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granite lake Aug 22, 2018, 9:12 PM

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Lmao

lost hornet Aug 22, 2018, 9:12 PM

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i paid 40 dollars for these emojis

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im damn well going to use them every chance I get

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and if people ask where I got them from then I'll say that I made them and my prices have actually gotten cheaper

granite lake Aug 22, 2018, 9:13 PM

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Lol

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Where you bought them?

lost hornet Aug 22, 2018, 9:14 PM

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~~（ｉ　ｍａｄｅ　ｔｈｅｍ　ｍｙｓｅｌｆ）~~

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well, I'm making emojis now to recuperate my losses

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from buying emojis

granite lake Aug 22, 2018, 9:14 PM

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Agh

lost hornet Aug 22, 2018, 9:15 PM

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You want some emojis?

granite lake Aug 22, 2018, 9:16 PM

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Nah

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I don't have nitro

lost hornet Aug 22, 2018, 9:17 PM

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If you have your own server then you could add them

granite lake Aug 22, 2018, 9:18 PM

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Nah

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It's good

lost hornet Aug 22, 2018, 9:21 PM

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only 2 bucks a pop

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lennyeyebrows

granite lake Aug 22, 2018, 9:22 PM

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I don't have payment cards

lost hornet Aug 22, 2018, 9:27 PM

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send me a toonie in the mail

ionic hill Aug 22, 2018, 9:28 PM

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I'd like a toonie too

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Could go for a coffee at timmies

lost hornet Aug 22, 2018, 9:28 PM

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i just buy two doughnuts whenever im at timmies

ionic hill Aug 22, 2018, 9:29 PM

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hehe where you from Skinny

granite lake Aug 22, 2018, 9:29 PM

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Pokemon world

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Look his pfp

ionic hill Aug 22, 2018, 9:30 PM

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Oops, didn't know Pallet town had Timmies

lost hornet Aug 22, 2018, 9:30 PM

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not pallet town

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a bit south of rustboro

ionic hill Aug 22, 2018, 9:30 PM

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thinkmon

lost hornet Aug 22, 2018, 9:37 PM

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actually im from alberta

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you?

gentle moss Aug 22, 2018, 9:37 PM

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oh i keep my clothes on

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but thanks for taking interest

ionic hill Aug 22, 2018, 9:38 PM

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Originally from New Brunswick but I'm in Toronto now finger_gun

lost hornet Aug 22, 2018, 9:45 PM

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neat

lost hornet Aug 22, 2018, 10:03 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHhimTlvWTI

YouTube

CollegeHumor

Yes or No Game Show (with Regis Philbin)

NEWEST JAKE AND AMIR http://bit.ly/176loO LIKE us on: http://www.facebook.com/collegehumor CollegeHumor, Regis Philbin, and Jewel boil "Who Wants To Be a Mil...

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gentle moss Aug 22, 2018, 10:03 PM

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📎 IMG_20180822_230250.jpg

lost hornet Aug 22, 2018, 10:03 PM

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@worn kite @tough garnet

gentle moss Aug 22, 2018, 10:03 PM

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Oh god

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You're welcome

worn kite Aug 22, 2018, 10:04 PM

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hm?

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GWpingSock

sour shale Aug 22, 2018, 10:08 PM

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Nice job bisk

steel fox Aug 22, 2018, 10:29 PM

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Skinny do you accept shrute bucks

wild yarrow Aug 22, 2018, 10:30 PM

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what are.... schrute bucks?

steel fox Aug 22, 2018, 11:06 PM

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They’re like Stanley nickels

wild yarrow Aug 22, 2018, 11:22 PM

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huh

wild yarrow Aug 22, 2018, 11:54 PM

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oh Clay, i am building an mtg search cog because fuck it, i can't keep my projects straight and it's cool

tulip palm Aug 23, 2018, 12:08 AM

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this is mildly annoying. zsh only substitutes ~ for my home directory when i'm in the directory itself, but not any subdirectories.

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cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 12:29 AM

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is that check in your powerline indicative of command success/failure?

lone otter Aug 23, 2018, 12:39 AM

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yep

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also the directory element is probably configurable

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If not, you should be able to edit the .zsh-theme and modify the prompt element

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iirc the themes are written in bash

tulip palm Aug 23, 2018, 12:43 AM

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that's what i'm doing

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now it's not even marking my home as ~

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but now i'm just getting it to display the current directory

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 1:25 AM

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hot it works

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wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 2:23 AM

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hmm

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 2:35 AM

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next level would be to add custom emotes for the mana cost

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i dont play mtg though so there may be a ton to add for all I know

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 2:37 AM

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so emotes can't be put in an embed.... far as i know

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but yes

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that was on my list of things to do

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i have the symbol urls for them and the 0 - 9 and X and T symbols

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so i will try to find a way

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 2:38 AM

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ah yeah only emojis right, not emotes?

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 2:38 AM

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the thing is there are things like the 1 colorless symbol now that came from eldrazi, and there's phyrexian mana

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 2:38 AM

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that's the issue?

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 2:38 AM

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and hybrids

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and energy

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so it's a LOT

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no emojis yeah

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 2:38 AM

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you mean emotes 🤔

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emojis = unicode

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 2:39 AM

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oh

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yeah

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i can see if there are emojis for those

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idk

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i would be surprised

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 2:40 AM

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maybe something close enough

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 2:40 AM

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i will look around

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 2:40 AM

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waiit

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📎 unknown.png

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those circles are emotes not emojis

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so it is possible

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 2:41 AM

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OH

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i could probably do something like that

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 2:41 AM

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I think you have to use them like this in embeds !hyperlemon

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so they show up

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idk try it out I haven't messed with embeds in a while so I forget these things

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 2:42 AM

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i'll give it a go after dinner :D

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 2:42 AM

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👍🏻

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 2:42 AM

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cause i can totally pull those icons off of the wizards site

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 2:42 AM

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yeah you just need to make them into emotes

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they cant be urls to images

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 2:42 AM

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yup

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 2:43 AM

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what @royal lake has is a separate server just for the emotes

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so it doesnt clog up this server

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 2:43 AM

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wait wait wait

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https://github.com/rstacruz/slack-emoji-magic

GitHub

rstacruz/slack-emoji-magic

slack-emoji-magic - Magic: the Gathering emojis

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that makes sense

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 2:43 AM

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how convenient

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 2:44 AM

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yeah

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 2:44 AM

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I like the design on those

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never really looked at mtg cards before

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 2:46 AM

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mtg, especially now, is a much prettier and nice looking card game. also out of the card games i have played its mechanics are 👌 out of 10

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so it looks like <emoji_name:emoji_id> like you posted.... cool

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 2:54 AM

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Maybe it only works in the description, not in fields?

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 2:54 AM

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idk haven't tested yet

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i will in a bit tho

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 2:54 AM

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oh I thought you were saying that it didnt work

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and showed up as the bracket stuff

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 2:55 AM

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nah, just thinking out loud :P

tame pier Aug 23, 2018, 4:26 AM

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Why are so many bots made by fucking weebs?

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 4:27 AM

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i'm not a weeb

tame pier Aug 23, 2018, 4:29 AM

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Are you sure?

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omg, there's an astolfo bot: https://discordbots.org/bot/astolfo

Discord Bot List

Astolfo

A high quality music, listen.moe, radio, chat bot, games, casino, anime, mod bot that takes care of all the essentials!

