companies dont really care
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
river anvil
tame terrace
the biggest pirates are usually the biggest consumers. the idea that piracy is a dangerous problem to the industry is probably bullshit.
river anvil
stuff like netflix is a great piracy reducer but they dont get many more iconic or good shows on there anymore
and they pollute it with their originals
river anvil
netflix
summer rampart
I wouldn't want to buy a song off Apple Music because they can pull it off anytime anywhere and I lose access to it
tame terrace
their originals are the best content they have
river anvil
they spam the front pages with their original tv shows and movies
most of them are bad
sure some of the big ones are good
tame terrace
some are bad. many are phenomenal.
river anvil
like stranger things or black mirror
but you shouldve seen when they first launched
theyre only just now starting to get better
river anvil
ive been netflix sub for a while
tame terrace
and everything else I can pay for legally.
river anvil
and the originals are and were horrible
tame terrace
that's your opinion, man.
river anvil
summer rampart
spotify and netflix does it good because it's more accessible, and convenient than pirating
sand goblet
@river anvil I'm not really sure what you're asking me though
sand goblet
your question is phrased like "is it OK to emulate music?"
summer rampart
that's why you get prem spot
sand goblet
also yeah, spotify premium is dirt cheap
river anvil
im asking do you think it is okay to pirate other media because you own it
premium is pretty cheap but so am i :^)
sand goblet
from my own moral standards? yes
river anvil
okay
sand goblet
I mean, like I told you, there have been situations where I had no choice but to do that
river anvil
god im glad i dont have a physical version of spore
the anti piracy on that is horrific
sand goblet
In the case of Skyward Sword for the wii, I bought the game, realised my Wii could no longer read dual-layer DVDs, had to download a rom and stick it on a USB hard drive so I could actually play it
river anvil
im also considering pirating halo reach because my copy & key dont work for some reason
sand goblet
the reason I couldn't rip it myself is because wii discs are written in reverse
dawn nebula
really, that's weird
sand goblet
Nah, it wasn't the copy protection
dual-layer DVDs showed up later, they're just DVDs that have more storage
tame terrace
I just gotta point out. house of cards, orange is the new black, narcos, stranger things, the crown, series of unfortunate events, ozark, mindhunter, godless, altered carbon, master of none, w/ bob and david, daredevil s1 and luke cage, grace and frankie, love, GLOW, american vandal, trailer park boys, russian doll, sex education and big mouth... fucking abstract: the art of design? chefs table? ugly delicious? my next guest needs no introduction? lilyhammer?
sand goblet
a lot of the original model wiis have messed up lasers
tame terrace
how many netflix originals does it take for it to be considered a decent amount?
I could go on
sand goblet
Oh man lemon
sand goblet
did you hear a netflix-produced movie won an oscar?
river anvil
just saying :/
sand goblet
or was it more like 3 oscars?
river anvil
big mouth? really?
tame terrace
which movie?
sand goblet
Roma I think
they were talking about it on breakfast TV yesterday
having a discussion about whether it being produced by Netflix means it should be disqualified from the Oscars
which was nuts
tame terrace
big mouth? an animated show with like 12 of the funniest comics in the world in it? yes.
river anvil
yea i dont really like edgy things
tame terrace
but a movie is a movie so that sounds stupid.
sand goblet
I mean it met the requirements
it was long enough, it showed in an LA cinema for more than a week..
river anvil
yea a lot of those really arent my thing
the only netflix original i like is black mirror to be honest
tame terrace
that's fine, but they're all objectively impressive shows that can compete with anything made by any other network.
river anvil
and i consider stranger things to be a rip off of another show that was a rip off of a creepypasta
river anvil
but i dont have much base for that so im not going to argue it
candle cove
it just seems very very similar to me
but i dont have a basis for it so im not gonna argue it lol
sand goblet
haha
river anvil
lol
river anvil
not really
tame terrace
the show is still fantastic even if it found its inspiration somewhere else.
sand goblet
Yeah, true, lots of things are inspired by other things
tame terrace
really everything is inspired by something
sand goblet
see: silicon valley, the various offices, the IT crowd..
