or maybe it's this shitty laptop
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
sand goblet
gentle moss
i need to break more things so i can fix them.
got a deep desire to take hardware to bits
gentle moss
send it over
sand goblet
can't, you'll have to come get it
it's a work laptop
can you just give me a new one
my boss says I can have whatever I want and I can only do my work on a macbook
lilac glade
But the sound on the macbook doesn't work?
lilac glade
sand goblet
well, coworkers
lilac glade
Ah, okay.
Forgive me for not being able to follow along, I was up between 2:30 and 4:30 this morning for no reason.
gentle moss
repairing macs is a hobby of mine
well i say hobby, it's deeply gratifying but in a BDSM sort of way
lilac glade
Now that sounds more like it.
sand goblet
I want a z-wave stick and a new raspberry pi
so I can install HassOS and be done with fucking smartthings
viral parrot
repairing hardware or software for mac @gentle moss ?
gentle moss
i spent 30 minutes once trying to figure out how to uninstall software
went through all the menus etc
viral parrot
drag it to the trash 😄
gentle moss
and you're just supposed to drag and drop it in the bin
the one thing you NEVER do with software on almost any fucking platform
the hardware is beee-ayyy-oootiful though
tough stratus
gentle moss
see, can't even have any consistency
shell blade
omg there is a game in the discord store called hacknet
sullen thorn
any of u ever work with the signal protocol/app?
worn kite
I got Hacknet for free from a Steam sale probably around half a year or a year ago
shell blade
i feel like i should try playing rocket league first since i joined the Rlbot lol
shell blade
I have many questions @gentle moss
gentle moss
we all do
shell blade
why do you only have 1 eye that is working?
how di you spill goop in your second eye?
what was the "goop" that you spilled in your eye?
gentle moss
i got it in my eye, but i was trying to type while in immense pain
shell blade
and what is a ddab?
sullen thorn
U need less hot sauce
You’re gonna end up like those guys in a million ways to die in the west
gentle moss
and no, i had a tiny bit of it on my finger and rubbed my eye after washing my hands
it survives through soap
shell blade
thats the worst i have done that eating hot wings!
shell blade
that sucks
gentle moss
had it since i was a kid, it's neurological not physical
shell blade
ohhh I seee
sullen thorn
so... which eye did u get it in?
shell blade
yeah come on conditonal logic lol 😃
gentle moss
supposed to be programmers 🙄
rough sapphire
i fucking love hot sauce
gentle moss
you and me both
gentle moss
i'm building a collection
rough sapphire
dank
sullen thorn
u want me to bring you some from barbados next time i go?
rough sapphire
always wanted to do that but I'm moving a lot and it's just not really possible
gentle moss
i have a specific list of sauces i want
Queen Majesty is next on the list
they're like 5/10's for heat but fucking delicious
shell blade
i use to love eating hot food now it just makes me feel sick
sullen thorn
why?
shell blade
i wish i knew
sullen thorn
go see your doctor - maybe they can help you 😃
shell blade
i feel like it is as you get older your body changes kinda thing
rough sapphire
what
sullen thorn
how old are you? (roughly)
sullen thorn
lmao
shell blade
im 29
sullen thorn
oh - yeah go to the doctor i think
sullen thorn
how limited? like its only $2 an ounce
gentle moss
that doesn't mean that it's mass production :p
gentle moss
last 2 times i tried to buy The Last Dab they'd run out of stock
rough sapphire
the dark souls of hot sauce
gentle moss
Last Dab
I got a bottle of it. It's fucking lethal shit man
I'd sooner eat a raw carolina reaper
sullen thorn
oh u want a specific one
rough sapphire
they call it the last dab because it fucking kills you?
shell blade
💩
rough sapphire
hello mati
gentle moss
it's park of the "hot ones" youtube series
rough sapphire
that's an Estonian name
gentle moss
where they got famous people to eat increasingly spicy chicken wings
rough sapphire
I love hot ones
gentle moss
so they formed their own sauce using Pepper X
sullen thorn
oh thnx
gentle moss
that one is super rare. limited runs and no room for bulk buying
mostly because pepper x is a new pepper and in limited production
lilac glade
Do it.
sullen thorn
what me?
