#ot1-perplexing-regexing

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gentle moss
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what about granny scooters?

sand goblet
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just because all mechanically propelled vehicles require tax and insurance here, and you can't tax or insure an electric scooter

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yes those are illegal

undone berry
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Do they get used despite their illegality?

sand goblet
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yes, and they get confiscated

undone berry
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Or do they just not exist really in Ireland?

sand goblet
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someone went to court recently

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like a month ago

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got 5 points on their license for using one

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because that's what you get if you drive a car without insurance

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our laws aren't up to date enough to deal with it

gentle moss
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what if, and hear my out, you use a brushless DC motor directly to each wheel

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then it's not mechanically powered

sand goblet
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if it goes on its own, it's an MPV

gentle moss
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aw

sand goblet
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the only thing that doesn't count is that pedal assist thing for going up hills on a bike

gentle moss
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but if you used it going downhill...

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or exclusively over the pedals?

sand goblet
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I mean, you'd be going downhill

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yeah it's a device that gives your pedalling more oomph

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you still have to pedal

gentle moss
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yeah but it's still a motor

sand goblet
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yeah but it doesn't go on its own

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you still have to pedal

gentle moss
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what if you made the assist SUPER strong

sand goblet
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hahaha, no, they thought of that

undone berry
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Are these kinds of electric bike still illegal? They can do 100% of the pedalling so your feet just sit there

gentle moss
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bastards

sand goblet
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yes they are illegal

gentle moss
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i think ireland is just making it illegal to look like a bit of a twat

sand goblet
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people thought you could get away with it if you had to push start the scooter

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but that's been proven wrong by the courts

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also no, it's not that they made it illegal

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it's that the laws are oudated

undone berry
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They could surely just choose to not apply those laws too rigorously

gentle moss
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this is ireland

sand goblet
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that's not really how laws work

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unless you're a traveller, then that's how laws work

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haha

gentle moss
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they chained a foreign woman to a bed to force her to give birth

sand goblet
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oh yeah, I remember that

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she died, too

gentle moss
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yeah

sand goblet
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that's what started the abortion debate here

gentle moss
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nice one fucking ireland

sand goblet
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we have abortion now

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it seems like we'll get legalised electric mopeds here this year

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but it seems like they will also require a full car drivers' license

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which is nuts

undone berry
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Do you have the same thing as here where all you need to drive a normal moped is a CBT?

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impossible to fail test

sand goblet
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if you have a petrol moped or a pushbike or something then no license is required

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although the petrol moped needs to be below a certain speed rating

gentle moss
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and you end up with fucking twats on the road because of it piers

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16 year old little shits practically killing people

rough sapphire
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our law says that anything up to 49cc doesn't require a license

sand goblet
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it's similar here, below 50cc, but petrol only

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the law doesn't account for electric

rough sapphire
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yeah

gentle moss
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that's kinda crazy

sand goblet
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the other thing is that I'm not sure an elecric scooter at that low a rating would actually last long enough to get me to work anyway

rough sapphire
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there are some other nuances to the law as well

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my quad is registered as a "mini tractor" which means I can drive it without a license even though it's 750cc

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but I can't go over, like, 60km/h or something

sand goblet
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you can't drive a quad on a road here

undone berry
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Its a giant faff to do it legally here as well apparently

rough sapphire
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however, the indicator itself is in mph so for the longest time I drove at 60mph

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thinking 60km/h is a lot faster than it actually is

sand goblet
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yeah that's almost 100KM/h haha

rough sapphire
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always thought "wow, 60km/h seems a lot slower in cars" and attributed it to, like, being "in the open" on a quad

sand goblet
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the main reason I wanted a moped in the first place was because I didn't need a license

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and then learning that the renewable option is entirely illegal

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I just

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goddamnit haha

undone berry
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How do you currently get to work?

rough sapphire
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I just get the train... it's free, fast, and always on time

sand goblet
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I get a lift from my parents

rough sapphire
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as I am in school
Scooty

gentle moss
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hahha

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man xx

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wrong reading the speedo

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60mph on a quad is some damn pace

undone berry
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tinnitus is the absolute epitome of mildly infuriating - I really hope theres a cure one day

oak tangle
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I wouldn't count on it, but I could use it, too

frosty berry
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oh yeah, i only get short ones, from times to times, a few seconds, every other month or so, but i can see how a full time one could be really maddening

oak tangle
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That's fairly normal, but those are luckily louder and different from continuous tinnitus I hear

sand goblet
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I have it too but it's not prominent at all for me, I only really notice it in bed at night

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Mostly tuned out otherwise

undone berry
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I don't even notice it really except when I'm trying to sleep - but in the last few days I feel like its getting worse

oak tangle
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My hearing is noticeably damaged in general. I have issues following conversations when there's any other source of sound (or just a chaotic conversation with more than a few individuals). It's worse if I can't rely on visual clues to help me (darkness).

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I just tune out

sand goblet
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I've pretty much had it my entire life so I don't find it annoying

vestal briar
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I only hear it when I either think about it or absolute silence

sand goblet
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Yep that's basically it for me too

vestal briar
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Why do so many have it here

sand goblet
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It's fairly common

vestal briar
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I thought it was ~5%

sand goblet
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A lot of people don't know they have it

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I only realised that's what it was like two weeks ago

vestal briar
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I realised a month ago

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It took me a week to not constantly think about it and just send myself into a negative spiral

sand goblet
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But my hearing is already pretty weird

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I can hear some kinds of electrical plugs when they're turned on for example

vestal briar
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Mines been slightly bad from birth, I can't compare it to anything so it's fine for me

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Wait can't everyone hear that?

sand goblet
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God no

vestal briar
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Huh

sand goblet
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It's so annoying too

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None of my plugs do it but some people have things that do it

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It's usually cheap stuff that does it

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Or speakers if you don't turn them off when you're not using them

undone berry
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I can also hear that sometimes

vestal briar
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Yeah, I have it with poor quality lipo charger (think drone batteries) or some phone chargers

undone berry
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and I point it out

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and people call me crazy

vestal briar
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Yeah

undone berry
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I assumed it was just the age difference

sand goblet
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Yeah

vestal briar
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Also I can't hear it head on

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I have to have ears slightly angled towards it

sand goblet
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Reminds me of that stupid ringtone they had at school

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The teachers were mostly too old to be able to hear it becuase it was so high pitched

