#ot1-perplexing-regexing | Python | Page 329

shell raptor Nov 11, 2019, 7:59 PM

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So instead of doing it I will complain here.

plucky ridge Nov 11, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Fight the machine!

shell raptor Nov 11, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Is that a polite version of drop_out ? :)

plucky ridge Nov 11, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Something like that

void cedar Nov 11, 2019, 8:00 PM

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in all fairness derivatives are not integrals

plucky ridge Nov 11, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Little more on the wearing anarchy t-shirts and listening to punk rock

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Ramones, Misfits, etc.

shell raptor Nov 11, 2019, 8:01 PM

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If I didn't have certain health issues, I would have no choice but to serve in the military for a year if I drop out.

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So image all the normal males in the uni.

undone berry Nov 11, 2019, 8:03 PM

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what country are you from?

shell raptor Nov 11, 2019, 8:03 PM

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Russia

rough sapphire Nov 11, 2019, 10:48 PM

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родина

vestal briar Nov 11, 2019, 11:00 PM

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CS talk, how more efficiant are HashSets for adding to and querying than a plain vector

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We are talking high volume (think database)

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I assume because HashSets use well.. hash tables that querying is always low

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But i'm not so sure with adding to (removing isn't an issue, very low-volume)

glad plinth Nov 12, 2019, 1:35 AM

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nobody actually lives in Arizona,. it's a government coverup. we just don't know of what because it's a good coverup.

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:35 AM

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is a rice line a hotline for rice.. or is it how much rice you can borrow

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that's what they say about wyoming

glad plinth Nov 12, 2019, 1:36 AM

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like really they expect us to believe that with all of the other dope states we have, we decided to include one whose features include "unbearably hot" and "hole in ground"?

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:37 AM

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the grand canyon? lol

glad plinth Nov 12, 2019, 1:37 AM

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bingo

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:38 AM

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obvious PR name..

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@sand goblet @ebon vessel Let's continue here? Seems pretty off-topic 😄

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:46 AM

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👀

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:47 AM

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👀

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Also, Spyder is pretty good

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:48 AM

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It's.. Fine, really

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:48 AM

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It lacks the ability to diff two files though, which is what I was trying to do last night.

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:48 AM

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📎 unknown.png

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:48 AM

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So that sucks.

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:48 AM

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VSCode is taking the world by a storm

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:48 AM

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PyCharm's mergetool is great, yeah

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:48 AM

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How did a little text editor become so popular

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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I'm just trying to find an editor that isn't bulky.

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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PyCharm can actually automatically resolve a lot of simple merge conflicts

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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And PyCharm is far too big for what I need

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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More than Git itself can

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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@rough sapphire pycharm

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oh

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Oopps

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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@ebon vessel See above

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Just did lol

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maybe kate?

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Having used VS Code for a couple days

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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I tried PyCharm, actually. It's way too hungry for what it is.

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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I can say it can't replace PyCharm

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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We must all bow to pycharm

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Just based on code completion alone

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It's great, you move a file and it can no longer find imports from that file

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Eclipse is the worst lol, according to the list, no suprise there

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:50 AM

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I don't even need autocomplete of anything in an editor.

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:50 AM

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so use npp?

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or sublime?

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:50 AM

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On Debian?

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Decent autocomplete is the best thing since sliced bread

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:50 AM

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gedit

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Gedit is horrible though

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Well yeah

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Not just for making things faster to work on, but also for discovery

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:51 AM

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kate is decent

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Well yeah, then why recommend it? 👀

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Means you have to look at documentation far less often

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:51 AM

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because you wanted something lightweight

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Something good and light.

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:51 AM

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ahh

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Pick one.

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Well, no

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Sublime text is good but it has no REPL

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Good, light, easy. Pick two.

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:52 AM

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I don't need a REPL

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:52 AM

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then use sublime text

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it does not use any chrome / elctron stuff like vscode or atom

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:52 AM

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There's always spaceemacs

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Idle is more popular than emacs

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Sublime isn't in the repos?

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Yeah but idle is garbage

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:53 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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I don't think subl if FOSS

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Emacs isn't popular because it has a steep learning curve

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Also yeah it isn't foss

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:53 AM

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But it is super good

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Ouch.

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Sublime is basically the vim of GUI editors

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:53 AM

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I think it is the only editor out there than can handle large file

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Nah, plenty of editors do that better

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:54 AM

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all the electrons based editors crash

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name one?

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:54 AM

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PyCharm

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Nah

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Haha

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:54 AM

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way slower

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Not really

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:54 AM

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with big files

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For me it is

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:54 AM

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It truncates if the file is too big

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Which is what you want most of the time

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VS Code does amicably handle large files for me too though

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:56 AM

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I really like how this looks

📎 image0.png

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:56 AM

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you need more AA I think

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way more

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Time for bed anyways.

glad plinth Nov 12, 2019, 1:56 AM

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also labeled axes

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Later all

glad plinth Nov 12, 2019, 1:57 AM

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night

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 1:57 AM

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cya

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:57 AM

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Uh oh

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glad plinth Nov 12, 2019, 1:57 AM

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those courses in data visualization paid off big

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:00 AM

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@glad plinth in person course?

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or online?

glad plinth Nov 12, 2019, 2:00 AM

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was a joke

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:00 AM

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oh

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I thought you took some courses

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@rough sapphire that looks weird

glad plinth Nov 12, 2019, 2:01 AM

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no i just read books and googled a lot

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sorry

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:01 AM

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maybe try manually rendering at a higher res and then downscaling?

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you will have ot adjust the labels and all the accordingly

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matplot lib can be a PITA

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:02 AM

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I changed Plot*100 to Plot*1000

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ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:02 AM

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Is that on an iPad

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:03 AM

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Yes

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Pythonista

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:03 AM

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neat that you can do that

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:03 AM

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@rough sapphire Are those two space indents

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👀

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I can’t tab

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:03 AM

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where is the syntax high lighting?

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Tabbing is horrible if not assigned to 4 spaces

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:04 AM

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there is a tab key on this keyboard?

📎 Themes2.png

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wow

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Hacker keyboard?

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:04 AM

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they use 2 spaces on the site picutres too

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@rough sapphire from theit website

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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It’s a dialog.text_dialog

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I don't know who's website that is

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There’s no highlighting

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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pythonista

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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Oh, wow. That's disgusting

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Yeah there’s tab in the IDE not in the custom UI

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And highlighting

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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@rough sapphire rename it with .py at the end?

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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No it isn’t a file

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This is a file

📎 image0.png

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This is what you are seeing

📎 image0.png

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

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Ahh

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

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Wait

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Why are we talking python on off topic

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:08 AM

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better that offtopic on python

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Understandable

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I really like pythonista

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It even has a tool for interfaces

📎 image0.png

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:09 AM

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I prefre pycharm

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:10 AM

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Yeah but on IOS

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:10 AM

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Seeing how that is java, you might be able to get it to work on iOS?

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:10 AM

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I don’t think it would be easy

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:10 AM

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probably not on iOS

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they lock you out of a lot of stuff

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:10 AM

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On android probably

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Probably

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I got a 2-1 over a ipad

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ipad is good for taking notes

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but limited in every other aspect

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

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I like to code on the go so those 199 mxn were well spent

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

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mxn?

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

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That’s like 10 dollars I think

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Mexican peso

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

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fo the ipad or the app?

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

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The app

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Ah, yeah whatever works for you

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The app looks nice

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Apple always seems to have better paid apps than android

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:13 AM

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It is, it even has custom written modules!

