the code isnt wrong because the identical code works on users, samples, and patients
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
sullen thorn
stark prawn
check dmesg for killed
sullen thorn
I ran it again and it hasn’t crashed yet but it seems stuck
If it crashes i’ll check (when it crashes)
it ran out of memory :/
imma try this
ok well i used to not like them, but now i fucking love generators
shell blade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUzB0L0mSCI this is really neat
bleak lintel
Oh I saw that the other day
What I found really interesting was how they said they could recover human speech from behind sound proof glass just by watching a small object on the ground
shell blade
i wonder if intelligence agencys have already been messing around with this
tulip palm
i imagine they'd be the ones who discover that sort of thing, really.
bleak lintel
It was a thesis developed by some MIT guys
it was discovered back in 2014 so I don't doubt intelligence agencies may have seen it
It was relatively well reported about in the media as well
but I don't know how useful it would be considering how close in proximity you have to be and how the quality of the audio is
You might as well bug the area before going down this route
tulip palm
there's probably better solutions, yeah
shell blade
no but it might provide useful in like an aftermath scenario
bleak lintel
what do you mean?
shell blade
maybe there was like a bombing or something it might help
bleak lintel
well
potentially
but I doubt it
you have to have a pretty stable camera from what I understand
since it relies on movement of pixels
shell blade
at the end they were using 1000fps
bleak lintel
yeah
sullen thorn
it relies on the change in brightness of pixels :/
bleak lintel
right, but the change in brightness is based on the movement.
if you have a shaky camera then the pixels will be changing sporadically
sullen thorn
hmm yes? but swear nothing actually moved a pixel - like it moved less than pixel
bleak lintel
yeah
sullen thorn
oh yeah but it will still suckwith a shaky cam
bleak lintel
yes
nothing moved a pixel, it moved fractions of a pixel, but enough for the camera sensor to detect a change in the brightness/hue of a pixel
shell blade
yeah but lens and cameras are getting better all the time so this could be a potential thing same as being able to process this better too
sullen thorn
i dont think theyre getting that much better
sullen thorn
ok but its still not good enough to do this at a useful level
bleak lintel
You may not get a quality increase but you will get a range increase
shell blade
yeah not nessacarily on phones but they are in commercial use i'm a photographer so i follow this stuff closely
bleak lintel
Yeah, phone cameras are pretty limited
but holy moly, commercial quality is skyrocketing
just think about how much more range you could get
and as you get more range it may be more useful as Madi said, you can observe a potentially hostile area from a safe distance away
I think that is when we will get attention
shell blade
yes that is because of cell phones forcing the commercial market to stay well ahead of phones otherwise the industry would die
sullen thorn
at range you then have to worry about air distortions and stuff (like from heat)
or a little smog or whatnot
im not really convinced by this yet (in a non specialised or close up environment)
bleak lintel
I doubt it has a huge use either, it is still very interesting and I don't doubt that intelligence agencies will have toyed with this
sullen thorn
true
bleak lintel
after all, it is just a research paper by some MIT people from 2014
what I did like though
was that in their paper they included a graph at how efficient different materials were
shell blade
tissue was less than green tea box wtf
sullen thorn
how tf did they get readings from a teapot
shell blade
but you would think that the tissue being less dense would have more vibration movement
bleak lintel
wait no, was going to say harder to see pixel change but I don't think this is a graph of how much vibration was detected
yeah it is interesting
shell blade
is this the same guys who did the plasma grapes?
bleak lintel
Veritasium made a video on it
but this project specifically was not related to Veritasium
he just did a video on it
it was by MIT with some guys from Adobe iirc
shell blade
cool cool
sullen thorn
on sound related stuff
what i really wanna see was adobes voice photoshop thing
they showcased it and i havent seen it since
and they showcased it like years ago
sullen thorn
idk its kinda just disappeared - i think adobe like gave up on it or something
but like why
so many ppl wouldve used it
shell blade
is the thing where you could make it sound like anyone?
shell blade
i think their were a few companys that held ip in this area so that might be whats happening
tame pier
This is the slowest time of day for the server
halcyon siren
you in Oceania Tron?
shell blade
its Thursday here
rough sapphire
yeah im in Oceania..
grave phoenix
river anvil
where do i ask about github?
dusky orchid
what do you want to ask about it?
river anvil
license formatting, ive seen it as a .md but also as not, what should it be?
dont know where i should be asking
dusky orchid
LICENSE
river anvil
not license.md?
