Can I have the source?
#ot1-perplexing-regexing
tulip palm
bleak lintel
Not appropriate language thank you.
granite lake
😂
gentle moss
wot a nob
rough sapphire
wow
granite lake
lol
@tulip palm All I do is install the requirements and execute run.py to deploy it?
tulip palm
i can't remember, but i think so lmao
granite lake
lol okay
@vapid bluff I got the update
Clipboard history and screen snip are my most used in 1809
gray venture
So my computer is reaching the end of its life. I need to get something new . Im currently using windows, but its always been a pain to develop on. Was looking at getting a macbook or iMac, but have never used OSX. Anyone have any comments on developing on OSX? The other idea is to get windows laptop/pc and dualboot with fedora
robust sierra
i use osx, i dont really have any problems developing on it. Maybe you might want a linux distro that is similar to windows? @gray venture
gray venture
I'm open to anything that isn't windows. I've used fedora, kali and ubuntu, and at work we use VMs with redhat I think, but I have no preference. Oddly I'm considering how my choice will reflect me. If you mention at work that your PC has windows, you get laughed out of the room by the arch guys 😛 Im happy going with the coffee shop hipster vibe from macbooks. Im not sure fedora gives a great vibe. My bro laughs at the name alone. Ubuntu gets mocked for being too user friendly for some reason..
Definitely overthinking this
proper dune
Is the workplace the right place for Arch elitism 👀
gray venture
its more of a friendly elitism really
gentle moss
Nah, people love to hate the shit out of Windows
It is the single best operating system for the majority of business needs.
The exposure to it allows almost anyone to have a gripe about it.
And that gripe can be valid.
proper dune
It's pree shite 😉
gray venture
I get that, but Ive been using windows forever, and the automatic updates every few weeks are really annoying and take way too long. But my main is that none of the harware vendors seem to be particularly good. Lenovo was solid, but isnt anymore. Dell seems to have become more reliable. But with Apple I assume you get decent hardware quality for the price
gentle moss
Dell stuff is shit hot right now
Their 3040 and 3060 series are GREAT value for money
plus their support is top notch
providing it's a simple issue*
gray venture
having a quick look, the 3040 is a desktop?
proper dune
Need to figure out how to source parts
proper dune
XPS 15's are great
gray venture
the XPS15 looks great, very aesthetic too
gentle moss
Which are the bastards that can handle like 3 HDD's in hardware RAID or w/e
They marketed it as a workstation replacement
HMmmmm
gray venture
I need to convince myself that my personal projects are worth a £1500 laptop 😛
gentle moss
they're probably not
cheaper laptop + a scalable VPS? :P
these are the fuckers i was talking about
Both the Precision 7530 and Precision 7730 can run a six-core Xeon E-2176M at 2.70GHz and can ship with up to 64GB of RAM
for $1.5k ish
(starting price)
gentle moss
yeah, some people have a VPS for doing work with
if they're particularly internet connected
rough sapphire
get arch + i3 gaps + compton + polybar + zsh and join the cool kids club
summer rampart
lul
rough sapphire
nah, it's allright
gentle moss
i just used a really trimmed down lubuntu and 6 desktops
¯_(ツ)_/¯
oh and terminator
obtuse path
d e s p a c i t o
rough sapphire
no shitposting pls
robust sierra
yes good posts no thanks
sullen thorn
anyone here know about password hashing and salting?
sullen thorn
so in mysql do i store the salt with the hash in the same variable?
or do i have hash and salt seperately?
(when i say hash i mean salted hash)
ebon quarry
I think you usually store them in two separate columns
assuming that's what you mean with variable
because you need the plaintext salt to derive the hash
sullen thorn
ok
ebon quarry
I think some hashing results contain the salt in them, but I'm not 100% sure
sullen thorn
can i just use the uid as the salt?
ebon quarry
i would just generate a random salt per-user
sand goblet
It really depends on the implementation
if you're doing it yourself like volcyy suggests, you may be doing it wrong
if you use bcrypt it'll handle the salt stuff for you and you just have one column
sullen thorn
ok
glass gorge
I got yelled at because there was an ad outside the store of something we were sold out of
Therefore it was my fault
And I scammed her, I gave a bad customer experience, I was disgusting. Yup lady totally my fault that it sold out without us noticing
It was just chocolate for crying out loud
rain spindle
hahahaha
worn kite
hmm, well no
legally you're right
a poster is just an invitation to make a contract offer, not a contract offer itself
worn kite
learned that last week in my laws lecture 
rain spindle
My parents to it all the time hahaha
rain spindle
Fair enough dude
glass gorge
And it just sort of puts the rest of my day in a bad mood
rain spindle
:/
rain spindle
Feels bad man
glass gorge
And she followed me out to the poster and scolded me a 2nd time outside the shop
Iike come on.. 