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Oh and you can even do neural networks I think

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Not tensorflow but you know it does the job

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The most similar thing you can get to pythonista on Android is QPython

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Oh god QPython

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I hate QPython

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:15 AM

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never heard of it

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:16 AM

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It’s an Android app that is the most ugly and unorthodox thing in history

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:16 AM

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I hate using non-monospaced fonts when writing code

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some of these mobile app use non-monospaced fonts

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why would anyone ever do that

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:17 AM

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flashbacks to Chinese python app

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There’s this company that makes IDEs in Chinese that are uglier than QPython and are mistranslated

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For a while that’s what I used to code in my iPad

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It did the job

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:19 AM

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Do you have a long commute or why do you code on the go?

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:20 AM

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I am mostly outside of my house

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Either in French classes, soccer practice or in school

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Why french?

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Seems random for mexico

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Because I want to live in Canada

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:21 AM

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Oh

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So why not english lol?

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:22 AM

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I already have English in my school

ebon vessel Nov 12, 2019, 2:22 AM

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I see

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coolio

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:22 AM

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Hey

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Watch this

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📎 image0.png

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Or even better

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📎 image0.jpg

glad plinth Nov 12, 2019, 2:30 AM

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hey no

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 2:37 AM

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you're an all star

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get your game on, go play

vestal meteor Nov 12, 2019, 7:43 AM

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ahhhh electron is everywhere

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 8:12 AM

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It's pretty bad, yeah.

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 8:30 AM

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have you seen the terminal emulator which runs on electron

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@rough sapphire What is up with your non-ascii username?

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username is ascii, nickname is "typewriter"-esque

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 8:39 AM

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Hyper? I used to use it

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But I find it slow and it crashes if you try to close it on windows with something running in it

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I just use alacritty on windows now

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 8:45 AM

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@rough sapphire How'd you do that.. ?

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there's tools online for it

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i've done my twitter name in the same fashion

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https://twitter.com/_neonsea_

𝚗𝚎𝚘𝚗𝚜𝚎𝚊 (@_neonsea_)

Security researcher, ethical hacker, pentester, Linux enthusiast

Tweets

1062

Followers

643

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tools online for it doesn't say as to how you did it, though.

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i looked up a tool online to do it :p

solid pollen Nov 12, 2019, 9:17 AM

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https://yaytext.com/monospace/

YayText!

Monospace / Typewriter Font - 𝚖𝚘𝚗𝚘𝚜𝚙𝚊𝚌𝚎

Monospace aka. fixed-width

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You also have specialized keyboard

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 9:21 AM

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Huh, neat.

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 1:13 PM

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also, just realised that the embed I posted italicised my username

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as it has _s in them

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Huh.

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I can't think of another URL that would work on

forest swan Nov 12, 2019, 1:28 PM

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that is interesting

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https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_MMA8451_Library

GitHub

adafruit/Adafruit_MMA8451_Library

Arduino library for the MMA8451 Accelerometer sensors in the Adafruit shop - adafruit/Adafruit_MMA8451_Library

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awh, doesn't work cuz it's between other letters

tulip palm Nov 12, 2019, 3:39 PM

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@rough sapphire for the record, i can't see your nickname characters on some of my devices, so you might wanna be mindful of that :)

rough sapphire Nov 12, 2019, 3:41 PM

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oh, interesting!

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mind telling me what the devices are?

tulip palm Nov 12, 2019, 3:43 PM

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it's just my android stuff (phone, tablet, etc). they're not particularly new devices.

solid pollen Nov 12, 2019, 3:44 PM

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I can see it on my android phone..

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Maybe it is version related? mine run 9.0

tulip palm Nov 12, 2019, 3:45 PM

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my tablet is on 6.0.1

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not sure about my phone

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give me a moment, lemme go find it.

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6.0

plucky ridge Nov 12, 2019, 4:35 PM

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HA, okay this is kind of neat

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So I'm looking over Haskell stuff, and apparently there's a rope package which is for handling long strings

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That's brilliant

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Oh my god

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So it's going over the various keywords that can be used to pull certain parts of a list

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And this is the graphic used to help explain it.

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📎 listmonster.png

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I love this book

fallen sparrow Nov 12, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Is that learn you a Haskell

plucky ridge Nov 12, 2019, 4:46 PM

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It absolutely is

fallen sparrow Nov 12, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Thought so, you can't forget a diagram like that 😄

plucky ridge Nov 12, 2019, 4:47 PM

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I think what sells it is that it's in cursive

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Like

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WHY

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But honestly it's a great book

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Come for the Haskell, stay for the nightmare fuel art

fallen sparrow Nov 12, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Makes me want to pick up Haskell again

plucky ridge Nov 12, 2019, 4:50 PM

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Something clicked in my head and I just got the urge to dive into functional languages again. I didn't realize how huge the Haskell ecosystem is

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Their package library is impressive

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Oh dude, I totally forgot about making ranges

undone berry Nov 12, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Erlang seems like the most useful functional language to me

plucky ridge Nov 12, 2019, 4:53 PM

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[1..5]```
is equivalent to:
```haskell
[1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

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I know, small things but neat

undone berry Nov 12, 2019, 4:53 PM

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the entirety of the telecoms industry relies on it

plucky ridge Nov 12, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Yeah we have a couple folks here on staff who are crazy about Erlang and Elixir

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I was enjoying going through the Elixir tutorial

undone berry Nov 12, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Does just normal JS in a normal Chrome tab allow for any access to information like other tabs or browsing history?

solid pollen Nov 12, 2019, 5:16 PM

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The other tabs need to accept to share those information

plucky ridge Nov 12, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Yeah typically they're partitioned so that they can't see that for security purposes

vapid bluff Nov 12, 2019, 5:22 PM

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hemlock try this [1..]

plucky ridge Nov 12, 2019, 5:23 PM

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My god

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It's full of numbers

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https://tenor.com/vhcF.gif

Tenor

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I also like how you can express a linear pattern and it'll pick up on that as well

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[3, 6..21]

will result in:

[3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, 21]

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To me that's really really awesome

vapid bluff Nov 12, 2019, 5:25 PM

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zip ["lol", "lel", "hah"] [0..]

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boom, you got enumeration

plucky ridge Nov 12, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Oh dude that's wicked

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Going to store that in my mind for a later date

vapid bluff Nov 12, 2019, 5:26 PM

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there's also the take function

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so take 5 [3, 6..] will give you the first 5 in that sequence

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etc

plucky ridge Nov 12, 2019, 5:27 PM

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So cool

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📎 kermit.png

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I don't know how to feel about that Kermit

sly swift Nov 12, 2019, 5:30 PM

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ez

vestal briar Nov 12, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Looks like he's sad but manically laughing

fervent dock Nov 12, 2019, 6:04 PM

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its not easy being green

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRZ-IxZ46ng

YouTube

JayB7869

Muppets - Kermit - Its not easy being green (original)

I do not own the rights to the music or video. I just wanted to share it with you!

▶ Play video

sand goblet Nov 12, 2019, 6:06 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4Q3WGxvyZg

YouTube

JAV

CeeLo and Kermit Sing "Bein' Green"

Kermit the Frog and the Muppets join CeeLo Green on The Voice to sing their classic "Bein' Green."(Aired on NBC Nov 27, 2012) {RIP Jimmy Henson} ~LIVE EVENT~...

▶ Play video

spiral smelt Nov 13, 2019, 4:07 AM

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@vapid bluff @plucky ridge i have an idea on how to implement something similar to that in python

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gonna use sys.settrace prob

vapid bluff Nov 13, 2019, 4:16 AM

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godspeed

spiral smelt Nov 13, 2019, 5:09 AM

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>>> 1..
doing stuff
>>> 1
1
>>> 2
2
>>> 1..2
doing stuff
``` @vapid bluff progress

vapid bluff Nov 13, 2019, 5:19 AM

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i cant get sys.settrace working in the REPL without it freezing lel

spiral smelt Nov 13, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Lel

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I'm leaving it for tonight but I'll probably finish it tomorrow

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Getting [5, 10..20] style stuff to work will be interesting

royal lakeBOT Nov 13, 2019, 6:59 AM

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@rough sapphire, it looks like you tried to attach a file type we don't allow. Feel free to ask in #community-meta if you think this is a mistake.

wanton nexus Nov 13, 2019, 8:24 AM

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@plucky ridge What Haskell book were you talking about? With that beautiful illustration for lists?

vestal briar Nov 13, 2019, 8:31 AM

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Woo rust like ranges

wooden silo Nov 13, 2019, 12:05 PM

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Ugh, how do you choose which calendar to add an event to in Google Calendar?

