Time to make a small music player with kivy
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
vestal briar
More music orientated then generalized vlc
And less adverts and more zoomed out design than "groove music player"
frosty berry
๐
vestal briar
Was thinking of using a cli-based approach but the rust library I was going to use is broken and anyway, kivy seems the best for this
Can you compile kivy with something like Nuitka?
frosty berry
i think some people did, i never tried myself though
i used pyinstaller for all my distribuable
vestal briar
Alright
sand goblet
It's always worth a try
vestal briar
Kivy seems to be the heaviest python dep i've ever installed
The download times are longer than compiling 200 rust crates on an old laptop
frosty berry
it has quite some compiled code
vestal briar
I see
Getting the windows experiance
Oh god it's Cython errors
And gstreamer?
Ah, I am using 3.8
frosty berry
oh it was not downloading but building, makes sense
vestal briar
Basically the equivalent of compiling 200 rust crates :)
fallen sparrow
yeah Kivy first build is pretty bad esp. on my somewhat old laptop
subsequent builds aren't too bad
(I've only tried building for Android)
solid pollen
A 3000โฌ/month DDoS protection, can I call that good ol' bullshit price?
fallen sparrow
maybe they'll send someone to personally accept/reject each request
solid pollen
Hahaha
sand goblet
what's wrong with that?
gusty oar
there was better movies . and parasite wasn't that original
for example 1917
was better
sand goblet
in your opinion
sand goblet
or maybe there was a good reason for it
although tbh I don't have any interest in the oscars
if I wanted to watch celebrities jerking each other off, I'd go to a porn site
frosty berry
Watched interstellar last night, more interesting that the oscars, and yes, i didn't see it before
autumn herald
i'm forced to used subtitle anytime mcconaghey or whatever it is spelled, appears on screen
frosty berry
I'll probably see parasites and 1917 in a few years, :) i heard they are good though
sand goblet
We should all watch the next oscars together
Drink a shot every time one of them virtue signals in a speech
frosty berry
It was a dubbed version on french tv
autumn herald
parasite is fine, but i feel it's getting more praised than it should compared to other recent Korean movies
dunno why
i don't really like the director that much
frosty berry
Success is random, that's why
autumn herald
i guess
frosty berry
Hulk was my slowest movie ever
solid pollen
Did you watched Ad Astra?
frosty berry
No
frosty berry
At first i though it looked interesting, but heard it pushed some make belief stuff i'm not interested into.
sand goblet
are you saying that the movie was too fictional for you?
frosty berry
No, i didn't watch it, it's about the meaning of the movie.
autumn herald
Wake up sheeples. Wookie's genocide is made up by the rebelion
frosty berry
Can't say much, didn't watch, but i was told it had a religious undertone, that's not my stuff, that's all
sand goblet
I mean, Assassin's Creed has a religious undertone
autumn herald
It took me reading Dune at 24 to understand a bit more about religion
sand goblet
but I'm sure you have/would enjoyed/enjoy that
autumn herald
So hyped for Villeneuve movie btw
gusty oar
do you listening spotify right now @sand goblet
gusty oar
ah you changed ๐
autumn herald
Not listening to the same song for 10h ?
sand goblet
okay, I'm back
also I'm at work so that's gonna happen haha
If you wanted to listen
on the release radar right now
not much I'm super interested in so far
solid pollen
Pokemon??
sand goblet
familyjules cover
oh, sharax is usually okay
wait, this is christmas music
ok, next
didn't expect this one
gusty oar
tame terrace
oak tangle
Maybe they're confusing it with 2001: A Space Odyssey
frosty berry
yeah, i didn't really find it slow
i mean it's not fast and furious i guess (didn't see any of them), but it's not slow.
autumn herald
you can't say it's not fast and furious without seeing one
sorry
that's the rule
solid pollen
I mean, compared to the trailer
autumn herald
i wanna binge watch them for the memes
solid pollen
The trailer shown a fast and furious in space
frosty berry
i don't watch trailers
autumn herald
i seen recently this space horror movie, made by this guy doing resident evil movies
frosty berry
they give too much of the movie, without being the movie
autumn herald
it starts super slow and super spooky
solid pollen
Yeah, I start to avoid them now
autumn herald
and then at the end of the film, he's like "i ran out of ideas, let's just throw some gore and monsters"
event horizon
ahahah he's gonna do a monster hunter movie
i didn't even play the game and i already feel insulted
he done a film named soldier where
it's in the blade runner universe
but also not
and : "Kurt Russell spoke only 104 words in the entire movie despite being in 85% of the scenes"
which must be amazing
solid pollen
Haha
autumn herald
he also broke his ankle and i've read somewhere it was on a prop lettuce
sand goblet
runescape's chat filter continues to mystify me
I said How're last night and it censored the re
haha
sand goblet
I guess it's kind of like the scunthorpe problem but I can't imagine what's actually offensive about.. re
hm, maybe
although I've seen that more used with the "triggered" meme
gentle moss
tbh i've never seen it used in that context
only in the context of rage
i think it's from like, a frog that makes the noise when it's really pissed off
sand goblet
I think when I first saw it, it was people making fun of people that were mad at other people that supported trump during the 2016 election
gentle moss
it was a pepe thing
sand goblet
I specifically remember shoe0nhead dressing up like a weird Trump monster making that sound
haha
Was it?
