it's probably a secret message (?
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
golden walrus
sand goblet
I doubt it's meant to be exhaustive
rough sapphire
spooky scary skeleton
Yeah, definitely just iterating over a dictionary
or list or some such
golden walrus
SPOOKY_TRIGGERS = {
# it's probably a secret message
'spooky': (r"\bspo{2,}ky\b", "\U0001F47B"),
'skeleton': (r"\bskeleton\b", "\U0001F480"),
'doot': (r"\bdo{2,}t\b", "\U0001F480"),
'pumpkin': (r"\bpumpkin\b", "\U0001F383"),
'halloween': (r"\bhalloween\b", "\U0001F383"),
'jack-o-lantern': (r"\bjack-o-lantern\b", "\U0001F383"),
'danger': (r"\bdanger\b", "\U00002620")
}```verbatim
rough sapphire
doot
dusty shadow
I remember that the old python discord website had a place where it listed several IDEs.
Is that page still available on the new website?
lime gazelle
@dusty shadow https://pythondiscord.com/pages/tools/#ides
lime gazelle
It's in Tools 😄 
gentle moss
as we were talking about last night
that is one of the dangers of touch typing
forgetting which window you're in
<_<
gentle moss
my biggest problem is synergy not switching context
so i end up still typing on my laptop
bitter jolt
i used to have a problem with synergy not syncing the clipboard properly
now i can screenshot on ubuntu and paste on macbook
after installing barrier
gentle moss
which version of synergy? 1 or 2?
bitter jolt
the open source fork ever since synergy stopped releasing nightly builds
rough sapphire
I just focus on the wrong window in i3 by accident all the time. I should enable focus indicators, but muh minimalism
vapid bluff
vmware is also an offender. keyboard focus only happens if your mouse is hovering over the vm window
gentle moss
or do you mean free synergy, which they stopped doing?
bitter jolt
yeah i mean the free nightlies which they stopped doing
bitter jolt
i use this now https://github.com/debauchee/barrier
gentle moss
i'm aware of barrier, yeah
bitter jolt
oof
gentle moss
does barrier use TLS yet?
last i checked it didn't
note to self: start injecting packets at my coworkers laptop
<_<
bitter jolt
tls as in tlsv1.2 vs ssl or as in something better than plaintext
i think it does support ssl at the very least i can see my server fingerprint if i'm in server mode
but i'm too lazy to remember how to generate a self-signed certificate in pem format so i just disabled it lel
gentle moss
hah
gentle moss
SSL Report all the things
undone berry
what a lovely group of people https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/535133827463643166/636529321351053322/72939543_10106638971235445_6466781577249554432_n.png
vapid bluff
kissinger is still alive? jesus
vapid bluff
all thats missing is donald rumsfeld as the dj
gentle moss
"There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know."
classic Rumsfeld
it's funny that he left out one other iteration
unknown knowns, things they knew but refused to admit
wooden silo
The Sparse Rumsfeld Matrix
plucky ridge
Alright, question for you folks. Do you suffer from or know someone who has "Aphantasia"? That is the inability to visualize something in your "mind's eye". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia The idea of this is fascinating to me
oak tangle
@plucky ridge My mental imagery is bad, but I would probably not score below 20 on that questionaire
I can't really visualize faces, scenes, or stuff like that well though
I do have more abstract visualizations, I'm pretty good at those, but there are no lively images involved
vapid bluff
i know someone with that
asked him how he reads books and such. in his head it's like a graph of facts and events.
vs visualizing it as if it were a movie
oak tangle
I can't really visualize books
oak tangle
Reading, mostly thinking about the story, and, when there's a scene, I do have a rough idea of what's where (more abstract, like an idea of "that's to the right" without visualizing the thing itself), but it's not like a lively realistic scene. I'm not completely lacking visualization, I just can't put it together into a coherent scene. So, if a book describes someone as having red clothing, I have a very vague impression of red or I have a vague image of dark hair, but I'm not putting a person together; let alone a complex scene.
I'm really bad a drawing stuff as well
I just can't put a drawing together in my head to draw, so proportions are always off and things never really come together
it's difficult to describe what it's like, though
I can't really get it across
It's just how I've always been
The strange thing is, I do have very vivid, visual dreams
So, I don't know ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I'd be the worst eye witness describing someone ever
Although, I do remember specific details, I just don't see it as a picture
sand goblet
@plucky ridge I think I might know someone
plucky ridge
Neat
fluid basin
hello
plucky ridge
I mean I guess it's just one of those things, you've lived with it so don't know any different, but just the idea of not being able to visualize something is so foreign a thought
Like how would drawing or describing something even work
plucky ridge
Well I guess I don't understand how someone who can't visualize something could draw something, you know?
Like if you can't see it how could it be described or depicted
plucky ridge
So it's almost like... how you can store shapes using various points of triangles and what have you
Or rather it's just something that's felt
solid pollen
A journalist just say at the TV a cloud charged of water
Because a cloud can be charged of something else than water apparently
vapid bluff
hmmm
vapid bluff
about 57
vapid bluff
nothing that would take this much space, no
not that i remember
i also have 32gb physical ram so altogether that's ~90 gb of memory 😐
solid pollen
You didn't rerendered avenger endgame in 4k lately? 😄
vapid bluff
hmm, i did try some stupid shit with memory allocation a couple days ago
not sure if/how it caused this though
tulip palm
@vapid bluff i've allocated 512GiB to swap before for the shits and giggles
at some point, when i get the opportunity, i wanna see if i can get 10TiB of swap
don't question me.
tulip palm
because i don't know what that is :D
solid pollen
I meant petabyte
rough sapphire
@tulip palm But why
Now, if it was a 512GB RAM disk, that'd be neat.