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Work wants me to add an event to a specific work calendar, but I can't find a setting that selects the calendar in the "create event" dialog.

sand goblet Nov 13, 2019, 12:09 PM

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@wooden silo Double click on the day you want to add an event for

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you'll get the full edit dialog

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you can pick there

wooden silo Nov 13, 2019, 12:10 PM

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Where?

📎 unknown.png

sand goblet Nov 13, 2019, 12:10 PM

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you literally blurred out the calendar name dropdown

wooden silo Nov 13, 2019, 12:10 PM

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It's not a dropdown.

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It's just a text label.

sand goblet Nov 13, 2019, 12:11 PM

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one second

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Yep that means that's the only calendar you can add events to

wooden silo Nov 13, 2019, 12:11 PM

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So I'm lacking permissions to modify the other calendar I guess?

sand goblet Nov 13, 2019, 12:11 PM

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Yeah

wooden silo Nov 13, 2019, 12:12 PM

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Ok, that would explain it

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Thanks

sand goblet Nov 13, 2019, 12:12 PM

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No worries

solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 1:04 PM

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I just did 3 kilometer of rowing in 17 minutes

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I'm dead

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And Spotify is doing some weird things

rough sapphire Nov 13, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Speaking of exercise, it'd be great if there was a robot weight spotter.

vestal briar Nov 13, 2019, 1:13 PM

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"too heavy, you are in the 100th percentile of muscle mass"

rough sapphire Nov 13, 2019, 1:13 PM

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"Don't want to potentially die by failing that last rep? Well do we have a product for you!"

vestal briar Nov 13, 2019, 1:14 PM

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"memory overflow: insufficient memory to calculate users weight"

rough sapphire Nov 13, 2019, 1:16 PM

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"User: YOUR MOTHER
Reason for Failure: User weight: NaN"

vestal briar Nov 13, 2019, 1:16 PM

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Haha

rough sapphire Nov 13, 2019, 1:16 PM

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vestal briar Nov 13, 2019, 1:16 PM

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It's fun when electronic scales actually do that

rough sapphire Nov 13, 2019, 1:18 PM

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"Son, why is the scale broken?"
"Well...."

solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 2:01 PM

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The OT names are supposed to switch at midnight UTC right?

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:04 PM

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a command which tells about ram and avilable slots say

*-bank:0
          description: SODIMM DDR Synchronous [empty]
          physical id: 0
          slot: Bottom - Slot 1 (left)
     *-bank:1
          description: SODIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1600 MHz (0.6 ns)
          product: HMT451S6DFR8A-PB
          vendor: Hynix/Hyundai
          physical id: 1
          serial: 01501424
          slot: Bottom - Slot 2 (right)
          size: 4GiB
          width: 64 bits
          clock: 1600MHz (0.6ns)

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so the 1st one is blank

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and i can only use DDR ram?

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and not DDR3?

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in the first slot i mean

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:05 PM

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@wanton nexus The book I was referring to was "Learn You a Haskell for Great Good!" And thankfully, just like Automate the Boring Stuff, the whole book is online for free. http://learnyouahaskell.com/

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Sorry, just playing catchup and responding to someone

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@fossil solar If one slot is DDR3 compatible then the other one is going to be as well.

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However you can also look at.... one sec, I've got a site for this

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:06 PM

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okay

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:06 PM

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https://www.crucial.com/

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You can use their system scanner to help you find compatible ram

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:07 PM

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shit its an exe

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im on linux

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but can i run it with wine?

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lemme try

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looks like its working

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says no system match found, lol

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can i just buy a DDR3 ram and put it in?

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provided i get the correct size n stuff

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:09 PM

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No, you can't. It has to be within the proper frequencies and stuff

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Let me see if I can find an alternative for Linux

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Didn't think about it being an exe

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:10 PM

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what if i get the same freq as my other ram

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:10 PM

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Oh yeah, if you get identical specs as your other ram stick it should be fine

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You want to make sure at least the frequency matches, otherwise one of the sticks will be lowered to the lowest stick speed

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:10 PM

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cool, i found one on amazon which is the same freq and that SODIMM DDR3 Synchronous

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but i dont see the word Synchronous on the product

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should i open up my laptop to see the size n stuff?

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:12 PM

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https://www.unixmen.com/linux-basics-how-to-find-maximum-supported-ram-by-your-system/

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That's not needed. Any SODIMM is going to be designed for a laptop

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DIMMs are for PC's, SODIMMs are for notebook computers

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:14 PM

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i got the output for that dmidecode command

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    Array Handle: 0x0025
    Error Information Handle: No Error
    Total Width: 64 bits
    Data Width: 64 bits
    Size: 4096 MB
    Form Factor: SODIMM
    Set: None
    Locator: Bottom - Slot 2 (right)
    Bank Locator: BANK 2
    Type: DDR3
    Type Detail: Synchronous
    Speed: 1600 MT/s
    Manufacturer: Hynix/Hyundai
    Serial Number: 01501424
    Asset Tag: 9876543210
    Part Number: HMT451S6DFR8A-PB  
    Rank: 1
    Configured Clock Speed: 1600 MT/s
    Minimum Voltage: 1.35 V
    Maximum Voltage: 1.5 V
    Configured Voltage: 1.35 V

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should i get the ram from the same manufacturer?

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:17 PM

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That's weird that it's in MT/s and not in MHz...

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But only if it's an affordable option

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:18 PM

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wait its in MHz

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here is the output for another command

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          product: HMT451S6DFR8A-PB
          vendor: Hynix/Hyundai
          physical id: 1
          serial: 01501424
          slot: Bottom - Slot 2 (right)
          size: 4GiB
          width: 64 bits
          clock: 1600MHz (0.6ns)```

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Ah, okay then yeah

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:18 PM

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what is MT/s

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:19 PM

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So long as you get another SODIMM that's DDR 3 and 1600MHz, you'll be fine

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:19 PM

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what will happen if i use 2 rams from different manufacturers

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okay

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Different manufacturers shouldn't matter

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:19 PM

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okay

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does ram sticks lose efficiency as time goes by?

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its been 4 years i have this laptop

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:20 PM

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Ah, apparently it's "Mega Transfers per second". Not in the same way as you might think a motor might. When it comes to electronic parts like RAM, it's usually all or nothing

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Sectors go bad on it and can cause system instability

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:20 PM

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ohk

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:20 PM

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But it's not like it'll get progressively slower

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:20 PM

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okay

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i think i will get 2 sticks

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:20 PM

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That's what I typically do

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I tend to get pairs of sticks just out of habit and tradition

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:20 PM

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cool

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lol

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so what are some good manufacturers out there?

