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cant see any nsfw stuff
that's nsfw
OH theres one
yeah images comes up with nsfw with me
i'm in safe search off
same ^
not a lot of it š
i see a lot of nsfw in images and 0 nsfw in websites
same
yep same
same here
was that a plot to make us all look at porn?
oh the first site is nsfw
I didn't force anyone :/
we had to check
mine was wp as well
omg, for "chat"
good SEO
yes, i definitly didn't click on the first one for chat
tho there is one site called THREAD/SCREW š¤
cute
I would not search for "screw measurements" tho
doing it
ok, it is all SFW, but firefox crashed..
need more ram
or maybe grab a book about a subject that interest you, or just a novel
asimov is great if you want some classic sci-fi
the robots are short novels, easy to get into
A writer named after the csgo skin smh.
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32bit is being phased out, next generation of windows os will probably not even allow 32bit applications. ```
Alrighty dude, that's not how windows works but alright
as if 10 isn't the final one
technically apple has been on os 10 for more than a decade.
maybe the next one wont be called windows
now that ms is heading into linux territory maybe theyll work on their own full-fledged distro lol
looks like things are headed that way... maybe
i don't think they'll let go of the window brand any time soon
microtux lindows
Note that [os] 10 is like the number 3 for valve
do you mean 9
@tulip palm ?
valve never released 3, microsoft and apple didn't do 9
macos and windows have stopped at 10
Apple did do 9
It's only windows that skipped 9 as 10 is their final one
I missed windows 4, 5 and 6 :/
(actually 1 and 2 too, but I know they existed)
oh W95 was Windows 4
@tulip palm It's funny you bring up 3 for Valve, considering the script was released for Half Life 3
It's been official that it wasn't going to be a thing for a while now š
Though many people don't know that
Half life 2 episode 2
@glass gorge @vestal briar They're not, though.
But how can you be sure
Marc Laidlaw has been with Valve since '97, for one.
Did you really not know this? š
http://www.marclaidlaw.com/epistle-3/ Is the original post, but the Github above fixes the "typos"
Dearest Playa, I hope this letter finds you well. I can hear your complaint already, āGertie Fremont, we have not heard from you in ages!ā Well, if you care to hear excuses, I have plenty, the greatest of them being Iāve been in other dimensions and whatnot, unable to r...
Considering that was posted 2 years ago, and it's by a guy who's been with the company for over 20 years, calling it a hoax is far more than a stretch.
Oh yeah, Marc Laidlaw was the writer too š
can you tell Valve to buff Clockwerk
@wet steppe That's implying I have any connections whatsoever at Valve
every time I read @gentle moss's statement I see "fanfic"
but clearly he couldn't have made that typo, i is on the other side of the keyboard

haha
@rough sapphire Oh I knew all of that
There's also a game made from them
Basically a community-made hl3 from official unofficial scripts
Does anyone feel like looking at my github page and suggesting where I incorporate the menu?
I'm going to just assume using the just ask rule: https://virufac.github.io
Let me offer some insight about the page's design intention. Unlike most pages that are designed to either push a money/signup/or landing page of some kind while sending as many links out to other pages as possible, I want my page to be about the content of the page.
It's design is such that it would be good for fiction writing, where one page continues from the last page, and they are all kept chronologically.
That is why I want it to read like an ereader, and... a loud menu would be counter to the page design. That said, I need to incorporate a menu option somewhere. I'm thinking about putting a three bar menu icon at the bottom, between the pagination links -- some what like a phone UI might be, but....
I feel like that's pretty extreme: to make the basic navigation out of sight until you scroll to the bottom. That is putting the content of the page first, but... maybe it would be better to just keep menu links small in quantity, and use a discreet horizontal bar at the top or below h1.
Thoughts?
Getting Better at Python3 with viruFac
@rough sapphire have you seen Owen's new web?
owml? I've heard of it but not familiar.
what about a mobile-like menu?
the 3 horizontal lines at the top right
maybe too minimalist
but I dont know what TLS wants to put in the menu
Yeah, I could do that. It should be minimalist.
Phones looks like
It should feel like you're reading from an ereader
I'm just using jekyll
Dont blame you.
I put on a dark colour scheme, it had 6 to choose from
I hate my jekyll theme. But it made me learn things since it was almost empty
The colors of my page range from 1-360, and are randomly generated at page creation
So each page has a different hue on the HSL spectrum. This is mainly just for testing, so I try out a lot of colors and get a feel for what my favorites are.
It also just adds a unique element that makes someone potentially want to flip through pages
Cool
are you using 'contributed projects' to clean your 'personal projects'? Owez
Suspicious greeeeens
?
1 week ago: I will use ' for dictionaries and " for everything else
today:
why would you want to use ' just for dictionaries?
