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...I guess?
goooood times
You mean like with a hammer?
Of course he did
What a child
they pulled the advertising because on his radio show he suggested that Roy Moore wasn't that bad of a guy and that some of those girls consented
like...
eek.
And people wonder why I have an anxiety disorder
so basically people smashing coffee machines in... support of a sex offender?
weird shit.
not drinking coffee to own the libs
God just thinking about that whole thing has me exhausted...
well bisk. coffee is brown after all.
I want to go back to me not having to worry about it all
And just be playing Super Mario RPG
And Mega Man X
And Earthbound
And Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest (fuck you it's fun and the music is great)
I need to see if I can find another copy of Uniracers...
That game was great
Weird but great
yeah
as they say, ignorance is bliss
speaking of, been reading chunks of "How Linux Works" from No Starch Press
i was not aware that less is just a newer version of more
or that more was a thing
and that is a clever naming joke i approve of
"huh? where's more on this system..."
Wait wait wait
"no, less is more."
Okay, can you explain it in a way that doesn't have us going through a whole "Whose on first" bit?
:D
on older unix systems what we call less was called more
someone changed some shit, made it better
and had the fucking brilliant idea of calling it less
Istanbul not Constantinople, okay, with you so far
Yes
it's some fucking 70's programmer shitting on us with a joke
It was Constantinople, but now it's Istanbul
it's instanbul not constantinople
AND OOOLLLLD NEWW YORK
WAS ONCE CALLED NEW AMSTERDAM
š¶ Why they changed it, I can't say š¶
maybe people just liked it better that way
Such a good song
The original song came out in the like.... 50's?
No I don't think so
Hold on
It was a group called "The Four Lads"
Yep, 1953
Flood was such a good album
you know, i don't think i've listened to a whole album of theirs
stick that on the list
There are some songs on Flood that are kind of eh
But John Henry and Apollo 19 are great
can't put all the master pieces on one album
unless you're stevie wonder
then you do it like 6 times in a row
Their self titled album was good (that was their first), Mink Car was stellar
The Spine was really really good
Factory Showroom was amazing
I may be a little obsessed
I need to buy some of their newer albums, I'm way behind
apparently less is better than more, and maybe ALSO why it was called less, is because it loads a file in chunks
where as more loaded the whole file
It could only be better if the guy who made it was named Lester
Lester Less Moore
Yuuuuuuuussssss
history of these tiny programs we rely on all the time is kind of interesting
and to think, the individuals that made the initial contributions will fade into history in favour of the monolith
thinking in that scope makes me anxious
like i should do more stuff idk.
lots of this linux book covers shit i already know but there are many little gems in it i can't not read those bits
oh no, wait, i found a section i can skip: "Text Editors"
I thought it was called less because it could reliably scroll up and previous pagers couldn't
ooooh
i never noticed that
and here's why
more is often just a link of less
there's a MOST?!
cat is all
or is it Original Metal? back before there were sub-genres...
yes. i don't think Swedish Death Metal was a thing in the 80's... š
I don't mean sabaton specifically
Might be mixing doom and/or death metal with heavy metal
my only point was that when Maiden were making music, there weren't exactly sub-genres of metal.
Yeah
I dunno.. ABBA was pretty deadly
They are the only 2 sweedish bands I know of
That's an interesting article
YOU'RE an interesting article!
I'm sorry that was uncalled for
@vestal briar What about Wintergatan? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q
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ah the best music
Yep, yep is japp
import fruits
banana = fruits.Banana()
skyPotato = fruits.Potato(sky=True)
banana == skyPotato -----> True
this freakin impeachment hearing
a$ap rocky has been mentioned like 15 times
what a time to be alive
who?
epic
What's the relevance of some unknown rapper to the hearings, @vapid bluff?