It seems that @radiant grove is correct
...it was used a lot by people frequenting /r9k/, a 4chan board which is famous for it's users lack of social skills, leading many to believe that most of the users there are autistic. Instead of disputing it they kinda embraced it.
plucky ridge
4chan has a way of bleeding into other groups
undone berry
reeeee has definitely spread beyond 4chan and is just used in memes everywhere
and its relatively harmless at this point
jagged fog
which is famous for it's users lack of social skills, leading many to believe that most of the users there are autistic 
plucky ridge
relatively harmless
I mean it's still an intentional insult towards folks with autism
Hard to call it harmless in any regard
sand goblet
I think he's saying that that's not how people actually use it these days
just how it originated
plucky ridge
That's the only way I've ever heard it/seen it
sand goblet
I've only seen it used to make fun of far-left social justice people, or people getting angry at nothing
undone berry
Its not used as an intentional insult towards autistic people
the main way I see it now
is with people using it to mock other people being angry
plucky ridge
Then I say just let it die
There are more creative ways to rile people up than that drivel
undone berry
I'm fine with that - but you can't really kill it at this point
gentle moss
some people use it when they themselves are angry though
undone berry
yeah, I was about to say
sand goblet
oh yeah, I've seen that too
undone berry
thats also very common
plucky ridge
-sighs- I hate this generation
rough sapphire
did someone called me m
plucky ridge
Which is also arguably distasteful
sand goblet
yup
gentle moss
surely "i wanna die" is more a shame thing
rough sapphire
it's on the same tier as people going "oh my god I wanna die lol"
I actually says that
gentle moss
when i get angry i just sdghskfghzdhf
rough sapphire
like venom ?
undone berry
I think "I want to die" is jsut used to express any negative emotion
frustration quite often
sand goblet
frustration, yeah
rough sapphire
frustation mostly
sand goblet
haha, yes
plucky ridge
Sure, but I'm of the school of thought that says the more you repeat something, the more it gets ingrained into how you actually think
plucky ridge
Yeah yeah
gentle moss
descarte
sand goblet
despacito
plucky ridge
Oh bisk
gentle moss
still don't know what that is and i'm fine with that g
plucky ridge
You might remember these
sand goblet
I still find it hilarious what justin bieber did
plucky ridge
Do you remember the "Boot to the head" sketches?
sand goblet
and I'm so glad people got mad about it
undone berry
What did he do?
rough sapphire
when everyone have a shiny role in the chat :-:
sand goblet
Well you know the song, Despacito?
undone berry
yaeh
sand goblet
He did a collab with the artist behind that and sang it live
gentle moss
i think so Hem
sand goblet
except he didn't know the spanish words so he was just singing "DESPACITO, bla-bla-bla-bla-bla"
plucky ridge
sand goblet
boot boot head
plucky ridge
Well listen to these and then they'll be all you can think of
gentle moss
i remember the original sketch hemlock
sand goblet
he showed up to a pete buttegieg rally
gentle moss
i didn't know of the memes
gentle moss
plucky ridge
I feel like the audio only version for the last will one is funnier
undone berry
I hadn't seen any of these before - but the video one is fantastic
and better than the audio only version
gentle moss
the audio is good, but i think it's a skit for a visual gag
plucky ridge
Sure, but I feel like it left out some of the better bits of it
undone berry
I just generally slightly dislike audio drama stuff
gusty oar
my best gif
rough sapphire
me and my sleep deprived monster
white moon
lmao
vestal briar
Is there an adjustable/sliding divider in kivy?
Nevermind, found it (https://kivy.org/doc/stable/api-kivy.uix.splitter.html) <-- Not suitable
I like that they knew it was ugly so they explicity show how to change it in the docs right at the top
dusty breach
@gusty oar idk why but that gives me some early 2000s playstation vibes
plucky ridge
@dusty breach Okami. That's what it makes me think of. Those painted outlines
dusty breach
@plucky ridge i was thinking parappa the rapper but that is a good one too
frosty berry
@vestal briar hm, i guess i need to extract something from an app
https://github.com/kivy/ncis-inspector/blob/master/ncis_inspector/widgets/splitterlayout.py try this module
rough sapphire
@frosty berry What would you use for dates/times/timezones in Python?
@glass wagon 
glass wagon
Checked some more comparisons of arrow vs pendulum out on different sites, this actually made me smile
frosty berry
datetime+pytz?
frosty berry
i never used arrow or pendulum, i'm not aware of any problem with datetime+pytz
jagged fog
I agree with that article
but then again I don't have a article that goes against Pendulum
this is a huge f up in my book
arrow.get('2015-06-31')
<Arrow [2015-06-01T00:00:00+00:00]>
should be a relatively easy fix unless their backend is messy
frosty berry
and the previous one too, not sure how it gets that result
>>> arrow.get('2016-1-17')
# <Arrow [2016-01-01T00:00:00+00:00]>
like wat
graceful basin
maybe it has YYYY-M-D or YYYY-MM-DD but not YYY-M-DD
frosty berry
if it can't parse, why not raise an error?
graceful basin
because it is supposed to be as loose as possible
frosty berry
if it guesses, that should be called arrow.guess not arrow.get
that sounds like a terrible idea
jagged fog
why would it be loose I don't want to get incorrect results , either get it correct or raise error
frosty berry
there are module to parse times in a loose way, it's good that they exist, but it certainly shouldn't be the default behavior
graceful basin
seems like it has been fixed ```py
In [51]: arrow.get('2016-1-17')
Out[51]: <Arrow [2016-01-17T00:00:00+00:00]>
In [52]: try: arrow.get('2016-6-31')
...: except Exception as e: print(e)
day is out of range for month
good
graceful basin
catching the exception as ipython has large stacktraces
frosty berry
what's wrong with datetime though? the api is nice enough, and it works fine
rough sapphire
It's not nearly as slick as pendulum. Pendulum is really easy to use.