Just use "
actually, don't know :/ I keep mixing " and '
i use " for everything unless it doesnt work then ill try use ' just to hope that fixes it magically somehow 
" masterrace
i use " because it's consistent with PEP257
yeah, says docstrings should be """this""" and not '''this''', so i don't know why you'd ever use """this""" along with 'these'
Most people use "
Like I have only seen ' used on 1 semi-popular python lib
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At first I started using it to differenciate keys from values easier
{"duck": "food", "apple": "food"} -> {'duck': "food", 'apple': "food"}```
i don't like that at all
thats blasphemy
if your dict is unclear enough to need differentiation like that, you should do py stuff = { "duck": "food", "apple": "food" }
yes, I see I can't keep my method consistently :/
And also it seems it is frowned upon... I was not aware of that
yeah pep8 says you should remain consistent with your quotes
json might be a (bad) reason to want to use something different for dicts than for other things
- replacing around 150 quotes from the current project *
not manually i hope
^
vscode probably has a way to search with regex
vscode, checking that I don't change an apostrophe or a quote in between double quotes
That's why I \' all '
So once I replace all ' to "
I can replace all newly-formed \" back to '
usually i use single quote unless i need single quotes in the string, then it's double quotes
the number of times that happens is small enough that it doesnt make things very inconsistent
I just use single for that ^
I finished, but I knew I made mistakes >_<
regular expressions to the rescue f".*".*"
Regular expressions? CTRL+F to the rescue you mean š
CTRL+F, and regular expression mode set
most of my quotes in between double quotes happen when I use f-strings. Also when I use join()
Ah yeah, that makes sense.
Woke up at 4pm and Iām now going back to sleep at 8pm... 
My pyportal got here!
oh awesome!
Whatās a pyportal
yup!
i'd get one myself if they weren't so damn expensive
but of course, they're probably worth the price, i have no doubt about that
Hmm sounds interesting
I got mine with the 10% off
It came with this ruler thing that also runs CiPy for free as well
oh neat
yeah i saw that in one of their announcements or something
didn't know it was itself a microcontroller, looks pretty neat
looks like a trinket M0 on there?
I feel like I need gloves to handle it lol
you won't damage it or anything, if that's what you're worried about. if it's anything like the circuit playground express, it'll be very robust
I feel like I should have cut myself on it immediately, but I haven't
But that's circuit boards for you, they have rough edges
This girl at my college is letting he brother who looks no more than 10 play GTA and is āawwāing at him and Iām MAD like heās young young
Eh
I think I was 7 or 8 when I played saints row, it was funny to me to just drive naked with a silly character 
Not like anything bad will come from keeping someone entertained in a sandbox game for an hour
It just pisses me off, like I donāt think you have to be 18 to play an 18 rated game but being like 7 feels way too young to be like torturing someone in a video game
That's 1 scene in the entire game
And if you are playing it temporarily, you wouldn't be playing the story mode
Itās a whole mission, and itās detailed as well, especially after. Itās one of the scenes that I played and I was like okay I see why this got backlash now. Didnāt bother me but I didnāt expect them to take it that far
They donāt have ps plus so he would be
Playing through story mode at 7 is bad, yeah
But just playing it for an hour on freeroam is fine
I just donāt like how okay she is with it, yeah GTA can be innocent but I know that she generally has the responsibility of ālooking after her brotherā, and itās just not something I was be awwing at
and itās just not something I was be awwing at?
(I don't have the context of it fyi)
In the caption of the photo she was like saying how cute it is that heās playing GTA etc
Oh, no
Not cute, you are just being a shitty caretaker
I only played saints row because I secretly played it at my grandmas house when nobody was looking š
I played some cake making game when I was 7 at my nans house 
I think the most violent video game I played when I was young was COD4
My sister had that on ds, something about disney princesses š
COD4 was also the first game I completed start to finish, I was very proud
I was laughing my head off having a naked purple glossy fat british guy on a motobike
Lmao
So there's that
Also I stole a police car and thought I was taking a shortcut by plunging it into the river for some reason
And I had a grudge against people with green shirts aparently š¤
That's all I remember
I think when I was like 9 maybe I was taught what tea bagging was because I would play halo with my sisters boyfriend and he told me
not in detail and I didnāt clock what it fully was until about 2 years later but
I think I fully learnt what it was from smosh, their videos cannot have been good for my child brain lol
Hahaha
Their videos would not pass today at all, aimed at kids with swearing and obvious dick joke, demonetised instantly
Oh god I do
When I started getting into weird phases of learning about adult stuff I would just search it on YouTube, and most of nothing would come up, if I had googled it I would have probably gotten porn sites but looking back at my YouTube search history from when I was like 10 is amusing
I have been putting a ton of privacy stuff from I don't even remember
No virgin media filter can block me!