tired osprey
hmmmmmmmmmmm
rough sapphire
1 is bad enough 
sand goblet
:>
steel fox
Huh. So Microsoft isn’t the bad guy after all. Weird
rain spindle
They are using asure aswell
as much as you can knock Microsoft, they ain't actually that bad
Azure, and vscode are great examples
steel fox
@tired osprey did u see the announcement
tired osprey
yes
rain spindle
@tired osprey did you see the announcement
tired osprey
hmmm
steel fox
Don’t fucking block my boy sharp
bleak lintel
Microsoft are actually fantastic right now and I don't know why
steel fox
I just appreciate the meme of panicking when they bought GH and switching off ASAP to now going back
rain spindle
@bleak lintel what has changed it so much?
bleak lintel
they seem to value open source
rain spindle
Useful.
tired osprey
theyve been doing for a long time
bleak lintel
@steel fox i think a lot of people have done similar things to be honest
bleak lintel
Yeah they donated a LOT to the Linux foundation
and azure has good support for linux systems
steel fox
Wow it’s weird right the company with dozens of open source projects hosted on github value it
bleak lintel
lmfao
rain spindle
They will be hoping powershell starts off
rain spindle
I haven't really got into it
Cause I either use bash
and install git bash on windows
steel fox
But yeah. Lots have swapped back
bleak lintel
powershell is a .NET command line so if you use a lot of .NET then powershell
if you want better interaction with linux and unix tools, bash
rain spindle
I dont have a vital need for either
steel fox
The good C is also dot net
rain spindle
But I want to learn both
bleak lintel
(or zsh because it's better, source: zsh-lovers(1))
rain spindle
:^)
steel fox
@candid anvil how do u feel about zsh
light shadow
whoat
robust sierra
@tired osprey pls halp
tired osprey
what
robust sierra
lel
rough sapphire
do you know
light shadow
oof
light shadow
Pythagorean theorem?
rough sapphire
yes
well it cannot be applied cus there is no 90º degree
then apply the sinus theorem
no, the cosinus right?
steel fox
I cannot apply a sinners thereom. I am a follower of Christ.
rough sapphire
or just split the triangle
sinful copper
i got (3x+6)/4+(1.5x-4)^2=73
rough sapphire
well, I see many ways of doing it
robust sierra
yes i know poppadoms theorem
sinful copper
2.25 x^2 - 11.25 x - 55.5 = 0
light shadow
..
sinful copper
that part's easy (i say even though i got bored of trying to do it by hand and pasted it into wolfram)
i'm worried that i've messed something up though, becuse that does not give a "nice looking" answer for x
robust sierra
i think i might be overthinking this...
tired osprey
hm
robust sierra
alomossett
worn kite
Nix
tired osprey
yes
worn kite
don't murder trees
tired osprey
too late
im already at half a page
but now I'd have to multiply with cosine
and me no like
Huuuuiiiiii
robust sierra
i can barley see dat
rough sapphire
looks ez
tired osprey
but now id have to do
big x polynom of 4th degree - cos(60) * (4x^2+2x-12)
and i dont want to
rough sapphire
cos 60 is 1/2 right
robust sierra
my maths teacher always tells me "there are multiple ways to kill the cat"
robust sierra
I THINK I GAAAT ITTT
tired osprey
so it boils down to
4x^4 + 4x^3-9x^2-11x+30
robust sierra
ONE SECC
tired osprey
does everyone agree?
rough sapphire
i didnt try it but ye
tired osprey
okay
rough sapphire
you can use polynomial division i think
tired osprey
i dont want to
robust sierra
NOW I JUST NEED TO PROVE X=5
tired osprey
dis has no solution
tired osprey
and yes import error is right
that number solves this equation too
you suck wolframalpha
rough sapphire
hm
robust sierra
this solution |:(
robust sierra
okay i will sob quietly in a corner
rough sapphire
i confused myself 
rough sapphire
i wrote the 2x-3 as only on the right side bottom
rough sapphire
Math is silly
robust sierra
i got x=5, one away from 6
rough sapphire
so many human errors
robust sierra
and i got -3 as well
tired osprey
ill go cry in a corner and rant about our school system never teaching us the cosinus theorem
bye
robust sierra
may i cry with you?
