#ot1-perplexing-regexing | Python | Page 291

vestal briar Jun 30, 2019, 11:05 PM

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Ok that looks very hash, was ment to be a bad joke

narrow comet Jun 30, 2019, 11:06 PM

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is it the death grip thing

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I don't get it

vestal briar Jun 30, 2019, 11:06 PM

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Replacing betteries in iphone 4s has a tendancy to fuck up wifi

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Theres this little soldered down pole that attatches 3 different fucking things and its fiddily

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Also breaks easy

rough sapphire Jul 1, 2019, 1:47 AM

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did we bring back P yet

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bring back P or we Piot

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 5:22 AM

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why email is still a thing

summer rampart Jul 1, 2019, 5:40 AM

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why not?

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 6:45 AM

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insecure, inefficent, spam magnet

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old tech

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 6:47 AM

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So's your mum and she's still around!

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😄

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dont some companies still use fax machines?

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i know doctors have only recently given up pagers too!

tame terrace Jul 1, 2019, 6:48 AM

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@tight fractal Google agrees with you. that's why they made Google Wave, a product that is "what email would look like if invented today"

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and they put a lot of weight behind it

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 6:48 AM

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but nobody can spoof my mom

sudden wharf Jul 1, 2019, 6:48 AM

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Yea, email is crap

tame terrace Jul 1, 2019, 6:48 AM

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articles like this popped up declaring it was a paradigm shift https://blog.teamtreehouse.com/six-ways-that-google-wave-is-going-to-change-your-business-career-and-life

Treehouse Blog

Six Ways that Google Wave is Going to Change Your Business, Career...

Google recently announced their most ambitious project to date called Google Wave. According to Google, Wave is “what email would look like if it was invented today.” If you haven’t made time to watch the one hour video, I’d highly...

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and then a few years later it was discontinued because nobody in the world used it.

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 6:48 AM

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@tame terrace oh that's hot

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I'll read it now, I was just looking at https://www.inc.com/john-brandon/why-email-will-be-obsolete-by-2020.html

Inc.com

Why Email Will Be Obsolete by 2020

Stick a fork in your email--within five years, something else is going to replace it.

tame terrace Jul 1, 2019, 6:49 AM

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so that's why email is still a thing

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 6:49 AM

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the tricky thing about tech

tame terrace Jul 1, 2019, 6:49 AM

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because even when one of the largest and richest companies in the world try to replace it, nobody is interested.

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 6:49 AM

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it has to come at the right time, not before, not after, just exactly at the right time otherwise it'll just miss

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 6:50 AM

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googles also getting less trustworthy each year

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 6:51 AM

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they should lol, i am searching shit on incognito and I see ads for it on YouTube

tame terrace Jul 1, 2019, 6:51 AM

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this predates that tendency.

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 6:51 AM

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I wish i was just seeing porn ads, it would've been easier to explain

tame terrace Jul 1, 2019, 6:51 AM

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I would argue that Google reputation was perhaps at its highest ever when they launched wave

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 6:51 AM

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they could have made a big ass banner on Gmail's index and pushed Wave like crazy

rough sapphire Jul 1, 2019, 6:51 AM

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what's google wave

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did it die

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 6:51 AM

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I am only finding out about it just now

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^^

tame terrace Jul 1, 2019, 6:52 AM

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they did push it on Gmail.

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 6:52 AM

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i switched from google to duckduck go and from chrome to firefox, because i watched 8/10 cats foes countdown on youtube, i get SPAMMED in news about one of the people on there

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i still use gmail however because damn it would be hard to switch now

rough sapphire Jul 1, 2019, 6:52 AM

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you could use protonmail

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 6:52 AM

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yeah but its switching everything over

tame terrace Jul 1, 2019, 6:52 AM

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all Gmail members were automatically invited to Wave and got lots of emails about it.

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and yet nobody here has heard of it.

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because it was years ago and it burned bright for a few weeks and then went out

rough sapphire Jul 1, 2019, 6:53 AM

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use rules to redirect your emails?

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 6:53 AM

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in my opinion, if you had to sell wave in one sentence; would you be able to?

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 6:53 AM

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then im still using gmail lol

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theyre still getting my mail which then defeats the whole purpose of ditching gmail

tame terrace Jul 1, 2019, 6:53 AM

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that sentence back then was "email 2.0"

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 6:53 AM

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for example: facebook connects you with old coworkers and schoolmates

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uber: get a ride, anytime, anywhere

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 6:54 AM

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wave allows you to wave at people?

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 6:54 AM

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i just heard of wave and i don't know how it works, i could be reading (uber: taxi 2.0)

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 6:54 AM

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📎 hi.gif

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 6:54 AM

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and i wouldn't care

rough sapphire Jul 1, 2019, 6:54 AM

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like.. 1. take all contacts you ever receive email from -> add message as auto reply "I will be available on ___" till they start sending emails to your new email.. 2. Close gmail after all your contacts have started to email your new email 3. Forward all gmail messages to other email in the meantime

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 6:55 AM

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tron, i dont email people... or use it for communication

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its logins, thats it

tame terrace Jul 1, 2019, 6:55 AM

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@tight fractal if you're suggesting that Google didnt do a good enough selling it that seems naive.

rough sapphire Jul 1, 2019, 6:55 AM

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naive like a fox

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 6:55 AM

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google has a big graveyard of apps, most of them we haven't even heard of yet

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 6:56 AM

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I liked Google wave

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It was neat

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But yeah, email is still around because people still want to use it

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It's hard to kill an established technology

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Especially one that even the worst of luddites can use

rough sapphire Jul 1, 2019, 6:56 AM

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there's probably a meme somewhere about all the dead ones

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 6:56 AM

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there's a dedicated website for it

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 6:57 AM

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Yep

rough sapphire Jul 1, 2019, 6:57 AM

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totally called it

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 6:57 AM

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https://killedbygoogle.com/

Killed by Google

Killed by Google is the Google Graveyard. A full list of dead products killed by Google in the Google Cemetery.

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 6:57 AM

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Privacy is no1? 😄

tame terrace Jul 1, 2019, 6:57 AM

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Google have the money to try and fail. wave made a big splash and they threw a lot of money at it, and the selling point was exactly what you were complaining about: email is insecure, old fashioned, error prone, full of spam.

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but it still failed spectacularly

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 6:58 AM

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I think the future of email will just be improvements to it

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Shame DMTP never took off

tame terrace Jul 1, 2019, 6:58 AM

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so my point is - they've tried to replace email. it's just harder than you might think.

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 6:58 AM

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I work with people irl that use eircom's email

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Their servers don't support encryption

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I even wrote a blog post about it

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But I sure as hell can't get them off it

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 6:59 AM

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you think blockchain would change that

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 6:59 AM

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Blockchain is a meme at best

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It does one thing well and one thing only: Digital scarcity

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Which is what it was built for

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:00 AM

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for example, email servers like klaviyo requires that you optain consent from people, if you get spam reports they shut you down for good

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:00 AM

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That wouldn't work in the real world

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The number of times I've heard about people in offices sending IT emails to junk

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:01 AM

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maybe a blockchain powered email echosystem can establish "trust", trusted people would be able to report spammers and the whole network will block them

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i mean i guess we can already do that with regular email but it's not good enough

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:02 AM

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Nah, that's setting up for failure, you can't really have a group of people that's above everyone else

proper dune Jul 1, 2019, 7:02 AM

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Tell that to Libra :^)

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:02 AM

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That's a big hole in crowdsourcing data

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:02 AM

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libera if it suceeds, the future is grim

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:02 AM

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This has nothing to do with your trendy Facebook hate, we're talking about email

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:P

proper dune Jul 1, 2019, 7:02 AM

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I dont hate facebook lol

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:02 AM

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Uhhuuuuuh

proper dune Jul 1, 2019, 7:03 AM

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I use Facebook daily and it's my main method of communication 🤔

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It's also where the best memes are

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Especially niche ones

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:03 AM

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if libera gets the exponential growth fb had, and the domain/field domination that fb had, the future will be really grim

swift phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 7:03 AM

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yes!