(I've never heard of them)
something about how he talked with trump about asap rocky and for some reason this jogged his memory
cause trump was gonna lobby sweden to get him released
honestly i have no idea
is trump giving evidence at his own impeachment like he said he would? haha
Trump rarely does what he promises, so I doubt it
this is kinda tiring to keep up with
i just realised i barely remember any of it
even though ive been watching since the start
oh yeah he didnt mince words at least
straight up said everyone involved was in on it
and confirmed there was a quid pro quo
there's a liveblog a little way down the page
I did not expect anything else, really
The guy's basically in everything for his own profit
And yet his devote followers think he's a prophet
Didn't he donate to the Trump campaign to receive this kind of benefit
Nunes used part of his questioning to ask Sondland if he was part of the āthree amigosā ā a nickname for the alleged shadow policy team in Ukraine of Sondland, Perry and Volker.
āIām a proud member of the three amigos,ā Volker replied, smiling.
Nunes responded, āand thatās the same thing Ambassador Volker said yesterday.ā
Actually, itās not.
Volker, in fact, said, āI never used that term ā and frankly cringe when I hear it.ā
āFor me, the āthree amigosā will always refer to Sen. John McCain, Sen. Joseph Lieberman and Sen. Lindsey Graham, in reference to their work to support the surge in Iraq,ā Volker said Tuesday.
Volker added that he was ānever awareā of āany designation by Trump or anyone elseā putting himself, Sondland or Perry āor the three of us as a group in charge of Ukraine policy.ā
that is.. quite the thing
and also very inconsistent
nunes is.. i dont even know what his deal is
Talking politics again? š
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Dems say the legal threshold for bribery has been met:
.@RepSwalwell tells @NBCNews
āSchiff-Sondland exchange revealed necessary elements to show high crimes and misdemeanors (abuse of power and extortion) and bribery.ā
#ImpeachmentHearing
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i've got C-SPAN on my TV
listening to the callers during the break
some of it is hilarious
I'm afraid to ask
nah, they're just really dumb things
i prefer the streams where they just show the room during the break
one guy was an angry guy who worked in the steel industry for 40 years and went on a rant about how there's so much division
and that he was gonna start a podcast from his living room on youtube
More power to ya, brotha
another person suggested that the whole testimony today was really one-sided and unfair to republicans
when asked what was one-sided he said he didn't know
someone else started spouting qanon theories and was prematurely cut off
the face of the reporters that have to handle these calls can be hilarious
"aw shit not this again..."
I hope they have a good way to destress
i remember one time i think it was during the kavanaugh thing
the cspan camera man was just zooming in really really really slowly
and panning up
"oh hey, i'm watching a ceiling now"
uh oh
someone's about to step on ~Ā£500 of camera
god damn, there are SO MANY cameras
just a quick count i got maybe ~35
excluding video
pointed at one man
these chairs look real comfy
ikr
but imagine the butt groove in them
how old must they be
how many butts has that chair supported?
many historical butts
i wonder how often they get reupholstered
i really want some list that shows who all the staffers are, and who the witnesses bring with them. doesnt seem to be available anywhere š¦
they're generally their lawyer
i'd want a shitload of lawyers if i was in this situation
i'd also not want to be in this situation ever
are the tables behind the witnesses new or just me?
seemed like there only used to be benches
i think it's just you
never noticed them before
are you thinking of the other chamber and a different hearing?
probably
big ol' building
(that the british burned to the ground once)

HAHA
they're talking about A$AP
god damn it
A$AP Rocky is, once again, in the written history of the united states of america
i love the fact that some really dumb shit ends up in the library of congress
hahaha
imagine like
400 years from now
some archivist is digging through the archives
"who is this ASAP Rocky? why the as soon as possible?"
cause there's no way they're putting the dollar into the transcript
no they won't
don't forget that all of trumpo the clowns tweets are also being stored indefinitely
so there are much dumber things
Look back at the 30s and all the shit that gets ignored and brushed over
we also didn't have easily searchable digital records back then
Sure, but there is stuff we have perfect records of that we don't track
true
newspapers have been going strong for hundreds of years
awwww.... he said "fig" instead of fuck
that's cute
"did not give a fig about ukraine, fig wasn't the word used there."
oh my god. this is terrible. this is the end of my presidency. i'm figged.
