#ot1-perplexing-regexing | Python | Page 318

half spoke Sep 9, 2019, 2:16 PM

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dont use twitter

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:16 PM

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smart move

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Again, people have their own reasons for why they believe what they believe. Yes, we see the inherent bad in what people are doing, and likewise others might see what we do as bad. However to blanketly dismiss other people on the basis of one thing, without trying to learn why they feel that way, does nothing to help correct or solve the problem of all the unrest we have in the world

half spoke Sep 9, 2019, 2:17 PM

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i dont really care why someone wants me dead

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:17 PM

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ever heard of Godwin's law, enki?

half spoke Sep 9, 2019, 2:17 PM

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sure have, and i know youre going to use it wrong :P

oak tangle Sep 9, 2019, 2:17 PM

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I think this Ted Talk illustrates twitter well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAIP6fI0NAI

YouTube

TED

How one tweet can ruin your life | Jon Ronson

For the longest time Jon Ronson reveled in the fact that Twitter gave a voice to the voiceless ... the social media platform gave us all a chance to speak up...

▶ Play video

half spoke Sep 9, 2019, 2:18 PM

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anyways, too political for me

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:18 PM

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twitter is like a living example of godwin's law

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it's like godwin's law on steroids

half spoke Sep 9, 2019, 2:18 PM

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i don't want to get too heated

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Considering the points you were lobbing, the heatedness was kind of coming from your side. Let's just swap topics and be done with it

half spoke Sep 9, 2019, 2:19 PM

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~~sounds like thought policing to me~~

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Well yes

crisp hedge Sep 9, 2019, 2:19 PM

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wut

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Discord servers are dictatorships

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Yep, most online communities are

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Don't like it leave, disobey get kicked out

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Pretty simple for what's required

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At the end of the day we don't have to make sure people are fed and clothed

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:19 PM

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I haven't seen anything else that works tbh

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:20 PM

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Just have to make sure the rules placed on us are followed and likewise all the way down to our users

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Not to say we won't listen to constructive criticism, but at the end of the day, what the staff says is what needs to be followed by

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:21 PM

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there are many levels to dictatorship, striking a balance is good

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haha that's a great one to take out of context

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:21 PM

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It's more of a council based dictatorship here

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Either way, I think we have a community here that's worth being proud of

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:22 PM

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Agree

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lol, I was talking to a C developer about git earlier

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He said most people don't know that version control can be useful when you're on a single-person project

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I said I didn't think that was the case and he immediately replied with "well you're on a Python server, there's an above average IQ"

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guy doesn't even like Python haha

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:23 PM

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You can not like a language but still respect the users of it

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:23 PM

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True enough

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Like I HATE brainfuck, but I still respect people who can make interesting things out of it

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Oh, hell

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ANYTHING out of it

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:24 PM

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I mean the guy used to be a PHP developer

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but I stuck with him through those trying times

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because I too know what it's like to be lumbered with PHP and not see the problem

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:>

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:24 PM

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I think Python's communities have a good reputation in general, though, so that probably helps

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A lot of good ones out there just trying to help people get into programming

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:25 PM

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I think the PSF has always valued inclusivity and helping each other out

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It shows well

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:25 PM

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There are others that are a bit more closed, which is a shame. Oh yeah, absolutely

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The language itself is never going to be (and was never intended to) be a perfect tool for every project, but its utility makes it perfect for learning and teaching concepts or prototyping, so the fact that it's so welcoming makes it an amazing jumping off point

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Agree

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although I'll shoehorn it into everything goddamnit

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I'm writing a logging sidecar library for use with Docker and compiling it into a C module with nuitka

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gonna be interesting to see how that performs

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Huh, I'd apparently looked into it before but I must have forgotten about it. I'm concerned about the performance during the transpolation process.

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:28 PM

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I mean I'm not really sure there is any transpiling after you've built it

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It compiles to a python-native .so/.dll

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(meaning, you can import it directly because it exports the right stuff)

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:28 PM

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I'm saying when it initially goes from Python to the C/C++

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:28 PM

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You mean the time to build?

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Yerp. Not the actual building itself, but how efficient it is compared to if you had just built the program in C or even Cython

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Ah, well yeah, that's what I'm wondering

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that's the new azure pipelines thing by the way if you haven't seen it

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Pretty swanky looking

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I like it

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I think you did hit on a really bit issue, though. There's a lot of desire to shoehorn a language where it really doesn't need to be

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Oh yeah, definitely

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:31 PM

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I mean I love Python, don't get me wrong, but it isn't built for certain things. You don't get the granularity that you need in some cases

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:31 PM

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"I found this cool thing so now I'm gonna find a reason to use it" is a big problem too

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I am aware that I'm guilty of both in this case :>

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However it's pretty uncomplicated so if this doesn't work out I'll just rewrite it in kotlin native

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Yeah that's fine to do if you're just concept testing or prototyping or just learning about all that stuff

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Ooooooo Kotlin....

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I do love me some Kotlin

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:32 PM

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I've been enjoying kotlin

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:33 PM

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It feels good

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:33 PM

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It's made writing Minecraft plugins fun again haha

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:33 PM

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That's the thing, I know this is a terrible thing to base languages on, but some of them just don't feel good to write in

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But Kotlin feels great

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Yeah

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:33 PM

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I don't feel like I'm fighting against the language to make things do what I want

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:33 PM

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But for me, I'm coming to it from the perspective of Java

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and it adds soooooo many niceties that Java developers wish they had

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like you can do thing.x instead of thing.getX() or thing.x = y instead of thing.setX(y)

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it'll translate it during compilation for you

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I love that

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you just don't have to think about it anymore

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:34 PM

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I still have little stuff in my head that I have to get over, though

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Like

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It still uses the JRE, so it would still have all the limitations of that as well, but at the same time it uses it better than Java does

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:35 PM

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A lot of languages do run faster on the JVM than Java does

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which I find pretty funny

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:35 PM

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So I'm trying to convince my head that it's different than TypeScript/JavaScript

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:35 PM

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It's closer to uhh

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what was it

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hack?

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Processing?

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Yeah that sounds right

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:36 PM

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also it just has so many damn targets

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:36 PM

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True

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:36 PM

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JVM, WASM, iOS, Android, Windows, Linux, Mac..

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Cars

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Toasters

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:36 PM

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well that's java in general really

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haha

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Oh I know

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Just one of those things

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:36 PM

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"10 billion devices"

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Ayep

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:37 PM

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(most of which are defunct but they don't tell you that)

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Defunct or not that's still one hell of a pedigree

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:37 PM

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I disagree

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Java is.. very old

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a language that's stuck around this long is going to be on a lot of things

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just like C

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:38 PM

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True, but to be fair, Java's strength is less the language and more the JRE

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Yeah, that is true

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the JVM is actually pretty great

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aside from one or two things

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:38 PM

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What matters is that it WILL run on damn near everything

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Regardless of what you make your program in

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Yeah

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I have a feeling that in 10-20 years we will have replaced it with wasm

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but we'll see

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 2:39 PM

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That'll be an interesting showdown

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Mozilla is spearheading it, like they often do with these things

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which means it might not go anywhere, but

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there are some discussions about adding wasm support to kernels

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native wasm support would be.. very interesting

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so kotlin seems like a good language to use right now

vestal briar Sep 9, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Kotlin, Rust and Python are the front runners currently imo

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 3:23 PM

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I think so too

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 3:24 PM

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Those are my JAM

rough sapphire Sep 9, 2019, 3:45 PM

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the code jam

sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 3:54 PM

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I'm not a fan of rust really, but I respect its importance

vestal briar Sep 9, 2019, 3:56 PM

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16:10 are near-ish the golden ratio, cool

gentle moss Sep 9, 2019, 4:00 PM

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shame 16:10 screens aren't that common :(

vestal briar Sep 9, 2019, 4:01 PM

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Yeah

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I would like to upgrade screens but can't and won't for 2 reasons

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16:10 is glorious and I love it

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No money

stark prawn Sep 9, 2019, 4:07 PM

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But mostly 2.