river anvil
again, netflix's humor/style of writing just really isnt my thing
its usually very awkward and or edgy
they also dont feel professionally producded
they feel like indie films
but thats just a nitpick
tame terrace
your opinion sucks, but you're entitled to it.
river anvil
i do like the comedy special ones
but i chalk that up to the comedy not netflix itsself
:^)
thats right
tame terrace
well it's a good thing netflix subs are optional
river anvil
i still watch shows on it
sand goblet
I actually have netflix but I never use it
tame terrace
but personally I think there's great value in a sub. I do agree though that I wish I could just have a single streaming video sub that had everything
river anvil
usually just the office or reruns of ncis 😕
sand goblet
netflix in europe is basically inferior to everything else for the stuff I watch
river anvil
yea thatd be great
tame terrace
ncis. I can see why you think those shows suck if you like that.
river anvil
too many good shows get removed from netflix
i cant believe psych got removed from netflix
i never said i had tase
sand goblet
Netflix doesn't have infinite licenses for every show
river anvil
yea i know
sand goblet
probably because they couldn't get them
tame terrace
I just want spotify for TV shows
sand goblet
but it does annoy me how little they have of some things
river anvil
companies are too stingy with their rights
sand goblet
lemon is in norway so he could get HBO if he wanted
tame terrace
music companies used to be, too.
river anvil
and often multiple companies are involved in one show or movie
sand goblet
like if you take steven universe
tame terrace
it doesn't even work on linux
sand goblet
HBO has the entirety of that
netflix has... the first season
out of 5
and netflix's episodes are in the wrong order
river anvil
honestly this is a very controversial opinion but,
i think steven universe wasnt very fun after they introduced peridot
got boring for me
tame terrace
I hated the entire show from episode 1 so there you go
sand goblet
but if you're not into slice of life then SU is not for you
river anvil
yea i dont like shows that go from nice sitcom like style to dramatic style with a ton of drama between people
sand goblet
the whole thing is about a kid trying to grow up while being stuck in the middle of an intergalactic war
river anvil
which is a situation
sand goblet
there are light moments but the meat is not in those moments :P
although the melon people are the best
don't @ me
river anvil
wow why not :(
sand goblet
:>
river anvil
:<
river anvil
gl
sand goblet
and I am a loooot more productive
sand goblet
you should probably do that
river anvil
its almost dawn :o
tired osprey
Did you verify that email address with the huge email regex?
tired osprey
Why not a huge regex :(
shell blade
django doesnt use regex anymore
tired osprey
sand goblet
this thing is huge
sand goblet
not that email regex
tame terrace
@shell blade you're probably mixing up the fact that django 2.0 doesn't require regex for its urls.py anymore
internally, it does still use regex for email validation
and it's still pretty monsterous
but it has to be.
sand goblet
👀
worn kite
🔥
👀
shell blade
well i thought we were passed this god damnit
tame terrace
heck!
sand goblet
heck.
tame terrace
wot the hekk
sand goblet
I hang out with so many people that say heck
tame terrace
I hang out with exactly zero.
sand goblet
sand goblet
:>
Alright nice, I successfully wrote up a setup flow for my django app
Nowhere near as painful as I thought it was gonna be
that >= is terrible, lol, should just be >
shell blade
i gotta go to work cya guys
lilac glade
teach me how to html pls
rustic crater
<html>like this</html>
stark prawn
It's easy, step 1: Download npm, step 2: Download webpack.
lilac glade
sand goblet
I'm workin' over here right now https://github.com/gdude2002/gserv.me
mostly under base
Taking a break for now though
sand goblet
That kinda makes them not similar :P
vestal briar
I can kinda understand all of the django code in your project
Like dutch to german I suppose?
rough sapphire
dude you have a secret in the settings file
"Don't tell me that there's a secret in the settings file; I knooooow. I'll fix that when I actually have something usable." - the readme
viral crystal
hey you have a setting in your secrets file
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire thatsthejoke.jpg
sand goblet
:>
The thing isn't in prod anywhere so the secret doesn't matter for now
I just saw a dettol ad, and the first thing they do with it is spray a brass door handle
Someone doesn't know their materials..