sinful copper
the problem with loose parsing is that it should do something with all the information
like, for 06-31, I can see two acceptable results: either an error, or add 31 days anyway and get 7-1... 6-1 is just ignoring the day information and doing nothing with it
if 1-17 is being parsed as YYYY-M-D with only single digits, then it should be an error to have extra digits at the end that aren't parsed
frosty berry
(most of my usage of it has not been to parse dates, but to manipulate them, so i guess that can make a difference, but there are also nice libraries to just loosely parse time)
graceful basin
ParserError: Could not match input '2016-1-1756' to any of the following formats: YYYY-MM-DD, YYYY-M-DD, YYYY-M-D, YYYY/MM/DD, YYYY/M/DD, YYYY/M/D, YYYY.MM.DD, YYYY.M.DD, YYYY.M.D, YYYYMMDD, YYYY-DDDD, YYYYDDDD, YYYY-MM, YYYY/MM, YYYY.MM, YYYY
``` this is a nice errorYYYY-DDDD?
graceful basin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinal_date I would guess, but not sure why have 4 Ds
sinful copper
maybe one of them is a literal letter D?
i know iso does that for week numbers, not sure about days
jagged fog
I only know about YYYY-DDD trough iso 8601
graceful basin
actually, looks like a typo
ParserError: Could not match input '2016-0356' to any of the following formats: YYYY-MM-DD, YYYY-M-DD, YYYY-M-D, YYYY/MM/DD, YYYY/M/DD, YYYY/M/D, YYYY.MM.DD, YYYY.M.DD, YYYY.M.D, YYYYMMDD, YYYY-DDDD, YYYYDDDD, YYYY-MM, YYYY/MM, YYYY.MM, YYYY
In [60]: arrow.get('2016-356')
Out[60]: <Arrow [2016-12-21T00:00:00+00:00]>
ok, apparently it's internal notation for arrow
DDD means any number of digits representing the day of year, DDDD means exactly three digits
https://github.com/crsmithdev/arrow/blob/1cd7f94ef60e7718667fc0cce5ad5ed62db58b9a/arrow/parser.py
"DDDD": _THREE_DIGIT_RE,
"DDD": _ONE_OR_TWO_OR_THREE_DIGIT_RE,```
[and M and D allow two digits, so some of the formats above are redundant, but YYYY-M-D is fine to match 2016-12-1]
gusty oar
@dusty breach good old days
rough sapphire
I don't believe either
vestal briar
Thought connecting guitars to pc directly would have been harder
Worked first time by just plugging it into line in with 6.35 to 3.5 adapter and changing 1 setting in reaper
rough sapphire
@oak tangle typo, "doesn't matter because it app has it all"
vestal briar
Drivers have came a looong way
oak tangle
Ahhh, thanks @rough sapphire
quasi lance
l
stark prawn
frosty berry
yep, just watched it ๐ i really liked the conclusion
stark prawn
I like how he tries to pronounce dutch.
frosty berry
wait until i move here and butcher it way worse ๐
stark prawn
hehe
frosty berry
i'll take lessons, these poor teachers are going to suffer
stark prawn
Just pretend you are a student. You'll fit right in not knowing any dutch.
frosty berry
hm, 35yo student, yep that's going to work well
stark prawn
Why not? I've had older classmates.
I guess it may be a bit odd for a foreign student.
silk frost
Is there any legit way to get "free" Nitro? I've seen tons of scammy YouTube videos on how to get it, but I think they are trying to harvest data or stuff like that.
And then I look in the comment section and its spammed with bots that say good things about the video to make you think it's legit.
gentle sparrow
If there was a general way then discord would get less money
They wouldn't want to encourage that, and they probably have a lot of smart programmers who can ensure it
Everything that seems to good to be true almost invariably is
rough sapphire
@silk frost a friend of mine submitted a vulnerability report and got free Nitro from Discord for it
that's pretty legit
frosty berry
Probably a bargain for discord, considering the cost of security researchers
rough sapphire
totally
rough sapphire
shodan what the fuck
golden walrus
lmao
not long ago I was able to login in no-ip.com with a password from 2005
the thing is... I didn't remember the password. I had it in plain text, in a mail from about that year, sent by them
so they never forced to change them, it didn't ask me to do so when I logged in with it either
frosty berry
ouch
gentle moss
switching channels
@lime gazelle you'd be surprised how much pentesting is actually pretty basic
especially on embedded devices
at least that's what my mate tells me
more often than not you're testing against some pre-existing low hanging fruit rather than making a completely new / novel attack
lime gazelle
to me it sounds liek someone who has done the job for a while and he's used to it
but actually studying it it's very challenging
gentle moss
the most important part is probably gathering information about the thing you're attacking
and from there looking up a bunch of stuff
then deploying an already documented attack
lime gazelle
reverse engineering sounds cool also and I think that's a very big part of pentesting
rough sapphire
well, no
lime gazelle
๐ oof
rough sapphire
the attacks themselves aren't documented
that's.. sort of the point
the techiniques usually are, but not the attacks themselves
gentle moss
perhaps i should've used better language
lime gazelle
then how do you even learn it?
it sounds almost like a skill that's passed down generation after generation
gentle moss
how do you learn anything? :P
frosty berry
imagine being in the street and checking all the doors are actually closed, one after another, a lot of pentesting is just that ๐
gentle moss
reading, research, courses
rough sapphire
i've personally only given birth to around 3-4 actually novel attack techniques
frosty berry
nice
rough sapphire
er no
lime gazelle
๐ก
jokes aside, my question still stands.