dusky orchid
nope
river anvil
okay
dusky orchid
i think on creating a new repo, you can just pick a license in the list and it'll automatically add the LICENSE file for you
river anvil
i had pycharm make a new repo 😕
dusky orchid
that works too
river anvil
agh writing the readme is kinda annoying
tame pier
I have a PR for you
dusky orchid
for who
river anvil
ive got so many commits that are just me being stupid and making and deleting files
tame pier
That PR still cracks me up
river anvil
i dont get it :o
tame pier
Added one line "This is a very important project"
To the top of a readme
With no formatting
No description in the PR
While Hacktoberfest was going on, which counted the number of PRs
tame pier
GitHub humor is the best humor
Like this one I discovered by chance while looking at pyusb: https://github.com/pyusb/pyusb/pull/205
river anvil
so what does getmac do
river anvil
whys it need that much code for getting the mac address
tame pier
Because there is variability between platforms
river anvil
500 lines
tame pier
Windows vs Linux vs BSD vs. Darwin (Mac OSX)
river anvil
for getting a mac address?
tame pier
Some platforms (cough BSD and Windows) don't have a file you can just read
If you're going to get a MAC for a network host, usually you consult the ARP table
On most Linux distros you can just read /proc/net/arp and parse the table using a regular expression
However, this is apparently not the case on all Linuxes, so then you parse the output of arp <ip>
But the version of ARP distributed with OSX is different, so different arguments and different parser
Oh yeah and Windows
river anvil
that sounds way more complicated than it has to be
tame pier
Welcome to the system's world
river anvil
eugh
tame pier
The land of esoteria
river anvil
i was thinking about making a game or something fun to mess around with after this project
tame pier
Oh yeah?
river anvil
dont have any ideas though and just thinking over some stuff is complicated as heck
tame pier
Yeah games are hard man
tame pier
Worked on a game with some friends a few years back: https://github.com/drspaceman0/Python-Game
tame pier
Partially rewrote it in Python 3 last year: https://github.com/GhostofGoes/Python-Game-Reloaded
Yeah, if you want a fun little project then definitely use PyGame
It makes a lot of the hard shit easy
river anvil
what do i run
river anvil
yea the thing is i dont wanna make a cheap little 2d game or anything i want something mendable and fun
something like minecraft or something but thats way beyond my skill level
tame pier
Think I was focused on the refactor
tame pier
rofl
Most of it isn't my code
The stuff I worked on was controller inputs in addition to a keyboard, which worked brilliantly and seamlessly, and networking, which was a cluster** and didn't go anywhere.
Anyway, it's a OK example using PyGame
tame pier
2D dungeon crawler
river anvil
oh
yea idk i wanna do something sandboxy i guess
something like that but i dont even know where id start or how
tame pier
Well it's worth it to spend time thinking through what it's going to be
Hacking on stuff is fun but what you end up with is what you see in that repo
river anvil
wdym
tame pier
Like, spending time thinking through high-level design
Type of game
What's the camera perspective?
Genre
Character types
river anvil
wdym by character types
tame pier
Is it a static protraganist? Is there a levelling system? Is there gear? Customizability?
Depends on the genre
river anvil
so if python isnt good for 3D what would you suggest
tame pier
It's not hard or terribly complicated to do the design
river anvil
yea thats always the easy part
tame pier
It's just important to have a clear vision before you start getting into the technical design
tame pier
Haha yeah but it's suprisignly common for devs to jump into class hierarchies before they even know if the player will have levels
C++
tame pier
C#
tame pier
Unity and Unreal
tame pier
schoolwork
anyway
If you really want to do 3D Unity is probably the path of least resistance
Once you get through teh tutorials and have a grasp of the basics you can iterate and have fun
river anvil
in all honesty, id rather do something in python
even if its painful
why were you suggesting against python specifically?
i know its not great for 3d but idk why
tame pier
Well, I'm not aware of any good 3D stuff for Python
It's a high-level interpreted language
3D graphics are computationally expensive and often run on GPUs which means interacting with a driver at a low level
Hand waving a lot here since I'm not a graphics guy
river anvil
yea, i dont have a plan for something complex, just something fun and simple
probably wont be releasing it
ill look into some 3d libraries for python once im done with the github for my current project, thanks for helping, KE!
rough sapphire
java
river anvil
okay, will do!
wdym by java @rough sapphire
my friends learning java and i tried it once
too much for me
the errors
oh god the errors
shivers
tame pier
Java has a certain elegance
It's like a mansion filled with beautiful things, if only they worked like you expected and you could remember where they were
vestal briar
Doesn't metal sound like trains
sand goblet
yes it does.
rough sapphire
gasp
rough sapphire
all strings go to heaven..
