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gentle moss
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i'm probably thinking of the fact i didn't want to uhhhhh

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"solve" the non-polar elements

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OOOOH

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it was naphtha

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not alcohol

plucky ridge
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Ah ha

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That makes more sense

gentle moss
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okay so now what is a kcup

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like nespresso i guess?

plucky ridge
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Yeah essentially

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It's for a Keurig

gentle moss
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ahhhh

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the things everyone was smashing

plucky ridge
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...I guess?

gentle moss
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goooood times

plucky ridge
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You mean like with a hammer?

gentle moss
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nah like throwing them off balconies and shit

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Sean Hannity encouraged it

plucky ridge
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Of course he did

gentle moss
plucky ridge
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What a child

gentle moss
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they pulled the advertising because on his radio show he suggested that Roy Moore wasn't that bad of a guy and that some of those girls consented

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like...

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eek.

plucky ridge
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And people wonder why I have an anxiety disorder

gentle moss
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so basically people smashing coffee machines in... support of a sex offender?

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weird shit.

plucky ridge
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Nope

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It's against the liberal commies

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Obvs

gentle moss
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not drinking coffee to own the libs

plucky ridge
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God just thinking about that whole thing has me exhausted...

vapid bluff
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well bisk. coffee is brown after all.

plucky ridge
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I want to go back to me not having to worry about it all

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And just be playing Super Mario RPG

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And Mega Man X

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And Earthbound

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And Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest (fuck you it's fun and the music is great)

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I need to see if I can find another copy of Uniracers...

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That game was great

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Weird but great

gentle moss
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yeah

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as they say, ignorance is bliss

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speaking of, been reading chunks of "How Linux Works" from No Starch Press

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i was not aware that less is just a newer version of more

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or that more was a thing

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and that is a clever naming joke i approve of

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"huh? where's more on this system..."

plucky ridge
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Wait wait wait

gentle moss
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"no, less is more."

plucky ridge
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Okay, can you explain it in a way that doesn't have us going through a whole "Whose on first" bit?

gentle moss
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:D

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on older unix systems what we call less was called more

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someone changed some shit, made it better

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and had the fucking brilliant idea of calling it less

plucky ridge
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Istanbul not Constantinople, okay, with you so far

gentle moss
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i always thought it was called less because you wanted to see less of a file

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no

plucky ridge
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Yes

gentle moss
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it's some fucking 70's programmer shitting on us with a joke

plucky ridge
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It was Constantinople, but now it's Istanbul

gentle moss
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it's instanbul not constantinople

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AND OOOLLLLD NEWW YORK

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WAS ONCE CALLED NEW AMSTERDAM

plucky ridge
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šŸŽ¶ Why they changed it, I can't say šŸŽ¶

gentle moss
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maybe people just liked it better that way

plucky ridge
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Such a good song

gentle moss
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yeah

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They Might Be Giants?

plucky ridge
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Yep

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But they were only doing it as a cover, believe it or not

gentle moss
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oooh

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it's uuhhhm

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Lehrer?

plucky ridge
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The original song came out in the like.... 50's?

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No I don't think so

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Hold on

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It was a group called "The Four Lads"

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Yep, 1953

gentle moss
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interesting

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Birdhouse in your soul is still my favourite though

plucky ridge
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Flood was such a good album

gentle moss
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you know, i don't think i've listened to a whole album of theirs

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stick that on the list

plucky ridge
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There are some songs on Flood that are kind of eh

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But John Henry and Apollo 19 are great

gentle moss
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can't put all the master pieces on one album

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unless you're stevie wonder

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then you do it like 6 times in a row

plucky ridge
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Their self titled album was good (that was their first), Mink Car was stellar

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The Spine was really really good

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Factory Showroom was amazing

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I may be a little obsessed

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I need to buy some of their newer albums, I'm way behind

gentle moss
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apparently less is better than more, and maybe ALSO why it was called less, is because it loads a file in chunks

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where as more loaded the whole file

plucky ridge
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It could only be better if the guy who made it was named Lester

gentle moss
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Lester Less Moore

plucky ridge
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Yuuuuuuuussssss

gentle moss
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history of these tiny programs we rely on all the time is kind of interesting

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and to think, the individuals that made the initial contributions will fade into history in favour of the monolith

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thinking in that scope makes me anxious

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like i should do more stuff idk.

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lots of this linux book covers shit i already know but there are many little gems in it i can't not read those bits

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oh no, wait, i found a section i can skip: "Text Editors"

sinful copper
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I thought it was called less because it could reliably scroll up and previous pagers couldn't

gentle moss
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ooooh

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i never noticed that

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and here's why

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more is often just a link of less

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there's a MOST?!

plucky ridge
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Is there a least?

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Or none?

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Or all?

gentle moss
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cat is all

vestal briar
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Iron Maiden sounds more like speed metal than heavy

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Guess it's power metal?

pine vector
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or is it Original Metal? back before there were sub-genres...

vestal briar
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Wikpedia says it's heavy metal

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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

pine vector
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yes. i don't think Swedish Death Metal was a thing in the 80's... šŸ˜„

vestal briar
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I don't mean sabaton specifically

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Might be mixing doom and/or death metal with heavy metal

pine vector
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my only point was that when Maiden were making music, there weren't exactly sub-genres of metal.

vestal briar
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Yeah

rough sapphire
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I dunno.. ABBA was pretty deadly

vestal briar
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They are the only 2 sweedish bands I know of

lone lily
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šŸ¤”

sand goblet
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That's an interesting article

plucky ridge
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YOU'RE an interesting article!