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I'm not a fan of 16:10, makes a lot of media look weird with black bars and shit.

rain spindle Sep 9, 2019, 4:08 PM

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46:9 squad

gentle moss Sep 9, 2019, 4:08 PM

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it's great for gaming

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more vert res

stark prawn Sep 9, 2019, 4:09 PM

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That's what 21:9 is for

gentle moss Sep 9, 2019, 4:10 PM

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eh?

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21:9 has less v res than 16:9

undone berry Sep 9, 2019, 4:13 PM

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Why is vertical res even good for gaming?

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It seems to me like the biggest improvement to gaming would be a more immersive feel with better peripheral vision on a very wide monitor

vestal briar Sep 9, 2019, 4:14 PM

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I'm in them for productivity and half-old, half-new tv/movies

gentle moss Sep 9, 2019, 4:36 PM

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nah Piers

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well, for some games yeah

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vheight can be very handy

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when people started moving to 16:9 in Quake and CS i was still on 4:3 CRT's

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looking up / down is much more effort than left / right

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so having a high vres is more important imo

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Quake's very verticle though, so i concede it's not really that important for all games

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spectating someone on a 16:9 can be quite funny when you're on 4:3

vestal briar Sep 9, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Verdict: More vres is nice

gentle moss Sep 9, 2019, 4:39 PM

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yah

undone berry Sep 9, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Strongly disagree. The majority of games have relatively little verticality in them

vestal briar Sep 9, 2019, 4:43 PM

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2 genres with more phreriphirals are fps and racing

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Otherwise vres is great

gentle moss Sep 9, 2019, 4:44 PM

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and FPS varies

vestal briar Sep 9, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Yeah

gentle moss Sep 9, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Arcade FPS you deffo want as much vres as you can get

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stuff where people aren't rocket jumping about and shit? less so

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wider is better usually

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even though you're generally aiming at a tight choke point in CS

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f.ex

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16:10 is still the best trade between 4:3 and 16:9 imo

vestal briar Sep 9, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Yeah

gentle moss Sep 9, 2019, 4:45 PM

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but yeah, black bars for 16:9 media

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does kinda suck

vestal briar Sep 9, 2019, 4:45 PM

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And as for someone who does a lot of 4:3, it's great

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I don't mind bars

gentle moss Sep 9, 2019, 4:45 PM

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it's really bad if the movie is cinematic aspect

vestal briar Sep 9, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Oh yeah haha

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You can always just zoom in a little with most modern players

gentle moss Sep 9, 2019, 4:49 PM

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yeah, i was doing that for ages when i had a 16:10 24" main

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i gave it to my sister and went full 16:9 for decent IPS displays

vestal briar Sep 9, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Nice

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I have a laptop display and 19" 16:10

gentle moss Sep 9, 2019, 4:50 PM

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that 16:10 ghosted to FUCK

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Asus 2ms response or something

vestal briar Sep 9, 2019, 4:50 PM

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Majority of what I watch is old so it's the perfect comprimise for me

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Huh

gentle moss Sep 9, 2019, 4:50 PM

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2ms response but it would streak in Quake

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not so much in CS

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early low response monitors were measured in like black -> white

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rather than grey -> grey

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because they're dirty cheating liars

vestal briar Sep 9, 2019, 4:52 PM

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:)

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These are my specs

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Good monitor overall

golden walrus Sep 9, 2019, 4:55 PM

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must admit I don't find 16:9 comfortable for big displays

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768p, 15 inch notebook displays were okay

gentle moss Sep 9, 2019, 4:57 PM

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i think my limit for a display is about 24"

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i can't have multiple super large displays because i have to rotate

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blind in one eye

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(mostly)

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also means my screens are off centre to a normal person

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because they're only aligned to one eye

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:D

golden walrus Sep 9, 2019, 5:00 PM

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remember the jump to 1080p? webpages suddenly had huge blank gaps to the sides...

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it was weird at first

gentle moss Sep 9, 2019, 5:34 PM

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hah

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just the 4:3 -> 16:9 change was weird enough

undone berry Sep 9, 2019, 6:03 PM

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I want to make a full stack CRUD web app just to have something to stick on Github. I've done the backend as a pretty neat and simple Flask API, but I can't be fucked in the slightest to actually make a front end. Does anyone have any suggestions for building a not-ugly React app with relatively minimal effort?

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 6:26 PM

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You have to wonder on some of the acronyms for things, did the word come first and they fit the acronym around it or vice versa?

golden walrus Sep 9, 2019, 6:39 PM

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"GIMP"

shell blade Sep 9, 2019, 6:53 PM

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@plucky ridge do you mean like gnu and pip?

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cause that stuff drives me so crazyy

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Yeah, exactly

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I'm sure pip was the acronym first not word first

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But stuff like Wine in Linux and what not

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Because that one literally just means Wine Is Not Emulation

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Like they had to have the name first

shell blade Sep 9, 2019, 6:56 PM

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totally agree, I and only really notice acronyms like that in coding/IT stuff too

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it's like people just gave up on making a good acronym and were like fuck it

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Science does stuff like that all the time as well

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And of course I can't think of any examples

shell blade Sep 9, 2019, 6:58 PM

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I believe you, lol

rough sapphire Sep 9, 2019, 6:59 PM

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http://mentalfloss.com/article/61329/25-words-are-actually-acronyms

25 Words That Are Actually Acronyms

Here are the stories and meanings behind 25 words, names, and titles that you might not have realized actually stand for something.

shell blade Sep 9, 2019, 6:59 PM

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i still think the G in GNU means something else though and drives me bananas

golden walrus Sep 9, 2019, 6:59 PM

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I'd like to propose renaming GIMP, due to the baggage behind the name. The most modern and often used version of the word "gimp" is an ableist insult. This is also the colloquial usage of the word. In addition to the pain of the definition, there's also the marketability issue. Acronyms are difficult to remember, and they end up pronounced instead of read as their parts. "GIMP" does not give a hint towards the function of the app, and it's hard to market something that's either used as an insult or a sex reference.
Oh

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(Christopher Davis)

shell blade Sep 9, 2019, 7:01 PM

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GIMP is the linux version of PS right?

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 7:01 PM

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*Open-source version of PS, yes

golden walrus Sep 9, 2019, 7:01 PM

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you could say so

plucky ridge Sep 9, 2019, 7:01 PM

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It works on Windows and I think Mac as well

shell blade Sep 9, 2019, 7:02 PM

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yeah , spent too long learning and investing in Adobe products to switch

golden walrus Sep 9, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Gimp is lacking in some areas, anyway

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particularly non-destructive editing... there's no such thing as smart objects or adjustment layers

shell blade Sep 9, 2019, 7:03 PM

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yikes it's all about the layers though, how can you have no layers

golden walrus Sep 9, 2019, 7:03 PM

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there are layers, just not adjustment layers

grave phoenix Sep 9, 2019, 7:03 PM

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It has tho?

golden walrus Sep 9, 2019, 7:04 PM

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It has tho?
the kind I talk about, no

grave phoenix Sep 9, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Well, I just use gimp to remove backgrounds

golden walrus Sep 9, 2019, 7:05 PM

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if you want to apply X image adjustment like contrast, you have to do it destructively

grave phoenix Sep 9, 2019, 7:05 PM

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So I can't opine a lot

shell blade Sep 9, 2019, 7:06 PM

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i guess the word GIMP seems pretty fitting then lol

grave phoenix Sep 9, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Gimp stands for GNU Image Manipulation Program right?

golden walrus Sep 9, 2019, 7:07 PM

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yeah

rough sapphire Sep 9, 2019, 7:08 PM

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it stands for Great Imps Making P

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everyone knows the dwarves make money

shell blade Sep 9, 2019, 7:08 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/panda-animal-bank-mad-angry-gif-5585294

Tenor

Casser

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sorry the acronym made me rawwrrrr, lol

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we were just talking about acronyms that include itself in the name and how weird it is

golden walrus Sep 9, 2019, 7:12 PM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursive_acronym

Recursive acronym

A recursive acronym is an acronym that refers to itself. The term was first used in print in 1979 in Douglas Hofstadter's book Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid, in which Hofstadter invents the acronym GOD, meaning "GOD Over Djinn", to help explain infinite series...