When my time comes to Join with the LORD, I want to be able to Exit this life with code 0
tired osprey
So you don't want to be murdered?
summer rampart
when I go, I want to be SIGTERMed, not SIGKILLed
tired osprey
So you want to be EXTERMINATED?
gentle moss
no, just terminated.
tired osprey
Aw
gentle moss
i'd rather be kill -6'd
rough sapphire
stark prawn
3 >> 1
tired osprey
@gentle moss why (and how) do you want to be aborted?
tired osprey
If it spams you with sigints you might hang up eventually though
sand goblet
so today is international womens day
Lots of stuff on the twitters
It's great and all, but I remembered something from last year and decided to check up on it
sand goblet
oh, weird, that timestamp did not look so recent lol
sand goblet
yeah so that's what I was going to mention
gentle moss
and Richard Herring, the comedian, has been retweeting them all
sand goblet
that's what people were complaining about last year
stark prawn
@gentle moss 19th of november
gentle moss
saying "It's November the 19th, are you doing anything special?"
sand goblet
it's the 19th, yeah
but I remember people being annoyed because of the UN
the UN recognises international womens day, but november the 19th for them is international toilet day
gentle moss
oh really?
sand goblet
there was a press briefing on that day
gentle moss
is it international toilet AND mens day then?
stark prawn
The UN has a list of officialy recognized theme days? 
sand goblet
they used it to talk about the International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women
gentle moss
:D
gentle moss
so good
the one that gets me is the people who complain that there's no "straight pride" parades or w/e
well, dude, there's nothing stopping you
but it's going to just be like 20 people looking awkard
sand goblet
well the idea of pride in general doesn't make sense in most developed countries
there's a reason Ireland has one singular LGBT pride parade in a year
stark prawn
Here it seems to have become just another party.
sand goblet
(because LGBT is considered normal)
gentle moss
i mean yeah, in most developed countries
and now it's less for being recognised and more pushing actual rights issues
gentle moss
some very homophobic people round 'ere
sand goblet
or, well, developed, the UK isn't a country
gentle moss
we're giving gravity a run for its money as we fall to the bottom of the list
stark prawn
So does the Netherlands 
sand goblet
So does denmark
stark prawn
Prins Pils
sand goblet
Denmark passed a law around 4-5 months ago
They decided to classify ignoring your partner under emotional abuse and you can now go to jail for 3 years for it
I mean okay, I guess it is modern, but goddamn is that dumb
gentle moss
depends how much you ignore them i guess
sand goblet
I mean that kind of doesn't matter
gentle moss
does not taking the bins out count?
sand goblet
putting that into words is super open to abuse :P
gentle moss
i imagine if it went to court you'd have to be mega awful to get 3 years
that's got to be an "up to" 3 years
sand goblet
well we're talking about a country where it's not illegal to escape from prison, so maybe
gentle moss
well quite a few countries have that law
because it's not unreasonable for a person to want to seek freedom
"human nature"
stark prawn
That's still legal here unless it's a company car :/
At least make it like Belgium where it is illegal to smoke when there are kids in the car.
summer rampart
should I commit my # TODO s
worn kite
Can you resolve them now? Yes - Resolve them and the commit. | No - commit them so that you don't forget it
my opinion
summer rampart
thank you, I shall commit and further procrastinate on implementing the TODO
brisk crane
Hey. Bash question. SO I use git bash for windows as my CLI and I was learning some commands earlier, including "du" which can be used to do a disk usage check on files. In my cli, I did "help du", nothing came up. Tried man du, nothing came up. But when I did just du to see if it actually worked, it began to list off details of my ENTIRE filesystem. How come there's no help or man page for it though? Do I need to update something?
tulip palm
try du --help
brisk crane
that worked
tulip palm
i doubt git bash would have man pages for stuff
tulip palm
well, bash client doesn't necessarily mean it comes with all the programs you'd typically find on a linux system
if you want to use linux commands on a windows system, try the windows subsystem for linux. i've never used it but it seems like something you might be interested in.
brisk crane
I have it installed but don't use it because it was causing issues with a game project for a game jam I did last month. Something to do with github and file path names on a windows OS.
I didn't realize that git bash wasn't the whole package... huh.
tulip palm
well, bash itself is simply a shell/scripting language. you can run programs with bash (man and du are both programs), but you'd have to have those programs installed first.
and i'm not sure that's possible or even recommended with git bash. at that point, you may as well use WSL or a different OS.
brisk crane
I'd like to use my ubuntu dual boot but I have a couple critical problems that involve hardware that I can't fix until I've got some disposable money, so until then, I'm stuck with Windows. Sucks.
tulip palm
huh, what's causing it?
brisk crane
Thank you for the info. I'll see if I can get my ubuntu subsystem up and running like I have git bash.
