Depends on the company
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
tame pier
lime gazelle
@grim pelican in a vm
summer rampart
@rough sapphire by fuzzing you mean the generating garbage input to try and get unintended side effects right? Im not familiar
grim pelican
that's safer yea
grim pelican
you're connecting to a network of the most talented hackers on the planet, you need to take serious precaution
tame pier
With the goal of finding a sexy effect you want from the thingy
rough sapphire
@summer rampart that's the โ of it
tame pier
Like crashing
rough sapphire
gist, even, what the hell keyboard
tame pier
FIST
sand goblet
That's the fist of it!
lime gazelle
@grim pelican aside from vm, what else?
tame pier
Wow gdude is online
sand goblet
As my old sysadmin would say: Also a verb
tame pier
Oh, it's 0115 lmao
grim pelican
i'm not a great person to ask, i know very little about security and pentesting
tame pier
xx is the dude to ask
grim pelican
a vm is a pretty good start though, i believe that's what HTB recommends
lime gazelle
I guess vm on athe throwaway laptop would be best
grim pelican
you can check the subreddit and discord server for more help
rough sapphire
a vm with an isolated network is good enough, no need to go all out with a burner laptop
tame pier
I woke up before 10 for no reason
lime gazelle
@rough sapphire my router is my cellphone 
grim pelican
though a throwaway with kali on it would be dope
sand goblet
I was too busy with my family @tame pier
rough sapphire
also, make sure you scan your own public IP to make sure you don't accidentally expose something spicy to the internet
tame pier
my voice is my password verify
rough sapphire
oh then that's good
sand goblet
Did mention it in the announce channel haha
rough sapphire
probably don't even need to scan yourself then
lime gazelle
@rough sapphire why?
tame pier
You mentioned you were busy when I checked, wasn't sure what that mean gotcha
sand goblet
Jackbox role when
sand goblet
Haha
rough sapphire
it'd be pretty bad if someone managed to capture your IP, saw that your router web interface is exposed to wan, and that it happens to have a public exploit
grim pelican
god the mods here suck
summer rampart
Ikr
summer rampart
Sniped
tame pier
Plebs
rough sapphire
but if you're hotspotting yourself, you should be safe on that front
grim pelican
hahaha
tame pier
Fisk is fool
grim pelican
there's another off topic name if i've ever seen one
tame pier
!otname add fisk-is-fool
royal lakeBOT
:ok_hand: Added fisk-is-fool to the names list.
sand goblet
I'm pretty sure the names aren't changing
grim pelican
hahahahah
lime gazelle
@rough sapphire ๐ค wouldn't they need to be in the same wan as my router to do anything tho?
grim pelican
!otn s fisk
tame pier
!otname add channel-names-never-change
sand goblet
The names were the same yesterday, and the day before, though
grim pelican
it is now yea
rough sapphire
@lime gazelle wan = wide-area network. Unless you're behind a corporate network or some other interesting setup, this means the internet
lime gazelle
@rough sapphire oh.
rough sapphire
you're probably thinking of lan, which is the local network
lime gazelle
No well, I thought you meant like
A city's or country's network
Idk if I'm remembering shit wrong from school tho
lime gazelle
China?
tame pier
Thanks to entrenched interests and fucking bullshit politics, in the USA at least
rough sapphire
well, sure, I get what you mean, but at that point you're already exposed to the rest of the internet and intermediate devices will happily route to you
rough sapphire
you usually can't expose ports on LTE devices as you might share a public facing IP with another device and that just can't really happen, depending on your providers NAT implementation
but it's better to check anyways, better safe than sorry
rough sapphire
nmap your public facing ip is the easiest way, I guess
tame pier
Yes, though if you have the RAM 3 or 4 GB is better
lime gazelle
Hm
Could I afford to get it to 4 if my machine has 8?
Like idk what the ideal ratio is
tame pier
Yes
rough sapphire
that's fine
tame pier
It'll only use the RAM it needs
The setting just specifies the maximum amount it can utilize
rough sapphire
just download more RAM
lime gazelle
Yes
Quick poll: in an rpg, which do you think makes for a cooler character? Guns, Swords, bare handed?
lime gazelle
Hm, indeed
vestal briar
I had a dream where Craig Charles (lister in red dwarf) died and it was a national holiday
lime gazelle
Has anyone of you ever tried/heard of codingame?๐ค
stark prawn
I think they are trying to start some challenges in #591999731325075487
lime gazelle
I know there was a site about programming bots ai in python but I don't think it's this one
jagged fog
golden walrus
what's that?
delicate valley
Second edition of pathfinder
trying to get ahead of the character creator game
but HOLY HELL
So
many
FEATS
head-desk
There are 207 feats excluding class feats
Two
Hundred
and seven
and 191 more feats from just four classes. There are 12 classes.