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WAT — WAT Automotive Technologies

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wat

grave phoenix Sep 9, 2019, 7:27 PM

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LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder

sinful copper Sep 9, 2019, 8:27 PM

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https://twitter.com/oleivarrudi/status/1171050904428195841

Calamity 🐱ri-Warui (@oleivarrudi)

Cursed soft drink ad (Germany, 2001)

Retweets

1090

Likes

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sand goblet Sep 9, 2019, 8:31 PM

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don't

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you

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give up on it

rough sapphire Sep 9, 2019, 8:40 PM

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@golden walrus wat

jagged fog Sep 10, 2019, 2:03 PM

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def load(self):
if os.path.isfile('data.txt'):
print("test")
self.form.TankSize_DoubleSpinBox.setValue(self.conversion_data["Tank Size"]["Water Volume"])

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def load(self):
  if os.path.isfile('data.txt'):
    print("test")
    self.form.TankSize_DoubleSpinBox.setValue(self.conversion_data["Tank Size"]["Water Volume"])

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why is the self not indented, I mean I know it's too long but it should overflow on the second line not first, first one should still be indetned?

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right?

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 2:34 PM

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it doesn't seem to be in the function body is why

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@jagged fog why is the self not indented?

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I'm not sure what you're asking here

jagged fog Sep 10, 2019, 2:42 PM

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🤦 look above that , it is in function body. Why does discord not indent it , at least the first part of long line. Instead it just shows it from beginning, making it seem as it was n not indented. I think it worked before on long lines like this @rough sapphire @rough sapphire

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 2:43 PM

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So, it's more why doesn't Discord indent code text properly?

jagged fog Sep 10, 2019, 2:43 PM

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ye

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I'm sure it worked before on long lines

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Because it'd probably mess things up, and it's to keep everything uniform I imagine.

jagged fog Sep 10, 2019, 2:44 PM

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aka the first part of long line would be intented and the second part or rest would be showed as "full" line or unintented

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 2:44 PM

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I also don't work at Discord, so I have no clue

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

jagged fog Sep 10, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Ye I was just asking if this is perhaps to do with new update, maybe someone remembers it from before. Becase I'm sure that was not the behaviour before

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Probably caused issues or there was some edge case they found where people were abusing it

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test
test
test

test

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What on Earth is this abomination @rough sapphire

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sneek

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test

test
test
test
test
test

oak tangle Sep 10, 2019, 2:54 PM

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It's obviously a test

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wait, why did my chat just jump

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hmm

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Because it's listening to a Van Halen song?

oak tangle Sep 10, 2019, 2:55 PM

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oh right, that reminds me

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I can't get Spotify to open on a dedicated worspace in i3wm, only move it after it's been opened

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I think it's sets the window class late

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 2:56 PM

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I have no clue about i3

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Have you check dmesg and everything else?

oak tangle Sep 10, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Apparently, it's a known thing and my workaround is what I see suggested everywhere as well

oak tangle Sep 10, 2019, 4:56 PM

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@verbal relic Can you see the channels now?

verbal relic Sep 10, 2019, 4:56 PM

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@oak tangleyes yes thanks

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 4:57 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=996wliAI_y4

YouTube

Apple

Apple Special Event — September 10, 2019

Cupertino calling. Join us for an Apple special event live from the Steve Jobs Theater on September 10 at 10 a.m. PDT. Set a reminder and we’ll send an updat...

▶ Play video

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It's starting now

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Haha corprate lies

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"We are a service to humanity"

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Ew an exclusive platform that's a subscription service

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 5:06 PM

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I'll probably catch a summary at some point

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apple doesn't deserve my undivided attention

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Yeah

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It's just advertising a kids game now

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That was a waste of 5 mins

golden walrus Sep 10, 2019, 5:16 PM

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"We are a service to humanity"
did they actually say that?

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or are you paraphrasing?

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 5:17 PM

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They where talking about themselves and said "a service to humanity"

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One of the two

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100% said service to humanity about themselves

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Just not sure the exact quote

golden walrus Sep 10, 2019, 5:18 PM

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no comments

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 5:19 PM

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It feels like hooli

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But that's like saying china copied black mirror's surveillance

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 7:35 PM

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personally, I don't want a phone with new features

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I just want a phone with 2012-2013 technology that gets cheaper each year

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 7:37 PM

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I just use one for discord and 90's level phone usage

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 7:38 PM

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pretty much the same thing, + youtube sometimes and using it as an mp3 player when jogging

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 7:38 PM

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Oh yeah

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Glue an mp3 player onto a 1st gen iphone that can run discord

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And i'll be happy

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 7:40 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if you could make it a sub $100 phone

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but what phone manufacturer would want that

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 7:40 PM

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Using a £120 huawei and it feels luxery

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 7:41 PM

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I might be wrong as I'm half asleep at the moment, but I think the US banned those from importation

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 7:41 PM

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Probably

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Whole thing about them

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I don't really care if my phone blows up because I said something bad about the motherland

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 7:42 PM

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haha

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theres some phones for sale on ebay, $60 for some used ones that look nice

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 7:43 PM

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The weird thing is that google is arguably worse

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I got one

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 7:43 PM

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Huawei-Nexus-6P-32Gb-Silver-H1511-Unlocked-GSM-World-Phone-M-FR/273904771386?epid=2164369445&hash=item3fc5ff213a:g:GwsAAOSwIKFdEpmo:sc:USPSFirstClass!60563!US!-1

eBay

Huawei Nexus 6P 32Gb Silver H1511 (Unlocked) - GSM World Phone - M-FR

The screen will have many light scratches and/or areas of obvious deep scratches. The body may have many deep scratches, large dents, corner dings, and other signs of heavy wear. A case and tempered screen protector will easily cover the wear and tear.

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 7:43 PM

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Worked really nice

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Hm I got a new £60 thing

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"Blackview A10"

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 7:43 PM

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$70* but still, very good

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 7:44 PM

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Looks good

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I just got the huawei one because it looked nice and had good specs for ~£100

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Going to be my daily driver for quite a few more years to come

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 7:45 PM

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once my current S6 croaks, I may go that route as well now

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I only got something as "new" as the S6 because a friend of a friend owns a cell phone repair store and sold it to me for a really good price

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Yeah

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 7:47 PM

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but I guess my original point is that I think its silly to have new phones released every year with very small changes

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someone I know bought an iphone 10 the day it came out.... maybe I'm just getting old, but I don't understand chasing after brand new phones

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computer hardware maybe, but phones? nah

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Yeah

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My burn-rate for computers is ~once every 4-5 years

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And for phones it's however long they last until they break

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 7:52 PM

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yeah its the exact same thing for me

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https://pcpartpicker.com/b/jJ9WGX this is my current machine, with the ram upgraded to 16GB a few years ago

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this winter I think it will be upgraded

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built in early 2015

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 7:55 PM

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I switched to laptops for school last year so I have gone through a ton in the last while

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PC -> Cheap laptop -> Current nice laptop

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The cheap laptop was sold to get the nice laptop and so was the pc

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 7:56 PM

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makes sense

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 7:57 PM

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Will stick to this current laptop until it dies most likely; not much resale value as it's already 5 years old

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 7:57 PM

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its hard for me to use laptops as I'm spoiled from using large dual monitors. its hard to go back from that

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 7:58 PM

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:)

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I use my laptop as a normal pc

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Can do all apart from medium gaming and up

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 8:00 PM

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thats nice. all of my laptops have always been cheaper, and if anything have either served as backups if my computer ever breaks, or if I just need to be mobile and use a computer elsewhere

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Yeah

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I bargined and got mine for £270, it's around macbook pro 2012 specs

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 8:01 PM

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thats not too bad

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 8:01 PM

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I mainly got it for build quality though

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 8:03 PM

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maybe I've just been lucky over the years, the worst things I've had break on me are like 2 internal hard drives, and 2 laptop display panel cables after being opened and closed for probably 10k+ cycles each lol

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I always try to be gentle with my computer stuff

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 8:03 PM

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Yeah

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Luckily they are a pretty easy fix all things considered

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 8:04 PM

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my father owns a lenovo laptop, and the hard drive failed a couple weeks ago

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he dropped the laptop on his table from 18" up as a last ditch effort to see if it fixed anything, and it actually fixed the hard drive haha

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I was like.... that shouldn't have worked, but ok

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its now working properly for him

vestal briar Sep 10, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Haha

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Must have had something out of position I guess

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 8:05 PM

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yeah I'm guessing the arm for the drive was locked, and the shock knocked it out of that

sterile shuttle Sep 10, 2019, 9:50 PM

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any phone recommendations?

