#ot1-perplexing-regexing

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cerulean basin
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xml

tame pier
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XML, which everyone hates but everyone can't seem to live without

tired osprey
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JPEG FS

tulip palm
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oh dear.

tired osprey
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a file system whihc saves all data as jpegs

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like this image based language

tulip palm
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๐Ÿค”

tame pier
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ASN.1

tired osprey
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there is a language in which the source code is an image

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what was the name

tame pier
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SVG

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Scalable Vector Graphic

tired osprey
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PIET

tulip palm
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piet?

tired osprey
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yes

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piet

tulip palm
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fuck

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piet

tired osprey
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PIET FS

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hello world in PIET

tulip palm
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yes we've all seen it before :D

steel fox
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Gif that does t move. Angry face.

bleak lintel
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Wait

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XMLFS

tame pier
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Joseph what do you think of the potential for this sport?

bleak lintel
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hmmm

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this has potential

sour shale
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literally most british people i know drink coffee not tea

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it was all over when starbucks invaded

sand goblet
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Most brits I know drink both

sour shale
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maybe ye

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they might have tea at home that i don't see ๐Ÿค”

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I think Chai tea or other chinese teas are "in" now

wild yarrow
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both are great

sour shale
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I can't remember what Chai tea tastes like

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I see Chai late a lot too these days ๐Ÿ˜„

wild yarrow
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it's a spiced tea

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it's good when it's cold

rough sapphire
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mulled wine is good for that, with or without alcohol.

haughty pulsar
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muahahahahaha

tired osprey
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Assuming they are big enough and close enough to each other that is

tame terrace
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I have a bunch of those

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but they're tiny

rough sapphire
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Not partnered with Hacking-Coding anymore?

tame terrace
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nope.

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that was a long time ago, actually

rough sapphire
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@tired osprey infinity isn't a real number

tired osprey
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infinity is a real number

rain spindle
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Yes it is

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Of course it is

tired osprey
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real numbers are the rational and the irrational numbers

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infinity is irrational

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=> infinity is a real number

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and now get out pastebin

rough sapphire
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infinity rather than a real number is a concept for a number larger than any natural number

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is 1+i irrational?

tired osprey
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no

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complex

rain spindle
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^

rough sapphire
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infinity is infinite

tired osprey
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yes

rough sapphire
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not irrational

rain spindle
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Complex number, real number

tired osprey
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irrational numbers just include inifity per definition

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accept it

rain spindle
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@rough sapphire @tired osprey evidence

rough sapphire
rain spindle
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Nix?

rough sapphire
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which is what I literally said

rain spindle
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You have 10 mins

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Or pastebin wins

tired osprey
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if ininfinty wouldnt be a real number all of the school math i learned in the last year wouldnt make sense

rain spindle
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Nonono

tired osprey
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yes yes yes

rain spindle
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Don't care what you say

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Evidence

rough sapphire
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"In mathematics, the affinely extended real number system is obtained from the real number system โ„ by adding two elements: +โ€ฏโˆž and โ€“โ€ฏโˆž (read as positive infinity and negative infinity respectively). These new elements are not real numbers."

sour shale
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infinity is not a real number n00bs

rain spindle
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*pastebin

tired osprey
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infinity is a real number

sour shale
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no

rough sapphire
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evidence

rain spindle
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@sour shale context

sour shale
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infinity is in the extended real numbers

rough sapphire
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^

sour shale
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reeeeee

tired osprey
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for what numbers is 1/x defined

rain spindle
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@tired osprey evidence

rough sapphire
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Infinity (symbol: โˆž) is a concept describing something without any bound or larger than any natural number. ... In mathematics, "infinity" is often treated as a number (i.e., it counts or measures things: "an infinite number of terms") but it is not the same sort of number as either a natural or a real number.```
sour shale
rough sapphire
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any number that isn't 0

rain spindle
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EVIDENCE NIX

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WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND

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lmao

tired osprey
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HERE

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EVIDENCE

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UPLOADING

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Infinity (symbol: โˆž) is a concept describing something without any bound or larger than any natural number. Philosophers have speculated about the nature of the infinite, for example Zeno of Elea, who proposed many paradoxes involving infinity, and Eudoxus of Cnidus, who us...

rough sapphire
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"it is not the same sort of number as either a natural or a real number"

rain spindle
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@tired osprey that litrally says

tired osprey
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for whihc numbers is 1/x defined

rain spindle
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It's not a real number

tired osprey
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you didnt answer my question

rain spindle
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No

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It says

rough sapphire
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is 0*x = 0

rain spindle
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It's not a real number

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Your evidence is invalid

tired osprey
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you said infinity is a real number yourself

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why arent you providing real numbers

rain spindle
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I backed you cause I believed you

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You usually are right

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Not this time

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Pastebin wins!