Hint: just change your dns
My parents never had filters 
My one occasionally had filters
I have filters on my data which is annoying but
Not implemented by parents
Just boring things like blockers from the uk high court
I prefer to keep anything completely open
Usually it just comes down to 2 plugins on firefox and the occasional tor
I still have yet to find away around the block on my data
If Iām using my data I canāt access anything thatād be 18+
And I donāt wanna go And ask my parents to change it thatās weird
Tor is your friend if you really don't want to ask parents
I should start trying to mess around with the tor browsers for phone again
Yeah
Android is ez pz
I donāt like Apple but I also donāt like change so I refuse to move to a different phone
Apple phones are overpriced
Yep
I'm the opposite. Apple products generally irritate me. If someone hands me one and tells me to do something my reaction is, "I'd rather not."
They donāt irritate me, easy to use, theyāre just not so flexible
Yeah, I don't really like that about smart devices generally. But Apple is definitely worse in that way. I don't need an easy to use device though.
It's weird Apple computer use the posix standards, but they insist on using nonstandard hardware.
Microsoft is the opposite.
They have standard hardware, but hteir OS is backwards
I prefer easy to use since my phone is just when Iām not at my computer, Iād rather not worry about getting to learn how to use it and different features, just play music watch Netflix pretty much, the only thing that I use my phone with 9/10 instead of my computer is for any 18+ sites. And so blocks from my data is annoying
Oh fuck, I found a twitter from 2018
mm. lol. yeah, I'm too old to have that problem, but I sympathize. The way I l;ook at convenience software and devices is that that they are manipulative of me with no way around it.
Id trade the convenience for control.
I dont really use smart devices for anything unless im out
And then I tend to be less attached to the Internet because im out.
Crazy right lol
I do respect Apple on some things though
They apparently dont turn data over to the police, which is nice.
Holy shit this twitter is cringe
Twitter has been cringe
I posted a picture of myself in 2016
I broke the tos by like 2 years
And it's a shitty picture
I use my phone in bed and when Iām out both times I like to be able to do things quickly and without thinking so I like apple for that but I just wish there was like a idk āturn off safetyā feature where it just allows your phone to be more flexible
My old Twitter was weird as fuck
It was just filled with porn basically for the exact reason I just mentioned, couldnāt get onto 18+ sites so I resorted to twitter 
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Just going to gloss over that
Apparently I was into youtube videos in 2016
I'm not sure what happened but I don't remember much after the start of last school year
You know them times where you just think "I'll never remember this moment, this day does not matter" and you never do
@rough sapphire Androids packaging system
When I was 8 I wanted to see how long I could remember something and I sat on my bed and said that I would remember this moment as long as I could and I still remember
I have only had 2 of them
So, like an Android app?
1 was year 6 sitting in the lunchbreak
4 people remember that exact thing, we made a fucking pact for it
The other was half-way through this year, standing outside a class for some reason
I just saw this meme, does pornhub have an Android app

r/hmm
You realize that it's blocked network-based
So installing an android app won't help
@rough sapphire
I mean Iām just jealous tho
I mean, it's just a website
Thereās no app for iPhone 
I wonder if pornhub has an api
Lmaooo
Maybe https://www.hubtraffic.com/ ?
Join Hub Traffic's internet marketing affiliate program right now and start to earn money online sending your website traffic to any of our sites.
Looks fake
Probably yeah
https://github.com/sskender/pornhub-api There's this but rule 5?
Unofficial API for PornHub.com in Python. Contribute to sskender/pornhub-api development by creating an account on GitHub.
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How is that breaking rule5?
It's 4am and I am looking at porn apis on github
Lmaooo
Oh no, mods
@vestal briar Yes, that's a Rule 5 no no
Am I getting my rules mixed up
Rule 5 is that people wonāt help with anything that breaks the law right?
Maybe not Rule 5 actually
Yeah
Well owez is under 18 actually so maybe
illegal for you to watch the porns 
Just on github looking at an api
I wonder if anyone has been arrested for that
Like ever
Timmy, jail for you
I had an incident that Iāve been told by mods that Iām not allowed to mention too much but basically the answer is you donāt get arrested you get a warning
It's probably breaking Rule 5 (ToS scraping), and it's borderline Rule 9. I suggest not sharing it here, take it to another server or DMs.
Yes mr mod
Rule 9?
That includes you @rough sapphire
Sfw rule
Oh
oh, sorry
Thanks š
no
oh no
y'all are finally catching up
well finally done travelling for a while so hopefully that will vhange soon š
great
are you an uber haxx0r now
actually participated in a few CTFs this year with various peeps and actually made some progress in them too
haha no
just a normal dude
thats exactly what an uber haxx0r would say
lol
yeah, actually, you would be surprised how much some CTFs dont exactly require you to be turbo l33t to do everything.