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 4:30 AM

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GWzigAYAYA

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I guess discord appeals to weebs

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havent you seen their twitter

tame pier Aug 23, 2018, 4:30 AM

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no

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 4:31 AM

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https://twitter.com/discordapp/status/913526912798085125

Discord (@discordapp)

@IllusiveRemedy weeb is my final form https://t.co/aGTozRDSfb

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https://twitter.com/discordapp/status/943639734198431745?lang=en

Discord (@discordapp)

@Zeryther

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tame pier Aug 23, 2018, 4:31 AM

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lmao

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 4:32 AM

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there was a worse one

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but I cant find it 😡

tame pier Aug 23, 2018, 4:33 AM

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jesus they're active

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 4:35 AM

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https://twitter.com/discordapp/status/806586093298663429

Discord (@discordapp)

@Shiidere >/////< a-as long as you don't mind t-that my palms are s-sweaty

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/291284109232308226/481115171167928321/image0.jpg

tame pier Aug 23, 2018, 4:36 AM

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lol

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Well, it seems that this astolfo bot is coded in Kotlin...huh

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 4:36 AM

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didnt know rythm was coded in Java

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seems like Java and JS are the most popular langs

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at least for the big bots

tame pier Aug 23, 2018, 4:38 AM

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Yeah

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Java makes sense, as it's good for big complex server applications

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JavaScript...I haven't used enough to say, but I've heard enough to say

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 4:39 AM

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Eris is surprisingly popular too

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oh eris is just js

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i thought it was elixir

tame pier Aug 23, 2018, 4:40 AM

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lol

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Surprise!

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It's JavaScript!

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 4:45 AM

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oof https://github.com/AznStevy/owo/blob/develop/cogs/osu.py

GitHub

AznStevy/owo

owo!

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4k lines

tame pier Aug 23, 2018, 4:46 AM

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Crikey

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This is why we split things into files

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32 lines of imports

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 4:47 AM

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LOL

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just noticed

tame pier Aug 23, 2018, 4:47 AM

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in no particular order

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 4:47 AM

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worst part is

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yes

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exactly

tame pier Aug 23, 2018, 4:47 AM

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Though to be fair, I'm bad at that too

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 4:47 AM

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when you have comments like this ` # ---------------------------- Settings ------------------------------------

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you know your file is too long

tame pier Aug 23, 2018, 4:47 AM

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At least I split out libraries / local modules / external packages

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yeahhhhhh

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Bringing me back to C-code

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 4:48 AM

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brings me back to my Java days as a kid

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in case you missed it I shared my 39k line file I worked with

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most not written by me but still

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https://pastebin.com/ENpK9rqU

Pastebin

[Java] Client.java - Pastebin.com

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my browser tab hangs just loading that page

tame pier Aug 23, 2018, 4:54 AM

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omg

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2.1gb of memory

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2.4

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it loaded

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but if i scroll CPU spikes

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....why Mark, why

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 4:57 AM

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thanks to @solar zealot for their help :D

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it works

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i might fiddle with the icon sizes but the code works :D

tame pier Aug 23, 2018, 5:07 AM

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Nice

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 5:08 AM

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c:

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 5:17 AM

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is the embed colour based on rarity?

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or on what

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 5:17 AM

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on the mana cost

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or rather the card's color

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 5:17 AM

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either way its a nice touch

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 5:17 AM

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so like if a card has no mana cost but claims it is blue then....

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thank you

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but yeah, the api lets you get the set of colors, if it's None it does the colorless grey, otherwise it does the card backing color for the color, if it's multi it's gold even for hybrids that don't have the gold back

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i don't think you can do gradients, plus the set of cards with hybrid background is non trivial

cerulean basin Aug 23, 2018, 5:19 AM

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yeah limited to 1 solid colour

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 5:20 AM

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welp, then i will stick to the gold :D

versed jackal Aug 23, 2018, 6:50 AM

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@edgy pier silicon valley fan i see

oak viper Aug 23, 2018, 6:17 PM

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@feral jetty

feral jetty Aug 23, 2018, 6:17 PM

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local &| = 1;

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what does this mean

oak viper Aug 23, 2018, 6:18 PM

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Ah shit, punctuation... If I had my oreilly perl cheatsheet at hand I would he able to reply, I forgot most of it. Hang on

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Are you sure it's an & not a $?

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If it was $| = nonzero, you'd be setting the buffer to autoflush on whatever i/o context it's in

feral jetty Aug 23, 2018, 6:24 PM

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it's $ 🤦

oak viper Aug 23, 2018, 6:24 PM

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It looks like setting the reference of that variable (a pipe?) to 1 and not much else to me, otherwise

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Ah, I thought so

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It's listed in perlvar, my friend

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if you use English; then it's also called $OUTPUT_AUTOFLUSH

feral jetty Aug 23, 2018, 6:26 PM

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what? use english?

oak viper Aug 23, 2018, 6:26 PM

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It gives long constant names to punctuation variables like that

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https://perldoc.perl.org/perlvar.html
Just ctrl+f in here, both use English and OUTPUT_AUTOFLUSH

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use English; is one of the ways to make coding in perl less cancerous

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To think I'd be helping someone in perl after all this time 😂

feral jetty Aug 23, 2018, 6:29 PM

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to think i'd be askiing someone in perl after all this time

oak viper Aug 23, 2018, 6:30 PM

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Hahah

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I feel you bro

feral jetty Aug 23, 2018, 6:30 PM

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not a bro

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😄

oak viper Aug 23, 2018, 6:34 PM

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Bro-ness transcends gender!

feral jetty Aug 23, 2018, 6:35 PM

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k bro 😉

oak viper Aug 23, 2018, 6:35 PM

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Worked 2 years in perl

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Mojolicious

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It was fun but I wouldn't repeat

feral jetty Aug 23, 2018, 6:35 PM

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what did you write in it?

oak viper Aug 23, 2018, 6:36 PM

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A browser game lmao

feral jetty Aug 23, 2018, 6:36 PM

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i've seen it used to write test cases

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oh

oak viper Aug 23, 2018, 6:36 PM

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I'm serious, this company was using perl rather than php to make a site

feral jetty Aug 23, 2018, 6:36 PM

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2 years?!

oak viper Aug 23, 2018, 6:36 PM

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Well, we made several

feral jetty Aug 23, 2018, 6:36 PM

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omg 🙄 🤦

oak viper Aug 23, 2018, 6:37 PM

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Still it was fun

feral jetty Aug 23, 2018, 6:37 PM

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and why not js instead of php?

oak viper Aug 23, 2018, 6:37 PM

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Mojolicious is actually pretty well done

feral jetty Aug 23, 2018, 6:37 PM

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what's that

oak viper Aug 23, 2018, 6:38 PM

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Web framework

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Think a shittier Django i guess

feral jetty Aug 23, 2018, 6:39 PM

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ahaha i first used google translate and got no translation so i was like whaaat?!

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i see!

oak viper Aug 23, 2018, 6:39 PM

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Lmao Hahah

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It's the de facto web framework for perl

feral jetty Aug 23, 2018, 6:40 PM

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didn't know perl could be used in web too

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and what about tests?

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they were written again in perl?

oak viper Aug 23, 2018, 6:40 PM

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I think so ya

feral jetty Aug 23, 2018, 6:41 PM

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we use it too

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for tests

oak viper Aug 23, 2018, 6:42 PM

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Now I'm using python for everything 😁

feral jetty Aug 23, 2018, 6:42 PM

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so i always saw local $| = 1; and didn't understand the meaning

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python is good

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do you use unittest?