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:04 AM

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niche memes... on facebook 99% stolen from a niche subreddit

proper dune Jul 1, 2019, 7:04 AM

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bullshit

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:04 AM

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feeling nauseous just thinking about that future

proper dune Jul 1, 2019, 7:04 AM

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subreddits for niche memes are essentially non-existent

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:05 AM

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@proper dune but you must also hate it

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how many hours do you spend on Facebook?

proper dune Jul 1, 2019, 7:05 AM

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wayyyy too many

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:06 AM

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that's what billions of people do, some of them share so they can get dopamine when their creation is reconized (or money; depends on how big they are)

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the rest consume fresh memes daily

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serverd to maximize dopamine in their brains

proper dune Jul 1, 2019, 7:07 AM

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I mean, shouldn't ignore that Facebook is prime location for social circles in a significant percentage of the population in many places. The main instant messaging platform, the main platform for making groups, posting events and so on.

swift phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 7:07 AM

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I got so disgusted by FB and Twitter I deleted my account. Just hanging on matrix and discord these days

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:08 AM

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and also maximize session times so they can maximize ad impressions

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:08 AM

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i still likes the twatter, its good!

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:08 AM

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twitter is nice

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:08 AM

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facebook can die in a fire

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:08 AM

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they allow boobs

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:08 AM

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you know there are other sites for that eslam 😄

proper dune Jul 1, 2019, 7:09 AM

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I talk to all my friends on Facebook, I join group chats for the subjects I do, or group pages for the university, I tag people on niche memes on facebook, I mark myself as "going" on events for the computing society, and so on

viral parrot Jul 1, 2019, 7:09 AM

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damn. google have killed many things

proper dune Jul 1, 2019, 7:09 AM

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I have no idea why everyone hates on Facebook

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:09 AM

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yeah but it's nicer when it's forbidden

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:09 AM

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because its shit nix 😄

proper dune Jul 1, 2019, 7:09 AM

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The company sucks but if your facebook sucks it's because you've made it that way

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A social media is all about who you follow and connect with

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:09 AM

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mass herd hate is a real thing, most people hate on zuck without fully knowing who he is

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herd love is also a real thing (||keanu reeves||)

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:10 AM

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Hey back right up there!

swift phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 7:10 AM

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FB is basically a dopamine trap for them to gather and sell info about you

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:10 AM

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I knew it 😂

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:10 AM

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ive loved him since bill n teds 😄

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:10 AM

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since the matrix

proper dune Jul 1, 2019, 7:10 AM

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seriously though, Facebook is an absolute fucking goldmine with a LOT of very creative specific meme pages

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:11 AM

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bless neo

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:11 AM

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i had the video on tape for bill and teds, and the soundtrack

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me n my buddy skipped school to go buy it 😄

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:12 AM

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facebook is only good for one thing, if you leave the timeline and hop on the other side of the room

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facebook business manager

📎 unknown.png

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you become the advertiser and you hook people in instead of being hooked

proper dune Jul 1, 2019, 7:13 AM

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n i c h e m e m e s

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i have no idea where i'd get my dose of control theory memes if it weren't for facebook

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:13 AM

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e d g y t e e n s

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:14 AM

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I use it for keeping up with people and following cosplayers

proper dune Jul 1, 2019, 7:14 AM

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where else does one find this gold

📎 53621295_2041515796153885_8052323820343656448_n.png

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:14 AM

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s o c c e r m o m s

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:14 AM

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And my family uses it for keeping up with groups related to my sister's disability

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:15 AM

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if discord gets a group section with posts and comments

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bye fb for me

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:15 AM

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urgh god no

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:15 AM

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a topic section within the server; it'd be lit

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fb pages are getting practically zero reach because so many pages are trying to compete for people's timelines

proper dune Jul 1, 2019, 7:16 AM

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Breaking news: Discord now has stories

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:16 AM

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ok now that is an urgh god no

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:17 AM

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nobody has even said "Reddit" yet?

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:18 AM

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thats because reddit is awesome 😄

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:18 AM

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What does reddit have to offer for the normal person? Not much.

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:18 AM

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implying I'm not normal

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also, new pfp

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it's bad

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:18 AM

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free pizza
https://www.reddit.com/r/Random_Acts_Of_Pizza/

r/Random_Acts_Of_Pizza

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:18 AM

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It's the same one

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Without the border

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Yeah I know that sub

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:18 AM

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oh yeah reddit does free pizza

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:18 AM

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The point I'm making is that reddit has its own culture and norms

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And you need to learn those to do well

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:19 AM

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just lurk like a normal Redditor

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:19 AM

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Facebook is full of "normal people" that have their own norms, but those norms are mostly local so it all works

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:19 AM

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:O

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a bot that figures out what percentage of the users are lurking

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hmm

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that wouldn't work

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:20 AM

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reddit is basically a bunch of facebook g/r/oups?

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:20 AM

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It's not, though

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:20 AM

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but you can dislike

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downvote*

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:21 AM

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You have reddit gifts, you have cake days, and there's a lot of cross-sub behaviour

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:21 AM

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just don't say anything on Reddit about knives or potatoes and you'll be fine

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:21 AM

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I mean, lostredditors for example

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Almost every thread has a link to another subreddit

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:21 AM

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the gamification of reddit and imgur are strong

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:21 AM

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crossposting

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Reddit's crowning jewel

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or whatever

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:22 AM

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facebook started to gamifiy groups/pages as well with "top fan", "visual storyteller" badges etc

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:22 AM

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if you're not hitting 1 karma a second or more you've failed

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:23 AM

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Because reddit works in this way, with people linking between subreddits all the time, you can expect a certain set of norms and behaviours in each

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:23 AM

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you gotta build farms

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:23 AM

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That doesn't happen on Facebook

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:23 AM

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i find reddit's timeline to be nearly as addictive as facebook

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:23 AM

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Reddit has a habit of pushing out the crazies

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:23 AM

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reddit to be slighly higher iq

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:23 AM

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reddit's timeline?

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:23 AM

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reddit's frontpage/personal page

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:23 AM

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you mean just uhh

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hot?

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or was it best

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for some reason there's best and hot

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:23 AM

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reddit's multiverse timelines

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:24 AM

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idk the difference

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:24 AM

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hot is moving fast

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:24 AM

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Hot is what most people mean by that

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:24 AM

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the default is best

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I think best is personalised, maybe

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:24 AM

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there are actually things that'll confuse you

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:25 AM

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oh best probably prioritizes a little bit more time on it

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:25 AM

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top, best, hot

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which seem to mean the same thing

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:25 AM

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top is just hard by-upvotes

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:25 AM

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but top only cares about numbers

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yeah

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:25 AM

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hot and best are some formula of age and upvotes

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:25 AM

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exactly

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:26 AM

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reddit karma is where its at

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internet points ftw!

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:26 AM

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you too?

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are you shitting me reddit

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narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:26 AM

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what?

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that Reddit has ads?

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:26 AM

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its had ads for ages

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:26 AM

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ye

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:26 AM

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and you cant block them in the css else you get your sub banned 😄

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:27 AM

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wait for real? how is that even possible

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:27 AM

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Not a surprise really

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:27 AM

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I mean, fair enough

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:27 AM

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first ad i see is python

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👀 reddit be spyin'

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:27 AM

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however pihole works a treat!

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:27 AM

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pihole works on anything

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it controls the traffic boi

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:28 AM

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works on anything apart from my frikken router!

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:28 AM

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what's your router's model?

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:28 AM

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virgin media hub 3

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:28 AM

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wow

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:28 AM

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😂

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:29 AM

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some Wikipedia pages are a bit odd in how literal they are

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:29 AM

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imagine a carrot with 4 ethernet ports n wifi

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:29 AM

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the page for "book" says it's a stack of paper

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anyway, what about a novel where the world ends because someone h4xx0rs 8.8.8.8

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and 1.1.1.1

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and 4.4.4.4

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and the DNS that every ISP uses

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and the entire internet

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and the military

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:30 AM

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does pihole work with youtube ads?