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But we could all hear it

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So a lot of people used it as their message tone

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So annoying

vestal briar
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Good idea

sand goblet
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It's a good idea until everyone starts doing it

vestal briar
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I have never seen the point of a ringtone unless you have a handbag

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If you're in school it's always near you so vibrate is fine

sand goblet
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I can hear vibrate most of the time

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But I have a loud ass ringtone for when I don't

vestal briar
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I don't know what my volume is

sand goblet
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On my last phone it used to blare a solo saxophone and it made everyone jump out of their skin

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This one is a bit less crazy

vestal briar
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Haha

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We once had someone who put the minions theme tune on their ringtone

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Rang in french class at 100% volume and the teacher was laughing whilst confiscating it

sand goblet
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Haha

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We had a teacher that had the policy that the first time something happens, that time is free

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So the first time a phone went off in the class was free

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The camera on my phone went off on its own in my pocket, a clamshell with a screen on the back for selfies

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So I got away with that one

vestal briar
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Ours is whenever the teacher finds it annoying or you are completely gone from your work

sand goblet
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Someone else had an ipod start playing music on its own

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Good times

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Otherwise they were strict, don't use a phone or they'll take it, sound or not

vestal briar
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Haha

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My old school banned phones alltogether

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You had to have it switched off in schooltime

sand goblet
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I had an ipad

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Which I did use for class sometimes but mostly not

vestal briar
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When instagram was the primary form of communication it can get tricky

undone berry
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My school also banned phones altogether - actually seems pretty effective

sand goblet
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They didn't really know how to tell so they let me use it if I was done my work

vestal briar
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Banning phones is meh in my eyes

sand goblet
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It works pretty well

vestal briar
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We'll just find another way to annoy teachers

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For us if we didn't distract ourselves with phones it was pushing everyone around and bottle flipping

undone berry
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As long as teachers don't power trip on it, it just lets teachers shut down annoying pricks with one less argument

sand goblet
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One of our teachers designed the uniform

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And he was strict about people wearing it properly

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So one day everyone in our class turned up our collars going into class

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Entire room of 40 people with our collars up

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Haha

vestal briar
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We where going to do that for something similar

sand goblet
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He was pissed but he couldn't put us all in detention

vestal briar
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They made a very stupid uniform enforcement so we where planning for own clothes but because we where all 8, parents shut it down

sand goblet
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The uniform we had was kind of crap

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Blue jumper, white polo, grey trousers, all pretty low quality

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Girls had the option of a grey skirt and black tights

vestal briar
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Yeah

sand goblet
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The skirts weren't elasticated or anything so a lot of them elected not to wear it

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Although they did have pockets!

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However they were quite short and ended up being removed from the uniform

vestal briar
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We just have some trousers, a shirt and a blazer that is just another school's with a replaced pocket with badge

sand goblet
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I knew a girl in America that was named Kyra, went to a Jewish school

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And they had to wear like, microskirts, sleeveless blazers.. It was weird. And inappropriate.

vestal briar
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Strange

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I'd like to wear own clothes at school

undone berry
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School uniforms, if not expensive, are fantastic

sand goblet
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We had the odd non-uniform day, otherwise they were strict about it

vestal briar
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A good comprimise could be having the school embroided onto own clothes so they are comftable for the person but still "approved" by the school with identification that comes with having uniforms

sand goblet
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Well the point of a uniform is that people aren't trying to out-dress each other

undone berry
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Theres no downside to uniform, but multiple upsides

sand goblet
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They are often quite uncomfortable and don't last

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As was the case with ours

undone berry
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The standard here is generic trouser/shirt+ a blazer

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so its pretty hard for that to not be as durable as you want

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Like, you can get the trousers/shirts in Tesco

vestal briar
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Only upsides I can think of are kids not flaunting their parents money and unification in school

sand goblet
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We had to get the jumper and shirt from a specific store because it had the crest on it

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Only one store in town was allowed to sell it

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Some of us realised the shirt didn't matter because it was under the jumper

undone berry
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Upsides:

  1. Makes the school look smarter and more professional
  2. Uniformity amongst kids helps prevent bullying, and has other upsides
  3. A standard uniform allows schools to easily financially support parents
sand goblet
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What

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Point 3

vestal briar
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Was going to say

sand goblet
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What're you smoking my dude

undone berry
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Its not uncommon for schools to give free uniforms

vestal briar
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Blazers are £80 unless you are low income

sand goblet
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You couldn't get a chewed toffee from the schools in Ireland

undone berry
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But yeah, the inverse is also a downside

vestal briar
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And you could just give own-clothes a set budget

sand goblet
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A white polo shirt, nylon, with the crest on it

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Cost 50 euro

vestal briar
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Or have a set of approved clothes

undone berry
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"Blazers are £80 unless you are low income"

sand goblet
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You could buy a crest and embroider it yourself

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For 50 euro

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Plus the cost of the actual item of clothing

vestal briar
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Ours doesn't really have a crest

sand goblet
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It was actually cheaper not to do that

vestal briar
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It's sewn into the pocket

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Sort of a large patch that acts as a pocket

sand goblet
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When my laptop screen died they did let me take one of their old monitors

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Pretty sure the shirt cost more than they paid for it though

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It's late, I need to sleep, haha

vestal briar
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Oh huh it's the 11th

jagged fog
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oh boy d.py server is still toxic asf

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not even 5 min in I already got swears stap

rough sapphire
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hahahahah

rough sapphire
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welcome to discord.py where everyone is toxic as hell

golden walrus
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I think my cause of death will be bad posture

fallen sparrow
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thanks for the reminder to sit up straight

golden walrus
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not even reminders work on me

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:c

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so, @fallen sparrow, I'm a bit curious

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what's the story behind your profile picture?

fallen sparrow
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hmm there's not really a story, just a photo of a highway I took from an observation tower

golden walrus
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ah, I see

fallen sparrow
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just picked a random photo from my pictures library lol

gentle quartz
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this is a story all about how my life got flipped turned upside down

golden walrus
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would you like to take a minute?

gentle moss
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[00:06] Piers Morgan: Its not uncommon for schools to give free uniforms

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woah

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that's.... very much the opposite of what parents deal with on a regular basis

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ahhhhhhhh

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microsoft's on the crack again

oak tangle
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Looks like it made a meaningful decision anyway

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just do nothing and ship the shit off to the end user

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here, you handle with this, I'm out of here

gentle moss
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we've been trying to converts accounts from a distribution group to a shared mailbox for like 2 weeks

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and keep running into different errors

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this is a new one though

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oh no

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the database number has GONE DOWN

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39970 to 39958

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is.... is someone destroying microsoft?

