its just satisfactory
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
rough sapphire
autumn herald
As the primary solvent in spray paints, thinners, lacquers, and glues, toluene is inhaled for its capacity to cause euphoria.
autumn herald
it's used also to dilute ink
rough sapphire
sketch pens have a cotton that is soked in ink
autumn herald
but just pulling a leg on you, there is also plenty kids that litterally sniff glue
autumn herald
guy discover he's been high since middle school
rough sapphire
OOF
what is the defination of being high
i think @rough sapphire can describe it
why would you presume that
you're not wrong, I'm just curious how you got that impression
autumn herald
it's very dependant on the person/product i guess
rough sapphire
you mentioned
that once a guy asked you for some sort of drugs
I don't think this is the right server to be discussing topics of this manner tbh
yeah xD
autumn herald
o7
vestal briar
😉
rough sapphire
Hacking my switch part 2
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/582287381768437806/672578052768792576/JPEG_20200130_180502.jpg?width=385&height=685
also @rough sapphire How do I do the backup thing
rough sapphire
lmao
open agate
hey
i'm trying to learn python for the usaco
are there any resources that can help for that?
regarding learning python
tag me if you can help please ^
terse sluice
http://www.usaco.org/index.php?page=training @open agate
open agate
has anyone here done usaco
rough sapphire
Hacking my switch part 3
The success
I can actually test practice combos with DI now
rough sapphire
rough sapphire
your headphones need an update
it will take an hour
oh yeah if you cancel it you'll brick your headphones
autumn herald
Please update after confirming that these headphones
rough sapphire
they're good headphones other than whatever this bs is
the ANC is really good
probably not Linux but I wouldn't be surprised if it was
worn rampart
rooting your headphones seems like the next logical step after this sort of thing
worn rampart
it seems like if the pricepoint of arm chips gets low enough, people will throw linux or bsd on anything
i think bsd seems likelier from a legal standpoint
because how do you provide gpl notices on headphones?
also iirc sony seemed to like bsd for their other products
rough sapphire
play the license straight into your ears
worn rampart
imagine starting the headphones for the first time and hearing the TTS start to say I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as...
night crown
do you have the xm3s?
rough sapphire
hi
worn rampart
@rough sapphire lmk what you find if you do start inspecting the firmware
i have a friend who might be interested
also i'm curious just how much power modern fancy headphones pack
i'd expect midrdange or budget ones to sport general purpose chips tbh
a lot of DSP seems like it'd best be done with hardware specific for it
hoary turret
sand goblet
I see someone's using tilt controls voice control
rough sapphire
i used it a lot when i had my win 7 laptop
rough sapphire
never used this in my life its either silent or general or mute
mever set up the volume
rough sapphire
why in the fuck does the sonos need location
in what world do you need GPS satellites to connect to speakers in the same network
sand goblet
It doesn't
that's an android limitation
you have to give that permission to allow wifi scanning
because wifi scanning can be used to locate you
@rough sapphire
rough sapphire
why does it need to perform wifi scanning???
the speakers are already on my network
sand goblet
Probably because sonos products also support a SonosNet feature that you can enable
that allows people with the Sonos app to control a Sonos system without actually being on the network
(it's off by default, though)
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire tl;dr: It doesn't
lime gazelle
@frosty berry what happened with rust?
undone berry
Also very curious
lime gazelle
sorry for the ping
frosty berry
a very popular web api framework got some patches that could be seen as improving security, and the author refused them, saying things were fine, it escalated, and the author ended up just closing all the repos and moving to other stuff.
it's about the unsafe keyword that was used, apparently needlessly, but the fixes weren't to the taste of the author, which didn't consider the issue to be worth making things less elegant.
lime gazelle
yeah but assholes will be assholes with any programming language
I don't think that's rust's fault
unless I'm misunderstanding the controversy
frosty berry
hm, seems it's back though maybe they sorted it out https://github.com/actix/actix-web
lime gazelle
Well gotta finish watching a dude make a n64 emulator in rust
and then a virtual boy one
frosty berry
plucky ridge
Alright, here's a question for you folks: Toying around with doing Conway's Game of Life since I've never actually tried it. Just unsure how I should attempt to display it
frosty berry
@lime gazelle when i read about it i also got the impression that the language itself was moving quite fast, and didn't fear breaking things in versions, without much time to react, definitely not as mature as python.
plucky ridge
Any particular way that folks'd suggest?
plucky ridge
Just the display
frosty berry
i'd just update a texture like i did for this langton's ant https://gist.github.com/tshirtman/d14837a06d64b481e1a5dca71c46b1c6
undone berry
If just the display, then a2d grid of Kivy widgets with rectangles is very simple
And how I fit
Can also refresh a tkinter canvas and redraw the whole game every for loop
frosty berry
if you want a large world, using a widget for each item will be very slow, even using a rectangle for each will be a lot
plucky ridge
I'm thinking maybe 10x10 for a start
frosty berry
for that it's fine with widgets
plucky ridge
Just unsure how worth it it would be to do it in a GUI like that
Or how quick it would be to slap it into place
plucky ridge
Yeah that's what I was figuring. Just trying to find how to do it with overwriting the existing board
undone berry
You could construct a string, then just print it with flush =true
plucky ridge
Gotcha, okay. Wasn't sure how all that worked with the flush. bit
vast jay
hey, i hope you guys are having a good day, is there anychance someone is free for a few minutes?
solid pollen
I saw some cool conway's game example in #game-development lately
undone berry
Salt die has done it with np convolutions, but that's v complicated to me
plucky ridge
Yeah, I'm trying to avoid looking at other implementations for now until I play with it a smidge
undone berry
It's my go to thing if I want to learn a new language syntax
I currently have it half implemented in kotlin
plucky ridge
I should try it there as well, good point. Another day, though
vast jay
s'il vous plais a little bit of help haha
plucky ridge
@vast jay Have you asked your question in one of the help channels?