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:30 AM

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okay now it's not sounding like a very good book

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ye

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:30 AM

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these youtubers insert 5 ads in a 30 second video

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:31 AM

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I just use u

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woha

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unsigned bool

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signed bool

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-true

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:31 AM

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like i am forced to use youtube premium because of all these ads

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:31 AM

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no

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you can just use any adblocker

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:31 AM

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the hell

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:31 AM

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unless you're on mobile

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:31 AM

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ublock origin

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:31 AM

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on phone

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:31 AM

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oh

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:31 AM

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okay, pihole then

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or one of those phone blockers...

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:31 AM

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does pihole block youtube adds?

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:31 AM

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pretty sure it does?

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hmm, seems like the domains keep changing and stuff

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:32 AM

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i made the premium purchase decision when i was falling asleep to an ASMR video

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half way through the video i hear

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:32 AM

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and it's often the same as the video is being played under

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damn YT actively trying to duke adblockers

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:32 AM

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PURPLE MATTERESS THE RAW EGG TEST

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:32 AM

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clever dogs

worldly grail Jul 1, 2019, 7:32 AM

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📎 Screenshot_2019-07-01-13-02-40-038_com.android.chrome.png

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:32 AM

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who puts a raw egg test in the middle of an asmr video

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:32 AM

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okay but mallory did that one

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have you seen the comments for that ad?

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everyone's on about how great an ad it is

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I wonder if it's just because it stars a Studio C member

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:34 AM

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youtube video ads are loud and annoying, audio level is off, the user experince is shit

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people are forced to use it because it's either that or facebook watch

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:34 AM

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okay but the raw egg test is all about how if your mattress is too soft it's no good and if it's too hard it's no good and if it's just right it's no good

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:34 AM

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The audio is actually not the fault of the advertisers

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:35 AM

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and you need to buy purple mattress

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:35 AM

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Most of the time, amateur videos have the volume too low

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Heck a lot of pro videos do

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:35 AM

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i make ads all the time and i make sure all of my ads start gentle so it doesn't shock or upset the viewer prompting them to skip early

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:35 AM

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Bon Appetit is infamous for it

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:35 AM

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I always have my volume on max and it's only just good enough

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:35 AM

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But a lot of ads are made by pros that are using the same standards they use for TV

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:36 AM

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yeah the unskippable ads from big corps are nice, i actually seek these out

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:37 AM

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I use an adblocker

viral parrot Jul 1, 2019, 7:37 AM

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lets keep the r-word out of discussions please.

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:37 AM

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this is a damn good ad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDMY_iBIQmU

YouTube

Amazon Echo

Bose and Alexa | Don't Miss a Thing: Bus Ride

Now Alexa can help you anywhere you go. Bose Quiet Comfort 35 Headphones II give you the voice control of Amazon Alexa, plus world-class noise cancellation a...

▶ Play video

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:37 AM

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I never get good ads

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Never have

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:37 AM

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watch this one trust me

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:38 AM

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I can't watch now

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Also yeah that's what they meant

viral parrot Jul 1, 2019, 7:38 AM

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yes

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:38 AM

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i can see how this can be insenstive to people with mental disorders i apologize

viral parrot Jul 1, 2019, 7:39 AM

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sure thing 😄 just keep it clean 😄

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that is the topic of this channel 😄

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:39 AM

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:D

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:39 AM

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I wonder how long they'll have to keep coming up with new scientific names

rough sapphire Jul 1, 2019, 7:39 AM

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whats the ad about

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:40 AM

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scientists are bad at naming things

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:40 AM

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my gf said to me the other day, your audio on your twitch is way too loud

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i was like nope, everyone elses that you watch isnt right

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:40 AM

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about noise canceling headphones, it's the best one i like

rough sapphire Jul 1, 2019, 7:40 AM

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and a patridge in a pear tree

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(rhymes with "my gf said to me" )

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:41 AM

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so i loaded up a "professional stream" think it was riots stream for a league of legends match

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the audio was on the same level as mine

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i proved my point

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:41 AM

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i think the word loud is relative

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:42 AM

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its like this is what it "should" sound like when they have sound engineers etc

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:42 AM

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they need to come up with pepEar or something with sound db convention*

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:43 AM

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Ohhhhh

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idea for a website

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it checks your sound levels for you

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buy capturing clips from a twitch stream

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so it does a background music check, and then a mic check

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hrrrrrmmm

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twitchdecibel.com!

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:44 AM

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mouthful :D

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:45 AM

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twitchdb is already taken 😄

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:45 AM

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twitchdb.io is available

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.com is overrated xD

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 7:45 AM

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im oldschool!

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you kids with your funky domain extensions

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(although i do like .dev domains)

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:46 AM

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please

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i have all the .coms in the world 😂

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i wrote this a while ago

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def domain_generator(_list, min_items=1, max_items=1, max_letter_count=0, prefix='', suffix='.com',
                     pause_prints_threshold=4995):
    """
    :param _list:
    :param min_items: Minimum amount of list items to be combined in a domain.
    :param max_items: Maximum amount of list items to be combined in a domain.
    :param max_letter_count: Only print domains that are shorter than X in length, use it to filter long domains.
    :param prefix: Start of the domain
    :param suffix: End of the domain, using this will replace the default '.com'
    :param pause_prints_threshold: Pauses printing every X lines to give you a chance to copy paste.
    :return: Yields generated domains live.
    """
    total_results = sum(len(_list) ** num for num in range(min_items, max_items + 1))
    reset_counter, keep_counter = 0, 0
    for num in range(min_items, max_items + 1):
        results = product(_list, repeat=num)
        for result in results:
            string = ''
            for item in result:
                string += str(item)
            result = f'{prefix}{string}{suffix}'
            if len(result) <= max_letter_count or len(result) and not max_letter_count:
                yield (result)
                reset_counter += 1
                keep_counter += 1
            if reset_counter >= pause_prints_threshold:
                input(f'\nTotal Domains: {keep_counter} / {total_results}')
                reset_counter = 0
    if max_letter_count and keep_counter and keep_counter != total_results:
        yield ('\nNot all results were printed due to your max letter restrictions.')
    elif max_letter_count and not keep_counter:
        yield (
            '\nNothing was printed because your max letter restrictions are too low, it counts prefix and suffix too.')

proper dune Jul 1, 2019, 7:47 AM

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I got rag.gy a while ago and people love it

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no regrets

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:48 AM

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this will mix all possible list combinations to create a domain and yield 5000 domains at a time so you can check them in bulk with api or at https://www.namebright.com/BulkSearch.aspx

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:51 AM

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We might lose .io soon anyway

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Best not to make new .io domains

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:53 AM

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what are all the .io games going to do, anyway?

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Move to some other domain

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Of course

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:55 AM

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will they rename asyncio :'D

narrow comet Jul 1, 2019, 7:56 AM

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why is async.io some crap about some dude

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 7:57 AM

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still better than a domain squatter

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to buy this domain for {{ insert an abusrd amount }}

torn ridge Jul 1, 2019, 8:03 AM

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http://doueven.dev though?

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 9:19 AM

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Hat in time still has the best soundtrack, jeez

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I still can't stop listening to it

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https://youtu.be/fAOn6xZy3FE

YouTube

Gears for Breakfast

A Hat in Time OST [Seal the Deal] - Collapsing Time Rift

A HAT IN TIME, the new SEAL THE DEAL DLC & the OST are now available!: https://store.steampowered.com/app/253230/A_Hat_in_Time/ h-h-h-hurry up

▶ Play video

patent ferry Jul 1, 2019, 9:54 AM

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@sand goblet there supposed to be a ring around your pfp.. lol

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 10:03 AM

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@patent ferry I mean, it's my profile

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I had it there for pride month

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I'm not LGBT myself but it was my way of showing support for the month

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 10:12 AM

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@sand goblet that song is hot

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 10:12 AM

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This game has such a good soundtrack

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Tbh it's a great game in almost all ways

tight fractal Jul 1, 2019, 10:14 AM

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I am adding the game to wishlist

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I love games with good music and visuals

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Is this platform?

