#ot1-perplexing-regexing
gusty lynx
sinful turtle
🤔
tired osprey
A study also found a relation between opera music and surviving cancer
sinful turtle
@tired osprey
tired osprey
If it wasn't for the comic sans I'd appreciate
sinful turtle
whats wrong with comic sans ms
gusty lynx
when you listen to opera music you generally are able to afford better medical care
sinful turtle
i should've made the background into this
(haha do you get the funny pun its so funny hahahaahhhahaahhaqa)
silence
gusty lynx
@tired osprey this...this is true
tired osprey
They got some derivation of the nobel price for that
It's the derivation for the most ridiculous research
tired osprey
Yes
robust sierra
hey nix
you will always have better internet than me
however, this is a miracle http://www.speedtest.net/result/7657808606
tired osprey
Yup
No
Sorry for the confusion it was 5 years ago I didn't remember correctly, it's the survival rate of mice with heart transplantation @sinful turtle @gusty lynx
sinful turtle
very similar to opera music
tired osprey
"Auditory stimulation of opera music induced prolongation of murine cardiac allograft survival and maintained generation of regulatory CD4+CD25+ cells"
Classical music has an effect on survival rate of heart transplanted mice
Paper is there
worn kite
so.... let's just take the heart out of this mouse and put it in another one, while having a fat lady shriek at them...
for science!
sinful turtle
does anyone have a switch im bored
stark prawn
What kind
worn kite
awww
stark prawn
switch day:
case saturday:```I don't have one of those then
glass gorge
Man i was ready for a light switch jam
tired osprey
No @worn kite let's replace their heart and sometimes do the fat lady thing to see wether it makes a difference or not
gusty lynx
wow that's ∑psilonsetting
glass gorge
:D
Bus driver is listening to '40s pop, whistling and singing along
WhatI a cheerful guy
steel fox
How is he listening to music from 10 years in the future
tired osprey
By listening to music from 80 years in the past clay
stark prawn
is 80 years into the past even real
steel fox
I don’t think it is grote
stark prawn
part of the conspiracy
glass gorge
steel fox
Don’t disrespek your elders floppy
I figure if I write 1 like of code on this transpiler a day by the time it’s done c# will be a dead language
worn kite
my bus driver once started playing a harmonica
steel fox
He’s my spirit animal
steel fox
Py to C#
tame pier
Vim is an editor
I don't think it does linting or static type analysis or navigation linkages between components of a project
tired osprey
Some plugins can do that if you want
But it's still an editor, just a good one then
tulip narwhal
I code inside UpBGE 😄
in the built in editor
as for versioning, I save to a local repo nightly
and have stuff in google drive / one drive etc
there is a plugin to Use visual studio though
and launch the game engine from the ide.
steel fox
Kind of @tulip narwhal C# is interpreted to byte code and then that bytecode is compiled by the CLR
tulip narwhal
what would be amazing is something like nuitka that used a GAN to generate modules and test them
and try and write a faster and faster lib to replace your functions you call with C++ or bytecode or whatever.
code thing using python -> go to bed -> wake up to 40x faster implementation
bleak lintel
I use Unix as my IDE and Vim as my editor component of the IDE :^)
steel fox
Coding with random.sample and waiting until something runs 👌
steel fox
Ok
serene saddle
thx :)
ionic hill
Joseph you're missing the integrated part of IDE
tired osprey
Unix is integrated into his pc obviously
wild yarrow
yeah
tame pier
There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus.
wild yarrow
aw yeah the matrix
10/10 film
Mr. Anderson
i think i'm going to try to make scotch eggs
sounds relatively simple
and fun
serene saddle
and tasty
wild yarrow
yee :D
and if all goes well i will get some spicy bulk sausage because food with no spice is like eating cardboard
glass gorge
Why am I still awake
glass gorge
1am
glass gorge
Its super late
wild yarrow
sleep till 3
glass gorge
Im asleep by 11pm usually
glass gorge
I like it tbh
wild yarrow
that's good :D
glass gorge
But hey had to socialise a bit
wild yarrow
socializing is good
wild yarrow
nice!
glass gorge
I suck at pool
wild yarrow
that's ok c:
glass gorge
wild yarrow
c:
glass gorge
Now thats context has been illuminated
I have to ask thy for thee opinion in a life threatening manner
Do I wake up at 6am like normal, or sleep in.
