapphire
#

ok

#

i'll change it

sand goblet
#

Also you're assigning too many variables on single lines

#

But hard to follow

#

On the other hand, you can do x, y = playerpos

#

Instead of unpacking it manually

#

Seems mostly fine really, probably could do with different spacing but I'm on mobile and it'd take too long to type out

#

Anyway it's late , so I'm sleeping :v

rough sapphire
#

thanks

#

sweet dreams

vestal briar
#

Can Foster the people with "pumped up kicks" be classed as a one hit wonder?

#

Nvm, they made more hits than I thought

#

All of their songs are "ahh I've heard this a million times and I finally know the name"

gentle moss
#

you could argue they're one hit wonders because they only had one hit

#

that's all i know them for

sand goblet
#

Same

gentle moss
#

yeah, they're a one hit wonder.

gusty oar
#

i can't block this youtube ads on ios

rough sapphire
#

buy premium easy

summer vector
#

Anyone got something cool to learn? some interesting tech or lang? πŸ˜„

graceful basin
#

ponylang is pretty cool

summer vector
#

Oo, it is !

#

Ill take a deeper look, thanks πŸ‘

tired osprey
#

rust and embedded is prettz cool as well

vestal briar
#

Finally, a fully working drone arm

#

Just need to print 3 more arms and then this project is finished

wind turtle
#

is it sentient

#

or will it be sentient

vestal briar
#

100%

wind turtle
#

so it will on it's own go to a location and has something like ```py
if drone.going_to_crash():
drone.command("Don't")

vestal briar
#

I'm modifying a syma x5c, one of the cheapest "good" beginner ones

#

You can get one for Β£25 and they are actually decent drones

verbal rivet
#

i prefer $ sudo apt-get install drone

pearl horizon
#

This is my beard. There are others like it, but this one is mine. My beard is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it, as I must master my life. Without me, my beard is useless. Without my beard, I am useless. I must comb my beard true. I must grow longer than my enemy, who is trying to kill me. I must comb mine, before he combs his. I will. Before God I swear this creed: my beard and myself are defenders of my country, we are the masters of my enemy, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there is no enemy, but peace. Amen.

real dove
#

deep

gentle moss
#

having a full metal beard would be pretty sick

pearl horizon
#

I mean, mines almost two years old, but I keep it trimmed about the same length

versed path
#

I think I fkd up something on github, usually when I git pull origin master from my remote server from my local repository it just goes through automatically after inserting user/pw, but now every time I do that there's a merge edit that shows up, and it's super annoying / time consuming to exit out of that screen every time, which then replies with "merge made by the 'recursive' strategy"

#

After researching a little I think it has something to do with the fact that I edited something on another directory / branch, that's not the master branch? Not sure, but I would like to be able to fix that

terse sluice
#

making documentation is absolute torture

#

working with rst files is absolute torture

#

i am torturing myself

rough sapphire
#

@terse sluice how long does that take

terse sluice
#

that would depend on the size of the lib

#

docs are really tedious to do

rough sapphire
#

dang

solid pollen
#

That's why you should write docs as you are writing the library lemon_unamused lemon_pleased

gleaming hare
#

question

#

can i use a USB drive as a linux installer for the external SSD?

#

yeah, sounds stupid but thats the only way to install linux on a 2GB laptop

gentle moss
#

if your laptop supports booting off USB drives i see no reason why not

gleaming hare
#

i mean

#

look up Asus Eee PC 2G Surf

#

idk myself

gentle moss
#

oh jesus

#

those things are absolutely awful

#

idk if they support USB booting either

#

take a look in the bios

#

seems like they might

gleaming hare
#

ya wanna hear a funny?

torn raptor
#

maybe

gleaming hare
#

the only option when i press f2 to run setup on boot screen i that it gives a message:

american megatrends logo
AMIBIOS(C)2008 American Megatrends, Inc.
ASUS 700X ACPI BIOS Revision 0310
CPU : Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor

Press ESC for BBS POPUP
Initializing USB Controllers .. Done.
504MB OK (Installed Memory Size:512MB)
USB Device(s) : 2 Storage Devices
Auto-Detecting Sec Master..IDE Hard Disk
Sec Master: SILICONMOTION SM223AC
            Ultra DMA Mode-4, S.M.A.R.T. Capable and Status OK
Auto-detecting USB Mass Storage Devices ..
Device #01 : silicon-power *HiSpeed* (my boot usb)
Device #02 :
torn raptor
#

bruh !