robust sierra
sobs uncontrollably
rough sapphire
😦 i learnt this less then a year ago and still fucked
rough sapphire
i made a error before even getting to the good part
rough sapphire
more questions
robust sierra
if this happened to me in gcse
i will roll up to edexcel hq in my tank
and threaten them to change my grade
do you think it'll work? @tired osprey
tired osprey
what will work
So @sand goblet @rain spindle @glass gorge it appears my mobile thinks i did not get it
sand goblet
Old discord bug
robust sierra
i spent the entire evening on that question
only to get it wrong in the end
i will cry myself to sleep today
tired osprey
a tragedy
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
ImportError: too sad
@robust sierra if you want I can go over what you tried and explain what's wrong/what's right about it
?????
rain spindle
nix why didn't you help him!
tired osprey
yknow there is this thing called cosine theorem but you dont have to know it
and no
^ is exponential and * is \cdot
rain spindle
I do!!!!
tired osprey
WHATS WRONG WITH YOU
gentle moss
asterisk is times shit
tired osprey
i know an indian who has an asterisk instance for........ not exactly legal stuff
rain spindle
did import say it wasn't
tired osprey
no
rain spindle
good.
tired osprey
i confused + with *
tired osprey
because i never learned that and typed from memory as import error told me yesterday
but i remembered the + wrong
so i wrote *
And then this happened
tired osprey
YES
rain spindle
At least you can do division of polynomials right?
rain spindle
.....
tired osprey
we were also told thats a thing
rain spindle
even I can?
tired osprey
but we wont need it
rain spindle
well
robust sierra
I appreciate you guys trying to help, I'm just mentally drained rn and overall very sad. I will resume tomorrow
I appreciate you guys trying to help, I'm just mentally drained rn and overall very sad. I will resume tomorrow
I appreciate you guys trying to help, I'm just mentally drained rn and overall very sad. I will resume tomorrow
Fuck
rain spindle
Unlucky
light kayak
tired osprey
No
there is an http error code with the name teapot and one day the NPM servers threw that code out so when you'd use npm to install them it would respond with " I am a teapot"
tepid kestrel
robust sierra
wrong
ebon quarry
.. on windows
bronze flume
hello!
tulip palm
hiya :D
robust sierra
henlo :(
rough sapphire
honla
robust fable
tulip palm
this i can approve of
gentle moss
Corgee aint that cute
robust fable
His legs blorp
devout shuttle
Can we somehow ban Windows?
tired osprey
unlikely
devout shuttle
Yesterday I had to restore a W10 after faulty update which broke some vital dlls.
It was my first time restoring W10...
So I decided to go "the right way".
I started up sfc...
And it hanged.
I did dism...
And it hanged.
I've tried to restore Shindows from a ufd.
And it hanged.
I end up fixing some of windows installer "dependancies" via Ubuntu Live usb stick.
You can only use Windows if you know how to fix it with Linux.
Ah. Some fine memes from this laptop. The dude whos laptop it was installed two av apps.
sand goblet
Get an iron and flatten it out
ivory tiger
Burn the phone witch
devout shuttle
There is no way you can get it flatten.
tired osprey
@ivory tiger http://leonsplanet.com/exorcism101.htm
devout shuttle
Inner curve is shorter than outer.
tired osprey
MONGOLIA: In Mongolia, shamans have been known to instruct their clients to bathe in vodka not only to cleanse the body, but also the spirit of any negative energy or evil influences. Then, the dirty vodka must be discarded outside the home. Also, for a price, shamans have been known to enter a trance, leave their body and try to fight (or negotiate) with malevolent spirits on the behalf of clients.
wrong end get some vodka
devout shuttle
Meditate. Leave your body. Start a drunk fight with evil spirit.
devout shuttle
I once left my real billionaire body and couldn't find the way back.
tired osprey
tragic
devout shuttle
Had to get inside of a bod that some poor normie left.
tired osprey
shit happens
devout shuttle
It bothers me that lots of people start to learn coding to make games.