Neither of my USB wifi chips work with ubuntu, and my second monitor immediately turns off upon booting into ubuntu. I've spent easily 6+ hours trying to fix each problem
tulip palm
oh, how bizarre.
brisk crane
Yeah. It's been hugely frustrating tbh.
tulip palm
have you tried any other distros?
brisk crane
Yeah. I tried kubuntu and 3 different LTS versions of Ubuntu.
tulip palm
oh damn, fair enough.
vestal briar
I like xubntu the best
sand goblet
I always had issues like that with Ubuntu in particular
WiFi cards not having drivers are a big part of why Linux is tricky though
vestal briar
My laptop is good though
Linux is production ready for avrage people apart from marketing/support and wifi drivers i'd say
stark prawn
brisk crane
@sand goblet That's a really big problem for me. Like I shouldn't have to try 4 different "linux compatible" USB wifi cards hoping that one of them ACTUALLY works as advertised. One of my cards was actually advertised as linux compatible, and the driver appears to have stopped working way back on Ubuntu 14.x LTS. Like there were old threads where people were trying to fix it and shit and then just... Nothing since.
sand goblet
No
that's the wrong approach to have
almost every wireless card is "linux-compatible"
the problem is that the drivers aren't included with the standard distribution
meaning you need to install them yourself
there are actually two good reasons for this
the first one, which is the simplest, is that there are honestly a lot of wireless cards
brisk crane
Right, and I did. And the drivers simply didn't work, just like they didn't with basically everyone else years ago.
sand goblet
and they all have varying chipsets
Well it's not always just installing drivers, and ubuntu is notorious for being bad at drivers anyway
(the second reason is licensing if you're wondering)
People tend to have more luck with distros that make you do the initial install yourself
for example, stuff like arch
but that can take a while to do
brisk crane
I'm extremely hesitant to attempt a complicated distro like Arch with my knowledge. I'm still an amateur with this stuff. In normal circles, I'm the guy that knows the most about computers by a long shot, but once you dive into complexity of any advanced subject, I'm lost.
sand goblet
don't get me wrong
arch is not difficult to set up
it's a time investment, but there is an excellent install guide on the wiki
the linux knowledge is helpful but you don't have to be a guru master
If you have a machine you're going to completely reinstall with linux sometime, stick arch on a USB and give it a go
also, what USB wifi cards are we talking?
brisk crane
I have a laptop that's an ubuntu machine. Problem is, I never use it.
Edimax EW-7611ULB and uh... Hold on for the other one
sand goblet
The driver for that one is dkms-8192cu
or rather, 8192cu-dkms
it's on the AUR but not the official repositories
meaning you would probably want to install an AUR helper like yay first
brisk crane
The other one is a netgear A6200
sand goblet
that one is rtl8812au-dkms-git, also on the AUR
brisk crane
Would it be possible to install that thing on ubuntu?
I don't really know what I'm looking at. Is it a tarball?
sand goblet
the AUR is the Arch User Repo
Packages uploaded by Arch users for the rest of the community
the one I just mentioned is being built from a git repo, here https://github.com/zebulon2/rtl8812au-driver-5.2.20
you may be able to build it yourself
if you have build-essential, make and linux-headers
brisk crane
Another problem I have is that without internet on my machine, it's difficult to get dependancies. Lol...
sand goblet
it looks like rtl8812au-dkms should be in the package repos though
well, grab an ethernet cable and plug into your router temporarily
brisk crane
Can't, housing setup doesn't allow for a physical connection
sand goblet
move your machine temporarily?
brisk crane
The router cannot be plugged into.
sand goblet
what ubuntu are you?
brisk crane
I thin k my dual boot version is 18.04 LTS
sand goblet
grab the deb
put it on a USB
then you can install it with sudo dpkg -i /path/to/.deb
there are other packages it depends on, https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/rtl8812au-dkms
if you don't have any of them then you'll also need to download them and put them on a USB in the same manner
whatever you happen to be missing
brisk crane
I think I'll boot into it, tether to my phone, and dl the depends and see what happens...
This is crazy. I might actually be able to use my ubuntu 😮
sand goblet
:P
brisk crane
I wasn't expecting to get this problem fixed.
sand goblet
It's just a case of knowing where to look
brisk crane
Will update in a few on my phone.
Well, my phone doesn't seem to realize it's plugged in or something. Its charging but not letting me tether, and also not popping up as a device on Ubuntu. Despite me switching the phone to force MTP in developer settings. Wut?
God, I swear it's one thing after another...
Got it. Moving on...
Working...
Holy shit it installed. Let's see if it works...
Should I reboot? @sand goblet
sand goblet
If it doesn't work, yeah
brisk crane
Rebooting then
Nothing. No changes.
Wifi settings says no wifi adapter found.