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Here is your prize:

rough sapphire
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@tired osprey is it always true that 0*x=0

tired osprey
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no

rain spindle
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@rough sapphire no

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0^0

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Is 1

tired osprey
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i can define * as whatever operator i want

rain spindle
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Of that's not power

tired osprey
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  • doesnt have to be times
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so silence

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this time i win

trim ore
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That was a confusing ping

tired osprey
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i got @celest olive who studied maths as source

rain spindle
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dry

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Sorry @trim ore

tired osprey
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beat that pastebin

rough sapphire
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given that * is the normal multiplication operator, is it always true that 0*x=0

trim ore
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Ha, no, it's okay

tired osprey
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yes

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now

rain spindle
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NIX ADMITTED DEFEAT

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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HAHAHA

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HAHA

rough sapphire
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is 1/x defined for any real number x

tired osprey
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NO

rain spindle
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@rough sapphire I love you

tired osprey
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DIDNT YOU LISTEN

rain spindle
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You did it

tired osprey
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/ does not have to be division

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we just discussed this

sand goblet
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what the heck is going on in here

rain spindle
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I meant from earlier

rough sapphire
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given that / is the normal division operator, is 1/x defined for any number x

tired osprey
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yes

rain spindle
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@sand goblet just nix actually getting somthing wrong

rough sapphire
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0*(1/0)=0
1=0

tired osprey
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for what

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for which * and /

rough sapphire
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the normal multiplication and division operators

sand goblet
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oh, is this the old 0 == 1 fallacy?

rain spindle
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Don't think so

sand goblet
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looks like it

rough sapphire
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nix said that 1 divided by x is defined for any real number x

tired osprey
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also sharp

rough sapphire
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wait

tired osprey
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i didnt loose

sand goblet
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he probably just pulled it from wikipedia

rough sapphire
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@tired osprey is 0 a real number

sand goblet
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like everyone else does

tired osprey
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i won he had to correct his statement and then i agreed

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@rough sapphire yes now what

rough sapphire
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so 1/0 is defined

tired osprey
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no

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the ordinary division is not defined for 0

rough sapphire
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so 0 is not a number

tired osprey
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i was reading the first part

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also what is a number

sand goblet
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0/10 excuse

tired osprey
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shshsh

rough sapphire
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(what's 0?)

tired osprey
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whats anything

tulip palm
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what is gdude

sand goblet
rough sapphire
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what is ordinary division

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what is 1

tired osprey
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i can agree that 1/x is defined for / being ordinary division and x โˆˆ โ„ \ {0}

tulip palm
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gareth that is very unsatisfactory.

tired osprey
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who agrees with me

sand goblet
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What is love?

tired osprey
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OH I MEMBER

rough sapphire
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nix i agree with you

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1/x is defined for / being ordinary division and x โˆˆ โ„ \ {0}

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but only if you exclude 0

tired osprey
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yes

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fine

rain spindle
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@rough sapphire 0/i*0 is -10000000

tired osprey
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I MEMBER DAT

rough sapphire
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@rain spindle no, it's 0

tired osprey
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what is i*0

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WHAT IS รญ

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@rain spindle define

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also whats the precedence in that term

rough sapphire
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(0/i)*0

tired osprey
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yeah then its zero

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i hope

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im not into complex numbers

rough sapphire
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0/i = 0

tired osprey
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and 0/(0*i) = 0/= which isnt defined

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@rain spindle you are wrong

rough sapphire
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^

tired osprey
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come here and justify yourself

rough sapphire
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unless / or * mean something different

mental stratus
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Hey all - anyone in here good w/ npm/node?

tired osprey
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yeah what are / and * defined as

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so many questions

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no idk about node

mental stratus
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I've got a question about customizing some sass variables

tired osprey
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or rather i wish i couldnt write node code

cerulean basin
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chris what are you having issues with

rough sapphire
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if 0 * 0 = -10000000 and division and operator precedence are normal then technically sharp is right

cerulean basin
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actually

tired osprey
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but

cerulean basin
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lets move to ot2

tired osprey
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for which /

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ot 23

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yeah

mental stratus
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ok

tired osprey
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24 off topics when

rough sapphire
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normal division

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division and operator precedence are normal

tired osprey
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but

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what operation would yield 0*0 as -10000000

rough sapphire
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the operation that always yields -10000000

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or multiplies (normally) and then subtracts (normally) 10000000

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or does basically anything that just happens to become -10000000 for 0 and 0

tired osprey
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so if the * in sharps 0*0 is (expressed with normal operations)
(left*right)-10000000 he is correct

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@rain spindle you might be right

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@rough sapphire whats next on the list

rough sapphire
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@tired osprey IndexError

tired osprey
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hm

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list.append(random_problem())

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@rough sapphire try again

rough sapphire
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@tired osprey NameError

tired osprey
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sad

tulip palm
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i'd expect a TypeError there

rain spindle
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Nix I'm mucking around

rough sapphire
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@tulip palm the name error was because random_problem isn't defined

tulip palm
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oh i see, yeah okay

tired osprey
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@rough sapphire do you want to proof
(m^b) mod a = (m^c) mod a
for all of those numbers being element of the natural numbers

tulip palm
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should have thought about that in terms of the order in which the bytecode is evaluated

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where the NameError would happen before TypeError due to python using a call stack

tired osprey
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wait no thats the wrong expression

rough sapphire
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>>> (2**1) % 3
2
>>> (2**2) % 3
1```
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i don't want to proof it because it's clearly false

tired osprey
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proof that
(m^(b*n+1)) mod a = (m^(c*n+1)) mod a