But swap? ugh.
rough sapphire
unbelievable
my headphones, for some reason, didn't charge at all overnight
fuck am I supposed to do on my plane ride now
small talk
n o
sometimes I see kids at the supermarket.. and I'm like.. hey kid, gimme your money
"Hey kid, do you even praise the sun?"
\[T]/
ask the pilot to share their flight plan with you
if it involves communicating with another person, I'm not interested
Keep knocking on the cockpit door. "LOOK, I REALLY NEED TO USE THE BATHROOM. YOU'VE BEEN IN THERE FOR OVER AN HOUR."
wasn't this gag in Airplane?
I loved that movie.. Leslie Nielsen.. gone too soon
tired osprey
@rough sapphire Run some fancy looking shit in a terminal until somebody in the plane panics and then everyone panics
rough sapphire
XD
left my lappy home :(
do it on your phone
don't think it'd be as menacing on me phone
tired osprey
Why did you leave your laptop behind !
rough sapphire
going to Amsterdam to see me gf so I don't think I'll need it
just add some sound effects
just unnecessary lugging it along
tired osprey
If you start thinking about wether you need it you need it xx
tired osprey
Well what are you gonna do then
rough sapphire
maybe try and sleep
only had 3 hours sleep tonight
Plus that whole, you know, forcing decryption at the border thing.
they can try
I'd just say "dunno, didn't bring the usb key with me"
you use yubikeys?
yep
"Whoops, looks like you can't hop aboard your plane."
summer cape
soooo
i learnt react.
to practice i wanna work on dashboard for my discord bot.
i am handling discord OAuth server side so how would I spit the python objects into react ?
i can use json tho
but any better options idk
or better way to achieve same
sand goblet
json.
gentle moss
need a name for a thing that bulk scans HIBP
gotta be like... service sounding so we can flog it to customers
"Email risk exposure service" type thing
specifically want to avoid the word breach
vestal briar
ASS - Assisted security squad
undone berry
Super Email eXposure Detction
vestal briar
STanDard library
gentle moss
Email Address Technology Automatically Scanning (for) Security
rough sapphire
And Confusing, Random Or Not Yielding Maths.
gentle moss
that's not helpful to my problem
vestal briar
Use a stupid startup name
vestal briar
Then make an overly complicated react website to introduce it
undone berry
Honestly, I think you should just push hard for the EATASS one
vestal briar
I second that motion
gentle moss
i'll definitely use it when talkinga bout it
no one is going to notice i'm saying eat ass
vestal briar
"Hello clients, let me introduce you to the EATASS system"
vestal briar
Will just be used internally for years to come
gentle moss
ass as in sass
vestal briar
Perfect
gentle moss
eat ass
gentle moss
bwyta asyn
gentle moss
Automated Email Security Scanning
gentle moss
idk, fucking business sounding names are hard
vestal briar
Reholm industrys automated email security scan
gentle moss
Credential Risk Exposure Scanner
gotta jam in them buzzwords
loads of places call them "dark web" scanners
undone berry
Why have you gotta avoid breach?
vapid bluff
Credential Reliability Automated Scanning Service
undone berry
We offer a CRASS service
vapid bluff
Autonomous Ultra Instinct
undone berry
risky bisky's password frisky
vapid bluff
ThreatPulse
gentle moss
haha
password frisky
:D
DANGER ALERT
Double Oh Not Today, Punk
email armour
rofl
vapid bluff
web condom
vapid bluff
no knee cap left unsmashed!
gentle moss
i wonder how many of these dark web scanners are straight up just using have i been pwned
Email Address Threat Intelligence Technology
i've just been calling it the pwn checker
undone berry
Password for Email Non-nonimal Intrusions System
gentle moss
haha
jagged fog
If I had nitro this would definitely be the most obvious choice for boosting
vestal briar
3 to go now?
jagged fog
yup
rough sapphire
Funny thing is you're probably not far off that many use HIBP
vestal briar
The js devs are back at it https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/comments/dmi2is/he_gotta_learn_somehow/
grave phoenix
Just plain ol' pure js + html
brave kernel
.TXT
No React. No Vue. No Ember. No HTML. He just sat there. Writing text. Like a psychopath.
rough sapphire
No React. No Vue. No Ember. No HTML. No Computer. He just sat there. Like a psychopath.
brave kernel
William Shakespeare was a weirdo indeed.
rough sapphire
No React. No Vue. No Ember. No HTML. No Computer. He just sat there. Like a psychopath.
I said that though lol
rough sapphire
you came in like a wrecking ball
vapid bluff
what would be the right channel for asking about naming a package on pypi?
vapid bluff
idk, it's not really related to python as a language
edgy magnet
well there are naming convention in python, so I think it would still apply
golden walrus
but it is related to Python as a community if there are "typical names"
rough sapphire
looks up if batmobile is a package name
vapid bluff
there are naming conventions in all sorts of things
ill go with a plain ol' help channel
golden walrus
yes, but this is specifically about PyPi as you said
if you want to talk about branding in general is a different thing
undone berry
Canada has universal health care right?