@sand goblet any ideas?
brisk crane
Ok. Well, I appreciate your time and your trying to help. That's further than I've previously gotten with any other attempts, even though it didn't appear to do anything in the end.
vestal briar
Anyone know how to get images from the discord cache on linux?
tame pier
river anvil
hey, KE, how do you keep track of ideas you have for projects?
river anvil
@tame pier sorry for ping i just wanted to make sure you saw that i asked
tame pier
hahaha I literally sat down as you pinged
tame pier
I use OneNote, sticky notes, index cards, graph paper, and other random pieces of paper
tame pier
OneNote is pretty nice because it's relatively freeform
You can type anywhere, arrange text however you like, dump images, videos, etc
river anvil
wdym
yea
i got a lot of ideas for my next project
i should at somepoint learn how to make a basic notepad thing
tame pier
Really you just need to find a system that works for you and how you think
tired osprey
developmet operations, basically automating everything that happens once the programmer types git push
so running automated tests for example by using CI or deploying things to a server etc
river anvil
oh
tame pier
@tired osprey Fedora package needs an update 😉
tame pier
lol
tame pier
passwordNix
tired osprey
no
okkayy so
i have to uuuuh
make an srpm import it to fedpkg git commit push and build
i think
tame pier
That seems right
tired osprey
i do remeber that there was a command to download the sources automatically
what was it
....
spectooool
woop
tame pier
oh yeah
tired osprey
mock is running......
package is building
@tame pier do you want me to also backport it or is rawhide + next release and upcoming okay?
ill just leave it at rawhide for now if you want me to also backport it ping me ill look at it once i get up
night o/
tame pier
Both TravisCI and Appveyor are failing on this test: https://github.com/GhostofGoes/getmac/blob/master/tests/test_samples.py#L128
I have no idea why
It works fine locally on Ubuntu 18.10
Well, actually, they're not failing
They're freezing
It gets to that test, then eventually times out
It's definitely the test_windows_10_interface test that's freezing it, since other tests will run before it without issues (this is why random order is a good thing)
Commenting out the code in the test fixed the builds
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
river anvil
haha my friend was looking in inspect code at his coding site because i was interested how they judge the code and it has a link for applying for a job
tame pier
that's pretty common actually
river anvil
is it
tame pier
I think paypal was one of the first to do it
river anvil
hm i just thought it was funny
tame pier
Yeah
rough sapphire
I think they're saying..the sky is the limit?
gentle moss
they could've tried a biiiiit harder
gentle moss
yeah
river anvil
did they really remove michael from the office?
ever since he left the show has been incredibly boring
can someone tell me if he ever comes back or should i just stop watching
tame terrace
he does return for like a single episode. I don't know if he was "removed" from the office, I think carell just decided to focus on making movies instead
which was probably a good career move
river anvil
probably but he was one of the funniest characters there
tame terrace
sure.
river anvil
do you think otherwise?
tame terrace
nope, nobody does. everyone loves carell
I think the first season after he left had a pretty slow start but that it did manage to find its footing again
so it's probably worth watching the rest.
river anvil
yea i think im on that one
river anvil
if anyone shouldve left i think ryan shouldve a long time ago
hes really overstayed his welcome
tulip palm
@bleak lintel i sorta want to use dvorak but at the same time i have to do most of my exams on a laptop with a qwerty keyboard and i wouldn't want to mess that up
gentle moss
i think keeping steve carell in The Office would have just been mean to the entire world
well, the entire world that doesn't like the office
sand goblet
Yeah it would have been mean to me, I agree
sand goblet
Ah man, @gentle moss
puts hand on shoulder
What a world we live in
Where racists and sexists are so heavily empowered by the movie industry
Am I right?
Here's what may or may not have been a quote from someone involved with Captain Marvel
I don’t need a 40-year-old black girl to tell me what didn’t work about A Wrinkle in Time
Actually that's not the real quote, the quote actually uses "white dude" but you see my point :P
Amusingly enough, many white male critics have been denied access to the preview screenings as well
gentle moss
lol
sand goblet
The quote in question is from the actress Brie Larson
Some outlets are spinning it as a cry for diversity
I wonder when people will realise diversity also includes men and white people
I'm mostly being ironic here but it does bug me how often there is this apparent discrimination lately :P
You get diversity by including the minority more often
Not by excluding the people you don't like
That's why we have djangogirls and similar efforts to include women in STEM fields
They're doing a great job
rough sapphire
👀
gentle moss
i mean tbh the initial problem was just how white and male all that shit was
Oscars, f.ex
and it's not like BAME are now being over represented
it's just they're being represented at the expense of the already over represented
gotta take those seats from someone
and tbh gdude i was going to make the joke that it would be mean to the entire world because The Office is garbage
¬_¬
rough sapphire
Yeah
I don't get why people are reacting to attempts at diversity as white discrimination
Lets be real here. There will be virtually no organization, institution or project that wont have a white person, a male or both
So why worry about the lack of white male representation in stuff?
brittle rampart
Can someone help me find a good desktop computer? I was looking at this one but I am not sure
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-i5675-A957BLU-PUS-Inspiron-Processor-Graphics/dp/B071ZZF7FY/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1519655277&sr=8-4&keywords=dell%2B5675&dpID=41bfYn7PTTL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch&linkCode=sl1&tag=root0d5-20&linkId=1c0a8a0f0b02fc67aabdbb50d2e91410&th=1&psc=1
lilac glade
@brittle rampart Sorry I'm late, but what is the usecase for this?
brittle rampart
Home/Little gaming
lilac glade
Do you mind assembling the computer yourself?