gentle moss
yes, it's available right now dood.
again, just because something is available now doesn't mean it's not in limited supply
:P
gentle moss
i have it
sullen thorn
oh
gentle moss
it just took me a while to get it because of limited supply
gentle moss
i do
sullen thorn
can you go to #databases for a sec pls?
sullen thorn
is this how emojis are usually stored?
i always thought they had like a special image format dedicated to them
sonic night
they have
sullen thorn
oh - whats the format called?
sonic night
svg
sullen thorn
oh - thats not really special tho
sonic night
theese are usually stored at discord like:
"/assets/hash_code.svg"
sullen thorn
is that all emojis, or just discord emojis tho?
sullen thorn
is what i shared a spritesheet?
sand goblet
Yep
sonic night
that looks like a png for me
gentle moss
think back to shitty old consoles that used sprites
sullen thorn
it is png, but also its for a mobile device, so ig they dont really need svg
sullen thorn
oh yeah how do they seperate those?
like they just have a special algorithm dedicated to it?
sullen thorn
hmm ok ig theyre all rectangles so that works
gentle moss
it's interesting that we now use a not too dissimilar technology for virtual texture mapping
MegaTexture(tm)(c) and all that shit
sullen thorn
yeah reminds me of the texture files in clash of clans
gentle moss
early megatexture was shit though. you'd do a flick 180 and it would've not loaded in the full resolution tiles of terrain or w/e
drove me nuts in ET:QW
sinful copper
@gentle moss I doubt that they did the actual design work like that
gentle moss
no, but it's how it'd likely be stored
sinful copper
sure i guess it depends on what you mean by 'actual sprite sheet'
gentle moss
true
sinful copper
fun fact: the reason there's only one goomba sprite (that mirrors horizontally for its walk cycle) is because it was one of the last enemies designed and they were running out of space in sprite memory
gentle moss
:D
that's cute
it's interesting to see hacks and compromises made in early video games when you couldn't just throw hardware at it
or just crazy shit like the fast inverse square root
float Q_rsqrt( float number )
{
long i;
float x2, y;
const float threehalfs = 1.5F;
x2 = number * 0.5F;
y = number;
i = * ( long * ) &y; // evil floating point bit level hacking
i = 0x5f3759df - ( i >> 1 ); // what the fuck?
y = * ( float * ) &i;
y = y * ( threehalfs - ( x2 * y * y ) ); // 1st iteration
// y = y * ( threehalfs - ( x2 * y * y ) ); // 2nd iteration, this can be removed
return y;
}```code from Quake 3 Arena
sinful copper
i saw a paper on that recently, apparently that's not the ideal value for that constant
sullen thorn
lol my favourite "hack"
i = * ( long * ) &y;
whats wrong with that tho?
hows that evil?
gentle moss
that's not the hack
sullen thorn
no ik, but idk why its evil
sinful copper
the evil part is using random integer math to work with floating point values as float
the data access itself can be done with a union, the pointer cast isn't essential to the hack
sullen thorn
ohh i didnt see y was a float
gentle moss
treat the float as an int then subtract that value
for a faster computation than using a lookup table or w/e
idk, it's a bit high level for me.
stark prawn
It trades accuracy for speed
gentle moss
i also think there's still like speculation about who came up with it
stark prawn
Some say it's carmack, others say it's way older
gentle moss
Carmack would sure do something like that on there.
i miss his id software keynotes
something would be on, in, around or about "there" within 2 sentences
sinful copper
another interesting thing about the mario 1 design
the original level design sheets got released at some point, and it was done on graph paper
and the graph paper has special markings for three levels of platforms - i.e. the ground and four and eight tiles above the ground
and most maps put platforms on those tiers instead of in other random vertical positions (iirc four tiles is the highest point mario can jump to from the ground)
gentle moss
i'm imagining a literal game of paper mario now
put the graph paper on a treadmill
cut out a mario
hours of fun
sinful copper
fun fact: the reason mario can't go backwards in mario 1 is because there's no separate storage for level state
i.e. blocks broken, coins collected, etc
gentle moss
out of screen out of mind
sinful copper
that information for the on screen portion of the level is stored in video memory
gentle moss
so i assume if you were to hack it to make it possible to go backwards stuff would just return to default state
stark prawn
If you manage to get to warp point but the previous one is stll on the screen, if you use the previous one you go to the destination of the next one
sinful copper
I think there's one extra screen of video memory, but yeah
i thought it was the other way around
i.e. you use the next one before it's fully on screen and it goes the previous one
i saw speedrun where they went down a pipe to go to the area that was normally up a vine in a previous part of the level, to avoid waiting for the vine animation
stark prawn
Ah yes, they push mario forward to be able to enter it before the new warp location is loaded
gentle moss
breaking games is the best part of speedrunning
sullen thorn
lol
lilac glade
Hey @gentle moss Thanks for the Valentine's day dad joke.