gleaming hare
#

i typed it all out, case-sensetive lul

#

except the (my boot usb) part, thats just to know that bios sees my usb

#

O

#

it changed the screen

#

ok i configured the boot, saved, the laptop restarted and... nothing

#

just that asus logo screen again

#

btw the boot device 2 was an SD Card Reader

gentle moss
#

BBS popup might be a device selector screen

gleaming hare
#

update: i got it to run windows xp but no matter what i change it always runs windows xp

#

maybe i can try to...

#

boot linux alongside xpGWjianWut

gentle moss
#

you might need to do some bootloader fuckaboutery on the built in storage

solid pollen
#

Fuckaroundry we said

gentle moss
#

no this is very much a fuckaboutery, rather than a fuckaroundery

#

asus eee pc's are a fuckabout, not a fuckaround

solid pollen
#

Haha

gleaming hare
#

the most interesting thing:
the bootloader of BIOS sees a:

Rem. Device
HDD: SM-SILICONMOTION
USB: PHD SILICON-POWER
USB: silicon-power
gentle moss
#

yeah, the main storage on those things is some flash memory

gleaming hare
#

so all usb/storage i use seem to be from Silicon Power

#

WAIT

#

maybe

#

like

#

can i boot linux not from a usb stick BUT FROM AN SSD?

solid pollen
#

Why you couldn't?

gentle moss
#

if you can select boot device in some way

#

yes

#

i mean it'll have to be a USB connected drive at any rate

#

if it boots of USB, it should be fine

gleaming hare
#

it seems to choose an internal HDD (SM-SILMOTION) as it is main bootleader

gentle moss
#

yes, that's the built in flash memory

gleaming hare
#

every time i launch the laptop

gentle moss
#

if you press escape during post it might bring up a boot selection screen

gleaming hare
#

i'll try to do some fuckery around those

#

but first

#

windows xp test

#

as it seems the PHD is the storage i want to be the linux main storage

#

and the silicon-power is the usb stick

#

i tried a new config

#

letssee

#

ah

#
Start booting from USB device...

SYSLINUX 5.10 EDD 2013-06-04 Copyright (C) 1994-2013 H. Peter Anvin et al

Failed to load ldlinux.c32
Boot failed: please change disks and press a key to continue.```
#

how could i fix

#

hmmm

gentle moss
#

what installer is on the USB?

gleaming hare
#

i have 2 devices:
usb stick which has the linux installation shit
the HDD that will containt the OS itself

#

also i waited and it said:

gentle moss
#

yeah but what installer

#

the eee PC has a 32bit processor, for a start

#

so you'll need a 32bit version of whatever OS you want to install

gleaming hare
#
Start booting from USB device...

SYSLINUX 5.10 EDD 2013-06-04 Copyright (C) 1994-2013 H. Peter Anvin et al

Failed to load ldlinux.c32
Boot failed: please change disks and press a key to continue.

Reboot and Select proper Boot device
or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key

Start booting from USB device...

SYSLINUX 5.10 EDD_```
#

i used this for the usb stick

gentle moss
#

yeah that wont work

gleaming hare
#

extracted via UltraISO

gentle moss
#

it's a 64bit ubuntu install

gleaming hare
#

welp

gentle moss
#

i'd also not recommend installing full weight ubuntu onto an eee pc

#

you'll exhaust the laptop's memory just running it

#

i'd suggest going for a lightweight linux distro

#

like bodhi maybe

#

if you like ubuntu you could try lubuntu

gleaming hare
#

i just remembered that somewhere i have a laptop that kinda broke after a windows update