undone berry
I've done it in Golang, java, python, and Kotlin and js at this point. And every single implementation has been utterly rubbish in some way. I really should try and figure it out properly
frosty berry
@vast jay they shouldn't have, it's fine to say to them that the channel is not free
vast jay
yeah but i try not to be rude
rough sapphire
@worn rampart had a look. (un)fortunately not linux. Seems to be Qualcomm's firmware update format designed specifically for OTA updates over BLE
interestingly, the section of the binary where the OEM signature is supposed to be located is nulled out
which means the headphones probably accept any ol' payload
lime gazelle
@frosty berry I mean it was meant for Mozilla and Mozilla only at the beginningz they never really thought it would gain any traction
frosty berry
yeah, though if you build a language to solve a category of problems, and it goes far enough to build a 2015 html/css rendering engine, you can except it to be picked up by a couple people.
tawdry citrus
I’ve made a new burger: beef burger with bacon, cheese, onion rings and mac n cheese, but what should i call it?
vestal briar
🤔
tawdry citrus
Lmao
vestal briar
In an alternate universe where McDonalds was names McDaddy
tawdry citrus
I mean it’s not really appropriate for a resteraunt
pine vector
yea. best to save up some energy before tackling that sucker....
plucky ridge
Dude, my heart hurts just reading that burger description
It'd be like running a marathon
Except like
The opposite
undone berry
I don't know if I even eat 1800 calories on some days
plucky ridge
Okay yeah that was the dumbest thing I've ever said
pine vector
the one time i had it, i think i skipped meals until the next day's dinner.
rough sapphire
Meanwhile I'm over here averaging 3k a day 👀
rough sapphire
@plucky ridge no shame, what you said makes perfect sense
But yeah, that burger sounds like a heart attack
pine vector
hehe. i'm around 3K probably. 2500+ at least...
rough sapphire
It'd be great though
plucky ridge
@rough sapphire Okay good. I wasn't sure if my intent was clear at all. I just know that after eating something that fatty or calorie laden I just feel like I've been hit by a bus
Not as young as I used to be
pine vector
this one is the best one there, though (still equally heart attacky)
plucky ridge
"Hangover-killing". I'm pretty sure serving that to someone at least constitutes a manslaughter charge
pine vector
🤣
odd thorn
But the hangover's gone!
undone berry
I feel like that would induce a hangover without any drinking necessary
plucky ridge
"My arteries are hardening with joy!"
pine vector
carbohydrates are powerful...
plucky ridge
I swear to god, my gut has been making whale mating call noises for the past 2 hours
No reason why
odd thorn
It wants a whale mate. Obviously.
pine vector
concur.
lime gazelle
@frosty berry I mean true, but all I'm saying is, they aren't like.. equipped to deal with it properly? Idk how to say it
does that make sense?
frosty berry
oh probably
worn rampart
@rough sapphire interesting, ty, passed the info along
rough sapphire
@lime gazelle Definitely better than Chrom(e)ium, considering they're getting rid of the ability to use uBlock Origin and other adblockers soon.
odd thorn
I use Firefox for one reason: tasty, tasty tree tabs.
(I don't use adblockers on a device basis, since I don't really go out much, and I set up Pihole to eat most of the ads here.)
sand goblet
You really need both for full coverage
odd thorn
I'll cross that bridge when it becomes an issue.
sand goblet
I use a combination of ublock origin and umatrix, plus the universal bypass extension - and then Adguard instead of pi-hole
rough sapphire
Pi-Hole, AdAway, uBlock Origin
NoScript + HTTPS Everywhere on Firefox for that added "Ha ha, no"
AFWall+ is pretty great on Android too
odd thorn
I'm a bit odd in my browsing routine, so the pi-hole generally does the trick. Family members might have installed things on their end.
rough sapphire
I've blocked all .ru , .cn , and .top using Pi-Hole
Nothing of any quality from any of those
I've also got an Ubiquiti EdgeRouter X that redirects all port 53 attempts from anything but the Pis back to the Pis
Also block port 853 - because no you can't use any other DNS
Blocking use-application-dns.net as well, so Firefox doesn't use DoH
Unbound is setup on the Pis as well, so I'm not worried about upstream DNS 😄
rough sapphire
I feel like DoH wasn't planned well enough for the sysadmin side of things
sand goblet
Yeah, maybe not
rough sapphire
It's like the 5G of the DNS world
rough sapphire
Oh, sure. But 5G could have been a clean slate
But instead it still has the same issues as before
Also, on a separate note, Debian has this issue: https://github.com/mate-desktop/mate-panel/issues/436
Which is disappointing
sand goblet
Well, it's Debian, it's going to take some time to get fixes
sand goblet
roughly, yep
lime gazelle
@rough sapphire I thought they rolled that back?
lime gazelle
Like the outrage was so "big" (a better word?) that they had to take a step back
abstract tusk
is it necessory to use def for return..
round rose
You can only use return in a function iirc, so yeah, it's necessary
rough sapphire
@lime gazelle Talking about the Chrom(e)ium stuff? Not as far as I know.
lime gazelle
@Scott#1520 yes. Iirc people (rightly so) didn't like it
but I might remembering wrong
rough sapphire
I haven't seen anything that says they're reverting it. Do you have any sources that they're going back on this?
abstract tusk
i heard soon in 2025 virtual afterlife can be. Is it true?
rough sapphire
doubt it
lime gazelle
@rough sapphire I think I misunderstood it then! I remember someone saying that they took a step back but it seems that's not the case. As I understand it, they plan to make new API to support the adblockers? But also not really? I'm sorry 
it's all very confusing
rough sapphire
I don't think they have a new API planned. It's just "We're getting rid of this, because it's not needed."