My family's now angry at me, but it was worth it.
shell blade
I def cant find anything hidden with a spectrogram if any one is wondering
also 'Merry Christmas' was the first message sent by sms
i feel like it might be a christmas song too
rough sapphire
i have evolved
never knew properties were so handy
all my old code looks...pedestrian, amateur now
shell blade
you gotta getter to setter
rough sapphire
lol
shell blade
i come up with the stupidest shit sometimes
shell blade
i think the coolest thing about oop is magic methods
rough sapphire
ooh whats that?
shell blade
its like manipulating methods to do things you want
rough sapphire
ill do a quick scan on ddg
ohhhhhhh
so you can override the built in operators for a specific object!
rough sapphire
im up for an example if you want :)
shell blade
k gimme a second
rough sapphire
sure thing
any idea how i can make the logic for this clearer? https://bpaste.net/show/d7a1bc8e98e2
maybe splitting it into 2 methods....
shell blade
class User:
def __init__(self, fname, lname,age):
self.fname= fname
self.lname = lname
self.age = age
def __repr__(self):
return f'person named {self.fname} {self.lname}'
def __len__(self):
return self.age
def __add__(self, other):
if isinstance(other, User):
return User(fname='baby' , lname=self.lname, age=0)
return 'dont do that'
jane = User( 'jane', 'doe',23)
bob = User( 'bob', 'rock',34)
print(len(jane))
print(jane + bob)
k this is mostly copy pasta but i didnt have the energy to think of it all my self
shell blade
yeah pretty much but if you didnt do that and your tried to add them together it wouldnt work
oak tangle
Interesting, so the last name depends on the parents' order
tame pier
Welcome back Madipy
shell blade
hi...
tame pier
Magic methods are awesome
Just be careful when you're doing weird hacky dict subclasses for totally legit reasons
If you override __setattr__ and __getattribute__, it applies to self.bah = something as well as obj.blah = something...obvious, but it bit me with a nice stack recursion limit exceeded when I ran into it lol.
river anvil
who did
river anvil
whats it say
granite lake
Damn
river anvil
ke?
granite lake
Y'all up late
shell blade
@oak tangle yeah because it still does the addition in that order , order still applies so since repr is used essentially add has its own mro
tame pier
KE => KnownError
river anvil
oh
rough sapphire
really?
tame pier
Full name would probably look annoying lol
rough sapphire
for me it says some chinese character
tame pier
ASCII
shell blade
yeah i didnt need to look it up lol its just soo you
tame pier
lol
tame pier
chr(0x4B) + chr(0x45)
At this hour?
rough sapphire
im a bot.. i'm always here..
shell blade
i was gonna say some of us are mst
rough sapphire
beep boop
oak tangle
It's 7:15 am for me, so I'm awake (alarm goes at 6 am)
Usually, I'm just getting ready for work now
shell blade
@tame pier did you see the puzzle i posted
oak tangle
Yeah, it's not my thing either, but my gf needs to get up
So, I'm desperately trying to readjust
I'm more of a work until 2AM kinda person
tame pier
:p
oak tangle
Tried that yesterday, doesn't combine well with a 6am alarm
shell blade
i usually go to bed 11 or 12
up at 6:00am
im remember trying to adjust to a night shift for awhile that sucked
oak tangle
I do think the new 6 am rhythm is actually good for me
In terms of having a rhythm
It's easier to separate work/life when you actually have a schedule
shell blade
ohh soo much if my schedule is messed up im a wreck
i mean im always a wreck but wayy more
anyways guys i gotta sleep @tame pier if a bunch of us are around this weekend we should do a voice/video chat thing
shell blade
take care!