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For some reason it reminds me of https://open.spotify.com/track/1WyGfZTQrH3BeDACFZ87DU?si=4B5G3JWkSx6qx1eg2-hS4g

Spotify

Plan of Attack

Plan of Attack, a song by OllAxe on Spotify

patent ferry Jul 1, 2019, 11:06 AM

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@sand goblet lol.. ok

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:28 PM

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heyere

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:29 PM

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So odds are good that you won't frag your computer unless you intentionally do it

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:29 PM

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I would recommend learning C++ because you will learn C in the meantime

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Worst you'll have is a program crash

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:29 PM

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oh, good

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:29 PM

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You can't possibly damage your PC with C++

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Where as I'd argue going with C first so that the building blocks are more clear

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But it really depends on your goal

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:30 PM

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mostly, my goal is to learn the basics and maybe get onto cybersec in the future

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where c could be really useful

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:30 PM

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If you're doing this for the sake of learning and understanding programming a lot more, then C. If you're working towards and end goal of making something sooner rather than later, C++ or any of the higher level languages would be a better choice

#

So C would be a strong choice in your case, then

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:30 PM

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huh, nice
thanks for helping then

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Something to note, C hasn't changed a lot over the years

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So most literature out there will still be relevant

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Since C99

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:31 PM

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There's some really good books out there

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:31 PM

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I think?

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:31 PM

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i mean, C is the second most used language in the world :p

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:31 PM

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That sounds right

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Or it was C11 the last standard?

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:31 PM

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so i guess it'll stay revelant on all the times

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:31 PM

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C11 might be the latest but C99 is the most comprehensive

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:31 PM

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since people gotta code things that have stuff to do with lower level

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:32 PM

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So you're still probably solid no matter the book, especially for learning purposes

#

Absolutely

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And it's much cleaner than dealing with straight assembly

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:32 PM

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C18 is the current one

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Oh huh

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Shows how much I pay attention

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:32 PM

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What

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:32 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C18_(C_standard_revision)

C18 (C standard revision)

C18 is the informal name for ISO/IEC 9899:2018, the most recent standard for the C programming language, published in June 2018. It replaced C11 (standard ISO/IEC 9899:2011). It has been informally named as C17 too.
GCC 8.1.0 and LLVM Clang 7.0.0 support C18.
C18 will be sup...

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Still, any book should be fine for beginner stuff

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Only worry about getting the most up to date stuff if you know you'll need it

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:33 PM

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well, it's not like i'm gonna code drivers or anything

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:33 PM

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Otherwise, this is a great learning exercise in learning how most code out there ticks on the most bare levels

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:33 PM

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C11 has quite a lot of extra stuff above C99

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:33 PM

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i'm just quite interested and programming area is fun for me

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and knowing the basics of it will be really much of an advantage i guess

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:33 PM

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I wonder...

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2 seconds, let me see if I can find the book I got

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:34 PM

#

an important thing to note is that
C99 is POSIX-compliant and C11 isn't

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so POSIX-compliant stuff will be at most C99

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:34 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Sams-Teach-Yourself-Programming-Hour/dp/0789751992/ref=asc_df_0789751992/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312118197030&hvpos=1o3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12327641308284210971&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9023810&hvtargid=aud-643574997066:pla-578147201247&psc=1 Ignore the awful size of the link

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:34 PM

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having said that there is load of support for C11 these days in general

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:34 PM

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But I THINK this is the one I got?

#

I was enjoying it while I was doing it, but I got distracted from it, too much going on in my life at that time

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:35 PM

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thank you a lot!

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:36 PM

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in time it goes
K&R C -> ANSI C -> C89 -> C99 -> C11 -> C18

#

further back you go the more systems will support it

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:36 PM

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ANSI C is typically the farthest back people would want to go, though

#

And even that's a stretch

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:37 PM

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there's a lot of old systems out there

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:37 PM

#

could https://www.learn-c.org/ course be good though?

Learn C - Free Interactive C Tutorial

#

i mean, it's free and interactive

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:37 PM

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I honestly don't know. Looks fine. Python is more my jam. Other than the book I got, I don't have much experience with C

#

I'm just a hobbyist

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:38 PM

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i'm a hobbyist too, but man, i'd really love to get into cybersec since it sounds so much fun
and ctfs that i've seen so far were a lot of fun to solve

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:38 PM

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some digital signal processing stuff is still in ANSI C

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:38 PM

#

like overthewire

#

https://overthewire.org/wargames/

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:39 PM

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I don't doubt it, but I'm more speaking in general terms

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:39 PM

#

what's rly suprising is that
apparently Visual Studio still isn't 100% C99-compliant

#

some redditors say to use C89 in windows cos of this 😄

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Huh

#

Makes me wonder if CLion is up to date with compliance

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:40 PM

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not sure

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:40 PM

#

though, even with C's popularity, seems like C++ is more used for general modern stuff

#

like browsers, games, etc

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:41 PM

#

anyway GNU Coreutils are all C89 also
the long and short of it is that its worth knowing like 5 C versions lol

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:41 PM

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Right tool for the right job

#

For those applications you can usually fudge some of it, so C++ is fine

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:41 PM

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~~and most of the cool things using exploits is written with ++ but not C~~

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:41 PM

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But for things that need absolute precision, C is what is needed

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:42 PM

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but i probably should get onto C first before C++, i'm sure somehow that C++ will be much easier after C

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:42 PM

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Not easier, just different

#

But having C under your belt will make your understanding of C++ that much easier

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:42 PM

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really depends on what you are doing
I do Qt stuff in C++
and knowing C really wouldn't help you for that

#

but Qt C++ is kinda different to normal C++ anyway

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:42 PM

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But for general computer knowledge stuff

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:43 PM

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... i'm kinda confused what should i do, so i guess i'll just flip the random.org
1 = cpp and 2 = c

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:43 PM

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I mean I guess I'm the wrong person to talk about all of this, the first language I learned was like... an old version of VB

#

Followed by a more thorough learning of Java

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:43 PM

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... oh well

📎 unknown.png

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:43 PM

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VB.NET is as capable as C# for .NET stuff

#

so it has its place

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:44 PM

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Right but this was.... not the useful VB

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:44 PM

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microsoft were careful to not make is a second-class citizen for .NET

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:44 PM

#

my first programming language probably was some kind of code simulator where you solved puzzles by coding the solution on very simplified language

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:44 PM

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Oh well if we really want to get down to brass tacks my first language was TI-Basic on my scientific calculator

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:45 PM

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thing about C++ as well is that
if you look at the sources of big C++ projects
they almost always have some C in the codebase

winged willow Jul 1, 2019, 3:45 PM

#

A

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:45 PM

#

B

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:45 PM

#

C

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:45 PM

#

++

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:45 PM

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I'm not entirely sure why
but there's usually at least a bit of C mixed in with the C++

winged willow Jul 1, 2019, 3:45 PM

#

abc(d) = e

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:46 PM

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Typically for the more fiddly bits

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:46 PM

#

@wet steppe i guess that's for where it needs more system and low level management?

winged willow Jul 1, 2019, 3:46 PM

#

for i in alphabet:
Print(i)

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:46 PM

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print

#

not Print

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:46 PM

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not sure

winged willow Jul 1, 2019, 3:46 PM

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Sorry

#

Sorry

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:47 PM

#

compilator gives 0/10 to this code

#

ok, now that's good

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:47 PM

#

Also entirely possible that they're using the C for C libraries that already exist that don't in C++

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:47 PM

#

WTF apparently even GCC and Clang don't have full C99 support 😄

#

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C99#Implementations

C99

C99 (previously known as C9X) is an informal name for ISO/IEC 9899:1999, a past version of the C programming language standard. It extends the previous version (C90) with new features for the language and the standard library, and helps implementations make better use of avai...