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I'm sorry that was uncalled for

vestal briar
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Heard that name but can't recall any songs

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On phone in a bus so no sound

plucky ridge
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It's worth watching and listening to later

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I promise you that

jagged fog
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ah the best music

vestal briar
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Ahhh

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Marble machine

plucky ridge
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Japp

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(I think that's "yep" in Swedish")

vestal briar
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Yep, yep is japp

lost skiff
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import fruits
banana = fruits.Banana()
skyPotato = fruits.Potato(sky=True)

banana == skyPotato -----> True
vapid bluff
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this freakin impeachment hearing

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a$ap rocky has been mentioned like 15 times

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what a time to be alive

lost skiff
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who?

vapid bluff
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he's a rapper

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got arrested in sweden for some assault thing

lost skiff
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epic

rough sapphire
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jap in estonian

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pronounced "yup"

sand goblet
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That video is just IRL animusic, c'mon

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haha

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really quite impressive

oak tangle
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What's the relevance of some unknown rapper to the hearings, @vapid bluff?

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(I've never heard of them)

vapid bluff
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something about how he talked with trump about asap rocky and for some reason this jogged his memory

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cause trump was gonna lobby sweden to get him released

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honestly i have no idea

oak tangle
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Ah, the EU ambassador

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right?

vapid bluff
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yep

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sondland

sand goblet
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is trump giving evidence at his own impeachment like he said he would? haha

oak tangle
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Trump rarely does what he promises, so I doubt it

sand goblet
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hahaha

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yeah, ain't that the truth

vapid bluff
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this is kinda tiring to keep up with

sand goblet
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I bet

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there must be a liveblog somewhere

vapid bluff
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i just realised i barely remember any of it

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even though ive been watching since the start

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oh yeah he didnt mince words at least

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straight up said everyone involved was in on it

sand goblet
vapid bluff
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and confirmed there was a quid pro quo

sand goblet
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there's a liveblog a little way down the page

oak tangle
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I did not expect anything else, really

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The guy's basically in everything for his own profit

plucky ridge
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And yet his devote followers think he's a prophet

oak tangle
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Didn't he donate to the Trump campaign to receive this kind of benefit

sand goblet
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Nunes used part of his questioning to ask Sondland if he was part of the ā€œthree amigosā€ — a nickname for the alleged shadow policy team in Ukraine of Sondland, Perry and Volker.

ā€œI’m a proud member of the three amigos,ā€ Volker replied, smiling.

Nunes responded, ā€œand that’s the same thing Ambassador Volker said yesterday.ā€

Actually, it’s not.

Volker, in fact, said, ā€œI never used that term — and frankly cringe when I hear it.ā€

ā€œFor me, the ā€˜three amigos’ will always refer to Sen. John McCain, Sen. Joseph Lieberman and Sen. Lindsey Graham, in reference to their work to support the surge in Iraq,ā€ Volker said Tuesday.

Volker added that he was ā€œnever awareā€ of ā€œany designation by Trump or anyone elseā€ putting himself, Sondland or Perry ā€œor the three of us as a group in charge of Ukraine policy.ā€

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that is.. quite the thing

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and also very inconsistent

vapid bluff
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nunes is.. i dont even know what his deal is

solid pollen
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Talking politics again? 😁

vapid bluff
sand goblet
lilac glade
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Oh, look at all that history.

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Literal history in the making.

gentle moss
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i've got C-SPAN on my TV

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listening to the callers during the break

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some of it is hilarious

plucky ridge
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I'm afraid to ask

gentle moss
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nah, they're just really dumb things

vapid bluff
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i prefer the streams where they just show the room during the break

gentle moss
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one guy was an angry guy who worked in the steel industry for 40 years and went on a rant about how there's so much division

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and that he was gonna start a podcast from his living room on youtube

plucky ridge
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More power to ya, brotha

gentle moss
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another person suggested that the whole testimony today was really one-sided and unfair to republicans

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when asked what was one-sided he said he didn't know

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someone else started spouting qanon theories and was prematurely cut off

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the face of the reporters that have to handle these calls can be hilarious

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"aw shit not this again..."

plucky ridge
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I hope they have a good way to destress

gentle moss
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apparently there are a lot of nice bars in Washington

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:P

vapid bluff
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shit someone's left their camera on the ground

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it's gonna get stepped on

gentle moss
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hahaha

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sometimes watching the camera men flounder is hilarious

vapid bluff
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rip

gentle moss
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i remember one time i think it was during the kavanaugh thing

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the cspan camera man was just zooming in really really really slowly

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and panning up

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"oh hey, i'm watching a ceiling now"

vapid bluff
gentle moss
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:D

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looks like a Nikon?

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maybe a D series

vapid bluff
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whatever it is its in danger

gentle moss
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someone's about to step on ~Ā£500 of camera

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god damn, there are SO MANY cameras

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just a quick count i got maybe ~35

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excluding video

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pointed at one man

vapid bluff
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these chairs look real comfy

gentle moss
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ikr

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but imagine the butt groove in them

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how old must they be

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how many butts has that chair supported?

vapid bluff
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many historical butts

gentle moss
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i wonder how often they get reupholstered

vapid bluff
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i really want some list that shows who all the staffers are, and who the witnesses bring with them. doesnt seem to be available anywhere 😦

gentle moss
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they're generally their lawyer

vapid bluff
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twin lawyer in vindman's case šŸ˜„

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sorry lt colonel vindman*

gentle moss
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i'd want a shitload of lawyers if i was in this situation

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i'd also not want to be in this situation ever

vapid bluff
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are the tables behind the witnesses new or just me?

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seemed like there only used to be benches

gentle moss
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i think it's just you

vapid bluff
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never noticed them before

gentle moss
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are you thinking of the other chamber and a different hearing?

vapid bluff
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probably

gentle moss
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big ol' building

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(that the british burned to the ground once)

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HAHA

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they're talking about A$AP

vapid bluff
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god damn it

gentle moss
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aw, it was just a mention

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boo

vapid bluff
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i cant

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lmao

gentle moss
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A$AP Rocky is, once again, in the written history of the united states of america

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i love the fact that some really dumb shit ends up in the library of congress

vapid bluff
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this is now like the 20th time this hearing he's been mentioned

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incredible

gentle moss
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hahaha

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imagine like

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400 years from now

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some archivist is digging through the archives

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"who is this ASAP Rocky? why the as soon as possible?"