sand goblet
granite lake
Hm
stark prawn
tired osprey
@stark prawn do i want to watch it or will i just get sad if I do?
stark prawn
it's k
tame terrace
Ryan Reynolds will carry that movie
it's gonna be fun. thanks to him. justice smith, however, looks like a terrible fit.
kind of a weird choice for lead since he won a raspberry for worst supporting actor for the only other real movie he has ever been in.
river anvil
this looks cool but a lot of the CGI still looks creepy
sullen thorn
IT IS
sullen thorn
I take it u missed the first trailer
tame pier
Yes
river anvil
i really hate companies who use the $#.99 everywhere, even when theyre tryign to say something is of value
its like they dont even know why theyre doing it they just do it
youre supposed to do that because it makes people think something is cheaper than it actually is
halcyon siren
saving that cent though 😏
rough sapphire
it's because of tax reasons
rough sapphire
yes it is..look it up
river anvil
not in america
and certainly not for what i was referring to
also this article which was the first result i got proves you wrong, im going through other articles right now
do i have to say anything more @rough sapphire
all i can find on it is that its a psychology trick
it doesnt help at all with taxes
river anvil
this is so beautiful
river anvil
whats rathergood?
gentle moss
ahhh nice, he reuploaded the classics
fyi requires flash
probably better to browse that youtube channel ¬_¬
rough sapphire
the g stands for god
river anvil
gdude loves elephants
rough sapphire
I thought the g was for groot
stark prawn
timid vigil
sand goblet
@gentle moss Feels kinda token to open with that doesn't it
gentle moss
ye
shell blade
coding to aqua is probably the best thing ever
sand goblet
"Ahm a python girl, in a python woooorld"
knotty ginkgo
no u
rough sapphire
lol
knotty ginkgo
just use premade things 
rain spindle
I'm making it for a neighbour
shell blade
@rain spindle 😦
rain spindle
hahaha
rough sapphire
git gud
lost hornet
Does anybody have a recommendation for a mailserver?
Even better would be a guide recommendation
tame pier
Microsoft Exchange
gentle moss
Exchange is probably the easiest
but it's better to like, idk, use a 3rd party provider
configuring a postfix server is not fun
in general running a mail server isn't fun
river anvil
use yopmail :^)
gentle moss
for a start you need to prime the IP address so it's not treated as junk 🙄
stark prawn
river anvil
stop
gentle moss
o_o
sand goblet
That's great lol
stark prawn
Yes, the new starter pokemon.
stark prawn
These are pretty cool imo
sand goblet
lilac glade
No
Bad crossover
lilac glade
I don't remember this, as I didn't play that damned game.
sand goblet
It had a dream eater system
Where you had dream eater pets that fought alongside you and gave you bonuses and you played with them and stuff
And there was even a dream eater arena for pokemon style battles
rough sapphire
I need some game recommendations.. I tried the new hitman but it's very limited hours of gameplay.. v.v
rough sapphire
VR? like with a headset and everything?
sand goblet
Beat saber in one-saber mode
rough sapphire
I tried Creed on Vr.. it's pretty cool
the movie is pretty nice too.. saw some Japanese people cry.. I was surprised
lilac glade
Beat Saber and Superhot have been my go-tos since I picked up my headset, but I've been looking for other titles to play.
tame terrace
my two favorite VR games so far - for exactly the same reasons
justin roooilaaand
although the latter is far better than the former.
tame terrace
maybe one day you'll get over your pointless dislike of rick and morty because "you don't like the fandom", too.
tame terrace
maybe I misread that then
shell blade
@sand goblet you don't like rick and morty
sand goblet
yes I don't like it
tame terrace
I was under the impression you were holding its fandom against it
sand goblet
but I don't dislike it
shell blade
wow you think you know someone then this happens
tame terrace
rough sapphire
tempting.. so far been using vr headsets are arcades...
oak tangle
I've never seen an episode of R&M in my life, should I?
oak tangle
Maybe I will
rough sapphire
it's great for casual viewing.. reminds me of Futurama
stark prawn
I don't really see the comparison between those.
tame terrace
they're both animated? that's about it.