glass gorge
Life or death here
wild yarrow
o.o
glass gorge
Me no like
I get the grumps then
Esp if I oversleep
Oh btw, its fun observing drunk peoe
wild yarrow
it is
glass gorge
People
wild yarrow
drunk people are great
wild yarrow
:P
glass gorge
I like the mad in love, I will totally marry this person couples
wild yarrow
👌
glass gorge
Even though they just met that night
glass gorge
Ay... I forgot my bed isn't made
wild yarrow
people... make their bed?
wild yarrow
i just kinda pull blankets over myself :P
glass gorge
wild yarrow
:P
gusty lynx
∑
tame pier
gusty lynx
some one said assembly is the best language?
gusty lynx
yeah i agree
tired osprey
i explained how python doesnt compile to assembler to him for over an hour
ionic hill
loool
gusty lynx
woooow
wild yarrow
what is interpretting an AST?
what is bytecode compiled language mean?
🤦
that's depressing Nix
tired osprey
after he wouldnt accept it his "mentor" (dunno a good translation) a cs phd guy and another cs student told him i was right
he accepted that
ionic hill
.. lol
wild yarrow
lmao
ionic hill
a simple google search could have confirmed it
ionic hill
: )
gusty lynx
i feel bad for the mentor
wild yarrow
yeah
tired osprey
yeah im not even sure how they got their project done with a programmer like him
wild yarrow
^
solar zealot
and with great and terrible effort
tired osprey
(on the other hand the winners used like 99 percent open source software and had a cs master guy as programmer so...)
gusty lynx
well i just hope he/her learned something
tired osprey
her isnt the word to use here
tired osprey
why does everyone talk about food WHEN I CANT GET FOOD
wild yarrow
that sounds awesome c:
tired osprey
HMMMMM
wild yarrow
👌
ionic hill
🤢
wild yarrow
that is amazing
bleak lintel
why are we sharing meats
gusty lynx
It took close to 8 hours to made and I had to sub in for the filet
bleak lintel
how did this start
gusty lynx
idk i just kind of brought up food
ionic hill
friends not food 😢
gusty lynx
apologies if you are vegetarian @ionic hill
ionic hill
it's okay you owe me none, I just like complaining
gusty lynx
nice, a ham sandwich sounds good
the good thing is it came out looking like this
only problem was the mushrooms weren't heated enough to boil out the water so it ended up seeping into the dough
still it turned out mmmk just gonna try and make it refined more for december
tame pier
I'm going to have some overnight oatmeal as a evening snack
gusty lynx
microwaved?
gusty lynx
awwweeee
bleak lintel
i might go grab myself a burrito
gusty lynx
Hmmmm cognitive science is fun right now
tame pier
Maybe I'll just got back on the Soylent starvation diet
gusty lynx
We get to do chapter summaries
sour shale
Soylent starvation diet needs fibre rly
tame pier
Because I'm lazy
tame pier
Bread is food
wild yarrow
mini fridge?
gusty lynx
sinful copper
looks like a sugar cream pie, texturally, though that doesn't have buttermilk
knotty yew
When was it changed from three-word phrases to two-word phrases for off-topic channels?
ionic hill
We had a summit on the topic in Helsinki
Where all the staff and some specially selected normal members met
and came to a decision
to strike down the existence of 3 word phrase OT channel topic names
you weren't invited though
knotty yew
Heh
wild yarrow
always an important part of any good ritual
knotty yew
Poor Juan
wild yarrow
O.O
royal tartan
slate crown
Known
Plz can you help me (#help-coconut)
Im sure that my issue is easy to fix
But I cant see from where it comes
slate quail
what's one word long but also entertaining?
tame pier
cheese
steel fox
https://github.com/tg21/python-on-pails?files=1 @wild yarrow
wild yarrow
HA!