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cause there's no way they're putting the dollar into the transcript

vapid bluff
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hehe yes

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one day a history teacher will have to explain who asap rocky is

undone berry
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no they won't

gentle moss
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don't forget that all of trumpo the clowns tweets are also being stored indefinitely

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so there are much dumber things

undone berry
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Look back at the 30s and all the shit that gets ignored and brushed over

vapid bluff
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ok, might have to* explain

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better?

gentle moss
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we also didn't have easily searchable digital records back then

undone berry
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Sure, but there is stuff we have perfect records of that we don't track

gentle moss
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true

undone berry
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newspapers have been going strong for hundreds of years

gentle moss
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awwww.... he said "fig" instead of fuck

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that's cute

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"did not give a fig about ukraine, fig wasn't the word used there."

vapid bluff
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oh my god. this is terrible. this is the end of my presidency. i'm figged.

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AGAIn

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A$AP ROCKY COUNT GOES UP AGAIN

gentle moss
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hahaha

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i sort of want to search the congressional database to find all references to rappers

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and see who has the highest count

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oh god it's Jim Jordan. this fella.

vapid bluff
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gym jordan

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twitch chat going wild

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every time he comes on

gentle moss
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he's pretty uhhh....

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weird in his lines of questioning

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ahhh, now he's basically repeating Trump's statement to the press about an hour ago

vapid bluff
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jordan and nunes' only job here is to produce fox news soundbites

gentle moss
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yerp

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oh okay his argument is that ukraine got military aid for being invaded by russia and the US got nothing

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annnnnnnnd, no question or real point

gentle moss
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ooooooh SICK BURN

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"that article has 3 pinocchios though."
"yeah well the president has 5 pinocchios on a daily basis."

vapid bluff
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imagine paying a million bucks for a ticket

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thats like 5 trips to space with virgin galactic

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much better ticket

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and significantly less chance of being dragged into impeachment

gentle moss
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haha

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i keep hearing "The Ukraine" while i'm doing the washing up

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and i just wince

rough sapphire
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the europe

gentle moss
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haha, windows noises

sand goblet
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Ring ring ring ring, sky potato phoooone

gentle moss
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bling bling bling

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that's an advisory prompt for W10 isn't it?

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i turn all notif noises off

vapid bluff
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someone trying to increase volume past max

gentle moss
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haha

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richest country in the world

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can't play video clips

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didn't pray to the demo gods

vapid bluff
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dont be putting Liechtenstein down like that now

gentle moss
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:D

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i thought the comment about the call not being on speaker phone and in the open air

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we've all overheard loud phonecalls in a public place

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ahhh jim jordan. straight into qanon.

plucky ridge
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Ah HA. Found it

gentle moss
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HELLO? YEAH. I'M IN THE LIBRARY. YEAH, IT'S JUST FULL OF BOOKS AND SHIT.

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i remember watching trigger happy when i was a kid

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Dom Joly reasonably amusing

vapid bluff
gentle moss
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haha

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"they got the money didn't they?! THEY GOT THE MONEY THIS IS AMERICA. i yield."

plucky ridge
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yield from this_meeting

gentle moss
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gets caught stealing a TV

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"oh this? no i was just going to put it over here...."

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"i forgot to pay for it!"

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etc etc

vapid bluff
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who cares if this child got kidnapped they gave him back eventually!

gentle moss
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haha

plucky ridge
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Free babysitting

gentle moss
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rofl

plucky ridge
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Hey man, child care is expensive

gentle moss
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"no no no, i didn't kidnap this child. i thought the parents were unfit so i wanted to do due diligence. i gave it back."

plucky ridge
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I love how we're saying it

vapid bluff
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only after i got caught tho!

plucky ridge
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Like they're handing the kid back while it's dangling from the leg

gentle moss
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haha

plucky ridge
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"Fuckin'... take it back"

gentle moss
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"what do you mean i kidnapped the child to pressure the parents to give me a promotion at work?"

plucky ridge
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"Dude, I kidnapped a child. WHY do you think I have a steady job?"

gentle moss
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:D

plucky ridge
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I have been terribly unproductive today

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I hate it

gentle moss
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i was going in that direction but ended up doing some work on my cube and washing up

plucky ridge
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Cube?

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We talking like the movie or...

gentle moss
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i'm making a cube to house a raspberry pi AIY Voice kit for my dumb alexa project

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i started it way back in the summer

plucky ridge
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Very cool

gentle moss
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been sat on a shelf for ages

plucky ridge
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I like that the name is actually going to be "Dumb Alexa":
"Hey, Dumb Alexa, what's the forecast for today."
"Shoes"

gentle moss
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gonna have wooden panels on it, similar dark walnut on them, with brass screws

plucky ridge
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Oh huh, I don't know why I was imagining a plastic jobber

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The staining looks nice

gentle moss
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only the feet will be visible on the frame

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but i want to protect the wood

plucky ridge
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Ahhh, that makes sense

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Okay what else do I see... OJ, Bailey's....

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Or is that

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What's next to the varnish

gentle moss
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the clear stuff?

plucky ridge
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Between the OJ and the varnish in the picture

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The stained picture

gentle moss
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oh that's ghost pepper and carolina reaper vodka

plucky ridge
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HA

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Dude, that sounds like a vodka I'd actually try

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Wait wait wait

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Are you making screwdrivers with that?

gentle moss
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no, it's too fucking lethal

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i use it for cooking

plucky ridge
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You know you want to try it

gentle moss
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i have

plucky ridge
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What was your balance?

gentle moss
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there's like 6 carolina reapers in there and 6 ghost peppers

plucky ridge
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I would have gone like

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1 part vodka and 3 parts OJ with something that strong

gentle moss
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dude

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if you put 25ml of that in 500ml of water

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it's STILL deadly hot

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this stuff is pretty much pepper spray

plucky ridge
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What's the Scoville rating?

gentle moss
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well a reaper is about 1.5m

plucky ridge
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Oh right, alcohol makes it worse

gentle moss
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not just that but it infuses

plucky ridge
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Also I've had hotter stuff

gentle moss
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this stuff is literally like pepper spray

plucky ridge
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Hold on, can't remember the exact amount