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39957

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another one gone.

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this feels like a support call job :/

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wtf, it's telling me accounts is already in use now

gentle moss
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ahhh yes...

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rescue...

gentle moss
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poor guy in arizona wished for british weather

rough sapphire
gentle moss
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every time i say "good luck" i feel like i'm being a dick

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because british people never wish people luck positively

undone berry
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I find myself saying it all the time in a mostly sarcastic way

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which is obviously a pretty annoying trait

gentle moss
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i mean, that's our cynical nature

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like "that's brave" etc

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it most certainly isn't brave, it's fucking stupid.

undone berry
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Thats brave is another favourite of mine. Although that one is pretty much never used un-sarcastically

gentle moss
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entire chunks of language with opposite intentions

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doing jackbox tonight charlie?

scarlet zodiac
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wth is a forkbomb

gentle moss
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hah

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something i'm not allowed to show you how to do

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it's a self replicating process that replicates until resources on a system are exhausted

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looks something like that

solid pollen
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They are pretty easy to make, just create a process that fork itself at soon as it start

gentle moss
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yeah

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but because of their malicious nature you'll have to look it up yourself

solid pollen
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Yep

scarlet zodiac
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oh lol

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its basically like lolbombs

solid pollen
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Although are they really dangerous, apart from potentially crashing the machine?

scarlet zodiac
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I thought it had to do with github yoj

solid pollen
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Lolbombs are more like DDoS attacks

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Spam a service with thousands of packets, so it can't work properly anymore

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BTW, my school has been the target of a DDoS attack since December 11th, the school just told us

gentle moss
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they're not really dangerous beyond resource exhaustion

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it's DoS if it's not distributed btw Akarys

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so a lolbomb would just be a DoS

scarlet zodiac
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hows that one with zipped files called

gentle moss
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zip bomb

scarlet zodiac
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I'm a genius tbh

gentle moss
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"lol bombs" are also called XML bombs

scarlet zodiac
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LMAO

solid pollen
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From the definition of the lolbomb that I've found, multiple persons are spamming one person

gentle moss
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huh?

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that's not accurate

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it's an attack on XML parsers afaik

solid pollen
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Oh

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Fuck you amp

undone berry
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I will be doing Jackbox yeah

gentle moss
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that's not a lol bomb

undone berry
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if @sand goblet is definitely running it?

gentle moss
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that's just spamming people

solid pollen
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Yeah I looked up for XML bomb, works better haha

gentle moss
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it's just because "lol" is the common example of an XML bomb

scarlet zodiac
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so, what are you guys doing in this godless year of 2020

sand goblet
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@undone berry If all goes to plan, yes

gentle moss
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i'm at work.

scarlet zodiac
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and typing on discord smh

gentle moss
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it's a saturday, not much going on :3

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messing about with celery.

gentle moss
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ooooh, a single ticket.

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arrrgggg

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exchange 2016.

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why did they make the admin panel a web app

solid pollen
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Because it is faster to develop and then cost less, and it is microsoft? roothink

gentle moss
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it already integrates with AD and they already had something else that worked.

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i suspect it's because of Office 365

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time to get better at exchange shell i think

gentle moss
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@undone berry the reference to my last codejam qual comment

undone berry
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icht nichten lichten I fuckin died for some reason

gentle moss
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:D

gentle moss
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you ever watched The Day Today?

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i highly recommend it

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the news stings are fucking chefkiss

undone berry
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Based on the clip above it looks fantastic. But I can't find any easy way to watch it

gentle moss
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whole eps should be on youtube

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oh nice, a whole ESXi host has gone offline

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that's...

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way not sESXi.

pine vector
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bisk is doing Celery. i'm doing RQ. what're the chances... biskthink

gentle moss
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i am currently wtfing over this ESXi host

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a reboot fixed it but whhhhy did it crash

pine vector
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it was hungry? ESXi.mode = Tamagotchi

gentle moss
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hah

undone berry
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@gentle moss what was that website that made like cyberpunk posters

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not cyber punk but synthwave or something

gentle moss
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Just Google it

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I'm playing the games atm

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Retro poster generator or something

zinc sail
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@modern island what part of "no" isn't clear?

modern island
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tame terrace
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@modern island we don't shrug at admins when they tell us what's up.

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we say oh yeah sorry about that you're right posting a forkbomb is pretty stupid I won't do that again.

jagged fog
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forkbomb?

rough sapphire
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a process which forks itself recursively

sand goblet
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Yeah, absolutely no forkbombs

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Someone will run it and then wonder why they can't use their machine anymore

vestal briar
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Tried to make one in bash as short as I could figure out without looking online, ah well

modern island
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@tame terrace yeah, alright, sorry

golden walrus
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so this is the staff chat now

rough sapphire
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Yes

modern island
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yup

golden walrus
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there are more users than usual

rough sapphire
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am I staff

golden walrus
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the administration went wild

terse sluice
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hey guys, my admin role got taken away for some reason

rough sapphire
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yes

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I'm still able to access staff chat though

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Can I have my admin role back ty

terse sluice
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yeah i'm going to need admin back to be able to administrate chat

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and execute wrongdoers

rough sapphire
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yes

rough sapphire
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I'd like some cheese fries and a shake

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What is a cheese fry

terse sluice
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wha-

rough sapphire
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Animal style

rough sapphire
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!ban Tron 20y

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wrong prefix

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Requesting to be an admin

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So I can "check something"

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yes

oak tangle
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There's nothing wrong with the prefix there

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We use ! for @royal lake

vestal briar
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Hey fellow staff, looks like I got my ban permissions removed

modern island
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@vestal briar pithink

rough sapphire
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hello fellow stafferino.. I have the same issue

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must be some kind of bug...

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@rough sapphire I saw that.. duckyninja

near hill
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why dont you make these channels like in "Together Java" that it says "free" when a channel is free, and nothing when occupied?

tired osprey
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there is the !free fetaure

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but sure one could probably build it like that, make an issue in the github

rough sapphire
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discord rate limiting .