👌
Lucy, there are far too many good answers to that, many of which aren't SFW o///o
shell blade
tame terrace
@wild yarrow some members of this server kept saying that they used the toaster to make grilled cheese
you put the toaster on its side, stick a piece of bread with cheese on it inside of it, and pray to sweet cheesus that it doesn't short circuit and burn your house down.
all the cool kids are doing it.
steel fox
thats the american way to make grilled cheese
tame pier
🦅 🧀
wild yarrow
i make mine in a cast iron or ceramic like sane people
wild yarrow
how does grilling a cheese waste a caste iron
you can like deep fry stuff in a cast iron
unless you use cheep chinese iron
wild yarrow
c:
yeah, skillet and replacing the butter with mayo on the bread is so good
it's so... idk
it's just amazing
it's how i grill my cheese now O///O
tame pier
I need one of those
wild yarrow
they're really nice, def reccomend
tame terrace
it can do more than just toast, too
wild yarrow
O.O
tame terrace
at least the picture I linked, technically it's a table grill.
wild yarrow
OH, nice
sullen thorn
any chance one of you can compare 2 databases for me?
i basically want a share memory thing so like mutliple python scripts can share memory
doesnt need to be ACID compliant or anything
kinda like redis, but redis is single threaded and ACID compliant :/
my 2 options are aerospike and voldemort
and im pretty sure i wanna use aerospike (it looks amazing) but its also really hard to research voldemort
like i cant just google how fast is voldemort
like wtf
steel fox
You can timeit if you wanted speed comparisons
sullen thorn
hmmm
do ppl actually test stuff like that?
like people actually bother to install databases and run tests?
tame terrace
I could give you a random hiphop name. we provide this as a service. free of charge!
sour shale
hiphop name BEST
sand goblet
@wild yarrow you have to keep a cast iron seasoned
Although I'm a hypocrite because I have a little cast iron that fits exactly one grilled cheese
But that's okay
gentle moss
i didn't wash my cast iron for a few days and now it's got rust :/
sour shale
is cast iron worth
robust sierra
this offtopic name is the best
robust sierra
@everyone
wild yarrow
you do have to keep it seasoned
but it's not that terrible
it's like 5 minutes per thing you use it for
o.o
oh jeez
phew
wild yarrow
o.o
yeah i wouldn't trust them either o.o
you don't dishwash cast iron
wtf
i'm sorry tho, that's disfortunate that they seem unaware
glass gorge
No you put it next to the sink and wait for it to magically clean itself like any sensible person
There's quite a few of those magical rules
If I put a bunch of dirty clothes in a basket, they end up washed and folded in my drawer
sullen thorn
about to wipe my laptop and reinstall fresh copy of windows, dont think i need to save anything, any tips or suggestions before i do so?
like something i may have forgotten?
sullen thorn
well half of it is like games and films, but theres at least 50GB of files
ok fuck im gonna move stuff to dropbox just in case
or ill be too anxious
other ppl cant see stuff on your dropbox account right?
sinful pivot
nope
ionic hill
I think you typo'd @sullen thorn
I think you meant "Fresh copy of freshly compiled Gentoo Linux"
sullen thorn
nah i got servers for that
would be weird using linux with a gui anyway
also...
tf
ah shit i deleted itunes :/ needed that
no idea how i managed not to delete discord
sullen thorn
Yup
I don’t wanna keep my files tho lol (but also scared of deleting something important)
I put the ones that might be important on gdrive and i’ll sort through them later
Mostly that they might contain some code that I don’t wanna rewrite
Never really figured out git on windows, so I would just make files and name them and save them randomly
Like mainbot1, mainbot2, bot2improved...
So I have no idea what each file actually is
And whenever I managed to finish projects, then i’d upload them manually to github
So the really important stuff is there
sullen thorn
Well thank fuck u convinced me to make a backup
Had an excel file with a detaile description of how I wanted my bot storage to work
Like MySQL, in memory python, and in memory aerospike
And if I deleted that id be really sad
glass gorge
On top of all that, it would be really neat if you could stay sane.
stark prawn
being sane as a starting requirement isn't realistic
vapid bluff
only an insane person would want to stay sane
tame pier
!warn @naive gust Don't DM asking for help, we're not tutors, use a help channel
royal lakeBOT
:ok_hand: warned @naive gust (Don't DM asking for help, we're not tutors, use a help channel).
glass gorge
Whelp time to get outta bed
odd thorn
Unless it's a bed of ice...
glass gorge
or bed of blazing hot inferno
I got out, made coffee to substitute the missing heat, we good 
robust sierra
@glass gorge is that a face reveal?
steel fox
It is not
robust sierra
sad
steel fox
His pfp is a @wild yarrow selfie
robust sierra
ooH
sand goblet
@wild yarrow the one where you had like a star plushie?
