#ot1-perplexing-regexing

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sand goblet
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It is a neat system though, don't get me wrong, but I don't think it's actually all that suitable for discord-style communities

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I do really like the HTML home page you get for each community

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But it doesn't make all that much sense to me to have a community of rooms and then be unable to administer all of the rooms at the same time

gentle moss
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I just started Witcher 3 and was changing sense when

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I mean it IS between 95 and 93

rough sapphire
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man, floating points

gentle moss
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69 also does this

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Lmao

rough sapphire
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Nice.

gentle moss
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Nice

shell spear
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Nice.

robust sierra
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Nice

solid pollen
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Nice

rough sapphire
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Nice

white moon
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Nice

rough sapphire
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Nice

vestal briar
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Nice

plucky ridge
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Sheesh

wheat lynx
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For a second I thought discord was broken again

plucky ridge
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Oh trust me, it was

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But not in the way you'd expect

gentle moss
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nice

modern island
rough sapphire
rough sapphire
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wrong mirror, maybe

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also

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update your package index

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-Syy

plucky ridge
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-Syyu is your friend

rough sapphire
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let it be

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will do after this one

rough sapphire
plucky ridge
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Dumb question, does Advent of Code have an API?

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I don't see one besides for bindings via Haskell

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Huh... it doesn't even seem to have a robots.txt

oak tangle
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It depends on what you mean by API

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There are some endpoints available to grab json files of leaderboards and you can make regular requests to the individual puzzle days and data

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The only think Eric mentioned is that you should try to keep the number of requests limited

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To not overload the server

plucky ridge
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Yeah mainly I'm wanting a way to pull the input for the question if I don't have it yet

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Not a deal breaker, more just a curiosity

oak tangle
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You can

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It's just a text file and the url scheme is predictable

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That's how all those tools grab the input

plucky ridge
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Sure but isn't it different per user?

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How do you validate as you so you get the right input?

oak tangle
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Yes, it is; you'll need your session key and supply that during the request

plucky ridge
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Not sure where to start on that. I guess first thing I'll do is thumb through requests

oak tangle
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        cookies = {"session": os.environ.get("AOC_SESSION")}
        response = requests.get(f"https://adventofcode.com/2019/day/{day}/input", cookies=cookies)
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That's how I do it

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Just grab your session key out of a cookie

plucky ridge
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Oh interesting

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I'd never worked with cookies so I had no idea it would be that simplistic

oak tangle
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it's basically just text, with keys and values

plucky ridge
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Sure I more meant locating the cookie

oak tangle
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Ah, go to the website, open the developers console of the browser

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Go to storage

plucky ridge
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Gooooootcha

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Sorry, completely ignorant of this stuff. I appreciate it, Ves

oak tangle
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No need to be sorry!

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Granted, cookies are far less exciting than super volcanoes

plucky ridge
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Feel like I roll high on that die quite often

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Sure

oak tangle
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Everyone does, but people like bluff

plucky ridge
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Also I just realized something sad

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Kids will never get to experience the fun of Alka-Seltzer and film canisters

oak tangle
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Alka-Seltzer?

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I don't think we have anything called that here

plucky ridge
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Yeah, it's a Aspirin like product that is effervescent when dropped in water

oak tangle
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So, I get to be one of the lucky 10,000!

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ahhh

plucky ridge
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So you can make the tops of the film canisters pop off like little rockets

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Twas fun

oak tangle
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nice

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but no more?

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oh

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film canisters

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right

plucky ridge
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Yeeeep

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I mean I'm sure there are alternatives, but that's what we always used

oak tangle
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yeah

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those things were fun

plucky ridge
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And super convenient

oak tangle
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yes

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My parents probably still have quite a few of them with other stuff in them

plucky ridge
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Hold onto them for when you have kids

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They're great for all kinds of fun home sciency stuff

rough sapphire
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fr you could do so much with w3schools info

rough sapphire
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I'm installing Windows 10 back, I'll miss Linux.

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Why is it so hard.

sand goblet
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It's not hard, you're just not used to it

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There is a difference, haha

rough sapphire
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I mean, I already miss Linux lmao.

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I'll just install it on my usb stick and dualboot whenever i'll feel like.

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:^) It was lightweight and fast.

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:^) It was lightweight and fast.

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One thing, I found out.

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Whenever I look at for example in vscode, I installed it on Linux right.

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The UI was so crispy and nice.

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But, on Windows I could see every single pixel.

undone berry
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the rendering of something like vscode should be practically identical

rough sapphire
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But it wasn't.

undone berry
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this is you failing to set something up then

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can't blame the os for that

rough sapphire
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I could take screenshots on Linux without having to be ashamed of having a bad graphics card.

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I mean Windows was there all the time, it was updated every time a new update rolled out.

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I updated every driver.

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Linux looked nice tho. :^)

rough sapphire
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Maybe add a <br> (break) tag? Or add move the table away from the bar via css.

rough sapphire
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oh shit i forgot i could add a br

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thanks man

lime gazelle
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I wonder if I would enjoy drawing more than I do coding GWeniSadNeko

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Maybe I could do both

solid pollen
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I try to do both ^^

lime gazelle
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But you're already good at both

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I suck at both and probably don't have a passion for either

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I know we had this discussion before. GWsocksAngeryBob

solid pollen
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I kinda suck at both tbh

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You can always be better at something as long as you're motivated

lime gazelle
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But I'm not GWeniSadNeko

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to do anything

solid pollen
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Well, if you are looking for motivation, my best advice is to set you goal, like drawing a copy of something. It doesn't have to be something fancy, but it a bit better than the last thing you did, so get better and better, while reaching goals you set, which keep your motivation up for my experience

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We all started somewhere ^^

lime gazelle
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I knoow GWeniSadNeko

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Few people started out good.
But I'm not even motivated to improve, or try to

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Yet drawing seems very cool and chill, but I'm not sure I'd enjoy it

solid pollen
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Only one way to know :D

lime gazelle
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GWsocksAngeryBob I hate that

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I hate having to do things and then finding out I don't like them

solid pollen
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But then you'll never know if you'd have loved it

lime gazelle
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GWsocksAngeryBob that's some solid reasoning

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and what if I don't like it?

solid pollen
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Then you can just move on

lime gazelle
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Thanks, I'll give it a shot. Or at least I'll try to give it a shot

solid pollen
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Nice!

tardy frigate
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why is sep a nil value in this case? ```lua
function string:split(inputstr, sep)
for token in string.gmatch(inputstr, "[^"..sep.."]+") do
print(token)
end
end

string.split('test1:val1,test2:val2', ',')

lime gazelle
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do you pass sep to it?