Sounds like air bnb scaremongering
Pretty awful company
gentle moss
yeah
plus they fuck up the rental market in cities
flats / houses that could be rented out to permanent tenants are short term leased for higher profits through airbnb
undone berry
Yeah, that's why they're an awful company. Portugal, Greece, and Spain have all had cities massively fucked over
And I assume lots of other places as well
gentle moss
the French government has been the most outspoken in demanding clarity on the purpose of an extension. “It is the French, always the French,” said one senior diplomat.
wonder why they don't like us
undone berry
demanding clarity on the purpose of an extension is pretty obviously a dumb position though. They know that the government doesn't want an extension, and that the opposition wants a referendum and/or general election. So who are they calling on for clarity?
I think its just posturing to show that they aren't happy about the whole thing rather than actually demanding clarity
gentle moss
basically they want to know if there's gonna be an election etc
before giving the extension
undone berry
but literally no one knows really
BoJo says yes to Dec 12th
opposition says no
I guess its trying to prompt someone into doing something
gentle moss
yeah
undone berry
- probably also except Northern Ireland and/or Ireland
undone berry
I can't see them actually saying no even if the vote doesn't pass
gentle moss
probably not.
the french have repeatedly stated that they want the british to fucking sort their shit out
so i'm not surprised by this move
undone berry
At this point I think Brexit should be decided with a cage fight between Macron and BoJo
or possibly Juncker and BoJo
verbal rivet
ngl i cant see why the house of commons rejected boris' deal, it sounded alright to me
but idk maybe they knew something about it we dont
gentle moss
it's not that alright because no one knows what's in it or what it means
there's no impact assessment
there's no study of what it actually conveys
so they want to scrutinise it before actually passing it
adding amendments if needs be
oak tangle
This is one of the most important deals in decades and Johnson wanted to push it through without proper scrutiny
gentle moss
the bill is 100 pages of stuff referencing a 500 page agreement for 40 years of UK/EU law
oak tangle
"Move this country forward, blind and possibly into an abyss but please don't think, discuss, or worry about that"
gentle moss
a few parts of the withdrawal bill seem to, according to very clever and experienced law people, grant excessive amounts of power to the government
not just during the transition period (to change / amend UK laws)
but after the brexit deal ends
which would be a serious shift in how our system of governance works
and would be very concerning
verbal rivet
yeah i suppose so, i didnt know that
but im hardly surprised given boris' track record either
i think its pretty tragic because i was initially quite optimistic about brexit
gentle moss
plus the deal he's got is actually worse that T.Mays
well, i never shared your optimism at all.
verbal rivet
hmm idk
gentle moss
no, it IS worse than mays deal
verbal rivet
i think that brexit could have been alright with a norway style deal
no no i mean idk about the optimism
sand goblet
did you really think the UK was going to do anything reasonable about it?
the vote wasn't meant to pass in the first place
verbal rivet
i had hopes that the leadership would behave like competent adults
sand goblet
they didn't hold the vote with the intention of dealing with a positive outcome
gentle moss
we literally have the best deal in Europe
verbal rivet
yeah ofc, and the blame really lies with cameron
probably, but the eu isnt amazing either
gentle moss
our complacency in our ignorance of the EU and EU politics is why we're in this shit show in the first place
verbal rivet
i wasnt a leaver, but i have my reservations
verbal rivet
same, and i live in london
gentle moss
i have a vague idea of the structure of the EU government and how it works
how legislation is created etc
but you know who DOES know who their MEP's are?
the people who put UKIP / Brexit Party in there
verbal rivet
i think that its created by a group of unelected people and then passed by meps
gentle moss
yeah, that's because the media are arses who can't be bothered to inform people and would rather spit out rhetoric
same for the government tbh
when the EU abolished roaming charges the UK government gave a press statement claiming they did it
gentle moss
when the EU did something good, the UK government would take credit
when the EU did something seen as bad, BAD BAD EVIL EU UNELECTED
sand goblet
Asked how he feels about the current Brexit impasse, Varadkar said Britain leaving the EU is only stage one of the process, and compared the proceedings to a divorce.
“There is the sense that we will get a deal. They will ratify it and they will leave the European Union, but then the next thing starts, which is negotiating a new relationship,” he said.
“What we’re doing at the moment is a kind of divorce. Members are deciding, making sure that the kids are looked after, deciding the financial settlement that type of thing,” Varadkar said.
“The next step then is, how do we get on with each other after divorce because we’re still going to need to have a friendship of some sort,” he added.
verbal rivet
idk i think that the eu is a great organisation but they are very deeply flawed, andwhilst i think its best to fix that from within i felt that moving away wasnt an entirely bad decision
oak tangle
"very deeply flawed" in what way?
gentle moss
norway style deal would've sucked dicks too
in fact any deal outside of the EU is a bad deal
they're a super powerful trading block and our closest
even with a free trade agreement we'd have to align with their regulations
oak tangle
The anti-EU lobby has been blocking governance reforms for almost two decades all the while claiming that governance of the EU is broken.
gentle moss
which would mean accepting rules we have no say in
oak tangle
And despite all that, it has brought a lot of shared economic advantages
gentle moss
which is the opposite of "taking back control" or whatever
verbal rivet
for instance, a large part of the latvian economy rested on the sugar beet industry at one point.They then joined the eu and leislation was passed t5at5 effectively meant that only german sugar beet could be traded, destroying their economy
one sec ill brb
vestal briar
I mean we do get a say in it, something called democracy?
