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XML, which everyone hates but everyone can't seem to live without
JPEG FS
oh dear.
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PIET
piet?
yes we've all seen it before :D
Gif that does t move. Angry face.
Me critical analysis of bungee jumping and dunking ya biscuit into ya tea. Probably the most British thing ever. Cheers, Ozzy Man http://www.patreon.com/ozzy...
Joseph what do you think of the potential for this sport?
literally most british people i know drink coffee not tea
it was all over when starbucks invaded
Most brits I know drink both
maybe ye
they might have tea at home that i don't see ๐ค
I think Chai tea or other chinese teas are "in" now
both are great
mulled wine is good for that, with or without alcohol.
Assuming they are big enough and close enough to each other that is
Not partnered with Hacking-Coding anymore?
@tired osprey infinity isn't a real number
infinity is a real number
real numbers are the rational and the irrational numbers
infinity is irrational
=> infinity is a real number
and now get out pastebin
infinity rather than a real number is a concept for a number larger than any natural number
is 1+i irrational?
^
infinity is infinite
yes
not irrational
Complex number, real number
@rough sapphire @tired osprey evidence
Nix?
which is what I literally said
if ininfinty wouldnt be a real number all of the school math i learned in the last year wouldnt make sense
Nonono
yes yes yes

In mathematics, the affinely extended real number system is obtained from the real number system โ by adding two elements: +โฏโ and โโฏโ (read as positive infinity and negative infinity respectively). These new elements are not real numbers. It is useful in describi...
"In mathematics, the affinely extended real number system is obtained from the real number system โ by adding two elements: +โฏโ and โโฏโ (read as positive infinity and negative infinity respectively). These new elements are not real numbers."
infinity is not a real number n00bs
*pastebin
infinity is a real number
no
evidence
@sour shale context
infinity is in the extended real numbers
^
reeeeee
for what numbers is 1/x defined
@tired osprey evidence
Infinity (symbol: โ) is a concept describing something without any bound or larger than any natural number. ... In mathematics, "infinity" is often treated as a number (i.e., it counts or measures things: "an infinite number of terms") but it is not the same sort of number as either a natural or a real number.```
In mathematics, the affinely extended real number system is obtained from the real number system โ by adding two elements: +โฏโ and โโฏโ (read as positive infinity and negative infinity respectively). These new elements are not real numbers. It is useful in describi...
any number that isn't 0
HERE
EVIDENCE
UPLOADING
"it is not the same sort of number as either a natural or a real number"
@tired osprey that litrally says
for whihc numbers is 1/x defined
It's not a real number
you didnt answer my question
is 0*x = 0
I backed you cause I believed you
You usually are right
Not this time
Pastebin wins!
Here is your prize:
@tired osprey is it always true that 0*x=0
no
i can define * as whatever operator i want
Of that's not power
That was a confusing ping
i got @celest olive who studied maths as source
beat that pastebin
given that * is the normal multiplication operator, is it always true that 0*x=0
Ha, no, it's okay
is 1/x defined for any real number x
NO
@rough sapphire I love you
DIDNT YOU LISTEN
You did it
what the heck is going on in here
I meant from earlier
given that / is the normal division operator, is 1/x defined for any number x
yes