How do you learn something as cryptic?
rough sapphire
just experience and lots of reading
lime gazelle
It's more of a broad question rather than hacking
cause I don't think I'd like hacking
reverse engineering and low level stuff sounds dope
undone berry
I don't know about XX specifically, but the way the vast majority of people learn difficult things is with a lot of time and a lot of effort
gentle moss
^
gentle moss
there's a wealth of information out there on "hacking" or exploitation of systems
i mean just by watching a shit load of DEFCON, Blackhat and CCC you can learn a bunch
lime gazelle
say I want to get into emulations, low level stuff (drivers and idk). How do you go about it?
gentle moss
probably start by learning what a driver is, how it works and how to write one?
i suspect you'd also need to know a bunch about low level operating system functions too
since drives work with the kernel, kernel dev might help?
undone berry
Probably starting with high level overviews and working your way downwards. Find a course on operating systems, then a course about some specific aspect of operating systems (kernels or some shit I dunno), and keep going to lower level more specific stuff
lime gazelle
that's confusing
I don't like it when there's no set path to do something
I get lost
undone berry
Go ask someone who's done it where to get started
they will probably give you a starting point
even if it seems a million miles from the end point
gentle moss
but tbh, quite often there are multiple routes to gain that knowledge
lime gazelle
I guess a good starting point would be finishing the chip8 I have lying around for a while now
and move on to gb/nes
sounds like a plan?
undone berry
Ask people who know about the thing you want to learn
lime gazelle
ok and what if you don't know what you want
something might seem cool, but do you want it?
that's a hard question
gentle moss
well, i spent 5 years working as a sound engineer before i realised i didn't want to do that
and 3 years of study on top
happens sometimes
doesn't mean that the knowledge and experience i gained was wasted
lime gazelle
no yeah, but I feel super bad when I start something and then I don't like it
heck I hace to finish the chip8 that I started in may!!
gentle moss
yeah nah, that can be part of life
lime gazelle
I didn't touch it at all because I was frustrated and I couldn't get past that
sorry for the stupid questions and rants btw! Thanks a bunch 
๐
gentle moss
that's okay.
sometimes we all start projects we get frustrated with
i still haven't finished my damn raspberry pi cube case
part of it is frustration from not knowing exactly what to do and another part is fear of fucking it up
sometimes it's just better to do something and fail
very rarely do things turn out exactly as you imagine them turning out
and being okay with that is a big step
lime gazelle
I guess I have to accept I'm pretty garbage
and I need to grow as a dev and as a person
just because I had it easy in HS doesn't mean I'm the new bill gates
undone berry
The experience of breezing through high school, then finding things after that difficult is pretty standard. You just need to work through it. Do things you enjoy, if theres nothing you enjoy, do things that you can bear and will earn you money
lime gazelle
I don't think I have any passions.
I picked up coding because I thought it was cool, but in HS I didn't like it that much. Repetitive and boring.
There's nothing that piques mi interest
gentle moss
all i can suggest on that front is to try more stuff
gusty oar
they say chinese is hardest language in the world . if you want to learn you need the sacrifice your 4-5 years for basics
is it true
frosty berry
my brother learned enough to go there and speak with people and read some of it, in 3 years i think, on the side from studying anthropology
frosty berry
the main thing is focus, i think, doing some every day, listening to things and reading stuff even if you don't understand most of it, just trying to get through and to persist
but it's definitely possible
and chinese is certainly good to have these days
gusty oar
hm well i don't have that much time but i will try
frosty berry
even 1h every day, for a year, can get you pretty far
wheat lynx
Knowing two languages already will help
gusty oar
that sound good
i have 1 hours actually
learning java takes so much time for me
understanding OOP basics etc.
frosty berry
https://ninchanese.com/ didn't try, but i know someone who worked on that, and said it was good and fun.
gusty oar
if you suggest one of language what would it be ? chinese , or french or german ?
frosty berry
by usefulness, certainly in that order, yes
if you don't have spanish, i'd squiz it between chinese and french
wheat lynx
if you speak English, french and german will be easier to learn than Chinese. It would also depend on how you think you might use them
undone berry
What languages do you speak now? English and?
frosty berry
french has articles too, not easy to learn, it's pretty arbitrary, german has declinations, like latin, that's apparently quite a lot to learn
chinese seem to have a simpler grammar, but of course lots of vocabulary to learn.
undone berry
Spanish and Portugese are two languages that seem more useful to me than Chinese
autumn herald
For South America ?
rough sapphire
chinese can be vastly more useful than either of those two, it just depends on what you're trying to do
undone berry
Of course what language is most useful depends on your specific goals. But I think the prospects for growth of the tech industry in southern/central America in the near future is vast compared to China.
undone berry
China is so far behind the global/Western norm in terms of cultural and societal stuff that interactions with China are almost always going to be marred by that
frosty berry
a significant chunk of africa is learning chinese quickly, it's plausible it'll be a second language in the most economicaly active countries there in a decade.
plausible, to me, not certain, of course
undone berry
English is a pretty standard global ELF
rough sapphire
I wonder if there is a reason why they are learning chinese in africa vs english
frosty berry
rough sapphire
oh interesting, did not know that
frosty berry
and, no offense, but a lot of them (chinese) don't speak english very well, so if you want to do business with them, speaking chinese is a big advantage.
undone berry
Yeah, I've heard that is a major issue
There are tonnes of Chinese students everywhere, and they generally seem to form social groups exclusively with other foreign students
frosty berry
considering the state of a lot of african countries, if learning chinese is what it takes to make business, people don't think twice
rough sapphire
and also to remove any ambiguity in communication... my sister did some kind of semi-large order for a company with alibaba, the place she was ordering from spoke pretty broken english. my sister and this company ended up getting shafted, and when she contacted the company they blamed her for not understanding what they were trying to communicate in their broken english.