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i see alketron a lot

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:21 PM

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G.Skill is good, Crucial, Kingston is alright, Corsair is great

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:21 PM

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i stick to corsair and kingston hyperx

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:21 PM

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okay

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:21 PM

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corsair if it's for myself

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:22 PM

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My sticks in my beast at home use G.Skills

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:22 PM

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kingston if it's for cheapos

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:22 PM

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But I think I slapped some Crucial sticks in my laptop

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:22 PM

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okay okay lemme look at the pricing, cuz that too matters, lol

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:22 PM

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For sure

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Honestly just look at the reviews

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:22 PM

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they're not that far from each other anymore thankfully

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ram dropped a fair bit

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:22 PM

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If you have a lot of people saying that they just broke after a short time over and over then avoid that

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But most of the time, ram is ram

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Actually Samsung has been kicking ass in this field as well

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:23 PM

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damn crucial got 4.5 rating

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Which has surprised me

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:23 PM

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crucial has excellent rating and twice of cost of samsung, lol

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:23 PM

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True but you might also want to look at warranties on them

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:24 PM

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waat ram comes with warranties too?

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:24 PM

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Absolutely

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Every part does

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:24 PM

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damn thats cool

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:24 PM

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In fact my old G.Skills had/have a lifetime warranty on them

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:24 PM

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will DDR3L do?

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:24 PM

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Let me double check

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:24 PM

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L is just low profile

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iirc

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Lower voltage yeah

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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got some good ones from corsair

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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ah low voltage

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hnng be careful with that then

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it's gotta be compat with the mobo

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i'd suggest reading the mobo memory compatibility

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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mobo?

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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motherboard

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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it says low voltage 1.35 V

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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"DDR3L is the low power and more compact version of DDR3, designed especially for laptops and other portable equipment"

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So yes

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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is this for a lappy?

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Yep

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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yes

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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i didn't read far enough back

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whoops lol

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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So long as it says SODIMM you're going to be fine

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SODIMM and DDR3, L or not

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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my cmd line output says 1.35 minimum Volts and 1.5 is maximum

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Yeah, then either of the DDR3 standards will work

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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mm

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lower voltage is fine in that case

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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okay corsair it is, got better rating

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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corsair is delish

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Corsair is a good choice

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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10year warranty

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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I think my power supply is Corsair

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Oh yeah, that's plenty good

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If something is going to die, it'll die well before that

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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my laptop is not even 5 years old, lol

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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yeah i stick to corsair PSUs too

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Modular, baby

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:27 PM

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i don't mind Seasonics though if they're on special

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Haven't seen them before

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And granted, I haven't done anything with my rig in quite a while

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:28 PM

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they've been considered one of the most reliable brands, but often about $30 more than eq other brands

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Huh, I'll have to take a peek at them

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:29 PM

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damn SSDs are so costly

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:29 PM

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... not compared to what they used to be

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i know that sounds like a cop out, but truly ssds have drastically dropped in price over the past two years

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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in case of SSDs, will all SSD be compatible with my laptop?

solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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They aren't that costly for the performance boost they gave

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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nope

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what laptop do you have

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is it older

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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4 years old

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i3

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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hmm, whats the model?

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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5th or 6th or 7th gen, i dont remember

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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it's possible but unlikely to have an m.2

solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 2:30 PM

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The model of the computer

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Yeah probably just a sata

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:31 PM

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hyundai lol

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so korean

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Intel® Core™ i3-5005U CPU @ 2.00GHz × 4

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:31 PM

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i don't think there's m.2

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stick to sata

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:31 PM

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okay

solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 2:31 PM

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The model of the freakin' computer is...??

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Yeah very unlikely

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:31 PM

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sata has a bottleneck at 600 mb/s

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:32 PM

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this laptop still packs a punch in linux, very fast yet

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:32 PM

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so i'd suggest just looking at a samsung 860

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they're almost all on special now

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:32 PM

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okay

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:32 PM

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you can get a 1tb for cheap even

solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 2:32 PM

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M.2 are crazy though

gentle moss Nov 13, 2019, 2:32 PM

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cheap and good

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:32 PM

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well "cheap" for an ssd

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yes, they're good

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:32 PM

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1Tb is like $100

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:32 PM

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they also have excellent warranty

solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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$100 only?

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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a little more

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130

gentle moss Nov 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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i believe they also come with a USB3 adapter and some free software so you can just clone your old drive

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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i didn't get an adapter with mine

gentle moss Nov 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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aw

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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or any i've bought for clients

gentle moss Nov 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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aw

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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if i have HDD in my laptop, can i connect external SSD?

gentle moss Nov 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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bummer

solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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I didn't get any too

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:33 PM

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external ssd only requires a usb

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it's just an external drive

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:34 PM

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ah okay

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:34 PM

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it's a waste of time though if you don't have usb3

solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 2:34 PM

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But their performance aren't as good as the internal one

gentle moss Nov 13, 2019, 2:34 PM

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internal SSD's can be run off a USB3

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with the right adapter

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:34 PM

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they can, but you need the adapter yep

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but why

solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Why would you do that

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:34 PM

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extra drive

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cheaper to buy internals on special

solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Just buy an external ssd

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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that's a matter of price though

gentle moss Nov 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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also it's easier to clone a drive

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you can clone a live laptop without taking the drive out first

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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USB 3 is the square one right?

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rectangle i mean

gentle moss Nov 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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USB 3 is the blue one

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:P

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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lol usb3 is a standard which is usually blue or red

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red is usb C port for some mobos (especially asus yes bisk)

gentle moss Nov 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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red smells like Asus

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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cant really see mine, its full of dust

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:35 PM

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lol

solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Use your phone flashlight

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:36 PM

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it's likely you're usb3, you said it's only 4 years old

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:36 PM

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there are some symbols beside them

solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 2:36 PM

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I don't think you have a different symbol for usb3

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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i think i see a little blue

solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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It should be usb3 then

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:37 PM

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USB A looks similar?

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SS is written beside my port, so its USB 3

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:39 PM

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USB A is just the port type

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:39 PM

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okay

gentle moss Nov 13, 2019, 2:39 PM

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yay complicated things \o/

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:40 PM

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lol

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:40 PM

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it's not complicated until you realise all the different protocols that can use USB C

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(hint: a shitload, some of which aren't USB at all)

gentle moss Nov 13, 2019, 2:40 PM

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yeah

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Another good indicator if a port is USB 3 is that manufacturers have been pretty good about making sure that the little tab is blue

gentle moss Nov 13, 2019, 2:40 PM

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oh my word how many USB-C cables are there

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jesus christ

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Right?

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:40 PM

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btw my teacher in school started micro controllers and processors today

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:40 PM

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I LOVE the USB-C to 3.5mm jack, though

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:40 PM

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I actually love USB C cables though. I've been 1000% won over by them

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I am truly glad they introduced the port

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 2:41 PM

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Same

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Oh cool, that should be fun, Ice

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:41 PM

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yea not under the memory topics

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:41 PM

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it's only complicated because they're attempting to universalify a shit history of protocols

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so i'm hoping all that fades away into history by 10 years

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:42 PM

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plant more trees first

solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 2:42 PM

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There is also USB C ports on rtx graphic cards

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But.. They aren't really USB C

fossil solar Nov 13, 2019, 2:43 PM

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anyway, thanks for the help guys!

solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 2:45 PM

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It's me or discord was down for like 5 minutes?