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that's my only guess

tardy frigate
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i mean, its positional, and i give it two arguments, so it should have it

lime gazelle
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Yeah. But that's the only way it could be undefined

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unless it cannot find the token

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also what does [^"..sep.."] do

tardy frigate
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lua apparently does a funky thing where when defining a function with : it creates an invisible self argument, so that function technically has 3 positional arguments

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because using : creates a method rather than a function

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the .. is an operator in lua, its for concatenation

plucky ridge
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Ah, yeah. Specifying what language it is would help, yeah

lime gazelle
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So you're concatenating two strings?

plucky ridge
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They're trying to split it at the comma

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Not unlike what .split(',') would do in Python

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Wait

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Would you not have to somehow format the string that's in there?

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The sep I mean

tardy frigate
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wdym?

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my final function is ```lua
function string:split(sep)
local r = {}
for token in string.gmatch(self, "[^"..sep.."]+") do
table.insert(r, token)
end
return r
end

which works now.
plucky ridge
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So like in Python, if you tried to do that, it'd error out because once you close the quotes on "[^" well never mind then

tardy frigate
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how would it error out in python? like if i did regex.match(str1, "[^"+sep+"]+")

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or match_all iirc? dont remember which

plucky ridge
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Right, but again, I didn't know what language this was and didn't realize that .. was concatenating it

tardy frigate
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ah yeah, yeah. my bad ahaha

plucky ridge
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I see that you did say both those things a little earlier, but I tend to just jump to the bottom of a chat

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Situational awareness is not my strong suit today

tardy frigate
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ahaha, its fine dw about it

rough sapphire
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hwat language is that

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cobol?

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must be rubey

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but serious... what language is that

tardy frigate
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lua

rough sapphire
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they asked me once to write an nginx load balance in lua for a job interview

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didn't even know nginx supported lua lol

tardy frigate
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lmao, neither did i, i just make factorio mods and Löve games xD

stark prawn
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Whky not use existing load balancers?

rough sapphire
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the default nginx probably doesn't but there was some defactor standard lua thing

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@stark prawn the company was hardcore on doing web stuff and they were looking for some backend developer

tardy frigate
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were you atleast allowed to use google? and for the löve of god please tell me it wasnt timed

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i would literally walk out

rough sapphire
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@tardy frigate yeah it was for a remote thing. there was no time pressure what-so-ever. the implementation was 100% up to me. i ended up having to figure out that the default nginx doesn't even support it, then figuring out where to find one that does, then learning lua syntax, then learning what the hell a basic load balancer is supposed to look like, then copy-pasting some basic examples and trying to arse myself out of it. the code did come through but i didn't come out looking like the a team player they were looking for

tardy frigate
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well, atleast they had sort of the right idea going into a practical test

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thats rough though

rough sapphire
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it was fine. they were looking to fill in a specific role and i was kinda desperate

stark prawn
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And now they're using your code in production.

tardy frigate
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^this

rough sapphire
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lol

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fucking whatever

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they would have to do so much more that was not documented in that piece of code

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but that's my literal only touch with real world lua

tardy frigate
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i would build it into a .elf or whatever so that they would know i can write the code, and they dont get to use the code themself unless they wanna RE the binary

rough sapphire
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okay i guess OSRM (Open Street Maps routing Machine - or something) lets you define the speed profiles for streets\vehicles in lua where you have to recompile them somehow into the graphs they use

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but hmm didn't some version of Civilization also support Lua?

tardy frigate
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no idea, i know that factorio and roblox use a lua front end for custom content

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thats about it that i know of

rough sapphire
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does lua have native datatypes

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that's something python doesn't have thinkmon

tardy frigate
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idk what you mean by that?

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the only data structure in lua is a table lmao, they're arrays dictionaries, even classes iirc

royal lakeBOT
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:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: applied mute to @warm quail until 2020-02-20 21:27 (9 minutes and 59 seconds) (reason: duplicates rule: sent 4 duplicated messages in 10s).

plucky ridge
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Really gdude

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Was the f reaction necessary?

clear plume
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Yes

sand goblet
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What's wrong with it?

clear plume
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We are paying respects

plucky ridge
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Just feels immature I guess

rough sapphire
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i want to make a web based irc
what is the best frameworks to use

sand goblet
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I mean it's hardly a serious thing to do, haha

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I figured it was better than sending a message with just F in it

clear plume
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I have a bad joke

rough sapphire
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go ahead

clear plume
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Hemlock doesn’t want us to hit f cuz he doesn’t want the string as an f string

sand goblet
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web-based IRC.. big project, that

rough sapphire
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yes

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its for my fellow alumni to speak

sand goblet
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Lots of moving parts too

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You can't use an off-the-shelf one?

stark prawn
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as opposed to the LAN based irc?

rough sapphire
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no

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it has to be web based

sand goblet
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I'm pretty sure they mean a webapp client

rough sapphire
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yes

sand goblet
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Why IRC? Riot.im has a great online Matrix client

stark prawn
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like kiwi etc

sand goblet
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or why not Discord for that matter

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oh yeah, I remember Kiwi

rough sapphire
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no

plucky ridge
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@clear plume But... I love f-strings...

rough sapphire
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i want to make my own

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whats the best web based client then @sand goblet @stark prawn

clear plume
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True

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It was a sucky pun

plucky ridge
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No I think I'm just too old to deal with memes and meme reactions and what not

tardy frigate
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never too old

sand goblet
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You're not that old

plucky ridge
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My knees disagree

sand goblet
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It's just not your cup of tea haha