And...

the experience of hanging out with people who are solving these problems teaches you, and they are usually pretty glad to ahve interested newbies tag a long, especially if you know python
they can be like, "Hey we need to do this. Can you write a program to check all this while I do x?"
And you become like the lacky
But you learn
Discord merch is under appreciated tbh
I am a member of https://hackers.town
I dont really know how they let me in...
Also,. the Facebook link was from an April Fools joke where we pretended to get taken over by Facebook
Discord wont clear the cache lol
that was Lua's approach
Hereās the plan: when someone uses a feature you donāt understand, simply shoot them.
This is easier than learning something new, and before too long the only living coders
will be writing in an easily understood, tiny subset of Python 0.9.6 <wink>.```
ā Tim Peters
legendary core developer and author of The Zen of Python
This is better.
;3
Donāt fuck with my kahoot score 
..
i mean you cant argue with them, theyre not wrong 
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Someone just posted their keyboard on reddit and I really like the caps
Some of them are kinda useless though
They are
Iām really digging the big font Iāve been seeing on some keycaps lately
This is weird
I feel like starting to get into bed soon
But I have only been up for 4 hours
Ducky also released the frozen llama keyboard that looks cool but idk if itās worth it I already have 2 ducky boards 
Iāve been contemplating it since they released
but it looks so pretty
Do you actually use any of the keyboards
Mhm
its a pain to switch them in and out okay
People usually buy a good keyboard and use it for 5-10 years
Expensive hobby I guess
Yes
where can i get help to learn to code a bubblesort?
and 2D arrays?
I need to get myself a red keeb tbh they look nice, I have one with like 3 red keys on but itās not the same
See this guy understands
Oh of course definitely
God I would die for you fake mechanical keyboard 
I would swap every single one of my keebs just to use yours for an hour
Itās beautiful
Find out where I live first 
Do you actually want me to try?
no plz
Also look how beautiful this documentation is
A lightweight markup language.
I just moved it into a page on my website
And it looks fucking beautiful
I mean youād just have to grab my ip to find a rough location, find the nearest 256 bus stop and know that I visit that bus stop

:P
hmm grabify, never heard of that before
ffs
Did braindead take the joking bait?
I pressed the first linkž
Lmao
Yes, yes he did
then I saw what you said eralier
I didnāt click either 
Haha
Anyway, ip's are boring
You can just change it now by restarting your router
Jesus this is shady

@vestal briar All URL shorteners are shady.
Yep
TinyURL less so, as you can see a preview ( https://preview.tinyurl.com/mbq3m )
is that a machine gun? :S
@quasi sequoia What?
Drummer's photo... above the umbrella there was a.. machine gun?
hey on the topic of @rough sapphire, how'd it go?
@quasi sequoia You mean https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463035241142026251/610898744283496458/image0.jpg ?
yes
@rough sapphire Is that your image? ^
it's an image from a reddit post https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cpttt3/finally_found_a_comfortable_place_for_all_my_keebs/
according to the comments the one visible in the image is a bb gun, he has a hunting rifle and a shotgun above it that are real
Holy shit I got the parser officially working!
It can parse (i) 625443 (i) 234535; (s) 'This should be 1234:' (i) 1234; into actual tokens
wasn't the logo a W?
@quasi sequoia There is a different logo for the website and parser
wasn't the website logo the circles?
You can find the logos here: https://gitlab.com/owml/owml-branding/tree/master/v1
There is a main one
With the circles
And then individual repo logos
corrosponding nom error?
?
That isn't the full comment
@quasi sequoia Full docstring (/// is what rust uses): rs /// The main frontend parser for owml. This takes in an input of `&[u8]` and /// returns a Vector with several keypairs (a tuple containing 2x [OType]) or a /// corrosponding nom error.
You can input a string and it will parse it into a 2d list looking like [[name, value], [name, value], [name, value], [name, value], [name, value], [name, value]]
@quasi sequoia ^
(That's simplifying into python)
cool
It's in rust but it's all quite standardized
what is a nom error?
Nom is the library I am using to parse with
so a parse error
Yeah
illegal language
I have an internal error enum but nom basically translates that into it's own standard one
Yeah @quasi sequoia
It's like SyntaxError in python
I wanted to see documentation about the language syntax :C
Ah, I have yet to make it :P
It will be here once it's finished https://owml.gitlab.io/owml-website/docs/lang-spec/
A lightweight markup language.
yep I reached that link
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It basically looks like this: json (s) "Hello" (i) 1234; (i) 346346 (s) "This is data"; (s) "This is a name" (o) { (i) 85632 (o) { (s) "woo" (s) "cool!"; }; (s) "Ok, finished here" (s) "What my name said"; };
That would be this in a python dict: json { "hello": 1234, 346346: "This is data", "This is a name": { 85632 { "woo": "cool" }, "Ok, finished here": "what my name said" } }
so you have to declare types?