undone berry
so even when studying abroad, they don't get fully to grips with the language
wheat lynx
Using incorrect articles will not usually impede communication but may sound a bit off
gusty oar
maybe when i forget article of word i can made up of "die" . because many words has die article
๐
lime gazelle
@gentle moss aye aye captain!!
wheat lynx
Or just mumble so they can't tell
lime gazelle
I'll finish the chip8 and see what I can do!
gusty oar
yeah its great idea thanks ! @wheat lynx
frosty berry
there are probably games where you have to guess the right article for a word, and if not, it should be easy to build one
gusty oar
hm yea we are programmers we should use that skills ๐
wheat lynx
There are a few times when you can tell, e.g. with genders and some other rules of thumb
frosty berry
duolingo does support german btw, and it's quite a nice app to learn a language
wheat lynx
It's good if you can get into a routine of using it, which can be hard
frosty berry
hm, and it has chinese too, didn't see that
wheat lynx
They have a ton of languages
frosty berry
they have reminders and stuff, right? to maintain the streak
frosty berry
yep, you can see the people waving at each others, easy
wheat lynx
Yeah, the reminders are helpful and the idea of keeping a streak, but in the end you have to have the motivation
frosty berry
if you set a reasonable target, 15-30mn, it should be hard to justify not doing it
but yeah in the end it's up to the person to do it, every, day ๐
gentle moss
oh lord
oscar winner tito waititi slammed apple's new keyboards
:D
โApple needs to fix those keyboards,โ he said. โThey are impossible to write on โ theyโve gotten worse. It makes me want to go back to PCs. Because PC keyboards, the bounce-back for your fingers is way better. Hands up who still uses a PC? You know what Iโm talking about. Itโs a way better keyboard. Those Apple keyboards are horrendous.โ
that's... that's a weird way to praise non-apple products?
rough sapphire
sounds like a man tired of apple
slim mirage
hands up who still uses a PC?
๐
gentle moss
as a writer he probably gets through like 12 macbooks per script
undone berry
My guess is if it was Taika Waititi speaking, he wasn't speaking to a room full of programmer nerds
frosty berry
that settles it, i guess my next work laptop will be a windows pc, if i can't have linux, better than a mac
(thankfuly i'll have a desktop for linux)
undone berry
But tbf, if you're job is literally writing all day, I'd definitely be looking to buy the best thing for typing
gentle moss
bring on the laptop with full depth buckling spring
undone berry
Bring on the thin+light + tenkeyless keyboard in a backpack together
rough sapphire
Id assume some kind of mechanical keyboard would work as well
cherry mx blue is very nice for typing
undone berry
Screw 15inch laptops, and 13inch laptops neveer have numpads anyway
gentle moss
tkless on a laptop is the only place it's acceptable
undone berry
If you're carrying about a keyboard specifically for use with a laptop, I think its acceptable there also
Or if you're like Neil Gaiman and writing books in hotel rooms - lugging about a nice keyboard thats as small as possible but still nice to type words on seems ok
undone berry
or a nice portable typewriter..
undone berry
Isaac Asimov used to write on some absolutely ancient one of those
up until he died
gentle moss
you can write, edit and print your screenplay in starbucks all at once
GRR Martin still writes on some anciet thing
undone berry
Thats a whole new level of hipster. Typewriter in starbucks had been done I guess, but I doubt word processor in Starbucks has been done
gentle moss
Wordstar
undone berry
There are some very dead forums
gentle moss
you have to email someone to get a copy
;D
he apparently runs DOS in an emulator now since his original PC died
undone berry
you have to literally email support@wordstar.org for it. I kinda want to do it
gentle moss
i wonder how much it costs
gentle moss
$35 for a single user license
undone berry
https://www.wordstar.org/index.php/download-buy/5-download-the-wordstar-command-emulator don't worry. There's a free trial version
frosty berry
at this point i assume i'll use vim til i die
undone berry
I'd suggest taking a break to sleep and eat
frosty berry
i'll probably have to nest 3 of 4 emulators to run the exact version i decided was the good one, in 4 decades
gentle moss
:D
gusty oar
i will try find solution to project euler first 20 problems with java (which i already solved with python)
for escaping comfort zone ๐
rough sapphire
(define (procedure x y z) (if (> x z)
(if (> z y) (* x z) (* x y))
(if (> x y) (* z x) (* z y))))``` The grandiose scheme languageI get RPN but it still breaks my brain
rough sapphire
that's just any rom before flashing gapps though
gusty oar
i just want to delete samsung , google default app shits .
gusty oar
form project euler
suprising but they keep track
of how many people solved problem
if you hover your mouse over that button you can see too
in website
gusty oar
yea at the top right
autumn herald
@rough sapphire seems like we can't trust Switzerland anymore
sand goblet
oh my god, balena is releasing an etcher device
reminds me of those CD copying towers
rough sapphire
but why
tame pier
this has been in the works for a while now
rough sapphire
wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy a fuck tonne of USB hubs? the throughput of this device needs to be fucking massive if it wants to impress me
plucky ridge
But industry isn't going to need it
tame pier
People who work with IoT or embedded devices at scale, schools, contractors, IT support/admins, etc.
