ot1-perplexing-regexing

[oak tangle]

In principle, it has nothing to do with the transformation, but it has an effect of the transformation

[glass gorge]

[oak tangle]

It just means that the vectors of the matrix are not linearly dependent

Say you have 2 by something matrix

And the vectors are linearly dependent, the span is just a line. You can't reach any other place in your graph with those two vectors, because they point in the same direction on the same line.

So, the span is just 1

If they are not pointing on the same line, you can reach a 2d plane with those two vectors (rows), so the span is a 2d plane

[glass gorge]

I get that

Im just slightly confused by range is an effect of a transformation ?

[oak tangle]

No, range is just a word for that span

[glass gorge]

oh.

The span after a transformation?

[oak tangle]

But, it says "what can we reach with this transformation"

So, the "range:

[glass gorge]

hmm

Can i say that Range A spans the full codomain?

The set of R^m basically

Yeah that sounds sensical

The next one im pretty sure is false then, since it's pretty much the opposite ?

If it spans all of R^m then it wont have more than 1 X mapped to 1 Y

Oh theres also this weird statement i can't really figure out.. If a m x n matrix A is row equivalent to an echelon matrix T and T has k nonzero rows. Then the dimensions of the solution space of Ax = 0 is m - k dimensions

(Side note, it's funny how My last hand in was maybe 10-14 pages... and i saw other submissions that didn't pass have 50-100 pages )

[oak tangle]

This video may help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQhTuRlWMxw&index=7&list=PLZHQObOWTQDPD3MizzM2xVFitgF8hE_ab

[glass gorge]

Ugh, seen it like 3 times

Watched the entire series 3 times actually :|

It's just going really slow

[rough sapphire]

I love 3b1b

[proper dune]

@glass gorge Each row that's 0 in the row echelon form of a matrix is a dimension that the matrix/system doesn't have. It's an equation in the system of the simultaneous equations that isn't independent from the other ones. Zero rows therefore give the matrix a non-zero null space. The statement is just telling you that m-k gives the dimension of the nullspace for a matrix with mxn shape and k zero rows

Also yes, is love, is life

[glass gorge]

ok ok, give me roughly 26 minutes to process that

Then I will question it for another 21 :)

What is m-k specifically

is it m minus k?

[proper dune]

Yes

[glass gorge]

So how many dimensions the original matrix has, minus how many nonzero rows there aer?

[proper dune]

Yep (after you reduce to echelon form)

[glass gorge]

Right right

[proper dune]

If m=k then m-k is zero i.e. dimension of the null space is zero, that is there are as many independent equations as there are dimensions

[glass gorge]

And since A is row equivalent to T, it is essentially the same right?

in this context

[proper dune]

They are equivalent systems but the non echelon form doesn't have non-zero rows (because it's a linear combination of the other rows)

[glass gorge]

So lemme attempt to answer the statement then, it is false, because then if the system is linearly independent, in that there are no zero rows its implying the result space is in R^0?

[proper dune]

It's a statement, you don't say true or false to it do you? And yes, if the system is linearly independent, then the only solution to Ax=0 is the trivial solution which is x=0 unlike when k≠m where the nullspace is an infinite line or plane or volume of vectors or whatever

[glass gorge]

uh a bit lost on that

and it's part of the assignment to tell if the statements are true or false, and explain why with proof, theorems or counter examples

What is the solution space here? x or b in Ax = b

b right?

I'm not connecting the dots here, sorry

[proper dune]

Equation in the question is Ax=0. The solution space to that is the null space of A (by definition)

[glass gorge]

Oh right 🤦

I wrote some stuff

Thanks a lot @proper dune and @oak tangle Love you guys, no homo

[river anvil]

i have this old pc plugged in my room, its not plugged into any monitor and i guess i left it on

but everyonce in a while ill hear it restart

which is weird

and right now i just saw it eject the disk restart and pull the disk back in

idk wth is going on

i turned off electronically just now

[rough sapphire]

sounds like you have ghosts.. who you gon call

[river anvil]

im just never going to turn that thing on

[rough sapphire]

Lol, you sound like that xkcd cueball character with the most bizzare tech issues

[river anvil]

i heard it make sounds earlier even though it was turned off manually, i didnt unplug it though

[grave phoenix]

[river anvil]

i think now in hindsight its the computer making sure it doesnt decay over time

ya know, get "rusty" per say

ive heard stories of people not using hard drives for a while and they become corrupted

i think it was just doing that

as for the disk i think it was just making sure it still worked and all'

thats my reasoning and im sticking to it because i want to sleep tonight

if that is the case though kudos to whoever thought of that

if not, god help me

[heavy jackal]

3 days ago, I started making fundamental structural changes to my program, implementing functionality and communication between multiple classes, restructuring it, and completely conceptually overhauling a few things. I haven't been able to run it at all for debugging for those 3 days. Now I can. I feel mainly trepidation. Like finally opening an unknown container at the back of the fridge so that you can clean it out.

[heavy jackal]

I only had to fix 4 errors and it seems to run again. Seems good. Now to improve it until it no longer works again

[vapid bluff]

im getting some weirdness with reddit and chrome

after scrolling a bit the page flashes white then disappears

sometimes it shows back up again but from the top

just me?

[heavy jackal]

revises the design document for this program

So I have this project I made for myself. I got into a real rat-hole of a problem. I decided to make a simplified version of the project to try to drill down to the crux of the problem so I could understand it and play around with different solutions. Somewhere along the line I lost sight of that while I was improving my skills and restructuring things to be more efficient, and now it looks like the new simplified program is going to replace the old one entirely

And I only remembered what it was originally meant to be because I looked at my old notes.