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bro? @oak viper

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ok sorry imma sleep now, it's late

sand goblet Aug 23, 2018, 8:35 PM

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https://imgur.com/1e6obDr.jpg

Imgur

Wizard

wraith umbra Aug 23, 2018, 8:48 PM

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lol

tulip palm Aug 23, 2018, 10:06 PM

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haha

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that's a good one

wild yarrow Aug 23, 2018, 10:36 PM

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heh

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that’s good

versed jackal Aug 23, 2018, 11:51 PM

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lmfao

mossy matrix Aug 24, 2018, 3:33 AM

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The crickets outside are chirping sporadically and it’s making it hard to sleep

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 3:34 AM

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sleep harder then :^)

lost hornet Aug 24, 2018, 3:58 AM

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what's ligma

cerulean basin Aug 24, 2018, 3:59 AM

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:01 AM

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you alright there mark?

tame pier Aug 24, 2018, 4:02 AM

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?

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:02 AM

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too much THC?

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:02 AM

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i read that as "too much THICC"

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:02 AM

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hahaha

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thicc 👌

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:03 AM

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thc 👌

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:04 AM

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yeah boi!

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also CBD edibles are p great

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good for shit like meetings or dealing with sales managers

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:05 AM

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wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:05 AM

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O.O

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:05 AM

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thank you linux very cool

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:06 AM

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huh

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:06 AM

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have no idea

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just doing a stress test with s-tui

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:06 AM

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idk, i've never seen something like that before

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hmm

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:10 AM

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as a general guideline i always add 40 degrees to what my temps say

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:10 AM

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that's a lot

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:10 AM

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stock cooler lmao

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:10 AM

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oh

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:10 AM

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will probably get a better cooler soon though

tame pier Aug 24, 2018, 4:11 AM

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Your temperature sensor is faulty...

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:11 AM

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no shit :^)

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:11 AM

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i made a little thing that shows mine :D

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is it amd?

tame pier Aug 24, 2018, 4:11 AM

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What is that, a temperature for ants?

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:11 AM

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looks like something you could embed on a 2004 webpage

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:11 AM

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i had issues with accuracy on amd

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it is temperature for ants

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:11 AM

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yes it's AMD

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:11 AM

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:D

cerulean basin Aug 24, 2018, 4:11 AM

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GWfroggyPeepoDetective

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:11 AM

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ah ok

cerulean basin Aug 24, 2018, 4:11 AM

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i find any excuse to use that emote

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:11 AM

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yeah AMD sensors are often not read properly

cerulean basin Aug 24, 2018, 4:12 AM

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i love it

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:12 AM

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it's good

cerulean basin Aug 24, 2018, 4:12 AM

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do you guys always have temps and other pc stats open

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:12 AM

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i like to keep cpu mem and temps open, just because

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makes me feel smart

cerulean basin Aug 24, 2018, 4:13 AM

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If so, I never understood the point of that

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:13 AM

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:P

cerulean basin Aug 24, 2018, 4:13 AM

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I guess I have a bunch of free space on my desktop

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I could do it to

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and itd save me time on the very rare occasion I actually need to know those stats

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:13 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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better than desktop icons

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:14 AM

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htop

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good

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:14 AM

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right?

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i love htop

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:14 AM

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still prefer s-tui though

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:14 AM

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haven't seen it, what does it do?

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:14 AM

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wow thank you scrot, loving the lines

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:15 AM

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looks cool

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i like it

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:15 AM

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looks good in a tty too

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:15 AM

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c:

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nice

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:16 AM

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has a built-in stress test

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:16 AM

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nice

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that's p cool

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 4:17 AM

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can be configured

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 4:17 AM

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cool

cerulean basin Aug 24, 2018, 4:41 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/99ozyh/psa_someone_is_scraping_sites_such_as_github_for/

r/discordapp - PSA: Someone is scraping sites such as GitHub for b...

42 votes and 7 comments so far on Reddit

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GWcorbinMonkaGIGA

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it's worrying how often people make this mistake

odd thorn Aug 24, 2018, 4:43 AM

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Probably has something to do with Discord bots being an obvious first project-type thing. If a newbie doesn't know how to work Git, it's easy for them to upload it by accident, even if they know the tokens are important.

tame pier Aug 24, 2018, 4:53 AM

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Scraping for API keys is one of the first steps in a Red Team engagement, and unfortunately, those same tools are abused by skiddies to pull shit like this because they're brats with mental issues.

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https://github.com/dxa4481/truffleHog

GitHub

dxa4481/truffleHog

truffleHog - Searches through git repositories for high entropy strings and secrets, digging deep into commit history

glass gorge Aug 24, 2018, 4:54 AM

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ugh

tame pier Aug 24, 2018, 4:54 AM

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Make a JSON file with a bunch of stuff normally associated with discord bots, then you're off to the races

glass gorge Aug 24, 2018, 4:54 AM

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thinkies

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I like it

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Maybe i should generate a bunch of tokens

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and hide em in my code

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(reset em ofc)

tame pier Aug 24, 2018, 4:55 AM

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Lmao yes please

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Honey Repos

glass gorge Aug 24, 2018, 4:55 AM

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c:

tame pier Aug 24, 2018, 4:55 AM

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Mwuahaha

glass gorge Aug 24, 2018, 4:55 AM

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Ill just hide a bunch of api keys as well

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and make sure to burry the commit

steel fox Aug 24, 2018, 4:55 AM

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known join me in my chamber

glass gorge Aug 24, 2018, 4:55 AM

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remove em now and then to change it up

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I like it

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Im off to uni 👋🏾

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 5:42 AM

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Have fun

oak viper Aug 24, 2018, 6:18 AM

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@wild yarrow \[T]/

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 6:35 AM

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hello

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praise the sun

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oh lizard man their voice actor is also a man, but in game it does not seem that way. it's 👌

tame pier Aug 24, 2018, 7:39 AM

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?

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Oh

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You remembered my alter ego

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Lol nice

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Even better that way 👌

wild yarrow Aug 24, 2018, 8:54 AM

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:D

viral parrot Aug 24, 2018, 9:16 AM

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@wheat stirrup like in this channel 😄

glass gorge Aug 24, 2018, 9:17 AM

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🚜

sand goblet Aug 24, 2018, 11:04 AM

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https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/08/24/google-france-shuts-google-page-asks-users-follow-twitter-facebook-instead/

Android Police

Google France shuts down its Google+ page, asks users to follow it...

No social network has been as equally loved and hated as Google+. Those who use it appreciate the tight community and fruitful discussions, those who don't... by Rita El Khoury in Google, News, Videos

robust sierra Aug 24, 2018, 11:32 AM

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Rest in potatoe G+

glass gorge Aug 24, 2018, 12:53 PM

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Whos ready for web design.. god these books were heavy to carry home CoconaSweat

📎 JPEG_20180824_145321.jpg

sour shale Aug 24, 2018, 12:54 PM

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nic

glass gorge Aug 24, 2018, 12:55 PM

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And thats only parts of the syllabus for one course.

sand goblet Aug 24, 2018, 12:56 PM

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Those look expensive

sour shale Aug 24, 2018, 12:56 PM

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hopefully library 😄

glass gorge Aug 24, 2018, 12:57 PM

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€130 or so

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1300 nok to be precise

sour shale Aug 24, 2018, 12:58 PM

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that's a lot 😮

glass gorge Aug 24, 2018, 12:58 PM

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Ill hopefully be able to resell em next tear though

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I still have 2 more courses to buy the syllabus for

sour shale Aug 24, 2018, 12:59 PM

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ye if u can resell u can save a lot

glass gorge Aug 24, 2018, 12:59 PM

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Yup

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Think the remaining books total to another €100

robust sierra Aug 24, 2018, 1:16 PM

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where are you from @glass gorge ?

glass gorge Aug 24, 2018, 1:16 PM

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Norway

granite lake Aug 24, 2018, 1:17 PM

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No way

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glass gorge Aug 24, 2018, 1:23 PM

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🚪 👈🏾 AngryDog

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So i connected with like 20 people on linkedin, (up to 50), and in a day appeared in 15 searches thonk

glass gorge Aug 24, 2018, 1:50 PM

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📎 JPEG_20180824_155031.jpg

sour shale Aug 24, 2018, 1:51 PM

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haha

glass gorge Aug 24, 2018, 3:12 PM

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I was tasked to draw an object I possessed, so that someone would be able to guess what it was... whelp, any takers?