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Ah, yeah, thought so

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9 mil

gentle moss
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9 mil must be an extract or literal pepper spray

plucky ridge
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Extract

gentle moss
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cause pepperspray iirc comes in at 2-3m

plucky ridge
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It was for a chocolate

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"Burn or Bliss"

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It's like russian roulette

gentle moss
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ah so it wasn't just straight heat

plucky ridge
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Nah

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Although I have done the Toe of Satan

gentle moss
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i previously had a scotch bonnet infused vodka

plucky ridge
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Which IS straight heat

gentle moss
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that's about as high as i'd go for a drink

plucky ridge
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I think I'd be more keen to do a drink than a food stuff

gentle moss
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i like hot stuff but i really didn't expect the power of this shit

plucky ridge
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I mean yeah, it's a dare food

gentle moss
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my mum gave it to me and i didn't look in the bottle

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i assumed it was strawberry

plucky ridge
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HA

gentle moss
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had a big ol' swig straight out the bottle

plucky ridge
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Your mom is a champ

gentle moss
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she keeps trying to find my heat limit with chillis

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con carne

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and hasn't hit it yet

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so i guess this was her trump card

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i tried to do a double shot of this stuff and literally barfed it straight back up

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i'd love to see someone else who loves hot food try it

plucky ridge
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I guarantee you my wife and I would

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Although yeah, never on an empty stomach

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You'd want potatoes or bread to soak it up so your stomach doesn't freak out

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Or potato bread

gentle moss
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every time i look at it i'm like "yeah it was hot... but that hot?"

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then open the bottle and have a sniff

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"ah yeah fuck that."

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makes the last dab seem like ketchup :D

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ASAP ROCKY AGAIN @vapid bluff

plucky ridge
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Sheesh

vapid bluff
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hahahahahahahahahaa

plucky ridge
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To both statements

gentle moss
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i think this is all i'm tuned in for now

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listening out for ASAP

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yeah, when i make a hot chilli con carne i usually use about 500g of meat

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and i'd use a single shot of that vodka to add heat

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along with some actual dried reaper and bhut

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gf doesn't like me making chilli for me because "it smells delicious but it hurts so bad"

plucky ridge
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I really only do the hot stuff for dare food

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Like I enjoy a bit of kick but I feel like there's a point where I'm no longer enjoying the food and just doing it because I can, you know?

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And I'm too old and jaded to be doing that to myself

gentle moss
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i love the feeling of a high heat chilli

plucky ridge
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How about other burns? Horseradish specifically

gentle moss
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one that you can actually feel burn its way through your digestive tract

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don't really use horseradish in my cooking tbh

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meta, that lol joke

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questioner: "what's referred to as the Gordon problem..."
gordon: "that's what my wife calls me."

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classic wife humour

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oh Nunes, you're such a joke.

plucky ridge
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-his wife from the back of the room- "He's right, I do"

gentle moss
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:D

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"and i said, that's no quid pro quo, that's my wife!"

vapid bluff
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i hate sondland's smirk

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he's too bemused

gentle moss
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i'm not sure how i'd feel if i was him

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he's clearly a trump supporter type and to come out and do this must be weird

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i imagine he does feel bemused

vapid bluff
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because he got wind that he was gonna be the fall guy

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now he's just covering his ass

gentle moss
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probably

vapid bluff
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and like maloney said

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it took three tries

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even now, he might not be totally truthful

gentle moss
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it'd be interesting to see the state department release some of those documents

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i mean if there's nothing bad in there why wouldn't you?

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the only excuse is the whole "it's clearly a witch hunt" type thing

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same reason a bunch of others wont testify

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ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

gentle moss
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aw shit. i'm out of dijon AND wholegrain mustard

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only english mustard :|

undone berry
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the best mustard

oak tangle
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you normally only have three types of mustard in your pantry?

gentle moss
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normally i have 4

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Coleman's English, Dijon, Wholegrain and French's squirty mustard for hotdogs

undone berry
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What purpose does mustard have besides occasional sandwhiches?

gentle moss
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mash potato

undone berry
#

And maybe something like roast beef

gentle moss
#

burger

undone berry
#

French's squirty mustard for hotdogs awful

gentle moss
#

ikr but sometimes you just gotta trash tier

undone berry
#

mustard on a burgar is not great

gentle moss
#

dijon on a burger is pretty nice

#

i wouldn't put english mustard on a burger

undone berry
#

I don't really know if I've had Dijon

gentle moss
#

way less sharp than english

#

wholegrain is excellent to put in mash potato

undone berry
#

Mashed potato is best with obscene amounts of gravy poured over it

#

preferably with a pie

gentle moss
#

agreed

#

well

#

usually what i do is make a well in the mash potato

#

and make a little gravy lake

#

try to eat around it and dip stuff in the lake

undone berry
#

yes

#

that is the way forwards

gentle moss
#

until the structural integrity fails

#

AND THE DAM BURSTS

#

HUNDREDS OF PEAS DROWNED

#

OOOHHH THE shit i had something for this

#

THINK OF THE PEAPLE

#

that'll do

undone berry
#

I genuinely laughed

gentle moss
#

:D

undone berry
#

at how rubbish/not-rubbish it is simultaneously

gentle moss
#

"hundreds of peaple drowned in an incident recently in the sausage village when the mash potato dam burst and gravy flooded the town."

#

sausage village does not...

#

sound so great.