gentle moss
the UK is a wanker when it comes to vetoing good stuff by the EU
like anti-tax avoidance / evasion legislation
sand goblet
latvia is part of the EU, @verbal rivet ?
if it was, it could've vetoed that
if it wasn't, well, no big surprise that the EU is taking care of its own members
gentle moss
interesting
seems like Latvia couldn't compete against other sugar producers in the trading block
Before accession to the EU only domestic sugar could be used in the food industry, while sugar imports were subject to special licenses. After accession, Latvia had to open its sugar market to other EU producers.
seems like they were using protectionism to keep the industry afloat.
verbal rivet
yeah, which isnt entirely6 negative
teir post5 soviet5 economy was totally relying on it
sand goblet
are you okay over there
verbal rivet
sorry broken keyboard lmao
verbal rivet
i think so
sand goblet
so then what the heck did they expect
to be able to join a big trading bloc and not have to do trade?
verbal rivet
they might have expected to be protected whilst they got back on their feet
undone berry
They joined in 2004, and the Sugar thing was in 2004
oak tangle
I think it's unfair to blaim the sugar reforms for the issues in Latvia. The EU has supported the sugar industry for over 50 years by setting prices way above market price; that special protection was phased out
verbal rivet
im not entirely blaming them, but i know people who were personally affected by it
oak tangle
To say that they only allow production in Germany is quite misleading
verbal rivet
yes i had the story told to me by people who were affected, didnt realise that wasnt quite true 😅
but then again idk whether there were any other major sellers of sugar beet
oak tangle
Yes, there were and are
verbal rivet
also the eu hasnt been great for coastal fishsing towns in the uk
undone berry
yeah
verbal rivet
hang on a sec
undone berry
absolute bullshit
verbal rivet
how so?
gentle moss
we actually have great quotas
undone berry
something like 95% of the fishing quota goes to huge companies
gentle moss
and the majority of our fish is sold on main land EU anyway
undone berry
which isn't the EU's fault
oak tangle
The EU allowed individual countries to continue to use some of the agricultural subsidies for the sugar beet industry, 14 countries did do that
verbal rivet
in which case i stand corrected
gentle moss
this is the problem with brexit
there's so much misinformation
and getting to the heart of it takes a shit load of research
oak tangle
Boris has admitted that he doesn't mind lying as long as it brings him closer to his goals
verbal rivet
true, but i still feel like a lot of people are lacking balance
undone berry
what does that mean?
verbal rivet
i think that the eu isnt perfect, although it is best for the uk
oak tangle
I don't think there are a lot of people who claim the EU is perfect
undone berry
Practically no one argues its perfect
gentle moss
i never viewed brexit as a left / right wing politics sort of affair. i've always viewed it as a purely pragmatic thing
undone berry
its just vastly better than any alternative
gentle moss
and the EU sure as fuck isn't perfect
verbal rivet
and i think that a lot of debate and argument nowadays is characterized by polarization
undone berry
and practically all arguments against it are lies
verbal rivet
i dont even know about vastly better though
undone berry
and i think that a lot of debate and argument nowadays is characterized by polarization That polarisation is the direct effect of misinformation
oak tangle
It's how the anti-EU lobby tries to paint pro-EU advocates: They create the strawman that every advocate is deeply in love with the EU and think the EU is perfect
gentle moss
it's allowed it to become the biggest trading block on the planet and allows small countries to punch far above their weight in trade
verbal rivet
although a very important one
undone berry
I think the idea that the EU debate is lacking balance is pretty absurd.
oak tangle
Meanwhile, most pro-EU political parties and organizations have proposed reforms time and time again, mostly blocked by the anti-EU lobby to keep the current status quo
sand goblet
Ves is right, I've seen that too
gentle moss
yup
UKIP are the fucking worse for it in EU parliament
if they even show up to vote at all
verbal rivet
hmmm i would say absurd
undone berry
Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall did more to help British fisherman than Nigel Farage - who was on the EU fisheries commitee
verbal rivet
but yes i think that ukip's presence in the eu parliament is highly destructive
undone berry
absolute trash
verbal rivet
oh yeah, i cant stand nigel farage
gentle moss
he actually missed a vote on fishing regs because he was...
undone berry
hmmm i would say absurd what does that even mean
verbal rivet
sorry *wouldnt say
gentle moss
giving a campaign speech about fisheries being treated like shit in the UK
undone berry
Then give an example where the balance isn't fair
gentle moss
the problem with the EU debate has always been that one side lists the facts and the other side talks shite
you can't argue against people who refuse to see the truth
verbal rivet
its not about fairness, its about quality of debate
undone berry
what does that mean?
Debate is bad because one side jams misinformation down everyone's throats
verbal rivet
for example I hear a lot of people ranting about how totally destrcutive the eu is, and thats misinforming
verbal rivet
and also i hear a lot of people (probably not here) saying how the eu is totally angelic and has never done anything wrong and anyone who opposes it is racist
which is also misinforming
verbal rivet
though theres more misinformation and one sidedness on the leave side for sure
undone berry
and also i hear a lot of people (probably not here) saying how the eu is totally angelic and has never done anything wrong and anyone who opposes it is racist Pretty much never heard that. I can link to articles from a bunch of different places containing the anti-eu lies
gentle moss
i would say, looking at on balance, the EU is pretty fucking good.
verbal rivet
idk i actually hear that quite a lot charlie :/
oak tangle
I am yet to find a pro-EU party (although, admittedly, I'm mostly familiar with pro-EU parties in my own country) that states that the EU is perfect or hasn't pushed for reforms in the last 15 years.