📎 JPEG_20180824_171204.jpg

rough sapphire Aug 24, 2018, 3:13 PM

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a book?

lone otter Aug 24, 2018, 3:14 PM

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phone case?

sour shale Aug 24, 2018, 3:14 PM

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wallet

glass gorge Aug 24, 2018, 3:16 PM

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Woo

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My wallet

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Guess im not that bad at drawing

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For reference

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sour shale Aug 24, 2018, 3:19 PM

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takes wallet

glass gorge Aug 24, 2018, 3:22 PM

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:(

violet wadi Aug 24, 2018, 10:14 PM

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Could we get one of these bois terning1 with zero eyes so well have an emote for 1?

tulip palm Aug 24, 2018, 11:28 PM

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terningkast starts at 0

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 12:12 AM

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SSDs have come so far in 5 years 😩

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sour shale Aug 25, 2018, 12:13 AM

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you're comparing PCIe to SATA 3 though

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we did have PCIe drives 5 years ago

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 12:13 AM

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yeah I know

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but these drives are the same price

sour shale Aug 25, 2018, 12:14 AM

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ye

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nice

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 12:40 AM

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🤔 so I think my mobo supports that ssd

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it just needs 1 pcie 3 x4 lane

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z97 has 8 lanes total

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idk how many the SATA and USB ports use though

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my gpu should be using the cpu's 16 lanes

floral widget Aug 25, 2018, 1:23 AM

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@cerulean basin that's an M.2 SSD, you'll need an M.2 port/slot on your motherboard

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:24 AM

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NVME will not work over regular SATA or SATA6

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it needs an M.2 PCI connector which you'll need to look up if your motherboard actually has one

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most motherboards after the year 2015 do have one but you should confirm before investing money into a very expensive storage medium

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:26 AM

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i know

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:26 AM

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also most motherboards have pci splitters, while cpu's have limited PCI lanes, a motherboard can expand that number by using very weird and confusing tech 👀

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:26 AM

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m2 ssds over pcie use pcie lanes

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i have a mobo with an m2 slot

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:27 AM

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alright ye

floral widget Aug 25, 2018, 1:27 AM

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nice

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:27 AM

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https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-Z97X-UD5H-rev-10#sp

GIGABYTE

GA-Z97X-UD5H (rev. 1.0) | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

Supports 4th and 5th Generation Intel® Core™ processors
Extreme multi graphics support
Precise digital CPU power design
SATA Express support for 10 Gb/s data transfer
M.2 for SSDs drives with up to 10 Gb/s data transfer
Killer™ E2200 and Intel gaming networking
Realtek A...

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:27 AM

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970 pro 1tb is a fucking menace on your wallet though

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:27 AM

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nah

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450 bucks isnt bad

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:27 AM

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I'm on a z270 GPC

floral widget Aug 25, 2018, 1:28 AM

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we're all developers, so we should be all loaded amirite

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GWeeeChiyoDead

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:28 AM

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i am unemployed I just have some savings

floral widget Aug 25, 2018, 1:28 AM

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all of those people that told me I'm in for money when I graduate

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:28 AM

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lmao I prefer regular SSDs cause of the HUGE price difference

floral widget Aug 25, 2018, 1:28 AM

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unemployed for six months after graduation

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when I did get a job, only have savings because I live with my parents

lost hornet Aug 25, 2018, 1:29 AM

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NVME has only marginal performance difference iirc

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:30 AM

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i dont think my current ssd is nvme

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i wouldnt say these benchmarks are marginal

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463035241142026251/482703799560175617/unknown.png

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:30 AM

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@lost hornet

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cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:31 AM

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actually to be fair, that is also pcie vs sata

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:31 AM

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regular ssds don't have a pci medium

lost hornet Aug 25, 2018, 1:31 AM

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This isn't bottle-necked by a sata?

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:31 AM

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well It kind of is cause sata6 doesn't really go past .5gb/s

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:32 AM

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I think it is bottlenecked by sata

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sata is like 600 mb/s

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:32 AM

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but you're paying a lot for the M.2 NVME technology

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:32 AM

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6 gigabit apparently converts to 600 megabytes

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:33 AM

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the chips might actually be really comparable

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~~gigabit and gigabyte are different~~

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actually http://linuxgizmos.com/sata-3-2-upgrade-defines-fast-tiny-ssd-devices/

LinuxGizmos.com

Eric Brown

SATA 3.2 heralds tiny but very speedy SSDs

The newly ratified SATA 3.2 spec adds SATA Express, based on ever-faster PCIe lanes, and defines single-chip microSSDs and tiny, but very speedy, SSD cards.

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but this is over pci lanes

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I don't think there will be any new sata specific connectors after 3.0

lost hornet Aug 25, 2018, 1:35 AM

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Wouldn't buying multiple SSDs and running them in raid be a more economic option?

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:35 AM

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it would

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:35 AM

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doesnt that use more pcie lanes though

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which are precious for me at least

lost hornet Aug 25, 2018, 1:35 AM

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yeah

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:35 AM

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I have 16 + 8

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16 already used by my gpu

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:36 AM

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but if you want comparable speeds to 3.2 on sata 3.0 you'd need like 16 separate ssds

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:36 AM

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and apparently sata drives plus usb use up some of the other 8

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:36 AM

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considering speeds go up weirdly with raid

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2 drives gives just under double

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but adding a third doesn't give 3x performance

lost hornet Aug 25, 2018, 1:37 AM

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diminishing returns?

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:37 AM

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and that way you'd need a specific RAID controller to manage the excess sata cables cause you don't have that many connectors on your motherboard

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also depends on the raid version you're using

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RAID 0 has a lot of speed and efficiency loss iirc

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I would say RAID 4 or 5 are the most beneficial to you as a user cause of the parity information

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but RAID 0 would be the fastest

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I might disregard my hackintosh installation and go for a raid array, even though it's unsafe

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:43 AM

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Generally I dont think I'll use raid

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maybe if I get my backup situation worked out I'll raid that

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but that might be too expensive

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:45 AM

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I just use google drive backup and sync for backing up important stuff 👀

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all my important data is backed up to the cloud

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:46 AM

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I think I'd like to have both physical and cloud backups

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:46 AM

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that's fair

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:46 AM

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i havent looked into the logistics and costs of everything

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so not sure

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:47 AM

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I do have a NAS at home but I don't think it's online right now

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I'm gonna go see if I can buy a big backup drive for it and back up my stuff on there

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@cerulean basin I have a g suite account for my business which gives me a terabyte of cloud storage for 10$/m

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and team drives which is pretty nice

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:48 AM

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idk if 1 tb is enough for me

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probably

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Im not sure what I need to back up

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:49 AM

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I only back up my user folder

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:49 AM

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right now I just manually do it once in a while

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pretty shit system

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:49 AM

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rippu

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:49 AM

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dont feel like making it better cause I plan to switch to linux and buy new drives etc anyway

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:49 AM

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I synchronize my user folder to the cloud which backs up Documents, Videos, Music etc

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so most of the important stuff

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:49 AM

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hmm, you back up music?

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:50 AM

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I don't really need program files and data backed up

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I make music so I backup my projects, sample packs etc

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:50 AM

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Ah ok thats different

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:50 AM

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and full songs cause some projects do work off them

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:50 AM

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to be fair it would suck ass if I lost my music

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I download all my music as files

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i dont stream it

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:50 AM

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I don't backup spotify cache or anything

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actually let me check that

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👀

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:51 AM

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well if you have spotify why back it up

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its all tied to your account no?

