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He has
XD
Dont think..m
Would be cool, if you could run programs in github. But that will open a way for hackers to use it wrong
cant you get github to host live scripts for u?
Why there isnt #math channel??
There's not a lot of discussion about Python-related math and we do have three off-topic channels to discuss things not directly related to Python.
Math applied to statistics/data science is obviously being discussed from time to time in #data-science-and-ml
hey guys, how important would you say it is, to read other people's code
like for practice n stuff
it's probably the best way to learn new ideas and concepts after you've read books
at least for me
hmm fair point
reading other people's code then making your own modifications or contributions afterwards is most definitely going to improve your overall programming skills.
don't be afraid to play around with stuff to see how it works - or how it breaks :^)
Stop it juan, I wont ever read your code again
:(
great :D feel free to ask here if you'd like some clarification for a tricky bit of code you come across. don't forget to practice with your own projects too ^-^
sure thing!
Is there some code-base on some git* that you would especially recommend to learn from? (Which is not discord plz)
(ping me)
you'll probably want to find something that interests you so that you don't feel like you're having a lecture or something.
I did try looking into pandas code only to realize a great part is written in C
@tulip palm
Depending on your experience, I would recommend looking at what people have done with python
Not libraries
For instance #303934982764625920
Module writing and working on a particular project are quite a bit different
Interesting move
So will I be able to see Disney movies on Netflix again now xD
disney is comming with its own streaming service in a few months are they not?
I think so, yeah
With the fragmentation of the streaming market I wonder if the decrease in torrenting will halt
if there is a subset of users in both "i would like to buy this but cant" and "ill just torrent it" camp
Oh ffs look at it than. You'll need to pay 60⬠a month if you want to have all the films you want iirc
Disney: Own streaming service; Took over 20th Century Fox recently, WB: Own streaming service, I guess Universal goes with comcast means it goes with Sky -> Sky Q with Netflix costs 20ā¬, and than Amazon is in contact with Sony and Paramount...
netflix, hbo?
yeah, everyone want to have their own, but forget to realize that people cannot buy everything if it costs 20 USD each
Crap isnt it
People pay a lot of money for cable in some countries.
Why cant they just put it on one streaming service and all get their profits from it
Because they want to cut out the middle person
But there shouldn't be a middle person if their staff is the services' staff as well
Like a little parliament
than again this might lead to one huge monopoly
i wounder what cable would cost me.. like a basic package, without movie, sport or anything special..
Yeah, although to compare it to a streaming service you may have to include movie services and maybe on demand as well.
sure.. ill do that
cable is practicly free here though
netflix is the more expensive of the two for me
when will we know what the codeJam is about?
When it starts, the task will be revealed
you could still do it on your own but not with the codeJam
like do it for fun
and not enter
Nah, I don't really have the motivation for that
@sand goblet

nothing
then don't ping me, please
ok, sorry
Cable can get pretty expensive. I think the avg person could cut out cable and replace with 4-5 streaming services and come out on top.
:^)
no problem
@steel fox Now explain that to my siblings, please.
Except, less streaming services.
@gaunt iris On the topic of extra monitors, you might want to see if you can get a portrait-style monitor, and if your current monitor rotates to a vertical position.
I've found myself scouring ebay over the last week looking for a used portrait monitor, as some applications, like Pycharm, Discord, and some websites, look a lot better in portrait mode.
ok
maybe its wron gbecause i installed 32 bit
anyways
the other course i was doing was using code skulptor
ill just go back to that and find w.e value I can in this begginer course
:|
@gusty plover If you're up for the challenge, you can just jump into C++
I've heard a lot of people suggest learning C first, because it's smaller.
If you're asking whether or not you shouold learn C/C++ in general, I would say yes. It's a godfather to so many languages, it's incredibly enlightening even if you never use it.
the issue with "learning C first" is that good C++ looks very different from C.
That's true, because it abstracts a lot of the elbow grease required for C and early C++. It's not a bad idea to experience the problem before you work with the solution. I started with C++ and did fine, so it's not a huge deal, just what I've seen people say
C will teach you habits that are considered bad practice in C++
Shit, Python will teach you habits that are considered bad practice in C++
Java will teach you habits that are bad practice in Python
etc
That's fairly different
Only marginally. Modern C++ could be considered a different language than earlier versions, since it's evolved so much
yes
Hence why learning C before C++ is a stupid idea because it will teach you to write pragmatic C which is not C++
it is C
My arguement is it you won't appreciate the advantages of modern C if you don't experience the problems it solves
Yeah I must agree, I would argue that starting with C is one of the best ways to do it still
Hence why learning C before C++ is a stupid idea because it will teach you to write pragmatic C which is not C++ I mean you can make the same argument for any language. It only holds if you're incapable of aligning with the paradigm of whatever language you're working with at the moment. For most people, I would argue that knowing a lower level language is an enlightenment rather than a drawback.
Being unable to recognize the differences is a problem with the programmer, not the language.
That being said, it's really up to the individual. Sometimes starting "top-down" with a language like Python is the best way to introduce programatic thinking. Then they can work their way down to lower-level languages to understand the roots of what they learned.
Yeah, absolutely. The problem I see most often with people who start with Python is that they are attempting fairly difficult problems while lacking even the most basic knowledge, like how variables and types work. Even a language like Java will force you to think about this, and develop at least some understanding, because your code simply won't compile without it. I'm very careful not to have a gatekeeper attitude though, Python can definitely be a good beginner language. As you said, it depends on the individual.