I get bothered even more when people learn python and want to make games with it.
sinful turtle
I guess people play games, then decide they want to make a game, then find out python is relatively easy to learn and then find out it's not the greatest for making games
devout shuttle
Yeah. I kinda get how it works. The thing I can't understand is why they want to make games in the first place.
sinful turtle
because they don't realise how tedious it is
devout shuttle
I mean if they like to play games do they want to make games to play them?
tired osprey
yes
devout shuttle
Erhm. Where is the fun in playing games you've made?
tired osprey
where is the fun in using programs you made
devout shuttle
Should it be fun?
sinful turtle
I spent 4 hours programming a text based version of minesweeper in python, and the controls for it were terrible, so i played it once then never played it again
tired osprey
if its not fun why are you making programs in the first place
devout shuttle
Because I solve problems.
sinful turtle
Money idk lol
sinful turtle
and then you make a new problem to solve
devout shuttle
Tbh. I don't think that problems are need to be made. You just stumble on them trying to reach your goals.
What I would want to do is a mmo mmo maker or smth like this.
When you have people making a game online for others to play.
Like an online multi-access editor of some sort to allow people to make realms together or something.
Like this thingy ArmA now have. Kinda D&D GM mode or smth.
rough sapphire
so a collaborative game maker maker?
rough sapphire
that would be interesting
I think if such a framework existed, you'd see far more open source games that are far more complex
devout shuttle
Fallout series kinda proved that modders can fix everything.
I feel like the idea itself is somewhat interesting but way too complex for me to even start trying to figure out some workflows.
rough sapphire
to do it right, you'd need a strong grasp of several disciplines (or to collaborate with others that do)
devout shuttle
Yeah I get it. And I thought about it as a wierd "inception" thing. In order to make mmo mmo maker you have to make tools for a maker of mmo mmo maker.
rough sapphire
yeah, quite meta lol
it's definitely possible though
given enough thought and resources
stark prawn
such a brave choice
rough sapphire
3 stripes
stark prawn
(waterford whispernews is a satirical site)
sand goblet
it's satirical, yeah :P
gentle moss
i have been afk for a while
and i was hoping to god that that had scrolled up more
so i could be like
"hey guys, did you hear adidas are adding another stripe?"
sand goblet
Haha
gentle moss
had a fun day doing some cabling in the most skanked out building in the area
kept finding interesting things in the roof
not sure if my favourite was the pile of empty white lightning bottles or the tied off used condoms
vapid bluff
whats the difference really
gentle moss
quantity of fluids
sinful turtle
rough sapphire
how do people generally find others to help them with open source projects?
or is it always the people who find them
tame pier
Label your issues with "Hacktoberfest" 😅
proper dune
good thing to try in november
tame pier
That was the joke answer (well, unless it's October, then you're guaranteed to get some contributions)
The actual answer is longer
Marketing and getting the word out about your project is crucial, no one will come if they don't know about it (we have a channel for that, #303934982764625920)
Just as important is making your project friendly to contributers
Create a Contributing.md file (there are loads of fantastic examples, I can link some later when I'm at a computer if you'd like)
Open issues with major items that need to be done
Comment your code and format it in a format that's at least somewhat aligned with generally accepted norms (for Python, PEP8 and PEP 257)
Be friendly and welcoming to newcomers, and don't neglect them or the project. If someone opens a PR and you haven't responded in a week (and it's not a holiday), their initial desire to contribute will begin to fizzle out.
@rough sapphire hope that helps
tame terrace
@rough sapphire from personal experience, I would also recommend creating a community (like a discord server) where would-be contributors can go and get in touch with you guys. Contributing to some random github project is okay, but contributing to a community that you've actually interacted with is far more fun. Ideally you'll have people in that community who are ready to help guide new contributors through the process of setting up their local dev environment and selecting the right issue so they can be effective right away.
you might put information about that in the CONTRIBUTING.md file as well.
humble escarp
lilac glade
Whoever took the picture and didn't rotate it is worse.
humble escarp
Shall I rotate it?
gentle dragon
I hope this one is correct, otherwise i'll look like a big dumbass
😅
Or instead of the last line you could do c2 = (ab-sqr(ab))(ab+sqr(ab))
tired osprey
I was mentioned
rough sapphire
@tame pier pinging you regarding those examples
bro
@tame terrace Thank you for your answer. It makes a lot of sense to make the onboarding process as simple as possible.
