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gentle moss
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yeah it's a little more complicated than that

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i'd have to setup some crazy shit to utilise it

sullen thorn
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I’d use digitalocean

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It might cost u like £1 tops

gentle moss
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i could probably actually run it on AWS lambda

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🤔

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or i could just let it run overnight on our server

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the options are endless

sullen thorn
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Is it special in some way?

gentle moss
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is what special?

sullen thorn
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Lambda?

gentle moss
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idk, i've never used it

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it's like having tiny little instances that only create when they're required to

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perform a really simple task

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then despawn

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serverless architecture etc

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event driven

sullen thorn
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Oh that’s pretty cool

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And they all have their own ip tho? Or they share the host ip?

sand goblet
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You likely don't get to pick

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It'd be via some kind of load balancer

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The point is that you don't need to worry about that

sullen thorn
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Ok.... but will they have different ips?

gentle moss
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depends how you configure it

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i imagine if you left it unconfigured they'd just randomise it

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if not you'd have to reserve a pool of IPs and as gdude said load balance them

sullen thorn
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So yes? (I feel like you’re over complicating this)

sand goblet
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well you're not thinking of all the facets here

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do you really think that nobody else had the idea to use lambda to bypass rate limits?

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you're not getting your own unique IPs

sullen thorn
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Idk the only apis i’ve used are not ip specific

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I just get more keys

sand goblet
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hibp is a public api, there are no keys

sullen thorn
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do you really think that nobody else had the idea to use lambda to bypass rate limits?

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Was a reply to this

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No I didn’t think of that cuz none of my apis have been ip soecific

fierce lagoon
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Public API,that means no rate limit,right?

gentle moss
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no

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it means you don't need an API key to access it

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Rate limiting is at the discretion of who ever made the API

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Troy Hunt clearly doesn't want people to be able to hammer the API in a short span of time

fierce lagoon
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Damn,Google password creator is awesome.Recommended password was unique.

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@gentle moss Oh,it'll be like Denial of Service.

gentle moss
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it could end up in that type of situation, yeah

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if someone has significant bandwidth and there's no rate limit

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HIBP will rate limit you if you make too many requests per second and the API will hand you a value of how long you should wait before re-submitting

sullen thorn
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Good api 😃

fierce lagoon
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No doubt.

gentle moss
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that's the function i made for querying it

fierce lagoon
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Neat and clean as expected. @gentle moss

gentle moss
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thanks

fierce lagoon
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requests and json are life and time saver.

gentle moss
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@sullen thorn, moth meme's doing good i see

sullen thorn
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ah u found it on reddit?

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havent checked in a while, lemme check

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oh wo

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*wow!!

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wow reddit sent a trending notification for the meme too

gentle moss
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:D

sullen thorn
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that guy had a good idea

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was the best i could find

sullen thorn
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wonder if anyone will gift me gold...

gentle moss
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:P

fierce lagoon
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:p

gentle moss
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wow, weirdest cancellation process imaginable

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Emailed Nublue "hey i'd like to cancel the account X"

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They email back "Please send us an email from the email address registered to the account"

fierce lagoon
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🤣

gentle moss
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"Sorry, I can't do that. X@X.com is a non-sending shared mailbox."

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"Since you referenced the email address don't worry, we'll cancel the account."

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that's a little worrying

sullen thorn
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so i could just cancel an acc with the email? i gotta find someone who uses NuBlue and troll them

gentle moss
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i mean we use organisation email addresses so the domains match

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but that woudln't be so hard to spoof

tired osprey
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Since when is Bisk a meme lord

gentle moss
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since i did this

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i let dood post it

sullen thorn
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since i gave him an idea, and he created a meme that got to the top of r/rpogrammerhumor

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and its on the front page (for me) as well

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go upvote NIx

tired osprey
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No

sullen thorn
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pls?

tired osprey
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It's already on the top

sullen thorn
tired osprey
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Denied

fierce lagoon
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O_o

sullen thorn
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only godzilla can deny mothra - do not anger mothra

tired osprey
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I'll just get a moth trap

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And kill mothra

fierce lagoon
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That link isn't opening,damn my ISP.

sullen thorn
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Ł Ä M P s only make mothra stronger tho

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you cannot defeat him

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(although you can wait for him to turn into a skeleton for spooky skeleton october)

gentle moss
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it's just this meme i made robin

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nothing special

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see, you can teach an old dog new tricks

tired osprey
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You said you don't understand memes

gentle moss
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i don;t

tired osprey
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So it is spedoal

gentle moss
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:D

tired osprey
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Speshal

sullen thorn
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Nix is special

gentle moss
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i do understand moths

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and lamps

tired osprey
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I am speshal

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Pls

fierce lagoon
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I can't understand it either.

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Oh, gotcha.

tired osprey
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He is about to install a LAMP server

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And a moth comes in

fierce lagoon
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Just saw.

sullen thorn
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i dont think you quite get memes either nix

tired osprey
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Where are you getting that impression from

fierce lagoon
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Look like memes aren't my types.

sullen thorn
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like your description is correct, it just sounds wrong

tired osprey
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Also Bisk said to me he is an old man

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Who isn't into memes at all

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And doesn't understand meme culture

sullen thorn
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bisk is old? thought he was like 20

tired osprey
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30

fierce lagoon
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He's 30

sullen thorn
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hmmm

tired osprey
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Lemon is also 30 and always says he is old

sullen thorn
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yeah but lemon is old cuz hes serious af

tired osprey
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Oof

sullen thorn
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like every time he talks i think fuck, someone screwed up

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hes like the boogeyman

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pls dont tag him

tired osprey
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Would you say you are scared when lemon types

gentle moss
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you're about 10 years off

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oh wait scrolled up

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damn

tired osprey
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Doodspav

sullen thorn
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sup

tired osprey
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Would you say you are scared when lemon types

sullen thorn
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yes

tired osprey
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Hopefully lemon is watching

sullen thorn
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hopfefully hes inactive

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like even his pfp makes him look like a viking

tired osprey
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He did some Viking music iirc

fierce lagoon
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sullen thorn
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oooh 913 upvotes 😃

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almost at 1k

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whoooo 1k lets go!!!!!

