yeah it might still be alive. the bugger could eat you from the inside
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
tulip palm
gentle quartz
Raw fish is just weird texture wise for me
sand goblet
It doesn't sound like a pleasing sensation
quasi sequoia
most fish nowadays are infected with anisakis
in japan they don't freeze the fish, but I think in most other countries it is enforced by law
vestal briar
I wonder what happens if you where to swallow a live fish
Would it peck your insides or die in acid quickly
knotty lynx
Lmao
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire suddenly stuxnet 2.0
@rough sapphire Except stuxnet was done via a USB drive.
I'm aware
that's why this is 2.0
Not really the same thing, as you could just call this ransomware
I'm not referring to this
I'm referring to leaving a SCADA system exposed on the public net
It's just incredibly lazy to do something like this
Will provoke the interest of whatever foreign government happens to be in not good terms with them, such as motherfucking Russia
"You know what we should do? Put critical infrastructure on the internet. We'll be fine, we got firewalls!"
golden walrus
2 snakes in a bed
what could they possibly be doing?
a dakimakura
why is Python so sexualized
golden walrus
lovely
frosty berry
what they do is none of your business, whever they are married or not
robust sierra
Hey does anyone else have missing icons on their client?
frosty berry
"seeing"
frosty berry
i don't see these symptomes here
robust sierra
i did
spiral sluice
#help-coconut please?
vapid bluff
what os are you on
solid pollen
Outch macos for dev
sand goblet
nothing wrong with that
solid pollen
That's not the most opened os
sand goblet
it's BSD-based, it's more open than Windows
solid pollen
But it's highly incompatible with a lot of open source project, like a lot of them have bash or bash script but rarely command file. (if you see what I mean)
gentle moss
you can get bash on macos
sand goblet
it comes with bash
rough sapphire
ugys
undone berry
Mac is way easier for setting up dev stuff than Windows
Like, I hate the UI and the shortcuts on make, but using the terminal there is fantastic compared to Windows equivalents
bleak moss
!e
lst = list(range(1,26))
for i in lst:
print(i)
if i == 13:
break
royal lakeBOT
quasi sequoia
why do you convert range into a list?
acoustic fern
It's a waste of memory if you don't need to index into it though...
vestal briar
And that list gets converted back into a range, making the whole thing useless
bleak moss
Good to know
vapid bluff
gets converted back into a range? o.O
vestal briar
It's weird and cool that me sending this message and you reading it took millions of lines of code and billions in infastructure
vestal briar
Finally got a stable windows vm
tulip palm
haha "stable" and "windows" in the same sentence, you should become a comedian!
modern island
^ ROFL 
torn ridge
been running a stable windows10 since 2015, but hey, ERMAGERD IM LINUX MASTER RACE... eyeroll
plebs
frosty berry
windows 10 is not too bad, once you remove the crapware all around the place by default
torn ridge
yupyup, like i said not had any issues with it since 2015, works like a charm
tulip palm
i tried it for a while, had the worst experience i've ever had with an OS
frosty berry
i'm an ubuntu user since 2005, still happy about it although what i use doesn't look like ubuntu at all, but i don't claim that's the "right" way to use a computer, just the way i like
torn ridge
i use linux on my laptop, its nice, i like it, but i use my pc for gaming, and it does the job nicely ๐
frosty berry
a computer is to use any way you see fit, though it's better if you understand at least some of what it involves, to be able to take rational decisions instead of cargo-culting
currently wondering why the home server decide to act up, heh
torn ridge
i had a dual boot windows / debian machine back in. 97, that was AWESOME!
frosty berry
debian in 1997, damn that's early ๐
torn ridge
used a palm pilot, with a null modem cable attached to a sagem phone, so i could use "internet"
so installed telnet and boom, i could control my pc from anywhere
frosty berry
could be hacked from anywhere ๐ฌ
torn ridge
used to freak my housemates out by playing random mp3's at random times during the day ๐
if they wanted to hack my machine back then, they were more than welcome lol
frosty berry
with telnet anybody in the middle could just reuse your credentials
torn ridge
this was back in the day of token networks and ring networks ๐
EVERYBODY was in the middle
tulip palm
i was gonna ask if i could be given permission to hack your computer back then but then i realised, i hadn't even been thought of at that point.
torn ridge
i had an icq sniffer on my machine in the office
literally saw the entire offices "private" communications
things were a LOT different 23 years ago!