this same question
for like 3 days
lol
rough sapphire
this is haunting us because we couldnt figure it out
tired osprey
Are you talking about import errors problem
rough sapphire
ye
rough sapphire
it was, but i made silly mistakes
tired osprey
Teachers here told us yknow there is this cosinus theorem but you'll never need it
rough sapphire
learnt it but it was buried deep in my brain
tame terrace
@rough sapphire yeah. but more than just simplifying onboarding, try to get that personal contact as early as possible. humanize your project. people don't want to contribute code to a faceless ether, they wanna help people
sinful copper
I screwed up the math when i tried it this weekend, but it was probably possible to solve using only definition of cosine and pythagorean theorem
tired osprey
I mean I would've solved it if I wouldn't have made the mistake
And as I figure my mistake out I'm not trying anymore
rough sapphire
@tame terrace I understand. Building a community is actually something I was looking forward to doing once my project gets released, so that shouldn't be an issue. I'm definitely going to make some welcome guides and other things though to set the stage that
- They're appreciated and
- We're all in this together as a team
rough sapphire
thanks
fierce lagoon
Is it wrong to work alone on something big?
Like if you don't have anyone to assist on your task/project?
south pier
You gotta have hella passion
You'll become a man of many hat. Those hats can get heavy. There's a lot to learn and plenty of things you'd benefit from extra eyes on.
fierce lagoon
Study is life long journey so I'm ready for it, have enough patience to not fall for quantum leap.
Thanks for the great piece of advice, Thane.
south pier
Eh. I'm talking out my ass. Go for it. It'll either work or it won't. Either way, you'll learn plenty.
Have fun with it.
rough sapphire
I've been working on a multi-month project, which is also my first ever project (started python/programming in March)
it's extremely hard
but you will guaranteed learn a lot
while I've coded everything by myself, there is one caveat
fierce lagoon
If it won't work then I'll just take a nap and start working on it again, although I have you guys to clear out my doubts(but before asking them I'll try to search on it internet)
Sounds interesting.
rough sapphire
I've had experienced programmers I had to ask questions to on various parts, and they might open you to a new paradigm of approaching the problem
that has been a very valuable part of my project (and my growth in general)
fierce lagoon
I've been learning of lot of CS concepts on my own and I thought if I don't implement it then I won't be able to understand it completely.
My classmates are not interested in programming/security as I am and it's kinda hard to find someone to work with as they'll be busy with their own work.
rough sapphire
I definitely plan to open up what I'm doing on github, but I will say the extra frustration in the end is worth it
and you can say to employers/others that you built this completely on your own, without any help
with something ambitious enough, that will definitely command respect
proper dune
might want to start going to hackathons, can make lots of friends there with similar interests
go join a group, make a group chat with them and send each other memes for an year or whatever
rough sapphire
I've never heard of that book, but googling it, it looks really good
fierce lagoon
I'm a student with not a good financial background and hackathons are usually held in other states.
It's a good book, recommend on top non fiction book reddit post as one of the best book.
proper dune
Where are you located? I find it hard to believe you cant find hackathons without going to other states
fierce lagoon
India.
fierce lagoon
Once my graduation will over, I'll move there.
proper dune
that startup life
granite lake
@fierce lagoon You're from india? Das great man
The place where the popular CS Youtube people are from
😂
fierce lagoon
Popular?
@granite lake Never heard of them :/
I usually watch MITOpenCourseWare for any CS material.
proper dune
Ocw is good
ancient garden
@sand goblet are u the big fat dude ?
ancient garden
ancient garden
xD
tame terrace
and I'm wonkas dad, the dentist.
proud of you, son
you have a nice chocolate meltery
sand goblet
haha
vapid bluff
christopher lee rip
viral parrot
tiny raven
Why is chocolate like my heart?
Gdude is dying to melt it.
rough sapphire
gdude for admin 2020
sand goblet
That's a weird way to profess someone else's love
xD
you got something to say, @tiny raven?