The biggest pitfall with Python is it's so powerful, it allows people that don't know very much to accomplish a lot. This means you'll get a lot of people who just stop learning more because they are able to do what they want
Tbf you should be type hinting python in the same way other languages require types. If you donāt, itās not good code. Itās just not taught in most beginner courses for whatever reason.
That's why Python is considered a "bad" starting place by many people
But also yeah. Thereās kinda two ways to think about it. Some people think starting low level is best because it makes you think about it. Others suggest python or another super abstracted language because it lets you get up and running faster and doesnāt have many of the early pitfalls that could turn people off of@coding
Exactly. Then there's languages like Rust where it's just a bad idea to start with in general.
Thereās pros and cons to both. I think in a formal education setting low level is best because you can get the context needed with it. Whereas self teaching it may be better to use python or something to just learn by doing without the need for knowing that you canāt use an array for infinite size. You need a vector, etc
Yeah the latter was what I ended up doing
The downside is self teaching tends to miss out on ADTs and stuff which is really important
ADTs?
And that's why "The Art of Computer Programming" is a godsend
also are the official docs on type hinting good enough or is there a better place to learn?
There's the typing library
Official docs are fine
Itās not a hard thing to try to learn. And ADTs are abstract data types.
Things like stacks, queues, maps, partitions
oh, is the site Problem Solving with Algorithms and Data Structures using Python good enough if Iām self learning?
That I donāt know. Iāve never used the resource
But itās also something youāre going to be referencing a lot throughout a career in development. Itās not something youāll like memorize completely. So just becoming familiar and having a vague idea of āI should use X hereā is pretty good
Also, ADTs aren't really language-specific. There is an important distinction between an ADT and its implementation. A C++ developer will be working with the same idea of a stack as a Python developer, although both are probably using different implementations.
Therefore, I would argue learning the idea behind the ADT and then having a go at implementing it yourself in your language of choice is a good way to learn.
Yeah for sure
I just meant in general ADTs and algorithms arenāt studied by self taught developers normally but theyāre a huge part to writing good code
I agree
What things that are often forgotten in beginners courses should I learn for python then?
So far I have ADTs
And type hinting
What's an ADT lmao
My guess would be "abstract data types"
I think the anthem demo starts in an hour and 45 mins from what this article says if I converted the times correctly, does anyone else know the start time?
that button has been there for a while my guy
@sullen thorn I enjoy using Loguru: https://github.com/Delgan/loguru for logging . Makes logging very simple :-)
Logging with print statements š
I actually kinda like that.
I wonder if that's as robust as the native logging module that I don't entirely understand in theory and practice
well, i like the last feature it has:
10x faster than built-in logging

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less boilerplate i believe
import logging
logging.basicConfig(level=logging.DEBUG) # minimum level it logs
logger = logging.getLogger("name")
logger.log("msg")
not sure how much simpler you can get
from loguru import logger
logger.debug("That's it, beautiful and simple logging!")
that?
ok but you dont even need to getLogger
you can just do logging.log()
and yeah loguru gets rid of basiconfig(), but what if u want to change the minimum log level? (which imo is quite important to logging)
level can be set too
(and you technically dont even need basiconfig)
import logging
logging.error("msg")
you can technically just do that
Oh shit hype
Isee these videos called "how to make 8 bit retro music" or "how to make 8bit retro pixel art" and the "8-bit" art goes WAAAYYYY ABOVE THE 8 bit limit
8bit is generally now about color & art style now and not really the size limit
Loguru seems awesome
I've been using logging for years, and while it's a solid well-written library, it has it's limitations and quirks
Especially for user-facing CLI applications
Which loguru helps immensely with
Handling exceptions, configuring various handlers, configuration on the fly, named parameters, colors, and simplified setup
Like, here's a util function I use in various forms in CLI projects: https://github.com/GhostofGoes/ADLES/blob/wip/adles/utils.py#L128
It's a bit of a hack
Yes
I don't see why not.
It's not the same
The end result is the same but it's slightly slower
iirc anyway
It might be optimised out by the compiler but I'm not sure
It takes one more evaluation than the other
If it even works like that, I'm just guessing
>>> def func():
... return 2*"\n"
...
>>> import dis
>>> dis.dis(func)
2 0 LOAD_CONST 1 ('\n\n')
2 RETURN_VALUE
it gets optimised
yeah
this is why we can't have nice things
[13:39] gdude: But using the constant is generally still better
[13:39] gdude: For readability
For repeating a character or string, x*string is more readable and faster to modify imo
Like just increment or decrement x
This is for general usage
"newline dude"
And to modify the number of newlines to an arbitrary number
Letting the compiler optimise out is far easier
if you have tens or hundreds of repeats, yes. I'd totally prefer '\n' * 42 over '\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n' - but not for two or three of them
i think both "\n\n" and 2 * "\n" are perfectly clear and there's no difference to which you use
cheap laptop, linux. recommendations?
if i get an x220 is it gonna take me 100 years to compile anything
hsssss
When you want to help but you look at the code and it looks complex... š¬
why haven't you restarted the game @lilac glade
if it loads for like a minute I just restart
not that I've been able to play a mission the few times I've tried but I've loaded into the game a few times
I'm a cucumber
#supportyounglemons
haven't had anthem open all day yet its been using up memory this entire time probably
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Waa
Proof that javascript encourages slaughtering children
i mean the asyncio module has an AbstractChildWatcher class iirc so that speaks for itself. probably not the best topic to discuss here though :D
E.E
JS is just pro-choice
At least theyāre only removing it and not sacrificing it
Some places they either kill the parents or sacrifice the child
i make my applications so if the parents are killed the orphans kill themselves
r/nocontext
lol
e.e
Skynard
Too many vowels in there, if you mean Lynyrd skynyrd
y is a vowel š¤
apparently that's called a semivowel
its a vowel in mystery
Wah..