plucky ridge
Also I feel like their claim of "ergonomic design" is moot since it's not something you're constantly having to hold or use
I guess but you really should only need to do that in a big way the first couple times
I could see it being useful for the mem cards but less so for the sticks
tame pier
Obviously you're not going to be using it constantly
tame pier
but for someone who has to do bulk distributions of media periodically this will be a lifesaver
sand goblet
it's neat that you can stick them together
tame pier
yeah
tame pier
niceee
plucky ridge
I'm always sketchy on daisy chain designs
There's a reason things like SCSI are less common
sand goblet
If the numbers are backed by real world performance, I wouldn't worry
gusty oar
๐ yeah its so true
plucky ridge
Still like the Pixel line
sand goblet
despite getting the top tier, my phone was still like 400 euro cheaper than theirs
and I much prefer it
rough sapphire
i gave my 6t to my gf
sand goblet
I super appreciate oneplus' policies
You want root? Go ahead
Unlock the bootloader, toggle is right here, no messing around
plucky ridge
You're a bootloader
sand goblet
Oh, you have root? Well there's an update, but we'll download a full OTA for you instead of a patch
And we won't force-reboot your phone after it's installed, so you can root it again before you reboot
plucky ridge
That's not uncommon, ever since they did the separate system partitions
sand goblet
That's good news
rough sapphire
I'm currently using an undisclosed vuln for root on my current Nokia as they don't allow unlocking the bootloader or any other shenanigans
sand goblet
LineageOS got your back
rough sapphire
it's a Chinese company now... it's just not the same, man
sand goblet
BB? yeah
sand goblet
I know RIM was merged into another company, but they've decided to release the BB trademark
rough sapphire
oh, wait, no
rough sapphire
they got sold to Microsoft for a while but apparently they're back on their own now?
and HMD, the current company, seems to be finnish
yaay
sand goblet
hot cingulars in your area
plucky ridge
Literally on fire singles in your area
sand goblet
haha
sand goblet
Were you running Oxygen?
autumn herald
i dunno? The word rings something so probably
i bought it for cheap from a friend because he broke front lens, and he bought himself a new one after
so i wasn't too mad about losing it
tried 2 days to revive it and bought a new phone
sand goblet
nods
Now that the mate 30 is out, I wonder if anyone's found a way to reflash the mate 20 pro
or the mate 10 pro, which I have in a drawer here
autumn herald
i don't like smartphone too much so downgrading was not a problem for me, i don't think i'll go back to One Plus
sand goblet
The OnePlus 7 pro has definitely been my favourite phone so far
I hear the 8 series will have wireless charging, but no pop up camera
autumn herald
pop up camera?
sand goblet
yup, the front camera pops out of the top of the phone when you use it
and slides back in after
autumn herald
it's vanity, but i only look at RAM and Selfie megapixel when shopping for a phone
sand goblet
automatically
autumn herald
ah nice
plucky ridge
@sand goblet So the 7T is more powerful than the 7 Pro? Regarding OnePlus' phones I mean
plucky ridge
Just from a naming point of view that seems incredibly silly
I instantly think the pro would be stronger
sand goblet
well there's a 7T Pro
sand goblet
lol
Yeah, I think 7T is more of a budget phone
also the 7T pro didn't make it to the US
sand goblet
Oh, weird
sand goblet
it basically just has more ram than the 7 pro
gusty oar
Crypto AG was secretly owned by the CIA and BND :d
sand goblet
man
home assistant is just so good
it's just so good.
I found a community addons "store" and have been working with a guy that wrote a component for mitsubishi air con systems, so now he's made it support air to water systems
very happy with this setup
rough sapphire
@gusty oar very interesting article. by logical extension, you can't help but wonder what classified partnerships exist today between the government and tech companies
gusty oar
yeah most tech companies certainly leaking information
its make us thinking about what government has and what doesn't
about us
tame pier
@sand goblet where do you host your HA server?
sand goblet
my home assistant server? It's on a raspberry pi 3B+ in my house
sand goblet
it runs hassos, which is now called.. something else I think
tame pier
"Weโve lately seen some funky tutorials on how to run Hass.io inside a container like Docker or LXC, which we DO NOT recommend, you will end up having issues."
so it's a bare-metal distro that uses docker for the services?
sand goblet
yup
everything runs in docker
you can't actually get access to the host system
although it is able to update itself of course
tame pier
nifty, might try setting that up this weekend
finally got Unifi fixed so my network configurability (and willingness to do anything with my network) is back in business
rough sapphire
@gusty oar @rough sapphire Using open source software/hardware defeats that
But good luck finding anything remotely close to RAM/CPU/etc that are open
( RISC exists, sure. But does support? )
@tame pier Ubiquiti in general is pretty great, outside of their telemetry curfluffle they had a bit ago. Their EdgeRouter line is good too.
gusty oar
yeah open source is best but not everything has open source alternative AFAIK
rough sapphire
@gusty oar It really boils down to threat models and what you're willing to sacrifice I think.
sand goblet
HA is fantastic software and it supports more things than you could probably think of
I see 1500 integrations on the site
tame pier
The centralized management interface and ability to SSH in and take a PCAP are really nice
sand goblet
including
sand goblet
list at https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/#all if you're curious
tame pier
tyvm
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire IIRC there is a fairly big open source project for a CPU
I know the fabrication facilities for this stuff are in the 9-10 figure range, but I'm assuming theres some places out there with services to make other people's chips
Alright, so let's say you have the CPUs ( RISC ) - Who's supporting them, and does your favorite ( or most used? ) programs run on them?
yep
It's kind of hard to get support for this stuff
Which is why we're stuck with AMD/Intel
hopefully the landscape changes in the future
I'm trying to find this awesome talk walking through some of the steps of CPU fabrication... this one part in particular he was talking about photolithography and how these clear/opaque sheets lay out the architecture for the given layer, and how its so small of a scale they have to account for photonic erosion. ie, photons slowly making the projections less accurate to the point where things have to be replaced
absolutely mind blowing
Good luck finding a bug in a CPU. It's been done, but it's rare
presumably when you have a large enough army of specialists with PhD's that becomes less of a problem
I'm talking more as a consumer versus a nation state
ah I misunderstood
Like if China, U.S., or some other country decided "Yeah, let's mess with this person." - what could you realistically do?
all you really have is to rely on whatever protections your home country has to defend you, on that scale
rough sapphire
The NSA has been proven to take control of packages shipped through FedEx/UPS/USPS and install backdoors onto them. You could design an amazing product, and be completely transparent, and still be compromised via shipping.
