#ot1-perplexing-regexing

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gentle moss
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a bunch of it i didn't play but helped with ideas for too

sullen thorn
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No chance u play the piano too?

gentle moss
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since my recording equipment is a bit wank

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no, i do not play the piano

sullen thorn
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Ah shame :/ bass is still really cool tho 😃

gentle moss
tame terrace
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making it sound like piano would've been better

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pfft.

sullen thorn
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No just I want help with a small piano thing lol

tame terrace
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I play. but I gotta go riiight now.

sullen thorn
tame terrace
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later later bye bye bye

gentle moss
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bb lemons

sullen thorn
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Bye bye

gentle moss
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i can sorta play piano but only really badly and by learning patterns to play

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i can't actually "play" one

sullen thorn
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Wanted to kinda do a bass line but on the piano (like with the left hand and improvise jazz with the right) but it’s not really working as well as I hoped

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I need more practise

gentle moss
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i can't do that left / right split too well

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even on bass

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a lot of it is to uhhh, just loads of practice

sullen thorn
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if u find a way to send me chilli, and u can assure me I won’t die of food poisoning, and it doesn’t cost an insane amount, i’m down to buy some

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Bass has right left split?

gentle moss
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yes

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it's just different to a pianos

sullen thorn
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I don’t remember any right left split

gentle moss
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not playing bass to a high enough level then :3

sullen thorn
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When u say right left split, u mean just playing a solid line on the lower strings and then doing like a little riff on the upper ones?

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And alternating?

gentle moss
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being able to independently play different patterns with each hand

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it comes into play a lot when playing tap bass

sullen thorn
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Oh fuck that no I can’t do that 😂

gentle moss
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yeah, complete hand independence is sort of a key thing to do on piano

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i got a little bit of it from learning drums before i played bass

sullen thorn
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I’m a classical guitarist and classical pianist, i’m not good at improv on piano, and I can’t do tap or slap bass on the bass 😂

gentle moss
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just me messing about on my acoustic bass

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swear i had some better ones

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at that's me testing out my p-bass after refurbing it

sullen thorn
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Wow that’s insane - I can’t do that 😂 interesting lyrics tho

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Also u have a beard 😃

gentle moss
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Ween - Waving my dick in the wind

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was what i was covering

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i have been playing bass for 16 years though

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sooooo, i've got a bit of an advantage

sullen thorn
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The second one sounds more doable (still dope tho)

gentle moss
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practices makes perfect :)

sullen thorn
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How did u learn bass? Cuz like I can’t just listen to that and play it (at least not in the same way u do)

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Like I can play the same notes but it won’t sound the same

gentle moss
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i'm self taught

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but i basically learned from like uhhh

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funk music, bits of metal but a huge chunk of Primus

sullen thorn
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Primus?

gentle moss
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yeah, the band

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this is one of my favourite bass riffs they've got

sullen thorn
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Ooh ok found them on YouTube (google didn’t have them)

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Very catch 😃

gentle moss
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very tricky to play, but the main reason i picked up bass guitar

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know how to play most their discography

sullen thorn
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Swear the videos of u playing are harder than that

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Not that it’s easy, but I feel like that was definitely doable - whereas what u play, some of it is insane

gentle moss
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nah, that dobro video is actually pretty simple, it's just fast. it's like a rhythm that once you get it's easy to do at speed

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it's like thumb slap, thumb slap, pop, thumb slap, thumb slap pop super fast

sullen thorn
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I think i’m gonna have to get my parents to bring me my bass when they visit me

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Never done thumb stuff, and here I only have a double bass (idk if I can do thumb stuff on that?)

gentle moss
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yeah, you can slap double basses. you've just got to do it differently

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it's more like a slap with the fingers / palm

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i recommend looking at people like Stanley Clarke or Marcus Miller

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Larry Graham is also the king of slap style bass

sullen thorn
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Wow I just watched a 6m video on Stanley Clarke’s upright bass playing... wow

gentle moss
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yah :D

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Also check out "School Days" by him

sullen thorn
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I’ll check it tomorrow, I gotta go sleep in a minute

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But thnx for introducing me to these things 😃

gentle moss
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no problem, i got lots of weirder more out there stuff if you ever get more curious

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squarepusher and the likes

viral parrot
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@lyric dust it is incredible dangerous to open your home network to everyone on the internet

lyric dust
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How do I make it... not that way?

viral parrot
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you run your web-code on a off-site server

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if you know how to setup a firewall at home, you can do that to protect yourself

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but then your code running on the raspberry pi might have a security bug in it and lets outsiders still gain access to your home network

lyric dust
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I'll look into pythonanywhere

fiery birch
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Why on discord

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Can you NOT move channels to suit you

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Surely wouldnt be that hard to code?

rough sapphire
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I really prefer DigitalOcean over PythonAnywhere

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You can do stuff not related to python

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And if you run discord bots voice on pyanywhere is messed with

fiery birch
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@rough sapphire on DigitalOcean can you install the modules needed and store a db browser file

rough sapphire
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your running an linux os

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you download the stuff yourself

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for ubuntu

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easy

fiery birch
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Oh geez im gonna have to rlly look into this

rough sapphire
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sudo apt-get install python3-pip python3 && pip3

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But DigitalOcean has some guides for setting your server up

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There is other people who provide servers such as ovh and galaxygate

fiery birch
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I shall look into it, tysm

tired osprey
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@fiery birch one can move the channels it's just that you can't without the permission it's already been implemented just not for everyone

fiery birch
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Yeah for server owner

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But should be for all

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And server owner be casual

cosmic quiver
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wake me up inside

gentle moss
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no one wants to save you from the dark

lilac glade
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@nova path I sometimes like to have fun with my stored variables by storing them backwards.
Backwards key: backwards value
Fun times.

vapid bluff
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There is currently an exploit in Discord where anyone can crash your client by sending a Spotify link or a specific gif going around.

To avoid this from happening go into your Settings -> Text & Images -> Disable Link Preview under Text & Images. If you're already crashed in a different server, try changing this setting on your phone or in a browser without viewing a channel that has the link.

IF YOU SEND THIS GIF AND/OR ATTEMPT TO CRASH THE SERVER WITH  MALICIOUS INTENT, YOU WILL BE PERMANENTLY BANNED FROM THE DISCORD.
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just got this announcement from another server

sonic night
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Should i make an autodetect for that on my bot ? GWmiyanoSip so it can insta delete?

gentle moss
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i mean it's not like it crashes the servers

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also once it's posted i guess the damage is done?