I'm sure they "could" attempt to ban social media... but what the fuck
It's like banning envelopes because sometimes people put glitter in them
i saw the debate on that
wasn't very interesting
most of the focus was on providing adequate mental health support
although there was the edging towards censorship
but uk politicians will always jump at the chance to control more of our lives so that's expected
as long as we dont turn into australia, we should be alright
Are you referring to the anti-encryption law?
dood: implying we aren't a proud member of five eyes
that anti-encryption law made me sad
i thought the Aussies were cool but obviously not
wait anti-encryption law?
maybe?
the thing where you have to provide a backdoor if asked, and cant tell your company?
or something like that
didnt that pass?
something like that
oh yeah that is the anti-encryption law
I believe some norwegian schools has started to ban phones overral during school hours
That's kind of a social media bad 
It varies on the high school here, some will let you have phones out at break/lunch
Others just say that you can't use them at all
At college they're pretty chill about it, The teacher will just ask you to put it away if you're not paying any attention
In uni i have only met one professor that asked us to at least hide them
She got nervous when she saw phones pointing in her general direction
I havenāt had Professorās when I was in Uni care at all
is it me or are kids generally weak these days..
trigger warnings, being pushed into suicide because of social media posts/bullying.. parents need to teach kids the value of life and hardwork.. which I suppose is hard when they don't know it themselves..
@rough sapphire This isn't the place for that sort of thing
I thought it was related to the above topic..
That's also not appropriate
but please update the channel description if you see fit "no personal views allowed"
or "any topic related to self abuse"
There are some topics we prefer to avoid
I understand.. but there should be a doc..
No worries
Most guidelines would be discord related itself
Based on what they want on their partnered servers
Sorry, but you may only use this command within #bot-commands.
Darn it JosƩ what have I said about using commands in here
my excuse for most things is, I didn't know ĖĖ" hey live and learn
Might not always work
You cant just walk into a store, grab something, walk out and respond with I didnt know it was stealing when they bring you back in
well technically I can.. might not be the best excuse.. but it's a possible scenario
I can't think of any situation where you'd walk out of that store without some form of punishment
Unless you were either 5yo or 85
Or maybe had a mental illness to justify the action
I think Tron means that it's possible for them to respond like that, but that it'll be useless anyway
Pretty much, the second it affects others its a lot harder to go by I didnt know
So, fun story time
Okay, I lied, it's not a fun story, but
A couple of years ago, I was shopping when my mother called me to tell me that my grandmother's health had deteriorated and I should come to the hospital.
So, I kinda walked out of the store in a bit of shock with an item in my hand
Caught myself at the last moment and went back in
It was a small boutique with no security system of note and they didn't even notice me, but still
Have had that happen a lot where I work
the worst I've done is eating the merchandise while standing at the check out line.. I was hungry :v and technically was going to pay for it anyway..
Where people come back with goods they've "stole" by accident
I stole a chocolate bar as a kid
Like 5 yo kid, went shopping with parents. They saw I was eating chocolate when we got in the car and realized what I'd done. (They went back in to pay for it)
My guess is that a lot of trashy parents would just leave
True
never stole anything.. but ran a delete everything command on a unix server that the other class was logged into for an exam (it was a practice exam) and I wanted to see if the command would work.. they had to sit another hour to finish..
Does that still haunt you?
was a long time ago.. back in college.. no one knows..
not really.. it was funny at the time.. lol.. but I still remember..
I think I'd feel really guilty
why though
it wasn't a real exam..
if anything I gave them more practice.. and if I told them now they wouldn't even bother about it..
this was 2011 or 2012 I think
You can say that about a lot of shit, but that's not an excuse for actually doing it
It's not the cause of the end of the world, sure, but I wouldn't like to just do that, even on accident
well yeah.. I wouldnt do it now of course..lol
Wait, I don't mean you should feel guilty now, by the way
But, just after it happened, I'd feel pretty guilty, knowing myself
as a programmer, what do you think about trump?
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Idc too much about him, but I'm Norwegian and just watch what he does now and then for entertainment
Trump is far less of a big deal across the pond here as he'd like to be
We just think he's an idiot
But really, a programmer isn't likely to have much of a different opinion on the guy than anyone else
I think that the moment he represents, the anti-acedemic, anti-enviroment, and anti-international movement in America, is troublesome.
I think he's what America needs.. The other parties have been divisive and used divisive politics to make people accept victimhood as part of their identity.. qualified Immigrants are giving up on the American dream because they see these divisive parties inviting more disenfranchised people into the country just to pad their vote banks..