:P
rough sapphire
u melted his heart
tiny raven
It's my name-related pun
sand goblet
:>
tiny raven
😘
tiny raven
Which pun was better? Duck hugging, gdude melts my heart or king knome?
tame terrace
were any of those really puns
rough hare
rain spindle
lmao
rough sapphire
no shitposting please
robust sierra
yes shitposting please
robust sierra
what does the C stand for?
tired osprey
for C
robust sierra
C the programming language
glass gorge
A and b were taken
robust sierra
hm
rough sapphire
C is for Cplusplus
tired osprey
no0
sinful copper
that looks like a windows xp install disk
rough sapphire
lol I always wondered if that sort of thing happened (someone from the factory "borrowing" them)
apparently it does
sinful turtle
oh yeah, I tried installing windows XP a while back
nvm lol
I was just anxious because of the autorun.inf lol
rough sapphire
that's just a text file
sinful turtle
yeah I know but it can autorun when the usb stick is put in
clearly it didn't here tho
rough sapphire
sinful turtle
oh right
rough sapphire
that 'plug a malicious pen drive' is one of the oldest tricks in the book
stark prawn
killer usb's 🙃
rough sapphire
@stark prawn you reminded me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hbuhFwFsDU
light shadow
oh hai
granite lake
@light shadow 👋
Damn
Yall from replit working on bots steady
I hope to see great and interesting ones
light shadow
haha
sinful copper
i see screenshots with screenfetch, htop, cmatrix, and tiling window managers are still popular. where's ranger and ncmcpp? 😛
I remember back in the 2000s where everyone was using enlightenment and gkrellm
and xmms, and eterm (a fully transparent borderless one with console log output, and either background images or more transparency for the user terminals)
tiny raven
Did you hear about the underwater library?
It was in the loon lagoon
royal tartan
sand goblet
@sweet acorn You posted that in the wrong channel
but even then it'd probably be better to link the EFF
sweet acorn
Sorry
sand goblet
european parliament isn't gonna care about some change.org petition, sadly
sweet acorn
But we need to save the Internet
sand goblet
it'd be nice if they did, but it's not the right way to do things
rain spindle
Up for a call??????
gentle moss
I'm just goimg to be baf.
robust sierra
destroys lemonade stand
rough sapphire
@robust sierra nice name
tough stratus
Leeemmoonnss
rough sapphire
no shitposting please
sand goblet
no backseat modding please
robust sierra
yes shitposting please
rigid bloom
glass gorge
Keep in mind theres no place for meme dumping on this server. A few is fine, but don't make it a habit
rough sapphire
kk
tiny raven
granite lake
lol
robust sierra
Look! A wild lemon has been spotted!
granite lake
@robust sierra Why are you woke so early
robust sierra
what time is it for you? its 3pm here @granite lake
granite lake
11:22am here
bleak lintel
yes
dense matrix
@rough sapphire how much for a time machine?
dense matrix
DELET THIS
rough sapphire
remember when BTC was $20000
dense matrix
🔫
dense matrix
Jokes on you, I moved to a Brent short when btc hit 9k
dense matrix
Its normal, corrections are always in legs
Btc is always in crazy legs
I always say that 1k has never been tested
And btc loves to test every support
rough sapphire
lol
dense matrix
That would be a rekt, but it will also shot up intensively
Probably a new bullrun parallel to 2017
March 2017
What is truly rekt its Choina
They have a lot of debt, and they keep investing in infrastructure projects
That don't pay off
rough sapphire
rabbit typing: if it looks like a rabbit and quacks like a duck, it's probably a <crash>
robust fable
Why is my rabbit quacking
rough sapphire
rabbit 
robust sierra
ribbit
rough sapphire
rub it
rough sapphire
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/297675009516896256/515954287860383778/PSX_20181124_201750.jpg
robust sierra
lmao
sinful turtle
🤔
rough sapphire
I have to respect that lol
rough sapphire
So u 18 now ?
rough sapphire
pls respond
robust sierra
plz sho bobs and vegenea
tired osprey
Can we like not
robust sierra
not like we Can
worn kite
or can you?
tired osprey
@worn kite yesterday on another server somebody sent the same memes in the same order COINCIDENCE
Question mark
worn kite
tired osprey
That is not an answer byte
worn kite
and what is your excuse so that I don't kill you?
worn kite
coincidentally I'm currently listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXzMD065HEk, so there might be some collateral damage...
tired osprey
Everything under 20 percent is collateral damage
So if you could only 1 fifth kill me it would be fine
robust sierra
what is colgate damage
worn kite
which fifth of you?
tired osprey
I don't know what Colgate damage is if you are asking for collateral it's damage which wasn't intended to be dealt
Like shooting a rocket on a terrorist camp and killing civilians
robust sierra
oh so i dealt collateral damage to you when we were playing WoT
tired osprey
If you didn't shoot me on purpose yes
rough sapphire
then that was colgate damage
robust sierra
oh okay
worn kite
only if you shot him with tooth paste
tired osprey
You can kill my appendix and my cartilage on the right side (my right) of my chest if you want
robust sierra
but appendix is useless
tired osprey
That's why he can kill it
worn kite
that doesn't add up to a fifth yet...
tired osprey
Did you just assume the size of my cartilage
worn kite
@tired osprey https://youtu.be/nfr5AQR7YPg?t=296
tired osprey
@worn kite so i can kill you now for pinging me?
worn kite
I HAVE JUST WOKEN UP
My eyes are barely open.