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@gentle moss

gentle moss
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yay my meme lording is official now

fierce lagoon
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Congrats?

gentle moss
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i guess

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tired osprey
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@sullen thorn are there people like PewDiePie but for programmer memes?

fierce lagoon
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PewDiePie is awesome.

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India video was freaking awesome.

steel fox
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@sullen thorn killing the karma game

sullen thorn
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Ikr 😃 my idea and meme lord bisk’s implementation are a match made in heaven 😃

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@gentle moss you’ve made me basically all of my karma

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*post karma

gentle moss
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;)

fierce lagoon
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I still have no idea what's going on,lol.

gentle moss
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my meme is getting popular

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35,600 views

fierce lagoon
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Now, officially
Congratulations.

steel fox
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It’s a meme about moths

granite lake
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hey hey

fierce lagoon
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Gotta go
Have to complete Limits and Continuity chapter today.
Hi @granite lake
Bye @granite lake

granite lake
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nice meme @sullen thorn

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later robin GWmythsBlobWaveCool

fierce lagoon
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Ciao @granite lake

gentle moss
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bb robin

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it's a twin effort meme

steel fox
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Haters will say it’s photoshop but I believe the moth really wanted to install lamp

gentle moss
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haters will be wrong

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it was gimp

granite lake
steel fox
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Tweeting @ peta right now for animal abuse. Using moths to serve your agenda of lamp installs

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Also hello Jason

gentle moss
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wow i just realised i had the biggest brain fart earlier

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good thing it didn't actually impact my code

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i wrote some shit down on some paper and thought i'd divided it by 60 twice, not once

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11 minutes, not 11 hours

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fucking spanner

steel fox
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Hmm

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Thought I was making progress on this plot, but the average of a lot of these points is in the middle of the ocean which won’t work

rough sapphire
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I want KVM with IP and domain name. All cheap and from trustworthy company. Without giving out any personal information(but email).

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It's not for anything illegal. I just don't want to have my ID anywhere on internets.

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Can someone recommend me something which fits my needs?

steel fox
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I really doubt you'll find something like that, it's a huge liability for companies to offer.

rough sapphire
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I have couple of sketchy enough services which provides something like that.

steel fox
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damn looks like i messed up somewhere in my math, bunch of swimming points

tulip palm
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lmao

steel fox
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=[

rough sapphire
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Yeah.

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But it does look alright.

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You can totally swim in Pacific Ocean.

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What about Atlantic though?

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Why it is left out?

steel fox
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Incomplete data set

rough sapphire
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Lmao.

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Western Sahara is on your list.

steel fox
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took first X places, just turned out to be most of the western points I guess

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also there just might not be that many points in the atlanta

rough sapphire
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What do you mean?

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I thought that Georgia has lots of lakes.

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I've read about Jackson lake or something.

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Savannah is in Georgia?

spark wing
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Nope.

steel fox
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These aren't lakes, they're approximations of the location of each Autonomous System serving the internet. I just need a new approach because many of them span multiple countries apparently, giving basically all of them in the ocean

rough sapphire
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Lmao.

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You got me.

robust sierra
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took so long to setup

steel fox
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OMG U LEAKED UR IP

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hacked

rough sapphire
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Lmao.

robust sierra
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u know

steel fox
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im just kidding

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by the way

robust sierra
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just to be 100% safe

rough sapphire
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From what?

robust sierra
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from paranoia

rough sapphire
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This is LAN address.

steel fox
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ye lol

rough sapphire
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And this is behind NAT for sure.

steel fox
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192.168.hac.ked

robust sierra
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i dont want paranoia

rough sapphire
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Even the hackiest of the hackers can't hack this.

robust sierra
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im already paranoid

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i cover my webcam

rough sapphire
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Or just ignorant? :P

robust sierra
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maybe

steel fox
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thats no way to speak to the legendary hip hop artist imran khan

rough sapphire
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The only true rapper is Parappa.

robust sierra
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no

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me

steel fox
rough sapphire
robust sierra
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louis is cool

rough sapphire
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Tbh.

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The funny thing.

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Beats are sick in Parappa.

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And some flows are really nice. Even though it's just a game for kids.

steel fox
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best soldering kit for like all around use? pref. something with the tiny heads too

gentle moss
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Dr Meter has a nice one

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pump, bunch of tools, different heads, adjustable heat, 60watt

tame terrace
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ohhh you're a memelord now

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good

gentle moss
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yeah i did a successful r/programmerhumour meme

tame terrace
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Memelord is a single word imo

gentle moss
tame terrace
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I saw it and have no idea what it means

gentle moss
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moths like lamps or something, idk

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doodspav said someone should make it

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so i did

steel fox
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question for anyone who solders a lot

rough sapphire
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Hey guys, im aware that it isn't Python, but is anyone able to help me turn Python code into C++?
Any help would be appreciated.

tame terrace
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doodspav is the real memelord then

gentle moss
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yeah that's true

wooden kindle
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@rough sapphire Are you having trouble with a specific part?

steel fox
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so been watching rossman videos a lot lately, and sometimes he'll be soldering stuff with the board still covered in flux or whatever this stuff is, https://youtu.be/1UKywVwN1is?t=1757 , and then testing voltage. why isn't this a risk of shorting out stuff

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rough sapphire
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Yeah