#

they only got full support for C89 lmao

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:48 PM

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C89 is probably the most portable one

winged willow Jul 1, 2019, 3:48 PM

#

Hey

#

How which is best library for GUI

#

In python

#

??

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:48 PM

#

its actually bizarre how bad support for C99+ is

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Matter of preference, really

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Pyside2

plucky ridge Jul 1, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Yeah, that's what I typically suggest

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:49 PM

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pyside2, glooey

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:49 PM

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https://wiki.qt.io/Qt_for_Python

winged willow Jul 1, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Pyside2 for GUI

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:49 PM

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qt for python is not entirely nice

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Qt_for_Python is Pyside 2

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Vulkan python bindings

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:49 PM

#

Vulkan python bindings yes

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:49 PM

#

yoj

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:49 PM

#

nice

#

just write pure vulkan boys

#

😎

winged willow Jul 1, 2019, 3:49 PM

#

I want GUI just like CSS have

#

And html also

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:50 PM

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magic wand

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:50 PM

#

oh well you can literally use CSS if you want

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:50 PM

#

no offense just i love laughing out grammatical mistakes

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:50 PM

#

probably you want something like electron, but in python?

winged willow Jul 1, 2019, 3:50 PM

#

How

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:50 PM

#

https://github.com/keybraker/Python-GUI-with-electron

GitHub

keybraker/Python-GUI-with-electron

A simple example on how to create electron GUIs for python programs - keybraker/Python-GUI-with-electron

winged willow Jul 1, 2019, 3:50 PM

#

?

#

Thanx

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:50 PM

#

there are other guides

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:50 PM

#

I didn't know electron supported python

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:50 PM

#

if you search on either "python electron" or "python webview"

#

its python, most stuff is supported 😃

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:51 PM

#

honestly i love python

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:51 PM

#

ecosystem size and level of support is bascially only reason I like python LOL

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:51 PM

#

just if it has more low level capabilities and interaction with win api

#

:((((

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:51 PM

#

yeah ur describing C#

#

my preferred language 😃

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:51 PM

#

but that's not python

stark prawn Jul 1, 2019, 3:52 PM

#

C# is too platform dependant.

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:52 PM

#

well there used to be Ironpython that ran on .NET

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:52 PM

#

c# is java

#

not python

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:52 PM

#

c# is java
👀

stark prawn Jul 1, 2019, 3:52 PM

#

that's an insult to java.

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:52 PM

#

but i mean

#

just compare them

#

both are forced oop, just c# got some stuff like delegates

#

but syntax is really similiar

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:53 PM

#

That's an insult for c# and java @stark prawn

#

I hate both so finger_gun

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:54 PM

#

C# and Java syntax is super different

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:54 PM

#

Conceptually it's really similar

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 3:55 PM

#

They are pretty similar c# and java

#

He said syntax not the languages themselves >:D

#

Seeing c# was basically a syntaxical clone of java originally

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:55 PM

#

Yeah

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:55 PM

#

👀

stark prawn Jul 1, 2019, 3:55 PM

#

Super similar yet you can immediatly tell them apart.

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:55 PM

#

I get what you are saying yeah

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:55 PM

#

public class HelloWorld {
2
 
3
    public static void main(String[] args) {
4
        System.out.println("Hello world!");
5
    }
6
}

using System;
02
using System.Collections.Generic;
03
using System.Linq;
04
using System.Text;
05
 
06
namespace ConsoleApplication1
07
{
08
    class Program
09
    {
10
        static void Main(string[] args)
11
        {
12
            //Output text to the screen.
13
            Console.WriteLine("Hello world!");
14
            Console.ReadKey();
15
        }
16
    }

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:55 PM

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@twilit marlinbad

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:55 PM

#

bad]

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:56 PM

#

c# has a bit more lines

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Ew, using

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:56 PM

#

but the idea is almost identical

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 3:56 PM

#

big thinking

stark prawn Jul 1, 2019, 3:56 PM

#

Can you do this in c#?

for( Tree tree: trees){```

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Java and C# where 95% same but have done their ways a little

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Can you put a function in a namespace?

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 3:56 PM

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I think that is foreach(Tree trees) {

stark prawn Jul 1, 2019, 3:57 PM

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The class itself is the namespace.

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 3:57 PM

#

Yep

#

Everything is an object

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:57 PM

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No, a class is a type a namespace is a namespace

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 3:57 PM

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Shh

#

Namespaces are fancy words for scopes

#

[how to start a flame war 101]

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:58 PM

#

what did we talk about even

#

anyway, yeah, random.org said i should learn c

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 3:58 PM

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Does the static keyword have a lot of unrelated meanings?

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 3:58 PM

#

rip

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Dude I can't stand this much programming in 1 day

#

Head is swirling

stark prawn Jul 1, 2019, 3:59 PM

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A static method is one that you can call on the class instead of an instance.

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 3:59 PM

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I made a for loop adding to a tally instead of timising the values

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 4:00 PM

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hmm

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:00 PM

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@vestal briar you seem to be an experienced person!

#

++ or C should I learn?

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random said C

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:00 PM

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Depends

#

C is faster to learn

#

C++ is used more in open source and modern

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:01 PM

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yeah but i wanna get into cybersec because it's fun

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 4:01 PM

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both

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:01 PM

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C can do programming languages better

#

C can do linux kernel

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:01 PM

#

and i probably need c++ or c there

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:01 PM

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C++ can do graphical

stark prawn Jul 1, 2019, 4:01 PM

#

C can do graphical.

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:01 PM

#

Cybersec uses both

#

Yep

stark prawn Jul 1, 2019, 4:01 PM

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I mean it has curses.

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:01 PM

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But not oop

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:02 PM

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i should learn both? 🤔

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:02 PM

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So it is pretty ugly

#

Learn C++

#

Then do C

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 4:02 PM

#

C first

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:02 PM

#

That's the generally preffered way

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 4:02 PM

#

static struct MyStruct {
    static void fun() {
        static int tmp;
    }
} obj;

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:02 PM

#

I'M CONFUSED

#

@grave phoenix void fun

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:02 PM

#

2 ways to approch

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:02 PM

#

v o i d

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 4:02 PM

#

you could get okay at C89 in like a week
then move on

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:03 PM

#

C then C++ is a smaller learning curve but can give bad practises
C++ then C is harder but better pracises

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 4:03 PM

#

modern C++ is gonna take like
10 times longer to learn than C89
so doing C89 first kind makes sense to me

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 4:03 PM

#

That's basically static used in three different ways

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:03 PM

#

I got C basics confident in 2 weeks

#

I can do C if I am forced to

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:03 PM

#

i mean c probably can do windows api so

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:03 PM

#

Not any good but I can

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 4:03 PM

#

you could do a mixture like
do a month of C++
then do C89
then go back to C++

#

like a C-sandwich 😄

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:04 PM

#

candwich

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:04 PM

#

K&R C is the best and if you dont use it you are walking shit

#

:D

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 4:04 PM

#

👀

stark prawn Jul 1, 2019, 4:04 PM

#

Never walk shit.

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:04 PM

#

I don't like K&R

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 4:04 PM

#

Who uses C anyways? Long live assembly

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:04 PM

#

Python is C

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 4:04 PM

#

C is pretty close to ASM

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:04 PM

#

what's k&r

stark prawn Jul 1, 2019, 4:04 PM

#

Long live x86 assembly.