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:51 AM

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no that's what I'm saying

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:51 AM

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so your library is saved and all your music can be easily retrieved from spotify servers

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:51 AM

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I don't backup my spotify

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cause that's useless

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:51 AM

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yeah

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:51 AM

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cause it's all on my account

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:51 AM

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thats what I am saying too

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idk why youd make that point though

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it seems obvious

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:52 AM

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but I do backup my mp3s and wavs and oggs and other stuff I use for my music that I make

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:52 AM

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All my music is on one drive without backups

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280 gigs

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idk if its worth backing up

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maybe at least to physical storage cause its cheaper

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:53 AM

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Mark Today at 03:49hmm, you back up music?Robin Today at 03:50I make music so I backup my projects, sample packs etc.``````I don't backup spotify cache or anything

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:54 AM

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yeah I thought you already answered the question

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:54 AM

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idk it seemed logical to point it out to me

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:54 AM

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i thought it was in response to me saying i dont stream my music

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:54 AM

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redundancy is relative

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anyway I think I'm gonna be mirroring my entire PC to a local network RAID5 array with 4 2tb drives

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which would give me 6TB of usable space and 2TB of parity space

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and then also cloud backup my user folder

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it'll be an investment for sure

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but it gives me security

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:57 AM

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interesting

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i considered something like that but it sounds overkill

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i dont need to mirror everything

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:58 AM

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if my pc fails

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I would like to be able to quickly continue off anything I was working on

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so it makes sense to mirror the programdata directory as well

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so I wouldn't need to reinstall shit

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:58 AM

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actually thats a good point

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if my main partition ends up being 1tb thats not bad in terms of drive costs

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:59 AM

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if I'm right about it, if you mirror the windows directory correctly you could actually run windows off a vm on the NAS itself

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 1:59 AM

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I could do raid 5 too

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is is possible to partition drives and use 1 parition for raid on each drive?

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or is that a bad idea 🤔

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 1:59 AM

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performance would be horrible but if you needed to quickly fix them 🤷

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels#RAID_5

Standard RAID levels

In computer storage, the standard RAID levels comprise a basic set of RAID (redundant array of independent disks) configurations that employ the techniques of striping, mirroring, or parity to create large reliable data stores from multiple general-purpose computer hard disk ...

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raid 5 does exactly what you're saying

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it has the parity blocks on separate drives so if a drive fails, the chance of you losing your data is smaller

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:01 AM

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I meant that I don

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:01 AM

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in raid 4 one of the physical drives is used specifically for parity storage

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:01 AM

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so it doesnt use up the whole drive?

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:01 AM

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I think raiding will consume the entire drive, I'm not sure if you can raid volumes

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:02 AM

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the thing is, I'd like to use the same drives for mirroring my main drive and for backups of my other HDs

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:02 AM

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there is a thing called nested raid

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so it might actually work with volumes

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:02 AM

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sounds complicated

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:02 AM

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lmao i'm just reading this now

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:03 AM

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if it was possible, it sounds more economic to buy less drives with more storage

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well, when we're talking about low terabytes

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:03 AM

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so how many drives are you planning on?

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minimum of 3 with raid 4 or 5

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:03 AM

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probably just 3 yeah

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I think it'd be nice to RAID my back ups

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but the idea of mirroring my main drive sounds nice too

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so I wonder if it's possible to use same drives for both functions

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and even then that begs the question of if that is a good idea, regardless of if its possible

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So I'd need 3 1TB drives just to cover mirroring my main drive. Then I'd probably want 3 or 4TB for my backups. Buying 3 4TB drives for $120 each is more economic than 3 1TB drives for $63 each and 3 3TB drives for $108 each

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:13 AM

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so you're talking about a RAID1 that mirrors a RAID0 into another RAID0?

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that's nested

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and you can do that with just 2 drives

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you probably mean something like this

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which is possible

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:22 AM

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I don't think so. I don't need RAID 0

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:22 AM

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but not the safest in terms of a single drive failure

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this is raid5 represented

📎 675px-RAID_5.png

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but the blocks are data blocks not volumes

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:24 AM

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yeah

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:24 AM

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I don't actually know if it's possible to just volume the raid5 array

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you'll have to try that yourself

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if it doesn't work you can always just use the nested RAID0+1

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nested_RAID_levels#RAID_01_(RAID_0+1)

Nested RAID levels

Nested RAID levels, also known as hybrid RAID, combine two or more of the standard RAID levels (where "RAID" stands for "redundant array of independent disks") to gain performance, additional redundancy or both, as a result of combining properties of different standard RAID l...

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:28 AM

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having trouble wrapping my head around 0+1

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:28 AM

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📎 1000px-RAID_01.png

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:28 AM

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not sure why I would want that

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for my situation

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:29 AM

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actually 1 sec

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so you have 3 drives

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all of which are split into two volumes

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one active

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one backup

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then you raid0 the active ones into a single raid volume

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and do the same for the backup one

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:30 AM

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why raid 0?

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:30 AM

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and then you raid1 both raid0 volumes

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:30 AM

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raid 0 doesnt mirror it

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i want a mirror of my active drive

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:31 AM

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why are you using multiple volumes on separate drives?

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do you want them separated or as one raid volume

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:31 AM

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Heres my current situation

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:32 AM

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I assumed you wanted to raid0 the active volumes to combine storage space and increase r/w speeds

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:32 AM

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No I dont care about increasing r/w speeds at all

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I will have an nvme ssd it will be good enough

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and i dont care about the HDs since its just bulk data like music and films

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dont need speed for those

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:32 AM

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okay then there's no need to raid0, just partition the drive and raid1 the 2 partitions

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:33 AM

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so that is what I was asking all along

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:33 AM

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and do the same on all your HDs

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:33 AM

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if I can have two partions on one drive

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each one for a diff raid

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:33 AM

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one sec

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I'm gonna just try that rn on my own storage hd

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:34 AM

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yeah I dont have any means to try that right now

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or I would

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:34 AM

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you can literally do that software wise

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RAID0 requires no raid controllers or external tools

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:34 AM

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but all my drives are already in use

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:35 AM

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diskmgmt.exe

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you can shrink an active volume

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:35 AM

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yeah I dont want to do that though cause I cant undo that later

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iirc

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:35 AM

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I'm just defragmenting this 4tb drive now to speed up the process

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you can shrink a volume

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and extend

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so if you just try the raid1 right now

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you can unraid later

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:36 AM

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by that I meant

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:36 AM

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delete the mirrored volume

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:36 AM

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it has to become a dynamic volume

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:36 AM

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and extend the active one

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:36 AM

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and once its dynamic theres no going back

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:36 AM

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hmm

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:36 AM

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tbh im not sure if I care about that

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but i remember i did that a while ago

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and for some reason wanted it to be basic again

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but couldnt do it

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:37 AM

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hmm

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:38 AM

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I don't plan on having any of my drives in my pc being in raid

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just the ones in a nas or wherever

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:38 AM

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ah alright

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:38 AM

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actually can I do raid 1 over nas?

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like main drive is in pc

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but raid 1 in nas

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:38 AM

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raid over ethernet is not possible

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:38 AM

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rip

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:38 AM

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it has to be plugged into the same controller

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eg your motherboard

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:39 AM

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whats the bottleneck of raid 1?