AGAIn
A$AP ROCKY COUNT GOES UP AGAIN
hahaha
i sort of want to search the congressional database to find all references to rappers
and see who has the highest count
oh god it's Jim Jordan. this fella.
he's pretty uhhh....
weird in his lines of questioning
ahhh, now he's basically repeating Trump's statement to the press about an hour ago
jordan and nunes' only job here is to produce fox news soundbites
yerp
oh okay his argument is that ukraine got military aid for being invaded by russia and the US got nothing
annnnnnnnd, no question or real point
ooooooh SICK BURN
"that article has 3 pinocchios though."
"yeah well the president has 5 pinocchios on a daily basis."
imagine paying a million bucks for a ticket
thats like 5 trips to space with virgin galactic
much better ticket
and significantly less chance of being dragged into impeachment
the europe
haha, windows noises
Ring ring ring ring, sky potato phoooone
bling bling bling
that's an advisory prompt for W10 isn't it?
i turn all notif noises off
someone trying to increase volume past max
haha
richest country in the world
can't play video clips
didn't pray to the demo gods
dont be putting Liechtenstein down like that now
:D
i thought the comment about the call not being on speaker phone and in the open air
we've all overheard loud phonecalls in a public place
ahhh jim jordan. straight into qanon.
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Ah HA. Found it
HELLO? YEAH. I'M IN THE LIBRARY. YEAH, IT'S JUST FULL OF BOOKS AND SHIT.
i remember watching trigger happy when i was a kid
Dom Joly reasonably amusing
This is a dedication video to the one and only OG Thug out there. Patrick "O" Gower.
haha
"they got the money didn't they?! THEY GOT THE MONEY THIS IS AMERICA. i yield."
yield from this_meeting
gets caught stealing a TV
"oh this? no i was just going to put it over here...."
"i forgot to pay for it!"
etc etc
who cares if this child got kidnapped they gave him back eventually!
haha
Free babysitting
rofl
Hey man, child care is expensive
"no no no, i didn't kidnap this child. i thought the parents were unfit so i wanted to do due diligence. i gave it back."
I love how we're saying it
only after i got caught tho!
Like they're handing the kid back while it's dangling from the leg
haha
"Fuckin'... take it back"
"what do you mean i kidnapped the child to pressure the parents to give me a promotion at work?"
"Dude, I kidnapped a child. WHY do you think I have a steady job?"
:D
i was going in that direction but ended up doing some work on my cube and washing up
i'm making a cube to house a raspberry pi AIY Voice kit for my dumb alexa project
i started it way back in the summer
Very cool
been sat on a shelf for ages
I like that the name is actually going to be "Dumb Alexa":
"Hey, Dumb Alexa, what's the forecast for today."
"Shoes"
Ahhh, that makes sense
Okay what else do I see... OJ, Bailey's....
Or is that
What's next to the varnish
the clear stuff?
oh that's ghost pepper and carolina reaper vodka
HA
Dude, that sounds like a vodka I'd actually try
Wait wait wait
Are you making screwdrivers with that?
You know you want to try it
i have
What was your balance?
there's like 6 carolina reapers in there and 6 ghost peppers
dude
if you put 25ml of that in 500ml of water
it's STILL deadly hot
this stuff is pretty much pepper spray
What's the Scoville rating?