I know exactly what youre talking about, saw that in the last few months. Yeah... it complicates things
https://www.techpowerup.com/209925/nsa-hides-spying-backdoors-into-hard-drive-firmware is also a thing
yep thats exactly it
talk about an out of control government agency
People were talking about capabilities of the NSA far before Snowden in June 2013
the only stuff I really heard of was some of the abuses from the "Patriot" Act
ah kindof misread what you said... but still
Ah yes, the bill that "some how" keeps getting passed.
of course
gusty oar
hmm seems exciting
frosty berry
supply chain attacks are definitely a thing, and not always that complicated
i think some nato place was hacked because someone in a hurry bought an usb dongle from the shop down the place.
rough sapphire
perhaps the best bet is some kind of tamper measures on the products
I feel like defcon did a talk on this
How do you tamper detect a USB device?
sand goblet
rough sapphire
( The joke is that you can change the Vendor ID and the Product ID to whatever you want by changing it in firmware )
frosty berry
and of course, sometime the USA is at the other side of the stick, i remember the story of the FBI discovering some subcontractors of a subcontractor at Nth level had replaced their cisco hardware with a cheaper (and too cheap to be true) chinese knockoff, and they only discovered it because the hardware had some higher failure rate, and subtle differences that tipped them off.
if the hardware is sold cheaper than it should, someone is paying for the difference
rough sapphire
I mean, that's not really a USA-specific thing though. You pay for cheap work, you get cheap results.
maybe some standard gets implemented where you can check the hash of whatever code there is for a given piece of hardware.
@rough sapphire I wrote about just this, actually
rough sapphire
web script?
gusty oar
i mean technology of your site . php python etc.
rough sapphire
Nope. It's all static CSS/Images/JavaScript.
just read it. definitely seems like a good way to cover one major hole in this regard
No backend that I had to implement. You can thank Netlify for that.
doing some kind of unit tests on the hardware would be another nice thing. just like with python... a given input should result in a given output.
gusty oar
netlify just for static website
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire There's not much you can do for USB devices currently.
gusty oar
then where you get your domain ? godaddy ?
rough sapphire
NameCheap
USB is better than FireWire or Thunderbolt though,
hopefully someone smart is looking into the issue
gusty oar
ah i heard them they was offering domain for students
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_memory_access
namecheap is all I use, highly recommend them @gusty oar
FireWire ( and I'm pretty sure Thunderbolt, lemme double-check on that ) have DMA
sand goblet
I use a combination of namecheap, iwantmyname, and cloudflare
sand goblet
cloudflare being the cheapest
gusty oar
its very cheap
sand goblet
but you have to transfer a domain to cloudflare, you can't just register with cloudflare
rough sapphire
NameCheap provides WHOIS protection for free
sand goblet
as does cloudflare (and iwantmyname and OVH)
rough sapphire
I never heard of DMA before now, but my initial thoughts are "this seems like a really bad idea, security-wise"
@rough sapphire Welcome to many old protocols!
gusty oar
what is iwantmyname
rough sapphire
lol
rough sapphire
"Ha, we won't have to worry about that."
"What's this S E K U R I T Y thing people are talking about?"
sand goblet
https://snof.bike
gusty oar
so why you use namecheap and iwantmyname both
sand goblet
they have different domain extensions
rough sapphire
I guess it was a different mindset/philosophy back then
I mean, I think it's just not having any level of emphasis on it.
sand goblet
I transfer everything I can to cloudflare though, because they're the cheapest
(no markup on domains)
gusty oar
cloudflare for hosting ?
sand goblet
None of this is for hosting, just domains
rough sapphire
But then again, In the 90's, cryptography was considered munitions ( like bombs! ), so..
rough sapphire
gdude confirmed for AI
Speaking of
@sand goblet So I'm thinking of getting a Switch
gusty oar
ovh ?
rough sapphire
yep, I remember reading about the legal stuff with PGP a while back
sand goblet
I also host all my stuff with OVH, except for one set of services
@rough sapphire I like this thought
rough sapphire
Not for me, but the SO wants one
sand goblet
Alright
rough sapphire
So, I'm thinking of getting Sword and BoTW
Anything I'm missing out of this equation. Anything I should know about or gotchas
gusty oar
so you are you are switching domain of your website every year ?
sand goblet
no, snof
they're separate sites
@rough sapphire What do you have in mind?
the only real gotcha I can think of is the way they did saves
sand goblet
@rough sapphire Games can be installed to the SD card, but game saves will never touch an SD card
you can get nintendo switch online to back up your saves, but some games don't support it
rough sapphire
So, they're only stored to the device itself?
rough sapphire
I saw that, thinking of getting 128GB
rough sapphire
Would it be better to go digital or the game cards?
sand goblet
so I just buy a lot of game cards
gusty oar
what do you think digitalocean on hosting
rough sapphire
Is that a big/known issue?