river anvil
gn
rough sapphire
happy valentines day
oak tangle
Oh, it is
oak tangle
It's the 14th here already
rough sapphire
oh, its valentines day
how nice
ive been rewriting this app for 4 months now
its taking me longer to rewrite than it did to make the thing
every time a part get stable i find a new way of doing things, and i see how ineffective my older methods are
like at one point i rewrote the app so that it uses abcs, now im rewriting it again to replace all getter/setters with properties
oak tangle
I think Lemon has a useful quote for that from a book called "The Pragmatic Programmer"
rough sapphire
oh?
oak tangle
Yeah, I'm searching, but Discord search is difficult
rough sapphire
heh take your time
oak tangle
The Pragmatic Programmer (which you should read) has a chapter on perfect software with great quotes like "Great software today is usually preferable to perfect software tomorrow."
and it argues that perfect software doesn't really exist, and part of becoming a productive programmer is learning to accept this.
at some point, your thing just has to be done.
hmm
good point
perfectionism is my flaw
like i can probably see myself spending a whole day getting this thing just to be pep8
tame pier
Yeah, I tend to over-engineer and over-architect things ahead of time
One technique I've developed to combat this urge is to consider the concrete use cases
rough sapphire
yeah
if i have a property in a class, do i still need to define the variable in init?
tame pier
Depends on what the property is doing
oak tangle
Good night!
gentle moss
for some fucking reason google now thinks i'm welsh
ALL my youtube adverts are in welsh now
river anvil
are you perhaps, welsh?
rough sapphire
you know, you can improve those if you enabled google timeline history
gentle moss
no i mean i've literally never had an advert in the Welsh language
and all of a sudden i'm getting nothing but them
in a static IP too so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
rough sapphire
yes.. since gdpr..
no one can hold your data unless you consent
that means.. horrible/random recommendations, for ads, videos etc..
based on your location..
it's like being an NPC instead of being a target :v
gentle moss
my IP doesn't geolocate to Wales and I don't use location services
that's the thing
so why oh why i'm getting Welsh adverts is slightly miffy.
gentle moss
what, welsh language television?
no, not really
because this is the sort of stuff that's on it
(yes i realise the irony that i'm now poisoning my youtube presence)
rough sapphire
you know...
im not sure if this against rules..
but I wish I could move around pokemon go.. without moving around..
gentle moss
wouldn't that technically be possible if you tried to like....
crowd source it
give your login credentials to people around the world and let them harvest for you
i mean it's an incredibly stupid idea
toxic delta
so i know that there is #web-development but is there anywhere else i can get help like a server? (because this server is mainly for python and i dont get many reponses to my questions)
wet tree
@toxic delta /r/webdev has a discord
shell blade
@gentle moss youtube thinks im a right leaning gun nut too which i am none of those lol how this happened im not sure...
at least some of my tech stuff pops up every once in a while...
gentle moss
before it was trying to sell me expensive medical research and development systems that cost like £200k each
shell blade
do you get the amazon become a bfa seller videos too? I get them a lot
glass gorge
gentle moss
the worst is when you remote into a random box and just want to write a little script but it's only got some ancient vi
so it's easier to just tap space 4 times
shell blade
does any watch sillicon valley where he broke up with that girl who used spaced instead of tab
gentle moss
yes
she was clearly being a dick to wind him up
however being in that situation where you can't tab for spaces is a pain
sinful copper
both of their arguments are bad
I don't think this show was written by someone actually familiar with the issue
modern heron
Wasn’t gDude an owner? What happened to that?
lilac glade
He was, but he stepped down for personal reasons.
stark prawn
lone otter
lol
raven zephyr
Do you guys play roblox? probably not after they banned pewdiepie haah gotteem
wet coral
robust sierra
@bleak lintel
bleak lintel
yes
robust sierra
forget about me not being active on this server for a while
remember Gigabyte?