[heavy jackal]

On the upside I did actually come up with what I think are good solutions to the problems I had, so I've got that going for me, which is nice

[stark prawn]

https://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2019/03/brighten-up-your-day-add-color-to-intellij-idea/

[vestal briar]

Procrastinating doing APIs

[halcyon siren]

Learning Javascript right now, I have two classes in 2 files and I am making an instance of each class in a 3rd file

if I need to get instance data from one object of one class to another, how should I go about it? I feel like I would know how to best do it but I am really blanking right now

disregard, I can just access the instance data through the object and pass it into a method of the other class. I'm used to Java with private instance data and didn't think to do that

[heavy jackal]

when you do what you think is a really, really simple refactoring of code and it causes everything to immediately break

and uncover like 2 other serious bugs in the process

[river anvil]

[rough sapphire]

guys

is pokemon plural or singular..

can you say pokemons

[rough sapphire]

does anyone know? it's a matter of life and death

[heavy jackal]

Pokemon is the plural and singular.

So you use "pokemon's" for the possessive, and "pokemons" to annoy youths

For advanced annoyance, call everything "pikachu", unless they're a human, in which case it's Goku

[rough sapphire]

XD

thank you

your photo looks like a pokemon too..

[river anvil]

it looks like a furby

[heavy jackal]

It is a Kilwala, from Chrono Trigger

When you meet the character "Spekkio" his form varies according to the level of... the lowest levelled member of your party, I think. "If I look weak, you are weak. If I look strong, you are strong." something like that. Unless you're doing something weird, the first time you meet him, he'll look like a Kilwala

If you deliberately keep someone underlevelled you can see him as a frog first.

I think he's a cool dude. He just... gives you incredible magic powers for free.

Or, possible he's a jerk who deliberately interferes with the balance of power so that he has more interesting wars to watch.

[river anvil]

gosh im tired

i cant focus on anything

anyone have solutions

[heavy jackal]

have you tried: sleep

[lilac glade]

[rough sapphire]

looks like a mankey

[river anvil]

:(

na

[lilac glade]

You should try getting some sleep.

[river anvil]

i have uh hard time getting to sleep

usually itll take me hours to get to sleep even if im tired

[lilac glade]

Melatonin should be your friend, then.

[rough sapphire]

so american..

[river anvil]

hm

[rough sapphire]

drugs for everything

[river anvil]

lol

i think refisio is in the uk

[heavy jackal]

Sleep, caffeine, remove destractions, make your surroundings more conducive to studying (remove distractions, study music).

[rough sapphire]

hit the gym.. is my advise for everything..deserve your sleep

[heavy jackal]

Lots and lots of meth?

[lilac glade]

I'm not.
It's currently 3am

[heavy jackal]

oh yeah. And exercise and diet.

[river anvil]

meth doesnt make you not tired

[river anvil]

it just makes you super active

[rough sapphire]

also addicted

[river anvil]

oh yeah

that too

[rough sapphire]

addictive substances are addictive

[river anvil]

its midnight for me

[rough sapphire]

It's kinda funny

[river anvil]

i went to the gym earlier

[heavy jackal]

friggin melatonin.... it's prescription only here in australia

[rough sapphire]

we say we stepped on a thorn.. not that a thorn stung us

[river anvil]

and then did a bunch of shopping

and then cleaned up

and then sat down to code

and im too tired to code

[rough sapphire]

but people act like its the drugs fault that they got addicted

[heavy jackal]

and if you look on the shelf you see melatonin in homeopathic-level dosages which is just worthless

[river anvil]

i have anti histamines

[rough sapphire]

homeopathy is fake too

like yoga

[river anvil]

but if i took a high enough dose to fall asleep id probably have liver failure

my mom has some powerful sleep meds but usually when i take them i sleep too much

like 10 hours or something

[rough sapphire]

maybe try vitamin b

it makes you sleepy

[river anvil]

whats that

where do i get that

[rough sapphire]

no side effects.. as long as you don't overdose.. which is hard to do, considering you'd have to take a lot of it

[river anvil]

where do i get it

[rough sapphire]

It's a vitamin.. they sell it at most over the top counters

if not all

[river anvil]

imnot going to walke 5 miles to the nearest cvs for some vitamins :o

[rough sapphire]

Vitamin B6

it'll make you lot less tired too.. regulates sleep

[river anvil]

okay but i was kind of asking now, in the moment

cant really get that till tomorrow

[heavy jackal]

Eat a banana?

Might make things better or worse.

[river anvil]

ay i just got some bananas today

okay

[rough sapphire]

bananas are potassium..

well if you believe anything helps, it does

[river anvil]

eugh its not ripe

[rough sapphire]

fry it

[river anvil]

i dont have a fryer

for some reason most of the server does though

[heavy jackal]

I interpreted that to mean, fry it in a pan

[rough sapphire]

well how else would you fry it

[heavy jackal]

deep frying?

[river anvil]

with a deep fryer

[rough sapphire]

wut

why would you have a deep fryer but not a fryer.. again so american..

deep fryers are for fast food joints

[river anvil]

i was talking about some food i had that needed a deep fryer and people were telling me to get a deep fryer or cook oil in a pan and get ready for fires

i was very concerned

[heavy jackal]

Pressure cookers work by applying large amounts of pressure and heat to the food. Therefore, you could use explosives to cook food in the blink of an eye.

[rough sapphire]

do you know how to put out oil fires

[river anvil]

i was told to throw it outside

which i wouldnt do since theres houses around

[heavy jackal]

I would just cover it and turn off the heat, I think.

[river anvil]

as you'd expect in suburbia

cover it with what?

[heavy jackal]

Great big pot lid.

Or another pan. Or whatever.

Fire blankets are a thing you can buy.

[river anvil]

im not going to buy a fire blanket to cook some old fries i found in my freezer

[rough sapphire]

lol

yes you're supposed to cover it

fire needs three things - fuel , oxygen, heat

take one away.. you quench it

used to fight a lotta fires back in the day..

for oil fires, you don't throw water on them.. it just spreads..

[heavy jackal]

I've seen clips of that demonstrated. They have a burning pot of oil. They pour a cup of water into it. And then they have a room full of fire.