BRING ME A VITAL ORGAN
no
that's just me
robust sierra
nix do you eat vital organs for breakfast?
tired osprey
no
robust sierra
nix can we play chess
robust sierra
mAy i pLaY WiTh yOu plsS¿
tired osprey
y
tired osprey
im watching a temple os video
robust sierra
fair enough
stark prawn
dense matrix
@tired osprey I'm sad he commited sudoku
tired osprey
On the evening of August 11, 2018, while walking alongside railroad tracks in The Dalles, Oregon, he was struck from the back and killed by a Union Pacific train. Investigators could not determine if his death was suicide or accidental.
did he
livid chasm
test
dense matrix
pong
tired osprey
"the CIA is trying to make you think that a switch case statement does work like an if else it doesnt look at this"
rough sapphire
after so many convenient suicides, I'm convinced to release any software that threatens any large monopolies requires you to be completely anonymous
ie, you cannot tie your work to yourself
tired osprey
(or just oss it so if its actually good other people will work on it too)
rough sapphire
yeah
edgy pier
edgy pier
how many parents here coach their kids in programming from time to time?
placid hound
Problem with an "8 year old programmer" is that they won't be making programs with any complexity, at all. Because they lack the logical thinking you would obtain down the road from going through years of school.
And an 8 year old will learn things far quicker than anyone here. So, this really isn't too impressive. The only reason for why this isn't common is because tons of people at that age don't really know what a "programmer" is or does and doesn't care to study programming
rough sapphire
I think the problem is simply the lack of onboarding materials to bring younger kids into this field
it has gotten a lot better over the past few years, however
main mauve
tame pier
l0l
rigid bloom
LOL
gentle dragon
Good luck reading black text on a black background 😎
regal forge
lol
tired osprey
robust sierra
is that a dog or a cat
tired osprey
cat
robust sierra
awwwww
worn kite
tired osprey
😮
worn kite
why would you?
dawn bane
Why sit down period?
sullen thorn
any chance any of u are good at c++? im trying to convert a very simple recursive python function to c++ and it's not working 😦
tired osprey
just show the code
sullen thorn
def subset_sum(numbers, target, partial=[]):
s = sum(partial)
# check if the partial sum is equals to target
if s == target:
print "sum(%s)=%s" % (partial, target)
if s >= target:
return # if we reach the number why bother to continue
for i in range(len(numbers)):
n = numbers[i]
remaining = numbers[i+1:]
subset_sum(remaining, target, partial + [n])
subset_sum([3,9,8,4,5,7,10],15)
thats the python
the c++ is a little longer tho, u sure i should show it here?
rough sapphire
@rough sapphire avoid weight sets, airplanes, and cars made after 2003
sullen thorn
#include <iostream>
#include <vector>
int unsigned sum(const std::vector<int unsigned>& v){
int unsigned sum = 0;
for (auto& n: v){
sum += n;
}
return sum;
}
void _combinations(const std::vector<int unsigned>& numbers, const int unsigned& target, std::vector<int unsigned> partial = {}){
const int unsigned s = sum(numbers);
// check if partial sum equals target
if (s == target){
std::cout << "Sum (";
for (auto& p : partial){
std::cout << p << ", ";
}
std::cout << ") = " << target << std::endl;
}
if (s >= target) {
return;
}
for (int unsigned i = 0; i < numbers.size(); ++i){
int unsigned n = numbers[i];
std::vector<int unsigned> remaining;
for (int unsigned j = i+1; j < numbers.size(); ++j){
remaining.push_back(numbers[j]);
}
partial.push_back(n);
_combinations(remaining, target, partial);
}
}
int main(){
std::vector<int unsigned> v = {3,9,8,4,5,7,10};
constexpr int unsigned target = 15;
_combinations(v, target);
return 0;
}
and whats the problem?