@sand goblet just nix actually getting somthing wrong
0*(1/0)=0
1=0
the normal multiplication and division operators
oh, is this the old 0 == 1 fallacy?
Don't think so
looks like it
nix said that 1 divided by x is defined for any real number x
also sharp
wait
i didnt loose
he probably just pulled it from wikipedia
@tired osprey is 0 a real number
like everyone else does
i won he had to correct his statement and then i agreed
@rough sapphire yes now what
so 1/0 is defined
0/10 excuse
shshsh
(what's 0?)
whats anything
what is gdude
i can agree that 1/x is defined for / being ordinary division and x โ โ \ {0}
gareth that is very unsatisfactory.
who agrees with me
OH I MEMBER
nix i agree with you
1/x is defined for / being ordinary division and x โ โ \ {0}
but only if you exclude 0
yes
fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I @sand goblet
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@rough sapphire 0/i*0 is -10000000
I MEMBER DAT
@rain spindle no, it's 0
what is i*0
WHAT IS รญ
@rain spindle define
also whats the precedence in that term
(0/i)*0
0/i = 0
^
come here and justify yourself
unless / or * mean something different
Hey all - anyone in here good w/ npm/node?
I've got a question about customizing some sass variables
or rather i wish i couldnt write node code
chris what are you having issues with
if 0 * 0 = -10000000 and division and operator precedence are normal then technically sharp is right
actually
but
lets move to ot2
ok
24 off topics when
the operation that always yields -10000000
or multiplies (normally) and then subtracts (normally) 10000000
or does basically anything that just happens to become -10000000 for 0 and 0
so if the * in sharps 0*0 is (expressed with normal operations)
(left*right)-10000000 he is correct
@rain spindle you might be right
@rough sapphire whats next on the list
@tired osprey IndexError
@tired osprey NameError
sad
i'd expect a TypeError there
Nix I'm mucking around
@tulip palm the name error was because random_problem isn't defined
oh i see, yeah okay
@rough sapphire do you want to proof
(m^b) mod a = (m^c) mod a
for all of those numbers being element of the natural numbers
should have thought about that in terms of the order in which the bytecode is evaluated
where the NameError would happen before TypeError due to python using a call stack
wait no thats the wrong expression
>>> (2**1) % 3
2
>>> (2**2) % 3
1```
i don't want to proof it because it's clearly false
proof that
(m^(b*n+1)) mod a = (m^(c*n+1)) mod a
that is true
if not ssl has a problem
>>> (2**(0*1+1)) % 3
2
>>> (2**(1*1+1)) % 3
1```
>>> (2**(2*1+1)) % 3
2
>>> (2**(3*1+1)) % 3
1```
0 is not element of the natural numbers
what
why
but then my rsa proof doesnt work
oh dear
(12^(4*5+1))%3 == (12^(5*5+1))%3
this is ungood
why isnt it true
that works because 12 % 3 = 0
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
maybe its just true for the constant exponent being phi n
gimme a second
the rsa paper says that
(m^(k*phi(n)+1)) mod n = (m^(d*phi(n)+1)) mod n
maybe its the phi n
what's phi(n)
the euler phi function
if n is the product of two primes p and q phi(n) = (p-1) * (q-1)
>>> n = 3*5
>>> phi_n = 2*4
>>> (12**(4*phi_n)) % n == (12**(10*phi_n)) % n
True
there we go
so now pastebin
tell me why that works
it should have something to do with group theory
pastebin
explain
because of something to do with group theory?
yes but what
something
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to do with group theory
wtfff
whats wrong cake
IDK this maths
its another field of maths
Holy shit the rental car has wifi
car wifi nice
I had a hotspot in my last rental, it was pretty sweet
it's unlimited data so I can stream anime all day