Trump as an answer to divisiveness, I haven't heard that one before.
it's what I've seen.. do you remember what Clinton did? mass incarceration of black males to take advantage of black communities, and Trump is actually remedying that by giving them a second chance.. the media didnt cover this
I feel that the media paints in him in a bad light, as racist and with every other -ism conceivable, but when he was a celeb and not a Presidential candidate he was adored by the black community, they sang songs about him, gave him awards for helping them through his charities.. etc.. But you have to remember that H clinton had close to a billion $ in campaign spending.. and they control most of the media now.. they can do whatever they want which is more dangerous
I have a whole different perspective on that, as I don't follow American media that much. Therefore, I think the claim that his negative image in the media is because the media is controlled by Clinton is ridiculous.
Unless you think Clinton somehow controls the media worldwide
There have been plenty of claims about Europe during his campaign and most of them were lies and very transparent attempts at fearmongering.
His administration has even appointed an ambassador to my country who, on multiple occasions, lied and spread propaganda about my country in the US to create fear for immigrants and moslims.
Stuff like that politicians were burned in my country and that there were "no-go zones" controlled by radical moslim immigrants
All lies, all propaganda. When he was called out on it, he said that it was "fake news" that he said that, eventhough it's all recorded.
So, no, I don't think it's a case of Clinton-controlled media
I don't think it's just Clinton.. she has powerful backers, just like her party.. if you followed the wikileaks emails it details how they intended to use minorities for their political gain..
I don't understand people's hatred towards Trump.. I do follow every form of American media though I'm not American and the bias is sickening.. did you follow what they did to the Covington boys?
He said something about Sweden, that turned out to be true, about the UK as well.. grooming gangs.. for me, I don't care what someone's religion or sexual identity is, they shouldn't use it to subvert laws or take advantage of other people..the law is the law and it applies equally to everyone..
Ambassadors always do that.. I don't think his people are all squeaky clean.. Mattis had invested in Theranos and they let her off easy because of this.. but his people for the moment are the lesser evil..
What do you mean by ambassadors always do that?
at least he's not starting any wars unlike his predecessor.. yeah.. they do !
US ambassadors have always done that worldover..
He wasn't an ambassador when he made those comment, but that doesn't matter
perhaps not about that certain topic but they always have something they want to promote
that supports their own country's interests..
He said that politicians were being burned in my country (absolutely not true) and that there were no-go zones in my country (also not true)
I think that's not what ambassadors do
No, they don't
That would go contrary to their job, which is to be an ambassador
It's irrelevant anyway, because said person was not an ambassador when he made those comments
He made those comments during the Trump campaign, before he was appointed ambassador by Trump
Trump's stance on the biggest issue we're facing, climate change, is enough reason by itself to have a dislike for Trump
I dont like his stance on climate change either.. but I dont support the things that people like Trudeau have done.. taxing people and claiming carbon credits are saving the world..without investing in green tech
I don't think deflecting and pointing fingers at others make what Trump does right
I like what this Ocasio lady is proposing for green tech but her methods are not viable either.. unless she finds a suitable alternative for where the $ will come from
His base is too obsessed with Clinton as well, Clinton's irrelevant to Trump's actions at this moment
He's the president, we should judge him for his actions
Instead of deflecting it by saying "but what about Clinton, reeee"
but reeeee
The whataboutism used in Trump's defense is appalling
like I said, I'd rather it be Trump because his actions defend basic freedoms unlike the other evils.. he still scores a 0 for climate focused initiatives..
What happened to the whiney monday ves
This one is filled with reasonable arguments

Let me delete that
And focus on work
I'm not in the greatest of moods today, sorry for that
I gave up on paying attention to my math lecture
Meh
Im too far behind to understand what shes babbling about

Haha, what kind of math is it? Linear Algebra?
I remember you saying something about that a while ago
Advanced or introductory?
I missed the first lecture and got my books late so havent caught up yet
Should be intro
Yeah, that's always an issue with math
But im poop in maths
There's a great introduction to linear algebra series on YouTube
It really helps as a kind of pre-intro introduction
Hm
Might consider it, but still havent met any resistance with the syllabus yet
I could answer any questions if you'd like:3 I got two engineering degrees
I imagine many viewers are already familiar with vectors in some context, so this video is intended both as a quick review of vector terminology, as well as ...
I'm going to go back to my own linear algebra problems
I have like one question I cant solve for some reason and its one of those the book doesnt provide a solution to either
Have fun with that
It's okay, it's just linear algebra applied to our research
Oh heck yeah 3b1b is my jam
Yeah, he's great
I had to give a lecture on Linear Algebra and I recommended it to my students
I have been watching those videoes @glass gorge to help you out if you need help š just as a catchup mechanics for my part š
though i know linear algebra, It is useful to get on par with my knowledge š
@oak tangle It's scary how pervasive Soviet rhetoric has made its way into political discourse
"But what about..."
Yeah, it's scary, but I'm not really in the mood for political conversations at the moment, so I'm going to steer away from it for now
That's just personal, though
So, feel free to discuss it nonetheless
If you would be so kind, what x and y be in these (x should be x1 and y x2 but for easy of phone typing)
x-5y = 1
3x-7y =5
Using matrix reduction I think it translates to
I reduced it and got -3 and -7 š
Or rather I got -1(3/4) and (1/4) but -3 and -7 at the right side of the equation
Can ss my notebook when I leave lecture
I'm going to write it out for you in a minute, okay?