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well you're a runner, aren't you

tardy frigate
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how old even are you klsjjs

plucky ridge
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Not that kind of runner

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30

sand goblet
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Yeah, but even so

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errands

tardy frigate
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pshhh are you mad

plucky ridge
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It's like

tardy frigate
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thats not old

plucky ridge
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90% driving

sand goblet
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oic

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okay

tardy frigate
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if 30 is old im closer to old than i am to young, and fuck that

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xDD

plucky ridge
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Old souled then

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I never got the bandwagon responses

clear plume
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@plucky ridge ok boomer

rough sapphire
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is discord using riot

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?

clear plume
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I think “Ela” hates me

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I pissed him off

jagged fog
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well don't 1v1 him out of the blue

tardy frigate
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40 is where it starts, id say.... meaning i have a year of being closer to young than old... fuck

plucky ridge
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Don't tell my wife that

clear plume
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How old is she? If u don’t mind me asking

plucky ridge
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Currenly 40, but 41 next month

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@rough sapphire I don't believe it is. I'm fairly certain it's their own creation

tardy frigate
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wowie 11y is a lot

plucky ridge
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Doesn't feel like a lot to us. And we really only got together 3 or 4 years ago so it was never that like

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Weird teen dating a 20 something thing

clear plume
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Teen at 20

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Umm sir

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That’s a young adult

plucky ridge
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No no

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Read again

tardy frigate
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yea, i mean... your 11y older than me, im 19. 19 w 30 is scary

plucky ridge
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Sure but as you get older that gap starts to matter less

tardy frigate
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also, something doesnt add up....

clear plume
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Honestly ima piss ela off

tardy frigate
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oh wait nvm

clear plume
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Watch

jagged fog
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@clear plume don't

plucky ridge
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What, someone enjoying my company enough to want to marry me?

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I get it

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I tell her that all the time

clear plume
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Y

tardy frigate
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jesus christ, no, dont do yself like that jesus

clear plume
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He pissed me off

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Like

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He’s correcting my grammar on my phone

plucky ridge
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Dude, okay

sand goblet
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oh man, yeah, I remember being 14 and dating a 16-year-old, and goddamn were people upset about that

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as you get older the difference just matters less

plucky ridge
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Chili, let me put this in perspective for you

tardy frigate
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@sand goblet me but other way around, ppl were like going mental

plucky ridge
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You don't go to someone else's home or place of work and start shit. You will be thrown out

clear plume
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Hmmm

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Look I was aready pissed

plucky ridge
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Then take a step back

clear plume
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It’s like

plucky ridge
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Be the bigger man

clear plume
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Fine

sand goblet
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having read the context, I don't think ELA was criticising your phone typing

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it's just important to be specific when you're helping someone

plucky ridge
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Seriously, as I'm trying to defuse the situation

clear plume
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@sand goblet that’s how I understood it

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So I’m sry if there is a mid understanding

plucky ridge
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It's easy to get heated on the net. But don't let it control you.

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Plenty of times I've had to walk away from the computer from here for a bit

clear plume
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I have been stuck on one piece of code for 3 days and someone else told me to give up irl

plucky ridge
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What, here?

tardy frigate
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a phone isn't an excuse for bad grammar tbf, i think its kinda dumb to let that get you annoyed in any case. but then i dont know the situation

clear plume
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Kinda

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I posted the problem here

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And he came to me irl

tardy frigate
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@clear plume dont ever give up on anything, screw the haters

solid pollen
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Tbh, I think my grammar is actually better on phone because of the spellchecker haha

plucky ridge
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If that person went out of their way to tell you to give up, then they're a dick

sand goblet
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unless you're chasing someone around and slowly killing them with a spoon

tardy frigate
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@solid pollen incorrect xDD

sand goblet
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you should probably give up on that particular thing

clear plume
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I suppose that’s true

tardy frigate
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@sand goblet do you always feel the need to be so pedantic?

sand goblet
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No, it's a reference to a meme

plucky ridge
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Yes

tardy frigate
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lmao okay

solid pollen
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Oh, the famous spoon killer haha

sand goblet
plucky ridge
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Aaaaand there in lies the problem with memes and inside jokes

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"No, I swear it's funny"

solid pollen
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I finally got a reference, woooo

sand goblet
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I mean the concept is just absurdist humour

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even if you don't know the meme

solid pollen
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Meme hype baby

sand goblet
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But you're right, it isn't for everyone

plucky ridge
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I'm kind of with Zoe on this, it felt pedantic

tardy frigate
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ah ye see theres your problem, i was 7 when that came out xD

plucky ridge
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HA

sand goblet
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rumbled

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Here's a question, hem

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do you find south park funny?

solid pollen
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_Hey google, what on earth does pedantic mean? _ EDIT : Thanks Google

sand goblet
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dw, not a loaded question, I've heard about the controversy

plucky ridge
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Depends on the episode

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It's kind of hit and miss for me

sand goblet
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well, okay, yeah, exactly

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south park is basically entirely absurdist humour

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and it's definitely not for everyone

plucky ridge
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I'm not really talking about whether absurdist humor works or not, I'm more bothered by something being made light of when I'm trying to defuse a situation

tardy frigate
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well, i appreciate the humor, like for example the recent stuff w/ trans athletes, i'm trans myself, but i don't blame southpark for that, they literally make fun of /EVERYONE/

plucky ridge
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In spades

sand goblet
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Like most south park episodes, there is a little grounding in recentish events, but yeah, they really do

tardy frigate
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to be honest i'd be more offended if i were part of a group that southpark /hasn't/ made fun of

sand goblet
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I think the episode was a reference to Fallon Fox, which people have been talking about over the last 5ish years or so

solid pollen
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I don't even what to know how many jokes have been made on Frenchies haha

tardy frigate
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in any case, @clear plume you wanna link me the message if youre still having trouble w/ that code

sand goblet
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(Fallon Fox is the first openly transgender athlete in MMA history, and she apparently crushed the skull of another female opponent, but I haven't really looked into it very deeply)

tardy frigate
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oh no, that wasn't what i was talking abt, it was like a recent episode to do with the hormone-levels thing

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iirc, but i havent acc seen it

sand goblet
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Ah okay, it was a different thing then

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Yeah I haven't seen it either

plucky ridge
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Okay, here's a question

solid pollen
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_I don't know a lot about MMA, but you can't crush your opponent skull, can you? _

sand goblet
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I mean, I would hope not, haha

tardy frigate
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_I don't know a lot about MMA, but you can't crush your opponent skull, can you? _
@solid pollen no i dont think so xDD

solid pollen
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Haha

plucky ridge
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Is there a point in the transition where someone who is essentially fully sexually changed doesn't think of themselves or refer to themselves as trans?