Yeah, it's a staticly typed markup language
(Under the hood it actually infers types so there isn't a need for it but eh)
like my code? owo
Looks like it could do with a ton of loops, less wm and less undefined, _ vars
It's unsafe code waiting to pounce
i could have done a struct
but i like pairs of pairs of pairs more š
i sent this for fun, but tbf for for loops its only 5 or so, not worth writing it
Also no not my photo @rough sapphire from Reddit haha, said āthis guy understandsā because I was told that I didnāt need too many keyboards 

i donāt think thatās relevant information owez
I mean
If I got phone number, I could spoof you and get a sim card on your mobile
Get all contacts and bypass any 2fa
but you donāt and wonāt get a phone number 
I donāt even know my phone number without checking lmao
If I did
I could just say I forgot and give your address
Another easy way to do it
You donāt have my address tho
Remember I could
:D
I mean no point in that
And I am just listing common hacking methods at this point
If you got my phone number Iād call the fuckinh police and get a restraining order cus Iām not alright with that 
Happened to a couple streamers actually
I wouldn't need your phone number, only a duped sim card
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Depends on how important of a person you are though. Right?
Yeah
Only either some fucked up person or someone with motives will do it
Also it's pretty hard to do
On paper it's easy but realistically it's quite hard to do
I assume at least ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
@vestal briar Of course that only works with SMS-based 2FA, and of course that doesn't bypass anything else.
Still can get into a bank account with it
my bank shut down their virtual credit card system and suggest everyone switch to google pay instead
but google pay doesnt work on my phone cause unlocked bootloader
rip
use your phone as if it was a credit card
need to pay for a thing? hold up phone in front of a scanner/sensor
bam
done
Though not many stores actually support NFC purchases like that.
here?
nz (and i assume australia too)
or as you should call it, greater nz
dunno bout that, we have 100% less funnelweb spiders
Some light relief. https://twitter.com/KeatonPatti/status/1161489890284097539
i mean, it's funny, but i don't understand why he has to lie about it being written by a bot
Because itās funnier than saying āI wrote some funny sentencesā
He has a bunch like then I love him
Loce?
I got a question about cURL : I ran curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/arduino/Arduino/master/.gitignore > .gitignore and it's downloaded the file nicely. But line break is missing. Is it a windows only problem ?
It probably has Unix line endings. Stop using notepad :>
it could be a <CR><LF> vs <LF> issue which would be a windows problem yeah
Hm why don't windows change their preffered standards so it is easier for everyone in the long run?
l e g a c y
and muh >why is your way more correct than our way
CRLF isn't a standard, and neither is LF unfortunately
You know how all osses still support both?
most modern text editors will do LF instead of CRLF regardless of OS as far as i know
it's not an OS-support thing at all, i wouldn't think
Just making it the preffered way would be a lot less troublesome for everyone
those all do different things
^
they're all line terminators
in unicode, they are
They do slightly different things
And you can't remove one anymore for backwards compatibility
it's up to the application to handle them
unicode just says they must all be handled as line separators
I wonder if you can make a monochrome picture by putting a different font on
yes
yes
Just replace 0123456789abcdef with shades
I think there is already a tileset in unicode
Yeah
yeah
Yeah
Block Elements is a Unicode block containing square block symbols of various fill and shading. Used along with block elements are box-drawing characters, shade characters, and terminal graphic characters. These can be used for filling regions of the screen and portraying drop...
looks weird to me
i like certain beauty youtubers, some are toxic as fuck tho
Most have some kind of persoanlity "quirk"
wdym personality quirk
There was one that just bought her friend around and talked about their fucking personal life to 5 million people for 20 mins
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if thats what she wants to do and people wanna watch then sure
beauty people do a lot worse on a regular basis than that lol
That's also what I mean but I have not watched any purposefully
This episode has a half about the beauty tuber community https://gimletmedia.com/shows/reply-all/mehwa6
Reply All is great
it really is
Alex Joooooooooones. is that a new one?
ah no, i've heard that one
well that's fucking insane
"it's sadiq khan, the mayor of london,'s fault that there are so many stabbings! he should DO MORE!"
government: "we've decided to print some positive anti-knife messages inside chicken boxes."