@leaden maple
bleak lintel
oh yes
robust sierra
wtf happened to him
tired osprey
I MEMBER
worn kite
who? 
shell blade
😃
vestal briar
k
river anvil
plants vs zombies is very nostalgic
for me
its 3:33!
for me atleast
happy 3:33PM everybody
river anvil
i got this old tv from my mom since it was her old and she said if i wasnt gonna take it she was gonna throw it out and its great
i finally have something to hook my ps2 up to and its great for my old pc
it comes with speakers so i can listen to my music too
and easily adjust the volume with my remote
gentle moss
yeah
rough sapphire
very political
and I dont agree.. every generation complains about the previous one.. and every previous generation complains about the current one..
rough sapphire
I think he took the opportunity to make a political statement..
to some people.. like myself who are non natives of the language, you're welcome is something more along the lines of thank you come again..
no problem shouldn't be used.. because they get paid to do their job..
expresses more of a sense of entitlement for their job.. like flight attendants in the US..
rough sapphire
it's why I avoid saying either..:v
rough sapphire
you know how we say Excuse me.. or pardon me
gentle moss
depends on what situation
sand goblet
Yeah, as someone that's both says "no problem" and thinks the way that was described..
Makes sense to me
gentle moss
like "oh, you need a hand with that? too easy."
rough sapphire
the Japanese say Summimasen, which is like "I'm sorry for being a burden".. they use it for everything, like passing someone while walking along the sidewalk
sometimes they add.. gommenasai
which is also sorry..
sand goblet
That sounds like a one way road to depression
rough sapphire
Ikr.. I couldnt take it after a while.. which is why I went to China where people would cut it line and wouldnt give a damn about being straightforward and/or rude.. it was oddly refreshing :v
Japanese also bow if you open or hold the door/elevator for them
rough sapphire
that sounds like a fun thing to say..
why cant the British be more lively like the Scots and Irish..
sand goblet
They are
gentle moss
u foken kiddin m8
sand goblet
It's just negative instead of positive
Also the Scots are British, as much as they deny it
gentle moss
we're a pessimistic bunch
rough sapphire
hmm I dont know..maybe because you live there you see it that way:P to people on the outside, we see them as distinct
rough sapphire
it's like how Mainland Chinese insist that Taiwan is part of China..
gentle moss
British and Scottish
British and English
you can't be British and Northern Irish
that's not a thing
sand goblet
Britain encompasses Wales, England, Scotland and Northern Ireland
gentle moss
¬_¬
sand goblet
For now anyway
rough sapphire
I get beans in the morning.. that's pretty cool.. but isn't it like huge portions of everything else?
sand goblet
It's a fry-up
Sausage, egg, black and white pudding, beans, gilled tomato, mushrooms.. Sometimes a hash brown or chips if you're lucky
gentle moss
hmmmmm
sand goblet
Over here they give you a potato farl
gentle moss
you're missing bacon
rough sapphire
what's bubble and squeak
sand goblet
Oh right, bacon
Bisk, you're the brit here
Bisk doesn't know
It's basically boiled potatoes and cabbage
gentle moss
and the squeak is the farts from after eating it
gentle moss
and really a proper english fry-up is: bacon, egg, sausage, fried bread, fried mushrooms, baked beans, black pudding and MAYBE grilled tomato
rough sapphire
you know what this reminds me of..
sand goblet
Your sausages are weird though
gentle moss
i eat normal all meat sausages because i'm a gluten freak
sand goblet
You get breakfast sausages here, they aren't bendy
sand goblet
Good thing I can't click here
gentle moss
you mean like a hot dog
"not bending" sausages
not all sausages bend
and there's nothing wrong with bendy sausages
except they're hard to cut in half to make butties
gentle moss
Day #2 stuck in Windows SBS hell.
gentle moss
that's all i thought about for a second when i read sausages
oh yeah, you can't youtube
damn it
rough sapphire
how come
gentle moss
he's at work and has speakers
rough sapphire
oh someone told me about a sketch today..
gentle moss
watch that one
rough sapphire
eddie murphy as Rocky or something
gentle moss
it's about sausages
rough sapphire
ok.. I'll watch it when im back home
sand goblet
Oh, while you're here
Have either of you noticed the Spotify "behind the lyrics" feature?