@oak tangle if you're into comedy it should more or less be considered mandatory.
rough sapphire
they both ask a lot of deep questions.. then there's a plot..something humorous and gripping in between
shell blade
archer is really good too
rough sapphire
except Futurama is more happy go lucky.. R&M is bit nihilistic..
tame terrace
futurama is family friendly
oak tangle
Oh, cool, it's on Netflix
shell blade
k-bye
oak tangle
rough sapphire
aww I thought it was a video link
oak tangle
Still had to turn off the Dutch captions
lilac glade
Has an S4 been announced?
gentle moss
i put off watching R&M for ages because of idk
people telling me it's great and stuff
they told me it was great too much
but they were right, it's pretty good
tame terrace
yeah gosh how dare people recommend a show that's good.
stark prawn
Dutch netflix can be really disapointing for subs 😦
tame terrace
I had that relationship to game of thrones, actually
tame terrace
I didn't start watching till like season 3
gentle moss
GoT, The Wire, Sopranos
stark prawn
So many anime with only japanese voice/dutch subs
tame terrace
maybe you should stop having that
gentle moss
well i did, for those shows
it's just people keep telling me stuff is good and i watch it and it's actually bad
i just need friends with better taste
tame terrace
don't we all.
gentle moss
to be fair, i am watching through every stargate again
and that show is proper bad but i love it
sand goblet
Man, it sure is hard to get risers for my desk
at this point maybe I should just get a new desk that isn't so short
gentle moss
books
sand goblet
sigh. :P
gentle moss
has it got big feet or smth?
sand goblet
it's got like
it essentially has 3 legs
one of them is a normal leg
the other 2 are very wide
they're like poles on the floor
these do have screwed-in feet which I assume I could replace, but I'd need to balance it with the other leg
hm, although I guess since these are feet, they'd fit in a normal riser too..
gentle moss
oh snap
sand goblet
I guess that solves my problem :v
gentle moss
few blocks of 2x4
gentle moss
hmmm
sand goblet
If I had wooden legs I could just screw longer risers in
gentle moss
i know how heavy those desks are so i doubt it'd fall off some blocks of wood
sand goblet
Yeah it's pretty heavy
sand goblet
Yikes
The amusing thing is this desk came with a matching set of drawers
The drawers are taller than the desk.
By about an inch
sand goblet
Yours matches though
gentle moss
oh, it's actually TALLER than the desk
i thought you meant like you couldn't tuck it under
gentle moss
wow
sand goblet
Thoughts on these colours? "Home" is active, "Blog" is hovered
sans hover
this is just my own project, not for anything in particular
gusty tulip
I like the second one more tbh, its cleaner
sand goblet
uhh
they are the same
:P
just I have my cursor over "blog" in the first
although I think I'm gonna change the hover to a darker background
sand goblet
I'm making use of PyDis' django-simple-bulma
BULMA_SETTINGS = {
"extensions": [
# Layout extensions
"bulma-divider",
# Form extensions
"bulma-checkradio",
"bulma-iconpicker",
"bulma-slider",
"bulma-switch",
"bulma-tagsinput",
# Element extensions
"bulma-badge",
"bulma-tooltip",
# Component extensions
"bulma-steps",
# Bundled extensions
"bulma-fileupload",
"bulma-navbar-burger",
"bulma-notifications",
],
"variables": {
"primary": "#7289DA",
"navbar-background-color": "#7289DA",
"navbar-item-color": "#C7D0F2",
"navbar-item-hover-color": "#C7D0F2",
"navbar-item-hover-background-color": "#647BCE",
"navbar-item-active-color": "#FFFFFF",
}
}
i only use bulma because i can't CSS :(
sand goblet
All I'm doing is modifying the colours
which will be added to a SASS file to be used to compile Bulma when I run collecstatic
then the compiled bulma files are automatically added to my static files
it's very convenient
gentle moss
nods
sand goblet
I'm using whitenoise which is where the .br and .gz and hashed files are coming from
gentle moss
css getting super funk passed me by
last time i used it was when the internet was static
:3
sand goblet
time for you to learn
gentle moss
yeah, now i have a valid reason to
my backend skills are good enough to actually make things now
:D
sand goblet
Oh hey, PyCharm is smart enough to understand what I'm doing here now
gentle moss
google chrome's spell checker still doesn't recognise loads of words
pisses me off
makes me think i'm misspelling something but nah, it's just not an entry
sonic night
thats was the last time when i used pycharm 
sand goblet
sand goblet
That wasn't the question I was asking xD
I actually made some more changes but I'm not at my desk right now
river anvil
you said which looks better right?