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o-o

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i'm thinking about upgrading

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also my pokemon go is lagging

frosty berry Sep 10, 2019, 9:56 PM

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pretty happy with my xiaomi 9E, though i imported it through ali express, so unlocking it and changing the rom was quite a burden, but it's all good in the end

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 9:56 PM

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I'll be upgrading to a oneplus 7 pro soon

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:05 PM

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@sand goblet What are you on now?

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Huawei Mate 10 Pro

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:06 PM

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Oh yeah, we talked about this

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:06 PM

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:>

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:06 PM

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Lack of Lineage support and all that

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:07 PM

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It's a great phone, but there are better now and I want root

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shame oneplus thinks wireless charging is a waste of money though

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:07 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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They're pretty great, outside of previous issues

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:08 PM

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my parents are both getting the note 10+

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because it has wireless charging and they don't care about root

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for me, root is a bigger deal, though

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especially since I have installed a 27000 mAh power bank with 100w fast charging into my backpack

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:09 PM

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If you're curious as to what I mean about previous issues - https://thehackernews.com/2017/11/oneplus-root-exploit.html

The Hacker News

OnePlus Left A Backdoor That Allows Root Access Without Unlocking ...

OnePlus has been caught leaving a backdoor (EngineerMode APK) on its Android devices that allows anyone to gain root access.

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:09 PM

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don't really need wireless charging

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:09 PM

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Big oops

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:09 PM

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that's interesting

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wonder how they managed to mess that up

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:10 PM

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https://thehackernews.com/2017/10/oneplus-oxygenos-analytics-data.html

User’ phone number
MAC addresses
IMEI and IMSI code
Mobile network(s) names
Wireless network ESSID and BSSID
Device serial number
Timestamp when a user locks or unlocks the device
Timestamp when a user opens and closes an application on his phone
Timestamp when a user turns his phone screen on or off

The Hacker News

OnePlus Secretly Collects Way More Data Than It Should — Here’...

OxygenOS on all OnePlus Devices is secretly collecting way more device data with user user identifiable information

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:11 PM

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I don't like that this site doesn't update its articles

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:11 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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But outside of those, if you go the route of Lineage you're golden

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:12 PM

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https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/14/oneplus-reverses-course-analytics-data-collection-public-outcry/

Android Police

OnePlus reverses course on analytics data collection after public ...

The latest mis-step from OnePlus occurred a few days ago, when a software engineer discovered that OxygenOS (the default ROM for OnePlus phones) was

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https://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/15/oneplus-left-backdoor-devices-capable-root-access/#2

Android Police

[Update x3: Qualcomm responds] OnePlus left a backdoor in its devi...

Just a month ago, OnePlus was caught collecting personally identifiable data from phone owners through incredibly detailed analytics. While the company

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looks like fixes!

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Yeah, Lineage

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:15 PM

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I know basically nothing about Lineage

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:15 PM

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With the added bonus of no gapps unless you want them

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:15 PM

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I definitely want gapps

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:15 PM

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https://lineageos.org

LineageOS Android Distribution

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Then you'd install https://opengapps.org/

The Open GApps Project

OpenGApps.org offers information and pre-built packages of The Open GApps Project. The Open GApps Project is an open-source effort to script the automatic generation of up-to-date Google Apps packages. All Android versions and platforms supported.

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Guess that hasn't changed then

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Good

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Only difference is that to get root you need to download a .zip and then flash in TWRP

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Lineage is just the continuation of CyanogenMod

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:17 PM

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oh right, that's why it sounded familiar

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my last phone before this phone was actually a tablet

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huawei mediapad m3

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but before that I had a note 3 and rom'd the shit out of it

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because it was the only way to get decent battery life

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:20 PM

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https://download.lineageos.org/extras has the su .zip that you'll need

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It's a one time flash that survives OTA, so you don't have to do it multiple times

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:21 PM

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I'll figure it out, but thanks

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gonna be a while yet so I'll have lost it by then, haha

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:22 PM

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If you need any help, don't hesitate to message

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I've flashed many devices

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Only ever screwed one up

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:22 PM

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I bricked a tablet once

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galaxy note 10.1

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Nice.

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:22 PM

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want to know how I did it?

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Could be anything. Flash something wrong to boot?

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:22 PM

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nope

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installed app updates from google play

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it ran out of space

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hasn't worked since

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:23 PM

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You can't fastboot/adb?

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:23 PM

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nothing works

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you can boot it into ODIN mode but nothing you do actually does anything

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thanks, obama

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:23 PM

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It have an sd card slot?

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:23 PM

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nope

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Huh

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:24 PM

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all samsung devices from that era had like an "internal" "sd card"

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:24 PM

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I ended up flashing something over to boot not realizing it was wrong, and through a few mishaps managed to nuke everything else too

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:24 PM

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I mean see if that happened I'd be okay because I'd know how I fucked it up

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but to try to install app updates, have the device freeze and just never work again

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what

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what???

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the sim card tray for that thing was shit too

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I had to take the entire thing apart to get my SD card out

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er

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sim card

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:26 PM

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Yeah, sounds about right

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Nook Color was trash

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Flashed Cyanogen onto that back in the day

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I've never recommended anything Nook, they're all trash

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:27 PM

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I never bothered looking at them tbh

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on the other hand I don't really want a tablet anymore

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:27 PM

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They're trash, moreso these days as they're reskinned never upgraded Samsung garbage

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You can verify this by checking the Android Patch Level and seeing how they haven't been patched in 2~ years, lol

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:27 PM

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haha, well that's just not on

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man, my first smart device

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I can still remember

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I had a shitty samsung slide phone

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and then we were at a party at someone's house and a guest had an ipad

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and I logged onto IRC on it and I was fucking blown away

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so I got one

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before that I didn't believe in them at all haha

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:29 PM

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But back to the OnePlus devices, every single one of them is supported by Lineage

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Back to the OnePlus One

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:29 PM

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that's like half of the pull of oneplus for most people, right?

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unlock bootloader with a simple toggle, and it's now entirely your phone

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:30 PM

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I mean, there's more to it then that, but yeah

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:30 PM

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well, yeah, you have to actually flash a recovery and stuff

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but they don't try to stop you

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fun fact, the way huawei phones work

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you can unlock them with a code obtained from huawei

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Didn't they stop unlocking?

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:30 PM

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they stopped issuing the codes a couple years back, yes

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but

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you can still get codes

#

there are employees that sell them on the grey market

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amusingly enough though

#

if you go into the developer options on my phone

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the unlock bootloader toggle is there, as you'd expect

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it does nothing but the thought is there

#

haha

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Yeah I'm not going to go with a company that you need to do anything other than fastboot oem unlock

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:31 PM

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rooting wasn't really on my mind at the time

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Well yeah, that just enables the ability

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:31 PM

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I just wanted the best phone that was around

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Something like Allow Manufacturer Unlock or some such.

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:32 PM

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I wasn't considering root at all because I wanted to play games that ban you if you have it

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but there are ways around that now

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(thanks magisk)

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:33 PM

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I enjoy that Connected MAC Randomization is a thing popping up on more devices

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:33 PM

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I enjoy the privacy implications

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I hate the netadmin implications

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:33 PM

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net admin implications?

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:34 PM

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well DHCP reservations are MAC-based

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if the MAC changes, they become useless

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:34 PM

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I mean, if you were a company and worried ( and it wasn't BYOD because LOL ) you'd be managing the devices.

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:35 PM

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I mean I'm not a company but that doesn't mean my network isn't overcomplicated, haha

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:35 PM

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MAC addresses have never been useful for any level of security, and MAC address filtering has always been a joke

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MAC addresses have been spoofable for.. well, since ever.

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:35 PM

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well yes, but it wasn't an automatic thing

#

it's annoying because networking tools use them to identify specific devices because that's basically the only option we had

#

and then you have something like google wifi and you own a phone and a laptop

#

and you go into the admin panel and see there's been like 500 separate devices

#

but really it's just two

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Doesn't show the device names?