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 2:45 PM

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not here

solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Well my internet connection just seem to be dead

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RIP

undone berry Nov 13, 2019, 3:01 PM

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The UK general election may be trash - but at least it brings stuff like this https://twitter.com/andysilke/status/1194541555291430913?s=20

Andy Silke (@andysilke)

Can someone turn Michael Gove off and on again, he's gone wrong https://t.co/yseVz8XV1e

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solid pollen Nov 13, 2019, 3:46 PM

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@dusky orchid the survey has open right now? Because this page looks familiar..

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 3:46 PM

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not right now, just for this year

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I don't actually know the exact date it opened

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if it was a couple of weeks ago, we missed it lol

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but it's still open and I was only recently made aware of it, and we announce it every year 🙂

modern island Nov 13, 2019, 3:58 PM

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This channel name is hMm

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>>> import gd
>>> gd.jokes.html
<sarcasm> HTML is a programming language. </sarcasm>``` I even have added this to my library

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 3:59 PM

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you have a lib named gd?

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feels like one of those snippet packages

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"i shall put all the semi useful things i've ever written that shouldn't be a standalone thing in here"

modern island Nov 13, 2019, 4:01 PM

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Lol no

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It is not that

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 4:01 PM

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import all_my_old_regrets

modern island Nov 13, 2019, 4:01 PM

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Lol

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@dusky orchid the package is called gd.py. It is on PyPI, and gd means Geometry Dash, which is the name of the game with the servers of which my package interacts.

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 4:02 PM

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i see

modern island Nov 13, 2019, 4:03 PM

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API wrapper, I would say

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But I have some crazy stuff there

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e.g. py import gd async def coro(): return 13 coro().run() this is legal code

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 4:06 PM

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importing has the package inject the run method on Coroutines?

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reminds me of a muck around lib i was writing a while back

modern island Nov 13, 2019, 4:07 PM

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haha

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I think I should disable it by default?

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 4:07 PM

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probs

modern island Nov 13, 2019, 4:07 PM

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Yeah I have even more strange stuff

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I am injecting __asyncwrap__ to all objects

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asyncio.gather(f(1), f(2)).__asyncwrap__().run()

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which is uhm

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roothink

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Being someone who primarily works on discord bots, mine was d.py related.
Importing my package injected an extra stage in discord.py event processing which allowed me to have a context retrievable from anywhere

modern island Nov 13, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Epic thing

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But yeah I gotta rewrite so users can do gd.synchronize() or something

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 4:09 PM

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what's that to do

modern island Nov 13, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Injects .run() to coros and .__asyncwrap__() to objects

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Well, I needed it for simple sync testing so I made this lel

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thinkmon

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 4:13 PM

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synchronize doesn't seem to be super clear on what it's doing by just it's name lol

modern island Nov 13, 2019, 4:13 PM

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hm

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Any suggestions?

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 4:14 PM

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no idea

modern island Nov 13, 2019, 4:14 PM

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do_some_cpython_related_trickery_to_coroutines?

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 4:14 PM

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add_coro_run

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wrap_coro

modern island Nov 13, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Haha

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 4:14 PM

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wrap_it_or_lose_it

modern island Nov 13, 2019, 4:14 PM

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add_coro_wrap

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 4:14 PM

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seems fine

modern island Nov 13, 2019, 4:14 PM

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makes sense yeah

dusky orchid Nov 13, 2019, 4:15 PM

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it can still be an import if you really wanted, but it's still clearer to be a callable

modern island Nov 13, 2019, 4:15 PM

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do_something_cool_even_though_it_does_work_only_on_cpython_uwu

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roothink

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Btw is there gc.get_objects() thing for other implementations of Python?

cosmic quiver Nov 13, 2019, 4:24 PM

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I think it's an implementation detail

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I'm not 100% sure though

modern island Nov 13, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Yeah I haven’t found such in PyPy, for example

cosmic quiver Nov 13, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Yeah it's an impl detail

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 5:53 PM

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On today's episode of "Hemlock Tries to Learn More Languages: Haskell Edition", I learn that you can infix functions by wrapping them in backticks

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So for example this:

mod 7 3```is the same as:
```haskell
7 `mod` 3

rough sapphire Nov 13, 2019, 5:54 PM

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That sounds horrible

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 5:54 PM

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Which, if this were C, would be like mod(7, 3)

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It's interesting

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It makes it clearer for some things

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Obviously not always

vapid bluff Nov 13, 2019, 5:57 PM

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on a similar note, you can 'postfix' infix operators by wrapping them in parentheses.

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e.g. (*) 2 3

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Good example of where it's slightly clearer Oh huh

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That's actually really cool

vapid bluff Nov 13, 2019, 5:57 PM

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treating them as a function basically

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 5:57 PM

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[ x | x <- [50..100], x `mod` 7 == 3]

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I feel like that's clearer than the alternative of:

[ x | x <- [50..100], mod x 7 == 3]

vapid bluff Nov 13, 2019, 5:59 PM

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there is an extra benefit to the postfix thing. you can partially apply them.

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so map (* 2) [1,2,3,4] is valid

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Oh shit, so that'd use it as a function against the list

vapid bluff Nov 13, 2019, 6:00 PM

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exactly

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 6:00 PM

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That's really cool, actually

vapid bluff Nov 13, 2019, 6:00 PM

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it's like functools.partial with operator.__mul__ (which i'd assume is precisely inspired by this aspect of functional languages)

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 6:00 PM

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I'm beginning to appreciate purely functional languages a lot more

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It's starting to help me think of different ways to approach Python problems, too

vapid bluff Nov 13, 2019, 6:27 PM

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oops, just realised i said postfix instead of prefix 🤦

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though map (2 *) [1,2,3] is also valid

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at least in GHC

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@plucky ridge

plucky ridge Nov 13, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Still cool

rough sapphire Nov 13, 2019, 9:41 PM

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fruit

rough sapphire Nov 14, 2019, 12:30 AM

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that jetbrains survey website must be experiencing a lot of traffic

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what's sqlalchemy

tired osprey Nov 14, 2019, 12:35 AM

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its a python wrapper for basically any SQL impl you can think of

rough sapphire Nov 14, 2019, 12:35 AM

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so to run some sql statements within python?

tired osprey Nov 14, 2019, 12:38 AM

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well it actually wraps all of the SQL into objects

undone berry Nov 14, 2019, 12:38 AM

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Its an ORM to abstract SQL away from the developer and deal with it in terms of objects instead

tired osprey Nov 14, 2019, 12:38 AM

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but under the hood it does run SQL queries

undone berry Nov 14, 2019, 12:38 AM

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So instead of a book table, you have a book Model that maps to that table

rough sapphire Nov 14, 2019, 12:38 AM

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ok.. I guess it's not better than SparkSQL

undone berry Nov 14, 2019, 12:38 AM

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which you treat like a python object

rough sapphire Nov 14, 2019, 12:39 AM

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yep I get the idea..

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can't believe they classified Dask as a big data tool.. same as things from the apache framework.. it's just a library

tight cargo Nov 14, 2019, 2:28 AM

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hey so

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idk if anyone is participating for black friday like that

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but does anyone know of any good monitor sales?

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i'm trying to buy a 2nd and possibly 3rd monitor if the price is right

rough sapphire Nov 14, 2019, 4:31 AM

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@tight cargo what specs 144 hz 4K hdr ?!? Gonna have to be more specific

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@tight cargo r/monitors is a good place to start

tight cargo Nov 14, 2019, 4:50 AM

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ty

wooden kindle Nov 14, 2019, 6:59 AM

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Just finished my brainfuck interpreter. Was pretty fun and only took a few hours https://github.com/Zer0897/brainfuck-rs

GitHub

Zer0897/brainfuck-rs

Brainfuck interpreter written in Rust. Contribute to Zer0897/brainfuck-rs development by creating an account on GitHub.

wooden kindle Nov 14, 2019, 7:26 AM

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Best language

wanton nexus Nov 14, 2019, 8:16 AM

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@plucky ridge I'm actually trying to learn Haskell myself right now. I bought "the" Haskellbook, and started a Twitter account trying to follow it. I only post updates once a week though, 'cause I mostly only get to do it on weekends (work and shité). I'm also a bit ahead of my tweets, but it appears to me that structuring and simplifying new info into little threads actually helps to let the information settle in my head even if noone's reading/following

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Now that I'm thinking about it, I can probably find a way to share my copy of the book if you're interested

visual spoke Nov 14, 2019, 11:48 AM

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📎 It-just-works.jpg

sand goblet Nov 14, 2019, 12:01 PM

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Yeeeep

wanton nexus Nov 14, 2019, 12:04 PM

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That's me and ducking Graphene

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their docs are absolutely outdated

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spent half an hour googling + half an hour going through github issues just to find out that the signature for some generic methods had changed (from some unrelated issue!)

undone berry Nov 14, 2019, 12:09 PM

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That sounds like the kind of thing an IDE would fix for you

solid pollen Nov 14, 2019, 12:11 PM

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Well if the docstrings are bad too, that doesn't help

undone berry Nov 14, 2019, 12:17 PM

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It can still give you function/method names from libraries/classes right?

solid pollen Nov 14, 2019, 12:33 PM

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Yeah but... You can't guess what argument you need to pass and what the function does

undone berry Nov 14, 2019, 12:33 PM

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thats true

wanton nexus Nov 14, 2019, 1:28 PM

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@undone berry what I meant is that they have implemented the GraphQL concept of resolvers, and they need to have a specific signature. The function name should be prepended with resolve_ in its name, and it expects certain parameters in that signature. The docs had the names and the number of these parameters wrong. The source code didn't name any of these explicitly anywhere, it was all like *args **kwargs, and going deep down the rabbit hole

undone berry Nov 14, 2019, 1:30 PM

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Yeah thats fair - I didn't really think about the details of what could have gone wrong too much

wanton nexus Nov 14, 2019, 1:31 PM

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As the user of their framework, I am defining the resolver functions, though they must have a particular signature. I think that's where I wasn't too clear, ha-ha

plucky ridge Nov 14, 2019, 2:07 PM

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@wanton nexus I might take you up on that, but for now I'm content with doing "Learn You a Haskell". I tend to go at a slower pace since I do this primarily in my free time at work.

autumn herald Nov 14, 2019, 3:40 PM

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If you're ditching Graphene, you might want to check out https://github.com/tartiflette/tartiflette i think it serves a similar purpose ?

GitHub

tartiflette/tartiflette

GraphQL Engine built with Python 3.6+ / asyncio. Contribute to tartiflette/tartiflette development by creating an account on GitHub.

solid pollen Nov 14, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Tartiflette?....

visual spoke Nov 14, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Straight Outta Hong Kong

📎 1462d5f.png

gentle moss Nov 14, 2019, 5:06 PM

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hah

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GrafSQL

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get it

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GET IT

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i am so smrt

vestal briar Nov 14, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Returned: [<name:bisk>]

gentle moss Nov 14, 2019, 5:13 PM

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jokes on you

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i've never done an IQ test

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HAH

solid pollen Nov 14, 2019, 5:17 PM

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ERROR : too_many_rows

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Well, too much idiots in the world :p

vestal briar Nov 14, 2019, 6:22 PM

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I wonder if theres a dumbest person in the world

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Like 50iq

autumn herald Nov 14, 2019, 6:27 PM

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hi

gentle moss Nov 14, 2019, 6:41 PM

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depends what we're measuring i guess

plucky ridge Nov 14, 2019, 6:53 PM

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I'm not sure I like where this question is going

wanton nexus Nov 14, 2019, 7:01 PM

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@autumn herald Thanks! I actually was looking at it a little earlier, seemed awesome. It's a little too late now, though

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I'm a senior engineer on a greenfield project, and we'd decided to go with Graphene about two months ago. As you might imagine, we'd done quite a lot of work already that's tied into it, and the business just wants to see a lot of results fast. It's highly unlikely I can buy some time to rewrite everything to this framework right now, but it might work in the future

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Have you ever used Tartiflette?

autumn herald Nov 14, 2019, 7:30 PM

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not myself but i know someone that develop it, i read some of their thing sometimes and the comparison with graphene stick

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i'm afraid i don't know much about it

vestal briar Nov 14, 2019, 7:34 PM

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Made my rustdoc fancy:

📎 unknown.png

wanton nexus Nov 14, 2019, 8:52 PM

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Gotcha. Well, thanks for the suggestion either way

leaden flame Nov 14, 2019, 11:12 PM

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is python considered...what subject? computer science? engineering?
i ask bc i'm looking for more help online

undone berry Nov 14, 2019, 11:16 PM

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Its a programming language

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that can be used in a range of different industries or subjects

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but generally programming, and python falls into the category of computer science

frosty berry Nov 14, 2019, 11:43 PM

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questions feels a bit like asking if wood is considered architecture or sculpture

rough sapphire Nov 15, 2019, 12:20 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amYzBQMT4VI

YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

rough sapphire Nov 15, 2019, 1:50 AM

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what happened to previews in the embeds..

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I see the embed as just a banner..

jagged fog Nov 15, 2019, 1:51 AM

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they did their job

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it's their job to * up

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my bot embeds are hecked

vapid bluff Nov 15, 2019, 2:31 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTvEfW2eUCM

YouTube

C-SPAN

LIVE: House Impeachment Inquiry Hearing

Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch testifies on Impeach Inquiry before House Intelligence Cmte – LIVE at 9am ET on C-SPAN2, C-SPAN Radio & o...

▶ Play video

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second day getting under way

clear turtle Nov 15, 2019, 2:36 PM

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I should read some recaps from yesterday

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I have to work :(

plucky ridge Nov 15, 2019, 2:36 PM

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I'm stressed out just looking at the link title

vapid bluff Nov 15, 2019, 2:36 PM

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first one was on wednesday

clear turtle Nov 15, 2019, 2:36 PM

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oh, right. days of the week lol

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This server is, like, really great

plucky ridge Nov 15, 2019, 2:38 PM

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I'm glad to hear that!

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We try to make it a nice place to be

clear turtle Nov 15, 2019, 2:39 PM

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@plucky ridge it's so rare to find a help place for any sort of software that I don't feel stupid for asking questions

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I'm too used to stack exchange, haha

plucky ridge Nov 15, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Yeeaahhhh those kinds of places are kind of newbie hostile

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That's always irritated me

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I mean we were all beginners, we all didn't know what kinds of questions to ask

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Why should we discourage people wanting to understand?

clear turtle Nov 15, 2019, 2:40 PM