#

i remember once hanging out with a friend and she had a massive sack of potato she'd forgotten about

#

i spent like an hour or so cutting out all the eyes and turning it into cheesy mash

#

then we spent a good 45 minutes shaping it into a castle and building a gravy moat

#

ah the things you do when you're bored

undone berry
#

I'm fantasising about mashed potatoes now

oak tangle
#

Mustard is amazing

gentle moss
#

i have 1.5kg of it in my freezer right now

#

250g per tub

oak tangle
#

And, yes, you can make amazing sauces for burgers that contain mustard

gentle moss
#

it's like a warmth not a heat

oak tangle
#

In fact, you've probably had burgers with a sauce with mustard, since it's one of the most commonly used ingredients

gentle moss
#

burger sauce šŸ‘Œ

oak tangle
#

Anyway, mustard's also great with potatoes, if you mash them for instance

undone berry
#

Burger sauce to me means the orangey mayonaisey almost certainly cancer-inducing stuff you get at kebab shops

gentle moss
#

this stuff is pretty good

undone berry
#

Burgers are fine - and fast food burgers are good - but very rarely if i'm going out to eat would my choice be a burger

oak tangle
#

A lot of orangy mayonnaise stuff may contain mustard as well

gentle moss
#

nor mine, due to the whole bun and gluten thing

undone berry
#

I'm pretty sure it doesn't contain mustard

#

That does seem an issue

#

Get a cauliflower bun

#

everything is made out of cauliflower these days

gentle moss
#

i usually just make burgers at home

#

cast iron pan that shit

#

nom nom nom

oak tangle
#

Yes, that's what I do as well

#

Not the cast iron pan

#

But, same idea

gentle moss
#

i do bring home a mcdonald's burger sometimes, with no bun, and then just pimp the shit out of it

#

before the GoT finale i made some crazy fucking double quarter pounder that almost made me explode

undone berry
#

At least there was something good about it then

gentle moss
#

hah

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mmmm, 250g of meat

#

idk how many calories it was but every bite felt like a heart attack waiting to happen

undone berry
#

looks phenomenal

vestal briar
#

Mm

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We have nothing in so it was just mash, beans and some strange saussage roll

gentle moss
#

i can't quite decide on what to eat yet. seems a bit late for anything big though

sand goblet
#

@tulip palm SimGretina has just privated all of their old MLP music and some other stuff thanks to YT's new rules on coppa regulation

#

this is sad day

tulip palm
#

yikes, that's no good

sand goblet
#

Did you see the email YT sent out RE this a while ago?

tulip palm
#

yeah i've heard about it

sinful copper
#

i didn't even know the minecraft server had been up

#

oh well

sand goblet
#

It's been up for a long time

#

Haha

glass gorge
#

Hello people

#

I am stuck lecturing again

rough sapphire
#

what subject? @glass gorge

glass gorge
#

Introduction to programming with python

fallen sparrow
#

That's nice

#

My uni did introduction to programming with Haskell lol

glass gorge
#

i had that this semester

#

but ditched it cause it was too much work to do with a full time job + my other studies + lecturing

fallen sparrow
#

You had it or taught it?

glass gorge
#

But nicely said this course is a shitshow imo

#

Had it

#

Was learning haskell

fallen sparrow
#

Honestly I think it leveled the playing field for those with no experience because everyone had to re-learn how to program functionally šŸ˜„

#

So it wasn't a bad idea

glass gorge
#

It deffo wasn't a bad course

#

a little old fashioned, but I simple did not have time for it

#

ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

fallen sparrow
#

Yeah fair

#

What uni if you don't mind me asking

sand goblet
#

Sometimes I wonder whats up with the reactions to android beta updates on the Discord tester server

#

Haha

dusky orchid
#

isn't that what happens on any server with enough people and having reactions enabled?

fallen sparrow
#

lol that's basically every server. This is the first one I've seen that locks down reactions so much

sand goblet
#

They just seem out of place, haha

#

New apk: TURKEY

#

New hotfix: TRANS

fallen sparrow
#

I see buttons, I press them

sand goblet
#

What's more impressive is they managed to get the letters there together, haha

dusky orchid
#

yeah that's harder to do when there's a ton of people

fallen sparrow
#

Good thing someone here told me about shift click

sand goblet
#

Yeah, 81k members

#

Less than you'd think with the sweet new dark theme on android

fallen sparrow
#

I've been using custom roms for so long I didn't even know that. Had dark theme since the beginning

sand goblet
#

Is that apk modding or

#

I guess substratum

#

Which I do have but on android 10 there are like no themes for it

fallen sparrow
#

Yeah that. Every dev seems to have their own thing for themes

#

What's the deal with 10, haven't kept up

sand goblet
#

It's really nice but developer support isn't there yet

#

But we do have magisk and we kind of have twrp

#

I say kind of because most of the time it doesn't decrypt

fallen sparrow
#

Ah yep I had to use some custom twrp to work with encryption

#

I'm still on 9 though

sand goblet
#

Fair

#

I have a OnePlus so I'm on stock oxygenos

#

The updater detects root and downloads a full installer for upgrade rather than an OTA

#

Really nice

fallen sparrow
#

Interesting

sand goblet
#

Then you install it and tell magisk to patch it before you reboot

#

Nice and easy.

#

I wish twrp worked properly though

#

I'm sure they'll fix it eventually

solid pollen
#

Unlocking the bootloader doesn’t stop OTA?

sand goblet
#

Nope

solid pollen
#

I know it does on asus phones

sand goblet
#

It does give you a scary warning when you reboot

#

But that's a Google requirement

#

OnePlus is ricer friendly

solid pollen
#

For sure if i unlock the bootloader of my phone, i cannot update it anymore..

#

Which.. make me sad

sand goblet
#

Need a new ROM then!

#

I hear lineageos is nice this time of year

fallen sparrow
#

That's my main problem with custom roms. Have to keep hopping around to get security updates. Though maybe that's because I have a 4 year old phone

sand goblet
#

That's why I recommend lineage really

#

Used to be known as cyanogen

fallen sparrow
#

Lineage isn't maintained for my device anymore (officially that is)

sand goblet
#

Old device?

fallen sparrow
#

Yeah Redmi Note 3 (4 years)

solid pollen
#

But i love the stock android..

fallen sparrow
#

Lineage is basically stock

solid pollen
#

Hmm yeah it look like the stock android..