inhale
Exhale
sorry
needed to get that off my chest
back to the grindstone
vestal briar
Was just clicking through npm
That's what their main source of revenue is
A page that doesn't work on fucking firefox
rough sapphire
languid silo
@rough sapphire cyka blyat
solid pollen
Just out of curiosity, where do you get your ssl certificate for https://pydis.com ?
solemn crown
rough sapphire
@solid pollen cloudflare?
solid pollen
Cloudflare deliver certificate ? Didnโt know
rough sapphire
sand goblet
@solid pollen It's a combination of Cloudflare and Let's Encrypt
sand goblet
I wonder if anyone else remembers Crash Twinsanity
good game but very much defined by its soundtrack, haha
grave phoenix
Idk if having a topical chat for async is a good idea
sand goblet
Seems a bit too specialized
grave phoenix
Well, async seems like a big topic to me, but that's why I'm doubting
oak tangle
It is, yeah. It's come up before as well. At the moment, I think a lot of the questions we see related to asyncio are related to discord.py and I'm not sure we see enough activity yet to really warrant a seperate topical channel. On the other hand, a lot of major frameworks are upping their asyncio support, like Django will do in their upcoming 3.0 release. I guess we'll have to keep an eye on it to see if there's enough asyncio-specific activity to warrant a channel.
grave phoenix
I see
I just thought that because yesterday I was dealing with a guy mixing two event loops in #databases
lime gazelle
Has anyone of you tried to follow these guys lessons?
(One sec)
If so, what would be a good follow-up to this?
lime gazelle
Should I ask in #cybersecurity ?
frosty berry
@sand goblet thanks for that spotify share, this is awesome
frosty berry
i'm on totem hokum, aka, the flight of the bumblebee acapela, this is crazy
frosty berry
that's very fun to listen to, very well done
lime gazelle
Ducks or geese?
sand goblet
Hey @rough sapphire, this made me think of you, even if it's a different kind of pentesting lol https://youtu.be/rnmcRTnTNC8
golden walrus
amazing logo
inland snow
Hello guys. I have made a discord bot which I can talk to as a bonus using selenium and the Cleverbot. The selenium has stopped working on my RPi though and I have realized that using selenium is not the best way anyways. Are there some free simple chatbot alternatives with free API's? Just for fun? I have not found any. All I have found are bots to schedule reminders and administrative stuff like that. Any ideas for a way to go?
rough sapphire
@sand goblet I wonder if anyone else remembers Crash Twinsanity - I've stopped caring about anything Crash, what with the complete joke that the recent racing game was.
rough sapphire
There's a lot of games I didn't play because the let down that was Link's Awakening.
sand goblet
link's awakening was a let down for you?
sand goblet
how?
sand goblet
I mean, it was very much The Experimental Game at the time
heck, even the remaster is, what with the dungeon maker
"can we make this game?" "yeah sure whatever"
it is however an excellent remaster
rough sapphire
Do something other than use your phone @robust sierra
robust sierra
i'd rather use compooter than roll around in bed uncomfortably for half an hour
rough sapphire
thats fair enough... the light from the screen will stop the sleep hormone production tho. :)
robust sierra
i know, but i cant help it
rough sapphire
i tend to get up and walk around for 5 mins.
robust sierra
hm
rough sapphire
looks like feeding is done, so back to sleep for me.
runic jetty
just joined this server but it is crashing my iphone and the only way to fix it is by leaving this server can someone let the mods know
rough sapphire
maybe dont use an iphone
robust sierra
not sleeping doesnt seem like a good idea anymore...
vapid bluff
@robust sierra spend some time using as little electricity/internet as possible
that sometimes helps me clear my mind and/or relax
pretend there's been a power outage
robust sierra
i thought about doing that
vapid bluff
go and draw or jot down notes or take a walk or something
play with your pet if you have one
vapid bluff
yea paradoxically youll be sleeping less by trying to become sleepier ๐ in my experience itll be a lot easier to drift asleep afterwards, thats all
idk, ymmv
rough sapphire
someone said instagram is written in python.. is that right?
golden walrus
that's the website afaik
rough sapphire
oh.. hmm
I'm trying to figure out how they host the images and provide fast access
on the app
sand goblet
With a CDN, of course
rough sapphire
cdn?
sand goblet
Yes
sand goblet
Yep cloudfront CDN
rough sapphire
hmm I'm just interested in how they store images (it says S3) and reference them for each user
rough sapphire
thanks.. let me see how this ties in together
rough sapphire
what ever
vestal briar
Well there's new exchange students and I'm head of one of them
vestal briar
Intresting day so far
gentle moss
that's an understatement
rough sapphire
indeed
vapid bluff
what happened
gentle moss
supreme court found UK Government unlawfully prorogued parliament
rough sapphire
BoJo was told he did a naughty
vapid bluff
whats gonna happen now
gentle moss
parliament goes back into session like nothing happened
boris has said before he'll ignore the law, so now we get to see if he does that... again.