[rough sapphire]

I'll do you one better

wait

[heavy jackal]

A burning, very very hot pot of oil I have to specify

So the water instantly boiled and vaporised

There's this norwegian TV show.... I believe the name translates to something like "don't try this at home". Where they basically do things exactly wrong and gradually destroy the house

[rough sapphire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuPVEsQaGB0

[heavy jackal]

In one episode they weld closed the release valve on a water heater. When it goes off it splits the house at the corner

[rough sapphire]

Bleve.. boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion

usually happens when fire occurs in a closed or semi open container..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjb7lL5z-Js

oil + fire + water = boom

[heavy jackal]

hey, I found it

https://youtu.be/qFazHHkqNRQ?t=133

[tame terrace]

yeah that clip is good. don't fuck with oil fires.

[rough sapphire]

did they really burn down a house to demonstrate.. XD

[heavy jackal]

Yeah, they progressively destroy the house as they do crazy shit like run a hose into one of the upstairs rooms, close the doors and windows, and flood it

since most of the episodes only destroy the house a LITTLE bit it's reusable until they do something really big

like the water heater one. That compromised the structural integrity of the house

[languid kelp]

well thats dumb

[heavy jackal]

They're cheap houses and it adds a real layer of authenticity, I think

[gentle moss]

oof

in the UK they got called chip pan fires

because UK i guess

[rough sapphire]

I'm trying to get the term American Fries to take off..

[gentle moss]

er, it already has

for american style fries

[rough sapphire]

no.. I meant for fries in general

you know how people say french fries..

[gentle moss]

UK doesn't call skinny chips chips

they're fries

[rough sapphire]

whats a skinny chip

[tame pier]

Chips are flat

Chips are not fries

[rough sapphire]

chips are flat

[gentle moss]

and they're often sold as "american fries"

[tame pier]

Fries are fries

[tame pier]

Murica'

[gentle moss]

these are chips

[rough sapphire]

no

[gentle moss]

yes.

[rough sapphire]

those are fries

[tame pier]

ha

[gentle moss]

no, they're chips.

[tame pier]

obviously fries

any fool could determine that

[rough sapphire]

your honor.. please hold this person in contempt of court

[gentle moss]

i'm a lord, go sit on it m8

[rough sapphire]

and guilty of food heresy

[proper dune]

oh my lordy not this again

why can we be more like aussies

[gentle moss]

been doing this more than half my life with yanks

¬_¬

[proper dune]

we call fries both fries and chips and call chips chips and crisps

[rough sapphire]

call everything Shielas

[gentle moss]

well if i wanted to reference skinny chips i'd call them fries

cuz they fries yo

fat fries = chips

cause they're chips of potato

duh

[proper dune]

that's a fair distinction, when I think fries, I think shoestring

[tame pier]

All this talk of fries is making me crave In-N-Out Burger

[gentle moss]

it makes me want curry and chips

there are crisps we call chips though

we don't call all crisps crisps

kettle chips are chips because they're a special kind of crisp that hates your mouth

tortilla chips also are chips

[rough sapphire]

Shake Shack for me.. they got the best cheese fries

Fries dammit!

[gentle moss]

i have seen a few videos about your burgers

shake shack smash burger looks pretty nice

[rough sapphire]

im not American :v I just like American food.. lol.. who doesnt

maybe not the French

[gentle moss]

there's a lot of American food that's fucking awful though

[tame pier]

Oh yeah Shake Shack is pretty good

In Las Vegas you can get a beer float there

Which was fucking delish

[gentle moss]

one thing that DOES impress me about the US

is fast food chinese

panda express etc

[tame pier]

Panda

Yeah

[gentle moss]

that's just fucking brilliant

all our chinese places are generally restaurants who do take away

[rough sapphire]

root beer float?

[gentle moss]

but it takes like half an hour to get food

ice cream in root beer

[rough sapphire]

pls help

[tame pier]

Nope, Beer beer

[rough sapphire]

wow

that's amazing

[gentle moss]

OH

beer float

that's...

fucked up.

[rough sapphire]

lol

how do i extract digits from numbers?

[tame pier]

Tried it on a whim, was pleasantly suprised

Yeah see that's what I thought

Gotta try it to believe it

[gentle moss]

yeah but American beer isn't that great is it?

like sex in a canoe

fucking close to water

[rough sapphire]

you know what I always wanted to try.. one of those deep fried twinkies..etc.. the things they fry twice etc.. at the carnivals?

@rough sapphire you can ask in a help channel

[tame pier]

It was an IPA IIRC or possibly a craft beer

[gentle moss]

oh that's not so bad then

[tame pier]

Wasn't piss beer

[rough sapphire]

no response

[tame pier]

Can't stand Coors, Bud, etc.

[rough sapphire]

pls response

[gentle moss]

wait

be patient

this server isn't here to cater to your every whim

[rough sapphire]

i'm guilty of.. liking budweiser.. and heineken..

[tame pier]

Heineken is alright

[lilac glade]

Could also jump into a help channel.

[gentle moss]

someone will probably answer your questiion in time

[lilac glade]

Dogfishhead is good.

[rough sapphire]

there's this one beer they stock at Lidl

[tame pier]

It's 0230 for me I'm too tired to help effectively

[rough sapphire]

I forgot it's name.. german though

Perlenbacher!

cheap.. but so good..

[tame pier]

Think I saw Dockfishhead in a Albertsons a few months ago lol

[gentle moss]

gluten free beer is limited

only started getting real selections a few years ago

[tame pier]

wut

why

why would you take out the gluten

[gentle moss]

because i can't have gluten

disease.

not choice.

[tame pier]

ahh

ok understandable, I have a good friend who has Syliacs

[gentle moss]

some of IPA's are quite good

and the Peroni tastes exactly like peroni with gluten, apparently

[rough sapphire]

celiac

my ex had that..