Seems like the Amazon listing you posted doesn't include the graphics card.
If you don't mind that, I have a parts list that doesn't include peripherals or an OS.
All for $89 USD less than the computer you listed.
pine vector
i would run far away from that listing. hiding the GPU bit in legal disclaimer, confusing listing on CPU (title says i5, elsewhere says AMD Ryzen)... 🚫
gentle moss
it's hard to find good bang for buck for a gaming machine off the shelf
it's nearly always better to build
lilac glade
Almost impossible, really.
pine vector
agreed.
lilac glade
There's always something specced lower somewhere in the machines you buy in a box.
gentle moss
and not having a discrete graphics isn't always bad. i've built machines with AMD APU's that manage 60fps in some games
suitable for a casual
lilac glade
I'm gonna post the list regardless.
I actually hooked one of my friends up with a Ryzen 5 2400G for his budget build.
Works like a charm for him.
gentle moss
could even drop off the CPU cooler, switch the 2TB for a 1TB and 500GB SSD
assuming that's not an OEM cpu
lilac glade
gentle moss
do they still do them?
lilac glade
Ryzen does CPU/Cooler combos, but I can't really attest to them.
I've used 2 Hyper EVO 212s and have been happy with both of them.
gentle moss
i've always used after markets, i don't really rate the ones that come with them
but they do the job providing you're not fussy or going to rag the thing
i do believe that every build should have an SSD though
might as well slap yourself in the dick every time at boot without one
lilac glade
See
I wanna say you're wrong
I really do
gentle moss
i mean my current rig upstairs only has a 64GB SSD C:\
but just that is enough to make the computer less awful
lilac glade
My work machine doesn't, but my desktop has a nice 256GB SSD in it.
I personally don't notice a huge difference in practice.
gentle moss
"soz guy, brb reboot" in a game
you can tell who has an SSD and who doesn't
:D
i think i've got a 500GB for my games and media in my home PC too
i just don't want to fuck with my windows install yet
¯_(ツ)_/¯
lilac glade
I don't feel that.
Might be anacdotal, but normally, people don't have to reboot their entire machine during a game, unless it's Anthem×PS4 levels of brokenness.
gentle moss
ARMA can brick stuff quite bad
sullen thorn
the game?
gentle moss
i've got a weird audio setup and that sometimes gets funny, easier to reboot
yes, the game
lilac glade
How many people have you're weird audio setup? :P
gentle moss
few.
when a reboot takes 10 seconds it becomes the first solution
:D
as it is when i have to do tech support
sand goblet
I'm waiting for powerful ARM desktops to be a thing
Probably won't upgrade again until then
sand goblet
Dunno
gentle moss
i don't imagine the good ones are publically available
sand goblet
Kimsufi has some I think
gentle moss
no i meant physical
gentle moss
i figured most the ones in use are custom built or something
steel fox
Re: SSD I think the game can make a huge difference there. With wow for example there was a difference in minutes for hearthing into dalaran with ssd vs hdd
gentle moss
yah, 100%
large games that load a lot of stuff it's definitely a boon
anything megatexture based
errr... virtualised texture based
megatexture is tm, c and even r id Software.
gentle moss
for some reason i expected the full res to load in
sullen thorn
nah thats as good as it gets im afraid :/
gentle moss
that was a virtualised texture joke for HDD users
bit high level but eh
wrong crowd
sand goblet
Whatever floats your boat
river anvil
i wish there was a guide on when to commit and what to put in the commit messages
sullen thorn
i mean most of my msgs are added semicolon or fixed spelling
no one actually reads commit msgs tho so i wouldnt worry about it
river anvil
whats late download mean
rough sapphire
lol
i repeat commit messages over and over and over again
its a bad habbit i know
river anvil
ew ive never met someone who does that but im sure everyone knows that guy
dont be that guy
river anvil
i think he just repeats the same commit message as last time
sullen thorn
so... a blank commit msg?