undone berry
https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-express-bananas-eu theres some lies from the anti-eu side
sand goblet
for the difference in attitude between the US and Europe you just have to compare the US legislation with Denmark's
verbal rivet
oh, the legendary bananas 😂
gentle moss
WORSHIP THE CONSTITUTION VOODOOOODE
sand goblet
in the US it's legal to burn any flag, except the US flag
in Denmark, it's illegal to burn any flag, except the Danish flag
gentle moss
hah
that sort of banana fact shit is everywhere though
like "THE EU HAS 10,000 REGULATIONS FOR PILLOWS!"
undone berry
Pretty much 10/10 things in there are lies
verbal rivet
hhhahah
gentle moss
all they did was run a find on the whole EU block of EU law and found references to pillows 10,000 times
sand goblet
my response is always "good"
gentle moss
regulations are good for the most part
sand goblet
because who wants to use a toothbrush that hasn't been regulated?
who knows where that's been?
gentle moss
deregulation causes shit like the 2008 crash
or butt hole toothbrushes
as g points out
verbal rivet
hm im actually pretty sure i heard the banana "fact" on the bbc a couple of years ago
interesting
verbal rivet
ah ok
undone berry
Brussels deemed that oven gloves must be able to withstand the pressure of 200c heat causing the price to increase.” also, this is one of the lies the Express printed
and imo
gentle moss
or straight up lies
undone berry
that would be a good thing
verbal rivet
yeah im saying im pretty sure i heard one of the facts listed in the article on the bbc
which is a lie
oak tangle
Anyway, the UK will be fine in the long run, if they manage to get good trade deals. It will cause lower wages at the low end of the spectrum to be competitive and they will probably need to drop some of their quality levels for the US market, but as long as the EU market stays in tact, they could actually do well. It's a bit of a prisoner's dilemma, because if more countries take that the "exit"-route, that will fall down.
sand goblet
200c is kind of low
undone berry
much harder to find from europhiles
gentle moss
the BBC failed to challenge a lot of shit that was clearly bollocks.
verbal rivet
yeah i was surprised by that
gentle moss
standard of living in the UK will definitely fall for decades
verbal rivet
and yeah there are much more lies on the leave/skeptic side for sure
oak tangle
They're losing some international influence, but that I guess they're okay with that.
undone berry
not just more
gentle moss
we've lost shit loads of large businesses
undone berry
> 99% of the lies are from one side
gentle moss
no one wants to be headquartered here anymore
which they did for access to the EU markets
undone berry
but
oak tangle
They were a major talking partner because of their influence within the EU; they'll lose that. On their own, they quite small compared to the international powerhouses
undone berry
you've just been arguing
that there wasn't enough balance
which was utter horseshit
gentle moss
yeah, people bang on about the UK being the "X largest economy in the world" but that's gonna fucking plummet
even after the 2008 crash we recovered about as fast as greece / spain
thanks to poor governance
oak tangle
They're not as fucked as my country would be without the EU, so, hey, it's something?
sand goblet
that's only because they still have their own currency
which, if you think you're gonna leave again, is a good thing to have kept
gentle moss
yeah, kiss good bye to rotterdam if .nl leaves the EU
oak tangle
Rotterdam, Schiphol, but that's just the start
We're one of the largest agricultural exporters and our whole economy is based on import, export and shared markets
gentle moss
schiphol is one of my favourite airports
oak tangle
So, you like chaos
gentle moss
nah it's just nice inside
undone berry
isn't chaos just a default feature of airports
gentle moss
heathrow is a close 2nd
sand goblet
Could be Rotterdam, or anywhere
gentle moss
liverpool or rome
sand goblet
'Cause rotterdam is anywhere, anywhere alone
gentle moss
¬_¬
gentle moss
yeh
it was theorised that 1 in 10 british households had at least 1 beautiful south album
verbal rivet
huh
someone told me that the eu legal system wasnt effective because you cant arrest ships, but that was a fucking lie apparently 😎
gentle moss
sorry, you said arrest ships and i just imagined a confused police officer with handcuffs standing next to a container ship
verbal rivet
hahaha
gentle moss
:OOOO
gentle moss
nice
sand goblet
turns out squarespace can import all the shit from wordpress too
I am okay with this
gentle moss
i think AWS has a feature like that too now
summer rampart
skill level?
rough sapphire
Hard to say
sly swift
Hard to say what?
rough sapphire
Yeah, that's the usual start
It should be something challenging for someone that knows Java at a beginner level
But most importantly fun
She knows lots of theory but almost no practical experience
verbal rivet
try an n body solver using the barnes hut algorithm? should give her lots of chances to apply theoretical knowledge about complexity and run time, and produces pretty results @rough sapphire.
rough sapphire
Thanks, that's a pretty good idea! I'll add it to the list 😁
twilit marlin
so people, if you ever play stellaris, remember
while in war, you have to capture colonies of this empire also
and to do this, you gotta get your army on your fleet
plucky ridge
Which one is Stellaris?
twilit marlin
stellaris is paradox 4x strategy
about galaxy and stuff
you be pacifistic genocider, be democratic genocider, be totalitaristic genocider
i mean, by paradox as a studio
not as in paradox-paradox
plucky ridge
I'm noticing a consistent genocide theme
twilit marlin
well, i mean, you can be pacifistic here
and if someone assaults you, just hire mercenaries to get them a good lesson
while retaining your happy people and building your own utopia
but you can also genocide races and make them your slaves
or just be democratic and hunt for more resources
a lot of options to choose from actually
rough sapphire
isn't Magicka about killing another characters?