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same. like, it's really hard to get to the point of being able to understand the answers on a place like SE

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to get the knowledge you need to be able to "just google it"

plucky ridge Nov 15, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Which is all well and good, but sometimes you don't even know what to google

clear turtle Nov 15, 2019, 2:40 PM

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yeah, exactly

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I don't ask much, but I like browsing the help channels here. it's a good way to learn things

plucky ridge Nov 15, 2019, 2:41 PM

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I HATE it when people say "just google it" or talk about help being "spoonfed". Honestly, sometimes people need to be walked to a certain point in the problem before things start clicking

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Oh yeah, absolutely

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Most of what I know came from just keeping an eye on the questions

clear turtle Nov 15, 2019, 2:41 PM

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and then google just leads you to people saying to google it

plucky ridge Nov 15, 2019, 2:41 PM

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Yeeeaaah had that a few times

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Honestly the most important skill (other than the basics of the language and of programming concepts in general) is being able to work your way through documentation

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And that can be a tough skill to manage at times

clear turtle Nov 15, 2019, 2:42 PM

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I learn so much just from, like, the questions people ask. like "oh, I wouldn't even thought of that being a thing I could do, and now I know not only that I can do it, but how to do it"

plucky ridge Nov 15, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Oh yeah exactly

clear turtle Nov 15, 2019, 2:43 PM

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my python knowledge is very specific to the model I work with, since I've had to learn VERY quickly on the go after our main programmer left

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I went from "oh, just support this guy and learn from him" to "oh, now you're in charge of everything"

plucky ridge Nov 15, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Oh sheesh yeah. I can only imagine that'd be incredibly daunting

clear turtle Nov 15, 2019, 2:44 PM

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working with a more seasoned data scientist/developer outside our group to clean up the bloat in the code now, so I'm finally learning, like, best practices

plucky ridge Nov 15, 2019, 2:44 PM

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And that's incredibly hard to get from google

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Has to come from people either in your field or just folks with more experience

clear turtle Nov 15, 2019, 2:45 PM

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yep

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anyway, thanks for making the server a great place :)

plucky ridge Nov 15, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Hey, it's mostly the users. We just weed out the undesirables

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I'm proud of myself for remembering that the glassware in your avatar is called an Erlenmeyer flask

pine vector Nov 15, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Hisenberg was a great teacher... 😁

plucky ridge Nov 15, 2019, 3:01 PM

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I never actually watched the show

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I just liked chemistry class

fossil solar Nov 15, 2019, 3:04 PM

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organic chemistry is the best

plucky ridge Nov 15, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Organic is an acquired taste

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You either love it or hate it

fossil solar Nov 15, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Haha yea

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There is just lot of things to remember in that

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 3:41 PM

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U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine is testifying in impeachment hearing

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they PAUSED HER TESTIMONY to read out the live tweets of the president attacking her

jagged fog Nov 15, 2019, 3:41 PM

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vestal briar Nov 15, 2019, 4:08 PM

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Haha

vapid bluff Nov 15, 2019, 4:09 PM

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and not long after they asked her how the president attacking her in the past made her feel

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cant make this shit up

dry zenith Nov 15, 2019, 4:09 PM

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there a link to a livestream of this shitshow or something?

vapid bluff Nov 15, 2019, 4:10 PM

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there's a few, pbs, c-span, cnn, cbs, etc are all livestreaming it

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbW-A96UIm8 switched to this one from c-span

dry zenith Nov 15, 2019, 4:10 PM

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i live not in amerikka

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that works cheers

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everything is entertainment ey

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even idiocracy didn't consider going this far with their vision of the future

vapid bluff Nov 15, 2019, 4:12 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HLifnr2OSI just found this one from the guardian. i like it better since there doesnt seem to be any interstitial commentary. theyre just showing the room during the break

dry zenith Nov 15, 2019, 4:12 PM

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nice

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now we need cameras fixed on the notebooks of various speakers and for betting agencies to get in on this

vapid bluff Nov 15, 2019, 4:13 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ucMemjViw this one is showing... idk? the hallway outside the room?

dry zenith Nov 15, 2019, 4:15 PM

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in entirely unrelated news i had a vaccination multi-shot today, which was the only medical/drug thing I had all day, and now everything that should be white looks blue/purplish

vapid bluff Nov 15, 2019, 4:15 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLXJSEFwBsY some interesting angle changes here 😛

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woah that sounds... interesting

dry zenith Nov 15, 2019, 4:16 PM

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interesting is right

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it only affects white light, i tried other sources and they look normal

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probably some food/stabiliser interaction fucking with blue cone activation

vapid bluff Nov 15, 2019, 4:17 PM

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is that a known side effect?

dry zenith Nov 15, 2019, 4:18 PM

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i didn't find anything on google

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so probably not

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will go see docs if it persists tomorrow

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if you ever use redshift/night mode on a tablet and then turn on normal light, it looks kinda like that

vapid bluff Nov 15, 2019, 4:20 PM

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are you sure you wanna wait til tomorrow?
i mean im no doctor obviously but afaik the eyes are supposed to have a strong barrier between the bloodstream that should prevent any weird stuff getting in there

dry zenith Nov 15, 2019, 4:21 PM

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i've had enough hallucinogens in my life to know this is mild

vapid bluff Nov 15, 2019, 4:21 PM

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hallucinogens affect your brain directly tho 😛

dry zenith Nov 15, 2019, 4:22 PM

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also its 3am so going anywhere would mean going to ER and waiting till morning for anyone to give a shit anyway

vapid bluff Nov 15, 2019, 4:22 PM

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ah lol

dry zenith Nov 15, 2019, 4:22 PM

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i mean... i could be brain?

vapid bluff Nov 15, 2019, 4:22 PM

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is that really better...

dry zenith Nov 15, 2019, 4:22 PM

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i'm only speculating something is fucking with blue cone activation because it only seems to affect white

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i'll check back tomorrow haha

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inb4 autism

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 4:23 PM

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i was holding my tongue

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~_~

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fuck sake kb

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¬_¬

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there we go

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yeah so intimidating a witness / witness tampering is a crime

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obstruction of justice etc

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so live tweeting threats at a witness might be an additional article of impeachment

dry zenith Nov 15, 2019, 4:24 PM

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i am confused how it ever escalated to this

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in any sane society trump would've been removed like... on week 3?

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like i get there's strong partisan issues, but its kinda hard to dispute that russia managed to place an asset into the US presidency

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 4:25 PM

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well

dry zenith Nov 15, 2019, 4:25 PM

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deal with that first then go back to fighting for gun rights and underage marriage and whatever else

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 4:25 PM

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checks and balances often are slow to kick in

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plus congress is incredibly divided

dry zenith Nov 15, 2019, 4:26 PM

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division is the coolest thing russia ever invented in the last 50 years

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 4:26 PM

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if democrats didn't pick up last years midterms we'd probably still be sat here not looking at an impeachment proceeding

dry zenith Nov 15, 2019, 4:27 PM

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it was interesting to watch how reddit dealt with russian psyops

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there was a period where russian accounts where top voted comments on every other worldnews thread

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and anyone mentioning that they're suspicious was banned

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and then 8 months later reddit was like oh yeah shit guys our bad we were totally owned by russian psyops

vestal briar Nov 15, 2019, 4:44 PM

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TL;DR on this whole thing?

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:04 PM

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he's fucked

undone berry Nov 15, 2019, 5:07 PM

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he's fucked isn't true (if this is about the Trump impeachment) mainly because its needs to pass the senate before anything really happens, and it never will pass the Republican senate because there isn't even a cut and dry definition of what is and isn't impeachable

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:08 PM

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yes but lets be honest

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he's fucked

undone berry Nov 15, 2019, 5:08 PM

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I don't think so

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I think you overestimate the effectiveness of American democracy

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:08 PM

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at this point i'm not even talking like he'll be in jail or get impeached

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i mean he's actually just like, fucked

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less and less people like him the more and more he behaves the way he is

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

undone berry Nov 15, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Is that even true

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:09 PM

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yeah

undone berry Nov 15, 2019, 5:09 PM

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he still polls at like 40%

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:09 PM

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even polls by FOX are showing that his support is on the down

undone berry Nov 15, 2019, 5:10 PM

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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/ I don't know how legit this site is, but according to this he's not even at his lowest rating

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:11 PM

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five thirty eight is pretty good

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and he's always polled around 40% for some reason

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just a consistent rate

undone berry Nov 15, 2019, 5:11 PM

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yeah

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36 is the lowest I see

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:11 PM

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that's why i think he's pretty fucked

undone berry Nov 15, 2019, 5:11 PM

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I don't think so

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:11 PM

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since people are clearly more vocally against him and this shit

undone berry Nov 15, 2019, 5:11 PM

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40s aren't that low for US presidents

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:11 PM

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yet his ratings haven't changed

undone berry Nov 15, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Obama hit 29

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:12 PM

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which could just go to show the polls are skewed

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idk

undone berry Nov 15, 2019, 5:12 PM

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I think

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a significant enough number of americans

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:12 PM

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i don't think he hit 29