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unlikely to trigger that but still

oak tangle
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@near hill There's a project for another help channel system.

placid torrent
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@oak tangle isnt the java system a bot that checks the last msg on each channel, and if has been a while, the bot changes the channel name?

oak tangle
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@placid torrent Probably, that sounds like the way to do it.

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We've considered similar systems, but they have some drawbacks

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We've got something else in mind, though

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It needs to be implemented and then taken for a trial period

solid pollen
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Is it the "one channel per person" system, or something totally different?

oak tangle
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That's part of it. There's a rough design, but I'm currently not at home, so it's a bit difficult to discuss it right now

worn ginkgo
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Staff chat?

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why can i type here?

sand goblet
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It's just a name

terse sluice
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we're all staff

sand goblet
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Names are changed automatically every day

terse sluice
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woah

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from what i hear, he's a nice guy

wheat lynx
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What is the best way to put multiple bootable OSs on a USB stick

spiral smelt
wheat lynx
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Looks perfect, thanks

spiral smelt
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np

solid pollen
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Okay guys, I just started to do some very Cty stuff, and that is fa being my understanding. I have the following piece of code

int main() {
    // Initialized stack limit
    mp_stack_set_limit(40000 * (BYTES_PER_WORD / 4));
    // Initialize heap
    gc_init(heap, heap + sizeof(heap));
    // Initialize interpreter
    mp_init();