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Or is it just one of those labels that always gets carried? If not in their life at least in their thoughts?

sand goblet
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Not from what I've seen, but I have seen people get to the point where you literally couldn't tell the difference unless they took their pants off

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At that point, why tell people you're trans?

solid pollen
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_You have four hours. _

tardy frigate
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Not from what I've seen, but I have seen people get to the point where you literally couldn't tell the difference unless they took their pants off
@sand goblet *even if you take their pants off in a lot of cases

sand goblet
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Right, yeah, some people do have that surgery as well

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I forgot it was a thing for a minute

tardy frigate
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in any case, i would say no. its just a thing

solid pollen
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Look at their DNA?

sand goblet
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I mean, however you feel, it is an important medical point

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It's going to affect your medical treatments

plucky ridge
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Not really the point I'm trying to understand. Zoe gets where I"m coming from on it

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The aspect of the mental stigma that you've carried up until that point in your life

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I feel like something like that can't really do away

sand goblet
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Honestly, when I talk to trans people, most of them are pretty proud of how far they've come (and rightly so)

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so they do talk about it

plucky ridge
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And I don't mean this in a discouraging way at all

sand goblet
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but I expect there are plenty that have transitioned fully that don't

tardy frigate
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like, im not currently out IRL, so im not transitioned or anything, but even if i were, thered be situations where doctors for example would need to know that like, i have XY, rather than XX.

plus theres this whole thing about like, thats just how it is, like you can't just forget about it

plucky ridge
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I just like understanding the thoughts

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Sure

tardy frigate
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that wouldnt be a very smart thing to do

plucky ridge
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Yeah I suppose so

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Sorry, was a dumb question but it's been rattling around my head for a while

tardy frigate
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no no, its perfectly fine

sand goblet
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No stupid questions, honestly

tardy frigate
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like, imo. the more people that understand, the better

plucky ridge
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Of course

tardy frigate
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and if that means people need to ask dumb questions then thats fine

plucky ridge
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I'm chock full of those

tardy frigate
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@plucky ridge i mean, same

sand goblet
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I have to say, as someone that identifies the way they were born, it was hard to get used to the people around me coming out as trans - some of them I'd known for literally years before

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so I had plenty of questions too

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But yknow, if you don't ask, you don't find out, and understanding is important

tardy frigate
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its all about willingness to learn, and accept

plucky ridge
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Sure, but I've also seen people take the questions as an attack or a means to demoralize or demean them

sand goblet
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Well, yeah, you'll get that as well

plucky ridge
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Always a gamble

sand goblet
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I think some people spend so much time explaining that they just go "well you know what, I'm done with that, I don't have to explain"

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if they have a lot of twitter followers that's probably the case, haha

plucky ridge
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Wasn't the case with the folks I'm thinking of. This was waiting to start a fight

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But it takes all kinds

sand goblet
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Ah, well yeah, every group has people like that

plucky ridge
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Nothing to be done about it

tardy frigate
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nah, like; you familliar with the concept of a 'Vocal Minority'? idk if thats like a common term, but thats what you're describing

Sure, but I've also seen people take the questions as an attack or a means to demoralize or demean them
@plucky ridge

rough sapphire
#

@sand goblet what about coming out as reverse trans

sand goblet
#

reverse trans?

plucky ridge
#

Oh absolutely

tardy frigate
#

@rough sapphire excuse me? xDD

rough sapphire
#

@sand goblet ie me

sand goblet
#

Oh, I see

plucky ridge
#

Like

sand goblet
#

I think

plucky ridge
#

It goes back in?

sand goblet
#

You mean they thought they were trans, and then realised they weren't?

plucky ridge
#

Or out

#

Or is it just shaken all about

rough sapphire
#

more like

#

hmmm

#

trans isn't the best word for this I suppose

tardy frigate
#

You mean they thought they were trans, and then realised they weren't?
@sand goblet i mean, ppl gotta figure out who they are themselves and if they make a mistake then thats all cool

plucky ridge
#

saturated?

sand goblet
#

I mean hey, I guess I knew you had something going on back then when you reacted the way you did to me making fun of you a couple weeks back

#

so I'm down for listening if you want to talk

rough sapphire
#

wat

#

lol no it's not like that

#

never mind

tardy frigate
#

trans isn't the best word for this I suppose
@rough sapphire try to explain?

rough sapphire
#

it's a long story

tardy frigate
#

like, a lack of gender?

rough sapphire
#

I mean, not really

plucky ridge
#

If you're uncomfortable you don't have to share it here

tardy frigate
#

^

plucky ridge
#

We've got your back

rough sapphire
#

🤔 it's not that it's majorly uncomfortable, it's just that I'm majorly embarrassed about it and don't know why I ever thought it was a good idea

plucky ridge
#

Because we all grow and have to come to grips with who or what we are? Everybody makes mistakes along the way.

sand goblet
#

Yeah, I was gonna say, that's pretty relatable haha

plucky ridge
#

For some it's a more extreme journey than others

#

But that doesn't make it wrong or uncommon

#

Just who we are as people

tardy frigate
#

@rough sapphire nothing is a dumb or bad idea when it comes to figuring out who you are as a person, you just gotta do what you gotta do, and if you think, 'well, actually, thats not me' then thats a-okay

#

#ot1-gender-counselling

plucky ridge
#

Yeah I don't even want to place that potential name in the pot

#

Could see that going over badly

sand goblet
#

haha

tardy frigate
#

hahaha yeah, best not

plucky ridge
#

Oh god, I just had a thought

#

What if someone on a server aliased @ everyone to be @yall

sand goblet
#

I've actually seen that

#

so glad we have role mention mutes now

#

haha

tardy frigate
#

that would be horrible

sand goblet
#

offtopic, but have either of you ever cleaned a comb?