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:39 AM

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there are programs that are like backup and sync that just sync and mirror a selected root folder to a network drive

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:39 AM

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yeah I could do that too

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anyway if I have an 970 Evo as my main drive and RAID 1 that with a HD, would that bottleneck the speed to that of the slowest drive i.e. the HD

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:40 AM

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I think the bottleneck of raid1 would be the write speed of the parity(mirror) drive

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:41 AM

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yeah so RAID 1 isn't really an option

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:41 AM

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so if you have the 970 EVO as active I think it would be slowed down to the HD speed but I'm not entirely sure

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:41 AM

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i wouldnt buy two 970 evos just for raid lol

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probably the backup of root to the nas is fine

granite lake Aug 25, 2018, 2:41 AM

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Woah this conversation is still woke

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:42 AM

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raid1 read speeds would be SSD + HD - raidloss

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writing would be slowed down to hd speed

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but reading would be faster than the ssd

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:42 AM

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that actually makes sense

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:42 AM

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cause it can read from both disks at the same time

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:42 AM

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intuitively

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:43 AM

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so if you want raid1 with ssd speed you'd need to back up to an ssd

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I'm just learning about this stuff right now as well btw

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:43 AM

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well you seem to have an aptitude for this kind of stuff

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unlike myself

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:44 AM

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rip

granite lake Aug 25, 2018, 2:44 AM

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Robin, can I interrupt ?

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:44 AM

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of course

granite lake Aug 25, 2018, 2:44 AM

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Hows your pentesting progress ?

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:44 AM

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different robin

granite lake Aug 25, 2018, 2:44 AM

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Oops

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Lol

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:44 AM

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that's ok

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i just joined today

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👋

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:44 AM

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welcome 😃

granite lake Aug 25, 2018, 2:44 AM

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GWmythiMonkaT

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:47 AM

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anyway, RAID1 would be most effective if you need to mirror your entire storage, while RAID 5 would combine 2 of the drives (and grab a portion of the parity drive) so to increase read AND write over the max r/w of the fastest drive in the array and using the parity drive as a means of calculating the lost data (extrapolating) using the still alive drive1 and the parity stuff it had stored on the drive

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so RAID1 is a 1:1 backup

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RAID5 is increasing speed and storage while backing up blocks of data and in case of drive failure being able to calculate and extrapolate lost data

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:48 AM

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hmm I originally planned raid 5

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but i dont care about speeds for my backups

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but raid 5 increases storage too 🤔

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:49 AM

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RAID1 would always work with an even number of volumes, if you have an odd number of drives you'd need to partition one of them or you'd need to raid0 at least two of them.
RAID5 works regardless of the amount of drives with a minimum of 3

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I think you can cheat and partition one drive into 2 volumes so you can get 3 volumes with 2 drives but that's not the safest in terms of drive failure

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:50 AM

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I think raid 5 is better for me

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:50 AM

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cause raid5 cycles the parity volume per block

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:50 AM

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cause of increased storage

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:51 AM

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if you want the parity blocks to always be in 1 specific volume you'd want raid4

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:51 AM

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hmm so if I have 3 4TB drives in raid 0

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that should give me a total of 7.92 TB of storage according to wikipedia

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sorry not raid 0

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raid 5

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:52 AM

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3 drives in raid0 should give you 12tb - cache&raidloss

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:52 AM

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yeah it was typo 😄

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so my effective capacity wouldnt really be 7.92 TB though

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right?

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:53 AM

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3 drives (4tb) in raid5 should give you a cylced sum of 2 drives of active storage space and should keep a cycled parity drive of (a bit less than) 4TB

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so you would get about 7.92 tb yea

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:54 AM

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yeah it's 67% of total

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so what happens if the raid 5 array is at full capacity

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then a drive fails

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:54 AM

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and 4tb of drive-cycled parity (which you can't access regularly)

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if one drive fails

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:54 AM

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ik it has a fault tolerance of 1 drive failure

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:55 AM

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it'll use backed up parity data and data off the live drive to extrapolate the data off the dead drive and the parity drive should become an active drive for you to at least transfer the data

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so it doesn't actually mirror all the data into the parity blocks

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:55 AM

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Well wait, I thought parity is distributed

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:56 AM

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it is

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:56 AM

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Raid 4 was the one with all of it on 1 drive right

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:56 AM

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ok here

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so 1 drive fails

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depending on the amount of data blocks

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you would lose about 1/3 of the total data and 1/3 of the total parity

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but with the parity still on the other 2 drives

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you can calculate the lost data

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 2:57 AM

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makes sense

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:58 AM

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2/3 of the data on the drive is 1/3 of the total drive data
1/3 of the data on the drive is 1/3 of the parity

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if you had a raid5 of more than 3 and more than 1 drive fails

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you lose extra parity

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and there's too little parity to accurately calculate what the lost data is

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so that's the fault tolerance of 1 drive

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it's 5 am for me

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so I'm gonna sleep but if you have more questions I'm certain you can ask more people here

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or just hmu tomorrow lol

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 3:00 AM

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alright

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good night

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ty for enlightening me

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 3:00 AM

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np

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 3:00 AM

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GWcmeisterPeepoLove

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 3:00 AM

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I learn more from trying to explain stuff than getting explanation

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 3:01 AM

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same with programming sometimes 😄

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 3:01 AM

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cause you look at it differently when reading

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👋

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 3:01 AM

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👋🏻

wild yarrow Aug 25, 2018, 3:08 AM

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the default hand color looks like a lego person

robust sierra Aug 25, 2018, 3:15 AM

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Roblox hand

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 3:16 AM

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fuuuuuuuuuuuck

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NAS enclosure are expensive

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it costs as much as the 3 drives i will put in 😩

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i think im just looking at top-end ones

tame pier Aug 25, 2018, 3:32 AM

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Buy used

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Or better yet, just build your own

wild yarrow Aug 25, 2018, 3:54 AM

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it's not really hard c:

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right? i think it's not hard.....

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 3:56 AM

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yeah might build my own 🤷🏻

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it isnt hard its basically like building a PC

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just gotta choose the right parts

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and I guess the case is smaller

wild yarrow Aug 25, 2018, 3:56 AM

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that sounds right

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i know i've done it in the past, and that sounds correct

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couldn't you like do it with something like a rasberry pi?

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just like get a couple like 5TB drives and hook them up to a rasberry pi and have it connect to the network etc

cerulean basin Aug 25, 2018, 4:01 AM

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I believe hardware specs are tied to r/w speeds

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so rpi would probably be pretty slow

wild yarrow Aug 25, 2018, 4:13 AM

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oh that's true

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 4:40 AM

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there's this 2-bay one I know of

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cause we have that at home

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my-Ditto

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it's like 80$

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but my-Ditto might be Netherlands only

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EU at least

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you might find something better here https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Description=nas enclosure 4 bay&Submit=ENE

rough sapphire Aug 25, 2018, 2:47 PM

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@rough sapphire

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?

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📎 unknown.png

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oh

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i solved it

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thank you tho

worn kite Aug 25, 2018, 4:23 PM

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this is why we have

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!t ask

royal lakeBOT Aug 25, 2018, 4:23 PM

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ask

Asking good questions will yield a much higher chance of a quick response:

• Don't ask to ask your question, just go ahead and tell us your problem.
• Try to solve the problem on your own first, we're not going to write code for you.
• Show us the code you've tried and any errors or unexpected results it's giving
• Keep your patience while we're helping you.

You can find a much more detailed explanation on our website.

worn kite Aug 25, 2018, 6:40 PM

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https://xkcd.com/2036/

xkcd: Edgelord

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I actually find the most funny thing in that drawing is how his hat is actually talking.