    const char str[] = "print('Hello world of easy embedding!')";
    if (execute_from_str(str)) {
        printf("Error\n");
    }
}```and I want to be able to use the first command line argument instead of the constant `str`, so I did this
```c
int main(char *argv[]) {
    // Initialized stack limit
    mp_stack_set_limit(40000 * (BYTES_PER_WORD / 4));
    // Initialize heap
    gc_init(heap, heap + sizeof(heap));
    // Initialize interpreter
    mp_init();

    // char str[] = argv[1];
    if (execute_from_str(argv[0])) {
        printf("Error\n");
  }
}```Which (surprise) does not work at all, but do you have any idea what my stupid mistake is?
solid pollen
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@rough sapphire really? Posting in one ot channel is enough

sand goblet
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I just saw that in ot2, yeah

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it's gone now though

rough sapphire
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no you didnt

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: p

sand goblet
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Staff do keep logs!

rough sapphire
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oh then you did

sand goblet
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haha

solid pollen
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You just ninja-ed my C related question though :/

rough sapphire
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yup

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i dont understand a shit

sand goblet
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that's how you know it's C

solid pollen
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Me too, that's the problem

rough sapphire
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tf is C

sand goblet
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What do you mean it doesn't work?

solid pollen
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segmentation fault (core dumped)

sand goblet
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I can't begin to say what the problem could be

solid pollen
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Wdym? I am that bad at C?

sand goblet
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No, I just don't know C

#

I do know a guy that knows C, but he's not here

#

hang on

solid pollen
#

Ah okay :D

sand goblet
#

nah, he's probably busy actually

#

he's coming to my house on saturday though

#

so if it isn't solved by then

#

haha

solid pollen
#

I hope it will be haha

rough sapphire
#

@solid pollen Use a debugger. argv[0] is the program name

#

you're just loading the program name in memory and trying to execute that as what I can assume is a function, which is UD.

sand goblet
#

you mean UB?

#

or is UD something else

stark prawn
#

urban dictionary.

sand goblet
#

undefined dichotomy

rough sapphire
#

@sand goblet *UB

#

typo :p

sand goblet
#

haha, alright

stark prawn
#

Universiteits Bibliotheek.

solid pollen
#

Ultimate boomers

#

Time to google how debuggers works I guess

rough sapphire
#

you probably want argv[1] instead of 0

#

beware that each word is a separate null-terminated value in argv (unless spaces are escaped)

#

so use quotes

stark prawn
#

It should be noted that argv[0] holds the name of the program itself and argv[1] is a pointer to the first command line argument supplied

solid pollen
#

Quotes? Where? On the command line call?

stark prawn
#

I see argc, argv used everyhere.

rough sapphire
#

./myprog "this entire thing is in argv[1]" argv[2] argv[3]

solid pollen
#

Okay

rough sapphire
#

you should also include argc and check it before doing anything with argv

stark prawn
#

argv stands for argument vector, til

solid pollen
#

Okay, I just needed to add argc to the function signature

#

Weird but okay

#

Cheers!

terse sluice
#

argc is the arg count which goes before argv

rough sapphire
#

oh yeah, I missed that it was missing from the signature entirely

#

that's.. probably not healthy

shell spear
#

zoMg I have staff chat acces Yes

#

Also I just got a BBC micro:bit go today

#

I'm quite happy

rough sapphire
#

"zomg" is not something I've heard in a long time

golden walrus
#

@rough sapphire since I suppose you're somewhat used to programming in C, is the C workflow as bad as people say?

rough sapphire
#

that word brings back nostalgia

#

like the days of xanga

#

@rough sapphire lol

#

@golden walrus people say the C workflow is bad?

golden walrus
#

I've heard quite a few times it's "slow", like you need to do a bunch of small tasks

#

and I did work with C many many years ago in college

#

it wasn't horrible but it wasn't pleasant, I feel I would need to automate some things

shell spear
#

hello

rough sapphire
#

Haven't noticed that. Sure, it's slower than Python (which is why I prefer it over C for prototyping and scripting), but vscode (my C editor of choice) has excellent integration, even with some pretty unorthodox makefiles

#

makes any difference negligible to me imho

#

But you do need to be seasoned for this to hold true, I suppose

golden walrus
#

I see

#

writing headers was a bit of a chore

rough sapphire
#

I prefer headers, tbh

#

I find them extremely convenient when browsing foreign code, for example. Makes using libraries easy, as you have the function signature and its return type (and usually comments) in one place

jagged fog
#

I've built my c extension, it's kinda working. It tests whether the passed number is prime or not. When I import the module to Python and test some big primes it works and is fast. But if I put it in loop Python just crashes with no message.

# Crash
for i in range(1, 50):
    is_prime(i)

# Works
is_prime(982451653)

If I decrease the for loop to just 20 then it works but anything over it crashes.
Idk why would this happen.

rough sapphire
#

you probably have a memory leak

jagged fog
#

ye I googled and they said that but I have no idea how or where pepe_cry

#

it's not even a big function

#

where could leak happen

static PyObject *method_is_prime(PyObject *self, PyObject *args){
    int number, i = 2;
    if(!PyArg_ParseTuple(args, "K", &number)){
        return NULL;
    }
    if (number < 2){
        return Py_False;
    }
    for (;i<sqrt(number)+1; i++){
        if (number%i == 0){
            return Py_False;
        }
    }
    return Py_True;
};
frosty berry
#

@jagged fog you might need to decref args after using it

jagged fog
#

oh oke I'll try.

frosty berry
#

(if that's the wrong idea you'll get a segfault 😆)

jagged fog
#

I tried playing with it but no bueno

#

still just same crash

frosty berry
#

well, time for gdb i guess 🙂

#

you'll need to build python with debug symbols, and same for your extension, and then start it, when it segfault you should get a traceback and which line caused it

jagged fog
#

pepe_sweaty
oki thanks I'll look that up.

terse sluice
golden walrus
#

me every day

frosty berry
#

something i'd wanted to do for some time, used xargs to paralellize my tool that scans the network to find my tv and send commands to it 😄 sequencial scan was too long even with a short timeout, now it's the duration of one timeout, not of the accumulated timeouts, and i can allow for a longer timeout rather than a value dangerously close to the minimum 🙂 ```sh
probe() {
curl -X GET http://:56790$NETWORK$1/dd.xml --connect-timeout 0,5
}

find_tv() {
IP=1
INC=32
export -f probe
export NETWORK

while true
do
    # use xargs to try connecting to a bunch of addresses at the
    # same time, if any succeed we'll get its ip in "res"

    # for each ip in the bunch
    # start a bash process to run a probe on the ip if successful,
    # echo the ip
    res=$(
        seq $IP $((IP + INC)) \
        | xargs -n1 -P $INC -I {} bash -c \
            'probe "$@" >& /dev/null && echo $1' \
            _ {}
    )
    if [ $res ]
    then
         echo "$res"
         break
    fi
    IP=$(((IP + INC) % 128))
done

}

echo "looking for tv"
IP=$(find_tv)
echo "found TV on $IP"

#

(yes, i also have a python/kivy version to use on my phone, but i like the bash version to use in cli on my laptop)

rough sapphire
#

I would love to git revert my day

jagged fog
#

@frosty berry ah thanks for decref tip I didn't know it was a thing. I actually needed to INCREF for all of my bools but your advice led me to the right path. Danke

twilit tartan
#

does anyone know how to use an fx cg50 calculator

ebon vessel
#

Does kaggle own the source code if you compete?

#

I am guessing no, but I can't find it under their FAQ either

frosty berry
#

@jagged fog ah, Py_True and Py_False? I didn' t think it was needed, seems like these should be special singletons…

sinful copper
#

the weird thing is, they are statically allocated

#

i guess there's no way to bypass the refcount machinery for static objects

#

same with py_none

jagged fog
#

Yes I though the same but after adding that it works flawlessly

#

Docs mention it but I'm blind without examples

frosty berry
#

i guess if you use them without doing the incref, maybe they automatically get a decref at the end of the function, and as soon as you get to 0, despite a lot of things still requiring them, you get a crash.

gentle moss
#

o no my beard fell off

solid pollen
#

NOOOOOOO

gentle moss
#

yes.

#

it was too thick and springy

#

and it sprung off my face

rough sapphire
#

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#

at least now i am not alone without beard :-:

gentle moss
#

oh i still beard

#

just less beard

rough sapphire
#

So you see where the problem started
That smile
That Damn smile

gentle moss
#

except there aren't 13 reasons why

#

there was 1 reason why

#

it was too thicc

#

i grew it back to prove it's too thicc