It seems very rushed and a response to Google being an advertisement company.
( To any arguments to that, they bought Doubleclick )
Google reached an agreement today to acquire DoubleClick, the online advertising company, from two private equity firms for $3.1 billion in cash, the companies announced, an amount that was almost double the $1.65 billion in stock that Google paid for YouTube late last year.
@rough sapphire 👋
How are you doing?
sand goblet
I wonder if there's like a directory of programming servers
if not, there should be
:v
rough sapphire
Though, there'd need to be some kind of curation put in place. Otherwise it's just a directory of whatever server of the week
sand goblet
Well of course
But I do mean a directory rather than a public submission server list
rough sapphire
"Welcome to gdude's Python server. Users: 1"
sand goblet
haha
rough sapphire
sand goblet
It would be nice to just have a directory with a list of servers categorised by language or topic
a description
an idea of how many users and staffers there are
and an idea of how their rules work
rough sapphire
Oh god, now I'm thinking of how the Minecraft directories worked when Minecraft started.
rough sapphire
"Vote us up and you'll get in-game points!"
sand goblet
I had enough donations to pay like 60 dollars to be top of the list
and the bids you were making were shown publically
rough sapphire
Turns out you get like 10 points and anything of any value was 10,000 minimum
sand goblet
and then a guy from the server below us joined our IRC
and he was like
"can we have the top spot pls?"
rough sapphire
"WHY ARE YOU GUYS TRASH"
sand goblet
and were were like "no"
next month we bid again and they ended up at #1
can you guess how much they bid?
go on, gimme a ballpark
rough sapphire
a gorillion dollars
rough sapphire
👀 lolwut
sand goblet
yeah I know
and we bid 60 dollars and were sitting pretty at #2
I don't think the 16k bid was worth it tbh
haha
rough sapphire
Imagine having that kind of throw away cash for a Minecraft server
sand goblet
right?
rough sapphire
Like, to hell with investments!
sand goblet
I don't get it either
rough sapphire
Yeah that's crazy
sand goblet
so that's when we said "to hell with the server lists"
rough sapphire
There was one I was in, years and years ago
I forget what it's called. Had a lobby and a bunch of games
Was neat, but never was "Heck yeah I'll pay $20 a month for cosmetics" neat
If I remember correctly the cosmetic things they had would go away if you stopped paying
So it was a neat racket they had going
sand goblet
Lots and lots of servers did that
We refused to be part of it
But there were even servers where you could pay for unbans and staff ranks and stuff
rough sapphire
I remember those lol
They were in name only and did nothing
"I'm a staff member, I can do whatever I want. You're all idiots!" proceeds to get banned 5 minutes later
I watched that happen and the entire server lost it. Was amazing
rough sapphire
Oh god, I remember those
Then after saying "No, I don't care"
They'd come back on a modded client and try and wreck your stuff
"YOU SHOULD HAVE ALLOWED ME TO RATE YOUR STUFF. YOU ASKED FOR THIS"
sand goblet
I used to be an mcbans staff member
rough sapphire
I remember that happened once where "someone's account was hacked"
sand goblet
on our downtime we used to just visit random servers and see what they had going on
haha
rough sapphire
When in reality one of the admins just got bored and griefed the whole world
sand goblet
There actually was an exploit
You could abuse the login system to login as any user for a few seconds
rough sapphire
Well I mean, they later said "Yeah I don't like this server"
sand goblet
Which was enough time to give yourself staff access
Sure, but this was a thing too
haha
We had backups and stuff, so we were fine, but
rough sapphire
Huh. How would you have defended against that?
sand goblet
in short, you didn't
rough sapphire
Require captcha upon login?
sand goblet
There was a worse one
Where you could outright just login and play as anyone
It was funny at first, people joining the server as Notch and Dinnerbone
rough sapphire
Sure, that was what modded clients were all about
sand goblet
No, that was nothing to do with modded clients really
I mean yes, they were using modded clients, but that's not why they existed
haha
rough sapphire
Well, if I remember correctly, the server had to not do login checks or something
sand goblet
No, this worked on online-mode servers
sand goblet
They did fix it but it took them a couple days
rough sapphire
Huh.
sand goblet
so we just shut down the servers until they did
rough sapphire
What was the fix?
rough sapphire
Sounds like a captcha would have solved that to some extent. I mean, you could have scripted it to complete the captcha fairly quickly, but you could also have set limits. If you answered this 12 character captcha in 5 seconds you were probably a bot.
rough sapphire
Well I mean, you could have made a bot to become admin on numerous servers that way
Then just come back later as yourself
sand goblet
Wouldn't have been very effective on a lot of servers
rough sapphire
"Hey everyone, the admin says he's bored and I'm his cousin. How is everyone?"
sand goblet
Most servers didn't even use op
rough sapphire
"Have you guys ever been to a volcano?"
sand goblet
And it would be obvious from the permissions system setup if someone did set themselves
rough sapphire
"Because I'm replacing all dirt/dirt with grass spots with lava. gg"
sand goblet
Also we were logging commands to IRC haha
rough sapphire
That's a smart idea
Though I feel could be gotten around if spammed over and over again
sand goblet
Cancelled chat, commands, and signs
rough sapphire
"/fly"
sand goblet
We banned people from sharing personal info because we had a lot of kids
A few young girls tried to share phone numbers using signs
Glad we had the system in place tbh
rough sapphire
How'd you find out about that one?
sand goblet
I kept an eye on the log channel
rough sapphire
Oh, everything from signs were logged?
rough sapphire
Couldn't they have used different blocks to spell it out?