he's said if SC overturned the prorogue he'd just prorogue again
rough sapphire
I think he'll be gone before he can pull us out with no deal.
he's got something big riding on no-deal.... i'm sure.
same as Jacob Rees-Mogg
Tho, he's just a tax dodger... and new rules coming in would upset him.
gentle moss
parliament could hold a vote of no-confidence which would trigger a general election
rough sapphire
I think they were going to go with a unty goverment lead by ken clarke
or something
gentle moss
hard to fucking tell at this point
rough sapphire
i say hand the power back to the monarchy.
gentle moss
one thing that's clear is boris is fucked
before parliament was prorogued parliament passed a law to prevent a no-deal brexit
so...
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
vapid bluff
does the eu care about that law
undone berry
The only way Parliament VONCs it up is if they immediatealy vote in a caretaker government
which would be my favourite world
having Jeremy Corbyn voting Ken Clarke in as PM
gentle moss
Ken Clarke is a good choice for a caretaker i think
undone berry
I mostly agreee - but he doesn't want a second referendum though
which is a bit of an issue
He just wants to do a Norway and put Brexit to bed
gentle moss
yes but if he were to be caretaker PM i suspect he'd have to listen to the rainbow coalition of people who put him there
undone berry
all the opposition, plus the recently kicked out tories could very feasibly form a caretaker government
but I don't think it will happen
and we'll just have the election post october
gentle moss
plus the french demanding a minimum of a 2 year extension
vapid bluff
uk is that one kid in class who keeps deliberately corrupting the word document to get assignment extensions
undone berry
tbf, it does feel like Brexit dragging on for years more is perfectly feasible
which means more listening to morons discuss it and wanting to die
solid pollen
What the france is asking for ?
gentle moss
UK to sort its political shit out
i mean anyone with any fucking brains realised this wasn't going to be a short done and dusted process
there's like ~40 years of shared law to undo
that's non-trivial
undone berry
anyone with any fucking brains shockingly few of those about
fossil solar
hey guys, i wanna know like the main differences btw the sql databases(mysql, postgres, etc).I belive postgres is the most popular, what is the actual reason?
and how is it diff from mysql
except for the syntax
sand goblet
It's a big ask to try to get people to explain that over a messaging service
They differ in more ways than they don't
You should seek an exhaustive list online if you need one
vestal briar
TL;DR (don't expect 100% accuracy): use postgresql for new stuff and use the rest if you need support for others
Ideally it shouldn't matter if you use an orm well
sand goblet
an ORM can't make up for the weaknesses of any particular DB
undone berry
All an ORM is doing is shifting the problem away from your code to the library's code - which can definitely cause more issues than it solves in some cases
undone berry
I use mysql because I have a fastcomet account with unlimited mysql databases
fossil solar
okay
vestal briar
Postgre is generally considered the best nowadays
rough sapphire
Mostly sqlite with Android dev, but MySQL/PostgreSQL otherwise.
vestal briar
Yeah
gentle moss
most of my stuff is pretty small so i just use sqlite
golden walrus
does anyone play Fate/Grand Order by any chance?
golden walrus
it's a decent VN, a horrible anime, a somewhat decent anime
and a shitty gacha game that I play for no reason since a long time already
grave phoenix
Oh, it has some mangas too
golden walrus
tbh the only thing FGO has from Fate are the main characters
the other hundreds of characters are just for the game
never read the mangas, I played the VNs and the game because a friend told me it was cool
she thought I was going to quit
now she doesn't play anymore and I do
-3-
she got into Granblue Fantasy
golden walrus
they're manipulative games that make you want to collect characters in a really slow way :/
golden walrus
it's 5 am, can I die
solid pollen
I suppose you can ๐
rough sapphire
What the hell is this
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1121910/I_Love_You_Colonel_Sanders_A_Finger_Lickin_Good_Dating_Simulator/
sand goblet
Exactly what it looks like I'm afraid, haha
rough sapphire
The producer is even KFC too
rough sapphire
What do you mean?
vestal briar
Game publishing
Common thing for them to take 70-90% for marketing
And will push if you do it independantly if the game gets noriety
rough sapphire
notoriety?
rough sapphire
I'm all for indie games if done properly and the dev(s) aren't jerks.
rough sapphire
There's one specific dev that comes to mind, but I'm not gonna name names ๐
sinful copper
lol, Java 11 has a new feature to run a single source code file as a main module without compiling it separately first... anyone have any guesses what the feature is called?
||Java scripting. That won't be confusing to anyone at all||
solid pollen
Really..