@gusty oar They're good, as is Vultr who I use - https://vultr.com
Really boils down to who you prefer when it comes to hosting.
sand goblet
I'm not sure
but I don't want to get it fixed because I'll lose my saves
although the only big hit there is splatoon 2
gusty oar
hmm there are interesting domains. for example gdude.church
sand goblet
all the other games I have support cloud saving, or are finished so I don't care
rough sapphire
Is there a list of games that don't support cloud saving?
sand goblet
rough sapphire
Nice
sand goblet
note: sword and shield don't support it
rough sapphire
Not surprised
sand goblet
Some games don't, and the reason they don't is save scumming
gusty oar
switch is good but its hardwares is not enough for novadays
sand goblet
The hardware is perfectly fine.
gusty oar
nintendo should release new console
rough sapphire
@gusty oar How do you figure?
sand goblet
it's not a PS4, but how are they gonna fit the power of a PS4 into your pocket?
sand goblet
nobody plays nintendo consoles for the multiplatform games
rough sapphire
I mean, if I want to play a game with 4K graphics I'm getting a gaming computer.
sand goblet
that's just silly
rough sapphire
Consoles don't compare when it comes to that.
undone berry
No one is buying the Switch to play multiplatform AAA games
rough sapphire
But I'm not exactly playing Pokemon on a computer, so..
sand goblet
Yeah, no, people buy nintendo consoles for the exclusives
rough sapphire
speaking of computers, anyone see that $4k cpu from AMD?
sand goblet
breath of the wild, mario odyssey, splatoon 2, ring fit, ARMS, mario kart, smash bros, etc
rough sapphire
$120 for a gimmick isn't exactly a great buy in my opinion
sand goblet
it's โฌ80
rough sapphire
I mean, it could be $10, and it's still a gimmick.
rough sapphire
No idea, I never got into the Elder Scrolls series
sand goblet
I have no idea how they justified that price
rough sapphire
Plus, it's horrible to see it re-released after first coming out back in November 2011
undone berry
The justification seems pretty simple
sand goblet
it's not a great game anyway
rough sapphire
If anything, they should release a new version
undone berry
0 competition, fair sized audience
rough sapphire
theyre working on the new one now
sand goblet
the switch is pretty great for indie games by the way
rough sapphire
@undone berry I mean, Witcher 3 is pretty great competition...
sand goblet
the shantae games, shovel night, crypt of the necrodancer/cadence of hyrule
soon, vitamin connection
rough sapphire
The DLCs were great
undone berry
Is that on the Switch? And there are definitely people who want to play skyrim, but not W3
sand goblet
it's by the people behind the shantae games
rough sapphire
Eh, I didn't like Shantae
sand goblet
switch exclusive indie cooperative top down shooter puzzle thing
I loved the shantae games
gusty oar
actually positive side of switch is mobility
if you are traveling much
its good for buy
gusty oar
games are not cheap too
sand goblet
the switch pro controller currently costs.. โฌ70ish I think
well yeah but that's just nintendo games
a pair of joycons is around โฌ80
additionally, you need to use their charger, because they messed up a little when implementing the USB-C spec
and it won't charge properly on a third party charger not designed for it
that wasn't on purpose, it's just a bad implementation
older hardware has had issues reported as well
joycon drift, also people complaining that their switches were bending in the docks
those issues have been fixed as far as I can tell
multiplayer is a little weird as well, you need the switch app on your phone if you want to make private lobbies and such
and that's also how you do voice chat - with the app
but I mean, it's a nintendo console, they've always been weird and quirky
something most people don't know though, and it's a huge pro, is that non-chinese switches aren't region-locked, and neither is their online store
and you can have 7 user accounts on one switch
so if something isn't available on your online store but you can get it on, say, the european or japanese ones
just make an account for those countries
rough sapphire
multiplayer is a little weird as well, you need the switch app on your phone if you want to make private lobbies and such
and that's also how you do voice chat - with the app
Ha ha ha ha ha, what?
sand goblet
Yeah it's really weird
rough sapphire
So no multiplayer, gotcha.
sand goblet
No, it does have traditional multiplayer too
rough sapphire
That's just private stuff?
sand goblet
Yep
The app also does provide extra features for some games
like for splatoon, you can order gear through it using your ingame coins
and it shows the stage rotation and stuff
but, yes, if you want voice or text chat with other players in any capacity, you need the app
otherwise you're stuck with predefined callouts
but really nobody uses voice anyway, we didn't have it on the other consoles and nobody cares about it
what's discord for
gusty oar
A woman was on her deathbed. There was one drug that the doctors thought might save her. It was a form of radium that a druggist in the same town had recently discovered. The drug was expensive to make, but the druggist was charging ten times what the drug cost him to produce. He paid $200 for the radium and charged $2,000 for a small dose of the drug. The sick woman's husband, Heinz, went to everyone he knew to borrow the money, but he could only get together about $1,000 which is half of what it cost. He told the druggist that his wife was dying and asked him to sell it cheaper or let him pay later. But the druggist said: โNo, I discovered the drug and I'm going to make money from it.โ So Heinz got desperate and broke into the man's laboratory to steal the drug for his wife. Should Heinz have broken into the laboratory to steal the drug for his wife? Why or why not?
what would you say
sand goblet
You should play watch_dogs 2
Deals with that issue quite early on haha
I need to play that game again
frosty berry
i think i'm totally fine with the break in in such a clear case
the seller could do a decent profit and save the woman's life, and refused to do so, which doesn't give him any benefit, aside forcing future people to pay the full price, it's not, imho worth a human life.
the only counter balancing argument i see is that he has to make money to pay for research, not just produce the formula he has now, so he has to make a decent enough profit to justify that
and if he doesn't on this sale, it'll be harder to make more on the future sales, potentially endangering his future research, but i don't think that's a strong enough argument
rough sapphire
I can see the reasoning on both sides, but I'd have to err on the side of no, he shouldn't have broken into the lab, regardless of the situation.
It's an interesting setup though, considering it pits the family that can't afford something against the big bad.
undone berry
I find it impossible to have sympathy for someone who is refusing to give 1000$ credit