sand goblet
That would have been too much work
rough sapphire
Like, if they're in a dirt with grass area, just use cobblestone or whatever
sand goblet
It isn't something we'd have been worried about
rough sapphire
That was also, what, nearly 10 years ago?
rough sapphire
Ah, Windows Live Messenger.
sand goblet
And IMVU ofc
rough sapphire
IMVU is still a thing, lol
sand goblet
I know, haha
rough sapphire
I had a great time with Yahoo Messenger
Hopped into those questionable chats and baited some guy into thinking I was a girl. That was great
The lasted all of 6 months until he asked me to hop on mic
rough sapphire
So here I am, in my deepest voice "Hey baby"
sand goblet
Haha
rough sapphire
I mean, the guy was trying to pick up underage girls. He completely deserved it.
rough sapphire
But yeah, that lasted way longer than I expected it to
I think if I remember correctly all I did was hop on Google Images, search "brown hair girl" and stumbled upon someone's Photobucket album. Those were what I sent to the guy. Wasn't questionable or remotely NSFW. It was just some girl staring at the camera for like 7 pictures.
sand goblet
That works
rough sapphire
and the guy bought it, which was even weirder. No "I don't believe this is you!" or anything.
sand goblet
The guy I'm thinking of was grooming two younger girls I knew through Minecraft, who'd both sent him nudes so it was pretty easy to bust him
rough sapphire
oof
sand goblet
They were like 12 and 14
So I got one of their moms involved and she handled it
The guy's steam has been inactive since pretty much then so I like to think he got what he deserved haha
rough sapphire
I've never dealt with anyone like that, luckily. Craziest situation I've been in like that was I had a stalker who wouldn't leave me alone for the longest time. That was.. weird.
Or, wait, actually
There was this guy I remember. Not gonna throw out names, as his is fairly unique and he's easy to find, but he borrowed a friend's laptop while the friend was at work and looked up some highly illegal things through whatever was the popular filesharing system at the time. The friend gets to me, knowing I'm "good with computers" absolutely freaking out. Saying he needs some kind of proof that it wasn't him and everything.
He went so far as to get proof that he was at work from x to y on that date and everything.
sand goblet
If I think back, we didn't have quite that level of crazy
We had one guy come on IRC on heroin
Multiple people that faked both their persona and death
rough sapphire
Eventually gave that laptop to the police and explained the situation. Last I remember, that guy's been in jail for a while.
So that was pretty crazy.
rough sapphire
Which is crazy, cause I knew the guy. Hung out with him, played his SNES.
sand goblet
I forgot about my friend from Brazil and the stuff she talked about
Which, if true, would make her guilty of at least a couple counts of manslaughter..
rough sapphire
I mean, he always had a weird vibe about him, but nothing that made me question him on an ethical and moral level.
sand goblet
I get you, yeah
sand goblet
Last I heard about this chick, she was wanted for the execution of multiple people as well as drug smuggling and some other stuff
Which I was able to verify on a Brazilian news site
But I haven't heard from her in years, so
rough sapphire
There was this one guy, and this wasn't that long ago, maybe 2014-ish?
I was talking to him about mass surveillance, NSA type stuff.
So this guy goes on this, easily 30 minute rant about how he knows for a fact how to make it so your phone doesn't give off a GPS signal
So I'm like
Okay
Go on
Sure
Let's hear it
and this dude proceeds to hit me with one of the dumbest things I've heard in a while
sand goblet
Sorry if I go dark, about to hit the shopping centre
rough sapphire
"Alright"
"So, you know those gold chips on the back of your SIM card?"
"You gotta scratch that off"
"That's how they get you"
rough sapphire
u w0t m8?
So I proceed to not even try and reason with this guy, outside of literally going to the computer
typing in
"sim card wikipedia"
and trying to show him the wikipedia article
Which he then tries to discredit as "NAW MAN, the MAN edits wikipedia! That's what they want you to know!"
I had never facepalmed so hard in my life up until then
vestal briar
Hey hey
New pc is working
Swapped out motherboard, took a week for a refund and a new one shipping
May have plugged the aio radiator into the wrong part though, I think it's near max on idle but on the other hand i'm at 20c
undone berry
Amazon might be evil, but it is definitely the easiest place to buy tech from
vestal briar
Yep
undone berry
Their returns policy is so fucking easy
vestal briar
Amazon prime is just too convenient to get rid of for our household
Looks like this new motherboard is much higher quality for £10 more
summer knot
Next upgrade I'm likely to make is the display. I'm still on a mobo from about vintage 2013 or so, but It Runs
I'm one of those folks who upgrades only when it's impossible to work or when something actually dies
bronze root
https://youtu.be/VbUuB1aN2DA?t=17 tfw getting lost on youtube
undone berry
I bought a coffee from mcdonalds, they didn't give me a stick to stir it with, so I used a pen, now my coffee tastes like plastic
rough sapphire
not a good idea to drink it probably
undone berry
I got halfway through then came to the same conclusion
rough sapphire
on the other hand, your pen probably tastes like coffee now
undone berry
This was from the drive through - I got sugar, the guy just forgot the stick this time
rough sapphire
$9/hr work usually gets talent that corresponds with it
undone berry
I dunno, when I worked at Dominos I worked with people who were genuinely hard workers
rough sapphire
I worked minimum wage jobs growing up and it was mostly a wasteland
rough sapphire
sodium chloride
that's me when I play online video games
...
this channel name always makes me think of https://youtu.be/gIEJn6ILdPU
jimmy neutron is such a little shit
vestal briar
Any more easy-to-use alternatives to opengl
frosty berry
to do what? and do abstractions over opengl work, or do you want radicaly different tech? (like direct3D, which might be easier to use, depending on who you ask, or other more modern low level framework, which i don't think are easier to use, but i don't know them well enough).
rough sapphire
I just realized doing
alt + scroll_down
make me zoom to the cursor
up*
I have no clue where up is supposed to be in that
scroll_up
Ah, gotcha
modern island
This channel name makes me want to scream
rough sapphire
escape
often that's not enough
use prepared statements. please.