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actually...

wild yarrow Aug 25, 2018, 10:14 PM

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lel

solar zealot Aug 25, 2018, 10:46 PM

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amazing

ebon quarry Aug 25, 2018, 11:11 PM

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lol

tame pier Aug 26, 2018, 1:32 AM

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http://multivax.com/last_question.html

The Last Question -- Isaac Asimov

Isaac Asimov's Last Question

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Good read, but not for the faint of heart or non-adults: http://web.archive.org/web/20070227202043/http://www.scifi.com/scifiction/classics/classics_archive/ellison/ellison1.html

steel fox Aug 26, 2018, 2:57 AM

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@cerulean basin u know about the easy stores for shucking right?

cerulean basin Aug 26, 2018, 4:20 AM

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no i didnt actually

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i have opened one of those up before but not to safe money

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just had an old one sitting around and got tired of using it over usb 2

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it does have 1 year less of warranty though 🤔

sand goblet Aug 26, 2018, 8:32 AM

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I decided to try i3wm

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I see the value of tiling, but this thing is definitely not for me

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so I installed the shelltile gnome extension, and now I have easy tiling

tame pier Aug 26, 2018, 8:33 AM

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Ceramic or stone?

sand goblet Aug 26, 2018, 8:34 AM

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are you secretly a dad?

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👀

tame pier Aug 26, 2018, 8:40 AM

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Yes

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Why do you ask

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Also I don't remember it being 240 wtf

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I need to just get off the computer at 10

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Got sucked into a project...

sand goblet Aug 26, 2018, 8:42 AM

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Happens. :P

tame pier Aug 26, 2018, 8:47 AM

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And now someone locked their dog outside and it's really not happy

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So why am I a dad again?

sand goblet Aug 26, 2018, 8:57 AM

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dad jokes

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:v

tame pier Aug 26, 2018, 8:59 AM

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Mmk

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Now there's a chorus of dogs...

steel fox Aug 26, 2018, 10:07 AM

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@cerulean basin most of them have 8TB WD Reds iirc

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It saves like $100/drive or something over buying retail

cerulean basin Aug 26, 2018, 10:08 AM

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yeah it looks like a good deal especially when on sale

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i was planning on getting 4tb drives

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in raid 3 thatd be 8 tb already which is plenty

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but on sale theyll cost about as much as the 4 tbs so its worth

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might end up needing the space eventually

steel fox Aug 26, 2018, 10:10 AM

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Yeah. It’s real nice. There’s a spreadsheet somewhere that lists serial number vs what type of drive is inside

cerulean basin Aug 26, 2018, 10:11 AM

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I went on the reddit for it, you probably know the one I am talking about

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Going to just watch for sales

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then strike

steel fox Aug 26, 2018, 10:12 AM

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Yeah

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I was thinking about buying 1 or 2 for drives to put in my box

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But then I found a dude selling 2TB drives for $20 on CL

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So I bought a couple there

sour shale Aug 26, 2018, 12:49 PM

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do u get warrenty

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wouldn't trust craiglist HDD 👀

wild yarrow Aug 26, 2018, 1:09 PM

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same tbh

rough sapphire Aug 26, 2018, 4:08 PM

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Can't fork the bot, any idea why? https://gyazo.com/da8c94c96efae03adedb31f5417b1673

Gyazo

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Do you have a repo with the name bot already on your gl account?

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that'd be my first guess

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Nope

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reforked and it worked

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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blobhyperthonkang

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nope failed again, now got an error 404

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I will try again later

bleak lintel Aug 26, 2018, 4:54 PM

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thank you gitlab very cool

royal tartan Aug 26, 2018, 4:59 PM

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githug

halcyon willow Aug 26, 2018, 5:00 PM

#

O

sour shale Aug 26, 2018, 5:02 PM

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i prefer github

royal tartan Aug 26, 2018, 5:10 PM

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eww

glass gorge Aug 26, 2018, 5:11 PM

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Fileshare through uni file system with FTP drakeyea

rough sapphire Aug 26, 2018, 5:12 PM

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I preffer mailing an usb

glass gorge Aug 26, 2018, 5:12 PM

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Pidgeon over 21 floppy disks

bleak lintel Aug 26, 2018, 5:17 PM

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to be honest you can use git over ftp

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mount the ftp share using FUSE, git init share/memes.git --bare

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then clone from the path

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ezpz version control over FTP

glass gorge Aug 26, 2018, 5:23 PM

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But is it hosted by your university thonk

bleak lintel Aug 26, 2018, 5:23 PM

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no

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I don't have a university sorry bro

glass gorge Aug 26, 2018, 5:24 PM

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By my university * ?

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weSmart

bleak lintel Aug 26, 2018, 5:26 PM

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we_smart

glass gorge Aug 26, 2018, 5:38 PM

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📎 unknown.png

ebon quarry Aug 26, 2018, 5:42 PM

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lol

worn kite Aug 26, 2018, 6:01 PM

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o_O

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https://giphy.com/gifs/deer-bambi-hiccups-HHt5Q0oV4qudi

Giphy

tame pier Aug 26, 2018, 7:08 PM

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You can use git peer to peer

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I did not know it went over ftp though, that's neat

sullen thorn Aug 26, 2018, 7:33 PM

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oooh perfect - a git ot right when i need it

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so i have a repo on github, and i wanna rename one of the directories

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but it has like 100 files in it, so i cant do it manually on the website

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i have a blank ubuntu server - what do i do?

worn kite Aug 26, 2018, 7:35 PM

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git clone, move, add, commit, push

sullen thorn Aug 26, 2018, 7:35 PM

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ok wait one sec

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ok i cloned it

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now do i need to do git mv, or just normal mv?

worn kite Aug 26, 2018, 7:37 PM

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both are okay, but i'd use git mv

sullen thorn Aug 26, 2018, 7:38 PM

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ok now i have now idea how add commit or push work :/

worn kite Aug 26, 2018, 7:38 PM

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that might probably add the files automatically, or maybe it gets even recorded as a move/rename instead of a delete and create that way

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check git status to see if the changes are staged or not

sullen thorn Aug 26, 2018, 7:39 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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idk if that means theyre staged or not?

worn kite Aug 26, 2018, 7:39 PM

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I think so

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then git commit -m "PUT YOUR COMMIT MESSAGE HERE"

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and git push

sullen thorn Aug 26, 2018, 7:42 PM

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warning: push.default is unset; its implicit value has changed in
Git 2.0 from 'matching' to 'simple'. To squelch this message
and maintain the traditional behavior, use:

  git config --global push.default matching

To squelch this message and adopt the new behavior now, use:

  git config --global push.default simple

When push.default is set to 'matching', git will push local branches
to the remote branches that already exist with the same name.

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not sure which one i want?

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holy crap it worked !!!

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i fucking love u @worn kite

worn kite Aug 26, 2018, 7:45 PM

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... we might also skip the fucking part, if you don't mind 😳

sullen thorn Aug 26, 2018, 7:46 PM

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if u insist...

granite lake Aug 26, 2018, 8:53 PM

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Lmao

modern heron Aug 26, 2018, 9:54 PM

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Ill take you to the candy shop

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BOO BOOO BOO BOOOO

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I'll let you lick the lollipop

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Go ahead girl don't you stop

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DOOO DOOO DOO DOOOOO

sand goblet Aug 26, 2018, 9:57 PM

#

These are not spam channels

modern heron Aug 26, 2018, 9:57 PM

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its not spam

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its art

sand goblet Aug 26, 2018, 9:57 PM

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It is spam.

modern heron Aug 26, 2018, 9:58 PM

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One mans spam is another mans art - Mahatma Gandhi

tame pier Aug 26, 2018, 9:58 PM

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A shitpost is a shitpost -Known "banhammer" Error

modern heron Aug 26, 2018, 9:58 PM

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Well, Not according to Gandhi. Are you implying your above Gandhi?