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I can post my python code if needs be

steel fox
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time stamp at a part of the video where its relevant

rough sapphire
rough sapphire
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?

sullen thorn
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What’s the probability this is real?

ebon quarry
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swipe right to see!!!! 😍😍😍😍😍

bleak lintel
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why the fuck do you have tinder

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Oh my god I've had an idea

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Tinder for linux users

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you can choose your favourite RFC and favourite man page

tired osprey
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what about

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distro

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package manager

bleak lintel
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lmao

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yeah

tired osprey
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desktop environmnet

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if any

granite lake
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lol

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@sullen thorn Has a secret gf

sullen thorn
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Lol yeah but she’s not on tinder (I hope)

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I justvhave the app, used it once as a joke

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Also @bleak lintel pls make that a thing

granite lake
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😏

bleak lintel
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I will make it

sullen thorn
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Any chance u can make it for iOS too? Like i’ll pay for your license for the software u need

bleak lintel
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lol

sullen thorn
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Is “extracting source code” just decompiling?

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Cuz not quite sure what i’m being asked to do

bleak lintel
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extracting source code suggest you have been given some sort of compressed file with the source in it

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e.g. a gzipped tarball or a Burrows-Wheeler block sorted tarball

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.tar.gz or .tar.bz2

sullen thorn
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Hmm It’s not exactly that, it’s more someone asked me “are you good at extracting source code”

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And not sure what he means

bleak lintel
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in that context it sounds like reversing a binary into source code

sullen thorn
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So decompiling?

bleak lintel
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yeah

gentle moss
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right

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so me and the miss have a mooooovie pitch

bleak lintel
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what the what

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hahaha

gentle moss
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dinostarwars

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where luke and darth are cows

worn kite
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🐮

sullen thorn
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So who’s the dinosaur then?

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Ooh the clones are the dinosaurs

gentle moss
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the rebels

sullen thorn
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This is after Jurassic park

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Oh :/

gentle moss
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that's why the Empirical fleet is chasing them

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they built the empire off observable facts

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They're the Empire

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duh

sullen thorn
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Is obiwan in it?

gentle moss
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not yet

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this is a pre-prequel sequel to the post prequel sequels

sullen thorn
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Put him in it saying stuff about the high ground, and have his fight with grievous. And i’m sold

gentle moss
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look, i spent 15 minutes trying to find a cow related high ground joke

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it's just not in there man

sour shale
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"I have the High Moo"

gentle moss
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to quote the miss

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"what the fuck are you talking about?"

sullen thorn
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😂😂

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I guess this was inevitable :/

rough sapphire
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haha

worn kite
gentle moss
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errrrrr

sullen thorn
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That was not what I expected

worn kite
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Finest crossover.

gentle moss
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i mean that's bordering on nsfw

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not the video

worn kite
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🤔

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oh, the lamp

gentle moss
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yeaaaah

worn kite
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sullen thorn
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Yeah but cmon it’s a really well known meme

sour shale
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doodspav is a reddit celebrity now
so he can do what he wants

sullen thorn
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I’d say it’s on the right side of the line

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Eyyy lol

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@gentle moss we reached 8k :)!!!!

tired osprey
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"web phenomenon"

sour shale
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doodspav reached 8k
bisk reached 0k 😄

sullen thorn
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I can see how gallowboob does this all day

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It’s addictive 😃

stark prawn
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He gets paid for it

sullen thorn
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And that :/ but it’s also addictive 😃

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Wonder how much he could sell his acc for 🤔

gentle moss
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bisk reached not giving a fuck

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cute to watch dood though

sour shale
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bisk is gonna banhammer dood 😄

sullen thorn
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😦

gentle moss
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from what? :D

sour shale
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the internet

sullen thorn
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I’m gonna go to sleep now cuz I got another 3h train journey before lectures in the morning, and don’t wanna be later

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*late

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Gn 😴

sour shale
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night night

gentle moss
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nn dood

worn kite
tired osprey
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@sullen thorn how's your popularity going

odd thorn
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Alright. Potential user experience poll. I make a Discord music bot with a finite library, which knows various data about each song therein. You can type
play [n] <args>
to play the first n songs (or all songs, if n isn't provided) that meet the qualifications specified in args. Ideas on how args should be formatted? If the user wanted, say, songs with length <2:00 and genre Classical, what'd be the best way to have the user specify that? Command-line style (play -l <2:00 -g Classical)?

tame pier
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I wish I knew how to create videos

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Would totally make a meme video about Hacktoberfest in the same style as a lot of the Fortnite and other such videos.

sullen thorn
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@tired osprey 8.5k upvoted - I think I peaked

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Also fuck I overslept

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It’s 8am, and just woke up - wanted to get the 7am train

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@gentle moss how u feel about that?

gentle moss
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Indifferent

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I wonder if she saw it coming

sullen thorn
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Lmao

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Is it his fault tho, if she was on the course?

sand goblet
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It's not a smart idea to hang around on a golf course, but I think golfers are supposed to keep an eye out too

gentle moss
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yeah

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the fact it was a tournament as well

frosty marten
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Have you guys read about the solid?

sullen thorn
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No? What is it?

gentle moss
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golf ball to the eye ball

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👌

gentle moss
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BIRMINGHAM, England (Reuters) - A solution to providing frictionless trade across the Irish border after Britain leaves the European Union might be found using technology such as Blockchain, finance minister Phillip Hammond said on Monday```
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@sand goblet

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you couldn't make this fucking shit up

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BLOCKCHAIN TO SOLVE INTERNATIONAL BORDER DISPUTES

worn kite
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maybe he's picturing "block-chain" as a fence....

stark prawn
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Block chain might have some uses, but I don't understand why that gives value to cryptocoins

gentle moss
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hmm?