sand goblet
I mean sure, but that doesn't mean it's about genocide
rough sapphire
of course it does
rough sapphire
of course you're wrong
sand goblet
Am I now
rough sapphire
How can you tell that the characters you're killing aren't the entire population of an specific species?
sand goblet
How can you tell that they are?
sand goblet
That's some pretty low grade trolling lol
gentle moss
weak
sly swift
discord is made of different programming language like javascript,objective-c ...
what is useage of python in discord
how people are able to create bot with python but python is not used for creating discord.
plucky ridge
@sly swift All you have to do to use/make a bot for Discord is to have it tap into their API, which can be done in any language that can send requests over the internet. What Discord was made in is irrelevant
sly swift
Alright.
rough sapphire
thats the beauty of API's
different languages have a universal standard to communicate with each other
rough sapphire
is it okay to set status?
rough sapphire
well as long as the status isn't against the rules i don't see why it wouldn't be
i.e. an NSFW status, or a status that contains someone's private information, or a status that gives people help with doing illegal things, or anything like that, is probably not a good idea
robust sierra
statuses are cool ImportErr rates 11/10
rough sapphire
I strongly agree, they are a game changer. And if the bot's can get them too then it's even better!
ebon geode
potato
sand goblet
That's.. Certainly a username
rough sapphire
@sand goblet You've never smashed your keyboard with your face and made a username that way?
sand goblet
Nope
rough sapphire
You're missing out
gentle moss
that's how i got mine
rough sapphire
Your name or username
gentle moss
i have a very pointy face don't ask questions
vestal briar
I wonder what bisks real name is
vestal briar
Hi Jack box
gentle moss
hello
OH FUCK
dox'd myself
wtf
i just checked bus routes and they've cut 4 routes and replaced them with 2
that serve a much larger area, don't stop as frequently and completely ignore some places
where i live used to have an hourly to the nearest small city
wankers.
that's gonna mess with people who rely on buses for their jobs
i just wanted to go to the shops for chips
robust sierra
haha
my chip shop is right next to my house
oh right you cook, you want to buy chips in a bag
@gentle moss dont you like have an iceland that you can walk to or smth
oak tangle
I still get confused by the chips vs crisps thing
gentle moss
nah oven chips
and no
the closest place to get chips right now is like a 40 minute walk there and back
oak tangle
I know what's what at your side of abyss between Europe and the UK, but it always needs to click when reading it.
robust sierra
crisps
oak tangle
Yeah, I know
robust sierra
CRISPS
oak tangle
I know what's what over there, but it still gives me pause for a second
Well, crisps is just not used here as a term
It's chips and friet/patat
And chips are not your chips
robust sierra
back in my days we used to mispronounce crisps as crips
gentle moss
i sometimes say chips by mistake because i watch too much american media and hung around americans far too long
except on the internet
sand goblet
But do you have mince pies?
gentle moss
no because they don't have mince in them
sand goblet
They have mincemeat in them
sand goblet
death it is, then
gentle moss
c of e now are you?
thorn snow
The Outer World is such a blurry mess. It sucks looking at it
Good thing I didn't buy it
vestal briar
Uk clock goes back in 7 mins
rough sapphire
@vestal briar Goes back?
rough sapphire
UK and their weird daylight savings time
US doesn't have to worry about it for another week!
Well, the 3rd.. Technically 8 days.
sand goblet
We won't have to worry about it at all in 2021
rough sapphire
Let me know how that works out for you guys lol
sand goblet
Apparently it's left up to each country to decide which side of daylight savings to pick
I think Ireland is picking summer
If the UK picks winter then Ireland will be an hour ahead of it, despite being further west
rough sapphire
That's strange
sand goblet
And it'd be ahead of Northern Ireland too
So that'll be fun
Anyway, I'd better sleep. o/
rough sapphire
o/
rough sapphire
I have just a random question
did admins change the role colors to be more fallish or have they always been like that
sorry, im new here
summer rampart
The colors have always (for the most part) been like that, this isn't a seasonal change
rough sapphire
nice to know thanks
solid pollen
BTW contributors are always been green?
summer rampart
as far as I recall, but I have not been here long
rough sapphire
WHAT A LEGEND
SERVER NEWBIE ALREADY HAS A CRAP TON OF ROLES
HOW CAN I ACHIEVE YOUR POWER LEVELS
????
AN ADMIN!!!!!!
Gimme gimme
by being a productive member of the community, I imagine
solid pollen
Here you have a description of each roles https://github.com/python-discord/meta/wiki/Roles
solid pollen
Well, the role Rockstar was renamed
cerulean granite
tame terrace
@solid pollen don't link that one anymore, I'm gonna retire it now. instead link https://pythondiscord.com/pages/roles/
frosty berry
i don't think there is such a thing as too dumb to be a productive member, at least if you can read and write
robust sierra
@glass gorge that's a shitty status
glass gorge
Thanks
gentle moss
Floppy's Log; Star date 20191027 13.20. Soft and squidgy.
vapid bluff
what are the strikethroughs and that green o in serious supposed to achieve?