[gentle moss]

ceoliac

:P

[tame pier]

Celiac, right, sorry

Huh

[gentle moss]

there are a few ways of spelling it

[rough sapphire]

no there ain't

[tame pier]

ai not

[gentle moss]

er, yes there is

celiac, ceoliac, it's also sometimes called sprue

wow

the fucking balls on telling me how to spell a disease i've had since i was a kid

:P

and just to prove a point

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coeliac-disease/

womp womp

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tame pier]

That's UK gov't tho

[rough sapphire]

I got balls for days

[tame pier]

Can't trust those brits

[gentle moss]

shit, coeliac too

[rough sapphire]

I'll send them a correction later..

[gentle moss]

mmhm.

[tame pier]

I mean, you guys still have a queen

[rough sapphire]

she's

hot

[gentle moss]

there was talk of the Prime Minister trying to blackmail her the other week

[river anvil]

hey KE

[tame pier]

how does that even work

[gentle moss]

not a clue

[rough sapphire]

blackmailing her for what

maybe they had an affair..

[gentle moss]

to try and get her to overrule parliament

or some shit

[rough sapphire]

😮

[gentle moss]

which is DUUUUMB

and like

"taking back sovreignty" with brexit

then you go to THE QUEEN

[tame pier]

lol

[gentle moss]

to overrule democratically elected people?

fucking lol

[rough sapphire]

what's that spanish channel where they always air stuff about affairs and stuff

that'd be cool.. a modern monarchy

[tame pier]

Hi Kazo

[gentle moss]

errr

[rough sapphire]

I wouldn't want to live there.. but from afar it's cool lol

[gentle moss]

hello? the kardashians

[tame pier]

lol

[rough sapphire]

I wonder if there's a way to block out that word on discord..

[gentle moss]

i try to not keep up with them

yet somehow i still know too much about them

[rough sapphire]

they pay media to cover them

then they get paid more for sponsorships

[river anvil]

oh you responded lol

was working on something

how are you, KE?

[tame pier]

Insomniac

4 hours of sleep last night yet I'm still up late again

[river anvil]

yea..

i get that

whatre you doing besides that?

[rough sapphire]

making it rain

[river anvil]

i realize now using a for loop was a grave mistake

[tame pier]

Watching an anime about a Slime

[heavy jackal]

I believe we mean the one about the guy who gets reincarnated into a slime

[river anvil]

flubber

flubber

[heavy jackal]

I watched a few episodes but honestly I wasn't impressed by the storytelling. It's like One Punch Man except that the protagonist is just getting exactly what he wants every time. Also he's kinda a jerk.

[river anvil]

with robin williams

[tame pier]

I like it

It's a mostly lighthearted fun anime

[heavy jackal]

Well, no. Saitama wanted a worthy opponent that was fun to fight. He never got that.

[river anvil]

sounds like fairytail

[tame pier]

Rising of the Shield Hero on the other hand...

[heavy jackal]

He also wanted to be recognised as a hero - a bit - but got zero respect too. It's like if someone wished to the Superman on a monkey's paw.

[rough sapphire]

Saitama is the name of a place north of Tokyo

[heavy jackal]

I like BNH academia a lot more but there's still something that I can't quite pick there that holds me back from really loving it. It's good, but somehow just not great

BNH memes though are fantastic

[river anvil]

this is a dumb question but for fizzbuzz shouldnt you just compare if its divisible by 15 instead of 5 and 3 at the same time

seems cleaner

but i see a lot of examples that just do 5 and 3 instead of 15

:/

wdym everything divisible by 5 and 3 is divisible by 15

i dont mean fizz or buzz

i mean fizz-buzz

what

[heavy jackal]

if it's divisible by 15 you'll also trigger the 3 and the 5. So you need to make sure that if it's divisible by 15 then you're not going to trigger individual checks for 3 and 5.

[tame pier]

BNH, MHA, MEH

[river anvil]

what

not making any sense today

im also tired

let me get my program

[heavy jackal]

OTherwise you'll write 13, 14, fizzbuzzfizzbuzz

[river anvil]

if not i % 15:
    print("fizz-buzz")
elif not i % 3:
    print("fizz")
elif not i % 5:
    print("buzz")
else:
    print(i)```

mine doesnt right fizzbuzzfizzbuzz

mine works as intended

i think

[heavy jackal]

Sure. BEcause you put it in an elif, so you won't check for divisibility by 3 or 5 if it IS divisible by 15

which is what I said

[river anvil]

?????????

im so confused i need to sleep

yes i know

but most people

do this

[oak tangle]

I saw divisibility and the prime factors of 15, so I was thinking about a prima checker, but it's fizz buzz

[river anvil]

if not i % 5 and not i % 3:
    print("fizz-buzz")
elif not i % 3:
    print("fizz")
elif not i % 5:
    print("buzz")
else:
    print(i)```

err most examples do thios

so im confused why they dont do the efficent way

[heavy jackal]

Oh. Well. That's mathematically equivalent, but I think that they do it that way to clearly preserve what it is exactly that you're checking for

rather than simplifying down which would conceal the meaning

[river anvil]

they also dont use falsey statements they use == and !=

oh

i guess

thats probably why im not a good teacher 😕

i look for the most efficent code

or cleanest

im good at double checking friend's code tho

[heavy jackal]

I would do it differently myself. I'd do it with one check for 3 and one check for 5 and do silly buggers with the print statements as long as I'm allowed to write "fizzbuzz" without a hyphen.

and don't check for both separately at all.

[river anvil]

i was told to use a hyphen

what

[heavy jackal]

Ah... I don't see an easier way, then.

[river anvil]

yea, i like this book then bigtheory made

its pretty cool

the excerises are nice

mostly because theyre challenging but not too hard

[heavy jackal]

plays with deques

Neato.

I'm gonna need a deque of lists.

[sand goblet]

But can you pronounce it!?