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that is true

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if not ssl has a problem

rough sapphire
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>>> (2**(0*1+1)) % 3
2
>>> (2**(1*1+1)) % 3
1```
tired osprey
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NATURAL NUMBERS

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NOT 0

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smh

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and this time i am sure

rough sapphire
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>>> (2**(2*1+1)) % 3
2
>>> (2**(3*1+1)) % 3
1```
tired osprey
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0 is not element of the natural numbers

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what

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why

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but then my rsa proof doesnt work

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oh dear

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(12^(4*5+1))%3 == (12^(5*5+1))%3

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this is ungood

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why isnt it true

rough sapphire
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that works because 12 % 3 = 0

tired osprey
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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maybe its just true for the constant exponent being phi n

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gimme a second

rough sapphire
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it works for 13 too

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hmm

tired osprey
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the rsa paper says that

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(m^(k*phi(n)+1)) mod n = (m^(d*phi(n)+1)) mod n

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maybe its the phi n

rough sapphire
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what's phi(n)

tired osprey
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the euler phi function

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if n is the product of two primes p and q phi(n) = (p-1) * (q-1)

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>>> n = 3*5
>>> phi_n = 2*4
>>> (12**(4*phi_n)) % n == (12**(10*phi_n)) % n
True
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there we go

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so now pastebin

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tell me why that works

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it should have something to do with group theory

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pastebin

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explain

rough sapphire
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because of something to do with group theory?

tired osprey
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yes but what

rough sapphire
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something

tired osprey
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

rough sapphire
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to do with group theory

tired osprey
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grup theory

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yes but what

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and dont say something now

sour shale
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wtfff

tired osprey
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whats wrong cake

sour shale
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IDK this maths

tired osprey
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its another field of maths

bleak lintel
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Holy shit the rental car has wifi

sour shale
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car wifi nice

zinc sail
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I had a hotspot in my last rental, it was pretty sweet

granite lake
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lol

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nice

bleak lintel
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it's unlimited data so I can stream anime all day

glass gorge
granite lake
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lit

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๐Ÿ”ฅ

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@bleak lintel dowload fornite

bleak lintel
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I can't dowload fortnite it is shit on mobile

glass gorge
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Download the internet PogWoW

granite lake
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floppy

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go back to playing fiwafowks

glass gorge
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:(

granite lake
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lol

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I'm considering learning java

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Hope I come out as gold

bleak lintel
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Oh I drove past Mozilla's offices today

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They have the Firefox fox outside it

granite lake
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send a pic

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If you have

bleak lintel
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I don't have it I'm afraid

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That's it

rain spindle
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Omega lyl

granite lake
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

tulip palm
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is it bad that i put all my programs on my boot SSD?

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(on arch btw)

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:^)

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i wish i could move them to my HDD but i actually don't really know how to.

steel fox
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@tired osprey look at Fermats little theorem

tired osprey
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ive looked at it before

steel fox
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Thatโ€™s why.

tired osprey
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great

steel fox
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And then some of the other stuff you can prove by construction if you really need to

tired osprey
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but clay i already used fermats little theorem to get the equation

(m^(k*phi(n)+1) mod n = (m^(d*phi(n)+1) mod n

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im just not sure why the values of k and d dont really matter

steel fox
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I think itโ€™s because theyโ€™re multiples of a number right?

tired osprey
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huh

steel fox
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Donโ€™t you get k and d from using lcm at some point?

tired osprey
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no

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the k is chosen as

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unknown integer

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and the d is not the d from the encryption but just a value that says that there is a multiple of phi(n) in the exponent which is maybe equal to k but maybe not

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those integers are completely unknown

wild yarrow
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the d

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:P

tulip palm
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are you like 3 :^)

wild yarrow
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you know it

cerulean basin
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what terminal emulator do you guys use in Arch

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I just use Konsole right now and it's kinda meh

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@ me cause I am gonna sleep

tulip palm
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i use termite

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@cerulean basin @cerulean basin @cerulean basin

tame terrace
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btw I don't use arch but mmmmm Tilix is nice

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and I think you can get it for arch

tulip palm
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tilix is good yes, but i have i3 so it's not really necessary for me

tame terrace
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how does i3 work when you have four monitors?

tulip palm
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ooh i3 is weird on multiple monitors

tame terrace
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so why do you use it

tulip palm
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weird == bad, apparently :D

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i really like i3 just cause it looks decent and i have no problems with using it on multiple monitors.

tame terrace
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always struck me as something that miiight be nice on a single huge monitor

tulip palm
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i often have [ sublime | terminal ] on my main screen and [ discord ] on my secondary screen

tame terrace
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what about the other two monitors?

tulip palm
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well i don't have two more monitors, but i'm sure if i had 4 monitors, i'd have a use for them.

tame terrace
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huh? where's your other two monitors?

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did you let someone borrow them or something?

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is there like a friend visiting and he's using two of them for his laptop?

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that's probably it

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that's very nice of you.

tulip palm
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haha, i've literally never said i have 4 monitors :D

tame terrace
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when someone tells you that they're a programmer, you make certain assumptions about them

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they have a keyboard

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an internet connection

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probably some sort of operating system installed

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four monitors

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etc.