Sure
I'll PM you
Figured this works as well
@glass gorge Does that help?
Probably not the most effective order of operations, but it doesn't really matter for the result
The idea should be the same
But the result doesn't fit the solution?
as in, shouldnt you be able to put in 1/4 and 9/4 as replacements for x1 and x2 in x1 - 5x2 and 3x1 - 7x2 and get 1 and 5 respectively
y = 1/4; x = 2 1/4
Look at the final note
I had the the rows reversed in the identity matri
1 * 2.25 + -5 * 1/4 = 1
3 * 2.25 + -7 * 1/4 = 5
also, i thought you could only mutiply row1 with a number and add it to row2 as replacement for row2
not subtract?
Book didnt tell me that 
but you're multiplying row1, subtracting it with row2 to replace row1 ?
Yeah, that doesn't matter

if 2x = 8, then 4x = 16
So.. You can scale any row
Yeah
Yes, but you usually want to end up the the identity matrix to the left of the vertical bar
(+ scale a single row, and interchange them)
So, you need to swap the rows as well (which is allowed)
This is what you can work with
Note nonzero scalar means both positive and negative, but not zero
i have a very pro c# + windows cs teacher
says that windows server is the only proper server os
all companies should use c#
its annoying how much he talks about it :/
š¢ I hope he recovers
@rain spindle do you mind if i have my mic muted?
Yeah sure
When finding a reduced echelon matrix in linear algebra and one of the rows turns out to be all 0s = a nonzero number, is the system inconsistent automatically then?
E.g
Last row on the last matrix means a1*0 + a2*0 + a3*0 = -5 making it inconsistent, right?
Discord, why
yey markdown
@oak tangle shameless ping of assistance
Youāre inconsistent.
Nou
areufrench
yes
@glass gorge Bed was too comfortable for linear algebra. Did you figure it out yet?
I think? But im not super sure
I'll look at it when I arrive at work. I'm a bit slow this morning
when will the Hackaton teams be revealed? ( Ķ×”Ö¼ ĶŹĶ”×”Ö¼)
Wow.
Nvidia: Our New Technologies Completely Slashes Your FPS In HalfĀ®
an apple a day takes your privacy away
Espescially on world privacy day
hmmm
siri, show me the definition of hubris
lol
i wonder if they had legal reasons that they could not modify the iphone or something
$1.3M is nothing for a corporation like that
i would be very surprised if they did not consider doing that since its a standard technique on regular computers
2 days for 4 digits, can you have more than 4 as your passcode on an iphone?
That would grow the time needed extremely fast
You can have up to 6 I think
i have 10
it is unlimited, you can have unlimited codes & unlimited text if you want it
I think people got used to 4 because simlock codes are 4 only
people also don't want too enter too many characters
[it used to be possible to store text messages and contacts on your sim card too]
That's still an option in my contacts app
that way you can put all your drug dealers or assassins or whatever behind the simlock
and the cops will have to get your data from the phone company when they bust you instead of getting it right out of your phone
wouldnt it be easier in america to get it from your phone company than from your iphone?
@glass gorge Yes, if you find a matrix with a full row or a columf full of 0s, 'inconsistent'
Dont know the exact terms in english
It's the correct term
iphones have the option for letters + other characters passcode instead of digit passcodes
yeah
2 owners, 3 Admins, 3 mods, 18 helpers
we have a large staff team, correct
And you are only seeing the online members
There are around 46 all together
(Staff combined)
i just realized 2 * 3 * 3 = 18
Prime factorization ftw
@bleak lintel 10? What are you hiding
wat
A 10 digit tap code
oh loll
nothing really i just like security
nearly all my passwords are above 100 characters as well
You should just follow the Lifetime Cieling
Which is the # of characters it would take for a computer to spend a lifetime bruteforcing
So like 10 characters?
I've been making it a habit to make obscenely long passwords with this https://passwordsgenerator.net/
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I potty train my neural network
Has it learned to go on its own without waking u up?
sadly it hasn't been trained enough to know what a potty is
I have to clean up every day
So for context, the full backstory is that this is effectively reverting a patch that landed in https://t.co/VEwX6ZsHTN, where a Google property broke and they changed the browser to not comply with the spec instead of fixing their website :(
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lol
In number theory, integer factorization is the decomposition of a composite number into a product of smaller integers. If these integers are further restricted to prime numbers, the process is called prime factorization.
When the numbers are sufficiently large, no efficient, ...
Just because it's an off topic channel doesn't mean you can spam
DONTHOLDBACK - lemkuuja (really gud song )
@rough sapphire yeah it is quite annoying when sites put max limits on passwords, I saw one limiting at 16 the other day which annoyed me enough not to use the service
I recently came across one that had a 12 character limit, alphanumeric only. No thanks.
was it case insensitive too?
chase and capital one both used to be case insensitive - i haven't checked recently, but capital one has at least raised its character limit [was 16, and very few allowed symbols] since
tfw you get your password in plain text through email
||do this|| ā ||do this||
You don't need special characters for a good password
that's a correct horse, where's the battery staple
No idea
:) "Saxophone Horse" by David Flavin and Roland Rudzitis, on iTunes and Amazon
source for that gif
:P
lol
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I remember when watch bots chat on twitch was a thing
and the reset command was correct horse battery staple, and chat would spam those emojis everytime they locked up
that's a paperclip, but good enough
:P
man I got a tap on the window just now
I printed 220 labels for someone today for them to stick onto 220 envelopes
I leave in 30 minutes
she just came in the door and asked me if I could do them and I was like "nope"
she was meant to do them this morning, they're for tomorrow
have fun, lady
Avsolutely no empathy at all š
well hey, I did what she wanted me to do almost 6.5 hours ago
she could've done it when she had time
this is such a huge organsation and yet so many people do nothing
I had to laminate a bunch of stuff today and didn't realise until the end that a few signs had ! instead of 1
like c'mon, proof read your signs, there's only 12 of them
Can I ask how old you are?