river anvil
is that possible
rough sapphire
no
as in like every commit message i have "Continued rewrite of app"
its just each commit does so many different changes
i see a broken part or a typo and i just fix it right there
river anvil
ack
i often will fix typos in bigger commits
its not like they need their own commit
rough sapphire
yeah
idk why, but any time i try to fix a bug or implement a feature, i break the production build
always, without fail
river anvil
i have a terrible habit of fixing one problem and not testing anything else
rough sapphire
ill have completely broken software for the majority of the time, punctuated by perfect stable releases with no bugs whatsoever
yeah
sullen thorn
do indonesian ppl have like church or any other commitments they gotta do in the morning
river anvil
how do i explain libraries to my friend who's never used python before
river anvil
okay, thanks
brittle rampart
@lilac glade would you buy this?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07N1XBCCR/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?smid=A3JS2199GQLB8L&psc=1
with 8 GB RAM, 1 TB HDD+256 GB SSD?
rough sapphire
seems legit
@brittle rampart am i not good enough to ask?
im offended
im hurt
lilac glade
No.
lilac glade
brittle rampart
It's only $800
rough sapphire
at which point it would be better to shop for a gaming pc that costs a grand
brittle rampart
My budget is $1000 including monitor
rough sapphire
ohh
lilac glade
Are you comfortable building your own?
rough sapphire
yeah, just what i was gonna suggest
brittle rampart
No, don't know how to build
rough sapphire
it would be a fun project :)
youd need a case, motherboard, power supply, ram, cpu, and graphics card
best bang for your buck
plus youll have a machine all your own
brittle rampart
I know that stuff but the wiring and things
rough sapphire
theyre colour coded and fit one way
youll be fine
if you can hook up a dvd, you can hook up a computer
lilac glade
It's not the worst project in the world. Most of it is just putting parts in places.
rough sapphire
yeah
brittle rampart
Will considerate it
rough sapphire
yeah
laptops are waay worse cuz of the custom components, delicate parts and tight spaces
but desktops are made for everything to be swappable
think about it
brittle rampart
Also opinions about this monitor?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07N1XBCCR/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?smid=A3JS2199GQLB8L&psc=1
rough sapphire
wrong link?
brittle rampart
Wrong link
brittle rampart
rough sapphire
the reviews mention dead pixels recently after purchase
id...be wary
from what im seeing, it seems to be a really good monitor for the price, but its one of those cases of too good to be true. people are complaining of glares, poor build quality and especially dead pixels
its...risky
lilac glade
I'd also definitely be wary of that machine.
brittle rampart
Any other alt
lilac glade
Again, I'd personally recommend building your own.
It'd be much better and much cheaper in the long run.
Not many people that make prebuilts good.
rough sapphire
yeah
brittle rampart
Thanks:)
rough sapphire
decide on the specs you want and start hunting for the best parts that match that spec :)
and heres a tip, splurge on the gpu, cpus arent really used for that much in gaming
you can go cheap on the power supply, so long as it meet the wattage and is reliable
motherboards determine the different specs you can have and the low level (UEFI) features youll get
8gb of ram at the least to run games comfortably
heavy jackal
Unless you play dwarf fortress. That wants a good CPU.
bitter jolt
¯_(ツ)_/¯
river anvil
anyone have a tip for writing
waxen jay
on computer or paper?
river anvil
computer
waxen jay
plagiarize
river anvil
wdym plan
river anvil
okay, ill try that in the morning ven, its late, gn
gentle moss
hi i'd like to hire my recovery service to recover my fucking brain
summer rampart
maybe the service did such an excellent job he wants them to fix his brain too
gentle moss
haha
it's okay, i threw the laptop across the room before i could cause serious damage
@robust sierra @tired osprey
stream coming soon
because they put effort into their burgers
and specificially their fries
god i want some
i've only had their fries, burgers have bread around them
next time i'm in london i should see if they can make me a gluten free one
a.k.a. burger on a plate
tulip palm
but is it better than f2g?
gentle moss
f2g is only good because we're lazy
but it's a good thing to be good
i had 2 f2g yesterday with a pre-cooked packet of chicken
the best
that's what it is
does it bother you that much?
:D
it's the best in class.
tulip palm
i usually have f2g with precooked chicken too
because i am the embodiment of laziness
gentle moss
yeah, it's a nice easy "oh i can get all this from the corner tesco/coop" meal
i mean you've got fat, carbs, protein, ketchup
all the major nutrients
ketchup being a key part of any diet
tulip palm
ketchup, one of the fundamental nutrients in a healthy balanced diet
fuck you beat me to it
gentle moss
yeah because i'm old and have experience with nuestrientsststt
tulip palm
you silly old chont
gentle moss
^_
sand goblet
The heck is f2g
gentle moss
ow my eye
sand goblet
Food to go? But you're British
gentle moss
nope
sand goblet
Significant other?