not 2 days ago they were saying that kids get into drug dealing / crime through offers of free chicken from "fast food chicken gangs"
Haha
maybe they should have anti-chicken messages inside the chicken boxes
Jesus, just make a task force that does shit
since everything seems to come back to fried fucking chicken
im sorry what
fast food chicken gangs
people are commiting crimes that could ruin their lives for some free chicken?
no, it's a dumb thing some people believe exists
that doesn't really
usually reported by shit like the Telegraph
i mean some people do really like chicken lol
oh sure, but i mean... gangs have methods of controlling people that aren't at all related to fried chicken
but they're making a big thing out of the fried chicken aspect
fuck knows why
clicks
i sorta do know why but eh, drawing that link is tenuous at best
it's uhhh
a socio-economic issue that in certain countries in the world has an implicitly racist kind of tone to it
i think in this case it's just some classist bullshit that wiffs of a little bit of racism
maybe this will be like cigarette packets
it starts off as a little message
then rather than it being a diseased lung, it's a stab wound.
THEN you target it at children, so start printing it inside happy meals
see, i said it out loud and it's only slightly more insane than their real actual policy
which part?
the stab wound pictures
depends where they put em i guess
however i'm pretty sure this government is just flipped in the head enough to think that's a good idea
like they thought this was a good idea
"we could increase levels of community support and engagement in troubled areas? perhaps more social programs?"
"naaaaaaah, unworkable and the results aren't tangible."
"we could increase the levels of policing in those areas?"
"too costly."
"well brian had this idea he wrote down on a box of fried chicken...."
"WRITE ON A BOX OF FRIED CHICKEN?! I LOVE IT."
i do not have answers
hurray ~50/~50 split on Brexit continuing til global warming destroys the earth https://twitter.com/Survation/status/1161591657697034240
Well a lot of people who though a no deal brexit was good just chanded their mind it seems, so that's positive
But yeah, such a waste of time and energy
Maybe? The numbers seem within the margin of error though
as in the only real takeaway from this poll is the 50/50 split with overall favour for a deal based Brexit no mandate for no deal
6% is in the margin? How many people were polled? š¬ ok, i'll just read
Ok, 2k is not a lot
Whilst its not a huge amount, polling methodology is pretty well nailed down at this point
Oh sure, but it can only do so much with such a small sample
Woo burnout mode
If youāre not eating Doritos and biscuits and 12am are you even living
@rough sapphire funny you should say that, i was also eating crisps and biscuits a couple hours ago
I'm eating very healthily
Also i'm not sure why I am using a bag for rubbish even though I have a bin next to it
i too eat chisels
i don't have a 3d printer
:D
They are suprisingly cheap now, I got mine on birthday for £170
I really need some posters
It's been like this for a year
Also I don't know why I hopened that picture on main monitor, don't ask
Meanwhile I'm eating a sandwich
everyone are from different countries, different age
Well I'm Ishan from India. I'm 16 and hav recently started learning python... So I hope y'all will take care of this little adorable kid.....
M, 60, Scottland
Anyone watches anime here?
@patent stirrup whoa I am from India too. I too, have recently started learning python.
Heyyy brooo
heyyyyy
16/f/ca
@quartz stratus which state bud?
34/M/fr
Fr?
pretty sure Fr stands for Frennsylvania
Ooh
I'm pretty sure he wasn't even referring to the US given that he's from india
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i was hoping for a follow up on me saying 52 states from an American tbh
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District of Columbia and Peurto Rico might be state one day
the Republicans are trying to stop that
cos both those states would vote Democrat
i think there are plenty of americans who don't even know Peurto Rico is a territory
and that Puerto Ricans are American Citizens
I half remember a poll where >50% didn't know Puerto Rico was a territory
When was that
probably before it got completely fucked by a major storm and left to rot
i think people are more aware of it now
probably hasn't changed their attitudes to it though
Yea
2016, not exactly as I said, but less that half knew Puerto Ricans were us citizens
Argentina is a joke rn
dunno anything about that
IDLE even converts tabs to spaces for imdenatation
I love how no one brought up Guam
a relevent question, bisk. why indeed. (in general)
huh, interesting
why is it Obama there?
because i guess they're trying to promote democratic values / something and he's a pretty good symbol of that? idk man
maybe in his country, not outside....
yeah, i'm aware
how am i supposed to know what the Home Office's counter-terrorism department is supposed to be thinking
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He's one of the most intelligent and honourable people in politics in general, let alone the US, he's a good symbol imho.
yes but also did some fucked up shit with drones
He's great, and one of the best cases for the system, making it harder to fight it?
'
' means you are replying to me?
means i approve
it's a "this"
I haven't touched javascript in years...