Where you hid your face like some kind of GW poster :P
sand goblet
Haha, I know, it's all good
wild yarrow
c:
wild yarrow
it’s super nice c:
sand goblet
It looks nice :P
sand goblet
That's a name I haven't heard before
sand goblet
Aha
Well yeah I figured
I'll have to look it up sometime
Are you the kind of person to keep a bunch of plushies?
rough sapphire
listen to joyner lucas's remix
wild yarrow
Nice c: plushies are great
sand goblet
most of mine are ponies :P
wild yarrow
c:
wild yarrow
nice!
glass gorge
I had (not sure if he still exists) a pikachu plushie from when I was a young boi
wild yarrow
c:
glass gorge
Cutes yellow blob
sand goblet
TANOOKI
ionic hill
I have a christmas curious george plush c:
sand goblet
calm down there, buckaroo
stark prawn
we've had enough truth for the day
thin pebble
have you found that there actually a substantial difference between the "random" discussion on different forums ?
stark prawn
yes
rough sapphire
I sent this to a friend that loves c# and knows no other jang other than c#
sand goblet
"communities tend to be different from each other"
yes, go on
@rough sapphire stop spamming that
stark prawn
you posted that before
sand goblet
you just posted that in another channel
rough sapphire
Not spamming.. also deleted it there
thin pebble
if you're on a python discord and a philosophy discord, either one could rant about trump again and again
rough sapphire
Yea i know.. i have a deasese, if i don't get reaction i have to report
thin pebble
is this what the random discussion on the python channel tends to be like ?
stark prawn
I find a no politics rule exists in many offtopics on different servers because it can become hard to mod
sand goblet
but we're not an off-topic community
sand goblet
well yeah, that's not exactly a surprise
off-topic channels are always busy on every community
and that isn't off-topic
rough sapphire
If ur not an offtopic community, you should endorse on-topic ones.
sand goblet
okay, sure, smartass :P
but people are always going to be off-topic sometimes
it just naturally happens, that's how conversation works
rough sapphire
I mean having 3 offtopic channels to 1 discussion also helps.. to go offtopic
rough sapphire
I like to argue with owners untill i get banned lul
sand goblet
but then, yknow, we grew
we're almost at 8000 users
it was hard to follow conversation in a single channel
rough sapphire
Yea you only grew cause every other lang sucks and python is life
sand goblet
"you grew because people like the subject of your server"
yes, go on
give me more revelations
:P
rough sapphire
And because other servers suk
sand goblet
there aren't really many other python communities on discord
we're the biggest, as far as we know
rough sapphire
And also why is java #1 and python only #3
sand goblet
because more companies use java?
sand goblet
java is super common
sand goblet
google uses a whole bunch of languages
including java
android is entirely java-based
sand goblet
because bullying is ever the answer to anything
rough sapphire
Jawa is slovvvv
rough sapphire
Wdymmmm
sand goblet
the JVM is a wonder of modern software engineering
rough sapphire
Ok guess i'm just dumb
sand goblet
you're just comparing your experience of java to your experience of minecraft
rough sapphire
Yea
rough sapphire
Why is this a toaster chese channel?
sand goblet
Oh, the off-topic channels are renamed randomly every day
rough sapphire
Really?
sand goblet
Yep
rough sapphire
I suggest using channel name no-c-discussions
sand goblet
@royal lake does it
rough sapphire
Oo
sand goblet
we have a huge list of potential names
rough sapphire
Gimme one ;-;
sand goblet
but you'll have to wait for them to come around :P
well, toaster-cheese is one
haha
rough sapphire
Rude.
sand goblet
it's part of the fun
rough sapphire
Everything is rude.
sand goblet
well you're doing a good job of perpetuating that
rough sapphire
Some people started a fight with me in another channel because i said rude
And then i got banned yay
stark prawn
g stands for legend seems like a meta title
rough sapphire
Some people don't understand my humor
worn kite
how rude of them
rough sapphire
^
sand goblet
r00d
rough sapphire
Also.. where did the minecraft channel go...? 😛
sand goblet
awaaaay
rough sapphire
To another galaxy i know..
worn kite
to a better place
sand goblet
we used to have a minecraft server but people stopped playing
rough sapphire
I used song lyrics there..