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"a specific gif"

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that's weird

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apparently there was one of these in 2017 too

tame terrace
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I remember that

tough stratus
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Often quite hard to verify those.. A lot of chain mail to that effect goes around

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Discord usually act pretty quickly to those types of things

vestal briar
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how much is a 1 bedroom apartment near the center in your town/city?

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my city is £500 per month

tame terrace
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cheapest I can find in downtown oslo near city center is £760

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but that's only 10m²

vestal briar
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i think this one is like 30-40²ft

tame terrace
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that's around the same

vestal briar
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new development in my city whitch looks intresting (small skyscraper)

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tame terrace
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the most expensive 1-room apartment I can find near the center is

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£2534

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which is roughly 140²ft

tame terrace
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@rough sapphire you appear to have had a number of warnings about your nickname not adhering to our policy.

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so now we're doing this

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!star @rough sapphire 5d

royal lakeBOT
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Congratulations!

Your previous nickname, ちせんす, was so bad that we have decided to change it. Your new nickname will be Ayumi Hamasaki.

You will be unable to change your nickname until
Tue, 12 Feb 2019 10:58:14 GMT.

If you're confused by this, please read our official nickname policy.

rough sapphire
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ack

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i didnt even know i had warnings

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kk atleast im hot

tame terrace
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she almost looks a bit like your avatar

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kinda lucky with that. you could've just as easily have gotten Kid Rock or something :P

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we did ping you on those earlier occasions

vestal briar
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chisel?

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thats not bad?

rough sapphire
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this is a very interesting thread

cosmic quiver
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yeah

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I'm still amazed how discord didn't get this much flak around the last cartoon child porn controversy

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They were under investigation by FBI back then too I think

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around the charolettesville thing

rough sapphire
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I hadn't heard about that

river anvil
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what is cub porn....

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a lot of this is news to me

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i dont think quackity was banned because he was "uncovering the secret furry grooming ring"

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he'd been raiding discords and other online spaces for a while now which is strictly against discord ToS

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although weird it took so long he had it coming

cosmic quiver
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cub porn is pornography of anthromorphized minors

river anvil
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ewww

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alright

sinful copper
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the thread claims the accusations of raiding are bullshit, for whatever that's worth

river anvil
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im not an expert on his videos but wasnt most of the raids uploaded or streamed?

sinful copper
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i don't even know who he is

river anvil
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i watched a couple of his videos

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he just basically does online raids like habbo hotel and stuff like that

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nothing too interesting but his ban isnt unexpected

sinful copper
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sorry it was someone else's post i was thinking of, not about this quackity person

river anvil
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oh ok

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i dont know much about the situation in general

rough sapphire
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oh i programmed a simple game do pip/pip3 install yfiglet for it to work

summer rampart
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!pep 572

royal lakeBOT
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**PEP 572 - Assignment Expressions**
Status

Accepted

Python-Version

3.8

Created

28-Feb-2018

Type

Standards Track

sullen thorn
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!pep 1

royal lakeBOT
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**PEP 1 - PEP Purpose and Guidelines**
Status

Active

Created

13-Jun-2000

Type

Process

vestal briar
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What does pep stand for

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I forgot

sand goblet
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Python enhancement proposal

sullen thorn
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!pep 8

royal lakeBOT
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**PEP 8 - Style Guide for Python Code**
Status

Active

Created

05-Jul-2001

Type

Process

sullen thorn
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income = (gross_wages
          + taxable_interest
          + (dividends - qualified_dividends)
          - ira_deduction
          - student_loan_interest)
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hmm... it looks better in monospace font...

gentle moss
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everything looks better in monospace

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humans love patterns and consistent letter spacing is just an extension of the innate desire of the human mind to have order and predictability.

vestal briar
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Don't you love it when you are writing a paragraph of text and the lines have like a perfect, unbroken space all the way up

sullen thorn
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Depends

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Sometimes it’s distracting :/

sand goblet
rough sapphire
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@tiny raven hi

gentle moss
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hey gdude, that's funny and all

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but have you seen the real news?

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sand goblet
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Haha

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That's great and all

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but have you seen the real news?

gentle moss
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hahaha

tough stratus
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Wat

sand goblet
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:>

sullen thorn
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I mean she was nice in suits 🤷‍♀️

gentle moss
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tbh i don't follow her choice in fashion

sand goblet
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I don't follow fashion for the most part

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:P

gentle moss
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at least none of us follow fascion

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🤞

sullen thorn
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i meant the tv show suits 😒

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any of u good at assembly and c, and can help me understand stack frames in more detail? (like i get how the stack data structure works, but more than that)

sinful copper
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i know some, what do you want to know @sullen thorn

hearty lotus
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today i found this masterpiece - luckly in a try: exept section

if "dead" in str(prev.cache): 1/0 # just don't!
sinful copper
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lol what

gentle moss
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o_O

hearty lotus
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i thing the reason for this is to kill this branch

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but why this is in an try: exept: instead of just using the if statement is quite strange

sullen thorn
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@sinful copper its ok i gave up

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i'll keep u in mind for next time tho

sullen thorn
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interesting age options

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not quite sure what to put since im 19

sinful copper
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well whens your birthday

lilac glade
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No, no
He's 19.

Can't apply.

sullen thorn
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My birthday’s in several months

fiery birch
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i mean

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you sure ur not 0?

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Kappa

vapid bluff
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lol whats going on with that age selection

river anvil
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piss poor design

tame terrace
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how are you all tonight?

tulip palm
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doing quite good. just woke up. (don't ask)

ornate zinc
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wow

tame terrace
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okay.

ornate zinc
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im good

tame terrace
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I will not.

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oh hey it's juan and brackets

ornate zinc
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yea

bleak lintel
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brackets your profile picture is amazing

ornate zinc
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i agree

tame terrace
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How would you spend €10,000 if you had to spend them all today?

ornate zinc
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trying to bid for python bot source

bleak lintel
tame terrace
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hahahaha

ornate zinc
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what is fortnite axe channel for

tulip palm
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i would convert it to £ and spend it all on a bus ticket

ornate zinc
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b o i

tame terrace
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to where. mars?

halcyon siren
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purchase 2 tickets to paradise

tulip palm
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(that's a dig to the UK economy, if you couldn't tell)

ornate zinc
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lemon what is ur pfp

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is that a robot

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or you

tame terrace
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it's me.