#

I'm always impressed with how much crap they get full of but I can't think of a good way to do it

plucky ridge
#

Comb or brush

sand goblet
#

comb

plucky ridge
#

Uh

#

Never really had trouble with them

tardy frigate
#

take an identical comb and interlock them to pull it out

plucky ridge
#

Old toothbrush possibly?

#

If it's gunk rather than hair

tardy frigate
#

although its normally brushes that give you trrouble w/ that.

sand goblet
#

it's gunk, although not much of it

tardy frigate
#

ahhh

plucky ridge
#

Yeah, old toothbrush then

tardy frigate
#

ye

sand goblet
#

I just have a comb at my desk and I tend to fidget with it

#

so I notice it

#

haha

#

Yeah, good idea

plucky ridge
#

Thank you brain for your suggestion: "Bear mace"

sand goblet
#

Bear mace. hmmmm.

plucky ridge
#

Tingly scalp

sand goblet
#

isn't that like.. pepper spray?

plucky ridge
#

Yes

sand goblet
#

I think it is

#

haha

plucky ridge
#

Super concentrated pepper spray

sand goblet
#

tingly indeed

tardy frigate
#

Lmaoo wtaf

pine vector
#

i would like to voice my approval of @ya'll. 😄

clear plume
#

UwU

gentle moss
#

IT training sure is great

#

but i want to know where this wizard learned to write right to left so well

rough sapphire
#

maybe from Pakistani
they write right to left

#

wut

gentle moss
#

loads of languages are right to left

rough sapphire
#
Featured snippet from the web
Text direction
Arabic script is written horizontally and right-to-left in the main, but as with most RTL scripts, numbers and embedded LTR script text are written left-to-right (producing 'bidirectional' text). Urdu words are read RTL, starting on the right, but numbers and Latin text are read left-to-right.```
gentle moss
#

idk if knowing how to write one translates to writing english backwards

#

arabic, aramaic, hebrew, urdu, farsi

rough sapphire
#

most of them are nearly dead

gentle moss
#

wot

#

they're very much not :D

rough sapphire
#

except arabic , urdu i never saw other in use

gentle moss
#

farsi is quite widely spoken

rough sapphire
#

never saw it in use

gentle moss
#

i'm willing to bet more people speak / write farsi than people speak / write UK English

rough sapphire
#

farsi
110 million speakers

#

The de facto official language of the United Kingdom is English, which is spoken by approximately 59.8 million residents, or 98% of the population,

#

there are no enough people

gentle moss
#

while it's still English the written form is different to US English

#

i wonder how popular the spellings are around the world

rough sapphire
#

so
color
or
colour
thingy ?

gentle moss
#

yeah.

#

the use of s's over z's too

#

"standardise" vs "standardize"

oak tangle
#

stand-arise

gentle moss
#

ups

oak tangle
#

Going by what I see from people in The Netherlands, the US spelling is taking over.

gentle moss
#

"international" english

oak tangle
#

A lot of spell checkers default to US/English and their media has a huge influence on our culture

gentle moss
#

in code as well it's a bit of a merrrrh

#

since that's all americanised

oak tangle
#

It's more common to see British English in the writing of older academics here

#

Which is my main reference group

#

I know that British English used to be the main one taught at our high schools, but that's changed over the past two decades or so

stark prawn
#

Everyone I know that has published in British English only did so because the editor wants them to.

gentle moss
#

at some point UK english may disappear

#

there'll just be a few old farts spelling shit wrong

stark prawn
#

At least you have your country back.

gentle moss
#

:(

oak tangle
#

In our scientific writing course, it did not matter as long as you were consistent

rough sapphire
#

this one tho

oak tangle
#

In our presenting course, that lecturer preferred an English pronunciation

rough sapphire
#

this one *

stark prawn
#

From what I've heard it's just up to the journal you are publishing in.

rough sapphire
#

which flooor
2nd
what do you mean 2nd

oak tangle
#

Sure, if we're talking about publications

gentle moss
#

yeah, ground floor

oak tangle
#

Begane grond.

stark prawn
#

Most of my early english exposure was british.

#

Because jagex is a british company.

gentle moss
#

it's on the ground

#

how can it be the first

#

buildings start at 0

rough sapphire
#

we were concured by UK so we use UK english more than US

oak tangle
#

It's just the age old array indexing issue

gentle moss
#

:D

oak tangle
#

Too bad going to -1 doesn't bring you to the top floor

gentle moss
#

basement overflow

stark prawn
#
flat = [floor]
flat[1]```
Can't do that
rough sapphire
#

ot1-basement-overflow

oak tangle
#

basement overflow

I don't like floods

gentle moss
#

imagine a flood in that floor listing environment

stark prawn
#

Come to Groningen, we are safer from floods here.

gentle moss
#

it comes in the basement and works its way down from the top floor

oak tangle
#

Nothing goes above Groningen, except for water

#

And seals

stark prawn
#

And denmark

oak tangle
#

I don't know; wouldn't you miss Denmark and end up in Norway if you go straight up North?

stark prawn
#

I miss Denmark no matter where I go.

#

Unless I go to Denmark ofcourse

gentle moss
#

it's small enough to overshoot

frosty berry
#

In france too, 1st floor is ”second floor” to americans.

sand goblet
#

Same here

oak tangle
#

Same here as well

gentle moss
#

the building i work in does not adhere to the british method

#

:(

stark prawn
#

I've seen buildings mixing up here lately.

oak tangle
#

American students are always confused

sand goblet
#

ELEVEN

oak tangle
#

It's nice to see

frosty berry
#

So it's not that uncommon.

gentle moss
#

the lift is in american

#

so if you want the 3rd floor you have to push 4

#

:|

oak tangle
#

Surely you mean elevator bisk

#

Since it's in American

solid pollen
#

The never reachable 11th floor

stark prawn
#

Maximum capacity, measured in people.

gentle moss
#

with pictures

stark prawn
#

Always something like 13 people max, and you'd only fit that many if you all lay down flat stacked up on eachother.

gentle moss
#

we tripped the weight sensor on the lift when we bulk ordered in some UPS's

#

got greedy

#

had to get an engineer out to fiddle with it

stark prawn
#

To get it back to working condition or to bypass the sensor? 😛

gentle moss
#

working condition

#

it's weird because we got the UPS's in and it went up 1 floor then freaked out and made us leave

#

then just wouldn't open anymore

stark prawn
#

Wouldn't open?