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:37 PM

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I get the reason they did it but it's still annoying from that perspective

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I mean sure, you have 500 devices with the same name

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Not necessarily. The name of my device is... creative, to say the least.

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:37 PM

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I mean if the MAC doesn't change then you can track name changes

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so if your mom decides to call her phone "fred" (which actually happened) you're not left scratching your head

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:38 PM

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It's more adjusting with the times. It's like redteams using AWS for recon

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What are you going to do, block AWS?

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:39 PM

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I actually have quite a lot of devices that need static IPs here

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hopefully I don't end up with one that runs android

#

haha

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by the way, I know printers are the devil, but have you seen what HP has been up to for the last few years?

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Nope, printers are black magic that I don't delve into if I can help it

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:40 PM

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they're shipping these internet-connected printers

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they're very easy to use

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Oh, that's nothing new

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:41 PM

#

but more importantly they come with a service called HP Instant Ink

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which is nothing new in the business space

#

but for consumers it's really great

#

and they even have a free plan if it's just your grandma printing off a report once a month

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:42 PM

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When it comes to those big industrial-size printers you see at businesses, libraries, and the like, a lot of people tend to think I'm completely joking when I say they have a HDD in them.

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:42 PM

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I mean yeah of course they have a HDD in them

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:42 PM

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Which, it's terrifying to see those not sanitized properly

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:42 PM

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how else are they gonna store all your butt scans, john?

#

yeah, that's true

#

all the big business printers here are Brother printers

#

they're basically all just different versions of the same thing

#

they all have at least one problem but the problem is different depending on which one you have

#

like, this one jams a lot

#

this one doesn't tell you how to orient the paper when you want to print on something pre-printed

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:43 PM

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https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/bpp02221 for example

sand goblet Sep 10, 2019, 10:44 PM

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this one has a waste toner cartridge that stains your hands every time

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 10:44 PM

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lol

tardy light Sep 10, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Hello, folks! Anyone wrote or know any scripts that can remove my connections on LinkedIn? I want to remove my connections, but don't have enough time to write a script myself.

rough sapphire Sep 10, 2019, 11:49 PM

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delete your account and start afresh..

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move to a new country.. new identity.. watch Jason Bourne, be inspired

vapid bluff Sep 11, 2019, 1:41 AM

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i think someone hacked into my spotify account

#

the country's been changed to brazil and there's a bunch of random brazilian songs in my 'recently played'

#

is there a way to get a more detailed history? to see exactly when each song was played?

rough sapphire Sep 11, 2019, 2:18 AM

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i saw some people using leaked accounts

#

I think that you can solve the problem changing your password

vapid bluff Sep 11, 2019, 2:21 AM

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did that

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just want to know how long ago this happened

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i dont use my spotify account very often

#

it's been like 6 months since ive logged in

#

this morning i got an email from spotify in portuguese and that's what made me suspicious so i logged in

tame pier Sep 11, 2019, 2:26 AM

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rofl

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Not that you got hacked

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But that you got an email in Portuguese

vapid bluff Sep 11, 2019, 2:27 AM

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yep, dumbass clearly isnt too exprienced at this

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and it's a free account too, no real gain

robust sierra Sep 11, 2019, 5:38 AM

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is it just me or do the channel names have "thinner" fonts?

rough sapphire Sep 11, 2019, 5:42 AM

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just your monitor

#

can someone tell me how number of cores correlates to vcpus?

#

i'm trying to figure outsizing for putting something on a cloud env

tired osprey Sep 11, 2019, 9:09 AM

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It's basically the same @rough sapphire

rough sapphire Sep 11, 2019, 9:09 AM

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alrighty then

grave phoenix Sep 11, 2019, 11:21 AM

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For me the fonts looks more thicker

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 11:26 AM

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More thick

summer rampart Sep 11, 2019, 11:30 AM

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thickerest

rough sapphire Sep 11, 2019, 11:30 AM

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thicc

topaz lodge Sep 11, 2019, 11:43 AM

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thiccest

grave phoenix Sep 11, 2019, 11:48 AM

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thiccester

sinful copper Sep 11, 2019, 1:43 PM

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they've done something that makes the fonts look fuzzy, not exactly thicker

rough sapphire Sep 11, 2019, 1:44 PM

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fonts look exactly the same to me

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but i'm also heavily zoomed in

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1080p on a smaller screen, text would be too tiny otherwise

wooden silo Sep 11, 2019, 2:10 PM

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No, something definitely happened.

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 2:12 PM

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They are different, yeah

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:13 PM

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The font is slightly bolder/fatter

#

And the antialiasing is slightly different

#

If you have your font size small or you're zoomed out it'll look fuzzy, as bolder text tends to smoosh together at smaller sizes

#

Volcyy and I were discussing it yesterday

vestal briar Sep 11, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Yeah

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I like the new font

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:24 PM

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I'm already used to it, but I know people don't like change

#

I will say, I like it with the chat text

#

The code blocks however look....

#

Weird

#

But I think I'll get used to that too

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 2:24 PM

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The light theme is a lot nicer

#

except for one glaring problem

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:24 PM

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It's a light theme?

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 2:24 PM

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📎 unknown.png

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:24 PM

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And you can get a suntan just by using it?

#

We will not be silenced

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 2:24 PM

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like why is that still dark

#

what even

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:25 PM

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I'm thinking that's our actual background

#

I don't think we have transparency

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 2:25 PM

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It doesn't support transparency?

#

that wouldn't surprise me tbh

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:25 PM

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I don't know if it does or doesn't, actually

#

Hold on, let me check the branding repo

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 2:26 PM

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ablobsalute

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Oh huh, sure enough we have transparency as an svg

#

So I don't know then

vestal briar Sep 11, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Weird

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Ah, wait

#

Nope, figured it out

#

The banner for the server is a .png without transparency

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That's why

#

Discord allows .gif, .jpeg, .png, and .jpg

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/banners/267624335836053506/4b228c0c17480cc2b23b1c42b8b7beb0.jpg?size=512

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Yerp

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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yep no transparency

vestal briar Sep 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Yep

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Woah so many yeps

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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I could swear .png's allowed for transparency though

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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They do

vestal briar Sep 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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They do

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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blobcatninja

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Okay, I'll bring it up

vestal briar Sep 11, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Jpgs are lossy and don't support transparency

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 2:29 PM

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I can't help but feel like we chatted about it in contrib already

#

but I can't remember

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Possibly, I don't usually pay a lot of attention in there

vestal briar Sep 11, 2019, 2:29 PM

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All I know is that svgs are awesome

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 2:29 PM

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Can't argue with that

oak tangle Sep 11, 2019, 2:29 PM

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I think we did not have the original svg for this one

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but I'm not sure

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:29 PM

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I primarily like them because I can call them "savages" and it pleases me

oak tangle Sep 11, 2019, 2:29 PM

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there was a thing with that a while ago

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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sa-va-gees

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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We have one in the branding repo

oak tangle Sep 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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oh

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then I just set the wrong one

vestal briar Sep 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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I complained about another banner that was png only

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:30 PM

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We can't set .svg's for the banner

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We have to convert it to a png with the transparency

vestal briar Sep 11, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Yeah

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:31 PM

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And the png's we currently have don't have it

vestal briar Sep 11, 2019, 2:31 PM

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But there's a banner in branding repo with a png only

oak tangle Sep 11, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Where do you see the svg, Hem?

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There's only the .png I used for this one

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https://github.com/python-discord/branding/tree/master/logos/logo_discord_banner

GitHub

python-discord/branding

Our logos, and other branding material. Contribute to python-discord/branding development by creating an account on GitHub.

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:31 PM

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https://github.com/python-discord/branding/tree/master/logos/logo_banner

GitHub

python-discord/branding

Our logos, and other branding material. Contribute to python-discord/branding development by creating an account on GitHub.

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Oh

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So, totally didn't see the discord one

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That's on me, then

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Here's the background, if there was transparency..