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it's similar arguments to the value of paper money

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but wtf is a blockchain based solution to the Irish border?

indigo flicker
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I really don't understand this blockchain thing

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1.why do people keep using it for things (eg above)
2. why are they using it wrong (eg above)

gentle moss
indigo flicker
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pff

gentle moss
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basically

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it's a linked chain of blocks and each block contains transactional information that is verified between different peers

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using cryptography

stark prawn
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it doesn't have to be distributed

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The main benefit of the blockchain is that it's immutable

gentle moss
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^

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since each block contains a hash of the previous block, you can't go fucking with it

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if any one block is fecked with the whole chain is kaput

stark prawn
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if a previous block gets changed the ones after it don't check out anymore

proper dune
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reminder: there is an Australian National Blockchain

gentle moss
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but i have no idea how you can apply it to a border dispute

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maybe keeping transactional records of uhhh

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people and goods moving across the border?

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i'm not at all sure how this helps anyone

stark prawn
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me neither

gentle moss
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perhaps he sees a world where the travel history of a truck and its goods are stored in a blockchain

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for proof of you know

stark prawn
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what i really want is signing important contracts with cryptography

gentle moss
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what's in it and where it's been

stark prawn
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signing with something like pgp

sour shale
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We already kinda have this just without the blockchain

gentle moss
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Estonia gives their citizens a key at birth

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and they use it for all their encounters with government stuff

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i think it was Estonia

proper dune
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@stark prawn Signing contracts is basically what the australian national blockchain was made for

stark prawn
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wouldn't that make the contracts public

gentle moss
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doesn't have to be the details of the contract just that two parties signed it and it's verified i guess

proper dune
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Blockchain is a distributed ledger technology that enables permissioned sharing of an immutable record among parties to create consensus and trust. It empowers multiple trading partners to collaborate and establish a single shared view of a contract without compromising details, privacy or confidentiality

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i guess not

gentle moss
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nice.

worn kite
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cough

gentle moss
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i also like

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"Superior quality steel connections plated in 24 karat gold"

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nice job, real nice.

stark prawn
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fortnite optimized router

gentle moss
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rofl

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pretty sure that line of routers had RCE's

sullen thorn
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RCE?

gentle moss
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remote code execution

sullen thorn
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Oh

gentle moss
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but maybe we could have some anti-virus cat5e and protect ourselves from the hackers

sullen thorn
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Isn’t that just false advertising tho? Like illegal?

sour shale
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yes Fortnite is illegal

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yes Fortnite is illegal

sullen thorn
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😒

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Not what I meant

sour shale
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Fortnite not allowed in society

glass gorge
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I agree with that

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But I will admit the new battle royale version of battlerite seems fun

sour shale
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even worse 😮

glass gorge
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Perhaps

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II haven't played it so I can't hate it yet

gentle moss
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no, it's not illegal advertising

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since technically it's "true"

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it's a gaming router, fortnite is a game, it's fortnite optimised

sand goblet
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@gentle moss Got a problem? Blockchain!

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Need a car? Blockchain!

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Slaves smuggled across the border? Blockchain!

gentle moss
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Need to match regulatory compliance with a land border nation? Blockchain!

sour shale
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Blockchain

gentle moss
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It's like that monorail song from the simpsons

sand goblet
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Blockchain kevlar vests!

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The bitcoin logo on it makes it extra strong

gentle moss
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Or maybe that stone cutters lodge song

sand goblet
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I don't know either of these tbh

sour shale
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Monorail song was great

gentle moss
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1m55s

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not too long

sullen thorn
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bisk i meant the hdmi cable with virus protection

gentle moss
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oh yeah that's TOTALLY not up to UK ASA standards

tired osprey
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There is an HDMI cable with virus protection?

gentle moss
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look up

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i posted a picture that i saw troy hunt post when he went HDMI cable shopping

tired osprey
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Jeez

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These?

gentle moss
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yeah, that picture i literally posted up a bit

tired osprey
#

Pft

#

Scrolling

gentle moss
#

that bottom one is just as funny though

#

"Superior quality steel connections plated with 24 karat gold"

#

rofl

tired osprey
#

Also why aren't you a meme lord anymore

gentle moss
#

because i only did that as a dumb joke

sullen thorn
#

can i be meme lord then?

gentle moss
#

do you own land?

sand goblet
#

@sullen thorn speaking of that hdmi cable

gentle moss
#

bbl, site trip

sullen thorn
#

uhhh... maybe

sand goblet
#

do you remember that ethernet cable

#

with the platinum plating

tired osprey
#

What

sullen thorn
#

i dont but it sounds ridiculous

tired osprey
#

Why

sand goblet
#

it was dumb

#

"This will make your streamed music sound better"

sullen thorn
#

lol did u buy it?

tired osprey
#

That's not the important question

#

The important question is did it work

sand goblet
#

No I didn't

#

and no it didn't

rough sapphire
#

Erhm.

stark prawn
#

24 karat gold plating.

#

That seems very fragile

rough sapphire
#

I wonder. Where's the connection between streamed music sounding better and platinum plated cable?

stark prawn
#

in your wallet

tired osprey
#

Metal better -> music better

#

Obvious

rough sapphire
#

Not really.

stark prawn
#

monster cables vs coat hangers

rough sapphire
#

It's plating.

tired osprey
#

Totally

rough sapphire
#

Not the cable itself.

tired osprey
#

The aura of the metal is making the music better

stark prawn
#

We music snobs just need something to feel superior about

rough sapphire
#

Oh. Right.

#

So... instead of devices with epic discretization...

stark prawn
rough sapphire
#

Plating something with gold?

stark prawn
#

gold is more conductive than silver iirc, but for the sound it shouldn't matter

rough sapphire
#

It can affect noise level.