well a reaper is about 1.5m
Oh right, alcohol makes it worse
not just that but it infuses
Also I've had hotter stuff
this stuff is literally like pepper spray
9 mil must be an extract or literal pepper spray
Extract
cause pepperspray iirc comes in at 2-3m
ah so it wasn't just straight heat
i previously had a scotch bonnet infused vodka
Which IS straight heat
that's about as high as i'd go for a drink
I think I'd be more keen to do a drink than a food stuff
i like hot stuff but i really didn't expect the power of this shit
I mean yeah, it's a dare food
HA
had a big ol' swig straight out the bottle
Your mom is a champ
she keeps trying to find my heat limit with chillis
con carne
and hasn't hit it yet
so i guess this was her trump card
i tried to do a double shot of this stuff and literally barfed it straight back up
i'd love to see someone else who loves hot food try it
I guarantee you my wife and I would
Although yeah, never on an empty stomach
You'd want potatoes or bread to soak it up so your stomach doesn't freak out
Or potato bread
every time i look at it i'm like "yeah it was hot... but that hot?"
then open the bottle and have a sniff
"ah yeah fuck that."
makes the last dab seem like ketchup :D
ASAP ROCKY AGAIN @vapid bluff
Sheesh
hahahahahahahahahaa
To both statements
i think this is all i'm tuned in for now
listening out for ASAP
yeah, when i make a hot chilli con carne i usually use about 500g of meat
and i'd use a single shot of that vodka to add heat
along with some actual dried reaper and bhut
gf doesn't like me making chilli for me because "it smells delicious but it hurts so bad"
I really only do the hot stuff for dare food
Like I enjoy a bit of kick but I feel like there's a point where I'm no longer enjoying the food and just doing it because I can, you know?
And I'm too old and jaded to be doing that to myself
i love the feeling of a high heat chilli
How about other burns? Horseradish specifically
one that you can actually feel burn its way through your digestive tract
don't really use horseradish in my cooking tbh
meta, that lol joke
questioner: "what's referred to as the Gordon problem..."
gordon: "that's what my wife calls me."
classic wife humour
oh Nunes, you're such a joke.
-his wife from the back of the room- "He's right, I do"
i'm not sure how i'd feel if i was him
he's clearly a trump supporter type and to come out and do this must be weird
i imagine he does feel bemused
because he got wind that he was gonna be the fall guy
now he's just covering his ass
probably
and like maloney said
it took three tries
even now, he might not be totally truthful
it'd be interesting to see the state department release some of those documents
i mean if there's nothing bad in there why wouldn't you?
the only excuse is the whole "it's clearly a witch hunt" type thing
same reason a bunch of others wont testify
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
the best mustard
you normally only have three types of mustard in your pantry?
normally i have 4
Coleman's English, Dijon, Wholegrain and French's squirty mustard for hotdogs
What purpose does mustard have besides occasional sandwhiches?
mash potato
And maybe something like roast beef
burger
French's squirty mustard for hotdogs awful
ikr but sometimes you just gotta trash tier
mustard on a burgar is not great
I don't really know if I've had Dijon
Mashed potato is best with obscene amounts of gravy poured over it
preferably with a pie
agreed
well
usually what i do is make a well in the mash potato
and make a little gravy lake
try to eat around it and dip stuff in the lake
until the structural integrity fails
AND THE DAM BURSTS
HUNDREDS OF PEAS DROWNED
OOOHHH THE shit i had something for this
THINK OF THE PEAPLE
that'll do
I genuinely laughed
:D
at how rubbish/not-rubbish it is simultaneously
"hundreds of peaple drowned in an incident recently in the sausage village when the mash potato dam burst and gravy flooded the town."
sausage village does not...
sound so great.