📎 unknown.png

oak tangle Sep 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

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That's not the Discord one, but I can create one out of it

vestal briar Sep 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

#

Some people are having an argument of "call me cj not Charlie"

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Yeah I just now realized it

vestal briar Sep 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

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This is hard to listen to

oak tangle Sep 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

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I'll fire up InkScape

vestal briar Sep 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

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"cj doesn't mean Charlie"

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Back in a bit.

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

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o/

vestal briar Sep 11, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Bye

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 2:33 PM

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and he was never heard from again

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 2:34 PM

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I'm just going to the little Hemlock's room. I'm not dead yet

vestal briar Sep 11, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Yet is the key word in that sentence

oak tangle Sep 11, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Okay, that doesn't work

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It ditches the transparency and makes it black + jpeg

solid pollen Sep 11, 2019, 2:46 PM

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You're talking about the discord banner?

oak tangle Sep 11, 2019, 2:47 PM

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yes

solid pollen Sep 11, 2019, 2:48 PM

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It isn't centered on phone :)

📎 Screenshot_20190911-164739.png

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BTW

oak tangle Sep 11, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Yeah, that depends on screen size. To prevent that, we'd have to use larger margins, but that would shrink the banner on larger devices.

grave phoenix Sep 11, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Work in my machine

📎 Screenshot_20190911-115845_Discord.jpg

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Oh dear

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Proof that you don't read announcements

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:>

grave phoenix Sep 11, 2019, 3:11 PM

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I never do

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:>

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 3:11 PM

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the worst kind of person

tired osprey Sep 11, 2019, 3:11 PM

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It's like someone

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Maybe they're the same person!

grave phoenix Sep 11, 2019, 3:12 PM

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I like that phrase because it doesn't specify in want aspect or to who

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Literally somebody called Someone

grave phoenix Sep 11, 2019, 3:14 PM

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Lol

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There's just one server that isn't muted

agile heart Sep 11, 2019, 3:45 PM

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This amazes me so much for some reason

#

https://gyazo.com/0e1f1d588b78304ead1c5ba12184546a

Gyazo

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Took me a while to understand why it happened, I kinda get it now I guess, but it's like, nice.. The only other time I've seen something like this is when someone's streaming himself

sinful copper Sep 11, 2019, 4:35 PM

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I think the camera taking the main picture is a different one from the one taking the image that ends up on the screen.

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that threw me off

sand goblet Sep 11, 2019, 4:38 PM

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It definitely is another camera

rough sapphire Sep 11, 2019, 5:24 PM

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uh, windows

#

what the hell is this garbage

#

https://i.imgur.com/0Kd87pF.png

Imgur

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 5:25 PM

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It's doing its best

rough sapphire Sep 11, 2019, 5:32 PM

#

https://i.imgur.com/V0Jb6lc.png windows no please

Imgur

#

https://i.imgur.com/pyNnTsX.png WINDOWS NO

Imgur

plucky ridge Sep 11, 2019, 5:32 PM

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What in god's name are you doing?

rough sapphire Sep 11, 2019, 5:32 PM

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literally nothing

jagged fog Sep 11, 2019, 5:33 PM

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He's literally optimizing give him a break

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||ignore 20% cpu usage tho||

golden walrus Sep 11, 2019, 6:24 PM

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break his legs

vestal briar Sep 11, 2019, 9:22 PM

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Ok boss

vapid bluff Sep 11, 2019, 11:00 PM

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was watching a streamer play a game i played ages ago and accidentally wrote a spoiler in chat cause i didnt realise it still hadnt happened in their play through

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comment got deleted and i got banned

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this is it. this is the worst feeling. there is nothing that could happen to a person worse than this

rough sapphire Sep 11, 2019, 11:01 PM

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@vapid bluff Let me guess... ||"VOLDEMORT KILLS SNAPE"||

vapid bluff Sep 11, 2019, 11:01 PM

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now im vaccinated against all hardship for the rest of my life

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yeah scott ur a psychic

rough sapphire Sep 11, 2019, 11:02 PM

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nice

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:12 AM

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anyone from the uk awake

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:12 AM

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Heyo

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:13 AM

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I remember when the HP books were being released, some people would get their hands on pre release copies and go around in taxis yelling spoilers XD

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:13 AM

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I heard about that

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:13 AM

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I think there's videos..

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:13 AM

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Yeah

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I need to get to sleep but it's only school

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:13 AM

#

I'm glad I never got spoilers.. but watching people freak out reminded me of what a big deal it was to wait for the books

#

get sleep..

#

I've missed out on sleep this past week.. feel like crap..

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:14 AM

#

5/7 hours we do nothing

#

2nd week in

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:14 AM

#

paranoid my heart is going to explode.. x.x just want to sleep, but my new company doesn't have sleep pods

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Not sure what they are

#

The hotel pod things?

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:15 AM

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hmm sort of

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oh yeah those.. we had before but I never used them

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:16 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I would like to work for mozilla

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:16 AM

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I'm partial to the couche-like pods that are covered around the sides

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why

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:16 AM

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Cool company

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:16 AM

#

grass is always greener

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:16 AM

#

Fore-runner in Rust

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:16 AM

#

O

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:16 AM

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And i'd like to do some web browser stuff some day

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Even if i'm not working on firefox/geko specifically

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:17 AM

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that's cool.. I dont understand that but think it's cool you have something to pursue

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:17 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Either that or i'd like to start a buissness

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:18 AM

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better to have tried and failed.. than

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:18 AM

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Oh that reminds me, I just got accepted into work experiance but it's for IT support for the council

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:18 AM

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council?

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:18 AM

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City council

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:18 AM

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uhmmm

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:18 AM

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Apparently that what a "computing" role is

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Tech support

#

😅

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:18 AM

#

that I get..

#

I guess it's some government organization that does bare minimum

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:19 AM

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2 weeks off of school I guess

#

Yeah

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:19 AM

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woo

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:19 AM

#

I'll probably get bossed by either way under or overpaid people

#

We'll see how it goes

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:19 AM

#

I miss bad weather days.. just had a typhoon but had to go to work anyway

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:20 AM

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Snow is awesome

#

Once every 5 years™

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:20 AM

#

there was a freak storm yesterday.. it was so weird..

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:21 AM

#

We had one, the rain went from 100% to 0% in 2 seconds

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:21 AM

#

it was just this self contained storm that was moving over the city.. and it rained and hailed in select places at certain times.

#

oooh

#

is it summer

#

I mean.. did it happen in summer

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:21 AM

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It's becoming autum here

#

Middle-End of summer

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:22 AM

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summer rain

#

you can never predict them

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 12:22 AM

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Especially in the UK

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 12:44 AM

#

hey bros

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/536530660660215840/396149929e5df6cf376fd7cc50234213.webp?size=1024

#

This Myself

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when im the 12 yer old boy

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am i the hendseme?

golden walrus Sep 12, 2019, 3:49 AM

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📎 unknown.png

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 4:55 AM

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XD

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gold!

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 5:43 AM

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ur very handsome

📎 unknown.png

vestal briar Sep 12, 2019, 7:15 AM

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Piece of shit!

agile heart Sep 12, 2019, 11:44 AM

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LOL

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 4:52 PM

#

@scenic mortar Why would you not be able to generate this data?

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 4:53 PM

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I'm having trouble formulating my research question is part of the problem I think

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I'm really interested in hacking

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like system security

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and net work security

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Sure

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 4:53 PM

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I just can't think of an experiment I could do with it

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 4:54 PM

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Well, I'm not sure at what level of schooling you're in but you could argue the technicals of HTTPS

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You could explain what S-boxes are with AES

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Diffie-Helman Key Exchange

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GPG/PGP

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 4:55 PM

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okay

#

I like the ideas

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Firewalls ( iptables/nftables )

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Physical security

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 4:55 PM

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So i need to write a 4000 word essay on the topic

#

do you think these topics would be able to go that far?

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Any of these could easily double that

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 4:56 PM

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I have a max of 4k

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 4:56 PM

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I think you'll do fine

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 4:56 PM

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alright, but I'm still struggling to understand how I can test it

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Let's look at HTTPS

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 4:56 PM

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alright

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 4:57 PM

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HTTPS has HSTS ( https://hstspreload.org/ ) to assist

#

That way the list of sites are preloaded, or comes with the browser

#

So they never hit HTTP

#

Arguing MITM without HSTS is one way you can go

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Also the technicals behind HTTPS, the history, the multiple iterations of SSL 1, 2, 3, and TLS 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 4:59 PM

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okay, I am at a high school level by the way

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 4:59 PM

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Ah, gotcha.