I had an idea
I wanna try
I will download popular youtube videos and upload them on my channel
Viewsss
stark prawn
Thats not allowed by youtube
worn kite
FBI, open up!
rough sapphire
Hey fbi come in have a poisonous cookie!
stark prawn
attempted murder of a fbi agent 
rough sapphire
Hey judge, here's the cookie i killed the fbi agent with, have a bite!
PROBLEM SOLVED
tame terrace
yes. no big deal, just overthrow the government with poison cookies
what could go wrong
then when you're president you can allow youtube piracy
worn kite
sounds like a plan, please proceed
rough sapphire
So when do we start
robust sierra
what is the mobile and stationary phase of chromatography? i looked online and it was all gibberish language
robust sierra
i know one answer to the question
(thats the mobile phase)
im just confused about the stationary thing
oh shit
the gibberish language makes sense now
i was just overthinking :)
stationary = Chromatography paper Mobile = Solvent in capillary action
steel fox
Rip. Rosenstein getting fired
vapid bluff
holy shit really?
steel fox
ye
some sources leaked he was resigning, he came out and said no i'm 100% not resigning if I leave it's a firing
vapid bluff
ah yes
if he's fired there's some rules about succession or something iirc
whereas if he resigns trump can just pick whoever he wants
right?
glass gorge
is this us politics stuff?
vapid bluff
no, this is patrick
steel fox
I'm honestly not sure on succession vs picking
glass gorge
🚜
vapid bluff
yeah, it's about trump potentially firing a government official who's investigating him @glass gorge
vapid bluff
amusing is one way to put it 😛
glass gorge
Amusing to watch, maybe not so much to experience
bleak lintel
good
if people don't know who to exit vim they deserve to feel the pain
let them suffer
worn kite
I found the -------- BEGIN PRIVATE KEY ---------- tweet better
bleak lintel
lol yeah that was funny
glass gorge
Waiting for a dishwasher to finish is probably the most boring thing ive done all day
lost hornet
Are they actually rewriting python just to change slave-master stuff?
lost hornet
study rock music
worn kite
sounds lovely
lost hornet
out of curiosity, what libraries does this change affect?
worn kite
too nice to be true though
sand goblet
They aren't changing all instances
Only the ones that actually don't make sense
And those are almost entirely internal
vapid bluff
i dont think anyone's claiming that it's going to fix society
sand goblet
The people pushing for it claim it's going to fix society
Because nothing is allowed to be fucking insignificant anymore
vapid bluff
can you show me one instance of a place where someone claims changing these terms will reduce/fix slavery in any way?
sand goblet
I mean, if you're asking me that, you haven't done much research
You can go read about the controversy, and then actually look at the comment threads
vapid bluff
ah, the old 'google it cause i dont have evidence to back myself up'
sand goblet
Ah yes, of course, there can be no other reason
I couldn't possibly be on my phone while cooking dinner
That'd be weird
vapid bluff
then just say 'im too busy' or something to that effect
sand goblet
Right?
Well yeah but that won't tell you where to look
You need to actually dig into the comments
ebon quarry
i think these things are a waste of time. just think of what great things you could build to make a lot of developers happy rather than the time you spend on replacing some words because 2 people think they will make anything better with it
sand goblet
And tbh I don't blame you if you don't what to, they really get to be pretty shitty
ebon quarry
vapid bluff
i can see the validity of both points of view, but imo the side that's getting upset about the change is more ridiculous
if it's really such an insignificant term to you then whats the harm in changing it?
sand goblet
The article makes a good point
In some cases it's a significant workload and the people championing the change actually don't give a shit about doing good
Like, you say you're not interested in making the change and they start calling you a nazi or a fascist
So apparently the feelings someone might feel when it relates to a term don't matter when you disagree with them, eh?
It's an empty crusade
They just want to pretend that they're actually helping people to make themselves feel better
And they really don't give a shit about the collateral
That's my take on it, anyway
There are things people can do to make people's lives better
This isn't it
Not to mention the fact that the master/slave model in context actually does do a pretty good job of explaining some software setups
vapid bluff
So apparently the feelings someone might feel when it relates to a term don't matter when you disagree with them, eh? isnt this literally what the people who are against the change are doing?
kind of ironic, no?
sand goblet
Not really?