i remember once hanging out with a friend and she had a massive sack of potato she'd forgotten about
i spent like an hour or so cutting out all the eyes and turning it into cheesy mash
then we spent a good 45 minutes shaping it into a castle and building a gravy moat
ah the things you do when you're bored
I'm fantasising about mashed potatoes now
Mustard is amazing
And, yes, you can make amazing sauces for burgers that contain mustard
it's like a warmth not a heat
In fact, you've probably had burgers with a sauce with mustard, since it's one of the most commonly used ingredients
burger sauce š
Anyway, mustard's also great with potatoes, if you mash them for instance
Burger sauce to me means the orangey mayonaisey almost certainly cancer-inducing stuff you get at kebab shops
Burgers are fine - and fast food burgers are good - but very rarely if i'm going out to eat would my choice be a burger
A lot of orangy mayonnaise stuff may contain mustard as well
nor mine, due to the whole bun and gluten thing
I'm pretty sure it doesn't contain mustard
That does seem an issue
Get a cauliflower bun
everything is made out of cauliflower these days
i do bring home a mcdonald's burger sometimes, with no bun, and then just pimp the shit out of it
before the GoT finale i made some crazy fucking double quarter pounder that almost made me explode
At least there was something good about it then
hah
mmmm, 250g of meat
idk how many calories it was but every bite felt like a heart attack waiting to happen
looks phenomenal
i can't quite decide on what to eat yet. seems a bit late for anything big though
@tulip palm SimGretina has just privated all of their old MLP music and some other stuff thanks to YT's new rules on coppa regulation
this is sad day
yikes, that's no good
yeah i've heard about it
what subject? @glass gorge
Introduction to programming with python
i had that this semester
but ditched it cause it was too much work to do with a full time job + my other studies + lecturing
You had it or taught it?
Honestly I think it leveled the playing field for those with no experience because everyone had to re-learn how to program functionally š
So it wasn't a bad idea
It deffo wasn't a bad course
a little old fashioned, but I simple did not have time for it
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Sometimes I wonder whats up with the reactions to android beta updates on the Discord tester server
Haha
isn't that what happens on any server with enough people and having reactions enabled?
lol that's basically every server. This is the first one I've seen that locks down reactions so much
I see buttons, I press them
What's more impressive is they managed to get the letters there together, haha
yeah that's harder to do when there's a ton of people
Good thing someone here told me about shift click
I've been using custom roms for so long I didn't even know that. Had dark theme since the beginning
Is that apk modding or
I guess substratum
Which I do have but on android 10 there are like no themes for it
Yeah that. Every dev seems to have their own thing for themes
What's the deal with 10, haven't kept up
It's really nice but developer support isn't there yet
But we do have magisk and we kind of have twrp
I say kind of because most of the time it doesn't decrypt
Ah yep I had to use some custom twrp to work with encryption
I'm still on 9 though
Fair
I have a OnePlus so I'm on stock oxygenos
The updater detects root and downloads a full installer for upgrade rather than an OTA
Really nice
Interesting
Then you install it and tell magisk to patch it before you reboot
Nice and easy.
I wish twrp worked properly though
I'm sure they'll fix it eventually
Unlocking the bootloader doesnāt stop OTA?
Nope
I know it does on asus phones
It does give you a scary warning when you reboot
But that's a Google requirement
OnePlus is ricer friendly
For sure if i unlock the bootloader of my phone, i cannot update it anymore..
Which.. make me sad
That's my main problem with custom roms. Have to keep hopping around to get security updates. Though maybe that's because I have a 4 year old phone
Lineage isn't maintained for my device anymore (officially that is)
Old device?
Yeah Redmi Note 3 (4 years)
But i love the stock android..
Lineage is basically stock
Well extra personalisation features I think. And I guess if you're switching to custom roms you want root and all that
But if you still have official support and a good manufacturer then there's not too many reasons
Hu lineage doesn't use stock app
Which.. Are pretty good imo
Hmm you need to wipe the phone and thing, to lazy to do it
I mean yeah it's an OS reinstall
You can install Google apps yourself if you want them
Whatās the point in that case? Rooting?
In what case? @solid pollen
You mean the OS not coming with gapps?
Firstly not everyone wants them
Secondly they can't do that due to Google's regulations
Google apps include the play store so you'd have everything you're used to if you did install them
I mean, if I install it and reinstall stock apps
You'd have a modern Android on your phone with no carrier or manufacturer bloat and full customisation possibilities?