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anything else would be ridiculous.

rough sapphire
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4 monitors... nice.

sand goblet
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I also use tilix, it's great

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It's kind of like having tmux but it's not a pain to use

rough sapphire
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I got laughed at at one job when I had 4 monitors

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2 for my desktop, and then laptop with external screen.

tame terrace
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yeah well some people just can't be helped

rough sapphire
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I only use 2 atm, since my laptop has been borrowed

tame terrace
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I found additional monitors suffer from some degree of diminishing returns

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like if you have one monitor and upgrade to 2, then that's like a 50% productivity increase

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but the third one is only 25%

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and the fourth one is at 12.5%, which is still nice, but let's face it. you don't need five.

sand goblet
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I want a big square one with 3 wide-screen ones with matching width positioned around it as a border

rough sapphire
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I only have 2 as well pepe , no room for more, maybe a laptop

tame terrace
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corner desks are nice

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personally though I kinda wanna start using more vertical space for monitors. maybe have one or two above my current ones.

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but I'd need a second gpu

gentle moss
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who doesn't have 4 monitors?

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also no room for display port daisy chaining lemon?

tame terrace
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daisy chaining is a myth

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never works properly.

gentle moss
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interesting

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i never tried it because i have enough graphics cards

tame terrace
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anyway the GTX 980 only supports 4 displays afaik

gentle moss
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that doesn't seem like many for that card

rough sapphire
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Can't you just put the fith one with the integrated gpu?

gentle moss
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at work i use 2 outputs from the discrete and 2 from the iGPU, works okay

tame terrace
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my work computer is so small that I can't fit a gpu in it so I'm stuck with the onboard graphics :(

gentle moss
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O_O

tame terrace
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so I need two computers and fucking synergy

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which is awful

gentle moss
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i still haven't re-installed it after v2.0 pissed me off so much

tame terrace
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copy paste between the machines works like 20% of the time

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and if you hit the windows key the connection resets

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yay

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also if you try to type a backtick

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or an @

gentle moss
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i had problems with screen skipping and keyboard layouts between Linux / Windows

tame terrace
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it's worthless

gentle moss
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i'd drag the mouse onto my linux laptop and it'd go "oh okay we're going back to the furthest monitor away from where you want to be now."

tame terrace
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on my home machine I don't have onboard gpu

gentle moss
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and i've got a 400dpi mouse so that's like a 2 mile hike

tame terrace
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the mobo is too high end. they don't usually come with it.

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kind of worthless on a real rig

gentle moss
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it's potentially bad for stability if you overclock too

tame terrace
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nobody builds a rig with an expensive mobo and no GPU

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that was directed at @rough sapphire btw

gentle moss
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you could get one of those USB display adapters

tame terrace
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wait 400dpi mouse wtf?

gentle moss
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yeah

tame terrace
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naw but my mobo supports SLI so I'd just get a second 980 if I wanted more monitors

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would probably need a new tower to cool it though, this one is barely hanging in there.

gentle moss
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rocking this bad boy

tame terrace
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oh god

gentle moss
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the most successful mouse of 2005

tame terrace
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I've had a couple of those

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how can you live without thumb buttons, dude

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holy shit I would quit my job

gentle moss
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i stole it from a discard pile because i wanted a mouse with a decent sensor in so i could play quake at work

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eh, none of the mice we have have thumb buttons :(

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i should complain

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does make browsing a pain, having to use the keyboard to track forward / back

tame terrace
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currently using this

gentle moss
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holy shit

tame terrace
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kinda ugly but ergonomy is nice.

gentle moss
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got enough lights on that?

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the scroll wheel light should change colour the faster you scroll

tame terrace
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also I can change the cpi on the fly.

rough sapphire
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Looks fly

tame terrace
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not really my kind of thing, but has a good scroll wheel, good ergo, and 5 buttons. that's all I need.

gentle moss
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i do miss my thumb buttons at work

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especially since backspace doesn't take you back anymore

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alt+left, smh

tame terrace
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at work I got the M500

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which honestly is probably a better mouse

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and it has that free scroll mousewheel which is SO NICE

gentle moss
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oooooh

tame terrace
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(it's also cheap)

gentle moss
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scroll forever

tame terrace
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yeah! spin the wheel!

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you can almost scroll through an entire Wait But Why article in a single heave

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:D

gentle moss
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:D

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is there a Mouse Wheel of Fortune game?

tame terrace
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(that joke is amazing if you've ever read WBW)

gentle moss
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that seems like a missed opportunity with free scrolls

tame terrace
gentle moss
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oh christ

tame terrace
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great read, though

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everything he writes is a great read.

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it'll take 2 weeks to get through it but his Elon Musk series (leading up to this post) is unbelievably exciting, and his AI articles were so good I bought like six books for further reading.

gentle moss
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does seem like the sort of thing that's more comfortable to digest on paper

rough sapphire
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lemon, which version of synergy were you using, and what connection type between the machines?

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and to my mind, the MX518 is the best low end gaming mouse you can get.