[heavy jackal]

"deck"

[river anvil]

de-que

oh

[sand goblet]

Deck, yep

[river anvil]

that too

[heavy jackal]

which is exactly how it behaves.

[sand goblet]

Sort of yeah

[heavy jackal]

Well, sure, I can't efficiently perform a riffle shuffle or construct a house of cards.

but you could certainly represent a deck of cards with a deque.

[sand goblet]

I feel like an ordered set would be more appropriate, but yes

[heavy jackal]

Two jokers.

[sand goblet]

Red joker, black joker

[tame pier]

"deku"

[heavy jackal]

kacchan~~

[tame pier]

[rough sapphire]

yolo

I don't know any anime words.. :v though I'm in Japan lol

kawaii?

[heavy jackal]

There is nani to be sore.

"Arigathanks"

[tame pier]

Oh you're in Japan?

memory recall isn't great right now

[rough sapphire]

arigathanks.. lol.. i'm so gonna put that on a t shirt

well you haven't had any sleep.. omg don't die.. get some sleep

count sheep

[tame pier]

that doesn't work

If I'm laying there for 30 - 60 minutes then I give up

[rough sapphire]

I was suggesting vitamin B6 earlier

to kazo.. maybe you could try that

[tame pier]

Magnesium powder used to help

Also the sleeping agent in nyquill (they sell it in separate bottles) doesn't do much

Just need to start reading again before bed instead of weebing out and stalking pydis

[heavy jackal]

I wrote code and the script still runs. Those lines aren't active but they aren't invalid so colour me surprised

if I get the second half in and active and it actually works as intended I won't know how to celebrate

[tame pier]

With Chocolate

[heavy jackal]

All I have is turkish delight and white chocolate.

It'll have to be ovaltine instead.

[heavy jackal]

It seems to work! https://i.imgur.com/oVNVY.gif

[sand goblet]

https://i.imgur.com/8ykO0Mi.jpg

[heavy jackal]

Hooo. One more feature, then I'm going to bed

[river anvil]

are you making tetris

[heavy jackal]

No, I just needed a reaction gif to express my celebration that my code continues to run after the latest changes

[river anvil]

oh

what are you making

[heavy jackal]

D&D NPC generator with a strong emphasis on being able to find who rises to the top in a society. It's become more of a settlement simulator.

As far as I can tell, nothing like it exists yet so if I can pull it off it'll be pretty cool

[river anvil]

that sounds cool

[heavy jackal]

It's forcing me to be careful about what I implement, to what detail, and how. I don't have the processing power to run random events and monetary gain and the slow accumulation of experience points for every NPC every time increment.

Because I want to run like 10,000 NPCs

or more

[river anvil]

so how are you going about this then?

[heavy jackal]

Well, firstly I ignore slow accumulation of money and xp. I give out xp in random big lumps and ignore money itself entirely (everything it does can be substituted by random events, and at the end of it all if I need to find someone's net worth I can just make it up). So let's say that I have a town of 1000 people (list of 1000 people) and they are all subject to the effects of the basic Citizen lifestyle. Each time increment, a random number of random events is generated (say, 99 instances of "gain 1000 experience" and one instance of "die from an accident") and each one of THOSE is assigned to a random person. Then resolve those. Everyone that died is filtered out and sent to the graveyard, and empty slots in the settlement capacity are filled with new people.

[river anvil]

are you using a database for this?

[heavy jackal]

Everyone's birthday is recorded and the points at which they hit a new age category or die of old age are precalculated and sorted by year so that you're not constantly sifting through events that aren't going to happen immediately.

[river anvil]

if so what database

[heavy jackal]

Not yet.

[river anvil]

pandas might be good

hm but calculating someones net worth?

what if someone grew up poor and spent hundreds every day or something and then at the end they come out with $100million or something

is there no pattern to the net worth generator

or do you have an algo

(exaggerated of course)

[heavy jackal]

It's not written yet, but I expect that I'd look at their Lifestyles, level, and age, weight those, and then apply some random noise

Because like... maybe you have the next warren buffet and maybe you have a feckless spendthrift

I don't need to analyze it every tick because I can just write some random events like "large inheritance windfall" and "house burned down" to introduce some randomness into the final event

in terms of actual usage, you make this thing spit out a settlement, you make it tell you about particular NPCs you want to know about (like town guards, tavern keepers, crime lords, and wizard university deans) - including how much stuff they have to take in case the PCs kill and loot them

since the time increment is a quarter of a year you might have an entire campaign start and end without having to run even one more tick after you perform the first generation.

[river anvil]

you got this on github?

[heavy jackal]

Not yet. After I have something to show

also after I learn how to use github

[river anvil]

okay ping me when you do

i wanna see that

github was hard for me to use at first

[heavy jackal]

Nice. I planned to implement the next feature a certain way. Go to the relevant method to update it. Reread my comments. Try to figure out what I mean by them for 5 minutes and give up, concluding that they were meant as some kind of warning NOT to implement the planned feature the way I intended because something else will break if I do (because it doesn't specify what or why). Do something else for 15 minutes.

Then I realise that I misinterpreted my comments completely and it's OK to just do it the way I originally wanted. They were never a warning at all.

[river anvil]

yeah I hate writing comments but i also hate having to figure out what i was trying to do

[slim viper]

https://pastebin.com/EJX7mqtq

Here are two post request examples, the difference is that I slightly changed the name on the second one to see if it would change but the request just remained blank. Meanwhile the first returned 200 (it was done through Instagram itself but the second one was just with Edit and Resend.

I thought the problem was me editing it through the browser but if I edit the first one and send it with no changes it goes through.

[crisp sierra]

@drowsy sigil here is a place for spicy Python memes

[grim nest]

meme it

[river anvil]

am i the only one on discord that uses the note feature?

like how you can click someones profile and put a note on them

the thing at the bottom

i use that with a lot of people here

[vague shuttle]

Mine is my steam link

[river anvil]

hm

i dont use steam a lot anymore

occasionally ill play a game ont here but usually i just people minecraft or do something else

[vague shuttle]

How old are u?