You can root, use substratum, use xposed, whatever
I dunno, I feel like it is going to be a huge mess
been thinking of de-gappsifying my Oxygen
really don't use gapps that often to have it all deeply rooted within my phone's OS
and no google apps which require support from a system level (ie I don't use android pay or anything like that)
Going to be booting linage on my phone
lineage
what phone?
xposed was a pain when I had it (can't remember exactly why), Magisk is very nice to have though
magisk is great (as an end-user and as a pentester :) )
magisk is a great alternative to xposed, too
but not everyone is writing magisk modules
What do you use xposed for
@sand goblet ehhh.... they do different things
I don't, no xposed support for android 10
I think I had xprivacylua, but I got tired micro managing each app lol
in a nutshell, xposed hooks, magisk overlays
Better than the huawei stock
I didn't hate huawei stock
i DESPISE huawei stock
I have a Xiaomi, got rid of miui so fast
miui I can understand
it's full of ads
huawei stock would be nicer rooted
but that's basically not a thing
what's the deal with chicken stock..
it's delicious
I mean.. why do they need to sell it at stores.. am I right..
makes good gravy
samsung stock is a lot, lot better than what it used to be
touchwizz... *shudder*
samsung stock is a bit too spicy
But it is still garbage
very burny
tbh i really dislike the Samsung android
then again i've been using a nexus 5 since they came out
yerp
latest thing to break: if you take the phone away from your ear it doesn't reenable the screen mid call
samsung android is pretty garbage still
it's not as bad as it was, but it's still bad
my parents both have note 10s
i suspect this is due to the forward facing camera being a bit touchy
well, that's my assumption on how they figure out if the camera is at your ear
it's like hey
wanna turn off your phone by holding the power button?
well too bad
bixby.
you have to triple press the power button
but i want her phone when she upgrades
how well do they take flashing stock android?
this is annoying because doing that on my phone activates the emergency alert thing
so I have to try really hard to never need to use mom's phone
Flashing stock on Samsung? Don't think I can have an official ROM
There is support for the Samsung SoC?
*thanks computers
thanks silicon
It's a reference to a thing
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oh lol
one of the otnames is thanks-ants-thants too
thanks dude, now I have to watch all the recommendations š
watch that whole Look Around You series
it's excellent
and @solid pollen, probably best to talk about that stuff in OT as to not upset the !help timer :D
i think all the full episodes of Look Around You are on youtube š¤
you have to triple press the power button
forreal? o.o
s8+ you can just hold the power button
whats this in relation to
Triple press? I thought you just had to send 'turn off' in Morse code

yep that's right meta
holding the button down just gives you bixby
that thing nobody wants
it is configurable, but who has a parent that would bother?
smh
does bixby still exist
unfortunately
the question why comes to mind.. lol.. I don't think they're still developing new features for it are they..
Hmm Bixby or Cortana? š
Personally I think Windows Vista Speech Recognition is superior
imo samsung had a pretty solid run from 2017-2019. the s8 was a breath of fresh air. i was pretty happy with mine til this year. then they started bucking to apple's trends and the s10/note 10 are incredible disappointments comparison to their predecessors. and the update to pie was a total botch. they literally broke the camera app and removed all the pro features.
the thing with voice assistants is.. local competitors in most developed countries are doing their own thing.. LG and Samsung have much better products for their local markets in Korea
Like Cortana
samsung are sort of putting it into everything
it's the google+ of phone assistants
like it's not just in their phones
they have the galaxy home, the galaxy home mini
they're producing the things
and nobody wants it
Like Google home?
yes, but google home doesn't have bixby and is actually good
It is pretty good actually
thank you
is the channel name based on stadia
(wooosh)
And they all have a meaning!
yeah that github vid
wonder how they update to latest release
The GitHub Arctic Code Vault is a data repository preserved in the Arctic World Archive (AWA), a very-long-term archival facility 250 meters deep in the perm...