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:04 PM

#

The original implementation of c

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 4:04 PM

#

K&R is two people

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:05 PM

#

Also a book

#

Also 2 people

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 4:05 PM

#

but named after them is a book
and an implementation of C

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:05 PM

#

If you say K&R C it is the C implamentation

#

K&R book is the book

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 4:05 PM

#

K&R bois is the people

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:05 PM

#

O NO

#

MY DOGGO IS SAD

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:05 PM

#

Not sure for names if you should use long or just K&R

#

Uh what

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:06 PM

#

he started to whine loudly and then ran to me

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 4:06 PM

#

His doggo sad

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:06 PM

#

now i have him on my hands trying to calm him down

#

aww

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:06 PM

#

SORRY COME AGAIN

#

Poor doggo

#

Is he hurt

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:06 PM

#

he's not hurt

#

it's just that my parents are gone and i didn't "talk" to him for a few hours

#

seems like he's just desperate for attention

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:07 PM

#

Make sure his paws are ok, didn't step o-.. ah

#

o--o <-- Huh it is a car chassis

#

.<>.
o--o

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:08 PM

#

no, that's a dumbbell

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:08 PM

#

No it is a pair of glasses

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:08 PM

#

JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:09 PM

#

No it is a pair of handcuffs

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:09 PM

#

it's a bicycle without a seat

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:09 PM

#

No it's 1 out of 114 parts of @tired osprey 's package

winged willow Jul 1, 2019, 4:09 PM

#

Hola

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:09 PM

#

What is no in spanish

winged willow Jul 1, 2019, 4:10 PM

#

Now i am new in python

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:10 PM

#

Oh that has no context behind it

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 4:10 PM

#

Hola

winged willow Jul 1, 2019, 4:10 PM

#

And i want some help

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:10 PM

#

Wow my timing today is awful

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:10 PM

#

go to #help-coconut

winged willow Jul 1, 2019, 4:10 PM

#

Okey

#

There is no one on #help-coconut

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 4:12 PM

#

No, just ask your question

#

Someone will be along to answer it when they can

winged willow Jul 1, 2019, 4:12 PM

#

Oookey

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:21 PM

#

Fuck me

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 4:21 PM

#

Okey dokey

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:21 PM

#

Someone gave a negitive ebay review after I told them exactly what happened

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 4:21 PM

#

GWahreeVampySmug

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:22 PM

#

Refunded without explanation, waste of time

#

Really dude

tired osprey Jul 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

#

@vestal briar whar

#

What

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

#

What part

tired osprey Jul 1, 2019, 4:31 PM

#

Everything in your ping

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:31 PM

#

Yes

tired osprey Jul 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

#

Yes what

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

#

Just yes

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

#

Nix: "why did you ping me"
scOwez: "yes"

tired osprey Jul 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

#

exactly

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

#

Yes

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 4:37 PM

#

Maybe

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 5:10 PM

#

welp
so far C looks quite nice

tulip palm Jul 1, 2019, 5:38 PM

#

it only looks nice until it doesn't

#

but keep going, maybe you'll keep liking it :D

grave phoenix Jul 1, 2019, 5:47 PM

#

:D

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 6:02 PM

#

Dudes false hope won't help

#

I.. i.. mean: :D :D :D :D

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 6:20 PM

#

anyone know how to fix this error? trying to play gamecubes via dolphin emu, dual booting linux mint and windows 10 and this error only happens in mint

📎 Screenshot_from_2019-07-01_11-18-30.png

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 6:20 PM

#

just ignore for this session

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 6:20 PM

#

it crashes

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 6:20 PM

#

because you don't have GPU that supports vulkan API as it seems

#

i dunno then, didn't really use dolphin

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 6:21 PM

#

oof

#

my apu is AMD A6-7310

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 6:23 PM

#

a6 seems to be cpu

#

can you send your gpu?

#

graphics card

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 6:27 PM

#

im still new to linux whats the command for that

twilit marlin Jul 1, 2019, 6:28 PM

#

dunno, i don't use linux

#

glxinfo

#

try this one

lone otter Jul 1, 2019, 6:29 PM

#

lspci | grep VGA

#

Also, if your GPU supports Vulkan you're probably missing the vulkan loader for your distro

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 6:31 PM

#

00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon R4/R5 Graphics] (rev 40)```

#

could it be this? http://moutjs.com/

mout : Modular JavaScript Utilities

mout is a collection of modular JavaScript utilities that can be used in the browser as AMD modules or on node.js (without any overhead). It provides many helper methods similar to those found on other languages standard libraries (ie. Python, Ruby, PHP)

#

I know it supports vulken bc it works in windows

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 6:55 PM

#

hey so i found what I need but there are so may dependents is there a command i can run or do I have to install them all one at a time? @lone otter

lone otter Jul 1, 2019, 6:56 PM

#

If you're referring to apt install, you can just add more arguments as necessary

#

like sudo apt install lolcat cowsay fortunes-bofh-archives

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 6:57 PM

#

this

#

I do several at once

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 6:57 PM

#

I am sure you do

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 6:57 PM

#

I dont think you understand my question https://packages.ubuntu.com has the packegs do i just do sudo apt install (site download url)

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

Nah just the name

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

also check out the options like -d and -f

#

https://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get

apt-get(8) - Linux man page

apt-get is the command-line tool for handling packages, and may be considered the user's "back-end" to other tools using the APT library.

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

okay thanks

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

terning6 What is that

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 6:59 PM

#

intresting

tired osprey Jul 1, 2019, 6:59 PM

#

terni 6 obviously

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 6:59 PM

#

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
libvulkan1 is already the newest version (1.1.108.0~rc1-1lunarg18.04.1.1).
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  idle idle-python3.6 libllvm7 libllvm7:i386 libpython3.7-minimal
  libpython3.7-stdlib libsoil1 libwxbase3.0-0v5 libwxgtk3.0-0v5 python3.7
  python3.7-minimal
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.```

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 6:59 PM

#

?

tired osprey Jul 1, 2019, 6:59 PM

#

terningkast is a joke evaluation system from norway

#

you could ping lemon if you wanted to know about it

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

i wonder why its not working

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

Very common knowlage

#

@foggy lichen It's already installed is it not?

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

when i google terningkast it lets me roll a dice?

tired osprey Jul 1, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

yes

#

that is the joke

#

you evaluate by rolling a dice

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

??

tired osprey Jul 1, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

i didnt make this up

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

terning6

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

Uh hu bisk

tired osprey Jul 1, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

i even made a flake8 pluging

#

which gives you a terningkast

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

wow nice

tired osprey Jul 1, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

https://github.com/hargoniX/flake8-terningkast

GitHub

hargoniX/flake8-terningkast

Contribute to hargoniX/flake8-terningkast development by creating an account on GitHub.

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

terningkast = roll the dice?

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

nice github btw

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

hey guys

#

any other suggestions

tired osprey Jul 1, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

thanks

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

https://gitlab.com/scowez 😎

GitLab

scOwez

Young C & Python developer. Owner of Scalist.net & Jilk.pw. Fan of web development, system & dev-ops.

tired osprey Jul 1, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

which reminds me

#

i gotta sniff archive stm32h7x3-hal sniff

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

My GitHub looks horrible

lone otter Jul 1, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

@foggy lichen Install vulkan-tools

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

https://i.imgur.com/XRExjhB.png

Imgur

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

Yes

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

dat swimming pool wall tile

lone otter Jul 1, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

Then you'll be able to run vulkaninfo to double check if vulkan's set up properly

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

It counts commits

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

#

reeeeeeeee

wet steppe Jul 1, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

it counts how many times u swam

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

Ok

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 7:04 PM

#

       VULKANINFO
        ==========

Vulkan Instance Version: 1.1.108

/build/vulkan-tools-1.1.108.0~rc1/vulkaninfo/vulkaninfo.c:5586: failed with VK_ERROR_INITIALIZATION_FAILED```

#

this means lmao

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 7:06 PM

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

Failed to start I guess

#

[nix has left the chat]

lone otter Jul 1, 2019, 7:07 PM

#

hmm

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 7:07 PM

#

https://community.amd.com/thread/210474

VK_ERROR_INITIALIZATION_FAILED | Community

System info: CPU: i5-4690k GPU: Powercolor RX 480 8GB Reference Mobo: ASRock H97M Anniversary PSU: XFX TS 550W Ram: Team Elite 8GB DDR3-1600 HD: Western

lone otter Jul 1, 2019, 7:07 PM

#

I noticed that you've got an integrated GPU as well as a dedicated GPU

#

Maybe your iGPU is currently in command, and it doesn't support vulkan?