Cd burners were NEW!
tulip palm
did you see any private communications like
PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL
to runewolf,
lol ur mum
love from everybody
torn ridge
my manager was leaking secrets to hongkong, which i had to tell the managing director about ๐
tulip palm
ooh that's spicy
vestal briar
Time to wait for https://bop-repo.gitlab.io/bop-docs to work
torn ridge
it didnt feel good, i liked my manager, and the MD was a cock, but, i was threatened with my job if i didnt give him what people were doing
i ended up leaving shortly after
frosty berry
hard situation indeed
i don't know what i would have done, i don't like confrontation, but i would have wanted to give the manager a chance to explain themselves
the thing with espions though, is that they are often very likeable
torn ridge
oh he was clearly being dodgy, but what could i do
systems were pretty insecure back then
(very)
frosty berry
yeah, read a bit about that
torn ridge
someone sent a dodgy mail to my manager from my computer at a party, calling him names and allsorts, sent from my email, luckily i just logged onto the mail server and deleted it from home ๐
frosty berry
the good old time where you could fine buffer overflows in everything, and RCEs were just around every corners
frosty berry
could have been both in these years
torn ridge
lol probably
torn ridge
php then ๐
vestal briar
I wonder how insecure early wordpress was
frosty berry
haha, you would break the counter on that
torn ridge
plain... text...passwords...
vestal briar
Oh dear
torn ridge
jussayin
vestal briar
Php development in 3 words
frosty berry
i think it only got relatively secure in the last five years
torn ridge
fun times!
its what put me off linux for YEARS, trying to get devices to be recognised
and documentation and help was few and far between
frosty berry
it's easier to support hardware when manufacturers are doing all the work to support your system
vestal briar
Linux has came a long way
vestal briar
It's just plug and play in most cases with a ubuntu-based distro
frosty berry
mandrake was pretty popular in the late 90s too
yeah, hardware is much better supported these days
torn ridge
Suse was pretty good ๐
vestal briar
Not much of a learning curve for an average user with something like KDE either
I could probably get my mum on kubuntu without much hassle
She already uses libreoffice, thunderbird and firefox
torn ridge
i got sick of my mum calling me all the time for tech support because she'd clicked on a dodgy link
i just put ubuntu on her pc
she was using it for years!
torn ridge
all she did was web browsing
vestal briar
I feel like some people won't actually know if you do it right
Windows theme on XDE or something
frosty berry
my grandma used ubuntu for a few years, then my aunt bought her a new computer with windows, she wasn't good at using either though ๐
vestal briar
Oh well
frosty berry
my mum also has ubuntu at home, but she uses her phone more these days
torn ridge
awww yeah go tshirtgran
vestal briar
My mum is in the mindset of "I don't want linux because theres no point"
Which I understand to be honest
She is technical enough to not get random viruses
torn ridge
i like winderz
vestal briar
But still installs 20 antiviruses
torn ridge
windows defender + common sense and you're pretty much good
torn ridge
i used to use avg before it turned into bloaty crap
vestal briar
I can't think of one that's actually good
torn ridge
windows defender ๐
vestal briar
I always forget it
But wow is windows more bloatware then I remembered
Just ads for microsoft and candycrush everywhere
Alongside 20 prompts for onedrive
This is on a fresh vm install
stark prawn
Linux made my sisters unusably slow laptop function as new.
vestal briar
Yeah
torn ridge
yeah i put linux on my sons old laptop, it runs like a dream now (even though its sat in a drawer)
stark prawn
That's probably true for most people.
vestal briar
I mean desktop
stark prawn
But they don't realize it.
vestal briar
Not android phones
torn ridge
2 laptops with linux and a raspberry pi
torn ridge
and 3 desktops and a laptop with windows
stark prawn
Cars
vestal briar
Cars are not in your house unless you are fancy and have a garage that has so little junk in it can fit a car
stark prawn
vestal briar
That's always a possibility
rough sapphire
i feel like garages attached to houses are more of an american thing
my dad has a garage purely cus he works with cars, and its just a separate building from our house
gentle moss
garages exist in lots of places
it's nicer to convert them into something else sometimes
because if you've got a garage you've usually got a drive
tired osprey
we have exactly one house in these starts counting 30?32? rows of houses I live in with an attached garage
gentle moss
fun new thing that the anti-brexit loons are doing (not that i agree with brexit)
they're trying to organise a protest at a tory party conference type thing
and also set the world record for most clowns gathered in one place
i've been blocked by them on twitter for pointing out that maybe that's not going to play very well in the media or have any impact what so ever
apart from, quite rightly, giving people ammunition to attack people who want remain
frosty berry
at that point you really wonder what common sense thing would be effective, so i guess you start thinking outside the box
gentle moss
the headline isn't going to be
WORLD RECORD BREAKING PROTEST
it's going to be
THOUSANDS OF CLOWNS MAKE JOKE OUT OF BREXIT
frosty berry
and people will be able to say that there are more clowns here than the official count, or that the real clowns are not who you think, etc
gentle moss
or that people just aren't taking it seriously
frosty berry
it might be effective, sometime ridicule is the best tool you have
gentle moss
a number of people have tried to make themselves figure heads for anti-brexit
and they are a fucking joke
they make music videos
go on holidays around europe to "promote anti-brexit"
they should take this seriously
frosty berry
when someone like boris johnson is prime minister, it's time to consider being stern and serious might not be the most effective move anymore
gentle moss
getting thousands of people to dress up as clowns is not a good thing
that's....