I just run all my user input through eval()
sessurity :+1:
Sekure 👍
rough sapphire
every time i listen to spotify, my discord logs get spammed with this
it's... scanning the devices on my network? https://i.imgur.com/Wg5C3hr.png
why does it need to know this?
what the fuck
it would make sense if these are the devices I've played or am playing from, but I've never even launched spotify on the chromecast (first in list)
rough sapphire
yeah dog
for the spotify client
these logs are from my discord client (I don't even have spotify on this machine)
sand goblet
wait, are you telling me you don't know about the spotify integration?
rough sapphire
You can pair the two, and add your account to Discord.
I'm well aware of that
my question is why Discord needs to be sent the information of what devices there are on my network
in what world would Discord use that information for anything remotely useful
sand goblet
well local discovery and connection is going to be leagues more efficient
rough sapphire
I can't play songs via Discord
sand goblet
also those logs don't say anything about sending
rough sapphire
"Kuur", the first device on the list, is on a network 20km away from the machine I pulled these logs from
why Discord needs to be sent the information of what devices there are on my network
"It's a feature"
sand goblet
it's emulating spotify's device discovery feature
which does also list devices that are active on your account
rough sapphire
Discord, in theory, only needs the currently playing song's metadata and current timestamp sent
rough sapphire
how?
sand goblet
No, when you have nitro it directly follows the other person's player state
it's not just "listen to the same song"
sand goblet
Ah okay
rough sapphire
I'm actually in some sort of nitro-limbo state
I don't have nitro anymore, but I still kept my discrim and can occasionally post emotes from other servers
undone berry
I've definitely listened along to others before
sand goblet
heck yeah, spaceplan
anyway, those are just my guesses
you haven't actually shown that info is being sent to discord though
rough sapphire
I pulled this from discord
sand goblet
from the console
rough sapphire
and I used spotify on another network 20km away
i just had this discord client open here in my apartment
sand goblet
I'm not sure of the specifics of the spotify api, to be honest
I've heard it's not particularly easy, though
rough sapphire
If you use Spotify at all and you have Spotify connected to your Discord, you'll get your listening to show up
So if I have it connected, and I'm not even on the same network, Discord will still pull the info and show what you're listening to
sure, that's fine
but all of the devices on my network which can play spotify?
why
sand goblet
it may be that it's just getting that from the spotify api
sand goblet
Hey, while you two are here, I've a quick opinion question
Which is the worst look? This when zoomed out all the way, or...
this when zoomed in all the way, or...
tiles reloading the first time you reach a zoom level
I just can't decide
although I'm leaning towards the third option
sand goblet
I'm rewriting JourneyMap's webmap
sand goblet
backend half in kotlin, frontend half using vue and leaflet, and open source
yeah, the first is.. not good
the difference between the two is what I have image-rendering set to
the first one has it set to crisp-edges, which means that zoomed in it looks great even with a low res image
the latter is the browser's default rendering, but you can clearly see the grid at min zoom
gah, I have to go out
rough sapphire
cya dude
sand goblet
I guess the fourth option is to dynamically apply a CSS class based on zoom to set image-rendering
I'll have to try it
sand goblet
That's pretty big news
rough sapphire
I MEAN
lol.. oh that one is just a meme
are they implying viral warfare?
RLSW is in Shanghai
yes.. they are implying viral warfare.. and all the clues fit
I'm reading this right that this seems to be human-engineered?
- China began treating patients with HIV meds long before this paper was published, so they knew its behavior already. 2. Russia also recommended the same. 3. This paper comes out with 4 distinct strands in HIV-1, also present in nCov, which is not a coincidence
- the BSL-4 lab in Wuhan was set up for researching SARS. It's highly likely this was leaked. 5. 8 whistleblowers came out to expose the news back in December but China silenced them.
China silenced people?
Shocked Pikachu
- Chinese government sounded the alarm about it and for the international community to take notice of it. 7. the other countries came out with travel bans.
So what you're saying is, Stranger Things.
I'm kinda scared.. Japan evacuated like 570 people from Wuhan.. and let them go home, only recently they're showing symptoms, meaning they've already been spreading it
To think we were worried about WWIII just a month ago
it would've ended with Iran getting nuked and oil supplies to india, japan, etc. being cut.. but this is biowarfare..
it takes a minimum of 6 months to come up with a vaccine..
I'm more trying to make a serious thing less serious by comedy.
Considering this is HYUGE
autumn herald
Authors in the comments replies that they will retire the paper
rough sapphire
@autumn herald Comments?
they said they'll revise it
Oh, I didn't have Disqus enabled
autumn herald
From Tron's link
rough sapphire
autumn herald
I think they made the thing a bit too sensationalist and now they get scared to pass as crows
rough sapphire
but.. they were on to something.. as evidenced by Russia's recommendations here
and this
Sounds scary
I've seen some videos from the affected areas.. it's pretty bad how people are treating each other
autumn herald
Ativirus to fight virus doesnt surprise me that much
rough sapphire
they knew normal antibiotics wouldn't work
I mean, that's not much of a surprise though. Considering antibiotics is used for far too many things, and isn't as effective as it once was.
but.. knowing that HIV meds will be effective..