there's a new one
code vault is real
omg
finnaly
my days of using the bad ui
from desktop
on my tablet
are over
that's not it is it 
yeah its not
it's still in beta and only available to ios
you gotta signup and install it yourself
it's coming
is it really...
they're just working on ios first
yeah in that link they have a waiting list
you can sign up yourself
they'll send you an email when it's open
I'm keen to check it out
was just hoping someone else tried it on ios to see what they thought
joined the wishlist
is there webviewer by opera like google have it default aka chrome
doesn't opera use the chromium webview internally anyways
i know opera desktop moved to blink (ie chromium engine)
i really wanna sync my password . from pc but dont wanna use chrome
Use a password manager like bitwarden
those bulky extensions ?
Bulky?
does it support password import from saved password ?
If a password manager is bulky to you, wait until you see an adblocker..
Yeah, most of them do
hmm internal ad blocker hmm
Bitwarden is the best password manager I've used anyway
i use keepassxc and use ssh to sync
Keep Ass, eXtra Clean
Sorry what
No reason to not have 2FA these days. Even if it's only SMS based
I wanted to disable it because i was scrapping github api a bit, and it raise rate limits a lot if youāre logged in
and login with 2FA is complicated
I see
Well, i just used an alt-account
Tried Stadia on PC. It feels like magic. There's no input lag whatsoever.
The app is really bad. Games look worse than they do on my base model PS4.
Conflicted.
@fallen sparrow to be fair, if the service only supports SMS-based, that's a great reason not to have 2fa
Better than nothing I guess
Why is that gdude
absolutely not
it's worse than nothing in a lot of cases
because SMS is not secure whatsoever
it's laughably easy to intercept an SMS containing a 2fa code
a lot of services allow you to use an SMS token to reset your password too
it's not OK
Please elaborate on 'laughably easy'
Would you like some encryption with that burger? 'cause there ain't none
The mechanism though
it's pretty simple
you just need a server somewhere
you can pretend to be an ISP on the network, for example, maybe your phone is in Ireland, someone could pretend to be some ISP in Italy
then you go "OK, this number is roaming on my network, so I'll handle communication"
that's all there is to it really
ISP and server? I'm not following. How do you intercept sms with that
all you need to do is pretend to be a mobile provider in another country
then you tell the real provider the number is roaming on your network
Tried Stadia on PC. It feels like magic. There's no input lag whatsoever.
You mean set up a whole base station? How many people can do that
and your network will just get everything
it's pretty easy, from what I've heard
it doesn't have to be a real base station
No.. canāt be that easy :p
it's that easy.
source: did this in uni
At least $200 ish for some SDR and you have to know what you're doing and avoid getting caught
haha, you actually did it
"not getting caught" is the easy part for the people that are into this stuff
Please do tell me about this one click LTE base station that everyone can make. I'm interested lol
I mean, you can be skeptical all you like, but when you've read as much about the pitfalls of the SMS/MMS (and related) protocols, you start to have a lot less faith in it
I mean let's not forget the multiple remote code execution exploits based on SMS that existed because every device met the spec correctly
It's not skepticism. I genuinely want to know. I enjoy reading about RF and SDR things
https://capec.mitre.org/data/definitions/617.html
Skills Required: [Level: Low]
This technique has been demonstrated by amateur hackers and commercial tools and open source projects are available to automate the attack.
Common Attack Pattern Enumeration and Classification (CAPEC) is a list of software weaknesses.
That's a pretty sparse page
Well time to pull out the IMSI detector apps again then, didn't know it's become this easy
@royal lake is definitively acting weirdly, he is supposed to update the ot names at midnight UTC, but he just updated them (at 2:53PM UTC)
It updated 10 minutes ago for me..
I made this latency joke 3 hours ago https://discordapp.com/channels/267624335836053506/291284109232308226/647047890254168072
So it defs was on time
They were updated at UTC midnight
@oak tangle am I the only one to see that there is a little issue? š
You guys mean midday right?
Oh, right
The bot is broken again! Yay!