sinful copper
@grave phoenix this isn't related to just in time compilation, i mean without making a bytecode .class file
golden walrus
Java scripting
wat
may I see the documentation? I couldn't find it
or I did find it and failed to recognize it
okay, that's what I was looking for
vestal briar
It didn't
rough sapphire
@vestal briar Yep, been like that for a while
@solid pollen Chinese bootlegs, woo!
rough sapphire
Intersection? Looks like a U-turn type thing
golden walrus
I mean the math symbol
rough sapphire
Oh, yes that's it.
leaden apex
wow jupyter is really user friendly, do you guys like it?
vestal briar
Finally, a half-decent meme that can educate you if you didn't know:
sand goblet
Basically a bad request
oak tangle
and bad coffee
vestal briar
Tea*
rough sapphire
HTTP 418
vestal briar
vapid bluff
http 420: come back later im too blazed
sand goblet
@vapid bluff 420 is used for "payment required" officially
But when Twitter is down for maintenance they use it with the message "enhance your calm"
oak tangle
@vestal briar Yes, some guy (It's Mark Nottingham, chair of the IETF HTTP Working Group)
vestal briar
Yes
oak tangle
He's since reversed and started a procedure to make it an official status code, though
vestal briar
Cool
oak tangle
I can see where he was coming from, but it wasn't well thought-out
people like their memes
vestal briar
Yeah, looks like he jumped into popular libraries and tried to get them to kill it
oak tangle
It's a relatively low number and they probably wanted to actually use it for something
sand goblet
Haha
Maybe someday I should write a django app that can replace 5xx codes with 7xx
Or something
oak tangle
I am not a teapot.
sand goblet
Good ol' HTCPCP
oak tangle
(718, duh)
vestal briar
All headers have a prefix of either 418 or 718
To determine once and for all
718200 for a successful request to something that's not a teapot short and sprout :)
gentle moss
he goin jaaaaiiiil
i read the actual complaint
it's seriously damning on its own
never mind the actual redacted transcript which is also damning
gentle moss
he's the director of national intelligence
and trump did quite obvuious crimes
with shit loads of evidence
grave phoenix
So who's going to jail?
gentle moss
well it should be trump
he threatened to withhold military funding from ukraine unless the president investigated joe biden
using federal funds as a bargaining chip to fuck over your political rivals is very not legal
grave phoenix
oof
vapid bluff
joe biden's son*
gentle moss
yeah and by proxy joe biden
he tried to argue that joe biden was corrupt
and influenced the ukrainian government to not prosecute his son
while he was VP
which is total bullshit
so anyway, a whistleblower came forward and was like "not cool man"
and then people put pressure on trump to release the transcript of the phone call
so trump released a redacted version
which is still super incriminating
like... they tried to cover this up by not publishing the original transcript as they should have and classifying it for "national security reasons"
oak tangle
That's beause it falls under job security and, in this case, it's a national job, so national job security.
Looks nicely classified to me
gentle moss
:D
gentle moss
yeah, they tried to sanitize it
and did a really fucking bad job
since it still implicates him in crimes
oak tangle
That was probably the goal, though, but maybe they misjudged it slightly
Release a document that's slightly incriminating, but by far not as incriminating as the real document
If people don't pay attention, they may say "this isn't so bad"
I hadn't heard that it was redacted, but I have seen that latter line a lot: "this isn't so bad" and "is this all?"
gentle moss
yeah, that's probably from people who don't quite realise what a big crime it is
the full transcript would probably still have some people saying that
"idgi, doesn't seem so bad"
oak tangle
I'm not sure, I think the full transcripts has him threatening to withhold financial aid, which is more easily explained as something bad; it's very openly coercion.
There will be people still that don't get it, but far less
gentle moss
spose
if this doesn't fuck him then we might as well just shutdown the united states
rough sapphire
yeet
gentle moss
rofl
rough sapphire
someone should fix pip
tbh pip is so bad
it won't tell you that you have shit internet it will give you massive red errors and blame it on the pip version or say that pip doesn't exist if you have shit internet though
fossil solar
how is this setup
rough sapphire
@fossil solar Looks too much like a Mac
fossil solar
good eh?
rough sapphire
No
gentle moss
:D
oak tangle
I like dock panels. I had mine not resize to the width of my screen and auto-hide
gentle moss
now you just need to do
sudo find / -type d -exec touch {}/.DS_Store ;
fossil solar
@rough sapphire suggest me something better
rough sapphire
I like Cinnamon personally, but anything other than what you already have.