#

But it's plating.

tired osprey
#

Again

#

The aura of the metal is shoo shooing the virus away

rough sapphire
#

Oh, right.

tired osprey
#

Viruses are afraid of knowledge

rough sapphire
#

I've forgot.

tired osprey
#

Not knowledge

#

God damn it autocorrect

#

Afraid of shiny things like gold

rough sapphire
#

I mean... If you want something to be as noiseless as possible you have to do whole cable out of gold.

tired osprey
#

Glass fiber

rough sapphire
#

Or this.

#

Much better.

#

I wonder can you plate fiber with gold?

stark prawn
#

gold plated coat hanger

rough sapphire
#

Hat stand.

tired osprey
#

As the glass is already shiny enough because it lets light through

#

Virus protection using gold is not a problem here

rough sapphire
#

Today was the tax day.

#

I have a small business and had to pay taxes.

#

Bureaucracy rekt me hard.

#

So... There were one type of report for my kind of businesses. I did it. Printed and came to submit it.

#

I was told that this report is wrong and I have to do the other one.

#

I came back. Began to do another one. And in the middle of it. I've found out that this new report isn't valid yet, because the law about it is fresh out of the senate.

stark prawn
#

The US still uses physical paper for that?

rough sapphire
#

I wasted 3 hours of driving back and forth just to submit the one I did in the first place.

#

I am no yank.

#

I wear addidas and listen to hardbass.

#

Vodka and bears included.

#

In Russland you have electronic tax report... But... my oh my.

#

They only work with IE.

#

And require special FSB accepted security tokens.

#

It's way too faken poor to use.

stark prawn
#

here the netherlands the business tax site if often overloaded on the last day of the deadline

rough sapphire
#

Do you have to have security tokens or smth to submit tax reports?

stark prawn
#

You need an account with 2FA

#

At least for personal ones

#

there may be more for business ones

rough sapphire
#

It's so funny though what our government do with electronic electronic document management.

#

This year they've introduced centralized revenue accounting system.

#

If you work with money you have to have this device which sends all of your operations to tax service.

#

And now hold on. You're about to cringe a lot.

#

Internet stores have to have this device too.

#

Even if they work with internet acquiring and all the data passes through banks and business accounts they have to have this device.

stark prawn
rough sapphire
#

Cost of that device is about monthly profit of a small town grocery store.

#

You have to pay 6-month or 1-year subscription for it.

#

You've bought it.

#

And you're paying for it to work.

stark prawn
#

damn, payment processing already is expensive as it is without it

rough sapphire
#

And yeah.

#

-6% of every transaction with cards because it's only allowed with this devices.

#

On top of that this thing...

#

Attention.

#

Now you're going to fall from your chair.

#

This thing stores all the checks that passing through it.

#

Like..

#

Not only it sends data it also stores it.

#

Ah, yeah.

#

This device isn't connected to any GSM service you have to pay for this yourself too.

#

What they do doesn't make any sense at all.

stark prawn
#

this seems like a troll

rough sapphire
#

No it's all real.

#

I am telling you.

#

Ah, one more thing.

#

Guess who owns company that "produces"(buys them in China) those devices.

stark prawn
#

some politician

rough sapphire
#

Yeah.

stark prawn
#

And he hasn't been prosecuted yet/

rough sapphire
#

Lmao.

#

"Yet".

stark prawn
#

Corruption is illegal here

rough sapphire
#

Lucky you.

#

In Russia you can start business with 150 euros as an initial capitalisation.

stark prawn
#

it's 50 here, doable

rough sapphire
#

But there are no good loan rates and no perspectives.

#

Had to find a way to abandon this sinking ship until it's too late.

tame pier
stark prawn
gentle moss
#

[14:04] Grote: 24 karat gold plating.
[14:05] Grote: That seems very fragile

#

gold plating is used as an anti-corrosion solution

#

that's why seeing it on normal consumer level stuff is quite funny

gentle moss
#

¬_¬

fierce lagoon
worn kite
#

no, just a permission issue

#

should be fixed soon, please stand by

fierce lagoon
#

Oh, as you say sir.

worn kite
#

well, probably

#

different people report different amounts of visible messages, it might also be a temporary Discord hickup.

#

We're investigating.

fierce lagoon
#

Oh.

sullen thorn
#

Is there a downside to using someone’s username as the salt for their pw?

stark prawn
#

its very easy to figure out?

gentle moss
#

that it's publically knowable?

sullen thorn
#

So?

gentle moss
#

in the context of a breach it'd be information the attacker might have

rain spindle
#

I use the word "salt" for my salt

gentle moss
#

the only thing making it "secure" is the fact they don't know you're doing it

#

which isn't security

rain spindle
#

Also.... Was the Facebook data leak just hash and salted info?

gentle moss
#

no idea, scope hasn't been published yet i think

rain spindle
#

Ok

sullen thorn
#

But I thought u store the salt with the hash... so wouldn’t an attacked get the salt in a breach anyway?

rain spindle
#

I never really understood how salting it helps

#

I understand hashing tho

sullen thorn
#

Salting means they can’t use rainbow tables to quickly guess common password

rain spindle
#

So basically just to be slightly more annoying

sullen thorn
#

And they can’t hash a password and then test it against everyone’s password (cuz everyone has a different salt)

rain spindle
#

To hack?

sullen thorn
#

Yeah - but not slightly, like wayyy more annoying

rain spindle
#

Well eh

gentle moss
#

sorry i was thinking of a nonce

sullen thorn
#

So can I use username as a salt? If all usernames are unique?

gentle moss
#

the point is that it's random thoooouuughhhh

rain spindle
#

LMAOOOOO

#

@gentle moss your a nonce

sullen thorn
#

Is a username not random? I think it’s random, just not very long

rain spindle
#

😜

sullen thorn
#

Lol

rain spindle
#

@sullen thorn not truly random

#

Well that's a different. Debate

sullen thorn
#

A random person in the world has to choose a string of characters that no one else can have already chosen... is that not random enough?

gentle moss
#

if you just had a table of users + hashed passwords from your thing

#

but we knew the username = the salt

rain spindle
#

That to

#

:^)

sullen thorn
#

But wouldn’t the table also contain the salt?

rain spindle
#

Yeah, how do they store hashes Vs salts?

gentle moss
#

why?