I love that shit
gentle moss
is it basically songmeanings.net but bundled into spotify?
and also not based off random comment sections
rough sapphire
some of my all time favorite British comedies happen to be.. the IT Show.. Mind your language and Mr. Bean..
did you guys watch the new Johnny English
sand goblet
Mr Bean is always a good time
rough sapphire
Matt Berry is a hoot.. guy needs a knighthood or something..
gentle moss
Mr Bean is a brilliant character
sand goblet
Hah, yeah
rough sapphire
ooh I haven't seen that one
gentle moss
I mean Mr Bean doesn't speak and the comedy is all purely physical and Rowan Atkinson's face
rough sapphire
you know he has a masters in electrical engineering..
guy's a genius.. but went into comedy to make people happy
gentle moss
it's pretty amusing in its own way
summer rampart
BlackAdder
bleak lintel
oh I watched the new Johnny English the other day
sand goblet
slackbladder
bleak lintel
Was very amusing but the first is still best
rough sapphire
BlackAdder.. oh wow.. sure brings back memories..
this put me in the mood to watch monty python tonight.. lol
vapid bluff
guys can you imagine if we heard and spoke with light instead of sound
'oh no dont listen to the sun youll go deaf'
#2amphilosophy
wait thats not even philosophy
sullen thorn
U not seen the rick and Morty sun that screams?
rough sapphire
HTML is a programming language
gentle moss
Python is a scripting language
rough sapphire
That is an insult
wooden kindle
Adobe premier is a programming language
rough sapphire
lol
sand goblet
only true men bbq in the pouring rain and gale force winds
rough sapphire
I can bbq now
sand goblet
it wasn't my decision ok
one day we all decided we wanted a bbq
then 3 months later my parents roll home with this thing and I have to assemble it in the blazing sun
hexed jackal
Html is my favorite programming language
gentle moss
Powerpoint is mine
hexed jackal
Excel masterrace
sand goblet
@gentle moss it was the hottest summer we've had here since like 1940
gentle moss
yes i'm just playing on the joke of the british isles being a gentle climate
it's a proper cunt sometimes.
and yeah Sharpie, that presentation is funny as fuck
hexed jackal
I'm trying to find a good theme for visual studio code 😢
bleak lintel
@rain spindle no just restart your machine and nano it to fix it
river anvil
whats nano, joseph?
hexed jackal
pitch black?
grave phoenix
A text based text editor
river anvil
oh
rain spindle
@bleak lintel terminals won't start
rain spindle
Black screen except from the bottom bar
bleak lintel
tty, not a pts
rain spindle
tty?
bleak lintel
oh dear
river anvil
i too am confused
bleak lintel
try CTRL+Alt+F2
you'll most likely be running X in tty1 or whatever
that keyboard shortcut will flip you to tty2
grave phoenix
tty1
bleak lintel
yeah it was always tty1 for me
then again, I always ran startx manually in tty1 because I like being in control
sinful copper
anyway once you're in the TTY it's only alt-Fx to switch to another tty [including back to whichever one X is on], ctrl is only needed for switching away from X
river anvil
again, what is tty?
rain spindle
@bleak lintel I think it is just loading
I tried opening a terminal
With that shortcut
bleak lintel
@river anvil tty stands for teleprinter or teletypewriter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleprinter
river anvil
ohhh
bleak lintel
the number of ttys you can have varies on your distro (i think debian has like 63 or something)
but basically you can switch between them and it is just a shell
@rain spindle it doesn't open a terminal
it switches to another tty
grave phoenix
I can confirm in my raspberry it is 63
bleak lintel
when you click that shortcut what do you see?
sinful copper
Just to be clear, the type of "tty" we're talking about here is more properly called a virtual console
bleak lintel
yeah that is a better word for it here
sinful copper
it's called tty because on linux it's /dev/tty1 etc
grave phoenix
Isn't that a pts?
sinful copper
no, /dev/pts/N is a pseudo-tty (used for terminal emulators because the controlling side is managed by a user-mode process)
bleak lintel
yeah pts is pseudo-terminal slave because it isn't a real terminal
hardy anvil
i know this is a very stupid question but how can i tell if a help channel is not in use?
royal lakeBOT
hardy anvil
okay thx
modern heron
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cosmic quiver
I've been gnomed
lilac glade
I do a great Gnome'd impression, btw.