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tho they are rather expensive now

tame terrace
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I hate the MX518s

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partly because they look like a crashed car

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and I don't know, the latest version

sour shale
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Logitech G502

gentle moss
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i disliked the tilting mouse wheel click thing

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on the MX518

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was too easy to set off while scrolling

sour shale
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MX518 is just suuuuper ugly

tame terrace
#

one of the ugliest mice ever made imo

#

yeah

#

I mean

#

what were they thinking

#

it just looks like someone put little finger dents all over it :(

sour shale
#

why does it look bashed up

tame terrace
#

that's just how it comes, right out of the box.

sour shale
tame terrace
#

like a pair of pre-torn jeans

sour shale
#

pre-torn jeans are ook

tame terrace
#

ook ook!

sour shale
#

is that Full House? ๐Ÿ˜„

tame terrace
#

iunno, you said it

sour shale
#

๐Ÿค”

rough sapphire
#

My mate had one, and I kept thinking it was a gel pad, until I had one myself.

#

tbh, I don't care what it looks like, cos I don't spend time looking at it.

#

It is comfortable and has all the functions I need.

sour shale
#

i look at my mouse

gentle moss
#

ah, you're not a touch mouser kinda guy

#

a rare breed

rough sapphire
#

lol

#

it's the same with this RGB revolution. I really don't see the point.

#

I don't need the machine to look pretty, I just want it to be fast. the pretty is on the screen, (in the form of good graphics)

sour shale
#

pretty is good

glass gorge
#

Flashy apartykappa

gentle moss
#

i used to have a PC with a window in it

#

and lights that blinked in time with my music

rough sapphire
#

98 or xp??

gentle moss
#

and there was UV reactive parts

#

no just one window, no one needs 98 windows.

sour shale
#

want this

#

imagine the window tax on 98 windows

gentle moss
#

:D

rough sapphire
#

kek

sour shale
#

the Nvidia stream yesterday was weird

rough sapphire
#

sorry went into hordish then

sour shale
#

i watched the whole thing

sand goblet
sour shale
#

i hate apple

outer berry
#

but it's a fruit

gentle moss
#

i mean for a company that prides itself on design, they screwed the pooch on that one

sour shale
#

ye

gentle moss
#

i bet the designer was too busy thinking about how the top of it is all just one single surface

sour shale
#

or the butterfly keyobards

gentle moss
#

"look at this mouse, it's like.... completely smooth on top!"

sour shale
#

s m o o t h

tired osprey
#

They probably just assumed that nobody would use an apple mouse anyways

gentle moss
#

is there any reason they couldn't have had like a little cutout in the base so it could be used while plugged in?

tired osprey
#

It's apple Bisk

#

That's eenough of a reason

rough sapphire
#

it's like the bloody cutout at the top of the screen

glass gorge
#

@fierce lagoon I have ~3 bots that are functional

fierce lagoon
#

Wow

#

Impressive

glass gorge
#

oof embeds

fierce lagoon
#

@glass gorge Seems good...

#

That's some serious stuff
SQLite for database and plenty of useful stuff

glass gorge
#

Sqlite is only because it should be easy to setup and run

#

But also have it so you can easily implement your own db

#

I use postgresql on my streamio, and deme bots

fierce lagoon
#

Yeah
Actually, I'm making a discord bot it's kinda half done adding important stuff all without PC(as I don't have it), I'm working with my phone

glass gorge
#

Sounds.. inconvenient

fierce lagoon
#

Kinda...But my dedication towards studies and python is pure..

#

Without you guys I wasn't able to develop anythingโ€‹... I owe this server a lot

glass gorge
#

I believe quite a few here do as well. Me included

fierce lagoon
#

++

#

@glass gorge You made a streaming bot, awesome

#

Must be exhausting but interesting as well

glass gorge
#

It's only fun when you like what you do

fierce lagoon
#

Actually thinking of something new and innovative ideas and making way out of complex problems holds greater happiness...

glass gorge
#

tfw u copy an image url, but its 3x the size of the original img url

granite lake
#

@glass gorge wth

#

Wym ?

glass gorge
#

Waduhek

#

It doesn't reproduce it

#

I got a big mumbojump frankenstein mix of an url

#

No idea.

granite lake
#

I'm starting to dislike fortnite

#

Inner me : Because you can't afford skins

fierce lagoon
#

Sounds like a meme

steel fox
#

@gentle moss the mouse is like that purposefully. I donโ€™t remember the reason why but it also takes like 5-10 minutes for a 24+ hour charge

gentle moss
#

yeah that's 5-10 minutes i can't use a fucking mouse

#

it's dumb

#

having taken a load of apple shit to bits i know for a fact they could've made it have a front USB port that still doesn't ruin the "elegance" of the design

tired osprey
#

Your mind is just not appley enough to understand their genius design decisions Bisk that's the problem

lost hornet
#

headphones or a fortnite skin

tired osprey
#

Forknite

#

Clearly

rain spindle
#

@lost hornet neither, buy a Minecraft server

lost hornet
#

buying a minecraft server

#

or you could like

#

run one for ten bucks a month on a vm

ionic hill
#

We need a Python community Minecraft server python finger_gun_dank

#

On which we shall build a computer and implement a Python interpreter

tired osprey
#

@ionic hill that is actually a project on our GitHub which has been paused because of our inability to isolate jython, we would have to write our own python interpreter in either java or lua for that