#

safe guard your salt

#

put it somewhere else mb

rain spindle
#

So like another server/dB?

gentle moss
#

could store the salt as a plain text file if you really wanted, doesn't matter so much

#

just keep the salt safe

#

the spice must flow

rain spindle
#

Lmao

#

Also

gentle moss
#

i'm not joking btw, it's fine to keep salts in plaintext

rain spindle
#

Anyone here actually set BIOS passwords?

gentle moss
#

yes

rain spindle
#

Ok Bisk

#

And ok

#

For laptops especially?

gentle moss
#

we full disk encrypt all laptops

rain spindle
#

Yeah but that's OTT for me :^)

gentle moss
#

it's a way to stop someone doing something to it

#

but with physical access a bios reset isn't too hard

rain spindle
#

Yeah

#

My laptop just stores code for me

#

That's all on gitlabs anyways hahaha

stark prawn
#

Setting a bios password on my personal pc is just a headache waiting to happen

gentle moss
#

aye

#

FDE can also be that pain

knotty summit
#

@sullen thorn
Here's the trick.
The salted password takes time to compute.

#

By having random salts, you randomize the salted password resulting hash.

#

You effectively cost attackers more time/energy to try and have precomputed tables.

#

See, they alreadh have password1234 => sha256

#

but they don't have. password1234+SALT => sha256

#

nor, password1234+SALT2 => sha256

#

you make it harder for them to guess passwords in an attack called "rainbow tables"

gentle moss
#

yeah, he's already aware of that

#

he's just missing the point that you don't store the salt in the same place as the hash

#

*salts

#

can't keep salts in the same table or db as the users/hashes because wtf is the point

rough sapphire
#

Guys

#

Anybody suggest me a good web browser? Except firefox or chromium

#

I heard of vivaldi, did anybody experienced it?

steel fox
#

Looks like it’ll be pretty straight forward

#

First time getting an outline like that though

knotty summit
#

@steel fox looks somewhat legit.

#

I'd probably take that class and not slam my head against th wall.

#

(has literally done that in class)

steel fox
#

Ye. It’s pretty interesting

#

She teaches it from a math heavy side though

odd thorn
#

Mmmm. Math.

tough stratus
#

tasty

steel fox
#

I just never go because she speaks really quietly and instead watch the lecture videos she uploads

sullen thorn
#

Ooh sql injection

#

I’d ace that section 😃

tough stratus
#

.E.

sullen thorn
#

Clay I can be at that station in 72h - I have a season ticket - but not gonna STAY there for 72h 😂

steel fox
#

Select * from * where @bleak lintel = Glorious_Leader

#

No you have to stay for 72 business hours

sullen thorn
#

returns ()

#

Idk u said stay there

steel fox
#

Such a good album

knotty summit
#

eh, would you look at "most used weapons" or "most efficient weapons"

#

big difference between "this has killed 2 billion over time" and "this can kill 2 billion by opening a jar of gas"

sand goblet
#

that's not how machine learning works though

#

but that's kind of the joke :P

carmine mauve
#

a couple friends of mine worked on a stockbot that used machine learning algorithms

#

the problem with using historical data is that it learns trends that are out of date

#

so the joke is valid if the dataset consists of all battles and try and predict the winning weapon without considering technological advance

#

because the general trend of things is that there's more history than relevant info

proper dune
#

It's not accurate. The goal is to learn the most effective weapon. If it's getting the one that wins more purely number wise, then that's a fault on the programmer for being a moron. You don't need ML to predict which weapon has won the most

sullen thorn
#

Do u define effective or does the ML define effective?

proper dune
#

You define effective. ML is just a maths model. You have to give it a value to optimise

#

If the result is bad after training, it's because you chose a model that can't represent the situation or because you gave it the wrong thing to optimise

#

Or maybe you're unlucky with your initial parameters but whatevs

carmine mauve
#

gradient descent produces a set of values that minimize loss in a pretty alien way

sullen thorn
#

Can u teach me ML raggy?

carmine mauve
#

e.g. it's remarkably hard to reverse engineer a 5 layer network to get any meaningful results

#

there are lots of methods that people use nowadays to try and reveal why a decision was made in networks, tho.

proper dune
#

It's not mathematically alien, it's just hard to interpret a complicated function. Choosing a model that is as interpretable as you need is your job. If you want something more interpretable, go for decision trees or something instead of a 20 layer Deep NN