Curious considering u play minecraft

[river anvil]

14, plenty of adults here play minecraft

[atomic sierra]

true

[sand goblet]

can confirm

am adult

[vague shuttle]

Fully aware of it

[river anvil]

i think gdude plays

yea

[atomic sierra]

minecraft is a game

lotta adults play fornite

and its meant for kids

[vague shuttle]

I never made a comment about minecraft and adults

[atomic sierra]

ik

just stating

[sand goblet]

bitches got nothing on my base

[vague shuttle]

I have played minecraft on and off since 2010

[river anvil]

:/

im playing tekkit legends

[vague shuttle]

Just find it quite boring these days

[sand goblet]

Skyfactory 3

[river anvil]

yea i have too

[atomic sierra]

i play factions

[river anvil]

i only play modded now

[sand goblet]

factions is a bit of a cancer to be honest

[river anvil]

vanilla isnt fun for me anymore

[sand goblet]

basically ruined survival

[atomic sierra]

can someone see if they can help me in #303906096458891264

it may be cancer but i play it sometimes, im mostly pvp-typo dude

[river anvil]

gdude, does skyfactory have computercraft?

[sand goblet]

It has OpenComputers, which is vastly superior

[river anvil]

oh alright

does it have IC2

[sand goblet]

No

[river anvil]

d'aw

[sand goblet]

It's got EnderIO, immersive engineering, big reactors

that sort of thing

[river anvil]

ive never used enderio

[sand goblet]

where the heck have you been

it's such an essential mod

[river anvil]

i only really play tekkit lol

[sand goblet]

you won't go back to tekkit once you've worked with enderio conduits

[river anvil]

what can you do with them?

[sand goblet]

they're basically the modern equivalent of pipes or ducts

item, fluid, power

redstone, also opencomputers cable support

very customizable, they take filters, upgrades, they're very reliable, support priorities, multiple channels

and you can have all of the conduits together in the space of a single block

the mod itself contains a ton of very useful machines and items too though

oh, you also have conduit facades

[river anvil]

hm

is your server public?

[sand goblet]

No, it's whitelisted and I'm not the person running it

but I can show you facades

they're awesome

[river anvil]

oh alright

[sand goblet]

so here we have some conduits

the green square is power, the green pattern is item, and the grey ones are fluid

[river anvil]

are they smaller than blocks?

[sand goblet]

No

now I'll add a facade..

the facade works perfectly with all textures from all mods

as you can see it connects the textures perfectly

[river anvil]

wow

[sand goblet]

but if I want to work with the conduits inside the facade..

[river anvil]

thats... impressive

[sand goblet]

all I need to do is hold a wrench

and I can work directly with them as if the facade wasn't there

facades also work with transparent blocks

they can be explosion resistant

if you paint them with Quite Clear Glass, they'll actually be invisible entirely

conduits are by far the most useful aspect of this mod

[river anvil]

huh

[sand goblet]

it does have tons of other useful stuff

the thing with enderio is that everything is configurable

if we take the sag mill - a crusher type machine - as an example

you might want to work with it without using any conduits, and you can totally do that

stick a chest on either side and configure it to do what you want

[river anvil]

yea, seems expansive

[sand goblet]

imagine my cursor is where the arrow is

my tool doesn't capture cursors

[river anvil]

okay

[sand goblet]

you can rotate that around and configure the sides with your mouse

there's no guessing which button corresponds to which side

item buffers are basically small chests that can be configured in the same way

there's tons of other stuff, I recommend you look it up

it's the backbone of almost every pack these days

[river anvil]

hm

alright if i change packs ill try to get one that has enderIO

[sand goblet]

think about like

how you typically store power

for example

How would you do that?

a ton of MFSUs in series or parallel?

[river anvil]

yea probably

[sand goblet]

yep

enter the capacitor bank

[river anvil]

hows it different

[sly mango]

Im trying to install homebrew and its getting stuck in terminal. Got any ideas?

[sand goblet]

this here is a vibrant cap bank

it stores 25 million RF and has a transfer rate of 25k RF/t

is that not enough?

let's slap another one next to it

as you can see, it's scaled up and now the two of these function as a unit

you can make huge, efficient batteries by essentially just sticking them together

[river anvil]

wow

[sand goblet]

that's a 3x3x3 cube

[sly mango]

is this minecraft?

[sand goblet]

Yep

[sly mango]

jesus

[sand goblet]

and of course they are configurable

[river anvil]

i havent been on one in ages but there used to be these small little servers that were completely vanilla and there would be maybe 30 total people on there (not at a time)

[sand goblet]

even shows your armour and baubles to quickly drop them into the charging slots

[river anvil]

they were hard to find but really fun

[sand goblet]

I got tired of vanilla years ago

[river anvil]

me too

[sand goblet]

I've been playing MC since before it even had multiplayer

[river anvil]

this was before

[sand goblet]

these things keep their power when you pick them up also

[river anvil]

ive been playing i think since beta

i remember that after i joined they made jungle wood produce a different wood

so sometime around then

[sand goblet]

ah yeah, I was waaaaay before that

we didn't even have crafting

there were like 20 different blocks

[river anvil]

yea mp was around then

lol thats like before indev

[sand goblet]

yeah, way before indev

file:///home/gdude/.local/share/multimc/instances/FTB Presents Skyfactory 3/.minecraft/screenshots/2019-03-16_22.53.58.png

oh

wut

why

that was odd

[river anvil]

lol

[halcyon siren]

enderio is probably my favorite mod

[river anvil]

isnt that tinker

[sand goblet]

you surely know what this is, kazo

yes

[halcyon siren]

at the very least my favorite energy mod

[river anvil]

i forget what its called

[sand goblet]

tinkers construct

[river anvil]

i havent gotten far in this modpack

[halcyon siren]

smeltery

[river anvil]

yes that

[sand goblet]

yeah it's a smeltery

[halcyon siren]

wow gdude

[sand goblet]

fuelled with molten redstone

[halcyon siren]

couldn't wait 1 more day for day 1337

smh

[river anvil]

im just setting up basic vanilla things

[sand goblet]

haha

[river anvil]

like stable food and farms

[sand goblet]

I get my food from withers

[river anvil]

i got 2 sheep from the hills and now my farm is huge

[sand goblet]

the first item on my hotbar there is a wither crumb

[river anvil]

its just a sheep incest farm

[sand goblet]

full food refill

[lilac glade]

I need to get back into modded Minecraft eventually.