I mean, I'm not gonna try to make someone feel like shit just because I disagree with them
vapid bluff
the people who are against the change are dismissing the points of view of those for it because they disagree with them
sand goblet
You're missing the point
These are people pretending to be offended in the stead of other people
vapid bluff
thats your opinion
sand goblet
The people they're "sticking up for" often don't actually care about it
lost hornet
ignoring context, it would take hundred of hours across all languages that use the terminology to change the source code and the documentation for the sourcecode
That's why the progranners are angry
It's a lot of work for something that's a very personal reason
sand goblet
Yeah, if it were easy then I wouldn't give a shit
lost hornet
I rename my variables on a whim simply because my code is usually very short
vapid bluff
the same argument could be applied to more or less any big change
'x results in potential knock on work then it shouldnt be undertaken'
lost hornet
try asking them to put in a few hundred hours of community service in impoverished neighbourhoods
vapid bluff
not that im even convinced thats really true, that it really is that big of a change
lost hornet
that would help more than changing source code that almost nobody reads
sand goblet
@vapid bluff in the case of redis there is a large cascading effect
Since it means they have to deprecate the current API version and provide a rewritten one with the terms changed
Everyone using redis now has to deal with these changes
And we're solving a problem with these changes that I'm really not convinced actually exists
Here's the thing
If it was such a big deal, by now we would have some kind of organised movement
But it really actually just seems to be kind of a flash mob thing
Like you wake up one morning and there's a ticket with 300 comments discussing why you should be shot
You know what I'm saying?
vapid bluff
was that the redis guy?
sand goblet
I think so
Say what you want but no credible group is in the business of intimidating its way to a better world
worn kite
sand goblet
I was brought up to believe that bullies were a bad thing.
vapid bluff
a lot of people have different ideas of what 'political correctness' really means.
sand goblet
Brb, washing up
vapid bluff
some use it as a guise for toxic behaviour and then play the victim when called out
idk, i just think it's very easy to mischaracterize a genuine case of calling out something wrong as being too pc.
sinful copper
@worn kite soon we'll all push to the mistress branch instead too the consensus is that "master" by itself isn't offensive
sand goblet
I wonder if they'll start policing stuff like dom/sub
If not I'm totally using that the next time
:P
steel fox
Just feels like a dumb change to spend a bunch of man hours on
sand goblet
@vapid bluff I don't think the movement has any credibility
If the big organisations that care about equality in tech were championing this then maybe I'd change my mind
But they are not
vapid bluff
i can see the validity in that argument, in cases where it's a huge integral part of the program, as it apparently is in redis' case
sand goblet
Not even the UN cares, and they've already shown to be too far into this
Supporting toxic groups like CON and the ADL
vapid bluff
but then i think, what if these were different, even more potentially offensive, outright hostile terms?
would the amount of work required to change the terms over still not be worth it?
worn kite
will we have to stop touching files and killing processes?
sand goblet
But that's an inherently loaded and problematic concept
worn kite
will we have to check how a command works by reading its woman-page?
sand goblet
It wouldn't ever actually make it into the codebase
vapid bluff
im just thinking hypothetically
sand goblet
Master/slave has actual value as a software management concept because it accurately describes a form of process management
It doesn't have anything to do with actual slavery
You have to take it way out of context to get to that point
Because of that I really don't think the hypothetical is relevant
It's not inherently a loaded term
I feel like a true loaded term should never make it into any serious project's codebase
vapid bluff
loaded by whose standards?
sand goblet
The vernacular
This whole master/slave thing is new
Most loaded terms were always loaded
sinful copper
it's really not
i remember a push to change the same thing about [PATA] hard drives, and some manufacturers did make the change before it ended up being made irrelevant by SATA
sand goblet
That's still way newer than original uses of the terms though
If you went out on the street and walked up to a person and went "Look at you, you fucking slave"
They would probably be.. Very confused
Whereas many other terms would just get you lynched
That's why I don't see it as a loaded term
steel fox
There are terms all over than can be “offensive” if you jump through enough hoops. But they describe the situation perfectly. Just seems like such a wasted change
sand goblet
Yeah, and realistically it's possible to be offended by basically anything
That doesn't really make it justified
You aren't right just because you're annoyed
That's conversation 101 really
Should we stop talking about water because Hitler needed to drink it?