dam bb who can resist that formatting skill
oh i think theres an italic e inmore in the last sentence
vestal briar
Sexxy
lost hornet
mmmmm, learned how to use git last night
had I known that it automagically modifies your file structure based on which branch you select, I would have started way earlier lmao
frosty berry
git is great
lost hornet
I can't name how many times that version control would have saved so much time
frosty berry
and yet when you tell people that it will save them tons of time, they don't believe you
ah, you almost got me there 😄
lost hornet
Like, how often I try to remake features in my application before it's even done, being able to just branch when I completely rewrite a feature and potentially give up halfway through and just stash it for later without having to cross my fingers and hope that I can ctrl+z back until I started rewriting.
gentle moss
yurp
first thing when i started doing code at work was to set up a local git lab
copy and pasting stuff for backups only works for so long
lost hornet
really, it's like a long term large scale computer managed ctrl+z/ctrl+shift+z system
in my opinion
Although I'm a solo hobbyist developer right now.
frosty berry
remembers the server in production with some_module.php.old files littering the file structure… what a wasteland that app was_
lost hornet
I used to do that but with folders
frosty berry
it's even more than that, merging different state of the app and solving conflicts is quite powerful
lost hornet
well, if i attempted to version control, I would make a folder that's just called "test" and copy paste my project there and work on it
gentle moss
that's what i used to do
but as my projects got larger i found incremental rollback and forking was super useful
lost hornet
I'm making a django site, only 30 more minutes on Corey's deployment step of his tutorial, then I'm done with his tutorial.
I still have a few features that I want to add though, but I wanted a way to revert if I ended up rewriting something or modifying the database wrong
lost hornet
there's probably an AE server
rough sapphire
@vapid bluff what are the strikethroughs and that green o in serious supposed to achieve? - To attempt to beat spam filters is my guess.
vapid bluff
success we can all aspire to
rough sapphire
Beating spam filters, you mean? 🤔
vapid bluff
um
sand goblet
Most spam I get claim to be iPhone IAPs
vapid bluff
no scott YOURE THE ALIEN
rough sapphire
I got a phone call the other day saying my Apple account had been hacked
I was impressed, actually. Hacking accounts I don't even have.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
sand goblet
Yup!
vapid bluff
someone in brazil was using my spotify account for like 2 months before i noticed
got one of those 'get premium free for 9 cents' or whatevr emails but it was in portuguese
rough sapphire
It bothers me how a lot of sites/services don't give an Account History of IP addresses that have connected.
sand goblet
Yeah, that's always a very useful feature
lost hornet
Someone was using my spotify a while ago
I didn't even force a logout for quite a while
I was just curious as to what they listened to
I wish there was an account history so that I could flag it as suspicious activity, like google has for their accounts
maybe I should add an account history to my site
rough sapphire
100% you should
rough sapphire
expression of WTF?
but if you want a deep analisis, this is the wrong server
like a bad kind of surprised
lol
rough sapphire
why you need to know the expression name?
well
You should read a book about it then
sand goblet
sigh
rough sapphire
You're underestimating the complexity of behavioral analysis
pale egret
rough sapphire
well, i don't know a lot about it
errant urchin
rough sapphire
But if you can't identify a apparently simple emotion, then you should read an book for beginners
Or do a course
i think your premise is wrong
And that is what i'm talking about
when you say everything relates to happy or sad, do you mean emotions, or everything everything?
Your lack of vocabulary prove that you should know more about behavioral analysis
i mean
The vocabulary to determine what is what, is usually close related with the science
rough sapphire
👀 This channel name
deep drum
sand goblet
PHP 5 just tastes like dust and cobwebs
And the occasional 0day
With that slight hint of artificial sweetener
PHP 5: Sponsored by Canderel
rough sapphire
PHP 5, the "Why does glass taste like blood?" edition
sand goblet
Hahaha
rough sapphire
Mr Robot Spoiler: ||Didn't expect Tyrell to die, but the writing in this season is garbage...||
rough sapphire
what's TLS
pine vector
must not click spoiler... 😬
didn't get a chance to watch tonight...
frosty berry
Fuck, i inadvertly clicked
Instant regret
I watched first ep of bojack season 6 last night, thankfuly was too tired to binge watch the rest, i'll have to pace myself on this one
rough sapphire
Lol they don’t even have the full season 6 released yet
So feel free to watch all of it now
The rest are coming out on Jan 31
rough sapphire
@pine vector You're really not missing much. It lives up to this episode's name.
frosty berry
yeah, i know, but even waiting two months is going to be grueling i think, it's always like that
so i'll try to take a few weeks to enjoy them
vapid bluff
real sick of this shit
there's an option to tell google news that you dont want stories like this
and ive selected that every single time one of these pops up
but they just keep pushing this crap into the feed
done with google news. what alternatives would you guys recommend?
sand goblet
A real feed reader like newsblur, and the sites you actually want to read
vapid bluff
does newsblur have an option to filter by topic
im not too kean on going through a lot of config
just want to get a dose of general news, like what youd see on a news program
minus stupid fluff like the royals
sand goblet
It does have tags
Because feed entries have them, so it can expose them
I'm not 100% sure if the free version can filter though
But it definitely wants to know which tags you like and which you don't
vapid bluff
cheers ill check it out
sand goblet
It's frankly the only decent online feed reader I've found
If you find a nicer one let me know
Haha
sand goblet
@vapid bluff okay, yep, if you click the tag until it's red, posts with that tag won't show up anymore
(once you reload the feed)
modern island
cd /d C:/
python -m twine upload *
sand goblet
ah yes, let's tell people to upload their entire hard drive to pypi
that won't go wrong at all
plucky ridge
Enough to mute but only because you're intentionally trying to start beef for no reason
wheat shale
We need to fix this. 
plucky ridge
@wheat shale It's fixed now, I'm on my 4th cup of tea
shell raptor
Migrated from #esoteric-python
# Venn diagram programming?
fizzbuzz(n) =
from [ ( n%3==0 { ) n%5==0 } ]
mapto [ n ( "Fizz" { "FizzBuzz" ) "Buzz" } ]
Is that valid code?
shell raptor
No. Just a thought...