fucking dumb
frosty berry
what's your solution?
that big petition got a dead-on-arrival response by the previous PM, and the new one is even less likely to listen to such initiatives
gentle moss
well it'd be good if the anti-brexit camp had a serious figurehead who doesn't dress up in a superwoman costume
frosty berry
that's not a proposition, that's the opposite of that
i'm not saying doing anything is better than doing nothing, but something has to be done, and things that were tried up to now didn't have a lot of effect
frosty berry
so if you have better ideas, feel free to help, because that sounds like an important issue, but shutting down people who try something doesn't help a lot
gentle moss
well she crowd funded ยฃ30k for a rail trip around europe to promote anti-brexit stuff
frosty berry
watching that debacle for the last 3 years from over the channel, i'm not sure what your country could do at this point to get out of that hole
gentle moss
but has repeatedly used racial slurs in making her anti-brexit argument
disrespected the holocaust memorial in berlin
frosty berry
well, europe is certainly mostly anti-brexit, so i'm not sure that's the best way of 30k pounds, but ok
gentle moss
yeah
that's my point
she's semi-popular, has got 30k off a crowd fund, and has used it to swanny around europe on a little holiday
doing paintings and singing songs
frosty berry
ok, these are good arguments, if she's a racist and an holocaust denialist, then you certainly don't want her to represent such a movement
frosty berry
hm, that's a risky PR stunt indeed
gentle moss
yeaaaah
i suspect she didn't think that she was standing on a slab that represented the millions of dead
frosty berry
did she appologise?
gentle moss
but i mean if you're going around europe trying to promote how you love europe and you wish the UK should stay
maybe like... have some awareness
no, she didn't
frosty berry
:/
gentle moss
when people pointed it out she made herself out the victim
and now she's going on TV to do interviews and claiming to speak on behalf of remainers
interviewer: "if we have a second referendum and it turns out people still want brexit, will you respect that?"
her: "well i don't think so. this is a democracy."
like...
waaaaaaaa
frosty berry
that's a weird answer, are we sure she got the question right?
gentle moss
she definitely understood it
i suppose her point is that even if people voted for brexit again
there would still be an anti-brexit group politically
but the way she handled the interview was fucking awful
frosty berry
yes, but then her understanding of democracy is pretty different from most people i'd say
gentle moss
she should've used part of that ยฃ30k to hire a PR firm
that would help MASSIVELY
she's a figure head the majority of anti-brexit people don't really want but is the one on TV saying really dumb shit
and, i'd like to point out, dressing up as superwoman
frosty berry
yeah, the media kind of like people saying outrageous things, so they promote them more
gentle moss
and calls herself "EU Supergirl"
the grift is fucking strong
tax authority might have questions about that ยฃ30k
frosty berry
30k is a lot for a tour of europe yeah ๐
i'm trying to plan my vacations for far less than that ๐
gentle moss
she claims it's work
which means it's taxable income
unless she can prove it's for charitable causes
but music videos, recording sessions, paints, hotel rooms and booze
errrrr
plus a rail trip around europe
oof
i will be surprised if she isn't slapped with a tax bill on those donations
frosty berry
yeah, anyway, it shouldn't be your only political option to avoid brexit if you want to
if people like her can get there, surely others can, you just have to be willing to be a public person
gentle moss
it's a matter of the absurd getting more attention than the reasonable
frosty berry
well, maybe finding absurd ways to make valid points can be effective
people love soundbites
it's a sad thing that it's easier to make wrong ones than true ones
but it's worth trying?
gentle moss
i don't think it helps
i think a serious figurehead who is articulate and informed might be better than someone who does stunts
sand goblet
But then, boris was elected
gentle moss
by 100k people
sand goblet
Even so
rough sapphire
I have a plan that if I drink barely alcoholic drinks Iโll be able to drink longer 
gentle moss
and male
vestal briar
๐ค
gentle moss
NEWS FLASH: Drinking less alcohol means you can drink alcohol for longer without getting drunk.
rough sapphire
shut the fuck up man
frosty berry
hm, drunk already it seems
vestal briar
The best way to not get drunk is to go on a dialasis machine
Pretty sure that's not true seeing I don't know anything about medicine
quasi sequoia
The best way to not get drunk is to not drink alcohol
vestal briar
Hello
rough sapphire
o/
shell blade
the best way to get drunk is by a enema/s
shell blade
@rough sapphire anddd they are drunk lol
vestal briar
Before then I didn't know what I was doing with programming
@rough sapphire Hello, tell me your biggest secret as you're drunk
rough sapphire
im actually not drunk just stupid
vestal briar
Or both?
vestal briar
You sound drunk
rough sapphire
why
vestal briar
Like not as drunk as lemon that one time
rough sapphire
im typing fine
vestal briar
You are using childy words more then usual
rough sapphire
sand goblet
Childy
vestal briar
Yes
rough sapphire
well to be fair she did say emenenenememema
vestal briar
Childish
sand goblet
Are you sure you're not the drunk one
vestal briar
Whatever
sand goblet
Haha
frosty berry
sleep?