tame pier Aug 26, 2018, 9:59 PM

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Yes

sand goblet Aug 26, 2018, 9:59 PM

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It's not your definition that matters.

modern heron Aug 26, 2018, 9:59 PM

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Dang

sand goblet Aug 26, 2018, 9:59 PM

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:P

sour shale Aug 26, 2018, 9:59 PM

#

Well, Not according to Gandhi. Are you implying your above Gandhi?I forgot the name of this logical fallacy

I guess it is a subset of strawman anyway

modern heron Aug 26, 2018, 9:59 PM

#

cant argue with that

sand goblet Aug 26, 2018, 9:59 PM

#

Just link the song next time

sour shale Aug 26, 2018, 9:59 PM

#

ah i remember

it's Appeal to Authority fallacy

sand goblet Aug 26, 2018, 9:59 PM

#

You'll also avoid alienating half the channel

sour shale Aug 26, 2018, 10:00 PM

#

remember Ghandi also literally said that if he had a nuclear bomb he would fire it at england

modern heron Aug 26, 2018, 10:00 PM

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well. I mean, 50 Cent - Candy Shop ft. Olivia has the channel to split any channel

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its a hot topic

sour shale Aug 26, 2018, 10:00 PM

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it was a good song ye

modern heron Aug 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

#

was

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still is

sour shale Aug 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

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its past its time a bit

sand goblet Aug 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

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I know people that used to unironically like that :P

modern heron Aug 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

#

damn

tame pier Aug 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

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We're not really that kind of server tho

modern heron Aug 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

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Every server is a candyshop server

sand goblet Aug 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

#

Yeah, I guess fiddy cent isn't gonna be that popular among developers

sour shale Aug 26, 2018, 10:02 PM

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I don't rly like fiddy

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but I do like old school Kanye West

sand goblet Aug 26, 2018, 10:02 PM

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Well, you know, that's just the way it is.

modern heron Aug 26, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

I mean

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its a fucking MASSIVE song anyway

sour shale Aug 26, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

Kanye West's first few albums were great

modern heron Aug 26, 2018, 10:02 PM

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have you seen the lyrics for it

sand goblet Aug 26, 2018, 10:02 PM

#

Things will never be the same.

#

Okay I'm done, see you guys tomorrow

sour shale Aug 26, 2018, 10:03 PM

#

now we got Kendrick Lamar

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night o/

modern heron Aug 26, 2018, 10:03 PM

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4 minute songs arnt popular nowerdays

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thats sad

tame pier Aug 26, 2018, 10:03 PM

#

Bai

steel fox Aug 26, 2018, 10:09 PM

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@sour shale over here quoting fallacies like he’s some kind of vegetarian

sour shale Aug 26, 2018, 10:10 PM

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culol

modern heron Aug 27, 2018, 12:50 AM

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where did the minecraft channel go?

tired osprey Aug 27, 2018, 1:07 AM

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closed because the server was taken down because nobody was playing on it

modern heron Aug 27, 2018, 2:18 AM

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boo

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:32 AM

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I have no idea where to take my front page now

#

Also, can you do "modules" of html/css for say navigation? without python/js etc

steel fox Aug 27, 2018, 5:33 AM

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Africa

tame pier Aug 27, 2018, 5:35 AM

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https://gohugo.io

The world’s fastest framework for building websites

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:36 AM

#

that would require another installation?

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I gotta do it in pure html/css 😅

tame pier Aug 27, 2018, 5:37 AM

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This is markdown

#

I'm gonna play around with it next weekend maybe

slate quail Aug 27, 2018, 5:38 AM

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"modules"?

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:40 AM

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As in how flask uses templates, and jinja i believe to load in certain html snippets like a navigation bar

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So i dont have to copypaste the same navigation bar to every single html doc

tame terrace Aug 27, 2018, 5:41 AM

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without js or python? I mean.. in what, pure html?

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:41 AM

#

and css yeah

tame terrace Aug 27, 2018, 5:41 AM

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I guess there are frames...

tame pier Aug 27, 2018, 5:41 AM

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Sounds nice

tame terrace Aug 27, 2018, 5:41 AM

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but it is really really old school

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:42 AM

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thonk

tame pier Aug 27, 2018, 5:42 AM

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Sounds like it won't crash my browser when I click login

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:42 AM

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But if its what I gotta do to save some time. so be it

tame pier Aug 27, 2018, 5:42 AM

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Or fucking scroll

slate quail Aug 27, 2018, 5:42 AM

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ocourse frames are deprecated now

tame terrace Aug 27, 2018, 5:42 AM

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baaically you make a navbar "website" and then load it at the top of every page as an iframe

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:42 AM

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whelp

slate quail Aug 27, 2018, 5:42 AM

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no longer part of the standard

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some browsers have dropped support

tame terrace Aug 27, 2018, 5:42 AM

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yeah it's fucked

slate quail Aug 27, 2018, 5:42 AM

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oh iframes

tame terrace Aug 27, 2018, 5:42 AM

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don't do it.

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:43 AM

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Accessibility is like half the course, using deprecated functions ... yeah

tame terrace Aug 27, 2018, 5:43 AM

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communicating back to the page you're loading the iframe from is really gross

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and when I think about it, using iframes as frames maaay require ja

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js

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:44 AM

#

ugh

tame terrace Aug 27, 2018, 5:44 AM

#

legacy frames may be a possibility

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:44 AM

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Maybe I just have to stick to copypaste

slate quail Aug 27, 2018, 5:44 AM

#

iframes are still part of the standard and don't use JS

tame terrace Aug 27, 2018, 5:44 AM

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I certainly would

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:44 AM

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I'll write a python script that edits all my files for me weSmart

slate quail Aug 27, 2018, 5:44 AM

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legacy frames are the dead ones

tame pier Aug 27, 2018, 5:44 AM

#

Is it possible to make a good website without JS?

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:44 AM

#

So it seems

tame pier Aug 27, 2018, 5:44 AM

#

Just pure modern html and css

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:44 AM

#

https://dikult105.k.uib.no/2018H/students/tpe044/

#

This is mine so far

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Only html/css

tame pier Aug 27, 2018, 5:45 AM

#

I said good website

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:45 AM

#

:(

tame pier Aug 27, 2018, 5:45 AM

#

SmugFire

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Just kidding

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:45 AM

#

Reminds me i forgot to write the hover-over a hyperlink feedback thing

tame terrace Aug 27, 2018, 5:46 AM

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basically iframes is fine until you wanna send data between the iframe and the iframe host. at that point js may be needed. maybe for a pure navbar it would work.

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:46 AM

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Hm

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It would (hopefully) just be a click to navigate bar

#

no dropdowns or anything either

slate quail Aug 27, 2018, 5:47 AM

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send data?

tame terrace Aug 27, 2018, 5:47 AM

#

could always try

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:47 AM

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Actually

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I was going to make a hamburger nav bar

#

thonk

tame terrace Aug 27, 2018, 5:48 AM

#

yeah the classic example is resizing stuff. the iframe might need to know the size of the window you're sticking it in.

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:48 AM

#

since ya know, start with mobile layout, and work up in size

tame terrace Aug 27, 2018, 5:48 AM

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or else it ends up looking fucked.

slate quail Aug 27, 2018, 5:48 AM

#

ahhhh

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:48 AM

#

Could probably just resize it in css?

#

iframe{
width: 100%;
height: auto;
}```

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feelskawaiiman

tame terrace Aug 27, 2018, 5:50 AM

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that's likely to work for you. at work it caused a huge problem and was a pain in the ass

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:50 AM

#

oof

tame terrace Aug 27, 2018, 5:50 AM

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the iframe host would end up with these 6000px empty pages

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scroll forever

glass gorge Aug 27, 2018, 5:50 AM

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wutface