sand goblet
No, no
river anvil
oh
sand goblet
It's not which looks better because the hover is when the cursor is hovering that link
Hence, hover
rain spindle
Gdude is it just me that finds the Azure pipelines hard to access?
It's really annoying
river anvil
what
im still confused
i think the second hover you showed looked better than the others
was that not what you were asking?
sand goblet
Yeah that's the hover I went with
river anvil
okay
rain spindle
Have you ever tried circle CI?
rain spindle
I don't think it's any worse intergrated than Azure with github
And it's made for pipelines
Did you like using it?
sand goblet
All CI solutions are made for pipelines
I actually don't like Circle though
Artifacts are obscure and require logins for example
My favourite CI is actually Bamboo
rain spindle
Never heard of it haha
rain spindle
:/
sand goblet
GH actions will be nice when it's eventually out of beta I'm sure
rain spindle
Yeah, it would be
How do you even access your azure pipeline?
Everytime I visit the website it makes a new "organisation"
It's sooo strange
sand goblet
Orgs are like, all-encompassing
orgs have projects
projects have plans
plans have pipelines
I actually don't use azure right now
I used it for pydis
for better or worse, lemon has inherited that technical debt
rain spindle
Unlucky lemon
Since I only will ever use pipelines
I need something else.
And since I think getting away from gitlab is a good idea...
That's leaves me with circle .... sadly
sand goblet
Yeah, unless you set up bamboo you're kinda hosed
rain spindle
If I can figure out away to get those YAML files out,
sand goblet
or buildbot or drone
rain spindle
that's fine by me
sand goblet
but they're all self-hosted
I would probably host a communal bamboo if it wasn't so expensive
you can get a $10/year license but you only get 10 users ever for that price
gentle moss
dollars are useful as a global form of currency that everyone can sort of understand
a lot of currency is actually pegged to the dollar anyway
sand goblet
well it's usually far more expensive than that
but you can get that plan, and the money goes to charity
vestal briar
Just realized this is becoming my main discord server
tulip palm
this has been my main for almost a year 
royal lakeBOT
Server information
Created: 2 years, 1 month and 20 days ago
Voice region: vip-amsterdam
Features: VIP_REGIONS, VANITY_URL, INVITE_SPLASH
Counts
Members: 13,829
Roles: 39
Text: 106
Voice: 29
Channel categories: 13
Members
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bleak lintel
2 years, 1 month and 16 days 
sand goblet
Someone thought it had 3k earlier
You guys could just look at the invite in #welcome though
Count is there
tame pier
OpenBSD uses Python scapy to do it's regression tests...nifty
Makes sense but not what I was expecting tbh
worn kite
sleeeeep
worn kite
You should keep discussions in English here, so that everybody can read along.
river anvil
black actually does a pretty good job at formatting
double quotes arent my favorite but theyre objectively better so i guess im fine with them 😅
vapid bluff
so uhh
for some reason my computer thinks mp4s have something to do with pycharm now? o_O
river anvil
did you open it?
river anvil
what happens when you open it with pycharm though...
vapid bluff
river anvil
choose another app
river anvil
aw
cosmic quiver
tame terrace
river anvil
tame terrace
this comment gets it
river anvil
this is a bit uh creepy
tame terrace
you know we have more than one ot channel, right?
river anvil
yes but all the other ones felt like they were taken too 😕
sand goblet
"deleted discord images are saved in your cache"
that is how a cache works yes
prime example of why you don't use electron for chat apps
river anvil
cache isnt even encrypted or anything
river anvil
i dunno i think its a bit creepy
river anvil
because anyone could send an image and delete it quickly and itd still be on your machine
sand goblet
now you're not sending a request to discord every time you view an image
river anvil
doesnt seem like it clears completely too
sand goblet
it clears when it expires
that is a cache
every browser has one, everything using electron has one, most apps handling large numbers of images have them
river anvil
ive got images here from months ago
does a cache need to last longer than a couple weeks?