I can't dowload fortnite it is shit on mobile
Download the internet 
:(
Omega lyl
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is it bad that i put all my programs on my boot SSD?
(on arch btw)
:^)
i wish i could move them to my HDD but i actually don't really know how to.
@tired osprey look at Fermats little theorem
ive looked at it before
Thatโs why.
great
And then some of the other stuff you can prove by construction if you really need to
but clay i already used fermats little theorem to get the equation
(m^(k*phi(n)+1) mod n = (m^(d*phi(n)+1) mod n
im just not sure why the values of k and d dont really matter
I think itโs because theyโre multiples of a number right?
huh
Donโt you get k and d from using lcm at some point?
no
the k is chosen as
unknown integer
and the d is not the d from the encryption but just a value that says that there is a multiple of phi(n) in the exponent which is maybe equal to k but maybe not
those integers are completely unknown
are you like 3 :^)
you know it
what terminal emulator do you guys use in Arch
I just use Konsole right now and it's kinda meh
@ me cause I am gonna sleep
tilix is good yes, but i have i3 so it's not really necessary for me
how does i3 work when you have four monitors?
ooh i3 is weird on multiple monitors
so why do you use it
weird == bad, apparently :D
i really like i3 just cause it looks decent and i have no problems with using it on multiple monitors.
always struck me as something that miiight be nice on a single huge monitor
i often have [ sublime | terminal ] on my main screen and [ discord ] on my secondary screen
what about the other two monitors?
well i don't have two more monitors, but i'm sure if i had 4 monitors, i'd have a use for them.
huh? where's your other two monitors?
did you let someone borrow them or something?
is there like a friend visiting and he's using two of them for his laptop?
that's probably it
that's very nice of you.
haha, i've literally never said i have 4 monitors :D
when someone tells you that they're a programmer, you make certain assumptions about them
they have a keyboard
an internet connection
probably some sort of operating system installed
four monitors
etc.
anything else would be ridiculous.
4 monitors... nice.
I also use tilix, it's great
It's kind of like having tmux but it's not a pain to use
I got laughed at at one job when I had 4 monitors
2 for my desktop, and then laptop with external screen.
yeah well some people just can't be helped
I only use 2 atm, since my laptop has been borrowed
I found additional monitors suffer from some degree of diminishing returns
like if you have one monitor and upgrade to 2, then that's like a 50% productivity increase
but the third one is only 25%
and the fourth one is at 12.5%, which is still nice, but let's face it. you don't need five.
I want a big square one with 3 wide-screen ones with matching width positioned around it as a border
I only have 2 as well
, no room for more, maybe a laptop
corner desks are nice
personally though I kinda wanna start using more vertical space for monitors. maybe have one or two above my current ones.
but I'd need a second gpu
anyway the GTX 980 only supports 4 displays afaik
that doesn't seem like many for that card
Can't you just put the fith one with the integrated gpu?
at work i use 2 outputs from the discrete and 2 from the iGPU, works okay
my work computer is so small that I can't fit a gpu in it so I'm stuck with the onboard graphics :(
O_O
i still haven't re-installed it after v2.0 pissed me off so much
copy paste between the machines works like 20% of the time
and if you hit the windows key the connection resets
yay
also if you try to type a backtick
or an @
i had problems with screen skipping and keyboard layouts between Linux / Windows
it's worthless
i'd drag the mouse onto my linux laptop and it'd go "oh okay we're going back to the furthest monitor away from where you want to be now."
on my home machine I don't have onboard gpu
and i've got a 400dpi mouse so that's like a 2 mile hike
the mobo is too high end. they don't usually come with it.
kind of worthless on a real rig
it's potentially bad for stability if you overclock too
nobody builds a rig with an expensive mobo and no GPU
that was directed at @rough sapphire btw
you could get one of those USB display adapters
wait 400dpi mouse wtf?
yeah
naw but my mobo supports SLI so I'd just get a second 980 if I wanted more monitors
would probably need a new tower to cool it though, this one is barely hanging in there.
oh god
the most successful mouse of 2005
I've had a couple of those
how can you live without thumb buttons, dude
holy shit I would quit my job
i stole it from a discard pile because i wanted a mouse with a decent sensor in so i could play quake at work
eh, none of the mice we have have thumb buttons :(
i should complain
does make browsing a pain, having to use the keyboard to track forward / back
holy shit
kinda ugly but ergonomy is nice.
got enough lights on that?
the scroll wheel light should change colour the faster you scroll
also I can change the cpi on the fly.
Looks fly
not really my kind of thing, but has a good scroll wheel, good ergo, and 5 buttons. that's all I need.
i do miss my thumb buttons at work
especially since backspace doesn't take you back anymore
alt+left, smh
at work I got the M500
which honestly is probably a better mouse
and it has that free scroll mousewheel which is SO NICE
oooooh
(it's also cheap)
scroll forever
yeah! spin the wheel!
you can almost scroll through an entire Wait But Why article in a single heave
:D
(that joke is amazing if you've ever read WBW)
that seems like a missed opportunity with free scrolls
(like this article is over 38000 words: https://waitbutwhy.com/2017/04/neuralink.html)
oh christ
great read, though
everything he writes is a great read.
it'll take 2 weeks to get through it but his Elon Musk series (leading up to this post) is unbelievably exciting, and his AI articles were so good I bought like six books for further reading.
does seem like the sort of thing that's more comfortable to digest on paper
lemon, which version of synergy were you using, and what connection type between the machines?
and to my mind, the MX518 is the best low end gaming mouse you can get.
tho they are rather expensive now
I hate the MX518s
partly because they look like a crashed car
and I don't know, the latest version
Logitech G502
i disliked the tilting mouse wheel click thing
on the MX518
was too easy to set off while scrolling
MX518 is just suuuuper ugly
one of the ugliest mice ever made imo
yeah
I mean
what were they thinking
it just looks like someone put little finger dents all over it :(
why does it look bashed up
that's just how it comes, right out of the box.