#

what change then?

fallen sparrow
#

Well extra personalisation features I think. And I guess if you're switching to custom roms you want root and all that

solid pollen
#

Hmm

#

@sand goblet you run lineage?

fallen sparrow
#

But if you still have official support and a good manufacturer then there's not too many reasons

solid pollen
#

Support is.. meh

#

update are slow because of qualcomm

sand goblet
#

@solid pollen I run oxygen

#

OnePlus stock

#

Although I rooted it ofc

solid pollen
#

Hu lineage doesn't use stock app

#

Which.. Are pretty good imo

#

Hmm you need to wipe the phone and thing, to lazy to do it

sand goblet
#

I mean yeah it's an OS reinstall

#

You can install Google apps yourself if you want them

solid pollen
#

What’s the point in that case? Rooting?

sand goblet
#

In what case? @solid pollen

#

You mean the OS not coming with gapps?

#

Firstly not everyone wants them

#

Secondly they can't do that due to Google's regulations

#

Google apps include the play store so you'd have everything you're used to if you did install them

solid pollen
#

I mean, if I install it and reinstall stock apps

sand goblet
#

You'd have a modern Android on your phone with no carrier or manufacturer bloat and full customisation possibilities?

#

You can root, use substratum, use xposed, whatever

solid pollen
#

I dunno, I feel like it is going to be a huge mess

rough sapphire
#

been thinking of de-gappsifying my Oxygen

#

really don't use gapps that often to have it all deeply rooted within my phone's OS

#

and no google apps which require support from a system level (ie I don't use android pay or anything like that)

vestal briar
#

Going to be booting linage on my phone

rough sapphire
#

feelscringe lineage

vestal briar
#

ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

#

Friend has it and looks decent

rough sapphire
#

what phone?

fallen sparrow
#

xposed was a pain when I had it (can't remember exactly why), Magisk is very nice to have though

rough sapphire
#

magisk is great (as an end-user and as a pentester :) )

sand goblet
#

magisk is a great alternative to xposed, too

#

but not everyone is writing magisk modules

fallen sparrow
#

What do you use xposed for

rough sapphire
#

@sand goblet ehhh.... they do different things

sand goblet
#

I don't, no xposed support for android 10

fallen sparrow
#

I think I had xprivacylua, but I got tired micro managing each app lol

rough sapphire
#

in a nutshell, xposed hooks, magisk overlays

vestal briar
#

Better than the huawei stock

sand goblet
#

I didn't hate huawei stock

rough sapphire
#

i DESPISE huawei stock

fallen sparrow
#

I have a Xiaomi, got rid of miui so fast

sand goblet
#

miui I can understand

#

it's full of ads

#

huawei stock would be nicer rooted

#

but that's basically not a thing

solid pollen
#

Huawei stock is garbage

#

But Samsung stock is worst

rough sapphire
#

what's the deal with chicken stock..

gentle moss
#

it's delicious

rough sapphire
#

I mean.. why do they need to sell it at stores.. am I right..

gentle moss
#

makes good gravy

rough sapphire
#

samsung stock is a lot, lot better than what it used to be

#

touchwizz... *shudder*

gentle moss
#

samsung stock is a bit too spicy

solid pollen
#

But it is still garbage

gentle moss
#

very burny

#

tbh i really dislike the Samsung android

#

then again i've been using a nexus 5 since they came out

rough sapphire
#

your nexus 5 is still alive?

#

damn

gentle moss
#

yerp

#

latest thing to break: if you take the phone away from your ear it doesn't reenable the screen mid call

sand goblet
#

samsung android is pretty garbage still

#

it's not as bad as it was, but it's still bad

#

my parents both have note 10s

gentle moss
#

i suspect this is due to the forward facing camera being a bit touchy

#

well, that's my assumption on how they figure out if the camera is at your ear

sand goblet
#

it's like hey

#

wanna turn off your phone by holding the power button?

#

well too bad

#

bixby.

gentle moss
#

hah, gf hates it

#

:D

sand goblet
#

you have to triple press the power button

gentle moss
#

but i want her phone when she upgrades

#

how well do they take flashing stock android?

sand goblet
#

this is annoying because doing that on my phone activates the emergency alert thing

#

so I have to try really hard to never need to use mom's phone

solid pollen
#

Flashing stock on Samsung? Don't think I can have an official ROM

sand goblet
#

You can

#

why you would though, I dunno

solid pollen
#

There is support for the Samsung SoC?

sand goblet
#

oh, you mean flashing AOSP

#

I think lineage does support it

#

thanks javascript

rough sapphire
#

*thanks computers

fallen sparrow
#

thanks silicon

gentle moss
#

thanks ants

#

thants

fallen sparrow
#

thanks bisk

#

why ants though šŸ¤”

sand goblet
#

It's a reference to a thing

fallen sparrow
#

oh lol

sand goblet
#

one of the otnames is thanks-ants-thants too

fallen sparrow
#

thanks dude, now I have to watch all the recommendations šŸ˜„

gentle moss
#

watch that whole Look Around You series

#

it's excellent

#

and @solid pollen, probably best to talk about that stuff in OT as to not upset the !help timer :D

#

i think all the full episodes of Look Around You are on youtube šŸ¤”

vapid bluff
#

you have to triple press the power button

#

forreal? o.o

#

s8+ you can just hold the power button

rough sapphire
#

whats this in relation to

vapid bluff
#

oh wow they did move to a single button setup

#

thats evil

fallen sparrow
#

Triple press? I thought you just had to send 'turn off' in Morse code

vapid bluff
sand goblet
#

yep that's right meta

#

holding the button down just gives you bixby

#

that thing nobody wants

#

it is configurable, but who has a parent that would bother?

vapid bluff
#

smh

rough sapphire
#

does bixby still exist

sand goblet
#

unfortunately

rough sapphire
#

the question why comes to mind.. lol.. I don't think they're still developing new features for it are they..

solid pollen
#

Hmm Bixby or Cortana? 😁

fallen sparrow
#

Personally I think Windows Vista Speech Recognition is superior

vapid bluff
#

imo samsung had a pretty solid run from 2017-2019. the s8 was a breath of fresh air. i was pretty happy with mine til this year. then they started bucking to apple's trends and the s10/note 10 are incredible disappointments comparison to their predecessors. and the update to pie was a total botch. they literally broke the camera app and removed all the pro features.