27 (I lied, 26, but 27 this year)
This year xd. The majority should be one year older bedore next year
Im 17 before next year
I dont think I will remember so; Happy early birthday
@bleak lintel petition to ban sharp for 24hrs until 13
well technically as it's 1am for sharp, he would be 13 now.
Guess we missed our chance to report him, unlike what Twitter has in place.
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
hm?
Something something joseph's still banned from Twitter for being underage when he made his account.
Not much, really. Just hanging out for now.
coolio
anything cool going on?
update_later.click()
what the shit
hmm yes
looks like a happy filesystem to me
those are the only two weirdo files
looks like a happy pair of drive sectors
delete system32?
@tulip palm in fact I extracted those from a zip file where they are named equally
Yes zip files
Those are known for fucking up characters HARD
especially if it somehow by sheer luck is decodable in some other encoding
I should stop working on Chinese 2 dollar wlan devices without knowing Chinese
No idea what it's caused by
Do you happen to know Chinese Joseph
no
why did g lose helper role?
You always seem to assume that roles have to be taken away
:P
The staff doesn't seem to be used to me being here and not being an owner
So being staff at all isn't a good option right now
If you want more detail than that, you'll have to get it from someone else.
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you don't care do you, you're just in it for the drama :P
That's what I thought.
drama is always fun when it doesnt affect u š¤·
Sorry to say but that's a point t
I don't know. I generally don't like drama, but that's maybe because I can usually relate to it.
@sand goblet A edgy teenager is a edgy teenager.
Jokes aside, get better soon man x
It's your birthday today, right?
Whatevers happening
@oak tangle that was a meme. I'm 17 and my birthday was last month
You were soo close to banning me for the day
Sadly Joseph and Juan know me to much
I think I did
yeah some of the helpers said we should ban but you'd already talked about your GCSEs before so something didn't add up lol
I really don't know what GSCEs are. PRobably some strange British school thing.
@bleak lintel heās playing the long con. I think heās only 12.
GCSEs are exams we take at 15-16 before A levels at 17-18 and then we go to uni @oak tangle
Ah, cool
General Certificate of Secondary Education
We only have one central exam thing before uni
At the end of what we call high school
It's 50% of your grade; the other 50% is from school exams during the last 2-3 years
Wait where are you from ves
The Netherlands
Oh, right. Yeah, that's not really a thing here
You choose a specialization, with a couple of electives, for the last 2-3 years of high school (depending on the level, we also split by level)
So, my specialization was Science/Technology (a lot of maths, physics, chemistry) with electives economy and music
Obviously, we have a base curriculum as well (Dutch, English, French, German)
Stuff like that
Probably something cultural as well, but my memories of high school are vague
I skipped a lot of classes and mainly played in my band
germany also got a system similar to what ves describes but the final exams dont count that much
I spent my last 2 years of HS in community college
I think I also did computer science
I don't really know what community college is or means
I hear that term a lot
I've got a vague idea
Ah, okay
your "attend classes and pass" system sounds a lot more relaxed than ours
So you work towards an associate of X instead of bachelors of X
event though the final exams are still 12 weeks away our teachers do intensiley remind us of the days left till the final exam every lesson
Theyāre like a stepping stone towards finishing a degree because theyāre cheaper
We also had to write some kind of thesis-like thing within your specialization
Haha
HS seems intense for you guys
the last two years are
You don't really have different levels in the US, right?
We have several different levels right from the start
It determines the level you can go to after high school (we've got mbo, hbo, university, maybe I'm missing something)
we have a seperation right after elementary into three different types of high school
only if you are allowed to attend the highest one you can attend uni later
hbo is marketed as "applied university" internationally. (It's a four-year bachelor degree; university is three year BA/BSc combined with one or two year MSc/MA)
Ah, yeah
You also have grade requirements for some university majors, right?
differs from university to university
I know we've got some German internationals because we don't have that
NC?
numerus clausus
your A levels average has to be < than x otherwise you may not study this
No, we do have requirements, as in, you must have completed these courses to qualify for these majors
Your grade only really matters if there's a numerus fixus (maximum number)
Then, if you're average (all courses combined) is over 8, you're automatically admitted
Below that, it's a lottery system
(well there is going on some law stuff as our consitution says that everyone have to have equal chances when it comes to jobs so some people are trying to remove it)
With weighted probabilities based on your grade group
Oh
Yeah, that would complicate stuff
Ves what do you mean by levels?