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but, uh, the talking is simulated.

ornate zinc
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okay makes sense

tulip palm
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or so we think

tame terrace
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someone made it for me because they thought it should look like I was talking to them when they hovered me.

bleak lintel
ornate zinc
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oiii

tulip palm
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haha

ornate zinc
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HHAHAHAHAHA

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NO

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when you realize that the anti vaxxer memes will last longer than the kids

tulip palm
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🤔

ornate zinc
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what

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wooooosh

tulip palm
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what no i get it, it's just a bit of a weird thing to say.

tame terrace
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we all get it

vapid bluff
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check for the best conversion rate and commit arbitrage

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😎

river anvil
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ouch this is awkward

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i messaged a random guy on my friends list instead of someone i meant to message from here a couple days ago

vestal briar
tough stratus
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😢

glass gorge
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Except that string.

cosmic quiver
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stonk

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Not sure if reference to stonk or just a funny word someone made up

magic rune
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[14:13] Chibli: Except that string.

MemoryError my dude

glass gorge
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I run my scripts in a dynamic scaleable cloud service GWchadLENNYTHINK

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(I have no idea what I'm taking about)

magic rune
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Lol

sullen thorn
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what memory error?

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wow is there no limit to how big int can get?

worn kite
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your ram is the limit

sullen thorn
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The sys.maxint constant was removed, since there is no longer a limit to the value of integers

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tf

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never thought this would be the case, but ig i like it

fervent dock
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i dont

tulip palm
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i used sys.maxint to figure out whether python was on 32bit or 64bit. oof.

sand goblet
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Well there's a proper way to do that lol

tulip palm
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sh

vestal briar
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ssh, yes

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((((/s))))

rough sapphire
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channel name stunningly accurate

dusky orchid
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i've never been on r/programming

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i'm probably not even a programmer then

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only real programmers sub to r/programming sadkitty2

river anvil
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only real programmers know assembly

dusky orchid
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i'm definitely not a real programmer then sadkitty

sullen thorn
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Tbh u learn more from r/programmerhumor than r/programming

cosmic quiver
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r/programmerhumor is so bad

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It's "took my first cs class today" tier humor

dusky orchid
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how else would people relate to it then

cosmic quiver
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It's also reposts of reposts of reposts of reposts

dusky orchid
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just like most of reddit

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lol

sullen thorn
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It’s awesome lol

sand goblet
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programmerhumor is about 90% reposts

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occasionally there's something funny there, though

cosmic quiver
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There's like 5 categories of memes there

summer rampart
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just 5?

bleak lintel
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i posted to programmerhumor once

cosmic quiver
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I dont understand my own code :s
What is pointer :s
DAE le can't find ;
DAE le light theme bad
DAE program compiles

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ok but that one is actually good

bleak lintel
cosmic quiver
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hmmm

bleak lintel
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heeee

summer rampart
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more catagories

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hurr durr IDE bad

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hurr durr javascript bad

cosmic quiver
bleak lintel
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half the memes on programmerhumor go something like this

summer rampart
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quote

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(unpopular opinion) As someone who's done alot of work on pathing grids i can honestly say that A* is truly a terrible algorithm and everyone that uses it is unfortunately an idiot. (and this is coming from someone who written many A* implementations and even managed to remove the need to sort open set at-all and removed close set entirely) In any non-trivial case it's performance is abysmal. Simple undirected breadth first search (with fairly obvious optimizations) provides pathing from every tile in a massive grid in a tiny fraction of the time it takes A* to path from one cell. If you don't have a graph don't use A! thats just my 2cents (and if you manage to A a 1024x1024 grid in < 1ms then maybe come talk to me)
bleak lintel
summer rampart
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that's hurr durr javascript bad

bleak lintel
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yeah

cosmic quiver
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At least it's not just constant github commit timeline memes

bleak lintel
tough stratus
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heh

cosmic quiver
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haha yes I know how to use git too

bleak lintel
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lol

rough sapphire
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@river anvil yay I'm a real programmer

river anvil
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yay

vestal briar
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r/programminghumour = js bad, cs hard, assembaly cool but hard, dark theme good, light theme bad, python meh

rough sapphire
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the same horse comic posted five times a day

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the same saving-princess-from-castle comic posted five times a day

sullen thorn
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Well screw u guys I find it amusing 😒

vestal briar
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k

sullen thorn
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@gentle moss can i make a burger in a non stick pan?

vestal briar
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anything can be a burger if you really want it to

sullen thorn
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Yeah but like will it turn out decent?

tame terrace
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sure it can

sullen thorn
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ok sick

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im making that for dinner on tuesday 😃

tame terrace
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stainless steel is my prefered pan for burgers but a non-stick will work fine. just heat it up real good before you put the burger in, then run it on high-ish medium and let it finish one side at a time, no constant flipping.

sullen thorn
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i have a teflon pan and an electric stove :/

tame terrace
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yep, but that's fine.

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heat the pan with some oil or butter, check if it's hot by splashing a drop of water in it and waiting for a good sizzle, down to medium-high heat, throw in the burger (not too many), and resist the urge to fuck with it.

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3-4 minutes per side, usually. ideally completely undisturbed.

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they'll turn out great.

sullen thorn
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ok sick 😃

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and uhh what do i ask the butcher for? like at home the butcher knows us and i just say like this much burger meat

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do i want anything special if im doing it in the pan?

tame terrace
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butchers are good at helping you find the right thing if you're not sure. that's their job.

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you can totally say "I'm making burgers, what do I need"

sullen thorn
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ok sick 😃

tame terrace
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and just make sure it's well seasoned before it hits the pan

sullen thorn
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ill ask him tomorrow

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yeah dw, im not my mum

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(she literally seasons nothing)

tame terrace
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and no spices in the pan itself. they'll burn and ruin your life.

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just season the meat before. ideally a little while before.

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salt has some nice effects on meat if you let it sit for a bit

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like removing moisture and sort of firming up the meat.