It's a huge deal if it's true. Will be interesting to see what comes out of it all
autumn herald
Antibiotic aren't supposed to work on any virus right
It's for bacterial/fungus infection
undone berry
That's what I thought
autumn herald
Or is the word larger in english
rough sapphire
antibiotics are used to treat pneumonia
undone berry
No. I'm pretty sure I remember that antibiotics are bacteria only
Both bacteria and viruses cause pneumonia
autumn herald
You mean they're prescribed wrongly because symptoms are those of pneumonia ?
rough sapphire
in cases where there's no vaccine, the diseases are treated symptomatically
they prescribed it even for SARS.. which is closely related
antibiotics I mean
autumn herald
Are you sure you are not mistaken, with others drugs
undone berry
I also think you must be wrong
autumn herald
Antibiotics can't kill virus, so you don't prescribe it if you know it's a virus. It will most likely just worsen the condition and not treat symptom. However i believe there might be other drugs used to treat symptoms in all case (idk like dilating bronchs, cough syrups, whatever)
rough sapphire
they prescribe it along with antivirals, etc.. like I said they treat it symptomatically when there's no vaccine
autumn herald
Mistakingly prescribing/taking antibiotics leads to bacterial resistance
rough sapphire
autumn herald
Yeah your link states that it's prescribed when they don't know yet what they're facing and it can be excluded later
rough sapphire
wait a minute
aren't you the one that works in pharma
can you send me some HIV drugs.. so I can be prepared
I'm wondering if they're available OTC
autumn herald
Sorry, we only give unnaproved drugs
rough sapphire
I'll take it
autumn herald
(Since the aim is to get them approved)
I'll give you hospital adress if i see a phase 1 in your country and they search volunteers :p
rough sapphire
lol
if I catch this thing, they'll come and forcibly admit me to a hospital anyway
autumn herald
free experimental drugs wooo
wheat lynx
Antivirals kill viruses
autumn herald
and sometimes your liver too
rough sapphire
have to take those chances
autumn herald
everything is benefit risk erh!
rough sapphire
QoL with pneumonia is pretty bad.. not to mention pleural effusion and reduce lung capacity etc
autumn herald
can't lift with pneumonia bruh
rough sapphire
fuck.. I should've stayed in europe
autumn herald
you are in japan right?
rough sapphire
ya
vestal briar
If you just say "Coronavirus" that includes the common cold
undone berry
It doesn't
Every single person
Reading the word coronavirus
Knows what he means
So it means the specific strand which is in the news
frosty berry
i take the plane tonight from brazil to france (and i think there have been cases in both countries) wish me luck! I probably should buy a mask 😬
undone berry
I'm sure you'll be fine - but good luck
frosty berry
feels hot and check his throat for bumps
undone berry
If it makes you feel better; even if you do get it you probably won't die
frosty berry
yeah, i know it's overreaction, and i'm not in panic at all, i know even catching is far from a death sentence, but if i got it i'd like to know to avoid spreading it
(and get treated using what we know about it of course)
undone berry
but if i got it i'd like to know to avoid spreading it
Haven't you seen zombie movies? You're meant to hide it and spread it to as many people as possible
frosty berry
actually i didn't see a lot of these, i did see the night of the living dead, which is an old one, but not sure i saw any others
undone berry
Zombie movies - fantastic or terrible - are some of my favourite films
sand goblet
It's terrrooooor time again
sand goblet
Success!
rough sapphire
Looks good
sand goblet
I think it'll work
I need to think about how I'm going to display dims though, and I also need to worry about map modes and cave layers..
polar vigil
Anyone have been working with PLC?
rough sapphire
weren't you playing runescape ? @sand goblet
sand goblet
I can play more than one game, AG
naive ibex
Is this python @sand goblet?
rough sapphire
@sand goblet you can write mc mods in js now nice
sand goblet
I'm not writing an MC mod
haha
I'm rewriting the webmap for an existing mod
(JourneyMap)
rough sapphire
oh it looked like a map hud mod
oh
nice
i remember journeymap
you have a 2nd browser in the mod right and you can use it to like see your map
sand goblet
Yeah, the webmap already existed but it wasn't very reliable, you could open the map in a browser
I already rewrote the backend in Kotlin, it's the frontend that needs work
rough sapphire
i never used the webmap but it was cool when i used that mod
undone berry
What are you writing the front end in?
undone berry
Have you used any other framework? If so, how does Vue copmare?
I've heard good things about Vue but not touched it
sand goblet
I haven't, but people tell me they like Vue because of its simplicity
you do a thing
and it works just how you'd expect it to
rough sapphire
vue is good it doesnt require a bunch of overhead like react and angular
sand goblet
it also doesn't over-complicate things, in my experience
do you like my car?
that was annoying to do ngl, good thing there's a leaflet plugin for rotation
rough sapphire
@sand goblet 🚙
sand goblet
the actual code for this is pretty simple
the main thing to note is that object we push to markers
that's all we have to do, vue picks up on that and handles all the work
undone berry
Looks interesting; a lot easier than the other JS map stuff I've done
sand goblet
It's quite nice, if a little rigid
I'm combining that with vue2-leaflet
so that's where that l-marker component is coming from
I mean the entire body for this thing is
it really doesn't get much simpler
I dunno why I didn't just link github tbh, you can poke about with it here https://github.com/TeamJM/webmap-client/
although you can't actually test it since my webmap backend isn't released yet
but if you did want to help, I could hook you up
undone berry
I don't think I have enough time or ability with JS to be able to provide much help
sand goblet
That's fair, haha
undone berry
This approach to curly braces ```
if (!response.ok)
{
throw new JMError(response.status, response.statusText, response)
}
eugh
rough sapphire
the C programmer in me is screaming at the unnecessary use of braces
sand goblet
That one I am not ashamed of
Let's not forget how apple fucked up their ssl stuff by not using braces
undone berry
I don't see any advantage to not using braces - even if you just keep it to one line, braces don't impact readability
rough sapphire
🤔 you can say that about anything g
sand goblet
No, if they used braces, both gotos would have been inside the conditional block
Without braces, the second one is not
rough sapphire
that's equivalent to
if(x) {
goto y;
}
goto y;
both go to y dog
fervent dock
lol
rough sapphire
also any sane IDE will not indent the second line after if
sand goblet
Well I'm just telling you what happened
Also no IDE will do that if you just hit the duplicate line shortcut
But they're apple devs, so they were obviously using xcode
Anyway, accidentally adding that goto there resulted in SSL certs being accepted that shouldn't have been
There should only have been one goto
If they'd have used braces, at least both would have been in the conditional block
And that is precisely why so many projects mandate braces at all times
rough sapphire
I don't see how the language is at fault for bad programmers
adding an extra line fucked us
yeah no shit?