#

that's how you grow a beard btw

#

you furrow your brow and force it out

rough sapphire
#

Ahh i am too young for a beard still have a patchy beard

#

that got shaved off cuz i had a nasal operation a day before yesterday

gentle moss
#

it's been growing like this since i was 14, sometimes genetics.

#

oof

#

well, keep trying at beard

#

sometimes there's always an inbetween phase

#

even if it is patchy, maybe it looks good when it grows out

#

who knows

rough sapphire
#

my mom hate my beard

#

forces me to get it removed

#

but keep my mustache

#

and yeah i don't shave i do whats called is removed by zero blade

gentle moss
#

whaaaaaaaaaat

#

well if you can grow a full stash

#

maybe you should own it

#

go full marc rebillet

#

he's the man

solid pollen
#

Can I git revert your beard?

rough sapphire
#

My barber says should i put blade on it , it will grow better if i say yes and put blade i have to continuously shave
which i really can't cuz i am a school boy

gentle moss
#

cutting a beard doesn't make it grow faster

rough sapphire
#

make it less patchy

gentle moss
#

that's not how beards work though

#

shit, might need some @tame terrace beard backup

#

i looked up beards / shaving so much when i started going clean shaven

#

there is so much to know about beards

#

growth directions, growth speeds in different areas, how to trim them to keep them neat, all sorts

#

today was the laziest of beard trims. the one size all over.

#

i just noticed that my bottom lip beard looks like it's greying

#

hrmph

frosty berry
#

a pair of scissors also attaked my beard last night, but to be fair it was starting to get wild, needed a bit of taming

tame terrace
#

shaving does not make a beard grow faster. that idea is absurd. it's like saying eating more meals makes you lose weight.

#

wanna grow a long beard? all you gotta do is nothing

#

now keep doing that for a year or two and your beard will be long.

rough sapphire
#

I think you know what is zero blade ?

tame terrace
#

sorry, no.

gentle moss
#

i think it's like an old timey razor

tame terrace
#

like a shaving knife?

#

btw @gentle moss I do not approve of your trim, your beard was just starting to look interesting and then you went and ruined it.

gentle moss
#

it was too much

#

i could not deal with it

vapid bluff
#

did it itch constantly

gentle moss
#

no, it was pushing into my face when i was laying down

tame terrace
#

it's itchier when it's shorter

gentle moss
#

because it curls it makes springs

tame terrace
#

mine gets caught in zippers now

#

sucks

gentle moss
#

haha

tame terrace
#

every time I close my god damn jacket

#

it's also difficult to drink from the tap without getting my entire beard wet

#

cause the beard kinda pools into the sink

gentle moss
#

nice

#

but you don't get the spring uncomfort

rough sapphire
#

no zero blade is like a shaver

gentle moss
#

that's a unique beard problem

rough sapphire
#

but not any sharp object like a knife

tame terrace
#

the "spring uncomfort" stops happening at a certain length.

gentle moss
#

to uniquely springy beards

#

we've been through this, it NEVER STOPS

#

it turns into a mattress of hair

tame terrace
#

it also helps if your beard is soft enough.

gentle moss
#

coils on coils

tame terrace
#

sure doesn't look like it

rough sapphire
#

if you don't wanna shave on daily basis and get your beard tight , you use zero blade

tame terrace
#

I still don't really understand what that means

rough sapphire
#

v

#

do you use this for shaving ?

gentle moss
#

that's just an old timey razor

rough sapphire
#

this is not a zero blade

solid pollen
#

I have the one blade from Philips it is quite handy

gentle moss
#

i've looked up zero blade

sand goblet
#

Sounds like something from an anime

rough sapphire
#

this is a zero blade

solid pollen
#

No, it is a one blade

gentle moss
#

wtf is that

#

weird shit

rough sapphire
#

wait

gentle moss
#

i wouldn't put that near my face

solid pollen
#

It is pretty handy tbh

sand goblet
#

The One Blade

#

The master razor

frosty berry
#

@rough sapphire i have one of these old times, and i don't shave often, but now i don't shave anymore, i just trim

gentle moss
#

the best way to shave is a single blade razor

#

and do 3 passes

#

with the grain, across the grain, and then against the grain

rough sapphire
gentle moss
#

wtf is that advertising

rough sapphire
#

I don't know whats its called online but in locality it is called zero blade

#

no its

#

not

gentle moss
#

"LOVE HURTS, SHAVE YOUR BEARD"

frosty berry
#

i trim with scissors, it doesn't hurt at all

sand goblet
#

I shave electric

#

Doing it right is too much work

rough sapphire
#

nice OTN I Shave electric

sand goblet
#

Haha

gentle moss
#

i scissor my moustache but i hair clipper my beard

tame terrace
#

my beard is far too important to entrust to my own clumsy hands. I only let professionals trim it.

gentle moss
#

hipster

sand goblet
#

Touché

gentle moss
#

learn your beard

#

MASTER your beard

tame terrace
#

I'm good at other things. for some reason I've never been particularly motivated to master hairdressing.

#

but hey, if that's your thing, good for you

#

I can afford the 30 euros a month I spend at my barber

vapid bluff
#

with the grain, across the grain, and then against the grain ymmv... the only time i can safely do against the grain shaving is when the hair is longer. short + against the grain = lower face becomes pimples galore for a week.

gentle moss
#

just because you lose the change in your beard and the hairdresser takes it

tame terrace
#

with the grain, across the grain, and then against the grain
This sounds like a terrible idea.

#

against the grain shaving is widely considered to be a bad idea.

gentle moss
#

it's how you're supposed to clean shave to perfection

#

you've gotta use the right shit

#

need to make sure you've moistened the hairs so they're softer etc

tame terrace
#

a shave that clean looks unsettling

#

that's some serial killer shit

gentle moss
#

yes. i looked weird for like 4 months while temp working for a corp

gentle moss
#

it's like that weird smooth. skin should nearly always have hair

rough sapphire
#

OMG, if i have to sit through another telephone interview with some who is going to waffle their way through every answer with bearly understandable nonsense, i'm gonna scream.

frosty berry
#

that's how you get maximum smoothness, but yeah, it's easy to cut yourself this way

gentle moss
#

i got super good at it

#

and looked super weird

#

lemon is right, that level of shaven is so unnatural

frosty berry
#

Tyrell Wellick smooth

wooden silo
#

Swedish manbaby smooth

solid pollen
#

Starting at exactly 39:00 haha

rough sapphire
#

@gritty mulch nice name

gritty mulch
#

Thankyou. It came out of my brain

solid pollen
#

Can you change it please?

rough sapphire
#

I really don't think it goes against any rules tho

solid pollen
#

Excuse me?

#

It does

rough sapphire
#

The word Racism is not racist

#

wait how do you have 2 steam account linked at same time @gritty mulch

gritty mulch
#

Add them

#

Idk

#

I think it's just allowed for you to have two

solid pollen
#

Rule 2 of the nickname policy No slurs or other offensive sentiments, it is an offensive semtiment IMO

rough sapphire
#

it's not offensive at all
at least for me

frosty berry
#

i find it unsettling too

rough sapphire
#

@plucky ridge you say is that offensive ?

undone berry
#

If theres an argument about whether its offensive name. It probably is

gritty mulch
#

I don't find that to be a fair assesment

frosty berry
#

i was on the fence about saying something about it first time i saw it

rough sapphire
#

If that is offensive then mentioning it also should be offensive

undone berry
#

And even if not offensive, its definitely cunty

gritty mulch
#

As it means very little to me anyhow I may as well

#

But I don't agree with you

plucky ridge
#

I mean at this point, if it's causing this much of a fuss

#

Yeah

#

I'm not really in agreement that it's offensive

#

But at this point, to save me some headache, would you change it to something less touchy?

rough sapphire
#

@gritty mulch change it

plucky ridge
#

AG, you're not a mod

#

Your concerns have been brought to the staff's attention, we're addressing it

frosty berry
#

it's probably easier to find something else than to debate if that's really offensive, the fact is that racism is a bad thing, i think we can agree on that, and making a bad joke is probably not worth the ambiguity

plucky ridge
#

Let's not mob on this

frosty berry
#

right

undone berry
#

*If that is offensive then mentioning it also should be offensive " is the dumbest argument. He's not trying to provide insight or discussion with a name like that, just trying to bait people

plucky ridge
#

Which you guys are falling right in to

undone berry
#

Yeah

plucky ridge
#

Again, move on, I'm addressing it

rough sapphire
#

ok i think that was actually stupid argument

undone berry
#

I don't mind being baited occasionally

rough sapphire
#

Do apes have 5 fingers or 4 ?

#

apes or monkey

frosty berry
#

i'm an ape, i have 10 fingers

rough sapphire
#

on each hand*

#

is that 8 fingers 2 thumb or
10 fingers ?

frosty berry
#

i'm pretty sure thumbs are fingers

gentle moss
#

they're not

#

thumbs are digits

rough sapphire
#

I get so much mocked on this one

gentle moss
#

fingers are digits

#

fingers are not thumbs

gritty mulch
#

@undone berry I don't like that accusation

undone berry
#

Alright

gritty mulch
#

I could say the same for you. Piers Morgan is a twat

plucky ridge
#

It's done and over with

rough sapphire
#
A thumb is a digit, but not technically a finger. Many people don't make the distinction between thumbs and other digits.
``` google says this
gentle moss
#