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i think he hit 39

undone berry Nov 15, 2019, 5:12 PM

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oh yeah

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38

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I misread something

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anyway, enough americans are just awful that he'll never be that fucked

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:13 PM

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i mean, depends on scale of fuckedness

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he'll have a hard time going anywhere for the rest of his short syphilitic life

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he loves to eat at mcdonalds

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well guess who's gobbing in his food

undone berry Nov 15, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Strong disagree - Hes helped enough billionaires that he's just fine at this point

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:15 PM

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again, for a man who loves to be adored by the masses

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

undone berry Nov 15, 2019, 5:16 PM

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enough of the Foxian masses

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love him

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:16 PM

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the moment this whole being president thing is off him i think he's gonna get hit by a wall of hate

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he's always been a joke or w/e and people have disliked him

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but now huge sections of the world hate the man with a passion

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a real burning hate that a stuck up dickhead "billionaire" playing boss on TV would never attract

undone berry Nov 15, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Maybe - but I think as long as enough people adore him, which imo a solid amount always will, he can just play up to them

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:19 PM

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they'll find some other shit to fawn over

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maybe rudy will run for president

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rofl

undone berry Nov 15, 2019, 5:19 PM

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hes too old

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:20 PM

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and also fucking mental

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didn't stop drumpf

undone berry Nov 15, 2019, 5:20 PM

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as we've learned, mental can't hurt that much

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I just wish there were a few raging socialist/communist mental people

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:20 PM

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rudy looks like a vampire who accidentally sucked too much blood from keith richards

undone berry Nov 15, 2019, 5:21 PM

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He looks like an evil version of Jeffrey Tambor

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I assume Rudy is Rudy Giuliani

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 5:57 PM

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yeah, good ol Rudy

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it's like his face is that Bilbo jump scare from LotR on pause

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:02 PM

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got another piece of homework i need help with. in this system of equations, how do i find what values of a gives 0, 1 and 2 solutions?
2y-x^2+2x=a y-2x=3

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 6:02 PM

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idk i didn't go to school

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stay in school and you'll be in my position

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but able to answer your own question

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:03 PM

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oo some simultaneous equations

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you can either rearrange it so that you have one variable in terms of the other

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then substitute

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or eliminate

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in this case you cant eliminate

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:04 PM

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then how would i go about it?

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:05 PM

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do you know how to change the subject of a formula

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 6:05 PM

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so, those mets huh?

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like that?

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:05 PM

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mets?

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 6:05 PM

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i changed the subject

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:05 PM

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nice

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 6:05 PM

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nevermind.

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:06 PM

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but you didnt change the subject of a formula

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 6:06 PM

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:(

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i changed the subject from a formula

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:06 PM

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oo

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:06 PM

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can you don't

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 6:06 PM

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i don't

rough sapphire Nov 15, 2019, 6:06 PM

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can you do

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:06 PM

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📎 D23YSBF.png

rough sapphire Nov 15, 2019, 6:06 PM

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bad

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:06 PM

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@steady forum but what did you mean

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:07 PM

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lol

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i mean

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get it so that there is only x or y on one side of the equals

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:08 PM

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i know that xd

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:09 PM

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then when you have x=... or y=...

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you can replace the stuff in the other equation with that

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:11 PM

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i'll try to do that ig. but i know it's only gonna get me so far

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by the way, in -x^2, are you supposed to square the negative number or negate after squaring

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:12 PM

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(dont rearrange that equation)

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(do the easier one then substitute)

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(then solve)

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:13 PM

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what now?

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:14 PM

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so for yours

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you have y-2x=3

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you can turn that into y=2x+3

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:14 PM

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that gives me x=1,5-y/2

gentle moss Nov 15, 2019, 6:14 PM

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don't solve his hooomewooork

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no one did it for me :(

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:15 PM

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nah im instructing

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:15 PM

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i have the solution

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i just wanna know how it's done, cause it's a hand-in

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:15 PM

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ah

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anyway

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when you get the y=2x+3

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you can replace anywhere that y appears in the first equation with 2x+3

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then solve

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actually this you might need to use the discriminant of a quadratic equation

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based on me actually reading the question

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:16 PM

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i know i'll need the quadratic equation

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fuck, i can't do it

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help @steady forum

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:22 PM

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f

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so you know when you get the equation

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with the y substituted in

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2(2x+3) - x^2 + 2x = a

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:23 PM

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-x^2+6x+6=a

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:23 PM

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ye

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move that a to the left

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:23 PM

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alright, we're on the same page

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:23 PM

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wait how old are you just so i can get an idea of what stuff you done in school already

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:23 PM

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16

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:23 PM

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so have you done things like the discriminant of a quadratic

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:24 PM

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i'm norwegian though, so our curriculum might be a bit different

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:24 PM

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hm

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:24 PM

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well, i don't recognise that term

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:24 PM

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the discriminant is the b^2 - 4ac

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:24 PM

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oh yeah

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:24 PM

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and it tells you how many solutions the equation has

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:24 PM

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i know how to find the amount of solutions to a second degree

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but inserting it here is weird

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:25 PM

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so when you have -x^2 + 6x + 6-a = 0

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:25 PM

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you suddenly get the square of 60+a

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:25 PM

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you can insert the coefficients into the discriminant

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:25 PM

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wait, fuck

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missed a -

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:26 PM

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6^2 - 4(-1)(6-a)

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36 + 4(6-a)

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36 + 24 - 4a

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60 - 4a

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if that is less than 0, no real solutions

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if that is 0, there is 1 solution

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if it is more than 0, there are 2 real solutions

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so then you just do those three inequalities and rearrange

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to get your answer

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:27 PM

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are you familiar with CAS

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:28 PM

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cas?

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:28 PM

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it's a dumbass digital tool for solving equations and such, we have to use it for this hand-in

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||it is a piece of shit and does never do what you want it to||

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:29 PM

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lol

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f

violet wadi Nov 15, 2019, 6:29 PM

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it would legitimately be faster and easier to do this by hand

steady forum Nov 15, 2019, 6:30 PM

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rip

leaden flame Nov 15, 2019, 10:48 PM

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i can't decide what help chat to use, even w/ the help command. time intervals seem to be tight tonight, and i've been waiting for an hour to ask something

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should i put this in #community-meta instead?

fallen sparrow Nov 15, 2019, 10:54 PM

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#help-falafel and #help-croissant look empty @leaden flame

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Better to check manually sometimes if !f isn't clear

leaden flame Nov 15, 2019, 10:55 PM

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ok thanks

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i usually don't use the help chats where the last post in them was a question