fossil solar
mine is also auto hide, if u notice i have my cursor on it to show it off in the ss, lol
im on ubuntu mate
rough sapphire
@gentle moss knows what he speaks
fossil solar
show me ur themes
oak tangle
I don't really care, both about tweaking and about people that tweak
I can see the attraction, but I usually get bored with it pretty soon and just start doing stuff with my machine
I do change things that help me do those things
gentle moss
i like function really
all i need is like a 2.5 - 3% start bar (or autohide on win 10) and minimum title bar
oak tangle
I've set my borders on i3 to 1px and removed the title bars
Replaced it with the title of the window in focus in the bar
fossil solar
u guys dont use plank?
fossil solar
okay
oak tangle
$mod+d to open applications
oak tangle
My mod key is the windows key
not the most ergonomic, but it's the least conflicting one
tired osprey
Mine is windows as well
oak tangle
anyway, I should make dinner before my gf gets grumpy
oak tangle
wow
fossil solar
....
gentle moss
what?
fossil solar
6 desktops 
gentle moss
"workspaces" or whatever
gentle moss
lol no
fossil solar
that would be so insane
gentle moss
i prefer to work across spaces rather than with windows
it'd be easy to manage with synergy tbh
fossil solar
what are ur specs
gentle moss
on this laptop?
fossil solar
yea
fossil solar
just a question, when we make a new workspace, does the memory divide across?
why are u using ubuntu 16
tired osprey
And the answer to the firsty that wouldn't make any sense, every process just takes the RAM it wants
gentle moss
^
gentle moss
nope
i can jump between workspaces lightning fast
ctrl + alt + left/right arrow
you can move windows across with shift + alt + left/right arrow
fossil solar
jeez 11 days uptime
tired osprey
The majority of things not called gnome or Wayland won't lag on that machine
gentle moss
hah, that's not even my best for this laptop
vestal briar
tired osprey
My workstation at work has been up for 25 days now
tired osprey
I left from work an hour ago, why couldn't you have been doing this back then :(
vestal briar
No idea, I just keep it on my desk as an ornament
fossil solar
nice
oak tangle
I have something similar to Owez
fossil solar
another question
fossil solar
so that extra monitor has its own cpu or connected to laptop?
oak tangle
I use 10 workspaces
vestal briar
I have a laptop I use for school and home and a tv for a nice big screen
tired osprey
Every i3 person does, don't they @oak tangle
vestal briar
I don't use workspaces, I should do though
gentle moss
workspaces are nicer than fucking around with loads of windows
fossil solar
people use another workspace on a monitor or another cpu?
gentle moss
default on lubuntu is 4 i think, i upped it to 6 because i kept running out
fossil solar
my question!!!!!!!!!
gentle moss
if you have an additional monitor
tired osprey
Hopefully nobody here is old enough to be insulted by that sentence
gentle moss
that's 2 monitors per workspace
rather than the 2nd monitor having its own workspace
oak tangle
1 = firefox
2 = terminal layout
3 = Sublime Text
4, 5, 6, 7 = random applications
8 = PyCharm
9 = Spotify
0 = Discord
vestal briar
Yeah
frosty berry
a workspace is just a way to group together a lot of windows, so you only see a group at a time
gentle moss
so if i plug in a monitor i have 6 workspaces but 12 "screens"
frosty berry
it doesn't have any effect on cpu or memory
fossil solar
so basically everyone who uses a monitor with a laptop ,its just another workspace?
vestal briar
No
tired osprey
No it's just anothe monitor
fossil solar
waat so the same stuff gets displayed ?
tired osprey
No
frosty berry
on windowsย 10 you have workspaces too, with win+tab+arrows i believe
tired osprey
You switch between workspaces
fossil solar
so on my laptop and monitor i can have diff workspaces
frosty berry
yes
tired osprey
So one of them has your shell and your discord idk, next one has your editor and what not and so on
frosty berry
and you can switch to a different workspace on either
fossil solar
and i can plug in a keyboard mouse to control the monitor workspace?
tired osprey
How are you talking to is then
frosty berry
you don't need an external monitor to have workspaces
gentle moss
haha
fossil solar
why do u use monitor
gentle moss
imagine a 2nd monitor as just having a bigger desktop that stretches across both screens
frosty berry
i have a laptop now, and i have around 10 workspaces now
gentle moss
it's still 1 desktop
fossil solar
whats the advantage of workspace ?
fossil solar
and still not lag?
tired osprey
You're not understanding what a workspace is iceman
frosty berry
chat (discord and other stuff), mail, web, and some more for specific projects/work stuff
tired osprey
You're vastly overthinking them
fossil solar
what is workspace
tired osprey
Just a set of windows
fossil solar
a copy of my desktop?
frosty berry
no
tired osprey
It is just a display concept
frosty berry
it's just you show and hide some windows together
fossil solar
tired osprey
The effort is completely equal to when you'd displs all at once
fossil solar
so when should i be using workspaces?