I'm from North korea, actually 20 years
I'd be pretty surprised if someone could prove that people used Discord up in NK
You have been banned from r/pyongyang
well, i can think of one person that would have access to discord there
..well, yeah, okay, haha
that would be a fitting avatar
(and yeah, i know what this avatar actually is, thanks)
is it the BSDemon?
yes
yeah, I remember hearing about that
Why is age so important in programming?
it's not
it's not, but most sites ban people < 13
the number of old programmers is much smaller than the number of young ones though, the job has seen an incredible increase in popularity in recent years/decades, and if you add to that that not all the ones who started as programmers stay there (it's not uncommon to move to management), the old ones are much harder to find
heh, seeing people reinvent the same things over and over, most of the time badly, can make that i guess
haha, yeah
and we are spoiled by powerful hardware and high level languages that hide an aweful lot of complexities, we don't have to twist our brains so much to make it fit
Yup
@frosty berry : yeah... a lot of apps etc i look and think... how the hell is this so slow on this hardware, when we could do so much before...
abstractions are great to build higher piles of things and reach higher, but we should be careful about only keeping them if they provide a lot of power without too much cost, as when you rely on one, its cost is then paid forever in the future
and do they pile upā¦
python's handling of memory can certainly seen as criminal considering how wasteful it is (it's good considering the freedom the language allows, but it is costly, and do we need all that freedom?)
a lot of that can be worked around with smart compilation though
cython, nuitka
it's not "vanilla" by any stretch of the imagination though
as long as you keep real python objects, you still have objects being modified everytime they are accessed (refcount), and that prevents anything to be shared between multiple processes (as the OS does copy-on write to anything that two process access).
i love python's syntax, and it's all i use, but damn, am i spoiledā¦
there's a new multiprocessing shared memory module coming in 3.8 https://docs.python.org/3.8/library/multiprocessing.shared_memory.html
though i never really managed to get it running. iirc it doesnt currently support complex objects. only ints/floats/strings and lists thereof. and each one has to be below 10 megabytes. not sure how much it's progressed now.
ah the limitation seems to be in this one particular data structure: https://docs.python.org/3.8/library/multiprocessing.shared_memory.html#multiprocessing.shared_memory.ShareableList
Provides a mutable list-like object where all values stored within are stored in a shared memory block. This constrains storable values to only the int, float, bool, str (less than 10M bytes each), bytes (less than 10M bytes each), and None built-in data types. It also notably differs from the built-in list type in that these lists can not change their overall length (i.e. no append, insert, etc.) and do not support the dynamic creation of new ShareableList instances via slicing.
i assume there's nothing preventing someone writing their own extensions/handlers for specific objects then
Aaaaaand Iām not going to the trial shift great
so i just migrated from travis to github actions, it's nice, faster and all, but i don't see a way to get a "passing" badge this way, there is only the ā on the latest commit at the top, but i don't think people look at that, and writting in the readme to look at that is aweful š
that status can be check in js, but for obvious and legitimate security reasons, you can't do js in a readme.md on github
what happened drummer? :S
ah damn Riot, did they cancel you?
Iām just not going
I donāt want to go
I will tell gdude
@sand goblet ban Drummer
more than that, you want to go, you are already blaming yourself for not going, while it's still totally possible, you are setting yourself for failure, that's an avoiding strategy, and a very bad one
I want a job but I donāt want to go to it
Then you have to go to it
You're giving yourself too many options
Nobody wants to work, but you need money, haha
yes, you'll see it's not as bad as you right now think it is
people were nice when you met them for the interview, right?
it's totally normal to have a higher level of stress before the first day of any new work, and even more so in the first one, it's ok, everybody had that
I only talked to one person but yeah
just go through with it, even in the totally unlikely chance that things go wrong, it's not going to be as bad as not going, i promise
you'll learn useful stuff going, whatever the end result is, you'll have that
the only good reason not to go was if you had a better opportunity right now, and were ready to explain it to them
Iām just worried things will go horribly wrong
(because it's not ok to bail on people without the earliest notice possible, unless they mistreated you)
not going, is the worst possible kind of wrong here
they might go wonderfully well. you wont know if you dont go.
they want you to be productive for them, so they'll do their best to give the right conditions for you to do that, if they are not stupid
and even if it goes bad, it won't be so bad, and it won't be as bad as not going
I had a panic attack getting dressed Iām worried Iāll panic more there
it's normal that you worry
but if you don't go you'll "learn" that not going is an option, and your default mode, and you'll both hate yourself for that, but still learn the habit.
but that's not who you are, you are just underestimating yourself
they know that you might need to isolate yourself if you feel overwhelmed?