#

What does glxinfo|egrep "OpenGL vendor|OpenGL renderer" give you

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 7:10 PM

#

it suppots vulkin it says on there offical site AMD A4/A6/A8/A10-7000 Series APUs AMD A6/A8/A10 PRO-7000 Series APUs AMD A6/A8/A10/FX™ 8000 Series APUs

#

vulken works in windos

tired osprey Jul 1, 2019, 7:13 PM

#

@vestal briar no Owen

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 7:15 PM

#

OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: AMD KABINI (DRM 2.50.0, 4.15.0-20-generic, LLVM 8.0.0)
@lone otter

lone otter Jul 1, 2019, 7:18 PM

#

looks like it's not using your dGPU

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 7:20 PM

#

huh okay

#

enable command?

#

00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Mullins [Radeon R4/R5 Graphics] (rev 40)
    Subsystem: Lenovo Mullins [Radeon R4/R5 Graphics]
    Kernel driver in use: radeon

#

@lone otter

lone otter Jul 1, 2019, 7:40 PM

#

iunno

#

There's probably some frontend for it in mint settings

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 8:03 PM

#

hey do you know how to install drivers on linux I found AMD Catalyst Graphics Driver for Linux downloading it gives me a zip and inside a .run file @lone otter

lone otter Jul 1, 2019, 8:05 PM

#

./*.run?

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 8:17 PM

#

This is not the way to install graphics drivers

#

Use your package manager

#

Google the documentation for your distro

#

Manually installing kernel modules is likely to break your system

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 8:50 PM

#

it did

#

im in windows rn

#

how can I fix my linux system? I installed Ext2Fsd to mount the linux system @sand goblet

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 8:56 PM

#

if you broke your kernel, you won't be fixing anything from windows

#

you need to either reinstall, or boot into a live linux usb or something and chroot in, remove the driver

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 8:57 PM

#

okay well I have a bootable usb

#

where will the driver be located?

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 8:59 PM

#

I have no idea

#

a reinstall may be easier

#

but it's up to you

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 9:00 PM

#

okay I will do that, lucky Ext2Fsd let me pull my data

sand goblet Jul 1, 2019, 11:01 PM

#

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/07/01/facebook_sarin_scare/

Facebook staff sarin for a bad day: Suspected chemical weapon parc...

Postal package triggered test equipment, buildings evacuated, no one exposed

vestal briar Jul 1, 2019, 11:07 PM

#

Holy shit

#

Facebook hid a shit ton of loggers in a vpn app

#

And bypassed apple for data mining shit

#

Good on apple for holding their integrity here

#

Also because they where most likely legally required to

foggy lichen Jul 1, 2019, 11:57 PM

#

Facebook reminds me of Christian Mingle: Only idiots use it

tulip palm Jul 2, 2019, 12:27 AM

#

i mean, i use neither of those but that's still quite an unnecessary comment to make, don't you think? :D

foggy lichen Jul 2, 2019, 1:05 AM

#

dark humor is like food

#

not everyone gets it

tulip palm Jul 2, 2019, 2:45 AM

#

can you please like, not say stuff like that?

zinc sail Jul 2, 2019, 2:48 AM

#

Being a dick isn’t dark humor

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 2:50 AM

#

yes, it's

narrow comet Jul 2, 2019, 3:13 AM

#

not sure if that was even dark humour

#

@rough sapphire yes, it's what?

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 3:16 AM

#

nothing

narrow comet Jul 2, 2019, 3:17 AM

#

eh?

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 3:17 AM

#

i was saying that making dark humor is being a dick to someone

narrow comet Jul 2, 2019, 3:17 AM

#

(you can't say "it's" without something afterwards)

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 3:20 AM

#

interesting. ok then

bronze shuttle Jul 2, 2019, 4:11 AM

#

it would make sense with out the contraction "yes it is"

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 4:26 AM

#

@foggy lichen That's highly offensive and I'd appreciate it if you didn't.

narrow comet Jul 2, 2019, 4:29 AM

#

is it even a joke?

#

I'm still trying to find the bit where it's a joke

#

it's just a statement

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 5:11 AM

#

how about.. that it be..

patent ferry Jul 2, 2019, 6:53 AM

#

wow the server pic is changed

hollow leaf Jul 2, 2019, 6:59 AM

#

Enki...FreeBSD eh... 😄

gentle moss Jul 2, 2019, 8:20 AM

#

man @sand goblet

#

you ever think theregister take the headlines a bit too far?

#

rofl

sand goblet Jul 2, 2019, 8:36 AM

#

No :P

gentle moss Jul 2, 2019, 8:43 AM

#

SARIN for a bad day

#

cmon

#

i chuckled but then went "ooooh...."

sand goblet Jul 2, 2019, 8:46 AM

#

Tbh I don't get it

#

Oh, right

#

Nah, what's wrong with that :P

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 8:49 AM

#

quick question

sand goblet Jul 2, 2019, 8:49 AM

#

Quick answer

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 8:50 AM

#

you guys know in time series predictions.. we predict a stock price for a certain date or something

#

what is the concept called, when you're trying to predict a date

#

(i'm trying to plot a project timeline, and lag time between expected date and actual date) need to look up some example plots.. it would help if I knew what it was called

vestal briar Jul 2, 2019, 8:56 AM

#

Tron

#

It's basically what we are doing with our code jam

#

Apart from predictiks cureently

#

Nwvermind the whole thing I read it wrong

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 8:57 AM

#

could you tell me more..

#

I'm not predicting anything..

vestal briar Jul 2, 2019, 8:57 AM

#

Oh

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 8:57 AM

#

I have two datetime columns.. each row corresponds to a task in a project

vestal briar Jul 2, 2019, 8:57 AM

#

We are using machine learbing to interpolate plots from a dataset and make an efficient mathematical function out of it

#

We have datetime and a float

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 8:58 AM

#

interpolate plots?

#

what dataset is it

vestal briar Jul 2, 2019, 8:58 AM

#

Sort of but with machine learning

#

Global median water level

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 8:59 AM

#

what are the columns

vestal briar Jul 2, 2019, 8:59 AM

#

Id primary key just so no conflucts

#

Datetime that could be used as primary key easily

#

And a float that slowly goes up positively because sea level rise

#

We where using interpolation but our maths dude thought it'd be better with machine learning

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 9:01 AM

#

ok, so sea level is correlated with something.. and also has a datetime column.. you're trying to make a function that correlates datetime and sea level

#

is that right?

vestal briar Jul 2, 2019, 9:01 AM

#

Yep

#

Then it gives the different of the float by calculating the floats

#

Then a rest api surrounding it with a whole ecosystem

gentle moss Jul 2, 2019, 9:03 AM

#

you mean options @rough sapphire ?

#

stock options?

vestal briar Jul 2, 2019, 9:03 AM

#

https://github.com/scOwez/code-jam-5

GitHub

scOwez/code-jam-5

Python Discord's 5th code jam. Contribute to scOwez/code-jam-5 development by creating an account on GitHub.

#

Documentation: https://github.com/scOwez/code-jam-5/tree/master/practical_porcupines#practical-porcupines-documentation

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 9:05 AM

#

cool cool

#

@gentle moss no.. i'm not trying to predict stock prices or anything..

#

the thing is, people usually plot that in time series plots - they predict a variable based on past events/trends

#

but I'm trying to visualize lag times between when a project's task was predicted to complete, versus when it actually completed

gentle moss Jul 2, 2019, 9:09 AM

#

like a delta?

#

time delta?