"having 10 thumbs" is a way to say someone is useless with their hands

plucky ridge
#

If you guys continue this there will be infractions handed out

#

Alright?

rough sapphire
#

Roger

frosty berry
#

ok

undone berry
#

Yeah. This name is to bait people, although less extremely than yours

plucky ridge
#

Now back to the monkey hands

rough sapphire
#

Dont make me laugh

frosty berry
#

thumbs are cool though, but 10 is probably too many of them

plucky ridge
#

Says you

gentle moss
#

don't be a ten thumb thomas

plucky ridge
#

Honestly just having thumbs on the opposite side of the hand as well would be rad

gentle moss
#

fuck, i just made ten thumb thomas up

#

i thought it was a saying

rough sapphire
#

isn't it ?

gentle moss
#

it's not.

plucky ridge
#

Yeah seemed legit and British

rough sapphire
#

is cunt a slur in UK ?

gentle moss
#

i guess i'm so british that i'm creating british

#

wow

#

mod alarm

rough sapphire
#

oof

gentle moss
#

yes, it's a slur but it's used in a jovial manner most of the time

#

not like in the US where it's a serious slur

plucky ridge
#

But still pings us, yes

gentle moss
#

i had trouble being in NYC

plucky ridge
#

Soooo

rough sapphire
#

Sorry mods

gentle moss
#

yeah, pydis has trained me not to use that word as much as i used to

#

:P

gritty mulch
#

I say it more than I should

#

Or well maybe it's fine

#

I live here

gentle moss
#

it's just as bad as fuck, shit, piss, etc

#

but some nations haven't caught up to the UK in terms of using abuse against each other

rough sapphire
#

I don't even speak english still one of the first slur that comes in my mind when am angry

undone berry
#

I feel like the UK gets insults pretty much perfect

#

Such a rainbow of choices

rough sapphire
#

It suits their accents TBH

gentle moss
#

plus, if you're british, you know when you're being called something in hate

#

rather than in jest

#

delivery is important

plucky ridge
#

Said the doctor to the woman in labor

gentle moss
#

rofl

rough sapphire
#

DONT

#

MAKE ME LAUGH

gentle moss
#

did they give her a C-word section?

rough sapphire
#

sorry for caps

plucky ridge
#

Oh dude

gentle moss
#

AG, better leave discord

plucky ridge
#

Oh don't worry, I'm sure my jokes will start to fall flat here shortly

rough sapphire
#

my nose is hurting now
FUCK

plucky ridge
#

I'm confused how those are related

gentle moss
#

funnily enough we discussed something in ot0 that could help with that

#

he's had surgery

plucky ridge
#

Ohhh right right

gentle moss
#

get yourself some lidocaine AG

#

smear it all around the inside of your nose loads

#

will numb it to fuck

rough sapphire
#

My nose is blocked

#

literally blocked by cottons

gentle moss
#

oh

#

soak the cottons in lidocaine

#

<_<

plucky ridge
#

That sounds horrible

rough sapphire
#

I will just snuck up some anaesthesia

gentle moss
#

i used to swill lidocaine before going to the dentist

#

would numb the shit out of my mouth

rough sapphire
#

drugs with some extra steps

plucky ridge
#

I mean not really

#

It's an over the counter drug

#

Not all drugs are the bad ones

gentle moss
#

lidocaine is of the same family as the bad one

plucky ridge
#

A drug is simply something that has an affect on the body

gentle moss
#

numbing effects, increased heart rate, vaso-constrictor

#

no high

plucky ridge
#

Didn't know about the increased heart rate bit

#

Interesting

gentle moss
#

yeah, it causes an adrenaline rush

rough sapphire
#

increased heart rate is what people also enjoys

gentle moss
#

not on its own

#

imagine your heart just suddenly beating twice as fast

undone berry
#

A drug is simply something that has an affect on the body.

That definition always seemed waaaay to broad to me. It seems like it includes food and water to me

gentle moss
#

for no reason

#

it's not nice

plucky ridge
#

Had that

rough sapphire
#

is that pinging mods ?

plucky ridge
#

Which

#

Drug?

rough sapphire
#

yes

plucky ridge
#

No

gentle moss
#

lidocaine is what they use at the dentist to numb you

rough sapphire
#

nice we can talk about drugs

gentle moss
#

and it causes me to freak the fuck out because it causes an adrenaline rush

#

which triggers fight or flight stuff

plucky ridge
#

I thought it was novacaine

gentle moss
#

novacaine isn't used anymore iirc

plucky ridge
#

Oh huh

#

That was the one they had to inject, right?

#

Where as lido is the one what can be used topically?

rough sapphire
#

Like the thing they put by injections ?

gentle moss
#

lido can be injected

#

nova can be injected

rough sapphire
#

anything can be injected if you're brave enough

gentle moss
#

i think nova fell out of use because it had more adverse reactions

plucky ridge
#

PAIGE NO

rough sapphire
#

STOP

plucky ridge
#

Makes sense

gentle moss
#

i think you could still get high of novacaine

#

definitely not with lidocaine

rough sapphire
#

Still my nose is blocked so no use

plucky ridge
#

Would be an odd choice

gentle moss
#

also it has a shorter half life in the body

#

so good for dentistry

plucky ridge
#

So like

#

One of the expansions

gentle moss
#

fuck sake

plucky ridge
#

Most likely Blue Shift?

gentle moss
#

sdjkghvnskduighn;ef/zj]

#

bastard

#

i was typing that

plucky ridge
#

HA

#

What was it, Blue Shift and...

gentle moss
#

p.s. i really enjoyed blue shift

plucky ridge
#

Opposing Forces?

gentle moss
#

Opposing Forces

plucky ridge
#

Oh same

#

Blue Shift was my fave

rough sapphire
#

Hemu did it first

#

ha

plucky ridge
#

I think I liked it more than the original

gentle moss
#

i liked how the 2 expansions gave you different perspectives

frosty berry
#

i have basicaly no recollection of blue shift i think, only some of opposing forces

gentle moss
#

and just being a regular security guard was like

plucky ridge
#

Exactly

gentle moss
#

chef kiss

#

what else you got

rough sapphire
#

what is blue shift ?

plucky ridge
#

Weren't you specifically Barney?

gentle moss
#

no.