sand goblet
what discord should be doing is figuring out where the cached image is and removing it when the message is removed, but that's actually surprisingly difficult
river anvil
yea 😕
sand goblet
there's nothing creepy about this, anyway
it's a common thing to avoid using up all your bandwidth all of the time
river anvil
ill probably just clear it once a month, im glad i know about it atleast
vestal briar
Rip
tired osprey
Big oof by GNU there
vestal briar
Haha
summer rampart
what roles do you not understand?
rough sapphire
the Bot role
summer rampart
Everyone here is a Bot except you
rough sapphire
can I have a colorful tag..
I'd ike.. 'Official not Bot' please.. or something along those lines :v
rare pivot
:D who are contributors
How do you become a helper
Idk, some reading on roles on this server
dusky orchid
contribs are people who contributed to our projects on github 😃
things like our botto, or our site
dusky orchid
we're always welcoming more people to contribute 😃
plucky ridge
Although I will say currently we're on a feature freeze
We're currently working on rewriting out site to work with Django instead of Flask
So only issues or branches focused on that are being accepted/worked on
dusky orchid
we have seasonalbot too for those who are newer and want to try things with a lower quality expectation
dusky orchid
yep
rare pivot
I'm always looking for some projects to get experience on
plucky ridge
And we're always happy to have our community involved in what we do
dusky orchid
feel free to check the issue tickets out then and you might see something you're interested in doing
rare pivot
That's why I attend this discord's help channels. It makes me recall stuff I did not use in a while and learn stuff I did not know
oak tangle
I'm a better coder because of Hemlock helping out here
plucky ridge
I started out helping in another Python server that got absorbed by this one. I just love the language and love the community around it
I'm happy to help folks learn it
oak tangle
Hem, eivl, and I, and probably some others, were active on the Do You Even Python server
plucky ridge
Byte did as well
oak tangle
I got a bit sidetracked and disappeared before the merger
plucky ridge
Byte Commander and I were grandfathered in as helpers at the same time
dusky orchid
hahaha
oak tangle
Regret making me a mod now?
plucky ridge
Never
oak tangle
It's why I still have Ves in my nickname
summer rampart
I personally thought it was a play on Zap Vespa or something
oak tangle
Anyway, I really need to pick up that adafruit toy now
robust sierra
plucky ridge
@oak tangle I legit thought it was just another one of the Zappa kids
One of them is named "Moon Unit" for god's sake
sand goblet
Moon zoomies!
rough sapphire
G-unit
sand goblet
almost at 1000 days of signed commits (I think)
steel fox
Is there any type of like, docking station / splitter that lets you run a keyboard + mouse and 2 monitors into it, so you can swap whether their hooked up to a laptop / desktop - easily?
tame terrace
it's called a KVM switch
yes they do exist but it's a bit old school
you can't solve it with like Synergy or something?
steel fox
Government laptop so no, not really.
But also synergy doesn’t support monitor sharing I don’t believe
Basically I have my work laptop and my home desktop, but I can only work on my work laptop. I just don’t wanna keep unplugging and replugging everything
But kvm switch looks perfect, actually
gentle moss
synergy supports monitor sharing
i've run multiple PC's with multiple monitors off synergy
KVM switch, as lemon said, is probably your ultimate goal
you might want to look at network attached KVM's
if you want an extra level or extrapolation
steel fox
Think just a hardware one is fine. Don’t particularly mind pressing a button twice a day
dusky orchid
as old school as they seem to be, I feel like the only reason they haven't changed is because it's already solved the issue it's out to solve
kvm switches are good 👍
steel fox
Is there one that has like HDMI or DisplayPort in and has thunderbolt out in one of the ports?
river anvil
@tame pier i think pypresence put your project on their example board!
unless someone else made something with pypresence and called it astolfo
river anvil
oh nice
so in the pypresence docs when they say epoch theyre referring to PID epoch?
tame pier
What's that?