It's like this:
<b> bold <i> bold AND italic </b> italic </i>
```in html@plucky ridge Good. 😄
weak turtle
rough sapphire
Eheh, i hate that
flat pike
hey guys
quick mantle
👋
flat pike
😄
flat pike
Can someone tell me the different between back end developer and software developer, and solution architect?
quick mantle
back end is a specialized role, only dealing with the server side of things not the client
solution architect is not a term im familiar with
sounds like debug work
rough sapphire
The difference between backend dev and software dev is simple. Backend is working usually working with web application and server management; so more in the web development field. Handling sql queries etc. Whereas software dev is restricted to, you know, software. Building client applications, scripting, etc. Think of the difference using spotify. You would have a software dev work on the spotify client, or what the user sees. A backend dev would work with the server, make sure requests are being handled properly etc
A solution architect is the person in charge of leading the practice and introducing the overall technical vision for a particular solution
So yeah.
It's debug work
A solution architect is given a problem, and they have to figure out how exactly to craft and come up with a solution
frosty berry
I beg to disagree, solution architect is not about (de)bugs, it's about creation new software to fit a particular purpose, think design, conception, and usualy a few steps before coding, so you know what you are going to build before doing it, some coding can of course be part of the design process, but it's not limited to that, UML is another common tool for that.
rough sapphire
I guess you're right on that
frosty berry
Backend and front end are two sides of a website, they usually use different technologies, as js is about the only option in front, and you usuallyhave to also know css, html, and js technologies like react or vue.js to put that together in a smart way. Back is running on the server, it processes and answers requests from the front, it's usually concerned about managing a database, checking permissions, implementing critical business logic on the data, and serialising the data to send to the front.
You can use python or about any language in the backend.
frosty berry
This might give you some ideas about software architecture practices
https://t.co/fXuqgpv8km
But a lot of software are not really designed, but coded directly, as they say ”weeks of debugging can save hours of design”
@flat pike
tiny raven
We live in a society
grave phoenix
Just to suffer
vestal briar
r/im14andthisisdeep
oak tangle
@frosty berry
”weeks of debugging can save hours of design”
Hey, no need to make it personal.
Although I'm also guilty of the opposite: overthinking
Maybe I just suck at getting things done
frosty berry
Haha, don't we all
you never get it just right, sometime you overthink it, sometime you don't plan nearly enough, sometime you just ponder the wrong things, this is a hard job
flat pike
Thank you guys! This actually helped clear up a lot. What kind of skill set can I learn through using selenium that would translate well to a marketable skill in python development?
undone berry
Some scumbag next to me in Starbucks is trying to indoctrinate a first year uni student into herbalife
V sad
gentle moss
turn around and tell them you've got a pyramid to sell them
solid pollen
@fallen sparrow
E:\PyDis\site>python -m timeit "with open('manage.py') as f:" " lines = f.readlines()"
5000 loops, best of 5: 86.5 usec per loop
E:\PyDis\site>python -m timeit "with open('manage.py') as f:" " lines = f.read().split('/n')"
5000 loops, best of 5: 80.4 usec per loop```There is almost no differences
fallen sparrow
Memory not time
fallen sparrow
readlines() loads the whole file in one go, you almost always don't want to process the whole thing at once but instead line by line
this example isn't the best
fallen sparrow
Nah I've tried loading huge files with it, it's not
It's recommended to never use it
golden walrus
I'd rather be conscious about its fallbacks than just "not use it, ever"
so, it loads the entire file and parses it, instead of reading line by line
plucky ridge
@solid pollen readlines() isn't. readline() is
tulip palm
the file handle (the x in with open("file.txt") as x) can be used to iterate over lines as if it was a generator.
plucky ridge
I totally forgot about that as well
plucky ridge
For people's enjoyment, if you haven't seen this before: https://botnik.org/content/harry-potter.html
frosty berry
great, now i want a tshirt with "hermione has forgotten how to dance" on it
plucky ridge
I still think my favorite line in that whole thing is: "You are Hagrid now"
frosty berry
yeah, it's quite good too
summer rampart
To Harry, Ron was a loud, slow and soft bird.
sand goblet
The fact that this is a real book astounds me
sand goblet
I wonder if there are any cheaper android devices that exist just for the purpose of home control
I need something to give to my grandparents exclusively to use the sonos app
rough sapphire
Some kind of tablet, probably
fallen sparrow
some kind of tablet from aliexpress, maybe xiaomi or some other?
sand goblet
Not xiaomi anyway, their rom is full of ads
rough sapphire
Ew
edgy magnet
You can buy them a laptop, then install and run xamarin on it, imagine it's an android tablet slightly bigger than usual
run
sand goblet
Hahaha
fallen sparrow
lol true, they have a good performance to price usually though and it's not hard to remove the adware
rough sapphire
I've got an old Nexus 7 laying around somewhere. Probably something of those specs would work.