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 4:59 PM

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it is a research project though

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and I am intereseted in cs

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 4:59 PM

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Figured you were in college 😄

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 4:59 PM

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yeah sorry ahah

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 4:59 PM

#

Maybe the above would be a little .. detailed, to explain everything.

#

But should give you some ideas 😄

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 5:00 PM

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i see

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 5:00 PM

#

HTTPS I think is a good idea though

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 5:01 PM

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okay

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 5:01 PM

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Explaining the necessity for it, and playing with Fiddler ( https://www.telerik.com/fiddler ) if you want

Telerik.com

Fiddler - Free Web Debugging Proxy - Telerik

Fiddler is a free web debugging tool which logs all HTTP(S) traffic between your computer and the Internet. Inspect traffic, set breakpoints, and fiddle with incoming or outgoing data.

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 5:01 PM

#

how should I approach the research question portion though?

#

and I will definetly check that out

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 5:01 PM

#

A few come to mind. Something like

What is the importance of* HTTPS and why do we need it?

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 5:02 PM

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okay so I don't know a lot, but doesn't that have to do with RSA algorithm?

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 5:02 PM

#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Https Educate 😄

Https

tired osprey Sep 12, 2019, 5:02 PM

#

To answer your question

#

The most recent TLS version does barely allow usage of RSA anymore and make a lot more use of ECDSA

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 5:03 PM

#

@tired osprey I don't think they know what ECDSA is, which is why that Wikipedia article would be better suited.

tired osprey Sep 12, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Or just a keyword one can research on his own

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 5:04 PM

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I definetly can 🙂

tired osprey Sep 12, 2019, 5:05 PM

#

Basically what it boils down to is that ECDSA and RSA are both algorithms for asymmetric encryption, however in TLS v1.3 it was decided that it is too easy to get RSA wrong so there isn't a option to use it as encryption algorithm (however still as digital signature algorithm (also an important topic)))

#

Unlike ECDSA that's still around for both

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 5:05 PM

#

would maybe something interesting be to look at the difference or maybe efficiency of ECDSA vs RSA?

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 5:06 PM

#

For a high school project I think it'd be better to target HTTPS as a whole

#

Because then you have a lot you can cover, and it's something that can be applied in the cybersecurity approach you'd prefer.

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 5:07 PM

#

sounds good to me

#

with the question of "What is the importance of* HTTPS and why do we need it?"

#

how would I go about collecting data though

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 5:08 PM

#

Go to sites that have HTTPS, go to sites that have HTTPS + HSTS, go to sites that have just HTTP.

#

😄

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 5:09 PM

#

what would i be looking for to collect though...sorry if I'm asking stupid questions, I'm just trying to piece this together

rough sapphire Sep 12, 2019, 5:10 PM

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Information on the certificate ( if using HTTPS )

#

I have to go AFK for a bit, but I hope that helped!

scenic mortar Sep 12, 2019, 5:11 PM

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alright

#

thanks

#

really appreciate it

vestal briar Sep 13, 2019, 12:42 AM

#

Any suggestions for a project

#

Using rust specifically

rough sapphire Sep 13, 2019, 12:47 AM

#

A doorbell that plays chunks of specific songs

#

Mix it up and it'd be neat

vestal briar Sep 13, 2019, 12:53 AM

#

I'm intrested in lang dev but rust is lacking in code gen tools

#

Prehaps a new programming language that converts to python bytecode?

summer rampart Sep 13, 2019, 12:54 AM

#

make a code gen tool

vestal briar Sep 13, 2019, 12:54 AM

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Don't know the first thing about them

#

I know how to lex + parse, never learnt how to even use a code gen

summer rampart Sep 13, 2019, 12:55 AM

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no better way to learn

vestal briar Sep 13, 2019, 12:55 AM

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I suppose

#

Final goal is to make a code gen that compiles into python bytecode

summer rampart Sep 13, 2019, 12:55 AM

#

why not make a python bytecode compiler?

#

compiling to machine code

vestal briar Sep 13, 2019, 12:56 AM

#

And that's to the point where I know 0

#

Time to learn and eventually make a rust code generator tool + contribute to cpython

scenic mortar Sep 13, 2019, 2:05 AM

#

so I talked to my teacher

#

and she said the question of, "What is the importance of* HTTPS and why do we need it?", is more of an itgs topic than cs topic

scenic mortar Sep 13, 2019, 2:38 AM

#

Does anyone have any topic ideas?

summer rampart Sep 13, 2019, 4:31 AM

#

what’s the context?

wooden silo Sep 13, 2019, 7:12 AM

#

@scenic mortar Maybe dig more into the technical side of HTTPS and focus less on the social context.

#

Like, public key cryptography, digital signatures and certificates and such.

#

The TLS protocol.

rough sapphire Sep 13, 2019, 8:49 AM

#

what in the hell is going on here

📎 28949017-6dc4-4ea4-9b70-d615df7b544b.png

#

cryptic crossword... top and bottom rows though

sand goblet Sep 13, 2019, 8:53 AM

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Hah, brilliant

vestal briar Sep 13, 2019, 9:04 AM

#

Wow

sand goblet Sep 13, 2019, 10:00 AM

#

so, ring fit, eh?

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD-auUDWyMc

YouTube

IGN

Ring Fit Adventure Trailer

Check out the reveal trailer for Ring Fit Adventure, the successor to Wii Fit coming exclusively to Switch. Subscribe to IGN for more! http://www.youtube.com...

▶ Play video

gentle moss Sep 13, 2019, 10:04 AM

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goatse the controller

#

:(

sand goblet Sep 13, 2019, 10:05 AM

#

come on now

#

haha

gentle moss Sep 13, 2019, 10:14 AM

#

:D

#

i couldn't watch it man

#

all i'm seeing is a pair of hands and a ring

rough sapphire Sep 13, 2019, 8:26 PM

#

lemoneye1 lemoneye2

#

lemonbeard1 lemonbeard2

#

lemoned

#

did this server origin from reddit or freenode or something?

vestal briar Sep 13, 2019, 8:31 PM

#

Yeah, r/python

rough sapphire Sep 13, 2019, 8:32 PM

#

too bad, the "learnpython" community was more friendly 😛

oak tangle Sep 13, 2019, 8:39 PM

#

The communities have very different scopes and a lot of people don't read the community posting guidelines

#

So, they post code help questions to /r/python and get upset when they're redirected to /r/learnpython

#

Despite that exact thing being mentioned quite explicitely right at the top of the sidebar

golden walrus Sep 14, 2019, 1:43 AM

#

uhh I need to check something

#

what if add some text here
quoting emotes

#

looks fine

#

too bad, the "learnpython" community was more friendly 😛
is that too bad? I find the people here pretty chill

#

or maybe I'm biased because my perception of the server is mainly based on two helpers

vestal briar Sep 14, 2019, 1:50 AM

#

Chill until it gets into NSFW

golden walrus Sep 14, 2019, 1:51 AM

#

I've never seen anything NSFW

vestal briar Sep 14, 2019, 1:51 AM

#

Exactly

golden walrus Sep 14, 2019, 1:51 AM

#

I know stuff was posted at least twice the last days, but...

vestal briar Sep 14, 2019, 1:51 AM

#

:P

golden walrus Sep 14, 2019, 1:52 AM

#

oh.

vestal briar Sep 14, 2019, 1:52 AM

#

I worded that horribly

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

rough sapphire Sep 14, 2019, 4:35 AM

#

hmm

#

or maybe I'm biased because my perception of the server is mainly based on two helpers

#

I wonder who @golden walrus

golden walrus Sep 14, 2019, 4:43 AM

#

Scott and Shirayuki

rough sapphire Sep 14, 2019, 4:51 AM

#

oh 😔

rough sapphire Sep 14, 2019, 5:30 AM

#

who's up

shell blade Sep 14, 2019, 5:32 AM

#

no one

rough sapphire Sep 14, 2019, 5:33 AM

#

😔

rough sapphire Sep 14, 2019, 10:04 AM

#

Hello guys

tired osprey Sep 14, 2019, 12:24 PM

#

fancy xx changed name

vestal briar Sep 14, 2019, 1:20 PM

#

📎 IMG_20190914_141450.jpg

gentle moss Sep 14, 2019, 3:45 PM

#

📎 EEb5gbsXsAYkkSk.png

#

does anyone else do lower case f's like that?