</rant>
steel fox
I mean just look at all the racial slurs here that have normal uses in other fields. Stuff isn’t like, offensive until you direct it at a person / group offensively. Kind of weird to base a change off a perception of people being offended. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs
vapid bluff
Yeah, and realistically it's possible to be offended by basically anything i disagree with this. when someone genuinely feels offense at something it's not a choice. it's by being confronted with something they feel is not right. if your argument is that 'anyone can think anything is not right' and therefore 'everything can be considered right/wrong' then we might as well shed all morality and ethics aside since there's no standards we can agree on.
also, it's ironic how the people who claim other people are too easily offended get so upset at their perceived offense.
sand goblet
I don't really get offended by it, though
It's not offensive, it's just a waste of time
And people don't seem to care that these things have effects
worn kite
as Fry said it, the things proposed there might even be right, but they're by far not effective and the costs greatly outweight the possible gain
vapid bluff
thats your opinion
sand goblet
It's not like I get mad at people suggesting this stuff
vapid bluff
and effective to what end? i still dont see anyone trying to cure the world of slavery by changing python's use of master/slave
sand goblet
I get mad at people that suggest this stuff, get shot down, and decide that it's then appropriate to start calling people fascists and ruining their lives
The moment you start doing that, you lose all credibility
If a project decides they want to make the change, that's on them, though, it's their project
The Python changes really don't affect anyone
So while I think they're a bit pointless, I.. Don't care
lost hornet
@vapid bluff feelings can be wildly unfounded or highly opinionated, most people would probably prefer some objective arguments before they have to scour through every line of their codebase due to one of their libraries being changed
imagine if 'random' was changed to 'probability' for accuracy reasons, do you think anyone would be mad?
The people that would be mad would know that the name would be more accurate, but the cost of changing it would be like knocking down an apartment building to replace the foundations, even if the building wasn't in danger of collapsing
sorry for digging up the argument again, I just don't think that a political argument is valued as much as a practicality argument
sacred token
So long story short, I'm writing a lambda calculus reducer
rough sapphire
no guarantees I'll know how to fix anything but I can take a look
sacred token
(a b c d e f) should reduce to (((((a b) c) d) e) f)
My grammar does the exact opposite
rough sapphire
oh huh
sacred token
(a (b (c (d (e f)))))
Lemme post the relevant sections
?start: expr
?expr: IDENT -> var
| expr expr -> apply
| ("λ" | "\\") IDENT+ "." expr -> declare
| IDENT "=" expr -> bind
| expression
?expression: "-" expression -> usub
| expression "+" term -> add
| expression "-" term -> sub
| term
?term: term "*" factor -> mul
| term "/" factor -> div
| factor
?factor: "(" expr ")"
| NUMBER
IDENT: /[^\W0-9λ]/i
NUMBER: /0|[1-9]\d{0,3}/i
%ignore WS
%import common.WS/
ehh, it's small enough it should be no hassle. I can remove stuff if you need
>>> plot("a b c d e f")
apply
var a
apply
var b
apply
var c
apply
var d
apply
var e
var f
should be the other way around
rough sapphire
hm. Lemme mess with it
ok, dumb fix, but
?start: expr
?expr: IDENT -> var
| expr expr_no_apply_recursion -> apply
| ("λ" | "\\") IDENT+ "." expr -> declare
| IDENT "=" expr -> bind
| expression
?expr_no_apply_recursion: IDENT -> var
| ("λ" | "\\") IDENT+ "." expr -> declare
| IDENT "=" expr -> bind
| expression
?expression: "-" expression -> usub
| expression "+" term -> add
| expression "-" term -> sub
| term
?term: term "*" factor -> mul
| term "/" factor -> div
| factor
?factor: "(" expr ")"
| NUMBER
IDENT: /[^\W0-9λ]/i
NUMBER: /0|[1-9]\d{0,3}/i
%ignore WS
%import common.WS
```?I'm not totally sure but I noticed in my thing too that it favors right-recursion if you don't explicitly stop it from doing so
sacred token
hm.. idea
or not
i dont like that, but thanks
@rough sapphire i wonder if there's an option in Lark to change that
rough sapphire
I dunno if it's something intrinsic to LALR or not
try bringing it up in the gitter chat
sullen thorn
Adblock vs ublock - which do I use?