#

just a rando

rough sapphire
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I don't wanna google it

plucky ridge
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Ah, gotcha

frosty berry
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an half life extension

plucky ridge
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^

rough sapphire
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ahh

plucky ridge
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Also a more complicated thing in physics

rough sapphire
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valve half life ?

plucky ridge
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Yes

gentle moss
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Half Life had you playing as a materials scientist in a research lab who then turns into a world saving super man

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Opposing Forces was a marine who was trying to shut down the whole thing

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Blue Shift was just you doing your job

plucky ridge
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Exactly

gentle moss
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checking badges and doing rounds

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then BAM

plucky ridge
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That's what I loved about it

gentle moss
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ALIENS

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MARINES

rough sapphire
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never knew about it
What am i doing with my life

gentle moss
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WEIRD FREEMAN GUY

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being young

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that's what you're doing

rough sapphire
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;-;

gentle moss
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don't worry, we were being young when we discovered these things too

frosty berry
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"surrender freeman!"

plucky ridge
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Back when Sierra was like "eh, fuck it, let's make expansions for these games"

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Hellfire, THAT was good

gentle moss
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they were both pretty good

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the expansions

rough sapphire
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still no episode 3 for hl2

gentle moss
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^makes me mad

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"with episodic content we'll be able to bring you more of the story more often"

plucky ridge
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I don't think I ever beat HL2

gentle moss
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FUCK OFF

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whaaaaaaaat

plucky ridge
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I really didn't like it that much after Ravenholm

gentle moss
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i loved ravenholm

plucky ridge
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That was the highlight for me

rough sapphire
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I never did beat it
its color scheme make my mind hurt

plucky ridge
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What

gentle moss
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and speed running i managed to finish that whole section in like 2 minutes 30

plucky ridge
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How the crap

frosty berry
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hl2 is nice

rough sapphire
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yeah hl2 color scheme

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it hurts me

gentle moss
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flying allowed for big skips

plucky ridge
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HL2 as a game hasn't aged super well

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Oh right, the barrel jumping

frosty berry
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i beat it on wine, it was hell, at some point, it was freezing every few steps i did wrong (some place on the beach)

gentle moss
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no, beyond that

frosty berry
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had to save every step

gentle moss
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if you "pick up" an object and put it under your feet

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you're standing on something

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so you can jump

plucky ridge
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Right

gentle moss
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then the object follows you

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and you can jump

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so you can literally fly around levels

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different objects are better at this than others

rough sapphire
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only if you spam it

plucky ridge
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Well sure

gentle moss
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duh

rough sapphire
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if not it falls down

gentle moss
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yes

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i am acutely aware of this

rough sapphire
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GRAVITY

gentle moss
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i took the click out of my mouse's mouse wheel

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then added weights

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so i could do one big spin and spam jump

rough sapphire
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🎵 Gravity its working 🎵

plucky ridge
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That's

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Huh

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Never thought of that

gentle moss
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i also used old Joysticks with "turbo mode"

plucky ridge
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So jump was assigned to the wheel itself?

gentle moss
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yes

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turbo mode was neat. it basically spammed the keypress ever ~75ms or so

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so i'd have my foot on a joystick button

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and when i needed to do a rapid uphill bhop or fly

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i'd press it with mah tooooes

plucky ridge
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The lengths we went to

gentle moss
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SDA eventually said "well i guess using AHK to replicate that isn't tool assist"

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then revoked that

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so a whole run became tool assist rather than "natural"

plucky ridge
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That's crazy

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The power some people have

gentle moss
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well the difference is minor on a segmented run between the tool and the hardware

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SO minor

plucky ridge
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On segmented sure

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On a single segment that can be days of work

gentle moss
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yeah, that was the argument put forward

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on segmented it just means taking more time to release the same thing

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p.s. that's how i did ravenholm in under 3 mins

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segmented

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memorised that shit back to front

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drop down stairs loading zone, pick up saw blade, kill zombie, bunnyhop down other steps, look left, shoot cinderblock off the post so it rebounds under my feet, climb up wall

plucky ridge
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I'm trying to think if there's anything I've memorized to that amount of completeness

gentle moss
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i probably played HL2 SP daily for about 2 years

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maybe 2 1/2

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the physics engine was a fun toy

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if you gravity gun'd a physics object before trying to wallclimb (flying against a wall) with it

rough sapphire
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i still play it really frequently

gentle moss
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it'd make you climb faster

rough sapphire
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ABH is fun

gentle moss
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because the physics object was "unstable"

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at least that's how i'd put it

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discovered that one 👌

plucky ridge
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I like that bonking NPC's heads makes the move faster

gentle moss
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it skips them to the next AI node

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because they're trapped

plucky ridge
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I love it

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-bonk- -zooooooom-

gentle moss
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literaly teleport

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early HL2 versions had a good bunnyhop too

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every jump added velocity

plucky ridge
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"No, bad Alyx, go over there" -bonkbonkbonk-

gentle moss
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so if you spammed jump fast enough up a ramp

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you'd gain SO MUCH speed

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and floor clips are everywhere

rough sapphire
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now we have ABH

gentle moss
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backward hop

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smells like wee

rough sapphire
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engine tries to stop bunnyhopping by adding negative velocity

gentle moss
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yes

rough sapphire
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however there's no lower limit

gentle moss
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it was a HILARIOUS fix

rough sapphire
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so if you turn around, it just keeps accelerating you backwards

plucky ridge
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They make interesting choices in their designs

gentle moss
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there was many lol's in the speed running community when they threw that patch in

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runners had to do runs on a locked version so essentially had to pirate it

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too many run breaking patches

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an annoying problem that never used to exist, i guess

rough sapphire
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had to pirate it

steam should include the option to revert to earlier patches of a game

gentle moss
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i agree

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i'd love to play HL2 unpatched again

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but i have to steal it

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but i guess i own it so...

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fair use

rough sapphire
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you wouldn't download a half life

gentle moss
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you would download a half life

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schrodinger's half life

rough sapphire
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well cs go have that feature

gentle moss
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cs:go can't have that feature

rough sapphire
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it does

gentle moss
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it doesn't.

rough sapphire
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under BETA selection

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its for when you wanna view old demoes

gentle moss
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can you select any previous patch level of cs:go and view it?

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yeah but that's because of changes to the netcode