I figured I'd share because, if I didn't, on one'd ever know.
modern heron
@lilac glade Join General. You cant make such promises of a good gnome'd impression then suddenly blue ball us with the impression
river anvil
true
modern heron
were both still waiting
@river anvil ill be honest. Im starting to loose hope on getting this impression
modern heron
its looking bleak
lilac glade
I'll give you a hint as to why I haven't done it yet.
lilac glade
Hint #2 inbound.
lilac glade
No, that' I'm not online.
lilac glade
No, this is me not being in a place where I can do that.
oak tangle
Are you wearing a red shirt again?
lilac glade
You know I only had red shirts left to wear at work.
But that doesn't help now, as I changed it afterwards.
...it's still red.
sullen thorn
whats wrong with red shirts?
river anvil
theyre red
sullen thorn
so?
river anvil
what are you one of those red shirt sympathizers?
river anvil
no I'm anti-Scott, Tom anti-Scott
hi
same
same
?
o
idk nothing specific
still learning
hbu?
vapid bluff
-20 seconds? o_O
river anvil
i calculated seconds wrong
tame pier
Randomly found this PR while looking at libusb, cracks me up for some reason: https://github.com/pyusb/pyusb/pull/205
pine vector
some people ruin all the fun in notes... ^_^
lilac glade
@digital locust It comes with the territory.
summer rampart
I really shouldn't have listened to an hour long rock concert video right before bedtime
sullen thorn
u got ringing in your ears now?
summer rampart
well it's a video I have control over the volume
hm, maybe I'll reduce the volume a bit more
sullen thorn
😂
summer rampart
I'm off to try and lower my heartrate in bed
sand goblet
@gentle moss man, command strips are awesome
I wonder how the heck they make them that strong for their size
pine vector
command strips are the bestest, i have to agree.
gentle moss
i've been tempted to use them to hold my guitar hangers to the wall
i mean with their rating they should be able to hold it but the last thing i want is to take a shit load of paint off or for a bass to break
not sure i want to risk it :D
sullen thorn
do u not have a guitar stand?
pine vector
yeah, i'd be hesitant on that one too. the weight on a guitar is going to be [way] below the adhesion point, which amplifies the shear force. #MusingsFromANon-Engineer
sullen thorn
also presumably youre going to want to use the guitar
so dynamic force, not static force
gentle moss
i have 7 guitars / basses
plus one of them is solid steel
and i thought the same pretty much sommer :D
the constant taking it on and off as well
going from a few kg's of load to none, then back
over and over
pine vector
yeah. lag bolts into a solid substrate is your friend.
pine vector
oof. yeah, that "tech" has gotten better...but can the plaster hold is the key.
gentle moss
had to install TV's on walls like that before and you can get these great ones which like
form a solid backing across a larger surface area
sullen thorn
There is always one thing you can do when you're inside a computer.
Even if you're a little jumped up subroutine you can do it.
You can always -
- email !
cant believe that was actually in doctor who :cringe:
worn kite
I've seen that.
river anvil
oh god that part about computer npcs feeling pain
that made be cringe hard
in the veritas
same episode as that one i believe
sullen thorn
i loved the concept, but that yeah that kinda ruined the episode for me :/
yeah same one
river anvil
maybe dr who has run its course
tired osprey
you do realize that that is a reference to zawinski's law
@sullen thorn ?
"Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can."
worn kite
"It's also enormous. The EXE is over 65 MB in size, with around 4 million lines of code, backed by a database with over 150 tables, built up over the course of more than a decade of work."
This part of a 2012 answer made me laugh. 😂 I wish that would still be enormous by today's standards
worn kite
waiting for systemd to get browserd and officed...
viscid quarry
systemd is rly good
river anvil
probably authors
viscid quarry
MOFFAT
tired osprey
chances are high it was him
tired osprey
yes this entire talk has been about dr who
tired osprey
there are some people who are happy he left
viscid quarry
why
river anvil
i dont know who that is?
tired osprey
the man who probably wrote the vast majority of dr who episodes youve ever seen
river anvil
yea hes becoming washed up i guess
viscid quarry
im gonna shoo away now
and see if i missed any eps
if not then i guess game time
tired osprey
my fav episode is s10e11
worn kite
Moffat also wrote the BBC Sherlock stuff, or at least some of it, dunno
worn kite
which is 10/11?