vestal briar
Blip bloop
rough sapphire
robot expains the big brain
frosty berry
don't learn to deprive yourself of sleep, i've made that mistake, to my loss, and it's hard to unlearn
frosty berry
slept ~5h a night for years
rough sapphire
@vestal briar rIot the sober
vestal briar
Can't spell
rough sapphire
I SPELT IT RIGHT
rough sapphire
i accidentally had a capital i okay
rough sapphire
i tried to capital r
quasi sequoia
sorry for calling you bad person before, Riot. Even if it was just a joke :C Ok, better now.
quasi sequoia
I told you it was going to rain
rough sapphire
in minecraft
quasi sequoia
oh
vestal briar
Riot is 100% drunk and if just lying
rough sapphire
NOOO
vestal briar
What did you drink..
rough sapphire
gdude was trolling me earlier but hes not onlione
uh
i had a couple VKs
and some other aclopop thing
and like only 2 shots
vestal briar
shell blade
i assuming you don't know whata enema is
shell blade
can we pin this^
tired osprey
literally every time I come into an ot channel after 1 am in the morning I find
either a selfie of riot
or
a weird thing riot said
why
rough sapphire
because my face is beautifulk bitch
tired osprey
your face with weird black stuff above your nose?
rough sapphire
yes
tired osprey
i doubt
tired osprey
๐ค
rough sapphire
ill kiCK ya in the balls
tired osprey
thats rude
rough sapphire
Yeah, that's pretty rude
i also offer free castrations
he suggested i was ugly, that was rUDE
tired osprey
no no no
i suggested your face is not beautiful with black stuff above your nose
that does not mean ugly
rough sapphire
Yeah, that is what they said.
rough sapphire
What
grave phoenix
g stands for gun gale online
rough sapphire
@grave phoenix what
grave phoenix
@rough sapphirecheck the channel name
rough sapphire
Okay but what are you talking about
grave phoenix
The channel name
rough sapphire
I know but why are you trying to copy it with random words that begin with g
grave phoenix
rough sapphire
What
grave phoenix
rough sapphire
??
gentle quartz
G stands for my friend g
rough sapphire
g stands for gdude
tame pier
G stands for uh
shell blade
well
tame pier
WELL
pine vector
sure
rough sapphire
Apple warns you may "permanently" discolor your Apple Card if itโs stored in leather
https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/EChqtD9WkAA2Ip4.mp4
shell blade
i know knownerror its a huge surprise to everyone
rough sapphire
tame pier
Wtf is an apple card
pine vector
hey Madi! ๐ i've been busy/lurking for a couple weeks.
rough sapphire
Apple credit card
pine vector
and those Apple Card stories have been supplying giggles for a few days. i love it.
rough sapphire
pine vector
well, ostensibly to frame it. for insta-points.
shell blade
you only get 1% back on those cards too yuck
rough sapphire
Oh, this is a good time to bring this up:
This is a general message to everyone, If you answer your security questions honestly, use a password manager.
That's probably the easiest way to break into an account, and I've seen a few instances of it recently from people I know.
No need to break a 32+ character password when your security questions consist of What's your favorite sport? and What is your dog's name?
shell blade
that would be a ton of footprinting to figure some of those out though right?
pine vector
there are some interesting generational splits from a data perspective. like my generation using What was the name of your first pet?. Pre-internet so hard to crack. but if you honor their passing on social media with some regularity...boom.
rough sapphire
@shell blade Well, look at it like this
If I can talk to you for 10 minutes and find out the answer, no.
shell blade
hmm yeah thats true, i guess
pine vector
or...listen to your Alexa [recordings]. ๐
rough sapphire
I 100% believe in randomizing your security answers the same way you randomize your passwords, with a password manager!
I'm a fan of KeePass personally, as it's not connected to the internet. But it's up to your threat model I suppose
shell blade
is it possible to run word lists for those answers?
rough sapphire
Considering most any site that has security questions will rate limit, no.
Hell, even free e-mails like Yahoo/MSN/AOL/Gmail will rate limit, let alone anything else.
tame pier
I imagine It's not as easy to automate unless you reuse the same questions across sites
If you do, then its the same as passwords
rough sapphire
I mean, I would use the same questions and then just answer it differently
The security question doesn't matter. It'll be shown to anyone who "forgot" your account.
pine vector
threat model is an important part to understand though. dragnet wouldn't be as successful as a personalized attack, right?
tame pier
WORDS ARE HARD
rough sapphire
"What is your dog's name?"