like a pair of pre-torn jeans
pre-torn jeans are ook
is that Full House? ๐
iunno, you said it
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My mate had one, and I kept thinking it was a gel pad, until I had one myself.
tbh, I don't care what it looks like, cos I don't spend time looking at it.
It is comfortable and has all the functions I need.
i look at my mouse
lol
it's the same with this RGB revolution. I really don't see the point.
I don't need the machine to look pretty, I just want it to be fast. the pretty is on the screen, (in the form of good graphics)
pretty is good
Flashy 
i used to have a PC with a window in it
and lights that blinked in time with my music
98 or xp??
:D
kek
the Nvidia stream yesterday was weird
sorry went into hordish then
i watched the whole thing
i hate apple
but it's a fruit
i mean for a company that prides itself on design, they screwed the pooch on that one
ye
i bet the designer was too busy thinking about how the top of it is all just one single surface
or the butterfly keyobards
"look at this mouse, it's like.... completely smooth on top!"
s m o o t h
They probably just assumed that nobody would use an apple mouse anyways
is there any reason they couldn't have had like a little cutout in the base so it could be used while plugged in?
it's like the bloody cutout at the top of the screen
@fierce lagoon I have ~3 bots that are functional
https://github.com/tagptroll1/boiletplate - Boilerplate like bot I'm working on
https://github.com/tagptroll1/Streamio - Bot for streamers
https://github.com/tagptroll1/demetori2 - x-guild in x-game i played, handles attendance, gear etc
embeds
@glass gorge Seems good...
That's some serious stuff
SQLite for database and plenty of useful stuff
Sqlite is only because it should be easy to setup and run
But also have it so you can easily implement your own db
I use postgresql on my streamio, and deme bots
Yeah
Actually, I'm making a discord bot it's kinda half done adding important stuff all without PC(as I don't have it), I'm working with my phone
Sounds.. inconvenient
Kinda...But my dedication towards studies and python is pure..
Without you guys I wasn't able to develop anythingโ... I owe this server a lot
I believe quite a few here do as well. Me included
++
@glass gorge You made a streaming bot, awesome
Must be exhausting but interesting as well
It's only fun when you like what you do
Actually thinking of something new and innovative ideas and making way out of complex problems holds greater happiness...
Waduhek
It doesn't reproduce it
I got a big mumbojump frankenstein mix of an url
No idea.
Sounds like a meme
@gentle moss the mouse is like that purposefully. I donโt remember the reason why but it also takes like 5-10 minutes for a 24+ hour charge
yeah that's 5-10 minutes i can't use a fucking mouse
it's dumb
having taken a load of apple shit to bits i know for a fact they could've made it have a front USB port that still doesn't ruin the "elegance" of the design
Your mind is just not appley enough to understand their genius design decisions Bisk that's the problem
@lost hornet neither, buy a Minecraft server
We need a Python community Minecraft server