gentle moss
i can't eat gluten, the meal deal can go fuck itself
tulip palm
i agree with ven there
gentle moss
it's a discrimination
tulip palm
i love that £3 meal deal. prawn pasta salad + crisps + whatever drink = good breakfast
gentle moss
a half loaf of bread costs £2.50
yeah
if i want 20 chicken nuggets? no cheaper than £2.50
sand goblet
Nice nuggets are like 5 euro here for 26 so I don't feel bad for you there
gentle moss
nice nuggets
tulip palm
nice nuggets
gentle moss
i mean any nuggets
tulip palm
i'm on mobile right my typing speed is bad
gentle moss
mcdonalds commited themselves to having "real" chicken
sand goblet
Bitch I only buy wholegrain nuggets
tulip palm
free-range nuggets
robust sierra
mayo > ketchup btw
sand goblet
I don't think I'd use mayo on its own for anything
I like it in things
like.. coleslaw
gentle moss
tuna
sand goblet
Nobody likes tuna
tulip palm
i eat it rare :^)
gentle moss
that's actually a thing with tuna steaks
flash fry the outside and leave the inside raw
tuna steaks are great with some kind of tomato "stew" reduced
dusky orchid
tuna steaks are great
that's how that sentence should have gone
lol
honestly, unless you turn them into charcoal, tuna steaks are amazing
a bit expensive here, but still amazing
gentle moss
yeah
they're a bit pricy but they're good
same for swordfish
swordfish steaks are like tuna steaks ** tuna steak
tired osprey
@gentle moss did I miss any yelling yet?
gentle moss
no, i'm currently setting up stream
tired osprey
nice nice
gentle moss
i'm getting fucked by clyde on my pc
a direct message error o_O
wtf?
ah, updates i guess
https://www.twitch.tv/beehivekay/ - stream are go @robust sierra
sand goblet
@gentle moss The code jam stream is in less than an hour bud
tired osprey
who do i watch
rough sapphire
eyo
sullen thorn
anyone know in requests, if i make a post request and dont declare content-length, will the module put that header anyway?
rough sapphire
no clue, better ask in a help chan
im installing bluestacks onto a windows vm running on linux, just so i can get grindr to work
the things i do for some fine ass
they just had to completely depend on google play services didnt they
thus, lm19 -> windows 7 vm -> bluestacks emulator -> grindr
lerl
sullen thorn
was it worth it?
rough sapphire
nope, didnt work
bluestacks threw a hissy fit
this would be soooo easy if i had google play services
but i will not let the data vampires devour my digital soul
i spend 3 years. 3 long years scouring my internet presense from the net
not gonna go back any time soon
sullen thorn
lol that sucks :/
rough sapphire
yeah
it really does
tried installing an older version, tried using my moms old phone, tried running it on an emulator in linux
sullen thorn
all this just so you can run grindr?
i mean theres probably a reverse engineered python api for it like tinder by now lol
just use that
sand goblet
Thst would probably break the terms of service
sullen thorn
now u saying that cuz you're against him doing it, or cuz we shouldnt be discussing it here?
(i havent slept in like 24h so my mind is hazy and i genuinely dont know which)
rough sapphire
lol
i am antigovernment and anticapitalist
so unless theres a damn good reason to, i dont really have much respect for the law
and for things like terms of service
lol
good luck with that
sullen thorn
(dont tell gdude that - or lemon)
rough sapphire
lol
the thing is, rules are pointless
good people will follow them anyway, bad people wont
all rules do is give the power hungry dicks excuses to act like dicks
sullen thorn
mhm... but in this case lemon can just kick them
rough sapphire
and give those in power the ability to abuse the system as they see fit
sullen thorn
so not quite as unfair as you make it sound
rough sapphire
lemon could kick anyone rules or no rules
cuz hes an admin
and he has been granted that power by virtue of being server owner or promoted by a server owner
even if this rules say admins werent allowed to be dicks, enforcing that rule is entirely up to the admins themselves
see the issue?
its the same in any government, institution or organization
sullen thorn
m8 youve lost me lol
rough sapphire
sorry xD
just explaining why i dont believe in rules
rules, when it comes down to it, means nothing
im not saying might = right is how things should go
im saying its how things are, and nothing will change that
sullen thorn
ok that makes more sense
sullen thorn
ok the rules are pointless makes less sense
thats kinda like whats the point of cleaning your room cuz its just gonna get dirty again
rough sapphire
i mean think about it, why are rules important if its up to the admins how they deal with them?
or politicians or the police
sullen thorn
well hopefully in democracies you can vote on them...
rough sapphire
hahaha democracies are a lie
i dont think theres a single country that has true democracy
sullen thorn
but also this isnt a democracy here - its more like we came here, and its their server, so we can follow their rules or they can kick us
seems fair
rough sapphire
yeah
true
not so irl tho
i mean think about it, you might think democracy exists irl but it doesnt
sullen thorn
yeah rl isnt doing too well :/ canadas not doing too bad 😃
shell blade
Have you heard about the snc lavalin scandal happening right now everything is broken every where