tired osprey
looks solid to me
maybe try either debugging it or inserting some debug output to find out where it exits and continue your work from there
sullen thorn
is there a special way to debug in c++? or is it just the same as python where u insert print in random places?
tired osprey
that is not debugging
for debugging you use a debugger
which is possible in python too
tired osprey
what you are referring to is debugging output which is possible too but you might also want to use a debugger like gdb
or pdb in python
(if you are running python 3.7 you can just insert a breakpoint() in the line where you want to debug and run the file again once it gets there itll start the debugger)
sullen thorn
ah im dumb
i was summing the wrong thing
ok now it works 😃
ok nvm it doesnt, but that was an issue
sullen thorn
well it got fixed, and no idea why the fix works, and the person who proposed it doesnt really know either
but it works now 😃
robust sierra
IT WOOOORKS!! IT REALLY WORKS!!! NO ONE TOUCH IT.
tame pier
Debugging is very handy
Often you can dump the current state of all the variables, including locals and globals , the stack, and sometimes make changes to them before continuing
Putting prints is quick and braindead but I've discovered doesn't scale well nor is it efficient
tame terrace
yeah. learn pdb or the pycharm debugger and use the new breakpoint keyword in 3.7 if you're doing pdb, saves lots of time. when shit I didn't write breaks at work it is my go-to tool to understanding why.
normal ferry
I remember starting my career and wolf-fence debugging the shit out of errors. Then I gotgud and used a proper ddebugger. Then I had to switch to stateless cloud apps and I'm back to logging the bajeezus out of things. Granted that's more managed with a proper logging module.
tame pier
Also, the latest PyCharm release fixed breakpoint so it'll exit into PyCharm's debugger instead of pdb
normal ferry
How is PyCharm's debugger? I rarely delve in to full IDEs for Python work.
sand goblet
Excellent.
@normal ferry
it's basically pdb, within pycharm
so you can do anything you could usually do with pdb
including executing arbitrary code and such
pycharm pro is also able to graph threads and coroutines
normal ferry
Gotcha. Yeah I figured it would be a nice wrapper around pdb. I like that it has variable dropdowns in the debugger. Thread/Coroutine graphs would also be very interesting to see in practice. I like what I see in PyCharm's docs.
shell blade
Happy! is one messed up tv show
lone otter
gentle moss
eh, weirder issues for me
i did get some more of my tune done though @lone otter
been making it over idk like 3-4 days
rough sapphire
keep doing you then
gentle moss
i've oranged out all my screens, i spent 30 minutes deep breathing
shit just wont turn off
oh and also actually being in the dark
rough sapphire
are you talking about blue filters?
gentle moss
yeah, whatever the fuck
vapid bluff
anyone know of a site that lists every single documented audio file extension?
gentle moss
there's only one real extension in existance
vapid bluff
oh?
gentle moss
.rm
gentle moss
i was making a joke about the Real Media company
gentle moss
same
It's great that I can use non proprietary technology to diseminate music to the masses
or just use soemoene elses platform
sorta like this https://soundcloud.com/b5beats/neon-nightlife
vapid bluff
is this link a list of audio file extensions
gentle moss
no it's a song i've been making over the past 3-4 days
vapid bluff
does the song list out audio file extensions
gentle moss
also "extensions" is a bad word for it
since you can have extensions encoded in different formats
vapid bluff
well until i can figure out a way of quickly checking audio file encoding im gonna rely on extensions
gentle moss
you're not doing with the weird ones i assume?
if so then most will contain some shit in the header
vapid bluff
oh no, my program will support every format ever. even .rm
ok, tbh, idk
im just passing files into QMediaPlayer
vapid bluff
and it does some stuff automagically to play them. idk what formats it supports. but i think it uses directshow.
gentle moss
wav, mp3, aiff, m4a, flac, m4b, m4p, ogg and wma
vapid bluff
qmediaplayer is a Qt class for playing media 😛
vapid bluff
you know what. ill just make it customizable. so if people want to use their wacky formats they can add it themselves.
gentle moss
that's why trying to classify things off extensions is tricky
:3
I'm listening to one of those hip hop radio stations on youtube
like a jazzy coffee shop one
just been writing out dumb lyrics, anyone wanna hear?
glossy wraith
Go for it @gentle moss
gentle moss
aw man