#

or am i just weird.

frosty berry Sep 14, 2019, 4:24 PM

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i don't write with a pen anymore, when i do it's just aweful and illegible

robust sierra Sep 14, 2019, 5:09 PM

#

@gentle moss my f's look like a proportion symbol

#

except its slightly tilted the left

gentle moss Sep 14, 2019, 6:14 PM

#

oh a loopy

#

mine gets loopy when i'm writing faster

rough sapphire Sep 14, 2019, 6:22 PM

#

@gentle moss My Fs look like f

gentle moss Sep 14, 2019, 6:26 PM

#

weird

#

you write like a computer

robust sierra Sep 14, 2019, 7:33 PM

#

scott is ai confermd

vestal briar Sep 14, 2019, 7:43 PM

#

Ja

autumn night Sep 14, 2019, 7:52 PM

#

any good GUI-based FOSS email client recommendations? other than emacs. looking for something lighter than thunderbird, i really just wanna read dang emails without visiting a website

frosty berry Sep 14, 2019, 8:06 PM

#

i use neomutt, but took me quite some time to setup everything, email is a mess

#

i have a binding to open the multipart version of an email in electron for when the text version is not enough

#

(and yeah, it's not very safe, as electron is much less sandboxed than a browser, but most emails i never open this way, and i doubt anybody would attack me through this).

autumn night Sep 14, 2019, 8:10 PM

#

is neomutt terminal only though? @frosty berry

frosty berry Sep 14, 2019, 8:12 PM

#

yes

#

i know you asked gui based, but if it's because you want to see html emails, i figured explained there were solutions to that could help

#

the most popular gui solution is certainly thunderbird

#

i don't know how good kmail is, i did try evolution a few years ago and didn't like it

autumn night Sep 14, 2019, 8:19 PM

#

yeah i dont love just living in a terminal

#

i even use neovim-qt instead of neovim

#

that said. looks like thunderbird doesn't support 2FA logins

#

ahh right my email provider wants me to generate application passwords anyway

vestal briar Sep 14, 2019, 8:53 PM

#

Hm, make a basic messaging platform and market it towards enterprise as secure email

#

Job done, you are now a millionaire

frosty berry Sep 14, 2019, 8:56 PM

#

caliopen has been trying to do such a thing for quite some time, all open source, seemed like a nice project, didn't try using it yet

#

i think people don't care enough about that for such a project to take a hold

vestal briar Sep 14, 2019, 8:56 PM

#

Yeah

robust sierra Sep 14, 2019, 8:59 PM

#

keylogging juanita

tulip palm Sep 14, 2019, 10:05 PM

#

👀

rough sapphire Sep 14, 2019, 11:14 PM

#

Sorry if I'm interrupting anything but I really do need help. #web-development

vestal briar Sep 14, 2019, 11:20 PM

#

Trustworthy 🤔

📎 unknown.png

golden walrus Sep 14, 2019, 11:36 PM

#

GWcodezGopher

vestal briar Sep 14, 2019, 11:37 PM

#

He honestly looks like he is going to have a mental break

golden walrus Sep 15, 2019, 2:44 AM

#

Richard Stallman defended Epstein, apparently

#

the pedophile

#

that guy is nuts

rough sapphire Sep 15, 2019, 2:47 AM

#

@golden walrus Link?

golden walrus Sep 15, 2019, 2:48 AM

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/famed-mit-computer-scientist-richard-stallman-defends-epstein-victims-were-entirely-willing

The Daily Beast

Renowned MIT Scientist Defends Epstein: Victims Were ‘Entirely W...

MIT bigwig Richard Stallman dismissed Epstein’s underage victims in emails and defended child pornography on his blog.

rough sapphire Sep 15, 2019, 2:49 AM

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thedailybeast.com is a valid site too?

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This isn't like the onion?

golden walrus Sep 15, 2019, 2:50 AM

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if you've read Stallman's blog before, I wouldn't doubt any site with that title

rough sapphire Sep 15, 2019, 2:50 AM

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Because Richard Stallman has said some whacky things in the past, but... ugh... this isn't looking good at all for him.

golden walrus Sep 15, 2019, 2:51 AM

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well I do not think he's "bad", just insane

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and doesn't seem to be aware of the fact that he's a public figure

rough sapphire Sep 15, 2019, 2:52 AM

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I mean, he wrote the GPL, I think that's fairly public.

golden walrus Sep 15, 2019, 2:52 AM

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he tends to rationalize everything

rough sapphire Sep 15, 2019, 2:52 AM

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||"Stallman has allegedly written dozens of posts on his personal website in favor of legalizing pedophilia and child pornography, in posts that go back as far as 15 years, "|| Woah, what? 👀

golden walrus Sep 15, 2019, 2:53 AM

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in ways devoid of emotion

rough sapphire Sep 15, 2019, 2:53 AM

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That I had no idea about

golden walrus Sep 15, 2019, 2:53 AM

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I do not know about that

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but he has written some weird stuff when it comes to sex and porn

rough sapphire Sep 15, 2019, 2:55 AM

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Not looking good for him, that's for sure.

golden walrus Sep 15, 2019, 2:57 AM

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https://www.stallman.org/archives/2006-may-aug.html#05 June 2006 (Dutch paedophiles form political party)

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what does that even mean

rough sapphire Sep 15, 2019, 2:58 AM

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I'm heading to sleep, so can't dig too much deeper into this. But that's pretty crazy.

golden walrus Sep 15, 2019, 2:58 AM

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have a good night

rough sapphire Sep 15, 2019, 4:41 AM

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How to run cpp files from visual studio code

rough sapphire Sep 15, 2019, 5:05 AM

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press f5

shell blade Sep 15, 2019, 7:24 AM

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f6

vestal briar Sep 15, 2019, 12:18 PM

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Oh dear

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Didn't he come up with JSON and or early contrib in JS?

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Also this is the only thing on wikipedia

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When he has been saying that since 2006 as @golden walrus showed?

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Ah, that is for a more serious topic, still should probably be reported on wikipedia

brave zealot Sep 15, 2019, 12:23 PM

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What is this??/

vestal briar Sep 15, 2019, 12:23 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman

Richard Stallman

Richard Matthew Stallman (; born March 16, 1953), often known by his initials, rms, and occasionally upper-case RMS, is an American free software movement activist and programmer. He campaigns for software to be distributed in a manner such that its users receive the freedoms...

brave zealot Sep 15, 2019, 12:24 PM

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Oh ok

fervent dock Sep 15, 2019, 1:47 PM

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Stallman also ate his own foot

frosty berry Sep 15, 2019, 3:13 PM

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well, that's his own concern, we don't have to care

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arguing for pedophilia is another matter

rough sapphire Sep 15, 2019, 3:14 PM

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I'm with @frosty berry on this. I don't really care if he ate half his arm for that matter.

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But yeah, the other thing.. that's kind of an issue.

vapid bluff Sep 15, 2019, 3:15 PM

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holy yikes

sand goblet Sep 15, 2019, 3:15 PM

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well I already didn't like Stallman

frosty berry Sep 15, 2019, 3:16 PM

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i know people who had to accomadate for him when he came for an event, he was apparently not as nice as you'd expect, from what they told me, he seemed unsufferable

autumn night Sep 15, 2019, 3:16 PM

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i was just talking about this with someone. dude totally missed the point

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hes using this as a soapbox for his edgy political views + defending his friends

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but she was forced, age has nothing to do with it

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i'm willing to assume he's not actually a pedophile or a pedophile apologist

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but he sure is sounding like one

frosty berry Sep 15, 2019, 3:18 PM

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i was concerned when i started reading about this controversy, though, the first quote from him that was attacked seemed to be twisted to give another meaning (someone pretending to be willing is entirely different from someone willing), but it's true it's not the first time he defend such positions, so it's hard to give him the benefit of the doubt