ionic hill
sand goblet
#

We used to have a Minecraft server but not many people played there

#

I've been thinking about starbound but it's not clear people would play that either :P

sour shale
#

Vanilla survival minecraft server

rain spindle
#

Or at least a less-system intense server

steel fox
#

ARK server

ionic hill
#

Mine ๐Ÿ‘ Craft ๐Ÿ‘

glass gorge
sand goblet
#

ARK, what a meme

#

:P

glass gorge
#

Stardew valley GWqlabsSpyEyes

sand goblet
#

I think Starbound might suit us better honestly

#

It's much more suitable for groups

glass gorge
#

True dat

sand goblet
#

Plus there are some excellent Workshop mods

glass gorge
#

It's years since I played it

#

Has it changed a lot over the years

sand goblet
#

You can have a mech now

#

Haha

glass gorge
sand goblet
#

You can also have your own space station

#

Though that takes some work

glass gorge
#

That's about what I've done

sand goblet
#

I'm not at my desk but I have way more than that

glass gorge
#

It wasn't ment to show off or anything, more like. Look I play little bit, should I expect new game

sand goblet
#

Ish

#

If you're from back in the beta, even the inventory system will be different

glass gorge
#

I have a bad tendency to drop games before end game FeelsBadMan

#

esp stuff like modded minecraft, terraria, Starbound

sand goblet
#

With your hotbar having pairs of slots for each hand instead of single slots, a matter manipulator upgrade module system, and category inventory tabs

glass gorge
#

I've played with those

#

i think

sand goblet
#

Also it comes with songs for the instruments now lol

glass gorge
#

I think I had that too? Unless we just played random tunes

#

It's ages since I touched it

#

So can't really tell

sand goblet
#

It had the feature but only like two songs bundled

glass gorge
#

hm

sand goblet
#

There's a whole crew system, which is nice

#

And mech areas

glass gorge
#

I'll give it a go, if / when I get bored of stardew

sand goblet
#

Given that mods are on the workshop

#

I was thinking we could put together a collection for us

glass gorge
#

Should be fairly easy

sand goblet
#

Yeah

glass gorge
#

Steam is lovely for modding

#

(usually)

sand goblet
#

Yup. But it does leave the people with the GoG version on their own, basically

glass gorge
#

Wonder if i should get into modding stardew, or play it out vanilla

#

Anywho, food for thoughts later. Imma hit the hay

#

๐Ÿ‘‹๐Ÿพ

sand goblet
#

o/

ionic hill
#

I wanna get into modding Stardew too

#

Ideally the SV modding ecosphere should be better now that the game is pretty much done and is unlikely to change much, the modding APIs should be more stable

#

I mean, I don't know how its been recently, last time I looked into modding SV was a couple years back probably

sand goblet
#

It's still a bit of a pain

#

Could be worse though

sour shale
#

what language to mod stardew valley

sand goblet
#

Lua

#

no wait

#

that's starbound

#

stardew is C#

sour shale
#

ah ok

wooden kindle
sand goblet
#

(finally)

tired osprey
sour shale
wild yarrow
#

^

rough sapphire
#

Has anyone done an interview through Hadoop?

#

Got my macbook pro stolen

#

bought a thinkpad x1 carbon

#

not disapointed

ivory tiger
#

@sand goblet weak playtime

#

Face my 12000 hour dreadnought

wild yarrow
#

jesus who the fuck puts 12000 hours into a game

#

that's......

#

kinda fucked

cerulean basin
#

that's esports level of play time

rough sapphire
#

Speaking of hours into games, the worst I've got is Dead by Daylight at 921 hours.

steel fox
#

My WoW main has 24,000 hours

#

Combined across all characters Iโ€™m at around 35k or so

rough sapphire
#

._.

steel fox
#

No need to spend money on games if you only play one

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

granite lake
#

Ehm

#

Sir

#

Once I find stuff I like, I'm paying

wooden kindle
#

Wow is subscription based

#

You've spent $3,000+ dollars on WoW if you played 6 hours a day 7 days a week

granite lake
#

lol

wooden kindle
#

$6,000+ if you averaged around 3-4 hours a day

cerulean basin
#

it's wow

#

lets be realistic here with the figures

#

he was playing 15 hours a day at least

wooden kindle
#

True

#

420 hours a month finger_gun_dank

#

In that case he'd have spent a measly $1,200

steel fox
#

I mean

#

I've been subscribed since I was in like 7th? grade

#

So like, 14? years

#

Spent about $2500 on subs probably. maybe a little less from buying some subs year long Cx

storm shard
#

Does anyone know a good service which provides sms numbers for use in verifying accounts?

steel fox
#

or about 7cents per hour

steel fox
#

Can you install a python module from inside itsself?

rough sapphire
#

i think you can use pip.main if im understanding correctly

tulip palm
#

only on versions below pip 10 i think

steel fox
#

Well I meant like

#

I have a script. I need some other module not installed but donโ€™t have command line access but do have permissions

tame pier
#

Yes, you can

#

I actually had the bot try to do it, but it timed out BeeSad

#

Lemme find the snippet

steel fox
#

Neato dorito

tame pier
#
from pip._internal import main
args = ['install', 'gitpython']
main(args)
#

That is with Pip 10 I think

#

Though might be 18

#

Yeah, I went down a weird tangent and spelunked the pip codebase lol

steel fox
#

Damn. No pip internal found

tame pier
#

That's pip 18 then

#

The method is probably there in 10, you'll just have to find it

#

Since it's undocumented and unsupported

steel fox
#

Itโ€™s python on an iPhone

#

So it may just not have pip

tame pier
#

What app

#

Very likely

#

QPython on Android has it's own pip IIRC

steel fox
#

pYTHON2IDE

tame pier
tame pier
#

Trying to initialize a pipfile for a discord bot...