- answer:
SOMEBODY_ONCE_TOLD_ME_THE_WORLD_IS_GONNA_ROLL_ME_I_AIN'T_THE_SHARPEST_TOOL_IN_THE_SHED
5he_WAS_LOOKING_KIND_OF_DUMB_WITH_HER_FINGER_AND_HER_THUMB_IN_THE_SHAPE_OF_AN_L_ON_HER_FOREHEAD
A dragnet isn't cracking security answers though
pine vector
Your answer contains no numbers. Please try again.
shell blade
yeah and no lowercase either
pine vector
hehe
shell blade
we all better be going to dc28 i hope that would be so cool
rough sapphire
Probably not. I mostly watch the videos afterwards
Unless anyone wants to pay my way in, lol.
tame pier
Hell yeah Madi
shell blade
lame scoot lammeee
tame pier
Scott is boring
rough sapphire
I ain't got $3,000 to blow on that kinda thing
pine vector
i don't want to get my identity stolen. all thems hackers... ๐ฌ
tame pier
Nice!
rough sapphire
As much as I want to bump into an active stringray at defcon, I'd prefer not to 
shell blade
bring a burner if you are that paranoid
rough sapphire
That's not how stingrays work
pine vector
Scott, thoughts on the quasi-prime crypto firm suing Black Hat? that also supplied giggles for me. between apple card stories.
rough sapphire
@tame pier ๐ค Are you saying stingrays aren't an issue at Defcon?
@pine vector Eh? I hadn't heard about it
I'm interested
pine vector
i don't math enough to have an opinion on their work. but the suit just seems like the wrong play there...
rough sapphire
It reads like they have no clue what they're talking about
tame pier
Stingrays are pretty hard to get
If you're paranoid leave a VPN on and use Signal for all your messages and calls
shell blade
i mean you can make them but still ...
rough sapphire
@tame pier Surely you jest? https://hackaday.com/2016/04/08/build-your-own-gsm-base-station-for-fun-and-profit/
Stingrays themselves, sure. But the concept is trivial.
shell blade
yeah stinrays is the term agencies gave them
rough sapphire
Stingrays are LEO/FBI type stuff. But you could easily make one yourself
Now, using them is probably illegal, but we're also talking about Defcon.
shell blade
but im pretty sure you can detect them too scott
rough sapphire
Oh sure, but that depends on the device you're using
pine vector
"Its for educational purposes. Plomise."
tame pier
Ok, dude
rough sapphire
The FBI or local police regularly deploys IMSI-Catchers hidden in vehicles at protests to obtain a record of everyone who attended with a cell phone (leave your phones at home by all means if you really have to attend). IMSI-Catchers also allow adversaries to intercept your conversations, text messages, and data. Police can use them to determine your location or to find out who is in a given geographic area at what time. Identity thieves can use freely available tools and even build their own rogue GSM BTS to monitor and manipulate communications from a parked car in your residential neighborhood - notably for stealing passwords or credit card data from people nearby who make purchases on their phones. The reason IMSI-Catchers are so commonly used is that it is very easy to get away with using them since they leave no traces. Our app aims to make it possible to detect the IMSI-Catchers so that using them becomes a risky proposition. It also aims to make users safer by alerting on possible interception and tracking.
I used to run AIMSICD all the time on a previous device and I found it useful.
tame pier
Just assume you're compromised while you're there
shell blade
werid i though providers would know if a ismi was on their network
rough sapphire
@tame pier That makes more sense
shell blade
I think scott just doesn't want to go...
rough sapphire
@shell blade It's easier to force everyone within an area to connect and deal with it later rather than going to each provider and saying "Hey, we want everyone that was at x protest. ..... Yes we know it was a legal protest, we're just curious. ..."
I'm willing to go, no problem with that. Just can't drop that kind of money on that.
tame pier
Split a room at a cheap hotel
pine vector
and get robbed. #catch22
shell blade
my flight is mega cheap so i wouldn't mind a better hotel
pine vector
i need to go to bed. so negative right now... ๐
rough sapphire
Thought the tickets were like three grand?
pine vector
i've still never even been to Vegas. and don't plan on it, really.
shell blade
for a flight?
shell blade
no dc27 tickets were 300usd
How much is admission DEF CON, and do you take credit cards?
The price for DEF CON 28 is TBA. For reference, DEF CON 27 cost $300 USD Cash for all four days. Do we take credit cards? Are you JOKING? No, we only accept cash - no checks, no money orders, no travelers checks. We don't want to be a target of any State or Federal fishing expeditions.
rough sapphire
Where'd you find that at?
shell blade
rough sapphire
Would be neat to do a talk too. Physical Security and You: Hacking Your Computer With A Wrench
shell blade
you could talk about killer
rough sapphire
Eh, it's not feature complete. Hopefully it'll be farther along by then too.
rough sapphire
Is that Running Man
pine vector
indeed. ๐
rough sapphire
Great movie
Actually, that reminds me
@gentle moss You should make a techno remix featuring samples from Arnold Schwartzenegger.