Like difficulty levels
We have VWO (needed for university), HAVO (needed for HBO; can't go to university); VMBO (needed for MBO, one level below HBO)
so for our NC example
In a way. Not as extreme. We have a gifted program where you generally work a grade or more ahead. So, you can start in 1st/2nd or whatever, then just get shoved forward to something that challenges you but the education is all the same. Just different rates
if you dont have 1.0 (6 being worst one being best) you wont be allowed to study medicine (medicine is an extreme case) in 15 out of 16 states (the 16th has 1.1)
that means that you basically must have 14/15 points in every subject consistently over two years
(and you have a bit above or beyond 15 subjects during those two years)
Seems easy enough
It's usually really difficult to compare grades across countries
What's the proportion of students getting that?
Idk. Low
last year the average per state in germany was between 2.18 and 2.57 however the A levels are harder in some states than in others
so for example a bavarian 2.0 is harder to get than a 2.0 from nord rhein westfalen
I think to be gifted isnāt too bad which has some perks on its own but nothing major, Maybe 15-20%? But to like actually fully skip a grade is maybe 2 or 3%. I donāt have stats for that though
(With 10 being the highest)
In the first three years, my school had A B C D F
But that's unusual
hm
So, for instance, my highest central exam score was a 9.8 and it was one small mistake (missed t-12 in a formula)
there is a way to not have the demanded average and still study for example medicine though (again medicine really is an extreme case here) you can apply and then do this weird waiting thing
Ah, okay
however that waiting can take more than 7 years and there is no guarantee youll get there in the end
Both of yāalls system seems so complicated
We don't have such strict rules. Everyone 8 and higher is admitted, the rest divides the other places and they can only try three times.
Now, 8 and higher average is rare
But, it's doable
@steel fox I am only scratching the very top, alone the system of choosing your subjects and how to use the grades you get there for your final average grade is more complicated than this
US itās like you go to school. You graduate. If you wanna go to uni there are entrance exams, kinda, in the form of SAT/ACT. Score high enough for the school? Cool youāre basically in.
It's not free here, but it's a lot cheaper
it is cheap here but some people cough FDP cough are trying to reintroduce it
I think, my degree at a state school was like $8k a semester maybe
It's like ā¬50 here per semester
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Unless you already have a degree, then it's about 20.000 euro per year
Yes and no. Its a lot, but with smart degree choices itās easily repayable
Maybe, but it's a lot of debt
And that could stop people from going to higher education
Also true
Take my family in the states, for instance
But thereās also pathways to have it forgiven for some majors that are lower income / removed such as scholarships or even joining the military for GI Bill
They are rich, so their education wasn't a problem
But, that's not for everyone
They're basically all lawyers
System has its downsides, but itās not too bad honestly. the only real complaints are when people go to a super expensive private school and donāt realize they canāt afford it
Yeah, it's just that the US system seems so alien to me
Itās baked with freedom
Then again, the things I hear from my family are a bit distorted as they're conservative republicans
Also true
And compared to the political spectrum here, even democrats are a bit right of center in a lot of ways
So, republicans are far out
Anyway, time for bed
I got confused, I thought someone else replied with num: int
Oh lol
Yeah you said that and it immediately clicked
Havent used py in a month lol
im p sure he wants sth like this @vague tulip lol```py
#modules
import time
#Lists
time.sleep(0.2)
whatForSale = ("Cola","Lemonade","CherryAde","Water","Lucozade","Fizzy Water","Ginger Beer","Lilt","Hot Chocolate","Coffee","Milk","Chocolate Milkshake","Strawberry Milkshake","Banana Milkshake","Strawberry Water","Lemon and Lime Water","Blackberry Water","Blackcurrant","Powerade","7UP","Orange Juice")
print(f"Enter Number {len(whatForSale)} To Cancel your order")
print("\n".join(f"{i} {x}" for i,x in enumerate(whatForSale)))
while True:
try:
drinkNumber = int(input("\nPlease Input the Number you wish to recieve: "))
except ValueError:
print("That Choice is invalid")
else:
if 0 <= drinkNumber < len(whatForSale):
time.sleep(.2)
print(whatForSale[int(drinkNumber)])
break
elif drinkNumber == len(whatForSale):
break
else:
print("That Choice is invalid")```
I have Windows 10 installed as my main OS.
Can I create a partition and install another OS on it (Eg. Ubuntu) and choose to boot from that partition?
It's possible, yeah. Ubuntu will help you do that if you specifically pick that one.
So it will show up in the grub (to choose which partition I want to boot from)
what are pull requests
actually can someone just update me on what all the github terms mean
@sand goblet ...is it bad that I don't get it?
From the splatoon DLC
Probably why I don't get it.
@lilac glade did you buy your refis.io domain?
I might, I'm not entirely sure yet.
i think you should š (assuming its not a financial issue)
cool to have your own domain name, espcially one that fits so well
It's not a financial issue, it's a "What should I do with it" issue.
oh - idk put like a minigame of snake on the homepage or something
id play that
Ehhh
I guess I'll purchase the domain name and hang onto it for a bit.
Never hurts to have a portfolio
is there any way to convert IDLE themes to pycharm?
I seriously doubt it
you'll probably have to recreate it
nobody uses IDLE so you'll have a hard time finding tools for it
The material theme plugin for pycharm is excellent anyway, you should try that first
Well don't think for too long
@sand goblet I bought it already.