tired osprey
It is not seperatijf anything except the window guis
rough sapphire
Virtual Desktops, woo \ o /
tired osprey
They can still interact and everything
fossil solar
im on linux, how to navigate
frosty berry
imagine you put a "1" label on half of your windows, and when you press 1, only the windows with that label are visible
rough sapphire
I'm like Ves and I too also have 10
tired osprey
Which Linux lol
fossil solar
ubuntu mate
frosty berry
and when you press 2, then only the windows with label 2 are visible
tired osprey
Idk for mate
rough sapphire
@fossil solar Either click or CTRL+ALT+ARROW_KEY_UP
rough sapphire
4 is default
fossil solar
im using 1st
frosty berry
well, you can move things to the other ones and see how that affects how you work
fossil solar
i can open the same apps in WS2
frosty berry
or different ones
fossil solar
so if i take example of firefox, i can split my tabs across workspaces insted of clogging up all in one?
gentle moss
NO
you can split WINDOWS across workspaces
not tabs
.<
imagine having 4 desks
and on each desk you decide to put different papers
and you can swivel your chair to turn to each desk
fossil solar
okay in one i will open firefox, 2nd discord, 3rd sublime, 4th nothing? something like this
fossil solar
Ahh
frosty berry
well, you can extract half of your tabs to a new window, and move this window to the other workspace
fossil solar
okay
gentle moss
frosty berry
i like to have multiple firefox windows, but it's messy if they are all "normal" firefox, because when you click a link in, for example, discord, it'll open in the last firefox window you gave focus to
so for some i open incognito mode, as these ones don't act like this
fossil solar
i use only firefox xD, its fast
frosty berry
yeah, if you don't have more than a handful of windows, it's less useful
fossil solar
which is the best browser?
gentle moss
1 - chrome / social media
2 - discord only
3 - GIMP usually
4 - terminals when i'm doing shit
5 / 6 - overflow
frosty berry
i use named workspaces, i create them as i need them, just by moving to the name or moving a window to that name
they are destroyed when they don't contain any window and i'm not on them
i always switch to them by typing part of the name
rough sapphire
@fossil solar Personally, Firefox. As Chrome/(ium) is going to be killing uBlock Origin and will make it completely useless.
fossil solar
make firefox useless?
rough sapphire
@frosty berry Destroyed when not in use? Ew
@fossil solar Make Chrome/ium useless
fossil solar
okay
frosty berry
yeah, or they would accumulate pretty fast
rough sapphire
I've got 10 and 4 currently are in use
frosty berry
now i have 10 or so because i had to reboot two days ago, but before that i had 20+
gentle moss
but then chrome got better and i didn't switch
"oh i'll swith one day..."
and now it's rolled around
cha-ching
being lazy pays off
rough sapphire
2.0 brought TABS
frosty berry
yeah, that was crazy
rough sapphire
It was pretty amazing
frosty berry
"eat that, ie!"
fossil solar
okay so
rough sapphire
Then IE never really got it with the whole ad blocking thing
fossil solar
im working on a django project- terminal, sublime, firefox and caja, how should i use my workspaces
frosty berry
however you want, it's just a way to organise things
gentle moss
yerp.
frosty berry
i organise by projects + things that are always there
gentle moss
when i'm doing work on flask projects i keep a browser open in the workspace next to pycharm
so i can just dip back and forth
rough sapphire
Don't pay attention to either of them, there's a strict and stringent way of sorting, first you I'm kidding, do it however you want
fossil solar
so i think sublime + terminal in one and forefox in another? ๐ค
rough sapphire
Up to you
fossil solar
okay
frosty berry
basically, when you want to see things together, they go on the same workspace, when not, they go on different workspaces
it's like alt-tab, but for multiple windows, basically
wooden kindle
Tiling managers ftw!
fossil solar
wut?
wooden kindle
Tiling window managers are pretty cool
gentle moss
i thought my video summed up what workspaces were pretty well
:(
surprised it took so long to get to a resolution on this
<_<
fossil solar
which video
fossil solar
me2, i have i3 laptop
golden walrus
I've never used the tiling function
I usually have tabs
me2, i have i3 laptop
I mean i3wm
fossil solar
wow @gentle moss did u upload that video during this conversation?