rough sapphire
#

the thing with voice assistants is.. local competitors in most developed countries are doing their own thing.. LG and Samsung have much better products for their local markets in Korea

sand goblet
#

I just don't understand bixby

#

it's bad

#

it's dumb

#

and yet

solid pollen
#

Like Cortana

sand goblet
#

samsung are sort of putting it into everything

vapid bluff
#

it's the google+ of phone assistants

sand goblet
#

like it's not just in their phones

#

they have the galaxy home, the galaxy home mini

#

they're producing the things

#

and nobody wants it

solid pollen
#

Like Google home?

sand goblet
#

yes, but google home doesn't have bixby and is actually good

solid pollen
#

It is pretty good actually

rough sapphire
#

thank you

rough sapphire
#

is the channel name based on stadia

solid pollen
#

Channel names are random

#

They change everyday

autumn herald
#

(wooosh)

solid pollen
#

And they all have a meaning!

rough sapphire
#

yeah that github vid

#

wonder how they update to latest release

dusky orchid
#

oh that reminds me

#

anyone use the mobile github yet?

rough sapphire
#

please

#

tell me

#

that thats a joke

dusky orchid
#

there's a new one

rough sapphire
#

there is no way

#

they made a mobile app

#

is that for real..

#

the code vault

dusky orchid
#

code vault is real

rough sapphire
#

omg

#

finnaly

#

my days of using the bad ui

#

from desktop

#

on my tablet

#

are over

dusky orchid
#

that's not it is it pithink

#

yeah its not

#

it's still in beta and only available to ios

#

you gotta signup and install it yourself

rough sapphire
#

oof

#

aw

dusky orchid
rough sapphire
#

really wished for a official app

#

on android

dusky orchid
#

it's coming

rough sapphire
#

is it really...

dusky orchid
#

they're just working on ios first

#

yeah in that link they have a waiting list

#

you can sign up yourself

#

they'll send you an email when it's open

#

I'm keen to check it out

#

was just hoping someone else tried it on ios to see what they thought

rough sapphire
#

joined the wishlist

#

is there webviewer by opera like google have it default aka chrome

#

doesn't opera use the chromium webview internally anyways

#

i know opera desktop moved to blink (ie chromium engine)

sand goblet
#

Opera used to use their own, Presto

#

But it's been a heck of a long time since then

rough sapphire
#

i really wanna sync my password . from pc but dont wanna use chrome

sand goblet
#

Use a password manager like bitwarden

rough sapphire
#

those bulky extensions ?

sand goblet
#

Bulky?

rough sapphire
#

does it support password import from saved password ?

sand goblet
#

If a password manager is bulky to you, wait until you see an adblocker..

#

Yeah, most of them do

rough sapphire
#

hmm internal ad blocker hmm

sand goblet
#

Bitwarden is the best password manager I've used anyway

rough sapphire
#

i use keepassxc and use ssh to sync

gentle moss
#

Keep Ass, eXtra Clean

fallen sparrow
#

Sorry what

solid pollen
#

Hmm the PyDis github organisation enforce 2FA

#

Why not

fallen sparrow
#

No reason to not have 2FA these days. Even if it's only SMS based

solid pollen
#

I wanted to disable it because i was scrapping github api a bit, and it raise rate limits a lot if you’re logged in

#

and login with 2FA is complicated

fallen sparrow
#

I see

solid pollen
#

Well, i just used an alt-account

sand goblet
#

@fallen sparrow to be fair, if the service only supports SMS-based, that's a great reason not to have 2fa

solid pollen
#

Better than nothing I guess

fallen sparrow
#

Why is that gdude

sand goblet
#

absolutely not

#

it's worse than nothing in a lot of cases

#

because SMS is not secure whatsoever

#

it's laughably easy to intercept an SMS containing a 2fa code

#

a lot of services allow you to use an SMS token to reset your password too

#

it's not OK

fallen sparrow
#

Please elaborate on 'laughably easy'

sand goblet
#

Would you like some encryption with that burger? 'cause there ain't none

#

The mechanism though

#

it's pretty simple

#

you just need a server somewhere

#

you can pretend to be an ISP on the network, for example, maybe your phone is in Ireland, someone could pretend to be some ISP in Italy

#

then you go "OK, this number is roaming on my network, so I'll handle communication"

#

that's all there is to it really

fallen sparrow
#

ISP and server? I'm not following. How do you intercept sms with that

sand goblet
#

all you need to do is pretend to be a mobile provider in another country

#

then you tell the real provider the number is roaming on your network

rough sapphire
#

Tried Stadia on PC. It feels like magic. There's no input lag whatsoever.
Doubt

fallen sparrow
#

You mean set up a whole base station? How many people can do that

sand goblet
#

and your network will just get everything

#

it's pretty easy, from what I've heard

#

it doesn't have to be a real base station

rough sapphire
#

it's very easy

#

the equipment required is not even very expensive

solid pollen
#

No.. can’t be that easy :p

sand goblet
#

it's that easy.

rough sapphire
#

source: did this in uni

fallen sparrow
#

At least $200 ish for some SDR and you have to know what you're doing and avoid getting caught

sand goblet
#

haha, you actually did it

#

"not getting caught" is the easy part for the people that are into this stuff

fallen sparrow
#

Please do tell me about this one click LTE base station that everyone can make. I'm interested lol

sand goblet
#

I mean, you can be skeptical all you like, but when you've read as much about the pitfalls of the SMS/MMS (and related) protocols, you start to have a lot less faith in it

#

I mean let's not forget the multiple remote code execution exploits based on SMS that existed because every device met the spec correctly

fallen sparrow
#

It's not skepticism. I genuinely want to know. I enjoy reading about RF and SDR things

rough sapphire
fallen sparrow
#

That's a pretty sparse page

rough sapphire
#

it's the mitre definition page

#

you can google the id for implementations

fallen sparrow
#

Well time to pull out the IMSI detector apps again then, didn't know it's become this easy

solid pollen
#

@royal lake is definitively acting weirdly, he is supposed to update the ot names at midnight UTC, but he just updated them (at 2:53PM UTC)

fallen sparrow
#

Hmm it updated a while ago for me

#

I think it might be your client

solid pollen
#

It updated 10 minutes ago for me..

fallen sparrow
#

So it defs was on time

oak tangle
solid pollen
#

@oak tangle am I the only one to see that there is a little issue? šŸ˜„

fallen sparrow
#

You guys mean midday right?

solid pollen
#

Like.. names not being randomized..