tired osprey
(which is the only episode i know with correct sxex descriminator)
the one with the long spaceship and the black hole
worn kite
oh, that's one of the last I've seen
viscid quarry
moffat was really good
worn kite
was quite a surprise to ||see him return again||
worn kite
(also first legit use of a spoiler tag, yay)
river anvil
lol
viscid quarry
im gonna watch the new fantastic beasts 
tired osprey
||weird laughing intensifies||
tired osprey
because you just got ignored
viscid quarry
cause you pinged me
sullen thorn
bad squiggles 😠
tame terrace
what client is that, @viscid quarry ?
viscid quarry
@tame terrace python
sonic night
i wanna see the source of it too
sullen thorn
squiggles being naughty
tame terrace
python. as in you're running a selfbot?
tired osprey
third party clients are baaaaaaad
viscid quarry
yea
sullen thorn
speaking of clients, anyone have a client for signal that supports voice calls?
tired osprey
infriction rocket loaded
tame terrace
okay. that's a violation of the Discord TOS. we're a discord partner. I wish you hadn't said that.
sullen thorn
nooooooooo lemon nooooooooooooooo
viscid quarry
o
sullen thorn
squiggles is a good squiggle
viscid quarry
i didnt know rip
viscid quarry
do i have any choices to not get like banned or kicked ?
cause i really kinda like it here
tame terrace
I mean, you should start by not using it anymore.
sullen thorn
just report him if u must - dont do anything more lemon 😦
viscid quarry
done 
i mean i didnt see anything against it in the rules webpage :x
guess im off to write a playing status rpc client 
sonic night
discord partner means u need to read discord TOS too
viscid quarry
@sonic night mention discord partner in the rules or anything
@sullen thorn idk what signal is xd
sullen thorn
its a messaging app
sullen thorn
viscid quarry
im gonna go around disabling all pings
sonic night
Follow the Discord community guidelines found only this
but selfbotting is against discord and bannable
it is even at discord.py documentation
sullen thorn
hmm but is TOS same as community guidelines?
sonic night
it is not the same
viscid quarry
lol
sonic night
thats why "only"
viscid quarry
i know it's bannable
but last i talked to devs, they said it was fine
so
as long as im not abusing and spamming n stuff
like that python 2 script that automatically makes accounts on discord and spams people
and yea it was made in python 2 lol
sullen thorn
was that a yes on making a signal python client tho?
viscid quarry
maybe
sonic night
thats why i am actually scared to finish my api wrapper.
because it can just login more clients at the same time
viscid quarry
yep
sonic night
even scary to think on it
sand goblet
Selfbotting is 100% disallowed and there have been many, many official posts about banning people that do it
It hasn't been up for debate for months :P
tame terrace
here's their current stance
for the record
we're discussing the matter internally @viscid quarry. I will be right with you.
tame terrace
okay. look, I don't really wanna do this but we have no choice. as a discord partner we need to enforce the discord terms absolutely. for the record this wasn't what I wanted.
!ban @viscid quarry admitted to using a self-bot.
royal lakeBOT
:incoming_envelope: :ok_hand: permanently banned @viscid quarry (admitted to using a self-bot.).
gentle moss
womp womp
tame terrace
and to the rest of you correctly stating that our rules may be a tiny bit too ambiguous about this, we're discussing it internally.
sullen thorn
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
you didnt have to do that 😢
you couldve warned and reported him or something
tired osprey
🚀
sand goblet
It's a tough break but it's one of the responsibilities that comes with being a partnered server
It sucks but what can you do
shell blade
womp womp
ohhh wow k i didn't see what just happened
poor guy I honestly think he didn't know
sonic night
in my language there is a meme from lord of the rings: "What are your elf eyes see"or something like this should be at english
i didnt know it is not a meme at english 
sand goblet
too much light theme
gentle moss
not enough googly eyes
hexed jackal
Life sucks man
sand goblet
You religious?
hexed jackal
Not really
worn kite
well, there is one exit condition...
worn kite
can't give what I don't have
sand goblet
If you truly want to find a way out, you will