[sand goblet]

and then some

the place is whitelisted mostly because it's entirely members from my own discord server

and the server is small

or so I'm told

[lilac glade]

Too much to do, not enough time in the world.

Such is life.

[river anvil]

i need to cull the sheep

[sand goblet]

I was looking for the changelist for 1.14

almost everything in it has been done by modders for literally years

[river anvil]

yea i wish they would just stop updating it

its beating a dead horse

[lilac glade]

Because Mojang doesn't wanna touch Java with a 10-ft pole.

[river anvil]

just fix bugs and add things that should be added

wdym java is still updated

[sand goblet]

map for good measure

[lilac glade]

Everything is CPP now, except the Java edition.

[river anvil]

my map mod sometimes doesnt save when i exit

[sand goblet]

this is journeymap

the most popular minecraft mod on Curse, as far as I know

[river anvil]

i forget what im using

but its not that

this is my base rn

that big wood thing is my sheep pen

its huge

[sand goblet]

I'm actually the sole admin of the JM Discord community

:P

[river anvil]

and its still full

[lilac glade]

That's a lot of base

[river anvil]

whats JM?

[sand goblet]

JourneyMap

[river anvil]

oh

[lilac glade]

I'm surprised you didn't automate sheep culling.

[river anvil]

the thing is my enitre real base is that thing the top left

i wouldnt know how to do that efficently

but its a giant light house with multiple floors

and tons of storage space

[sand goblet]

this is the base belonging to the guy that hosts the server

doesn't look like much, right?

wrong.

[lilac glade]

IIRC, ExUtils2 has some magic blocks that allow for certain ages of aninals to pass through.
It's either that or Blood Magic.

[river anvil]

i dont have either of those i think

[sand goblet]

ExU has ethereal glass

[lilac glade]

But that lets all animals through, no?

[sand goblet]

all or none, yes

RFTools has the shield

[sand goblet]

you could use that I guess

[lilac glade]

I'm talking babies vs adults.

[river anvil]

this is my chests

[sand goblet]

Ah right

no idea

[river anvil]

got a ton

[sand goblet]

well, you've seen my storage already

[river anvil]

:/ again im still not far along

[sand goblet]

:P

[lilac glade]

Nah, there's a block in a mod that doesn't take power but blocks animals from passing through based on age

[river anvil]

i got a ton of dogs now

[sand goblet]

Have you done any of draconic evolution?

like, ever

[river anvil]

nope but ive seen it, dont think its in tekkit

[sand goblet]

it's extreme

[river anvil]

tekkit is fairly chill compared to a lot of packs

[sand goblet]

this is the draconium chest

[lilac glade]

DW20 has a nice meat maker automation in one of his let's plays.

[sand goblet]

a bit over the top

I think you'll agree

[lilac glade]

I personally don't like the Draconic Chest.

[sand goblet]

draconium chest

they really should have called it draconic

[river anvil]

i forget what mod it is

[sand goblet]

lol

[lilac glade]

Really doesn't fit in with the "extreme mods"

[sand goblet]

I mean it's not useful to me in the slightest

I have refined storage

[river anvil]

but there is this mod that has this thing where you can store a ton of items

its like a server or something

[lilac glade]

Yeah, you get a lot of storage and cooking ability, but RS is easy enough to automate as well.

[sand goblet]

you're thinking of applied energistics

or refined storage

the latter is what this pack has

[river anvil]

i forget what its called

yes

that

i think

[sand goblet]

whoops :P

[river anvil]

thats it i think

its huge

[lilac glade]

320K Draconic Nuggets?

Storage drawers?

Looks like it, with that 35K draconium.

[river anvil]

skyfactory is entirely in the sky right?

[sand goblet]

yeah storage drawers

yes it's a skyblock

[river anvil]

like skyblock

ah

[sand goblet]

I'm moving some of the super high storage blocks into uhh

quantum storage units

they're like barrels, but waaaaaaaaay bigger

essentially infinite

[lilac glade]

Pretty much.

[river anvil]

im not sure if youve done this but im making a chicken farm

[sand goblet]

wait right there

[lilac glade]

Assuming you've reached creative at this point?

[river anvil]

where you put chickens in a small tube and then put hoppers at the bottom

[lilac glade]

We should open up another Minecraft server /s

[river anvil]

and grab the eggs and maybe kill them

id join that

what modpack

[lilac glade]

You missed the first iteration by, what, 8 months?

[sand goblet]

CHICKENS

[river anvil]

nope not that :p

[lilac glade]

More Chickens

[river anvil]

ill show you when im done but i did this on an old world once and it was super laggy

[sand goblet]

oh, I know what you're into then, ref

[lilac glade]

What am I into?

[lilac glade]

Gendustry

[sand goblet]

don't mind the hole in the wall, chisels+bits doesn't work well on linux

[lilac glade]

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes

[sand goblet]

there are actually bits there

[lilac glade]

Gimme

[sand goblet]

good ol' cloches

or caloshes as the girl I'm working with says

[lilac glade]

Cloches are the shit

[sand goblet]

I'm also not using storage drives for fluid

you can see the demonic barrels behind the gargantuan flux storages

:P

demonic drums, rather

[lilac glade]

Barrels are nice, though.

Compact and good-looking visually.