On which we shall build a computer and implement a Python interpreter
@ionic hill that is actually a project on our GitHub which has been paused because of our inability to isolate jython, we would have to write our own python interpreter in either java or lua for that

We used to have a Minecraft server but not many people played there
I've been thinking about starbound but it's not clear people would play that either :P
Vanilla survival minecraft server
Or at least a less-system intense server
ARK server
Mine ๐ Craft ๐


Stardew valley 
True dat
Plus there are some excellent Workshop mods

I'm not at my desk but I have way more than that
It wasn't ment to show off or anything, more like. Look I play little bit, should I expect new game
I have a bad tendency to drop games before end game 
esp stuff like modded minecraft, terraria, Starbound
With your hotbar having pairs of slots for each hand instead of single slots, a matter manipulator upgrade module system, and category inventory tabs
Also it comes with songs for the instruments now lol
I think I had that too? Unless we just played random tunes
It's ages since I touched it
So can't really tell
It had the feature but only like two songs bundled
hm
I'll give it a go, if / when I get bored of stardew
Given that mods are on the workshop
I was thinking we could put together a collection for us
Should be fairly easy
Yeah
Yup. But it does leave the people with the GoG version on their own, basically

Wonder if i should get into modding stardew, or play it out vanilla
Anywho, food for thoughts later. Imma hit the hay
๐๐พ
o/
I wanna get into modding Stardew too
Ideally the SV modding ecosphere should be better now that the game is pretty much done and is unlikely to change much, the modding APIs should be more stable
I mean, I don't know how its been recently, last time I looked into modding SV was a couple years back probably
what language to mod stardew valley
ah ok
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so @gentle moss
every apple user
^
Has anyone done an interview through Hadoop?
Got my macbook pro stolen
bought a thinkpad x1 carbon
not disapointed
that's esports level of play time
Speaking of hours into games, the worst I've got is Dead by Daylight at 921 hours.
._.
Wow is subscription based
You've spent $3,000+ dollars on WoW if you played 6 hours a day 7 days a week
lol
$6,000+ if you averaged around 3-4 hours a day
it's wow
lets be realistic here with the figures
he was playing 15 hours a day at least
I mean
I've been subscribed since I was in like 7th? grade
So like, 14? years
Spent about $2500 on subs probably. maybe a little less from buying some subs year long Cx
Does anyone know a good service which provides sms numbers for use in verifying accounts?
or about 7cents per hour
Can you install a python module from inside itsself?
i think you can use pip.main if im understanding correctly
only on versions below pip 10 i think
Well I meant like
I have a script. I need some other module not installed but donโt have command line access but do have permissions
Yes, you can
I actually had the bot try to do it, but it timed out 
Lemme find the snippet
Neato dorito
from pip._internal import main
args = ['install', 'gitpython']
main(args)
That is with Pip 10 I think
Though might be 18
Yeah, I went down a weird tangent and spelunked the pip codebase lol
Damn. No pip internal found
That's pip 18 then
The method is probably there in 10, you'll just have to find it
Since it's undocumented and unsupported
pYTHON2IDE
Why not use Python 3: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/python3ide/id1357215444
Just tried to use pipenv, bug in the latest version: https://github.com/pypa/pipenv/issues/2504
Trying to initialize a pipfile for a discord bot...
Do they not test?
"It would be great to have pipenv tested so that these issues don't find their way to the open :)"
Basically, this breaks it:
[packages]
"discord.py" = {ref = "rewrite", git = "git://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py.git", extras = ["voice"]}
But this works fine:
[packages]
# , extras = ["voice"]
"discord.py" = {ref = "rewrite", git = "git://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py.git"}
So, no extras for now I guess
What's in the Python bot's Pipfile also works:
[packages]