gentle moss
#

but at any rate, you're going to need a 32bit install of linux for that eee pc

gleaming hare
#

it had win10 and was running pretty epic

#

maybe i could try and find it for the linux

gentle moss
#

probably easier to install and run stuff on than an eee pc

#

they were a joke when they came out

#

now i wouldn't even use one as a door stop

gleaming hare
#

i looked at some distro and i seem to like crunchbang++

gentle moss
#

there are a number of lightweigh distros for older machines

#

the ultimate, if you happen to be running something on a toaster, is tiny core

gleaming hare
#

ik

#

i kinda want this E laptop to be my portative coding machine

#

and kinda featuristic and minimalistic

#

there is only one overall problem tho with this laptop

gentle moss
#

good luck getting much out of "features" out of it

gleaming hare
#

since its so old i cannot connect it to wifi, only LAN

gentle moss
#

1.6ghz single core and 512mb doesn't give you a lot of room

gleaming hare
#

ik right

#

also

#

i am atm using the Lenovo laptop with this always overheating AMD cpu and 8 (actually 7) GB of ram

#

atleast i bought a lan cable

#

an it can run TF2 at 30+ fps

#

also lol

#

it seems that i can have a portable linux on my ssd lulz

gleaming hare
#

ok ive got the linux on the drive

#

@gentle moss same problem

#

failed to load ldlinux.c32

gentle moss
#

what format is the USB installation media in?

#

fat16? fat32? exfat?

gleaming hare
#

fat32

gentle moss
#

try fat16

gleaming hare
#

only things i can do are fat32, exFat and NTFS

#

people say that i need to use win32 disk manager

#

imager

#

@gentle moss

#

is that right?

rough sapphire
#

I think FAT32's file size limit is 4GB

gleaming hare
#

yeah

rough sapphire
#

Ext4 or bust

gentle moss
#

my thinking is that there's a problem syslinux and fat32

#

which would be weird but eh, never know

#

seen people with the issue before

rough sapphire
#

Does Windows still not work when you have two partitions on removable USB drives?

gentle moss
#

windows still hates split partition USB's, yeah

gleaming hare
#

as i googled - everybody had a different issue
some needed to change the format of the drive
some needed to change the burning program

gentle moss
#

try those things then

#

and to be clear, this is on the lenovo laptop not the eee pc now?

gleaming hare
#

still EEEEEEE

#

i will try the Universal USB Installer

gentle moss
#

and you got the 32bit version of the installer, right?

#

not the 64bit

gleaming hare
#

ye

#

the 32b version of the installer and the distro

#

the distro is CrunchBang++

#

ok i extracted the iso, ill go eat and then ill try

#

im back

#

it seems that i made some progress

#

now there is no error but a blinking _ in the corner

rough sapphire
#

give it time

gleaming hare
#

IT HAS BEEN LIKE THAT FOR 10 MINUTES

gentle moss
#

what xx said

#

you've got an awful piece of shit computer

gleaming hare
#

cmon why my capslock gotta enable itself

#

ok then

gentle moss
#

give it a break

gleaming hare
#

i also fixed a little error in the bios

#

it has moved the boot drive again

#

10 minutes later...

#

nothing new

#

still the same underscore

gentle moss
#

hmmm

#

do you have a live usb stick lying around?

#

as in a live boot stick

gleaming hare
#

what does "live" in that case mean?

gentle moss
#

that you can boot off it into an OS rather than installing

gleaming hare
#

i don't even know

#

i think no

gentle moss
#

with such an awful piece of trash it's hard to tell what's wrong if it's hanging at the _

gleaming hare
#

i think its the MBR problem

gentle moss
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what you could do is install linux to your USB stick and just boot off that

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oh, did you select GPT?

gleaming hare
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whats gpt?

gentle moss
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MBR / GPT are types of boot record

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MBR is ancient, GPT is the new one

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old devices can't boot GPT

gleaming hare
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i think i have mbr

gentle moss
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the USB stick to install the OS must be setup to use MBR

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should be an option on creation

gleaming hare
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i think yes i have mbr

gentle moss
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do you have another computer you can verify the stick works in?

gleaming hare
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i saw that it said something like "mbr will be used on that device" or smth like that

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yes

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this current pc

gentle moss
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well, see if it boots to the installation process on that pc

gleaming hare
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oh

gentle moss
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just to confirm the stick works

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then we can rule out the idea of the install media being broken

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i mean, i'm pretty sure i know that it's entirely the eee pc's fault for being a pile of shit

gleaming hare
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true

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i mean it can run winXP

gentle moss
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it's not full blown xp

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if it's the XP that came with it, it's closer to an embed version