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moisture is usually bad.

vestal briar
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put some greese in there and light it

sullen thorn
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i have no greece

vestal briar
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gives it a nice texture

sullen thorn
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*greese

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all i have is olive oil lol

vestal briar
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espcially if you put a little bit of water in ther

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/s obviously

sullen thorn
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oh lol idk

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wait just /s for the water right, not the grease?

vestal briar
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lighting gresse and putting water on it

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you know, a gresce fire

sullen thorn
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oh by lighting u meant actually set it on fire?

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ohh

tame terrace
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you definitely do want a little oil in there, don't try to fry it dry :P

vestal briar
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of course

sullen thorn
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no yeah ik, just i didnt pick up on him setting it on fire too 😂

vestal briar
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mm

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throw a bit of lemon in there to give it its tang

tame terrace
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please don't.

sullen thorn
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i was about to say no... but possibly for a very different reason

vestal briar
sullen thorn
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why no?

tame terrace
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because lemon has a very low pH and that will fuck with flavors you don't want to fuck with

vestal briar
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hehe

tame terrace
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a burger patty needs nothing but salt and pepper.

sullen thorn
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ah

vestal briar
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vinegar

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and dihydrogen monoxide

sullen thorn
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no my reason was im too lazy to go to the shop and buy lemon

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ok now thats just disgusting (both of them)

tame terrace
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you don't like water?

sullen thorn
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not in my burger

tame terrace
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haha

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@vestal briar you're such a shitposter dude

vestal briar
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👍 appricate it

sullen thorn
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actually.... we have some really tasty balsamic vinegar with the viscosity of maple syrup... maybe that might go well? (tho not during cooking, just as an extra sauce during assembly)

tame terrace
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sounds like it'll completely overpower the flavors imo.

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but I've eaten weirder burgers.

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you can really do whatever with it during assembly. experiment and have fun.

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just cook the components properly

sullen thorn
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not like a lot - just like maybe a small tablespoon

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yeah i will dw

tame terrace
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I like spicy burgers myself. maybe your thing is balsemic vinegar burgers :P

sullen thorn
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its not really that acidic

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its also very sweet

vapid bluff
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wow. didn't expect to see gordon ramsay here today

sullen thorn
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lemon or bisk?

vapid bluff
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uhm

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yes

vestal briar
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i agree

sullen thorn
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lol

tame terrace
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gordon is so posh, man.

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I can't deal with his recipes.

vestal briar
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[BLEEEEEEP]

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[bloop] [beep]

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1khz goodness

sullen thorn
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what hes not posh

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hes normal

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and a very good cook

tame terrace
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I didn't say he wasn't a good cook. but his recipes always use at least one ingredient you've either never heard of or need to travel into the city to find. he can't go two minutes without adding tamarind or palm sugar or galangal or kasoori methi or whatever. he bills himself as like oh yeah here's something you can quickly throw together for dinner and then he makes a fancy version of that meal with some authentic ingredient and uses his kids as props in his videos so that he can show off how great a dad he is.

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I find him a bit infuriating

sullen thorn
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idk the only mildly exotic thing ive seen him use is star anise

tame terrace
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I do like the food it cooks, though. I just don't like his face :P

sullen thorn
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aww 😦 now i feel bad for gordon

tame terrace
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he seemed like a super nice guy when he was on hot ones, though

bleak lintel
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where's the lamb sauce

vapid bluff
#

pydis cookoff when

tame terrace
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I mean he completely pussied out and was swearing up a storm the entire time but he was super nice to the host. brought a ton of donuts and shit with him and kept offering food to sean.

sullen thorn
tame terrace
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hot ones is a great show, utterly ruined by terrible music, btw.

sullen thorn
#

i have not seen it yet

bleak lintel
tame terrace
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that's because you have awful taste in videos.

sullen thorn
#

yeah i agree the original was better lol

bleak lintel
#

Hell's kitchen was an absolute shit show though

sullen thorn
#

true lol, but it had some amazing moments

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e.g. lamb sauce, and non stick pan

bleak lintel
#

most of the amazing moments were just gordon ruining someones dreams of being a chef

sullen thorn
#

yeah but like... their dreams were ruined when they sucked 🤷

tame terrace
#

I like the shows in which gordon isn't a terrible person

sullen thorn
#

so all the UK ones?

tame terrace
#

he's just been played up by american television networks as a jerk

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but the UK ones are nice.

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but all of these shows suck compared to good food shows

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like Delicious Ugly

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or was it Ugly Delicious?

sullen thorn
#

is it as entertaining as kitchen nightmares and hotel hell tho?

bleak lintel
#

his daughter had a TV show here for a bit

tame terrace
#

no, it's far more entertaining on account of not being a garbage procedural.

sullen thorn
#

hmm... isnt his daughter like 14 or something? i feel like that would be a little cringey

bleak lintel
#

it was absolutely horrific

sullen thorn
#

oooh ugly delicious is on netflix 😃

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oh ofc lol

bleak lintel
#

the only things i have watched on netflix are bandersnatch and rick and morty

tame terrace
#

ugly delicious is just dave chang and peter meehan talking food with amazing chefs and exploring certain foods in different cultures.

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the first episode is about pizza. super interesting.

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from authentic italian to american to deep dish to japanese pizza

bleak lintel
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right i really need to sleep now

sullen thorn
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ok i wanna watch it now, but im also really hungry, and if i watch it im gonna end up ordering dominos and then hating myself cuz dominos sucks

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lol k gn

tame terrace
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good night, joph

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japanese pizza is weird, man

sullen thorn
#

it looks normal... just maybe some unusuall seafood toppings

tame terrace
#

meehan is the editor for food in the LA Times and owns a bunch of resturants and shit

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chang owns momofoku

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so they're very interesting people. and they go talk to people from some of the top resturants in the world

vapid bluff
#

i wanna see gordon ramsey with claire on bon appetit. see who can make the best gourmet potato chips or some crap

tame terrace
#

haha

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that'd be fun

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I doubt gordon has ever made a potato chip

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although his first job I think was at a fish and chips place

sullen thorn
#

what u on about lol he grew up in a pub

tame terrace
#

how many pubs make their own potato chips, wat

vapid bluff
#

dont they call them a crisp in the uk?