#

Thats odd.

gentle moss
#

yeah. it was quite unhappy.

#

but i guess that's what you get for trying to put ~700kg of UPS's in a lift

stark prawn
#

As someone with a side job in moving stuff, not closing is my usual problem.

sand goblet
#

Yeah, that'd do it

frosty berry
#

”but the spec said”

stark prawn
#

Sometimes the sensors are way back.

gentle moss
#

its weight limit is 750kg

#

so we thought it'd be fine

#

either that or my fag packet maths was off

sand goblet
#

Or you weigh over 50kg

#

Dun dun dun

gentle moss
#

¬_¬

stark prawn
#

50 kg is nothing.

gentle moss
#

i used to weigh around that before i got a desk job and a distaste for exercise

wheat lynx
#

I used to weigh around that before I was born

agile jolt
#

I was born with 100 kga

#

And still at that

rough sapphire
#

I am 45 kg

#

I am nothing

stark prawn
#

I guess being dutch everyone is a bit taller so a bit heavier

oak tangle
#

And we eat a lot

#

I think 50% of our population is in the "overweight" category and 15% in the obese category.

undone berry
#

I think that's better than the UK or US

gentle moss
#

yeah

#

25% - 30% in the UK

#

perhaps the dutch cheat their statistics by being taller

#

lanky bastards

oak tangle
#

Yes, we eat a lot of pindakaas when we're young

#

Makes us tall and strong

#

And overweight

gentle moss
#

:D

#

i was told to drink milk to get strong bones

#

and eat my broccoli to be strong

#

doesn't really help when the broccoli is smothered in fatty gravy though i imagine

stark prawn
#

No, pindakaas makes us into sporting professionals.

oak tangle
#

That's what the tv ads tell us at least

gentle moss
#

do they specifically use ice skating and cycling as examples?

oak tangle
#

Well, the classic one used swimming

gentle moss
#

surely you're too long for swimming

#

or does being longer give you some kind of leverage?

oak tangle
#

Nah, but we had some good swimmers a while ago

stark prawn
#

Last one was woman's football iirc.

oak tangle
#

I don't think I've seen that one

#

The kid in the ad is supposed to be a young Pieter van den Hoogenband, which was Dutch olympic swimmer back in the day

sand goblet
#

He might be long, bisk, but I don't think he's an orange

gentle moss
#

he's dutch

#

ofc he's orange

sand goblet
#

Hahaha

#

Right, I forgot

#

Why the heck are the Dutch called oranges though?

#

All I remember is reading it in 1066 And All That

gentle moss
#

colour of the royal family

sand goblet
#

What, like, clothing?

gentle moss
#

the coat of arms i guess

sand goblet
#

Oh right

gentle moss
#

nope, that's some yellow lions

oak tangle
gentle moss
#

William of Orange....

#

huh.

frosty berry
#

Orange is a french city, indeed.

summer vector
#

why cpp's syntax is so good

frosty berry
#

Said nobody ever

solid pollen
#

Orange is also an ISP

#

Orange is kind of everywhere actually lemon_unamused

summer vector
#

@frosty berry Why? 😂

#

I find it very good, idk

solid pollen
autumn herald
#

why don't you use Dailymotion smh

#

fake french smh

frosty berry
#

@summer vector it's too complex, tries to do everything, in every way possible.

summer vector
#

Yeah, thats..

#

I can relate

solid pollen
#

@autumn herald because............ no? Haha

autumn herald
#

but they have a superior player!

solid pollen
#

What is a player without content?

autumn herald
#

ahah

#

i love how you find all the old memes on there

rough sapphire
#

@solid pollen kids vids can't be played in background

solid pollen
#

I don't actually have premium, that's the main issue

summer vector
#

Its amazing

jagged fog
#

5h, part 1 Sweat

#

As excepted

summer vector
#

Yeah

lime gazelle
#

I need to rewatch it

#

Also, 6 cases of Corona Virus here in my region

#

Was one this morning, it's 6 now.

solid pollen
#

Where?

#

Oh Italy right

jagged fog
#

that's close

lime gazelle
#

Yes

#

out of those 6 5 are in urgent care

summer vector
#

I feel bad

solid pollen
#

That's way too close

sand goblet
rough sapphire
#

🍞

lime gazelle
#

Yall like bananas?

sand goblet
#

@zenith ermine might be worth moving here, my dude

#

that channel is pretty busy right now

zenith ermine
#

ok hi

#

netflix is a no go

sand goblet
#

it's not available in all regions

gentle moss
#

amazon.

#

it's on amazon.

#

i believe.

zenith ermine
#

thanks

#

nice nick

sand goblet
#

Good choice

zenith ermine
#

is it a good show

gentle moss
#

Cromwell did get a bit slappy

#

Mr. Robot is pretty good, yeah

sand goblet
#

slappa da cromwell

zenith ermine
#

i need amazon prime

gentle moss
#

yeah, i think so

zenith ermine
#

is there a way to change my newflix region

#

how does it work

sand goblet
#

It's location-based

tame terrace
#

you'd have to move, I guess.

gentle moss
#

that'd be against the ToS

sand goblet
#

yup

gentle moss
#

you're region locked for a reason

tame terrace
#

it's not against the ToS to move

gentle moss
#

oh no, i meant changing it

tame terrace
#

netflexit

sand goblet
#

haha

zenith ermine
#

vpn

gentle moss
#

that would be against the ToS

sand goblet
#

VPNs do break their ToS

zenith ermine
#

nice

plucky ridge
#

@gentle moss I need your help. This is the most important thing I have ever and will ever ask you

gentle moss
#

and you may get banned for it

zenith ermine
#

i follow rules

plucky ridge
#

Green apple or cranberry

rough sapphire
#

then why people advertise VPN for netflix

#

like yt sponsors

sand goblet
#

cranberry is too dry for me

gentle moss
#

green apple.