try not adding an extra line next time
undone berry
I feel like half of Java's design philosophy is about ensuring bad programmers write ok code - so theres some merit
sand goblet
You have to allow for humans being humans
rough sapphire
i'm actually very upset you'd use that as some sort of advantage in a debate like this
tired osprey
(i dont even understand why this was a personal attack can someone tell me?)
sand goblet
It's just in reference to mistakes made as a teenager, I'm not gonna go into it
It's not my place to explain
tired osprey
aha
undone berry
It forces explicitness throughout, and ensures that stuff like IDE refactoring will pretty much always work
I've heard better arguments for the idea than I can make
sand goblet
To be fair, you can also omit braces in java
And, I believe, Kotlin
But I don't see why you would
@rough sapphire Look, I'm sorry if that rubbed you up the wrong way, but you can't design any language with the assumption that all your users will be infallible
It can be useful for shorter apps and scripts, but it's largely accepted that it's a Bad Idea in larger projects
tired osprey
@undone berry well and then java allows values to have null, generics have been largely hacked into at at version 5.0 which makes some nice stuff you could do with them impossible and requires you to develop hacks in return. java does not allow you to have unsigned types which again enforces programmers that need this to develop hacks
and so on
sand goblet
It does have unsigned types actually
sand goblet
int is unsigned
sand goblet
No, wait, its part of Integer in java 8 isn't it
In Java SE 8 and later, you can use the int data type to represent an unsigned 32-bit integer, which has a minimum value of 0 and a maximum value of 2^32-1. Use the Integer class to use int data type as an unsigned integer. Static methods like compareUnsigned, divideUnsigned etc have been added to the Integer class to support the arithmetic operations for unsigned integers.
Sort of half way there
tired osprey
yay i guess
still leaves the bad generics impl and the null type
but i guess many languages have nullable types so thats okay ish
so generics
sand goblet
Kotlin does help solve the generics problem by using in and out keywords
tired osprey
yes but this is about java's generics and the point that java makes you write good code
and the fact that
public class MyClass<E> {
public static void myMethod(Object item) {
if (item instanceof E) { //Compiler error
...
}
E item2 = new E(); //Compiler error
E[] iArray = new E[10]; //Compiler error
}
}
this is impossible
makes me very sad
sand goblet
Hmm, yeah, that would be useful
Oh my god, I filled an empty jar of peanut butter with water and put it by the sink so I could let it soak while I ate dinner and clean it out for recycling after
It disappeared so I assumed someone else did it
I just found it in a cupboard and it is the most foul smelling thing I've ever come across
sand goblet
Haha
lime gazelle
wohoo! tomorrow is the day when I officially become a full time ansible engineer peep
sand goblet
\o/
lime gazelle
I'm ready to utterly destroy the storage as I attempt to do a work I'm clearly not qualified to do, cause I don't have experience
my tutor says infrastructure is not my field, and I was sent too early to do a job that required much more knowledge and experience
😔
rough sapphire
python is pink today ❤️
covert scaffold
this month*
arctic zephyr
By the way, why is the Server logo suddenly.... Pink?
edgy magnet
rough sapphire
oh it's valentines day
odd thorn
There's an idea for next year; see if it's possible to make the snakes out of chocolate.
rough sapphire
why not red
lime gazelle
cause pink is awesome
oak tangle
Because we liked pink ¯_(ツ)_/¯
viral parrot
we had a bit strange screenshot, thinking it might be some custom discord mod I talked to FlamingCore about it.
its a RTL layout on android
but its forced turned on, and its a hidden dev option
sand goblet
It's probably a modified manifest then
solid pollen
Whaaat
viral parrot
it was very strange to use. even my app locations swaped places on the home screen
viral parrot
yes, under drawing
solar otter
@viral parrot no but the thing is, it starts normaly but then after viewing history or looking at images or activating on_resume method on android it switches sides
lime gazelle
verbal bear
Do u guys know any good mobile multiplayer game? I'm kinda bored since school year just started and there's nothing to do
bronze root
@sand goblet what is whitespace actually used for 
sand goblet
Absolutely nothing
bronze root
esolang ?
sand goblet
I always found COW funny despite it basically just being a brainfuck dialect
MoO moO MoO mOo MOO OOM MMM moO moO
MMM mOo mOo moO MMM mOo MMM moO moO
MOO MOo mOo MoO moO moo mOo mOo moo
lmao
sand goblet
that's the fibonacci sequence
bronze root
at this point, it's art
sand goblet
we also have Chef, with its Hello World Cake with Chocolate sauce
it's too long to post here though
bronze root
sand goblet
or Shakespeare, with The Infamous Hellow World Program http://shakespearelang.sourceforge.net/report/shakespeare/#sec:hello
or even LOLCODE
HAI 1.3
IM IN YR loop UPPIN YR var TIL BOTH SAEM var AN 10
VISIBLE SMOOSH var AN " " MKAY!