river anvil
so?
dusky orchid
@river anvil no, it's for discord epoch
the snowflake system is based on the epoch discord set, which is 1420070400000
river anvil
yea im confused too because i thought it was discord epoch at first too
but then KE said it was unix epoch last night
and then he talked about how he just got the time when the program was launched so from that i thought he meant program epoch?
im just confused
dusky orchid
ah i see
yes it appears it's just normal timestamp which is unix epoch
and i believe he means he gets the start time from presence script startup
the value, not the epoch
sorry for the confusion there
river anvil
oh does pypresence have a startup thing
dusky orchid
discord presence requires a start timestamp, and i assume he's just getting that from process start time
that's all, nothing fancy
dusky orchid
more that he's trying to be friendly
started_at requires the number of seconds ago it started
otherwise you'd need to manually send not the seconds count, but the entire timestamp
dusky orchid
i'd never touched the lib before, so had to check things
i just read source though because i was lazy
tame pier
oh right
import time
start_time = int(time.time())
Yeah, I take the time it started
That's what Discord uses to determine how many seconds you've been "playing"
steel fox
@tame pier buy me a kvm switch
tame pier
4th time's a ban
steel fox
😦
steel fox
You call it in update
tame pier
Call it?
river anvil
the only thing ive kept is the discordrpc variable name
modified everythigne lse
thats cool though
steel fox
Yay github
steel fox
I guess it’s official
tame pier
Wow d0x3d
shell blade
Congrats you beautiful lovebirds
tame pier
YES
Finally have my sample tests working
However, it's horribly redundant
Any suggestions for improvement?
rough sapphire
if I wanted to build this locally.. how would I figure out what dependencies to add
tame pier
Check CONTRIBUTING.md
python -m pip install --user -U tox
Create and source a virtual environment
pip install -e .
Someone contributed a clever method of testing the samples using unittest during hacktoberfest, but it didn't quite work
rough sapphire
fell asleep at the keyboard x.x sorry.. I'll check it out later..
tame pier
lol no worries
sand goblet
15ish dollars
obsidian hazel
I didn't noticed Panda3D has new look and major updates: https://www.panda3d.org
sand goblet
I used to get my domains with iwantmyname
but holy shit are they expensive
they want like 32 euros for .dev
rough sapphire
@sand goblet who did you get it from then?
sand goblet
I moved everything I could to cloudflare registrar
although I still have one domain with iwantmyname and one with namecheap
tough stratus
Oh hell yeah! A 3D engine that's not pyopengl that's been maintained since the middle ages
sand goblet
Dunno, I'd never buy a co.uk
Cloudflare charges at cost either way though
you won't find cheaper for any domain they support
candid anvil
sinful copper
is that the one where she's a con artist
no, that's a different one (title: The Hustle)
tame terrace
rebel is great but that movie looks terrible.
crisp sierra
https://i.redd.it/hyaohvqehqj21.jpg he's officially off the deep end
cobalt otter
idk
shadow nova
does it alternate every month or somethin
sinful copper
it was pink for valentines day event
february is over
this is the standard color
sullen thorn
is it possible to dual boot ubuntu and windows, and have them both use the same filesystem, and have them both have access to the same files on the hard drive?
sinful copper
you could keep all your important files on the windows drive and ubuntu can access it just fine
or just install windows 10 and use the WSL ubuntu instead of real linux ubuntu
then you don't even have to dual boot
sinful copper
ah
yeah, ubuntu can access windows partitions fine
ntfs read/write access has existed for ages
sullen thorn
there isnt any package i might want that would rely on EXT4 or whatever linux uses specifically? (that you can think of off the top of your head)
sinful copper
the only thing missing is there's no good fsck (fsck.ntfs just sets the flag to make windows run chkdsk next boot), but if you're dual booting that's not a problem
...your actual ubuntu filesystem should still be EXT4
sullen thorn
oh
sinful copper
just use the windows drive for all your media and documents and stuff
sullen thorn
im confused as to how the ubuntu partition accesses windows stuff then
tame pier
Give each OS it's own partition, then have a shared NTFS-formatted partition
sullen thorn
ok
tame pier
They're not restricted to their own partitions
sinful copper
I believe there's ext4 drivers for windows too, but i have no experience with that
tame pier
lol
vapid bluff
iirc there maybe some issues with rollback when youre dual booting windows/ubuntu and sharing drives
tame pier
Rollback?