"RUN, GO. RUN, GO, RUN, GO. GET TO THE, GET TO THE, GET TO THE CHOPPPAAAAAAA"
pine vector
specifically, the 9mm bullet pizza.
rough sapphire
"Who is your daddy, and what does he do?"
"I'M A COP YOU IDIOT!"
hi
That'd be pretty great
pine vector
rough sapphire
Anyone know if the pattern for os.path.getsize is 1024 bytes?
for 1 mb
Good question, sec
oh
Nvm
i think that this just return the number in bytes
Oh yeah, that makes more sense
yes, thanks anyway
No problem ๐
pine vector
scott, i went a whole week at a job once, answering questions only with an arnie soundboard. twere glorious...
tame pier
It's $300 cash
tame pier
Lmao
pine vector
i see you have partaken. ๐
shell blade
"i take a peperoni and puch it through your head" lol
shell blade
night!
shell blade
what?
shell blade
its a good flick!
tame pier
It's alright
Don't like horror much, my psyche makes it bad after the fact, or at least used to
It's gotten less bad in recent years
rough sapphire
what's wrong with IT crowd
shell blade
yeah i can understand that sometimes i get anxiety or just feel weird after some horror movies
rough sapphire
IT is a good movie
shell blade
is it me or does tom cruise look super old in the new top gun move trailer
tame pier
No
vapid bluff
i dont get why IDLE has so much crap going on
copied it out to notepad and there are objects from all kinds of weird unnecessary modules here
e.g. first glance i can see stuff from socketserver
why?
probably something involving debugging
>>> import gc
>>> len(gc.get_objects())
14435
>>>
ok thats better
fresh python repl in command prompt has ~13k objects
printing the list out made it seem much worse than it actually is
running a basic script without repl: ~6k
frosty berry
uh, this won't last long i guess
sand goblet
now now, Owez, we can't make cultural assumptions based on colour
robust sierra
Hello
vestal briar
import error: human owen not found
robust sierra
so basically i want to log into github but my phone's upstairs so i cant do 2fa :(
vestal briar
So walk upstairs?
robust sierra
no
sand goblet
yubikey
robust sierra
interesting
sand goblet
I have one myself
robust sierra
but what if i buy a yubikey and i leave it upstairs too?
oh fuck my lens popped out of my glasses
sand goblet
I keep mine in my PC, since I have no imminent worries of someone coming into my house
speaking of my PC, it's nice to have internet good enough for a remote desktop via ssh forwarding
wish I could do it the direct way, but google wifi won't let me configure it again
royal heath
praise owez for teaching my useless ass basic python
vestal briar
Alrighty then
rough sapphire
Gooooood morning
sand goblet
o/
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire okay well you sent a photo before and I asked if you was the guy or the girl and you wouldnโt tell me so i donโt know
rough sapphire
@sand goblet the server like kinda shat itself for half an hour yesterday
sand goblet
I know
rough sapphire
I have since turned explosions false in my plot
sand goblet
TNT can actually be made safe
rough sapphire
It made some cool landscape tho and Iโm starting like a nuclear bunker type thing
sand goblet
I'm still thinking about the missing blocks problem
at first I thought it might have been PhysicsToGo but that only really affects logs and explosions
it's not that the type of block is the same, it's the location
it also does it to tile entities
but also it doesn't always happen
and it doesn't seem to happen to pre-1.14 worlds
I need to ask kashike about it
he'd know
rough sapphire
Oh also itโs still on in creative world
rough sapphire
oh okay 
@rough sapphire wait which photo
was it this one?
The photo of two fucking naked ass people
sand goblet
the one where you have long blonde hair and a black tanktop
rough sapphire
Yeah I saw that but there was another
rough sapphire
๐ shut
sand goblet
he has a totally metal first name
OK so I asked around the paper server
they've said what I was afraid they'd say
"A/B testing plugins and then a github report"
rough sapphire
i donโt know what that means
sand goblet
a/b testing means you disable half the plugins, and test
and if it still happens you test half of those plugins
rough sapphire
Ahhh
sand goblet
and so on until you either find the bad plugin or run out of plugins
rough sapphire
who has a metal first name? ๐ค
sand goblet
you
rough sapphire
who me
sand goblet
yes you
rough sapphire
Rasmus isn't metal
sand goblet
it's totally metal
sand goblet
well I came here to kick ass and eat donuts
and I'm all out of donuts
fumbles in bag, pulls out a bar of chocolate
tired osprey
rasmus sounds metal
sand goblet
this will do
rough sapphire
I came here to kick donuts and eat ass, and Iโm all out of ass
sand goblet
careful you don't get kicked in the donuts!
tired osprey
I would now ask what ass you ate but I'll probably regret the question
rough sapphire
my own ass
tired osprey
how does that work bending wise lol
rough sapphire
Some guy tried to kick me in the nuts one time and the look on his face as I barely flinched, because I donโt have nuts, was priceless
fuckin dick kickem
rough sapphire
am big boy
But yeah online I either get asked if Iโm a girl or if Iโm like 8
not sure if this is the right vid but whatever
tired osprey
or both
rough sapphire
just chain smoke cigars bro does the trick
tired osprey
speaking from experience
rough sapphire
Iโve tried but I find itโs eh, Iโm just really waiting for hormone therapy so I can go through puberty number two
sand goblet
I don't think that'll affect your voice all that much, will it?