wooden kindle
Xmonad is a another good one
golden walrus
the window manager
frosty berry
i use i3 too, and i really like tabs, but i use tiling a lot as well
vertical and horizontal splits
frosty berry
could probably be less the case if i used an IDE instead of vim + terminals
but i use it in other cases as well
yeah, i3 is confusing to google for, the ancestor had somewhat of a comparable problem, wmii, as a lot of searches returned microsoft documentation
frosty berry
@gentle moss if you don't say to look at the top to understand what happens, it's not really easy for someone who doesn't know the concept to follow
it's just windows randomly appearing and disappearing
frosty berry
i know that because when i use my computer with someone else, they never know where to look as everything i do is keyboard driven, the focus appears to change randomly
i commonly zoom the terminal a lot and put it fullscreen, so there is no ambiguity
and :only in vim, to close all the other windows
:on for short
gentle moss
yeah
even on windows i'm not very fond of cursors
keyboard warrior for life
this dead cluster on my laptop is killing me though
no tab, tilde or esc
rough sapphire
Time to get a new keybard, sounds like
gentle moss
new laptop
this is like 3 years old and it was low-ish spec / quality when i got it
i'll get work to get me one and then repair this one
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
then i'll carry them BOTH around in my giant laptop bag which can easily hold two laptops
and have a total of 6 screens at work
rough sapphire
Why tho
gentle moss
hah
rough sapphire
Hackerman
gentle moss
i've maxed out screens for my work PC unless i add in another GPU
so the only solution is another laptop
rough sapphire
Sounds like you should steal your co-worker's soul computer, then.
"What are you doing with my computer?" "Just gonna borrow it for a bit" "Okay then"
rough sapphire
Proceeds to never return it
vapid bluff
are all the screens running off the discrete gpu
wait did first gen i7s even have integrated graphics
sand goblet
They did
gentle moss
and DVI + VGA on GPU
i think only some in the range did though G?
idk
and you needed a mobo that would support the integ stuff
sand goblet
I dunno, I had a first gen one that did
gentle moss
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
i know you could get mobos that didn't have IG support
Intel HD3000 is such a piece of garbage anyway
amber glacier
Where Fortnite channel go
vestal briar
My fork knife!
gentle moss
i've had 3 tickets in today from users asking me how to use their software o_O
how am i supposed to know how your financial software / inhouse CRM / whatever shit works?
gentle moss
some people just seem to think any time they can't use a computer that it's a support issue
tired osprey
The missconception is on your side bisk it is a support issue if I can't use my computer
rough sapphire
bisk - if you are support, how dare you not know everything about each piece of software ever written, AND how to do their jobs...
then there is the anything with a plug syndrome
gentle moss
we often get customers complaining that their franking machine is broke
and there's fuck all we can do because it's leased from the royal mail, not our problem
just because it has the internet and looks like a printer, doesn't mean it's our shit, STACY
rough sapphire
the fuck is a franking machine
sand goblet
It's for franking
rough sapphire
frankly i don't know what that means
sand goblet
They add like, postage proofs to letters via a stamp
gentle moss
yeah
sand goblet
it acts as a postage stamp, cancellation and dated watermark in one
gentle moss
so you top up the franking machine and it'll print onto envelopes the postage fee
rough sapphire
oh i see
gentle moss
yeah, they send out like
~1500 letters a week
they load ยฃ5k in postage at a time onto the machine
:D
rough sapphire
i've had tickets to turn the ac off in such and such a room
vapid bluff
lmao
gentle moss
-.-
solid pollen
Someone here know the Berlin hackathon?
undone berry
Jeremy Corbyn caretaker PM incoming
frosty berry
๐ฎ
tired osprey
@solid pollen I've heard of it
solid pollen
I received an invite for it but he have school when the event take place
Is it actually a good event?
I don't really know how all of this work I've never done any of that stuff
frosty berry
i got one too, but i don't know that either
i probably won't go though, as i'm not looking for a job
gentle moss
insane clown posse circus?
undone berry
International Collegiate ~~Programming Competition ~~ Posse of Clowns
sand goblet
Internet coffee pot control
vestal briar
Every day with the 418 refrences
gentle moss
:D
rough sapphire
I know this one Russian guy who went to a school that preps students for the ICPC.. to get in you need to show prowess in programming and math..
he graduated and landed a job with [redacted] company.. and on the side also supports his girlfriend (who doesn't even know how to code) to keep her high paying consulting job by coding for her as well o.o insane
fossil solar
hey @coral void how did u make that embed in #discord-bots
coral void
>>>
>>> Text goes here
Text Goes here
You can prefix with a single > and space to indent a single line, or three in a row for the remainder of the message to be indented
It's good for
single line quotes
or for longermany line
many detailed quotes
perhaps even command output
It's technically a blockquote, not an embed
I believe discord added it 2-3 months back, drove me nuts because when it was first enabled it didn't require a trailing space, meaning all my >.< faces got messed up and I had to type \'s everywhere
The trailing-space requirement (fix) took about 3 days to get made live
coral void
It's neat
fossil solar
yea
gentle moss
.<
solid pollen
People on Android, do you have some problem to connect to discord server too?
rough sapphire
yes
amber glacier
latency is very important
vapid bluff
is it possible to connect one pc's hdmi port to another pc's hdmi port then connect a monitor to another port on either and use a program to switch between the two?