No, I bought it 4 hours ago.
oh
@trail estuary unrelated but since you know more about git than i do, what exactly is it?
yea me too
its a tool for version control
i heard you connect it to github
oh
do you know any tutorials for learning how to use it lego?
I watched this a while ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKg7e37bQE
Github Tutorial For Beginners - learn Github for Mac or Github for windows If you've been wanting to learn Github, now's the perfect time! Github is seen as ...
I can't quite remember how good it was but
ok
i learned git through an interactive website. i'll try to look for it.
okay, thanks!
can't find exactly what i was looking for, but i remember this being useful. http://rogerdudler.github.io/git-guide/
this looks good, thanks!
oh, seems like what i was looking for no longer exists. explains why i can't find it :D
no problem ^-^
oh that sucks, noone backed it up?
it apparently became a thing you have to pay for: https://github.com/git/git-scm.com/issues/1239
The front page prominently links to Try Git at https://try.github.com/, but the interactive tutorial is no longer available there. See Try-Git/try_git#24.
woww
that's really unfortunate. as a hands-on learner, that was one of the most useful resources for learning git for me (apart from git itself).
thankšyoušmicrosoftš
Break the glass
Why bother, you can pull stuff out at the bottom
;)
hey @gentle moss
been a bad few months :3
Main PID: 16928 (asd)
Tasks: 135 (limit: 4704)
so like... does that mean the process has 135 threads started?
what is that output from
^
that's uhhh
that's an aerodynamic rocket engine
that maintains efficiency at altitude
oh man i ate another carolina reaper
i gotta stop doing this
is it lines of code its running?
it's more likely operations
although the initial heat from the caroline reaper has now gone
i feel like there's a china syndrome working its way through my guts
Why are u eating Carolina reapers? š
well i use them to make chilli con carne
and i taste test all peppers for making it, except for the reapers
so i thought i'd actually taste test one
Ok... why? I thought youāre only supposed to like taste it as u cook it, u donāt taste the raw ingredients
ah chilli peppers are a little weird
since say two scotch bonnets could actually have vastly different heat strengths
so it's always an idea to get an idea of how hot the peppers you're cooking with actually are
So u wanted to make sure u donāt add too much?
well if it was a hot batch of scotch bonnets i'd use maybe 2, if it's a little weaker probably 3
last chilli i made had like 2 green jalapenos, 2 red jalapenos, 4 birds eye, 4 fingers, 2 scotch bonnets and a carolina reaper
i was going to use the bhut jolokai but i don't have many and am saving them
I need to try some of your chilli... like 6 different chilli peppers, it must taste amazing
different chillis hit you in different ways
bhut jolokia's are a very sharp and quick hot burn
carolina reapers are more of a slow burn
Can I like buy some chilli con carne off u? š
you don't notice how hot it is until 30 s - 1m later
errrr.... i guess so if you like?
i warn you that it's like.... super fucking hot
I mean I should hope so - itās got 6 different chillis š
If I canāt handle it, iāll make a friend eat it as a dare during pres
just mail it over to doodspavs house
in one of those cardboard envelopes
it'll be great
well i keep it stored frozen so i think if i froze a small pot of it and then insulated it and mailed it quick
it wouldn't go off
the royal mail amirite
plus it's so hot i'm not sure bacteria would even want to live in it
Royal Mail ftw š
freeze it with liquid hydrogen
then ship the chilibrick
oh oh
ship it in a thermos
while frozen
if not, you can fashion one out of your fridge with some simple tools
i mean, i'm kind of into the idea of someone from here actually getting to eat my food rather than watch me cook it on stream
I mean... u could probably just use a normal thermos?
i'm not sending you a lot, like maybe half a mug full or something
Yeah thatās fine lol - as long as itās at least 1 serving
but if you really are curious to try it i'm sure i can work something out
Wait how big is the mug?
last time someone tried one of my chilli's he almost shat himself
Does it taste good?
oh yeah, it's not just heat for the sake of heat
i've got a good recipe. i make colder versions of it for people who are weak as fuck
Iām not weak (or maybe I am but I still want the strong one)
Lemon come visit here and u can try some
chilli con carne is probably my favourite food
put it in a wrap, put it on chips, put on rice
why not just go visit bisk
yeah, if lemon came to visit i'd serve him a higher class meal
if I was going to the uk anyway..
my fiancee hates beans
and can't handle very spicy stuff
and I have a two-year-old
so I don't get to make a lot of chilis
What would u serve him if not chilli con carne?
Tbh chilli sounds tastier
no I had your stew with sea bass
nah, my beef stews are š š
except.. not with sea bass.
that's true
and it was okay but hardly fit for a king
Wait when did u have it?
when i went to norway
I missed this - when did u two visit?
last year
Bisk has a beard?
it varies in length, but yes
that's not entirely the point, but yes a little bit of a beard.
:D
What did u think of Norway?
beardfest is when the members of the band Beardfist get together. it's a yearly thing.
Oh
yeah neither did i
2018 was unusually hot
I mean there was a heatwave when you were there.
So youāre in a band lemon, and bisk mixed your tracks?
no no no
At least 0 humidity - thatās good
how did you get that from what I said, lol
i just throw in some bass here and there
Idk - u didnāt really explain
I said he did bass for some of our tracks
Oh u actually played the bass?
he's a bassist wtf
:D
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I'll see if i cant catch up to the lecture soonā¢