#

Do they not test?

#

"It would be great to have pipenv tested so that these issues don't find their way to the open :)"

#

Basically, this breaks it:

[packages]
"discord.py" = {ref = "rewrite", git = "git://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py.git", extras = ["voice"]}

But this works fine:


[packages]
# , extras = ["voice"]
"discord.py" = {ref = "rewrite", git = "git://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py.git"}
#

So, no extras for now I guess

#

What's in the Python bot's Pipfile also works:

[packages]
discord = {file = "https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py/archive/rewrite.zip", egg = "discord.py[voice]"}
#

So I'll just use that to work around this

#

It's just annoying that what pipenv generated for me is broken ๐Ÿ˜ 

steel fox
#

Rip

cerulean basin
#

๐Ÿ˜ก

tame pier
#

The MIT license is truly marvelous

wild yarrow
#

it is

glass gorge
sullen thorn
#

just make up your own notation

#

like in chemistry [] means concentration, use it to mean compile instead

glass gorge
#

But how can you trust the compiler compiling the compilers compiler

sullen thorn
#

wtf

#

wait how do you compile a compiler without a compiler?

sour shale
#

I heard you like compilers, so we put a compiler in your compiler so you can compile while you compile

sullen thorn
#

but how did the first compiler get compiled?

wild yarrow
#

idk that it was

#

it stands to reason that the first pieces of a compiler were built more manually and thus you were able to create more abstract tools and so on and so forth

glass gorge
#

You inherited the compiler compiling the new compiler

#

or some stuff

#

(just barely dipping my toes in the subject, so dunno )

sullen thorn
#

oh

rough sapphire
#

If someone in this server writes a story

#

and one of the people in the story is me

#

and the person in the story does things

#

but I didn't do those things

sand goblet
#

I believe they call that fiction

rough sapphire
#

then the person in the story isn't me

wanton dragon
#

Well you alread said that one of the people in the story is me ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

rough sapphire
#

yes

#

but they can't be

#

so I can't be in a story

#

Q.Q.E.D.

#

(questionable Q.E.D.)

wanton dragon
#

I'm so bored that I'm trying to read the Morse code of yours lol

#

I have a cool idea I will make a script that reads morse code ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

celest olive
#

you could probably also learn morse code in about that time too

#

it's supposed to be pretty easy to learn

sour shale
#

nice diagram

celest olive
#

"dah" and "dit" are long and short, btw.

sour shale
#

ye i checked SOS to see

celest olive
#

i think that you're supposed to just listen and follow the tree until you memorize it

#

ohh, that would be a good program you could write

#

use an OS text-to-speech and have it take sentences that it translates to morse code.

#

that would be pretty decent.

wanton dragon
#

That would be soooo amazing

#

Python is cool

#

I know some other languages can do that but man Python is dope

sullen thorn
#

that it is ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

#

wheres the british guy that streamed cooking?

#

(forgot his name)

tired osprey
#

bisk

sullen thorn
#

ah yeah

#

@gentle moss where r u?

tired osprey
#

at work

#

at this time prolly shreddering shit

sullen thorn
#

hmm ok ill wait until tonight then

#

was hoping he would do a teatime stream tho

tired osprey
#

i doubt he'll ever do that tbh

granite lake
#

Lol

gentle moss
#

no, i'm on holiday

#

for ~2 weeks

#

and it only cost me 7 work holiday days

#

maybe a cooking stream during my time off

#

there might be a bunch of bbq pictures later

#

ยฌ_ยฌ

tired osprey
#

you never did a bbq stream

#

maybe you should do that

gentle moss
#

eh, i haven't got a practical setup for that

#

i did try once

#

i tried to use a step ladder, some chairs, a tripod and some other bits and pieces

tired osprey
#

wew

gentle moss
#

but it was too unwieldy

tired osprey
#

you'll make it some day

sullen thorn
#

so... why cant you do one now if youre having a bbq anyway?

granite lake
#

Hey @bleak lintel

#

Was just monitoring your online status

#

๐Ÿ˜‚

bleak lintel
#

what

#

ok

granite lake
#

Lol

gentle moss
#

i literally just explained why i can't do a BBQ stream

#

also, just because i'm making delicious food doesn't mean i want to stream it. streaming is effort

#

takes like half an hour plus to set everything up, gotta stay and chat to whoever is watching, blah, blah, blah

steel fox
gentle moss
#

enjoyed it more when it was on twitter

#

ยฌ_ยฌ

sour shale
#

5 circles expected soon ๐Ÿ˜„

gentle moss
#

hahaha

steel fox
#

Lul

granite lake
#

Lol

robust sierra
#

lamo

granite lake
#

lamo ?