rough sapphire
It will incredibly affect my voice
Not instantly but after a few month itโll drOP big time
sand goblet
Huh, okay
rough sapphire
yeah it affects voice quite a bit
sand goblet
well when someone comes online sounding like a gruff cowboy, we'll know who it is
:>
tired osprey
chain smoking xx?
rough sapphire
<_< my voice is already pretty deep, not so sure if it's gruff
tired osprey
just a matter of time
rough sapphire
Itโs also affects things like fat distribution which Iโm not excited about cus my thiccy thighs are gonna turn into a podgy belly
who knows, you might grow a humongous bumgous
MINECRAFT TIME
rough sapphire
how many people done play it?
sand goblet
we have ~20 players in total
tall coral
anyone has experience in installing a linux distro on an old laptop? specifically the lenovo s410p
rough sapphire
sand goblet
it's not the 20 regulars Scragly challenged me to reach though
haha
but on the other hand I don't want to advertise it too aggressively
sand goblet
I want to be able to do Minecraft gift codes for Jackbox
but I can't fucking get 'em
it's so frustrating
rough sapphire
what do you mean you cant get them?
sand goblet
They don't sell them on the site anymore
Gamestop doesn't stock the cards anymore
and I can't get to a Smyths
and Amazon won't sell them to Ireland
sand goblet
Mojang support hasn't been very helpful
rough sapphire
yeah it never is
sand goblet
yeah if I was in the UK I could get them
sand goblet
on that front they have actually been very helpful to me
rough sapphire
because they had changed the email with teh account
sand goblet
the account I'm using now used to be very, very well known
I had to change the email address
it's the only thing that stopped it from getting hacked
rough sapphire
i got hacked but they changed the email with my account so i had to go to customer support and stuff
cus i couldnt just change my password
rough sapphire
all of my old accounts are set up with my old email
i have a youtube account that i made when i was younger thats set up with an email that i cant get into anymore cus they like blocked me cus i was too young or something idk
so i have a bunch of cringey videos that i cant delete
sand goblet
Sounds like a good time
tall coral
which one would you recommend? @rough sapphire
rough sapphire
Does anyone want to work on a build together in creative plots on thepydis server
sand goblet
I can't, I'm out of town
rough sapphire
Ooh travels
frosty berry
who let their parent on their computer? oO
and no matter how crap it looks, deleting other's people files is off-limit
sand goblet
not everyone has their own computer, haha
frosty berry
the image says "your computer"
sand goblet
oh yeah
frosty berry
you should, but a lot of people just share the same session :/
there are even couples sharing the same email, as a way to show they don't have anything to hide from each others
tulip palm
my mum knows mine because it's the same password i've been using since i had windows XP in like 2007. she just doesn't care though. /shrug
frosty berry
not that i always do, but it might be a good idea to change more than once a decade ๐ฌ
tulip palm
nah i don't really care :D
frosty berry
hopefully it's not a password you use for anything important then
tulip palm
oh no it's just for my computer login
frosty berry
(password reuse is one of the biggest sources of hacks)
tulip palm
yup!
rough sapphire
i just recently changed my computer password
vestal briar
I need a new one
Time for a swap
Some russian dude is using my world of tanks account lol
rough sapphire
im using some random guys pornhub premium account
he still uses it, idk if hes noticed im using it yet but ive been using it for a while
rough sapphire
?
sand goblet
There are sites where people literally just list their accounts
vestal briar
Ususally from data breaches though
sand goblet
The old classic is bugmenot, but literally every site that cares knows about it and scrapes it
No no, not from breaches necessarily
Haha
rough sapphire
@tall coral: "which one would you recommend?"
if you know your way around linux, arch is the best for scenarios like this
it can be very lightweight if you want it to
well i mean he accidentally leaked his password and then never changed it after so im gonna say its his fault
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
that's... still illegal
even if it's his fault or not
tall coral
well i absolutely know nothing abt linux so theres that lol
im just trying out diferent OSes
i installed ubuntu mate and its ok so far
maybe ill try chromium os tmr lol
rough sapphire
Oh god help oh god help oh god help
I have pornhub open at a tab at the top
And my mums just come in
And asked to use my computer fuxk me
ever heard of incognito
I didnโt plan on her coming in
She either hasnโt notice or is ignoring it but Iโm shitting myself
Sheโs checking my email cus I should have an insurance quote come through
Oh thank fuxk sheโs gone
your mom like https://i.imgur.com/3OwwxZF.png
Probably
I mean it quite blatantly said pornhub in two tabs at the top
Iโve closed them now
God that was scary
how much fuckin porn do you watch that this is a genuine issue
multiple people have caught you with porn now, me including
I donโt I just opened it cus I was talking about it
I always watch porn on my phone
lmao
She just literally chose the one time to come in
Do things you heart come up in other peoples feeds?