discord = {file = "https://github.com/Rapptz/discord.py/archive/rewrite.zip", egg = "discord.py[voice]"}
So I'll just use that to work around this
It's just annoying that what pipenv generated for me is broken ๐
Rip
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The MIT license is truly marvelous
it is
I wonder how many times this course will have me write compiler
just make up your own notation
like in chemistry [] means concentration, use it to mean compile instead
But how can you trust the compiler compiling the compilers compiler
I heard you like compilers, so we put a compiler in your compiler so you can compile while you compile
but how did the first compiler get compiled?
idk that it was
it stands to reason that the first pieces of a compiler were built more manually and thus you were able to create more abstract tools and so on and so forth
You inherited the compiler compiling the new compiler
or some stuff
(just barely dipping my toes in the subject, so dunno )
oh
If someone in this server writes a story
and one of the people in the story is me
and the person in the story does things
but I didn't do those things
I believe they call that fiction
then the person in the story isn't me
Well you alread said that one of the people in the story is me ๐
yes
but they can't be
so I can't be in a story
Q.Q.E.D.
(questionable Q.E.D.)
I'm so bored that I'm trying to read the Morse code of yours lol
I have a cool idea I will make a script that reads morse code ๐
you could probably also learn morse code in about that time too
it's supposed to be pretty easy to learn
nice diagram
"dah" and "dit" are long and short, btw.
ye i checked SOS to see
i think that you're supposed to just listen and follow the tree until you memorize it
ohh, that would be a good program you could write
use an OS text-to-speech and have it take sentences that it translates to morse code.
that would be pretty decent.
That would be soooo amazing
Python is cool
I know some other languages can do that but man Python is dope
bisk
i doubt he'll ever do that tbh
Lol
no, i'm on holiday
for ~2 weeks
and it only cost me 7 work holiday days
maybe a cooking stream during my time off
there might be a bunch of bbq pictures later
ยฌ_ยฌ
eh, i haven't got a practical setup for that
i did try once
i tried to use a step ladder, some chairs, a tripod and some other bits and pieces
wew
but it was too unwieldy
you'll make it some day
so... why cant you do one now if youre having a bbq anyway?
Lol
i literally just explained why i can't do a BBQ stream
also, just because i'm making delicious food doesn't mean i want to stream it. streaming is effort
takes like half an hour plus to set everything up, gotta stay and chat to whoever is watching, blah, blah, blah
hahaha
Lul
Lol
lamo
lamo
haha
sled?
oh yeh
Guy was funny as heck
wher is he
sled away
He never sent a message back after he was muted
fastly
he was mooted?
๐
he speks
Could you not ping me when I'm curling into the sink thanks
curling into the sink
congrats on alive
$ curl sink
curl: (6) Could not resolve host: sink
Lmao
But ya know what
That message looks bot like
I wonder if he's automating his account

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No I'm just one handed typing on Gboard
what happened to lex?
Also who are you
yes who are you jason?
I don't
Just don't ping me
Okay
Remember you once told me to check my YouTube notifications because they were plenty?
Might remember

Hm
Wait
Sled
Remember this meme ?
I was around when you, someone and me and some other dudes spoke about it
And you said "use lube next time"
give up
he willn't
Will yes
will'sn't
You're just confusing me a lot more
Hmm
But do you remember me ?
I'm just saying I want you back in the chat cause you were funny as heck
Oh well
Someone left
Any reason why or just grew out
Someone is in Programming and The Coding Den
@heady remnant he got kicked, and joined back and left agen
Got you
๐
It may have been nice knowing you but I don't know you so I can't tell

i guess it looks like a lot cos they chopped big
ook
garlic
yes
i dislike capers
i do that with chilli peppers
now we got some sparry gus
and now some toh mah tohs with white wine
regular viewers will know what i'm cooking
:P
leave to simmer for like idk
20-30 minutes on a medium low heat
needs more peppers
why?
no
o/
no i was saying bye