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or is that the us, other way round?

tame terrace
#

no, you got it

sullen thorn
#

wait

tame terrace
#

crisps in the uk

sullen thorn
#

we talking about crisps or chips?

tame terrace
#

potato chips = crisps

vapid bluff
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the things you get in bags at the supermarket

sullen thorn
#

u get both in bags at the supermarket

vapid bluff
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half to 3/4 of said bag being air

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:/

tame terrace
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don't be intentionally daft

sullen thorn
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ohhh

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crisps

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if you'd said like corner shop, id been like sure crisps

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but who goes all the way to the supermarket for crisps

tame terrace
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btw

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one of the japanese pizzas from ugly delicious

sullen thorn
#

wait so what do u guys call crisps?

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DONT MAKE ME HUNGRY

tame terrace
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mayonaise and corn sauce

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with tuna

sullen thorn
#

is that raw meat?

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ohhh

tame terrace
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yes, some of it is raw

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sushi style

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you're supposed to eat it with chopsticks

sullen thorn
#

tf

tame terrace
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and it's served with wasabi

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I told you man they have some weird pizzas

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they have normal ones, too, of course.

sullen thorn
#

no the toppings is fine, im just like how tf do u eat it with chopsticks? unless like ur supposed to eat tthe toppings off with chopsticks and then eat the pizza with your heands

tame terrace
#

yeah basically that

sullen thorn
#

ah k that kinda makes sense (still little weird lol)

rough sapphire
#

where are you getting this wasabi..

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did you know that wasabi outside of Japan isn't real?

tame terrace
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I did not.

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care to elaborate?

rough sapphire
#

yeah.. so wasabi is from the wasabi plant

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it's hard to find it outside of Japan.. and it's pricey

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so wasabi outside Japan is horse radish, mustard and spinach coloring

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even within Japan.. sometimes it's hard to find real wasabi..

tame terrace
#

cool. I didn't know that.

rough sapphire
#

you would recognize real wasabi because even in tiny amounts it is strong and it's not possible to build a tolerance to

tame terrace
#

I'm fairly sure they were eating real wasabi in that scene since it was at a prominent resturant in japan

rough sapphire
#

oh cool..where

tame terrace
#

Seirinkan

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in tokyo

rough sapphire
#

I know where it is :v I live here lol

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ok so the wasabi pizza is not on the menu.. seems like they did it just for the show for that one time.. and I looked at the video.. it's not real wasabi..

tame terrace
#

the wasabi isn't visible in the video, wat

rough sapphire
#

wait.. im not sure this is the one

vestal briar
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real wisabi is ££££

tame terrace
#

preeeeetty sure that's a wasabi plant in the bottom right?

rough sapphire
#

oooh yeah in your picture it is

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but in the pizza on the video.. it seems mixed with something so I wasn't sure

tame terrace
#

they just served it alongside the pizza

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for eating the tuna with, I think

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and yeah this video might be from the same resturant but I'm talking about the first episode of the ugly delicious show

rough sapphire
#

ahh ok.. never seen the show :V

tame terrace
#

maybe you should, it's good.

trail estuary
#

just wondering, is khan academy's "learn to code" stuff worth it? we did some stuff of it at our school but we never made it very far

rough sapphire
#

his twitter is funny.. I'll check out the show

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@trail estuary depends what you want to learn.. what grade or college year are you in

trail estuary
#

but what im asking is, if you took the course, were you actually able to do coding?

rough sapphire
#

there are some basics here.. and html css stuff.. it's all over the place..

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if you're serious, you'd take a more structured approach

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focus on a language depending on your goals - DS, WebDev, Security etc..

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You know what I don't understand.. bamboo shoots and lotus root.. there is no taste.. why would people eat that stuff

tame terrace
#

texture, dude

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bamboo shoots are great. they soak up flavor and have awesome texture

trail estuary
#

i guess it'd probably be better to take a more, serious course if that makes sense

tame terrace
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check out one from our resource list

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!resources

royal lakeBOT
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Resources

The Resources page on our website contains a list of hand-selected goodies that we regularly recommend to both beginners and experts.

rough sapphire
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hmm understandable.. I've always been on extremes of the taste spectrum.. maybe time to try somethings in the middle as well

tame terrace
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they're a great filler in a spicy or saucy dish, adds some chewy textures and can be beautiful. and the high fiber is great for your health.

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and people love them in stir frys

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I use them when I make thai

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making kaeng khiao wan tomorrow and I will totally use some even though it's not traditional

rough sapphire
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I've only ever had it in chinese hotpot..

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ooh green curry.. looks delicious

tame terrace
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it iiis.

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such a nice balance of sweet, savory, salty and spicy.

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I make it often

rough sapphire
#

cool.. im gonna try to make it.. and add green peppers to it..

tame terrace
#

green peppers go very well with it.

#

I usually go mushrooms, red peppers, sometimes snap peas, garnish with spring onion and fresh chili

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but almost anything works really well. you can be creative with what vegetables to add.

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it's fun.

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that's from the last time I cooked it.

sullen thorn
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You have very nice china

tame terrace
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yeah. super nice. 2 bucks at IKEA I think

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:p

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I'll buy some fancy bowls some day.

sullen thorn
#

Oh. Eh it still looks nice 😃

rough sapphire
#

sticky rice?

river anvil
#

ugh this course im taking is teaching me nothing i want to know

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i just want to know how to create databases and stuff

#

its just teaching me how to make charts and stuff

rough sapphire
#

start with mysql.. it's the easiest.. skip teradata.. it's shit

river anvil
#

do i have to use something outside of python?

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ill check it out

#

just thought there was a python alternative

rough sapphire
#

python with sql is one alternative..

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or.. there's bigquery which you can also use with python

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depends on the type of data

river anvil
#

what is pandas then?

rough sapphire
#

pandas is dataframes

#

like tables.. where you can do easy operations.. but it's not a database..

river anvil
#

that sounds like what i need

#

idk

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im going to have about 4k~ listings and a few categories for each one then sort those by categories

#

does that sound like itd be good for pandas or...?

rough sapphire
#

can you show a sample..

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that does sound like a job for pandas

river anvil
#

uh i guess

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game title | release date | developer | publisher | game description | rating on x site | rating on y site | rating on z site

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something along those lines

rough sapphire
#

yeah pandas it is

river anvil
#

okay thanks ill get to learning it

#

maybe datacamp has a thing on it

rough sapphire
#

take the pandas course on datacamp.. it lays itout

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yeah

river anvil
#

it does?