Is it listing the current names or the historical names though?
Hmm maybe the current one..
Yeah it definitely changed
you can see the details isnāt?
Okay so everythingās fine
I think someone accidentally scooted a channel
And then quickly moved it back
I don't think there was a name change
Scooted a channel lol
Play your couch co-op games with friends over the internet, together. With Steam Remote Play Together, local multiplayer gaming is now extended to iOS and An...
no1 talking about this :c
the best part about remote play together is it doesn't give me more people to play with
portal 3 teaser ?
@fallen sparrow @rough sapphire Were you two talking about Stingrays/IMSI catchers?
yep
Yeah Started off with 2FA and whether SMS was better to have than nothing
Sure it's not great. But what is the average person's threat model\
Complete garbage is still garbage.
and there's no good reason for any individual to compromise their security
@rough sapphire one man's garbage...
Without SMS someone can access my account if they watch me type, install a keylogger or whatever. With SMS they'd now have to build a base station and follow me around
@rough sapphire is still garbage
You can't come up with a fair argument for SMS
@fallen sparrow What are you talking about? You don't have a password on your account... ?
Type + keylog the password?
Why would you need to keylog something if most people use the same password ( or iteration thereof ) on every site, and then one of those sites gets compromised? ( Checked https://haveibeenpwned.com recently? )
Huh? That's not my point and yes I do check that site
Please explain how the situation I described is worse with SMS 2FA
I'm saying that adding SMS to that isn't that big of a deal. If you're a target with a huge payout if you were compromised ( Bitcoin wallet or the like ), or some important person, SS7 attacks.
That's not my threat model, and I would say not most people's either
if you like podcasts
this is a good one
Something like sim swapping I'd notice immediately
Em yes? My phone wouldn't work?
well, so what?
So I would fix that problem maybe
is that phone plugged into your eyeballs 24/7?
and how long do you think the attack is gonna take?
also, how will you know what account they're trying to get?
Well if I only had a password they would already be in the account wouldn't they
well, no
Why
like I said before, a lot of sites do password reset via SMS too
Which ones? I don't know any off the top of my head
facebook, instagram, snapchat..
Sometimes we target random people like me and you. We just target them just to see what they got, because we got their phone number. We can go, we can go on the deep web or any website, really, you know, and buy a list of phone numbers. And sometimes we do that, weāll swap āem, take āem and see what they got. So itās more of a, kind of, just pick your target. Just pickāyou see a phone number online? Take it. Thatās basically how it is. We go after everything. Anything that can make us a dollar, we take.
discord has sms 2fa
I don't use the last 2 and pretty sure I only use app 2fa for facebook
yes, avoiding SMS 2fa is a good idea
that quote is from the podcast above, by the way
they don't just talk about sim swapping - like a lot of their investigative work, they actually go to the people doing this stuff and talk to them
Come to think of it if you want to do a sim swap on me you'd have to guess the fake birthday I put in too lol
Yeah, so basically, OGs like thatāOG handles, those are easy because itās normal people like me and you. As long as I got the number, done. All I got to do is call T-Mobile, Verizonāany phone companies and you'll have it for about 24 hours before they notice, you know, it was obviously a fraud. But by the time you know that happens you've already swapped that OG handle, you've got it. It's yours. Itās done.
doesn't sound like they would need that, no
Where's this text from
Oh nvm the transcript is at the bottom
it's the transcript of https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/v4he6k
yeah
I was clicking through the links
Sure, sometime
What exactly do they say to this T-Mobile dude
To be able to change SIMs
Well apparently it isn't that hard, so I suspect it's nothing too crazy
basic social engineering
"aw i lost my phone and had to get a new one"
"and i moved house."
"new sim plz"
lol is there no ID verification or something
do you think some minimum wage worker in a call centre gives a shit?
Here you need 100 points of ID iirc (unless you just do it via your account)
Have fun forging driver's license and passports
New service, and replacement (again if you don't use your account)