plucky ridge
#

Cheers.

gentle moss
#

cranberry is for old women who need to wee a bunch

rough sapphire
#

cranberry is my fav. <3

plucky ridge
#

You have picked my red bull

tame terrace
#

most VPNs won't work anyway, Netflix have gone on the warpath to prevent you from being able to VPN around location locks.

sand goblet
#

yup, that's true

gentle moss
#

plus if you use any major VPN supplier you'll just stick out like a sore thumb

#

since the IP's are registered to organisations

zenith ermine
#

in my opinion they dont give a shit

tame terrace
#

netflix?

plucky ridge
#

That's

sand goblet
#

it's pretty well known that netflix goes to great lengths to stop you doing that

zenith ermine
#

i dont see the reason why would they care

gentle moss
#

their actions show they actually care a lot about it

plucky ridge
#

Because of licenses

gentle moss
#

because they have strict licensing agreements with publishers

sand goblet
#

yeah it's a licensing issue

#

and a legal requirement because of that

tame terrace
#

I don't think netflix themselves really give a shit - but their content providers absolutely give many shits, and have obviously pressured netflix to be more vigilant

zenith ermine
#

then im moving from eu to america

plucky ridge
#

If licenses are voided, the publishers pull their distribution rights, we don't have shows

tame terrace
#

if it was up to netflix, they'd probably open all content to every region

#

that would be good for business

plucky ridge
#

^^

gentle moss
#

that'd be sweet

tame terrace
#

but it isn't up to them, so

sand goblet
#

yup

plucky ridge
#

Yet

sand goblet
#

also, just using a VPN if you're in the EU doesn't work anyway

gentle moss
#

i do like the fact that loads of korean / SEA shows have permissive licenses

plucky ridge
#

Well in fairness

sand goblet
#

EU citizens have a legal right to view their EU-licensed content from other countries

plucky ridge
#

They don't care what content of theirs goes out

sand goblet
#

you'd have to actually go through the process to change your billing address

plucky ridge
#

It's what gets in that's the problem

#

Huh, didn't think of that g

sand goblet
#

we have some interesting rights over here

#

haha

plucky ridge
#

Well no I just mean checking via the billing address

zenith ermine
#

greetings from canada

sand goblet
#

Oh, well yeah

plucky ridge
#

For some reason that didn't even occur to me

#

But its so obvious

sand goblet
#

I haven't actually tried it, but if I was gonna do that I wouldn't do it with netflix

#

because of stuff like that

plucky ridge
#

Sure sure

gentle moss
#

one of our customers just rebooted her laptop

#

all of a sudden whole office 2013 install broken

#

can't repair it either

#

smh @ microsoft

solid pollen
#

@modern island only one nekit you said?

modern island
solid pollen
#

Haha

modern island
#

I'll git push --force your origin CattoHyper

zenith ermine
#

do you guys know what region is mr robot “allowed”

modern island
#

Don't do this

#

@solid pollen

#

ok no swearing

solid pollen
#

Saw it haha

modern island
solid pollen
#

That's fine :D

modern island
#

I am making some quality programming insults

#

I'll deadlock you forever sounds like a nice one

solid pollen
#

You little stack overflow

#

Hmm yeah sounds nice haha

gentle moss
#

ur mom must've thrown a compile error when making you

modern island
solid pollen
#

Ur face doesn't even pass linting

modern island
#

I wonder when GC will finally collect you because you are not needed anywhere ohh a deep one

#

Ur face doesn't even pass linting
haha

plucky ridge
#

Okay

#

That one was good

modern island
#

Which one?

#
fn main() {
    let me = you;
}``` hey what? you just got _owned_ @solid pollen
plucky ridge
#

Akarys

modern island
#

rust joke

#

WAIT WHY BISK

#

Lol

plucky ridge
#

Hey, did you import pygame? Because you're about to get_rect()

modern island
#

hehe

plucky ridge
#

I lost it the first time I read that in the docs

#

Just giggling like a madman

modern island
#

haha

solid pollen
#

Haha

#

Too bad nekit, my firewall rejected your request

modern island
#

how dare your firewall

#

let me slowloris your server's ass

#

😉

gentle moss
#

man, you're like http

#

sessions always timing out after 45 seconds

modern island
#

haha

#

okay I am looking for some more ideas

solid pollen
#

I'm gonna DDoS your.. Okay, I'm not gonna finish that sentence

modern island
stark prawn
#

Firing' my ion cannons.

gentle moss
#

monzy is probably a good place to look for nerd disses

plucky ridge
#

Oh for fu- so THAT'S where I put the building blueprints

#

God damn it

modern island
plucky ridge
#

We had someone come in who was doing some phone wiring work and that would have helped

modern island
#

Okay your code is good and all — how about PEP8?

gentle moss
#

You’re outside your scope, son, close them curly brackets
Cause I drop punk-ass bitches like a modem drops packets

modern island
#

haha

#

I like the scope one

plucky ridge
#

Palms are sweaty, code like spaghetti

modern island
stark prawn
#

Not a nice thing to say about your pals.

plucky ridge
#

I am cursed with what I call "stupid fingers"

modern island
#

Hahaha

plucky ridge
#

Little bastards can't keep up with my thoughts

#

No

#

Okay, this is either going to be amazing or terrible

stark prawn
#

The caffeine in your veins is making you type too fast.

modern island
#

You are like C++ compiler — extremely verbose, always saying too much and never to the point

solid pollen
#

The weeknd also did a song called heartless

#

The album is going to be out March 20th if anybody here cares

#

I guess not, but I'm hyped anyway

stark prawn
#

The weekend did a kingdom hearts song?