š
I want to be 18 again :/
I don't
I really couldn't imagine going back to how I was when I was younger
I mean sure, if I could have made myself start coding earlier
so you would choose being a programmer again? š®
Iām 18 
make the most out of it
that is why I said it, drummer
Call me Riot lol
ok riot (but drummer sounded cuter)
99% of people call me Riot but lately a bunch of people have been calling me Drummer and idk why
I just saw someone calling you so
Iām just trying to waste time tbh
look good
good luck
Iāve walked into every shop
Iām here early oh lord
Hey guys is it safe to disk clean?
@fossil solar use the diskcleanup tool, yeah.
just watch your downloads folder, as some versions pick that up as well... you can just untick it
run it once as a user, then run it again, clicking the 'clean up system files' option
Iāve been given a uniform and Iām about to start my shift

@rough sapphire awesome! thats great.
enjoy.
first go clears the 'user' stuff. the second run clears windows stuff... specifically rubbish leftover from windows update.
i'm off, will be back on later... feel free to DM if you have other questions... (not python stuff)
Okay
It's been 3 hours and update 1903 is still not complete š¤Æ
At 96%
Was stuck at 94% for nearly 40min
Windows
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Holy fuxk
You had sex with the pope?
Work is hard Iām sweating and Iāve only done 3 hours 
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Honestly fuck me fuck this Iām not coming back
you are not coming back home, you enjoy it too much here š, right
Am SWEATIBG
if it helps, think of it in terms of what youll be able to buy afterwards
all this sweating is gonna be a new mechanical keyboard š
right now nothing cus you donāt get paid for trial shifts
Though make sure you have a savings fund
its not even tho
Iāll making like Ā£200 MAX a week
And like owez says, saving
Don't blow all of your money on random shit when you could save it for when you need it
@rough sapphire Apprentiship?
Ā£200 per week is less then minimum wage?
Part time
Ah
Ā£8 an hour
So minimum wage part time?
nonesense financial responsibility is for noobs you should spen all your money on novelty teapots
Minimum wage is like uh Ā£6 or something o canāt remember
Yeah
these kind of jobs don't pay a lot, and they are tiring and stressful, but that's a starting point, good to get work experience.
Yeah definitely not planning on spending my life there lol
But itāll do until I get to uni, get some good qualifications to get a better paying job
Which coincidentally will be more physically straining but
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When you make a new window with a web browser with one already open, is it launching a seperate program from the same binary or is a daemon already running that manages it, taking up the same memory as a tab
today's cooking experiment: rice a roni, frozen chopped spinach, and pre-cooked chicken chunks (perdue 'short cuts')
worked out well in terms of flavor, but turned out a bit soggy, next time i'll use less water in the rice and add the chicken and spinach earlier so it can absorb that moisture
the ratio of a whole package of each worked out nicely, maybe slightly heavy on the spinach
(it was a bit difficult to mix, though, if i had a larger pan maybe)
They can be pretty small
One I've got makes 2 cups of rice at a time
It also doesn't have to always be on the counter, can easily tuck it away wherever
Hey, got an issue with gpu drivers (maybe?), and since y'all know way too much about everything, here's the problem:
When playing some game, I get the "The nvlddmkm display driver was no longer responding" WITHOUT the part saying it succesfully recovered at the end (because I've seen a lot of that when googling earlier), and I crash. I've tried soooo many things after googling, yet nothing seems to work...
Any ideas?
What are you doing when it crashes?
Well, I crash like 10-30 minutes into the game, and nothing really changes during that time period. I often crash without doing ANYTHING that is gpu intensive
Is it one specific game?
Yeah, not sure if it's related to that, but I also get an opengl driver warning after that
Which game is it?
Minecraft lol
Are you using GeForce Experience?
I have it installed somewhere, but barely use it
Welp, I try updating the drivers plenty of times
Completely getting rid of them with DDU software thing
that's what they're calling it these days?
Holly tried explain to Lister why they are on the emergency supply of milk.
How do you milk a dog
the same way you milk a human
- check that it has the necessary apparatus
- milk
sorry i'm acting strange right now i'll stop
Or the same way you do an almond, completely evaporate it.
yeah that's an option too
I like Scottās way better
oh you're in space too?
yeah i thought i was the only one
got lost up here while i was on a walk one day
never found my way back
ah well
@upbeat scaffold send me your precise location
@rough sapphire š
Being a tad bit creepy, don't you think?
@rough sapphire wrong ping?
SEND ME YOUR PRECISE LOCATION
yeah you pinged the wrong person didn't you
I WANT TO GO INTO SPACE
sorry for not being you @upbeat scaffold
well you see riot, i kinda just fell up here
I CAN HELP YOU GET Bck
please don't, i don't wish to be incinerated by re-entry
just tell me where you are and I promise I wonāt give your location to a creepy old man
well i'm currently over the pacific, if that helps
but that's subject to change, with the whole "earth is spinning" sort of thing
That's what happens when you're above a rock spinning a gorillion miles a minute