Man I must be spammy as hell to follow
I like and retweet most things
yeah, but only when the algorithm feels like it
it used to be pretty straightforward - nowadays, not so much
hnnng
frosty berry
Private mode -> different window, alt-tab or ctrl-shift-w
rough sapphire
i wasnt on the window
rough sapphire
my cars had a hell of a day
i had to jump start it earlier
then i realised i was like literally about to run out of fuel so i had to go fill it up
then as i got out i fucking wacked the door on a wheelbarrow
sand goblet
No, this is his car
vestal briar
Prove it by donating me ยฃ200 per month
rough sapphire
thats like my cars in gta
thats a cute little car tbf
id swap the green for white but
sand goblet
it's Mr. Bean's car
rough sapphire
ah never really watched mr bean
i wouldnt want it as like my main car but as a second car sure
sand goblet
The security is great
in the show, the key goes into the back of the car
through the window
:>
rough sapphire
lmao
yeah i remember mr bean being like high on security just cus i remember his apartment door having hundreds of locks lol
vestal briar
You know when your mum says she will be back in like 45 mins
And they are always back in like 50% over what they said
That's great :)
rough sapphire
i dont really keep track of how long my mum leaves for
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
she just kinda comes back
sand goblet
rough sapphire
i wanna be ablle to spawn fish on my plotttttt
i have an aquarium and no fishhh
I hate when Iโm sad and someone asks โwhyโ because I dONT KNOW WHY
Kids are annoying
Like shut the fuck up oh my god
Iโm gonna go over there and fucking cut a hole in their trampoline
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire u need noise cancelling shit
suggest the sony wh-1000xm3
sorry?
vestal briar
I'm assuming a semi-troll, semi-legitimate user that have a native language other then english?
vestal briar
He keeps saying random stuff across all offtopic channels
jagged fog
ik
vestal briar
Not sure what he's trying to do
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
His english understanding is varied
He has a decent vocab but can't structure a sentance
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire i already said i have headphones
theyre noise cancelling
but i. am. outside.
vestal briar
In the garden?
rough sapphire
@vestal briar im getting mad at everything lately dont worry
well not anymore but i was yes
pine vector
hard to go wrong with that show
vestal briar
Rewatching
sand goblet
is the middle one for a dog or something
gentle moss
it's a massive stack of chicken wings
:P
maybe too many chicken wings
i might be regretting it
ivory shard
That picture looks deep fried
gentle moss
outside with bright artificial light
gentle moss
it's got a nice smoky flavour
not that spicy
the miss loves it
the plate has, in clockwise order, mayo, sriracha, carolina reaper sauce and last dab
vestal briar
My uncle just stole my laptop for 10 mins to search for tubeless bike tires
And forced me to sit next to him
Fuck sake
quasi sequoia
yep that is the one!
I love chipotle :3
It has an acid flavor like citric too, at least I remember that
I hope you learned something of all that, Owez
gentle quartz
G stands for generally a sadboi
rough sapphire
g stands for GRANLOA
tulip palm
the g stands for guys this joke is getting a bit old :D but there are some gems in the otnames for sure
gentle moss
the g stands for f2g
tulip palm
holy shit yes
gentle quartz
G stands for gimmie a hug
tulip palm
hugs
quasi sequoia
hugs
gentle quartz
thanks guys
gentle moss
i'm bad at photos
rough sapphire
you look like a crack addict who has just left the house for the first time in 30 days
tulip palm
funny
tulip palm
i guess you've never seen people on LSD
gentle moss
^
tulip palm
although it's not too far off
gentle moss
lil weans making references to things they've never seen at someone who's seen it
smh
tulip palm
hey well ive seen it too
gentle moss
you can get a good idea from some documentaries
don't have to actually go into a crack den
rough sapphire
i have met crack addicts, and you do look like one
tulip palm
i mean, ive seen somebody cabbaged from sniffing MD which was certainly something
quasi sequoia
I have just seen heroin addicts :C
vestal briar
There where 2 heroin addics that where a couple
tulip palm
that often happens yes
rough sapphire
the hoodie with the pale skin and disorientated look and your eyes look kinda tired which idk why but i see that in crack addicts often
gentle moss
a semi-friend of mine is an on an off heroin addict
also crack and speed.
nice enough guy
usually gets about a year or so of clean, then 3-4 months of not
it's a shame, he's a good mechanic
quasi sequoia
we could talk about cats too...
gentle moss
i dislike cats
vestal briar
Slightly dark veins
gentle moss
but my new rats are doing super cute things
rough sapphire
they probably dislike you too
vestal briar
๐ฅ
quasi sequoia
you dislike cats, or are you allergic?