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 9:12 AM

#

let me check

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 9:29 AM

#

that works for me.. but I guess I have to make my own custom plot

#

gonna use d3js in python

gentle moss Jul 2, 2019, 9:30 AM

#

nice, i got something right \o/

narrow comet Jul 2, 2019, 9:41 AM

#

today on Lyric can't design languages

#

@.print (@.add (@.int (@.input "")) (@.int (@.input "")))

#

are we having fun yet

vestal briar Jul 2, 2019, 10:01 AM

#

Argh

#

Should I learn pygame, tensor flow or language design

#

I keep asking myself this

#

I think I am choosing between pygame and language

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 10:02 AM

#

@narrow comet that's lisp.. welcome to hell

#

although there's no dot notation or @ that im aware of

narrow comet Jul 2, 2019, 10:03 AM

#

yeah that's the crap part

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 10:03 AM

#

input "" describes a string input .. but the input itself is not a keyword.. the "" part signifies the string input

narrow comet Jul 2, 2019, 10:03 AM

#

eh?

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 10:03 AM

#

yep

narrow comet Jul 2, 2019, 10:03 AM

#

are you talking about lisp

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 10:03 AM

#

yeah

narrow comet Jul 2, 2019, 10:04 AM

#

wouldn't (input "") just call the function input

#

with ""

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 10:04 AM

#

something like that

narrow comet Jul 2, 2019, 10:04 AM

#

do you know Lisp

rough sapphire Jul 2, 2019, 10:05 AM

#

a little bit

#

we use it for our files

vestal briar Jul 2, 2019, 1:42 PM

#

@narrow comet What where the @. for? stdlib?

narrow comet Jul 2, 2019, 9:33 PM

#

@vestal briar @ is the root folder

#

so it's like /

#

. gets things from a dict

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folders are just dicts

vestal briar Jul 2, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Ew

narrow comet Jul 2, 2019, 9:51 PM

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@vestal briar it's simpler tho

vestal briar Jul 2, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Ew

narrow comet Jul 2, 2019, 9:59 PM

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nah m8

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iz good

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if you use string replacement to make it look better

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#print (#add (#int (#input "")) (#int (#input "")))

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ahh

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much better

vestal briar Jul 2, 2019, 10:00 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

median scaffold Jul 3, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Hey all.
Does anyone here know C++? I'm having an issue with something. Its a homework problem I'm pretty much almost done with. 😅
Here's what I got:

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grave phoenix Jul 3, 2019, 2:23 AM

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@median scaffold I can give you a C++ Help server

median scaffold Jul 3, 2019, 2:24 AM

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Sure!

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That would be very helpful. Thanks. 😄

uneven radish Jul 3, 2019, 8:09 AM

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Complete hunch change ‘fruit’ to like ‘yeet’

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That was like 6 hours ago

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Hmm

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 9:03 AM

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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/07/03/googles_fuchsia_os_flutters_into_view/

Google's Fuchsia OS Flutters into view: We're just trying out some...

Really? Looks like a strategic project to us

rough sapphire Jul 3, 2019, 9:09 AM

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wonder how long before they kill it

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🔪

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 9:11 AM

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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/07/02/npm_abandons_settlement_talks/

NPM Inc settles union-busting complaints on third try – after CE...

Stuffed mole toys arrive at JavaScript biz after chief exec demands to know who was talking to El Reg

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that whole NPM thing is a fucking joke

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a complete fucking joke

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firing people over them using their right to unionize?

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trying to set up a foundation and refusing to let it operate independently?

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what a dumpster fire

vestal briar Jul 3, 2019, 9:13 AM

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It's npm

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The entire thing is a joke

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Not just the in-company drama

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It's nice when microsoft realizes that porting server stuff onto linux is a viable option

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 1:04 PM

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hey @tired osprey, guess what caused the cloudflare outage yesterday

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it was a bad regex

tired osprey Jul 3, 2019, 1:05 PM

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what was it

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hahaha

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 1:05 PM

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ring a bell?

tired osprey Jul 3, 2019, 1:05 PM

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thats amazing

wet steppe Jul 3, 2019, 1:05 PM

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OMG I thought it was my internet

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 1:05 PM

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:P

tired osprey Jul 3, 2019, 1:05 PM

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yeah

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 1:05 PM

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Yeah, it was in their WAF offering

tired osprey Jul 3, 2019, 1:05 PM

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but I didnt deploy my stuff to cloudflare 😛

wet steppe Jul 3, 2019, 1:05 PM

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I kept getting "502 Gateway error Cloudflare"

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 1:05 PM

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bad regex caused 100% CPU usage

wet steppe Jul 3, 2019, 1:05 PM

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thanks Nix for the regex 😮

tired osprey Jul 3, 2019, 1:05 PM

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no no

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 1:05 PM

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I wonder if it was catastrophic backtracking

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:P

tired osprey Jul 3, 2019, 1:05 PM

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what g is referring to is a regex i put into @royal lake once

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which might or might not have done the same

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maybe

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 1:06 PM

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it did, yeah

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that one took ages to figure out

wet steppe Jul 3, 2019, 1:06 PM

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ooh

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 1:06 PM

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we all learned something new though

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:P

tired osprey Jul 3, 2019, 1:06 PM

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no wonder it was like 2 or 3 hours

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 1:06 PM

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we'd noticed the problem some time before

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but it wasn't consistent enough to focus on

tired osprey Jul 3, 2019, 1:07 PM

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502s in several regions over 3 hours

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doesnt really sound consistent if you ask me

wet steppe Jul 3, 2019, 1:07 PM

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I should really learn the HTTP status codes

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 1:07 PM

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it was consistent

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it starved their entire network of CPU

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everything

tired osprey Jul 3, 2019, 1:08 PM

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but a few regions survived according to cloudflare status

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 1:08 PM

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Yeah, it hadn't rolled out that far yet

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It took them about 30 mins to fix it

tired osprey Jul 3, 2019, 1:08 PM

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but the issues started at like 1:30 pm and were fixed around 3 pm

plucky ridge Jul 3, 2019, 1:09 PM

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Could have been a situation where they staunched the bleeding in half an hour and did a more serious fix after that

tulip palm Jul 3, 2019, 1:09 PM

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100% cpu usage? must have been toasty as fuck

tired osprey Jul 3, 2019, 1:09 PM

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thats actually a fun way to ruin a company

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just change one of their ancient regexes so this happens and bam

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 1:10 PM

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yeah, just get nix to write a regex

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I wonder if there are many regex DoS exploits out there

tired osprey Jul 3, 2019, 1:10 PM

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hey many of my regexes were fine and it took you some time to figure it out too!

plucky ridge Jul 3, 2019, 1:10 PM

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Regnix?

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Nah that doesn't work as well as I thought

tired osprey Jul 3, 2019, 1:10 PM

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and you at least knew there was something wrong

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 1:10 PM

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Regix

plucky ridge Jul 3, 2019, 1:10 PM

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Yeah there we go

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 1:10 PM

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Yeah but on the other hand

wet steppe Jul 3, 2019, 1:10 PM

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Regex Golf is a fun game

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 1:11 PM

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we don't have a global networking backbone to fuck up

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not yet, anyway

plucky ridge Jul 3, 2019, 1:11 PM

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Well, unless you count the underwater cables

tired osprey Jul 3, 2019, 1:11 PM

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*starts to develop an automatic regex fuckup

sand goblet Jul 3, 2019, 1:11 PM

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Haha

wet steppe Jul 3, 2019, 1:11 PM

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thinking of running underwater cables in my minecraft world

plucky ridge Jul 3, 2019, 1:11 PM

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That sounds tedious as balls

wet steppe Jul 3, 2019, 1:11 PM

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my friend got more power generation than me I want to steal it

plucky ridge Jul 3, 2019, 1:11 PM

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Especially with all the repeaters you'll have to toss in

wet steppe Jul 3, 2019, 1:12 PM

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ah this is big modded pack

plucky ridge Jul 3, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Ohhh okay

tired osprey Jul 3, 2019, 1:12 PM

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redstone is worse than fiber change my mind

plucky ridge Jul 3, 2019, 1:12 PM

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So not like lines and lines of redstone

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I mean

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Yes

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You're not wrong Nix

wet steppe Jul 3, 2019, 1:12 PM

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it looks more like this https://i.imgur.com/M7St0gF.png

Imgur