vapid bluff
yeah something like the changes you make to the disk in windows get erased when you boot into ubuntu
forgot the reason why exactly
sinful copper
what
vapid bluff
lemme google real quick
sinful copper
as long as you fully shut down (never hibernate when switching OSes) it shouldn't be a problem
vapid bluff
man i cant find it but i do remember back when i was setting up ubuntu/windows dual boot i read something about that
dont newer versions of windows do like a semi-hibernate when you shutdown so the startup is faster?
tame pier
Yes
vapid bluff
at least on laptops
tame pier
But I don't see why all the disk writes would be lost as if they never happened
sullen thorn
crap :/ im on a laptop :/
sullen thorn
true
vapid bluff
yeah, sorry about the confusion, maybe im remembering wrong
sullen thorn
rn im trying to 2FA and save all my gmail accounts
so that i can log back into them later
tame pier
lol
sullen thorn
i have too many and it says i cant use the same number for all :/
sullen thorn
how does password manager help with 2fa?
tame pier
And have 2FA on all of them
sullen thorn
i have like 20
tame pier
lmao
vapid bluff
not quite the same but along those lines
also pretty old so things are likely better now
sullen thorn
ok so just dont hibernate - which should be fine cuz i never do that
vapid bluff
thing is windows might be doing a kind-of hibernate via 'fast boot'
so you'll probably have to disable that, to be safe
tame pier
Ok, this makes sense: "But it is dangerous to write to the partition of hibernated OS, because some of the FS tables are still in memory (well, in hibernation file but not in the FS), applications still have handles to some files and generally file system state is kind of unstable."
So basically don't hibernate or do the pseudo-hibernate thing windows does on laptops
vapid bluff
iirc, there's also another thing called Intel RapidStart that'll put the pc in a hibernate-like state after it's been in standby for x amount of time, but idk if that's os dependent or not or how it'll factor into a situation like dual booting.
tame pier
Intel Smart Connect
And RapidStart
And ThingThatISeeInMyBiosButNoClueWhatItDoesAndThereIsNoDocumentation
vapid bluff
lol
oh and then there's the Power Management settings inside the OS that could cause an automatic Hibernation
anywho, back to work on the codejam
sullen thorn
ok i should disable fast boot (pretty sure ive disabled it rn but ill disabled again when i fresh install)
and yeah power management i always change
tame pier
Oh that's why your name is green
sullen thorn
why?
vapid bluff
Jammers get a green name for the duration of the Jam
vapid bluff
Joyful Jaguars
it's going alright, we're almost done
gotta get in some last features and then testing/polish
tame pier
Which repo is yours?
vapid bluff
https://github.com/LargeKnome/code-jam-4 the files to run it are in the testing folder inside project
the __main__ file is basically gonna be one of those
tame pier
Not familiar with pipenv
How do I get it installed? Just pip install -e . while in pipenv shell?
Oh, wait, there's no setup.py
vapid bluff
pipenv install should handle it all for you
tame pier
yeah did that
vapid bluff
it's been a while since ive had to do all that stuff
pycharm does it all automagically
😛
tame pier
(code-jam-4) SuperUbuntu-14:code-jam-4$ python ./project/testing/test_cloppy_window.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "./project/testing/test_cloppy_window.py", line 5, in <module>
from project.windows.editor_window import EditorWindow
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'project'
that's really weird
i dont get any problems running it through pycharm
one sec
ok, i got it
pycharm runs the program by directly going 'path to pipenv python exe' 'path to script'
inside the pipenv shell you gotta do pipenv run python [path to script]
ok hold on, i actually tried that out, that doesn't work either
wat
tame pier
Yeah
vapid bluff
no idea what pycharm's doing differently
vapid bluff
i havent changed any configuration related to this stuff
tame pier
Huh it works in pycharm
tame pier
Editor needs CTRL-S
tame pier
Looks good so far tho