#

Lol

robust sierra
#

lamo

granite lake
#

I just screamed

#

๐Ÿ˜‚

sour shale
#

haha

robust sierra
granite lake
#

I miss someone

#

I miss sled too

robust sierra
#

sled?

granite lake
#

@heady remnant Gone but not forgotten

robust sierra
#

oh yeh

granite lake
#

Guy was funny as heck

robust sierra
#

wher is he

worn kite
#

sled away

granite lake
#

He never sent a message back after he was muted

worn kite
#

fastly

robust sierra
#

he was mooted?

granite lake
#

Brek mi hart

#

Yus

robust sierra
#

how

#

hes a good boy

granite lake
#

๐Ÿ’”

robust sierra
#

he speks

sour shale
#

sled fast is typing

#

๐Ÿ˜ฎ

heady remnant
#

Could you not ping me when I'm curling into the sink thanks

granite lake
#

Hey

#

Wait

#

You're alive

#

Woah

sour shale
#

curling into the sink

granite lake
#

It's a Christmas gift

#

Yes

#

He's alive

#

Sled I miss you

sour shale
#

congrats on alive

granite lake
#

He's alive

#

Yes

#

@heady remnant ๐Ÿ˜

zinc sail
#
$ curl sink
curl: (6) Could not resolve host: sink
granite lake
#

Lmao

#

But ya know what

#

That message looks bot like

#

I wonder if he's automating his account

#

GWmythicalFeelsSadMan GWfroggySadCat ๐Ÿ˜ญ

heady remnant
#

No I'm just one handed typing on Gboard

robust sierra
#

what happened to lex?

granite lake
#

Oh

#

Lol

#

Sled I miss you

heady remnant
#

Also who are you

granite lake
#

Pls say something

#

It's jasonjay

#

Remember me ?

robust sierra
#

yes who are you jason?

heady remnant
#

I don't

granite lake
#

We used to make jokes

#

Lol

#

How can I remind yoi

#

Hold on

heady remnant
#

Just don't ping me

granite lake
#

Okay

#

Remember you once told me to check my YouTube notifications because they were plenty?

#

Might remember

heady remnant
#

No

#

I think you're mildly insane

granite lake
#

Hm

#

Wait

#

Sled

#

Remember this meme ?

#

I was around when you, someone and me and some other dudes spoke about it

#

And you said "use lube next time"

robust sierra
#

give up

granite lake
#

No

#

He must remember

#

๐Ÿ˜‚

robust sierra
#

he willn't

granite lake
#

Will yes

robust sierra
#

will'sn't

granite lake
#

Rip

#

Sled doesn't care

heady remnant
#

Yeah I don't remember

#

Are you sure you have the right person?

robust sierra
#

yes

#

he is sure

granite lake
#

Yes

#

I am sure

#

Sled

#

Remember this ?

#

I'm that jason

#

๐Ÿ˜

heady remnant
#

You're just confusing me a lot more

granite lake
#

Hmm

#

But do you remember me ?

#

I'm just saying I want you back in the chat cause you were funny as heck

heady remnant
#

I honestly don't

#

I remember Someone

#

But that's about it

granite lake
#

Oh well

sour shale
#

Someone left

heady remnant
#

Any reason why or just grew out

granite lake
#

It's okay

#

But hey

sour shale
#

Someone is in Programming and The Coding Den

robust sierra
#

@heady remnant he got kicked, and joined back and left agen

granite lake
#

You were very funny and it was nice knowing you

#

Sled

heady remnant
#

Got you

granite lake
#

๐Ÿ‘Œ

heady remnant
#

It may have been nice knowing you but I don't know you so I can't tell

granite lake
gentle moss
#

aw yis

sour shale
#

um

#

thats a LOT of pepper

#

๐Ÿ‘

gentle moss
#

it's 3 red peppers

#

2 normal, 1 small

sour shale
#

i guess it looks like a lot cos they chopped big

gentle moss
#

yeah, like strips

#

it's 1 large white onion, 2 large peppers essentially

sour shale
#

ook

gentle moss
#

with 4 cloves of garlic

#

and olive oil

#

letting that sweat down

sour shale
#

garlic

gentle moss
#

yes

sour shale
#

best

#

i rly like capers

gentle moss
#

i dislike capers

sour shale
#

i eat them by the spoonful

#

table spoon

gentle moss
#

i do that with chilli peppers

#

now we got some sparry gus

#

and now some toh mah tohs with white wine

#

regular viewers will know what i'm cooking

#

:P

#

leave to simmer for like idk

#

20-30 minutes on a medium low heat

sand goblet
#

needs more peppers

gentle moss
#

why?

sand goblet
#

I dunno

#

never enough peppers

gentle moss
#

i mean 3 peppers + 300g of tomato

#

and 1 onion

#

that's a nice balance

lost hornet
#

hi

gentle moss
#

no

lost hornet
#

ok

#

bye

gentle moss
#

o/

lost hornet
#

hi

gentle moss
#

no i was saying bye

lost hornet
#

hi

gentle moss
#

it's like aloha

#

o/