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iirc

pine vector
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eee's aren't that bad. its basically a PiTop at this point. i kind of want to pull my old one out now. haha

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yeah, XPLite, for the most part.

gentle moss
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512mb RAM and 1.6ghz single core is loooowwww spec

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which distro were you trying to install on it again?

pine vector
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i upgraded mine's RAM, ofc.

gleaming hare
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maybe i can boot tinycore on that laptop

gentle moss
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crunchbang?

gleaming hare
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*++

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yes

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crunchbang ++

gentle moss
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min spec for that is a pentium 4 and 512mb ram

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so i can see why it'd struggle on an atom n280

gleaming hare
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i will try to do tinycore

gentle moss
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tinycore is extreme imo, you could try like uhh

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puppy

gleaming hare
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tiny core will do for test

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i can even boot it derectly withour an external drive needed (but still i ned something other than the windows's C:)

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i hate typing late-evening

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is x86 32-bit compatible

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?

gentle moss
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x86 is 32bit

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x86-64 is 64bit

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usually referred to as amd64

gleaming hare
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ok

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i regret formatting the F: drive via UUI and not by myself

gentle moss
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have you tried rufus?

gleaming hare
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nope

gentle moss
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i haven't used any others, never had a problem with rufus

gleaming hare
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oh finally it finished formatting

undone berry
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I've had problems with not-rufus, but never had problems with Rufus

gleaming hare
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ok might try rufus

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ASA UUI finishes

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cmon it takes more time to format a drive than just install the goddamn thing

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maan i should've format it by myself

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aight,here comes the task manager

dusky orchid
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agree with the others, rufus just worksℒ️

gleaming hare
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should i end UniversalUSBInstaller mid-copy?

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cmon, the ISO is just 19mb, why does it take 10+ mins to copy it over

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the goddamn disk usage is ZERO

gentle moss
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killing it mid copy is fine

gleaming hare
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ok then

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bro my CPU jumped to 100% for a second when i killed it

gentle moss
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well duh, you're issuing a command

gleaming hare
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stupid question: when i am double-booting do i have to go to bios every time i want to change the working OS?

gentle moss
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if your bios doesn't let you define boot order and only has an "on boot" selection menu

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then yes

gleaming hare
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else?

gentle moss
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you can define boot order in the bios

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are you not full on replacing XP?

gleaming hare
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like this EEE has the boot order

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i am going to be replacing it

gentle moss
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so if you overwrite the XP install when you install linux

gleaming hare
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well i think not

gentle moss
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it'll still boot from that drive

gleaming hare
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xp is good

gentle moss
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lol

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stop using xp

gleaming hare
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i dont even use iiit

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lulz

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i just wanna have it for nostalgia

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like x pcame out in 2000 or so

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that was 20 yrs ago :o

gentle moss
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just get a little brick and write "XP" on it

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yeah, i'm aware

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i was alive and building PC's when it came out

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:3

gleaming hare
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i cannot delete UUI because it is being used by the UUI :|

gentle moss
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end it in task manager

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also yanking the USB stick out might help

gleaming hare
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when i take the drive out: System: 99% DISK USAGEE

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2 mb/s disk usage is apparently 99%

gentle moss
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looking at usage stats isn't going to help you any

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end the UUI .exe in task manager

gleaming hare
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i did it

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already

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i had all folders and all apps in place

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and theres this now

gentle moss
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did you not check the path inside the zip file before extracting? :P

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oh you didn't use the zip, nvm

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anyway, don't use a desktop to put shit on. create folders.

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a clean desktop is a happy desktop

gleaming hare
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i did so

gentle moss
gleaming hare
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ah yes

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ok time to test tinycore

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YES

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it works :D

gentle moss
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okay so it was probably a case of crunchy being a bit too heavy for the piece of shit

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but you could try again with crunchy

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but using rufus to create the usb media

gleaming hare
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i mean i could

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but a question

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where in thefuck is the home folder

gentle moss
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~/

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fyi tinycore is incredibly empty

gleaming hare
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now lets try crunchboi

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yes rufus said what was wrong with the cbpp

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some syslinux version shit waswrong and rufus seems to fix it

tired osprey
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why is it so hard to debug COM ports under windows