carmine mauve
#

did i like do something to piss you off

#

or are you just irritable

sullen thorn
#

He’s not pissed off, this is cool for him

proper dune
#

^

carmine mauve
#

neat

steel fox
#
    if len(identifier) == 3:  # 3+ chars for 'f' and beyond
        if not identifier[0].isalnum():
            # this is only reached if the 1st char of the string is not alpha numeric
            if not identifier[2].isalnum():
                # this is only reached if the last char if the string is not alpha numeric
                if identifier[1].isalpha():
                    print(f"char \t \t {identifier[1]}")
``` when you can't use regex ![GWseremePeepoGGERS](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/402867853906280450.webp?size=128 "GWseremePeepoGGERS")
stark prawn
#

or don't know about the word and

worn kite
#

why can't?

steel fox
#

and is ugly

#

• Don’t use Python’s regular expression library

stark prawn
#

just roll your own

steel fox
#

yes

sullen thorn
#

Clay just go with my idea

#

monkey patch an is_char() function to the string class

tulip palm
#

impossible

#

builtin types cannot be modified

#

without like ctypes hackery

worn kite
#

Well, if by "Python's regular expression library" they mean re, just pip install regex and use that. It's more powerful anyway 😉

sullen thorn
#

Oh wat?

steel fox
#

no @tulip palm but you could create a MagicString class

#

and use that with an added method

tulip palm
#

lame

sullen thorn
#

Fucking magic string 😂😂😂

steel fox
#

r8 my code

sullen thorn
#

Why?

#

Not why r8 it, what’s the point of having written that code?

steel fox
#

Homework

#

Syllabus said to do it so I done it

sullen thorn
#

Have u done anything on compilers?

steel fox
#

This class

sullen thorn
#

How does an obfuscator work? Like I thought the job of a compiler was to make the code as efficient as possible, so wouldn’t this also remove any attempts at obfuscation?

#

Can u answer that?

steel fox
#

Obfuscators don't change functionality they just change variable names and move code around to make it harder to follow

sullen thorn
#

Ok... but wouldn’t the compiler just move it back?

steel fox
#

Sure but you can't read machine code

sullen thorn
#

And I thought in general compilers remove variable names anyway

steel fox
#

output by the compiler

sullen thorn
#

Yeah but u can decompile it no?

steel fox
#

Sure and then its a garbled mess whether obfuscated or not

sullen thorn
#

Oh

steel fox
#

most of the time, depend son the language

#

I think python decompiles almost 1:1 the original source for example, but i've never tried it.

#

Just saw a SO post on it

#

@bleak lintel do you like my code porn

bleak lintel
#

wow

#

that is impressive

steel fox
#

👌

#

suggestion to make it less bad

bleak lintel
#

delete it

steel fox
#

tru

#

I keep getting like

#

cant unpack non iterable nonetype

#

so i threw the line in a try block

sullen thorn
#

Turn that into a lambda function pls

#

So I can help u

steel fox
#
foo = lambda x: return ((len(x) < 2) && (x.isalpha()))
sullen thorn
#

Why < 2?

#

Why not == 1?

steel fox
#

less chars then == 1

tired osprey
#

hes golfing

sullen thorn
#

But could be len(0)

steel fox
#

ok

#

tell me how to pass a 0 char str into a function

#

and ill change it

tired osprey
#

""

sullen thorn
#

^^

steel fox
#

poggers

tired osprey
#

x("")

#

noob

#

but

#

"".isalpha() will return false

#

so youre good

steel fox
#

ye

sullen thorn
#

Hmmm

steel fox
#

that too

sullen thorn
#

Fine

#

Couldn’t I just not include the check for len(1) then?

#

Clay why aren’t u just using isalpha?

#

Oh nvm it works on full strings too

steel fox
#

why aren't you just using isalpha

sullen thorn
#

Apparently u can override builtins?

#

Also I just explained why i’m not using it 😂

steel fox
#

sure but you can't add a method into a built in object

sullen thorn
#

Is that not what he did there?

steel fox
#

Ye but you can’t do it with like str.foo I don’t believe

sullen thorn
#

Try

carmine mauve
#

you can do it if you edit Objects/strobject.c (i think) in python's source

#

might be unicodeobject now or something

steel fox
#

can't do that

sullen thorn
#

Can’t do mine or his?

steel fox
#

either

sullen thorn
#

😦

#

Ok well I gtg sleep but imma try tomorrow

steel fox
#

okie

bleak lintel
#

I wonder how I can figure out which arrow keys are being pressed

steel fox
#

idk how tf to make this not read like shit

ionic hill
#

@bleak lintel You writing an editor?

bleak lintel
#

yeye

ionic hill
#

Oh that's neat bud

#

what lang

bleak lintel
#

Rust

#

I found some nice ncurses wrapper so I'm learning ncurses

gentle moss
#

tell me what it is

#

raw ncurses is annoying

tired osprey
#

its aaaalive

#

the ruby translation is aaalive

gentle moss
#

#ot2-snappin-with-bisk

tame pier
sullen thorn
#

Why do ppl use yaml over json? Like what’s the difference between the 2?

sand goblet
#

It's way more human-friendly

candid anvil
#

yaml is better

sand goblet
#

And yaml can be extended with richer types and such

#

Also, like many of these technologies, neither is "better"

candid anvil
#

json is just ugly aesthetically even, imo. although that is at the end of the list for YAML vs JSON

sand goblet
#

They have different uses

candid anvil
#

ehh

#

do they?

sand goblet
#

Yes :P

#

When was the last time you used yaml for a rest API?

candid anvil
#

just flat config text ultimately, syntaxed in whatever manner

sand goblet
#

And when did databases get native yaml support?

candid anvil
#

well i'd be glad to use YAML if it was the industry standard, forget web dev - json is already here to stay

sand goblet
#

Saltstack actually does support yaml in its APIs but that's more of a coincidence than something you'll need

candid anvil
#

see what happens when webdev gets shoved away a bit? 😉

slate quail
#

even if JSON weren't the standard, I'd prefer it over YAML, because JavaScript syntax

#

consistency between the lang and the formatting of its communication can really simply the thought process

proper dune
#

that's why you use TOML

slate quail
#

TOML doesn't look like JS!

#

or Python, with those section headers

#

yeah, don't think I like the look of TOML or YAML for API transport

proper dune
#

I dont care about API transport, I was thinking more configuration and stuff

#

JSON is fine for API

#

You're usually interacting with it from the language which means it doesnt matter too much how it looks

#

Configs are also edited by humans

sand goblet
#

I've been thinking about toml

#

It's supposed to be the be all and end all of config languages

#

I heard it supports file inheritance

slate quail
#

I like that it looks somewhat like INI but I haven't asked anyone why it's supposed to be better than YAML

#

definite sections, I guess?

tough stratus
#

YAML is kind of clumsy, not seen toml before though

slate quail
#

clumsy?

tough stratus
#

The syntax was a lot less obvious than something like JSON in my opinion.

#

Toml looks pretty nice

slate quail
#

as far as how it's represented in language structures, perhaps. but YAML's minimalism and readability seems a marked advantage in many cases

tough stratus
#

And tabs vs spaces thingy

slate quail
#

it forbids tabs, is that what you mean?

tough stratus
#

Yeah, probably

proper dune
#

Rust community has welcomed TOML. I didn't think about it too much but I've come to like it a lot

sand goblet
#

It seems fine, but I'd like to make sure it does what I need

#

file inheritance is the main thing I don't want to have to do myself

sand goblet
#

uughguhgugh

#

work site is on a PHP older than 5.4