stark prawn
ublock origins
sour shale
Ublock origin
sullen thorn
Ok
im glad they put that warning at the bottom - wouldnt accidentally wanna have to use vim
wild yarrow
:P
glass gorge
@stark drum Hi, it seems your name does not comply with our nickname policy which you agreed to when joining. Could you please change it to something that complies with the policy? https://pythondiscord.com/about/rules#nickname-policy
stark drum
Ok
robust sierra
fack
sour shale
Firefox
worn kite
I use FF as main and Chromium supplementary, mainly for games and heavy stuff like office online sometimes
rough sapphire
FF is nice.
lost knoll
Chrome betrayed me
the 69 update didn’t change the UI for me
I’m just staring at the old triangle tabs
ionic hill
Chrome 
rain spindle
@bleak lintel chromium uses parts of chrome.... no?
worn kite
chromium is the open source base for Chrome, without the google additions
bleak lintel
@rain spindle Google Chrome is built on top of Chromium
rain spindle
Yeah ok
rain spindle
developed and maintained by Google
bleak lintel
fair enough
worn kite
Chrome is by google, Chromium is backed by the Chromium Project
bleak lintel
@rain spindle wait no, chrome is developed and maintained by google
What is Chromium browser? It is an open-source web browser developed and maintained by The Chromium Project.
so yeah basically google chrome is chromium with google spyware bundled in
steel fox
Yay spyware
sand goblet
the new version of chrome actually ties your google login into your browser profile
clearing your cookies doesn't clear out the google cookies either
glass gorge
@stark drum May i ask how that nickname change went?
sand goblet
It didn't, by the looks of it
glass gorge
!hh 352201926726647819 1w
royal lakeBOT
granite lake
lol
sand goblet
@stark drum 
@glass gorge usually better to mention in the command
Kill two birds with one stone
:P
steel fox
hes an elf
worn kite
o_O
steel fox
elf for reference
worn kite
wtf? have reactions been blocked in here now?
weird
I swear, I tried it four times and each time the reaction disappeared immediately, as if deleted by the bot
but it works now
so probably just buggy discord client being buggy
bleak flume
steel fox
were u tryina react to me?
gentle dragon
slate quail
stark prawn
blues best
gentle moss
glues best
stark drum
lmfao
knotty summit
@slate quail I don't get the blockiness of that joke picture
slate quail
@knotty summit blockiness?
knotty summit
his profile pciture in that is made of blocks, hodling a hammer
slate quail
because they're four emojis that don't fit together perfectly
knotty summit
ah, didn't know that, neat
tame terrace
🎩
sour shale
is that Qt Creator
sand goblet
No
sullen thorn
Designer
sand goblet
it's Qt designer
:P
that's where you make your UI if you don't want to do it in code
I prefer to do it in code personally
sullen thorn
Oh
sand goblet
but yeah place one of the layouts and then put your widgets in it
sullen thorn
Does it turn it into code and then u can edit the code?
sullen thorn
Is this like adobe muse kinda?
sand goblet
dunno, I'm not silly enough with my money to buy an adobe product
sullen thorn
I was :/ (although was discounted to £16 a month)
It would’ve been an amazing deal if I actually used the creative cloud apps
knotty summit
@sullen thorn It produces a file that you can load into code and refences the objects in to assign actions to.
I use it to produce those files, and to practice layouts that I might write in code.
somewhere in the far right bar is "objectName" which you can reference to in your python code to handle the object, or add stuff to or whatever
sullen thorn
Oh - ok
sour shale
sullen thorn
Uhhh
Do if u do multiprocessing.Process() on a function, will it return whatever the function returns?
Or does it just return None?
stark prawn
It returns the process
sullen thorn
Oh yeah :/
stark prawn
Waiting for the results immediately to put as return value makes no sense
sullen thorn
Yeah idk what I was thinking - gotta go look on stack how to do pipe thingy now :/
sullen thorn
I don’t
gentle moss
:D
gentle moss
that's the only reason i know
sand goblet
same
sullen thorn
Wym that’s the process?
sand goblet
well basically
in american basketball, your teams are seeded before the season starts
gentle moss
some basketball owner fucking KILLED his team
like basically dropped the whole season
sand goblet
the lowest seeds get the first pick of the players