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coolio

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im learning some stuff about charts

#

not really my thing rn

gentle moss
#

00:45] doodspav: @gentle moss can i make a burger in a non stick pan?

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@sullen thorn

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this is literally the best way to cook burgers

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stick pans don't like uhhh

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char / brown the outside of the meat as well

#

leading to a more bland flavour

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ideally you want to cook them in a cast iron skillet or some such

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wait, i just woke up and got that all the wrong way around

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find / replace stick with non-stick

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lemon's advice for cooking a burger in a non-stick pan is great

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should wake up before letting my hands touch a keyboard

sand goblet
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Oh, hey @gentle moss

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I oven my burgers

gentle moss
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there's nothing wrong with that

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i mean if you like being subpar

sand goblet
#

I still get that char, so it works

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:P

gentle moss
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:D

sand goblet
#

It's always at like 230 though

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and I always put something in them that'll char

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like crushed nachos or cheese

gentle moss
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it's usually pretty good because the time it takes to do chips and a burger in an oven are about the same

sand goblet
#

Yeah, those fucking mccain gastro chips

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same temperature, same time

gentle moss
#

unless you have an oven like i have

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where the bottom is like 50c cooler than the top

sand goblet
#

We have a neff oven

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so you better bet it works properly

gentle moss
#

i used my laser thermometer to map out how my oven works

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👌

sand goblet
#

it's a real basic oven for neff

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and really annoying to clean

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it does have a self cleaning thing but it's only for the back wall

gentle moss
#

mine's just a gas flame in a box

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:D

sand goblet
#

oh jeez, yeah, not a fan of gas :P

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gas hob, electric oven

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pls

gentle moss
#

yeah, weak as shit ovens

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top always gets cooked faster than lower down

sand goblet
#

yeah

gentle moss
#

so you've got to stagger deployment

sand goblet
#

hahaha I just remembered

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I bought a foccacia once when I was house sharing and baked it in the gas oven

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it came out really well, despite everything

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and the guy I was sharing with tried a bit

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and he was like "what the hell is this"

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"foccucia?"

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"I'm gonna get me some goddamn foccucias"

gentle moss
#

ford focusias

sand goblet
#

haha

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I've made my own foccucias since :>

gentle moss
#

right, now i'm going to the supermarket and this time i'm actually going to buy those god damn fucking coffee pods

sand goblet
#

Sounds good

gentle moss
#

3rd times a charm

sand goblet
#

maybe get google assistant to remind you when you get there eh?

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"Hey google, when I get to tesco, remind me to buy coffee pods"

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location reminders are great

rough sapphire
#

yeah GA is pretty cool

#

do you have talk like pikachu in your country

sand goblet
#

we do yeah

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I do like Alexa better at home though

rough sapphire
#

Alexa listens in and tries to sell you stuff all the time though :v

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I had an alexa.. sold it in a heartbeat.. creepy af

sand goblet
#

you clearly don't have an echo

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that's not a thing

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lol

languid kelp
#
Alexa, play Despacito
rough sapphire
#

it was.. like this was back in august

sand goblet
#

it's not a thing, mostly because I don't have the upload speeds for that

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that's how I know

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I'm monitoring

rough sapphire
#

cool cool..

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maybe it doesnt do that now.. i dont know

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but I know they sent packets then

sand goblet
#

I mean I've had this thing for like a year now

rough sapphire
#

the same as your android..

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or iphone..

sand goblet
#

but consider three things

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first of all, it doesn't have voice recognition on device, it has to ship it back to amazon for that

#

secondly, alexa apps have a notification system

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and thirdly, the alexa setup has a whole communications platform built in

gentle moss
#

okay so i just heard off my boss that the local lidl has kangaroo meat

sand goblet
#

it should not be surprising that it phones home

gentle moss
#

i was just going to get coffee pods

sand goblet
#

bisk, yes, they also tend to have ostrich

gentle moss
#

okay jesus i'm going to lidl

sand goblet
#

haha

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check the freezers

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never know what you'll find

#

I saw bison there once

gentle moss
#

what's the difference between a buffalo and a bison?

rough sapphire
#

bisons are bigger?

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buffalo says moo

gentle moss
#

nah, you can wash yer 'ands in a bison.

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UK regional accent joke.

rough sapphire
#

moo?

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UK.. too big of a region

gentle moss
#

for a tiny island we do all talk very weird about the place

sand goblet
#

it's not that big

gentle moss
#

well, i mean most of them talk weird

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i talk normal, innit

rough sapphire
#

scot and Irish accents are nice.. so is cockney.. but there's one that just sounds plain pompous to my ears (not sure what they call it)

sand goblet
#

most people don't think they have an accent

#

it's hilarious

rough sapphire
#

everyone has an accent :v

sand goblet
#

yup

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actually I knew a girl once that didn't really use tone of voice in her speaking

#

it turned out she was tone deaf

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so I guess that figures

rough sapphire
#

aww

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never met anyone tone deaf before..

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maybe ahem women from a certain country..because they're always screaming..

sand goblet
#

it's a fairly rare thing

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I only found out by accident when I asked what kind of music she was into lol

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never occured to me

rough sapphire
#

curious

#

what music was she into

sand goblet
#

She wasn't.

gentle moss
#

kraftwerk

#

badumtsh

rough sapphire
#

wtf

sand goblet
#

hahaha

#

TROUSER PRESS

gentle moss
#

DERHOSENBUGLER

sullen thorn
#

@gentle moss i’m lost, is non stick good or bad?

rough sapphire
#

uhhh

sand goblet
#

fucking hilarious

gentle moss
#

non-stick is just another way to cook things

rough sapphire
#

I was listening to this today

gentle moss
#

but stick pans can create a different result

rough sapphire
#

36:23 ..check it out

sullen thorn
#

Ok but u had a whole rant about how one of them was better

gentle moss
#

i prefer how a stick pan does meat

sullen thorn
#

Oh :/

gentle moss
#

but you can still get good meat out of a non-stick pan

sand goblet
gentle moss
#

lemons advice was good

sand goblet
#

here you go

sullen thorn
#

My Philly cheesesteak turned out alright on non stick 😃

gentle moss
#

the fucking segway bit killed me

#

and tbh, i've stayed in a few hotels that had trouser presses and holy shit they're great

#

just warm up your trousers before you go out

sand goblet
#

aw, this laptop's sound is broken

rough sapphire
#

ok guys.. see you tomorrow.. have to grab dinner..