#

how am I supposed to work with this

stark prawn
#

very carefully

sand goblet
#

it's just wordpress but none of the plugins I want support this version

#

I just want sharing buttons dammit

stark prawn
sand goblet
#

yikes, 53 CVEs

gentle moss
#

wordpress running on 5.4 is old wordpress too

stark prawn
#

bots constantly crawl the web looking for outdated wordpress sites to take over

gentle moss
#

xmlrpc etc

sand goblet
#

it's not on 5.4

#

it's on older than 5.4

#

I dunno what it's on

#

it's wordpress 4.9.8

#

seems to be up to date

gentle moss
#

running on older than 5.4? o_O

#

i thought the cut off was just above 5.4

sand goblet
#

well that's what this plugin says

sand goblet
#

eeey I just got it upgraded to 7

#

thanks host

gentle moss
#

woot woot i got a fun case to investigate

#

one of our clients sent bank details for a payment to one of their customers

sour shale
#

👀

gentle moss
#

the customer said they received a pdf document with bank details in and paid to that account. that document looks nothing like the one our client provides

stark prawn
#

Phishing 🙃

gentle moss
#

yeaaaah

#

but also this customer is in numerous breaches

#

the false bank detail document contained the correct name and address of the company, just a different sort code / account num and no branding

#

the customer says she never got the email from our client

#

so the customer is flipping her shit

stark prawn
#

SpearPhising

gentle moss
#

SpearPhishing + Account compromise is my thoughts

#

i'm just gathering proof because that customer is a craaaaaaaazy sounding person

#

literally already threatening legal action

knotty summit
#

@gentle moss
I had a bitcoin person try to offer proof of funds by doctoring their name onto a company account printout

gentle moss
#

The sort code / account number are for a small pop up / easy banking with little ID proof type bank too

knotty summit
#

just take it to the bank, ask them to "verify" information

#

they will respond with "yes" or "no"

#

(US)

gentle moss
#

I think this is unlikely someone trying to defraud our client due to the nature of the purchase

#

So it's about providing enough technical evidence to make this customer realise that they're the ones at fault

gentle moss
#

Annnnnnnd solved.

tame pier
#

BTW, JSON is actually a subset of YAML

sour shale
#

yes

#

YAML is nicer for configs

#

JSON is better for passing data

tired osprey
#

but i like my json 😦

tame pier
#

Simpler is faster

granite lake
#

is it secured tho?

tired osprey
#

how does one secure a data format

granite lake
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obfuscation

gentle moss
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you use the braces the wrong way around

sour shale
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JSON is far from the fastest choice anyway

tame pier
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Yaml has arbitrary code execution in the language spec

gentle moss
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it'll throw all the hackers of

tame pier
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Look it up

sour shale
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if you want speed you don't want JSON

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you want Captian Pronto

gentle moss
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]0, 1, 2, 3[```
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yeah

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no one's breaking my data

sullen thorn
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If I saw a massive one line json file looking like that id give up

tired osprey
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break(bisks_data)

tame pier
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Use jq

sour shale
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Yaml has arbitrary code execution in the language spec:O :O
is this true
i use yaml

tame pier
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cat file.json | jq .

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It doesn't if you use safe_loader in Pyyaml, which is the default

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Well I'm off later

steel fox
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Yes it’s true cake

robust sierra
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hey @lone otter

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you go college right?

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i dont know if this is a dumb question

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but could i put my github profile on my college application?

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will they even care about my github or only the stuff i did at school?

sullen thorn
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Yes

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They care

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100%

steel fox
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Probably couldn't hurt, but if your profile is bad it could hurt. Unless you're aiming for like a top university though its probably not needed. I just applied with ACT scores and got in

rough sapphire
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I bought ath m20x yesterday and i'm so blown away

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I wen't from phone 5$ earphones to those, and it's just euphoric

robust sierra
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im talking about uk colleges

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i think its high school in other places

steel fox
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HS is grade 9-12 for us

gentle moss
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UK colleges aren't high school

sour shale
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Depends if Sixth Form College

sullen thorn
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@sour shale why will u be in Melton Mowbray tomorrow?

sour shale
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Wut @sullen thorn

sullen thorn
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Was that not u?

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Who said they’d be there tomorrow?

sour shale
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Not me

sullen thorn
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Oh @steel fox u said that

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Clay aren’t u in the US tho?

steel fox
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Yeah I was just memeing

sullen thorn
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Aww 😦

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Thought u was gonna come visit

steel fox
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....hell no

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REEEEE this DB query is failing stupidly

sullen thorn
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What is it?

worn kite
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that sounds like if you were working with Oracle

sullen thorn
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And what DBv

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*?

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Yeah - but also I can help - spent countless hours debugging MySQL queried

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*queries

steel fox
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It was just an insert statement but sea octothorpe is dumb

steel fox