Y'know, not as compact as drives, but I don't mind a floor of barrels.

[river anvil]

agh i ran out of glass

i need to find a desert now

be easier if i had a saddle since theres horses everywhere :p

[lilac glade]

Saddles are still uncraftable, right?

[sand goblet]

that reminds me, ref

you remember the furnaces from mystic agriculture

specifically the supremium one

[river anvil]

yes they are in 1.7.10

[sand goblet]

well it's no longer the best furnace

[lilac glade]

wat

[river anvil]

i remember when i struggled to get string and wool

[sand goblet]

well, this mod has been updated

[river anvil]

now all i have is string and wool

[lilac glade]

Isn't there a last furnace type?

[river anvil]

sheep and flax everywhere

[lilac glade]

yeah, there it is.

I remember that.

[sand goblet]

that wasn't there last time I played this

but it turns out

the acceleration wands work in mechanical users

so you can make these things even faster

I dunno why you would though

RS can't keep up

[lilac glade]

Alright, let's go have some fun.

[sand goblet]

haha

I like these

@lilac glade What's your IGN again?

actually, DM me

[lilac glade]

...Refisio?

[sand goblet]

is it? :P

I can probably get you whitelisted

He might want you on the server though

[lilac glade]

Yeah.
The only usernames that don't match my user are Origin (yesiamref) and League (We are Number 1)

[sand goblet]

Ah right

[lilac glade]

Oh, and Twitter.

[sand goblet]

yesiamref, yeah

[lilac glade]

Couldn't secure that, and Twitter won't give up inactive account names.

[river anvil]

i should set up turtles

[sand goblet]

I like OpenComputers' stuff more

[river anvil]

what do they do

[sand goblet]

computers yes, but also turtles (robots), tablets, drones, nanomachines, servers, goggles

[river anvil]

wat

[lilac glade]

Was OpenComputers updated, or is still the slightly buggy mess that it was when we last played together?

[sand goblet]

I mean it's still 1.10.2

[lilac glade]

Fair enough.

Still no Python for OC?

😛

[sand goblet]

No :P

[river anvil]

wth is this

[sand goblet]

@river anvil

drones! (SS from Google)

[river anvil]

this looks like a dope island

wow

google?

[lilac glade]

A nice randomly-generated island.

Nice.

[sand goblet]

yeah I googled a screenshot

[river anvil]

oh i thought google took that screenshot :p

[sand goblet]

they're basically quadcopters

[river anvil]

ugh the forestry for minecraft backpacks are annoying

they keep picking things up and putting it in the backpack

so i have to get them out of my inventory and take the item out

[lilac glade]

I personally gravitate more towards IronBackpacks.

IIRC, though, both kinds of backbacks can be unloaded by shift-rightclicking a chest with enough space.

[sand goblet]

yeah I like Iron Backpacks

[river anvil]

yea i dont really have a choice :/

only backpacks in this modpack

[sand goblet]

no bag of holding?

[river anvil]

aw heck a chunk didnt load right in the middle of my base

ill check in a sec

oh apparentally i have alchemical bags

i remember using those before

also canvas bags which i dont remember using ever

[sand goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFgtIziShmc

[river anvil]

need diamonds for them though

the alchemical thing

havent found any yet

ive also found like no gold which is weird

this world is really weird

[stark prawn]

That is because alchemy is balony.

[river anvil]

:o

ugh i got completely distracted from my farm to make my chicken farm

@sand goblet

this is what i was talking about

imagine this but hundreds of dozens of chickens

[sand goblet]

yeah, I know 'em

[river anvil]

it lags hard but if you go int here and swign a sword you can get tons of meat and get tons of eggs

is this not original?

i thought i came up with this

[sand goblet]

it's a well known method

[river anvil]

hm alright

anyways

[river anvil]

computer craft is pretty cool actually

fun to mess around with

not really practical

wish there was a way to make 8bit music in it

could probably program something like that if i had enough talent

[grave phoenix]

there's opencomputers

[river anvil]

yes we discussed that :o

[grave phoenix]

oh k

[river anvil]

not in my modpack

[grave phoenix]

what modpack?

[river anvil]

tekkit legends

tekkit but for 1.7.10

so i like it

[river anvil]

what is the chr() and ord() equivalent for lua?

[ivory tiger]

@sand goblet on one server, my friends and I made a cobble generator with 4 manipulator arms

And we filled all those arms with maxed out speed upgrades

we unironically were producing cobble faster than we could compress it

[river anvil]

yikes

[sullen thorn]

Where’s the toucan?

@river anvil https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34406844/converting-a-number-to-its-alphabetical-counterpart-in-lua

[river anvil]

okay cool thanks, ill try that out when i load up minecraft again

[stuck oracle]

Why has the servers logo changed?

[tame terrace]

fun how you guys manage to find the one channel that this hasn't already been answered in

it's st patricks day, @stuck oracle

[stuck oracle]

Ah my part of the world doesn't celebrate that

[tame terrace]

mine neither.

but we're an international community :)

[night crown]

and right on time, the question appears again in #python-discussion

[stuck oracle]

lol

well what did you expect 😛 @tame terrace

st patricks day is a mostly obscure thing that happens in a few countries/ states that are either irish or have a large irish community

[plucky monolith]

saint patrick is a g

[stuck oracle]

It's like trying to expect the server to know all the other saint days...

[tame terrace]

mostly obscure, lol..

[stuck oracle]

Unless you are super catholic you won't really know them

Yeah mostly obscure lemon -.-

New York and Ireland arent the capitals of the world

[cobalt otter]

It’s green!

[proper dune]

I dont think St Patrick's is really a thing outside Ireland and the US

[cobalt otter]

Wow

Yeah not here in Australia

[stuck oracle]

I dont even think St patricks day is that much of a thing in the US

Outside of places with a lot of Irish people

I dont think anyone in like uh.. idk Kentucky? celebrates it?