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im in the mood for a burger

sand goblet
#

I plugged earphones into it and now I guess it will only do earphones

gentle moss
#

my mum went to see them live

#

and she said it was the best show of her life

#

but her life is quite dull

sand goblet
#

haha

#

I mean it is pretty amusing, this song

#

ooh-aah-ooh-aah

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or ooh ARGH ooh ARGH if you're bill

#

okay back to pretending that I'll ever know how to django

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while eating organic ginger biscuits

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(they're square so they taste better)

#

What is it that chef john says? People like pointy food?

gentle moss
#

i fucking hate being in lidl

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but i appreciate what it does and what it stands for

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plus i was only able to find decent duck breast

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no exotic meats

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:(

rough sapphire
#

I like the cheap beer the stock at lidl.. it's quite nice

#

do you get Shark fin there?

gentle moss
#

er, no

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i've just heard about the exotic meats from others

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boss told me they had kangaroo and gdude said ostrich

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my local one apparently does not

rough sapphire
#

protest

gentle moss
#

well, we've got a local butcher who also does that kind of stuff

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but you've got to get there at the right time else it's gone

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alligator, kangaroo, zebra, etc

sand goblet
#

They don't always have it

rough sapphire
#

hmm I know in Spain they freeze the stuff and keep it for months

sand goblet
#

I've seen it a bunch of times though

#

Aldi often has entire lobsters as well

gentle moss
#

yeah, in lidl it's in the frozen section

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but at that butcher's it's pretty damn fresh

rough sapphire
#

cool cool

#

alligator is pretty good.. you should try shark if you can get it

gentle moss
#

i also got a 500ml bottle of ouzo for £8.50

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sooooo

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also i'm not sure shark is so available in the UK

#

i think there's a bit of a taboo or maybe laws against eating shark fins and shit

#

although i guess what type of shark it's from

#

we currently have a problem where endangered fish are being caught and sold as generic fish like hake or flake

sand goblet
#

of course the UK would have that problem

#

it would have to be you idiots :P

rough sapphire
#

cant wait for brexit

#

woo

sullen thorn
#

Ouzo ftw

rough sapphire
#

you can get shark on portuguese islands

#

not sure about the mainland

gentle moss
#

Seems like a thing that shouldn't be eaten but I'd like to try it

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Like panda

rough sapphire
#

no....

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why panda.. omg..

#

the Chinese will have you arrested

gentle moss
#

They're fat lazy shits who spend all day eating a grass.

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They're like cows but bears

rough sapphire
#

I don't think I could eat a bear..

vapid bluff
#

shark finning is a huge issue

rough sapphire
#

I had shark fin last night.. it was tiny.. tbh

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but soft and tender..

gentle moss
#

Iirc there are cases where they catch shark, cut the fin off, then just chuck the rest back

rough sapphire
#

back home we used to eat all parts of the shark.. but in east asia they just keep the fin yeah

vapid bluff
#

Shark finning has caused catastrophic harm to the marine ecosystem.[9] Roughly 73 million sharks are killed each year by finning,[9] though some estimate that finning kills 100 million sharks each year.[10] A variety of shark species are threatened by shark finning, including the endangered scalloped hammerhead shark.[10]

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straight from the wiki's mouth

gentle moss
#

Womp womp

#

You're an awful person tron

rough sapphire
#

wiki is not very reliable :v anyone can edit you know.. not that I dispute this particular reporting

gentle moss
#

Wikipedia says so

vapid bluff
#

they have sources

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all those numbers are citations you can click to see the source down at the bottom in the biblio

rough sapphire
#

like I said

gentle moss
#

i mean, i'm no saint

rough sapphire
#

not this particular one..

gentle moss
#

i've eaten goose that's illegal to shoot that was "accidentally" shot by a game keeper

rough sapphire
#

but know that there are armies of trolls who maintain articles..

gentle moss
#

or that time i ate this tiny bird that is cooked whole and you put the whole thing in your mouth

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bones and all

rough sapphire
#

where I'm from there are too many sharks so fishing keeps it under check..

gentle moss
#

smooth on the outside, crunchy on the inside

#

i believe that dish is illegal

#

i've also had suckling pig

rough sapphire
#

speaking of crunchy on the inside.. balut.. is eww

gentle moss
#

which is like a 4-6 week old piglet whole

#

that's also illegal

#

but so, so delicious

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shark finning seems worse though

sand goblet
#

The ortolan (Emberiza hortulana) or ortolan bunting, is a bird in the bunting family Emberizidae, a passerine family now separated by most modern scholars from the finches, Fringillidae. The genus name Emberiza is from Old High German Embritz, a bunting. The specific hortulan...

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this is what you're thinking of

gentle moss
#

idk the restaurant couldn't charge us for the meal but we paid a big service charge

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:3

sand goblet
#

basically they put the birds in a dark cage, where they instinctively gorge themselves until twice their weight

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and then they drown them in alcohol

gentle moss
#

oh

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so like foie gras but worse

#

i'm now starting to think i've eaten worse things than shark fin

rough sapphire
#

you guys reminded me

#

it was funny..

#

I believe some vegans are at it in sussex as well.. these people should be considered as terrorists

gentle moss
#

i mean, if you're going to protest against the eating of meat at a place that cooks meat

#

maybe be prepared for some slap back

#

also, terrorists is a bit far

rough sapphire
#

it was great for business apparently..

#

I mean same thing applies.. there are religious terrorists.. now there are vegan terrorists

#

people who impose their view on others through violence... totally classifies

gentle moss
#

not sure i've seen many violent vegan protestors to be fair

#

plus i mean, they don't eat meat

rough sapphire
gentle moss
#

what sort of resistance can they really propose

#

that's not violence that's criminal damage

rough sapphire
#

potato potaato

gentle moss
#

no

rough sapphire
#

Oui

gentle moss
#

when anti-abortion protestors shoot dead doctors or bomb clinics, that's terrorism

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some twats smashing up a butcher is criminal damage

rough sapphire
#

hmm some countries dont make that distinction.. (the latter I mean) not really aware of any incidents of the former

#

abortion is not an issue in Asia

#

also..does anyone know what cush nats are

gentle moss
#

It's a huge issue in the States and Northern Ireland

rough sapphire
#

I hear they just legalized third trimester abortion in NY state..