IM OUTTA YR loop
KTHXBYE
i'm getting more and more lost about how those work lmao
sand goblet
absolutely none of these are intended to actually be used
but interpreters do exist for most of them
bronze root
bronze root
might be interesting as a challenge
sand goblet
you'll like this one
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#>70g>90g-! #@_^Befunge!! 123456 123456 VvVv!#!>Weird! >0ggv*
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that's a Befunge program
bronze root
sand goblet
and here's the output
GHIJKLM UVWXYZ
FGHIJKLMNOP VWXYZA
EFGHIJKLMNOPQR WXYZAB
EFGHIJKLMNOPQRST XYZABC
FGHIJKL PQRSTU EFGHIJ QRSTUV ABCDEF HIJKL OPQRS YZABCD
GHIJKLM CDEFGHIJKLM RSTUVW BCDEFG IJKLMNOPQRSTUV ZABCDE
HIJKLMNOPQR CDEFGHIJKLMNO STUVWX CDEFGH JKLMNOPQRSTUVW ABCDEF
JKLMNOPQRSTUV CDEFGH LMNOPQ TUVWXY DEFGHI KLMNOPQRSTUVWXY BCDEFG
LMNOPQRSTUVWXY DEFGH NOPQR UVWXYZ EFGHIJ LMNOPQ UVWXYZ DEFG
OPQRSTUVWXYZA DEFGHI OPQRST VWXYZA FGHIJK MNOPQ WXYZAB EFGH
STUVWXYZAB EFGHIJ PQRSTU WXYZAB GHIJKL NOPQR XYZABC FGHI
WXYZABCD FGHIJK QRSTUV XYZABC HIJKLM OPQRS YZABCD GHIJ
MNOPQRS YZABCDE GHIJKL RSTUVW YZABCD IJKLMN PQRST ZABCDE
NOPQRSTU YZABCDEF HIJKLM STUVWX ZABCDEF IJKLMNO QRSTU ABCDEF HIJKLM
PQRSTUVWXYZABCDEF JKLMNO STUVWX ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP RSTUVW ABCDEFG IJKLMN
RSTUVWXYZABCDEF LMNOPQRSTUVWX CDEFGHIJKLMNOPQ STUVWXYZABCDEFG JKLMNO
TUVWXYZABCDEF NOPQRSTUVWX DEFGHIJK MNOPQR TUVWXYZABCDEFG KLMNOP
XYZABCDE QRSTUVW GHIJK NOPQRS UVWXY BCDEF LMNOPQ
VWXYZ
WXYZA
XYZAB
YZABC
haha
bronze root
it does looks pretty good
sand goblet
if it looks messed up, you need to look at it on a wider screen
it's one of the only 2D programming languages I've seen
bronze root
memories
sand goblet
but yeah, befunge operates on a 2D playing field
starting at the upper left corner and travelling right
it's really, really weird
bronze root
did someone actually make program with it tho
sand goblet
super neat though
yes
that soup program does run, by the way
it's a real program
bronze root
is it just printing it out ?
bronze root
it's all fun and games
sand goblet
even though this one can't handle that application
bronze root
wonder if you could make an interpreter using python
sand goblet
you can see how befunge modifies the playing field
yeah, probably, can't imagine it being super hard
bronze root
have an idea
programming language using an image
might be an interesting project for my school's exam task
rough sapphire
wonder if you could make an interpreter using python :senkothink:
@bronze root
you can make an interpreter with any turing complete language
frosty berry
@bronze root look into "piet" 🙂 (programming language where source code is an image)
bronze root
it was the kinda thing I wanted to do (but way simpler)
damn, it really looks like an art painting
frosty berry
🙂 heh, the name is not an accident
sand goblet
So polling and voting for a democratic candidate happened in Iowa yesterday
The media decided to hide one of the polling results, which it's now come out had Sanders at first and Biden at fourth
Now that the voting is over, the DNC is delaying the results, stating the reasoning of "quality control" and stating that the app they released that people had to use to vote had malfunctioned
It turns out the app was made by a company nobody has heard of called Shadow, it was paid for by Buttegieg and the DNC, and Shadow won't respond to comment
This whole thing is such a circus
It's so obvious that Biden did embarrassingly badly and the DNC are trying to somehow twist the numbers in their favour
rough sapphire
well cheating is what they do.. can't change that
it's perspective.. to them as long as the end justifies the means, it's not wrong
sand goblet
Uuugh
severe heart
viral parrot
@rough sapphire this one
viral parrot
whats your issue?
rough sapphire
My computer was not usable because I played with regestry editor
I resetted my pc
but now
I have 4 logical processors but 2 cores
and my pc is slow as f***
and on a side note I threw my mouse when you muted me
I was so...
I don't know what word can describe it
but yea
I resetted
how can I fix the core issue?
viral parrot
so what was this reset?
viral parrot
there are many types. what did you do?
rough sapphire
shift+restart > troubleshoot > reset
my computer didn't lose cores because of that
viral parrot
no, the cores are physical hardware
rough sapphire
I lost cores after I restarted my pc after editing regestry editor
wait
my computer is slow now
viral parrot
but you need to install the chipset drivers if you did a windows reset
viral parrot
what is your computer name?
rough sapphire
LAPTOP-VF6HOHKS
viral parrot
do you have 188 processes running after reset?
rough sapphire
is my computer supposed to have that on the screenshot above?
that screenshot was taken seconds ago
so yea
I didn't check it before the restart after editing my regestor
viral parrot
press details
rough sapphire
ok
rough sapphire
how do you sort?
viral parrot
you click the column name processor or cpu
not sure about the name, im on a mac so i have to guess
viral parrot
so what is your laptop brand, name and model?
Dell Xperia SD453 or something like that
rough sapphire
viral parrot
I cant see it from the about page, you have to look at your laptop
rough sapphire
what
viral parrot
you have a laptop right?
rough sapphire
I don't have any sort of text in my laptop