#

No midnight

oak tangle
#

Oh, right

solid pollen
#

The bot is broken again! Yay!

oak tangle
#

Is it listing the current names or the historical names though?

solid pollen
#

Hmm maybe the current one..

fallen sparrow
#

Yeah it definitely changed

solid pollen
#

you can see the details isn’t?

oak tangle
#

yes

#

it shows changes for different names

solid pollen
#

Okay so everything’s fine

oak tangle
plucky ridge
#

I think someone accidentally scooted a channel

#

And then quickly moved it back

#

I don't think there was a name change

fallen sparrow
#

Scooted a channel lol

rough sapphire
#

no1 talking about this :c

sand goblet
#

the best part about remote play together is it doesn't give me more people to play with

rough sapphire
#

portal 3 teaser ?

rough sapphire
#

@fallen sparrow @rough sapphire Were you two talking about Stingrays/IMSI catchers?

#

yep

fallen sparrow
#

Yeah Started off with 2FA and whether SMS was better to have than nothing

rough sapphire
#

No, SMS is a joke

#

I wouldn't protect anything with 2FA SMS

fallen sparrow
#

Sure it's not great. But what is the average person's threat model\

sand goblet
#

that's faulty thought from the start

#

everyone goes "it'll never happen to me"

rough sapphire
#

Complete garbage is still garbage.

sand goblet
#

and there's no good reason for any individual to compromise their security

rough sapphire
#

@rough sapphire one man's garbage...

fallen sparrow
#

Without SMS someone can access my account if they watch me type, install a keylogger or whatever. With SMS they'd now have to build a base station and follow me around

rough sapphire
#

@rough sapphire is still garbage

#

You can't come up with a fair argument for SMS

#

@fallen sparrow What are you talking about? You don't have a password on your account... ?

fallen sparrow
#

Type + keylog the password?

rough sapphire
#

Why would you need to keylog something if most people use the same password ( or iteration thereof ) on every site, and then one of those sites gets compromised? ( Checked https://haveibeenpwned.com recently? )

fallen sparrow
#

Huh? That's not my point and yes I do check that site

#

Please explain how the situation I described is worse with SMS 2FA

rough sapphire
#

I'm saying that adding SMS to that isn't that big of a deal. If you're a target with a huge payout if you were compromised ( Bitcoin wallet or the like ), or some important person, SS7 attacks.

sand goblet
#

there's also sim swapping

#

a much less technical way to achieve the same thing

fallen sparrow
#

That's not my threat model, and I would say not most people's either

sand goblet
#

if you like podcasts

#

this is a good one

fallen sparrow
#

Something like sim swapping I'd notice immediately

sand goblet
#

hahaha

#

sure you would!

#

(spoiler: you wouldn't)

fallen sparrow
#

Em yes? My phone wouldn't work?

sand goblet
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well, so what?

fallen sparrow
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So I would fix that problem maybe

sand goblet
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is that phone plugged into your eyeballs 24/7?

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and how long do you think the attack is gonna take?

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also, how will you know what account they're trying to get?

fallen sparrow
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Well if I only had a password they would already be in the account wouldn't they

sand goblet
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well, no

fallen sparrow
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Why

sand goblet
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like I said before, a lot of sites do password reset via SMS too

fallen sparrow
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Which ones? I don't know any off the top of my head

sand goblet
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facebook, instagram, snapchat..

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Sometimes we target random people like me and you. We just target them just to see what they got, because we got their phone number. We can go, we can go on the deep web or any website, really, you know, and buy a list of phone numbers. And sometimes we do that, we’ll swap ’em, take ’em and see what they got. So it’s more of a, kind of, just pick your target. Just pick–you see a phone number online? Take it. That’s basically how it is. We go after everything. Anything that can make us a dollar, we take.

vapid bluff
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discord has sms 2fa

fallen sparrow
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I don't use the last 2 and pretty sure I only use app 2fa for facebook

sand goblet
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yes, avoiding SMS 2fa is a good idea

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that quote is from the podcast above, by the way

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they don't just talk about sim swapping - like a lot of their investigative work, they actually go to the people doing this stuff and talk to them

fallen sparrow
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Come to think of it if you want to do a sim swap on me you'd have to guess the fake birthday I put in too lol

sand goblet
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Yeah, so basically, OGs like that–OG handles, those are easy because it’s normal people like me and you. As long as I got the number, done. All I got to do is call T-Mobile, Verizon–any phone companies and you'll have it for about 24 hours before they notice, you know, it was obviously a fraud. But by the time you know that happens you've already swapped that OG handle, you've got it. It's yours. It’s done.

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doesn't sound like they would need that, no

fallen sparrow
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Where's this text from

sand goblet
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I just told you

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haha

fallen sparrow
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Oh nvm the transcript is at the bottom

sand goblet
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yeah

fallen sparrow
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I was clicking through the links

sand goblet
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you should actually listen to it though

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it's great

fallen sparrow
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Sure, sometime
What exactly do they say to this T-Mobile dude

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To be able to change SIMs

sand goblet
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Well apparently it isn't that hard, so I suspect it's nothing too crazy

gentle moss
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basic social engineering

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"aw i lost my phone and had to get a new one"

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"and i moved house."

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"new sim plz"

fallen sparrow
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lol is there no ID verification or something

gentle moss
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do you think some minimum wage worker in a call centre gives a shit?

fallen sparrow
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Here you need 100 points of ID iirc (unless you just do it via your account)

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Have fun forging driver's license and passports

gentle moss
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to get a new SIM?

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lol

fallen sparrow
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New service, and replacement (again if you don't use your account)