essentially using a pc as a hdmi hub
golden walrus
HDMI ports in your computer are for output only
the ones your video card or chip uses, at least
solid pollen
I don't think a pc hdmi port could be used as a input
gentle moss
i mean... sort of but not
HDMI can carry lots of data
and even 2 way traffic
you can do ethernet over HDMI, for example
rough sapphire
your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should.
solid pollen
Talking about wireless TV do you know a way to send your pc screen on TV without using a hdmi cable?
rough sapphire
cast it?
solid pollen
Do you know a good (free) book about x86 assembly ?
gentle moss
no but i have an entire book on the 8084 and 8086
hollow leaf
The x86 Assembly Guides by Intel are free.
Or you could buy paperback from Lulu if you want to.
solid pollen
@hollow leaf
hollow leaf
It's verbose and detailed, probably not then. :I
tired osprey
@solid pollen if youre searching for beginner friendly assembly do not touch x86, something like MIPS is gonna be a lot easier
rough sapphire
MIPS is great for beginners
solid pollen
@tired osprey I want to make (I still have a lot to learn) a compiler for a brand new language so need x86. Actually I already know a bit of asm like registry, stack, instructions and things like that but it's a bit old in my memory so I want to restart from the beginning (or I should say the _start).
tired osprey
In that case I would recommend doing the language part before, usually the parsing and analysis of your parsing results are gonna be at least equally hard if not a lot harder to the assembly.
Furthermore I don't exactly see the point in compiling it to x86 directly, you could either do LLVM or byte code instead which should both be a lot easier
vestal briar
I thought he meant creating a compiler in x86 haha
shell blade
OMG there is like 2 feet of snow outside ๐ฆ
vestal briar
Nice
The UK is ridiculously bad at handling weather
Tiniest bit of slush snow and it's a national crisis with cars crashing every 30 mins on the news
shell blade
yeah, the first snowfall is usually not great here lots of accidents but being Sunday it shouldn't be too bad. usually after the first people are like oh it's winter now and drive better lol
is it me or does 27.90 per kg for trail mix seem outrageous
stark prawn
Depends on what's in it.
sand goblet
a kilo is a lot of eats
shell blade
I'm trying to visualize this in my head cause I'm ordering it online
so i don't know how much i need to last me a weekish for snacks lol
like 0.5kg?
would that be alot?
stark prawn
If you are like me you'd eat 3x as much if you had that much at home.
shell blade
oh damnnn that is a lot
vestal briar
It's always so tempting to eat 2 full packs of pringles
sand goblet
it's really not
vestal briar
They are just sitting there waiting to be eaten
shell blade
it's not a lot of trail mix?
vestal briar
I mean realistically you could only eat half a can
stark prawn
๐ค
shell blade
or do you mean its not a lot of money for trail mix
sand goblet
No, it's not tempting to eat 2 tubes of pringles
stark prawn
Only half a can?
stark prawn
tbh, I ususally don't eat the can.
vestal briar
But you'll be sitting there feeling horrible for the rest of the day
shell blade
ok ok so i think 0.5 kg should be more than enough
vestal briar
Get a bottle of water and that's how much 500g is
(Minus the weight of the plastic bottle itself)
shell blade
done ordered my groceries for the week woot!
food is so expensive here
I meal planned everything too
My whole weekend has been purely organizational/cleaning/no-fun
#adulting
also been looking at a new winter jacket I think I found a good one
stark prawn
As a responsible adult you should allow yourself time to unwind.
shell blade
soon have a few more things on my list than I can
stark prawn
I finally got some time to play games most of the day.
Do need to get some rest from being around so many people all day though.
shell blade
oh, you have family over?
stark prawn
no, small local card game tournament.
Still about 50 people in a small room though, kind of stressful
vestal briar
I'm just having a marathon of bsg
shell blade
holy crap 50 people, that is pretty cool, my anxiety would be through the roof lol
undone berry
I assume it was the mtg prerelease?
stark prawn
yeah
undone berry
How did you do?
undone berry
I normally dislike prerelease/sealed, but eldraine was very fun
stark prawn
how did you do?
undone berry
3/0
stark prawn
Neat
rough sapphire
so I was just invited to Microsoft Teams
invitation went to an email I haven't used yet, asks me to make a new account, no biggie
turns out the max password length is 16 characters
????????
are you serious
in this day and age
microsoft pls
vestal briar
If you put a unicode character in a password I wonder if anyone would even include them in an attack
Would it just be invinisible to like everyone
rough sapphire
yeah, that's what I usually do when supported
vestal briar
Huh
rough sapphire
sprinkle a couple of emojis in there, boom
rough sapphire
unfortunately, not a lot of databases have the password encoding set to UTF-8