#

and virginia governor was proposing post-birth abortions

#

lol

gentle moss
#

erm

#

you heard wrong

#

and probably from some complete bullshit website spreading falsehoods

rough sapphire
gentle moss
#

i rest my case

rough sapphire
#

its not true?:o

gentle moss
#

"Northam, a pediatric neurologist, described a hypothetical situation where a severely deformed newborn infant could be left to die."

#

the law was designed for cases of serious medical emergency

rough sapphire
gentle moss
#

where the pregnancy is basically like... fucking pointless or harmful

rough sapphire
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there is a video and everything

gentle moss
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i'm aware of the topic

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i follow US politics closely

rough sapphire
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some obgyns testified there was absolutely no reason.. unless the foetus was already stillborn, in which case it's not called abortion..

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ok.. off for dinner

gentle moss
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this is the problem with the american right

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they don't give a shit about women's health or reproductive rights to the point that a genuine medical proceedure which is in the best interest of the parent and child should remain illegal because THINK OF THE CHILDREN

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IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE BEFORE WE'RE ALLOWED TO ABORT OUR 17 YEAR OLDS BEFORE THEY TURN 18

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I'm willing to bet a number of parents of U.S. Senators would wish they could still abort them

rough sapphire
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American women should be allowed to abort up till birth... regardless of whether it's for health reasons or not

gentle moss
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so if they have a pregnancy that could kill them during labour?

rough sapphire
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wut

gentle moss
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you did read the bill, right?

rough sapphire
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Im pro abortion

gentle moss
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or just a few daily mail articles?

rough sapphire
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read what I posted.. lol

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like.. it's up to them.. they should get to decide.. what if men walk out on them and they have to raise the child alone..

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they should be able to abort whenever.. because it's their body and they should be able to choose whether to keep it or not

gentle moss
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I'm saying that the bill and its intended effects are being grossly misreported by sensationalist media outlets to stoke up a base

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at least imo

rough sapphire
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because if we cite health reasons, then the doctor might have a say.. if the doctor is biased they won't be able to get an abortion

gentle moss
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That's why, if you read the actual legislative proposal, you'll see it needs the confirmation of MULTIPLE doctors and has a strict criteria of when it can be done

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circumstances etc

rough sapphire
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hmm I feel it's too strict

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women should be solely be able to choose without having doctors to give their say

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in case of catholic hospitals..what do you think the doctors are going to say

gentle moss
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well, if a doctor can't uphold his hippocratic oath because of his religion

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he shouldn't be a fucking doctor

rough sapphire
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well you can never tell.. who thinks what..

gentle moss
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I'm glad I live in a country that isn't full of potentially thick as shit doctors who refuse to do the best for their patient because of their religious beliefs

rough sapphire
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how are the drug costs over there

gentle moss
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cheap.

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£8.50 per prescription, regardless of drug.

rough sapphire
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wow:o

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insane

gentle moss
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yah, and if you're in poverty etc they're free.

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that's the best part of a national health service

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everyone pays in but only a few people need help so the cost is well distributed

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plus when you go to purchase drugs off a drug company you have more negotiating power because you're an entire country rather than 1 hospital or insurer (like in the USA)

vapid bluff
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hypothetically, if there was an epidemic or something where the numbers of people needing care went up significantly, would the prices adjust too?

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oh wait, i think pandemic* is the one i mean

rough sapphire
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I dont think that would affect drug prices

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because drug and healthcare companies usually work on predicting those

vapid bluff
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assume it's unforeseen

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and all of a sudden you have a huge surge of people needing healthcare and drugs

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how does a system like the NHS account for that?

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is there some kind of budget buffer?

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would the government maybe divert funds from other places?

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any public health researchers in the house? 😛

gentle moss
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that happened btw

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Tamiflu was a perfect example

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but that was way more of a scandle n shit

vapid bluff
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huh, i see

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time to go down a tamiflu rabbit hole

sand goblet
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Scandal. :P

gentle moss
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yeah, i realised after i did it

sand goblet
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xD

gentle moss
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i was writing candle

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and was like "yeah just chuck an s on that"

sand goblet
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Yeah, it's an S-Candle!

vapid bluff
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light up the scandles

sand goblet
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a super candle!

gentle moss
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long story short: the swine flu thing made a big scare and tamiflu was suggested (due to selective study publication) that it was way better at curing shit than it actually was

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and governments stockpiled the stuff

sand goblet
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no embed? boooo

gentle moss
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haha

vapid bluff
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did they temporarily increase the price of all drugs during that?

gentle moss
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no

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but they purchased shit loads of tamiflu at a high price when alternative cheaper drugs were just as good

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and then the swine flu outbreak really wasn't as bad as everyone thought

vapid bluff
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oh i see. so they still had a fairly good amount of time to predict a potential surge

gentle moss
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hyperbole in the media and selectively published phrama data from the company that made it, basically caused a surge in a drug that had no real benefit over generics but cost more

gentle moss
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man, ouzo takes me back to when i was a kid

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eating those little blackjack sweets

gentle moss
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👌

sand goblet
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I remember that

gentle moss
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it's really pretty

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lyrically and conceptually

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i've watched a lot of hadfield's space vlogs

sand goblet
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sadly it's not on spotify so I can't listen right now

gentle moss
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i can't believe Bowie's publisher yanked his version of Space Oddity

sand goblet
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It's on spotify

gentle moss
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yeah, now it is

sand goblet
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ah right

gentle moss
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when it was first released they slapped the shit out of it with DMCA

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like... wtf?! it's marketing gold

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it's literally the perfect song for an astronaut to sing in god damn space

sand goblet
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haha

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yeah

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that's dumb

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I say here as I listen to a song about ice-cream

gentle moss
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publishers gonna be dicks about their rights before they think about what it means in the long term

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protectionism

sand goblet
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yup

gentle moss
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is it Satan's Ice Cream Truck by Strapping Young Lad?

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if not, check that one out ¬_¬

sand goblet
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haha, no, it's not

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it's kyary pamyu pamyu

gentle moss
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oh yeah i can get behind that

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but srsly, check out the SYL track

sand goblet
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and now this is the scooter one

gentle moss
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it's disturbing but amusing

sand goblet
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I probably shouldn't at work

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:P

gentle moss
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:D