plucky ridge
#

Well if nothing else, hearing them say "Hey yo" is cracking me up

sand goblet
#

badum tsh

modern island
#

no_care = bool(0 ^ 1)

rough sapphire
#

you speak so much bullshit so quickly that even my server can't handle that much

modern island
#

hahaha

#

that one is neat

plucky ridge
#

MY CONDA DON'T WANT NONE UNLESS YOU GO- okay that's enough of that

stark prawn
#

Your tought are so fast we misclassified it as a slow loris attack.

gentle moss
#

the best thing kanye west did was have "stronger" covered by 30 seconds to mars

solid pollen
#

Code 422, stop saying too much bullshit

plucky ridge
#

Wait wait,

#

There's a specific HTTP error I need to find

gentle moss
#

teapot?

solid pollen
#

Maybe not 422 actually

plucky ridge
#

Yes

#

Exactly that one

stark prawn
#

417?

gentle moss
#

418

stark prawn
#

oh

solid pollen
#

418?

modern island
#

^

#

418

plucky ridge
#

So amazing

modern island
#

You are a 418

plucky ridge
#

"Hey should we save this one just incase we need it later?" "Nope"

gentle moss
#

:D

modern island
#

haha

gentle moss
#

i mean there are 100 per category

#

so it's fine

plucky ridge
#

True

rough sapphire
#

.bm 680432621066780709 bullshit

modern island
#

Does discord have ability to pin 100 messages at once

#

what is bm? @rough sapphire

stark prawn
#

No

rough sapphire
#

bookmark

modern island
#

ahh

solid pollen
#

50 at most

stark prawn
#

It's only 50 pins

plucky ridge
#

Sends you a link to that message in your dm

rough sapphire
#

ahhh pass that PR so that other can bm it

plucky ridge
#

I'll look it over if I have time

#

I currently don't

rough sapphire
#

wait

#

i got a review

solid pollen
#

I know a PR that is waiting since October >.>

#

:D

rough sapphire
#

one time they want to pass the thing at other they wanna don't pass it

modern island
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You are like Google Chrome — stop eating my memory with your useless stuff!

rough sapphire
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ahh c'mon

plucky ridge
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The downside to us doing this in our spare time

modern island
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hey did the thread die

plucky ridge
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You remind me of our linter, 'cause you're always hanging out with flakes

modern island
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you can't thread.kill() so how CattoHyper

solid pollen
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I'm gonna sudo kill you

modern island
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aw, deep

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haha

gentle moss
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kill -9, end of your life time

stark prawn
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Do you say dash or minus?

solid pollen
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Lemme logging into my superuser account

gentle moss
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dash

solid pollen
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What is kill -9?

gentle moss
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no more CPU time

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the most aggressive form of kill

stark prawn
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-9 is kill

solid pollen
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How does that work?

plucky ridge
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Depends on the context

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Dash for that, hyphen if I'm spelling something out for someone, minus if I'm talking about maths

stark prawn
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Otherwise it will just send a signal to the program.

gentle moss
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-9 is SIGKILL

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but kill can call other SIGs to terminate a process

modern island
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wait kill -9 is fucking ass

gentle moss
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i use it way more than i should

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¬_¬

modern island
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lmao why

gentle moss
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too impatient

solid pollen
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But by default kill send SIGKILL, doesn't it ?

gentle moss
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no

stark prawn
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Proably something like sig int?

modern island
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hey your code is so good that I want to rm -rf /

gentle moss
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yeah, i think it's either SIGTERM or SIGINT

modern island
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SIGINT I guess

stark prawn
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htop defaults to sigterm if you press f9

solid pollen
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Aah didn't know that

gentle moss
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yeah, it's SIGTERM

solid pollen
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So SIGKILL is more violent than SIGTERM?

modern island
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yes

stark prawn
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SIGKILL just ends the process.

gentle moss
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no more cpu time

stark prawn
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SIGTERM asks the process to end itself.

solid pollen
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I'd have though the opposite

modern island
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haha

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SIGDIE ok

solid pollen
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SIGSUICIDE

stark prawn
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ctrl + c does a sig int I think.

solid pollen
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Dont' think so

modern island
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yeah because it is an interruption pithink

stark prawn
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Easy to catch in python.

gentle moss
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yeah

modern island
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except:

gentle moss
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ctrl + c is SIGINT

solid pollen
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Docker compose gracefully shutdown when you CTRL C

modern island
stark prawn
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except BaseException:```
modern island
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oh yes

gentle moss
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SIGINT doesn't have to be a dirty closure

stark prawn
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BaseException is more than just an empty exception

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SigInt is kindly asking a program to stop.

modern island
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I guess no

solid pollen
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And what is the difference between SIGINT and SIGTERM then?

modern island
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SIGTERM is asking program to stop

gentle moss
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SIGINT is a happy closure

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SIGTERM is a "terminate" signal

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but it can be caught

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SIGKILL is just "fuck you"

modern island
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can we catch SIGKILL lol

gentle moss
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no

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that's the point

modern island
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can we SIGKILL ourselves

stark prawn
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It's not send to the program

modern island
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yeah I know pithink

solid pollen
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Okay so you have

  • SIGINT "can you please stop"
  • SIGTERM "stop now"
  • SIGKILL "imma end you"
modern island
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okay can we pin this

gentle moss
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pretty much akarys

modern island
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basically imma end you tho

plucky ridge
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Which one specifically?

stark prawn
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There's also sigquit for ctrl + d

solid pollen
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Fair

modern island
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I meant that imma gonna end you sounds weird

plucky ridge
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Like if someone writes it out in a codeblock and has reasonable descriptions then yeah, I'll pin it

gentle moss
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it means you're taking the control out of the programs hands

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so "i'm going to kill you" is appropriate

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you're not asking, you're telling

plucky ridge
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Sure but if you make it a little less..... murdery

modern island
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haha

plucky ridge
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Forced Termination maybe?

gentle moss
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that sounds uhhh

solid pollen
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You're a murderer anyway hemlock

plucky ridge
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Yeah too clinical

gentle moss
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that sounds worse

modern island
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import github.NeKitDS.gd.py as repo
print(repo.stars)  # 16``` meanwhile I did this